Restraining Techniques for Police, Security Doorman and Bouncers

[@chloelyons8372]

This could possibly work...... at an Aikido Sanctuary

[@SCW87]

😂😂😂

[@SINdaBlock411]

funny how in the past 2 years at least 4 cases of either death or severe battery of bjj black belts or mma fighters/instructors were reported and no aikido whatsoever ... care to explain ...

[@straitpepperdiet]

that's one way to teach: put your student in so much pain that he never forgets the lesson.

[@AngloSaxon1]

I really like this, very effective. I was a doorman for thirty years and I used many restraining techniques. But I never let anyone touch me ever and when the SIA rules for physical intervention came in it practically destroyed a doormans ability to do their job.

[@karl53133]

@ Agree I worked the doors for 15yrs mostly clubs in Birmingham, done my SIA last year thinking of going back and walked it and my cctv same but I'll never go back now you can't even put strain on joints now so all this shown can't be used in the UK, plus a doorman bud told me now if you have a argument say with a snotty pissed up student or office type and they take your number witch you have to provide on request and contact the SIA you will be unable to work for up to 3 months even if you've done nothing wrong while they " investigate " trouble is most the kids etc know this so your in the shit nowadays, and even if there's no case found to answer to you've still lost your earnings yet nothing happens to the person that put in a formal complaint, so no thankyou it's a mugs game now, it was a good job and it could be done in a firm but fair way as I said I did it for 15+ yrs and never had to assault anyone to do the job but now all the rules are against you and the money's the same as I was earning back in the 90s so now it's a very bad choice, and close protection is only any good if you are ex services or you won't get the right / contracts / jobs you don't have to believe me but I'm 55 and I know people that have close protection licences so think very hard before spending 2k+ for such I'm just being honest with you.. All the best

[@isaacunsworth2732]

@@karl53133 you actually don’t legally have to provide your name or sia number unless requested to do so by a licensing officer, SIA inspector or a police constable. I’m not sure if it’s changed from when you re-did yours but I did my door supervisor course in January this year and it states that wearing your badge on display isn’t for identification, it’s just to show people who you are and that you’re trained and licensed to be doing it. If somebody asks you for you’re details you can legally cover it up and not tell them anything.

[@yadadsellsavon1703]

So you knelt on people’s throats

[@talisdorman.9796]

@@yadadsellsavon1703 Awesome.

[@bikersoncall]

@@yadadsellsavon1703 ''I can't breath'' ?

[@mikeyduke10]

the first technique is good but i wouldnt want to be making anybody go out on their hands and knees crawling out of the club... not because it wouldnt be hilarious but because if you embarrass somebody that much i would put money on the fact that no matter who they are, especially if theyve had too much to drink, they wont think too kindly of it and will definitely come back for some retribution

[@gladius2489]

As a security officer you cant use any of that. Kneel on his throat? Are you kidding me?

[@SpicyTurk]

say that again when you get attacked and your life is at risk😂

[@gladius2489]

@@SpicyTurkhappened to me plenty of times and I never had to kneel on the guy’s throat.

[@wetsock7790]

God this aged badly

[@SINdaBlock411]

@@gladius2489 maybe you never worked a rough enough neighborhood

[@gladius2489]

@@SINdaBlock411 🤣

[@mxblackout]

Very interesting to see the variances of opinion on what you can and cannot do as a uk doorman. Im doing an SIA course right now and from what i've been taught and the long time doormen i have met, i think it very much depends on where you work. Example, a 26 stone monster in a rough area like Brixton can get away with using more force as it depends on the perceived danger to yourself and those around you. You may use what is reasonable and necessary to avert danger, so I think these techniques which allow you to quickly take down an aggressor without injury are good and applicable in cases where someone just wants to fight you.

[@GEORGEISDEAD2047]

As a doorman In 2018 you can’t use none of this.

[@jessiedelay7]

Same im a doorman lead never had any one touch me but we are given all this training but arnt allow to use it

[@yyyboy]

lol... I'm reading this in 2020... Especially the knee on the throat...

[@ArcticGator]

@@yyyboy Saame, came here just to see the comments lol

[@bharp7627]

@@yyyboy I'm reading this in 2020 as a CO and that's almost how I feel sometimes haha. Times are tough.

[@dazem5418]

Is it because it doesn't work or because they can sue?

[@tombrady3086]

This video hasn’t aged well.

[@juanoo9655]

Funny how in the moment you forget everything

[@mattybt400]

True. The amount of practice required is often underestimated.

[@thomasthorne4010]

juano o That's why you practice over and over until it becomes second nature.

[@Momsspaghetti777]

That's why you need to spar all the time so you keep your peace of mind in a fight and grapple all the time to have good grappling skill to understand the dynamics of grappling to perform these. Otherwise, you just fail.

[@hunterstatham2147]

Never have had that happen

[@Bob-pk9jr]

Aimee Frost sound rude

[@sakaikazumasa]

all those people whining about how stupid or dangerous his techinques are, have never actually worked at a door and neither have been in a real confrontation. of course it has dangerous tendencies to put your knee on someone's neck but it depends on the pressure and control. so, all of you oh-so-skilled complainers, tell me what would you do if someone constantly pushed you? react with your "reasonable" or "equal" force, which would actually mean to push back? how would that help? it would only provoke the agressor and he would eventually punch you in the face. if you only knew a little of your shit, you would know that the number one priority is to NOT get hit. and also, if he pushes you, you also would not punch him straight in the face, that would be equally stupid. So, the only solution is to use restraining techniques to disarm him and protect yourself.

[@OldNavajoTricks]

The first person you restrain in a situation should be yourself.

[@Aaron-ze1io]

Sometimes there's no other option

[@OldNavajoTricks]

@@Aaron-ze1io wasn't it Sun Tzu or Miyamoto Musashi who said "When you lose your temper, you lose the battle?" If you can't control yourself you have no hope of controlling the incident :-)

[@OldNavajoTricks]

He actually has a more direct quote but I remember the one similar to the one I first mentioned 👍 "If you wish to control others you must first control yourself" Miyamoto Musashi, A Book of Five Rings: The Classic Guide to Strategy

[@Aaron-ze1io]

@@OldNavajoTricks Oh I thought you meant that slyly shouldn't even fight or make a move, just read it wrong, I agree keep your cool in a fight the best you can and you'll control what happens so much easier

[@OldNavajoTricks]

@@Aaron-ze1io No worries Pal :-) Stay safe and here's to seeing the buggers coming before they see us :-D

[@themetalicarus0284]

The wrist twist techniques are basically Aikido moves, you've got a sankyo and kotegaeshi mixed up with a bit of uni-dori (finger locks). Nice and effective!

[@MP-db9sw]

Yep, thats what aikido is known for; effectiveness!

[@isabellam1936]

@@MP-db9sw You’re joking right?

[@Arkanthrall]

He's controlling him like he's his bitch. "Now do my homework!"

[@lsporter88]

Very simple and effective. Great dexterity.

[@deal2live]

may want to reconsider the knee on neck? The victim may have a heart condition or be on drugs!

[@warchild5607]

Good Techniques but definitely not to be applied in the nightclub industry. These tactics are to be used in combat, not escorting a subject out of a hospitality establishment. Liability boss!!

[@warchild5607]

Rocky Agreed, I seriously question your alleged profession with the comment that you made. "Screw the customer's entitlement...." yeah right, you are not law enforcement!! I've worked bar security and nightclub security for 15 years. Indeed, more training is needed, but not at the expense of seriously hurting or possibly critically injuring someone. At @1:26 the instructor trains the doormen to drop a knee (with his body weight) down onto the trachea of a patron. C'mon!!! This is unrealistic!! This is Krav Maga self-defense, NOT applicable in hospitality security. Go to SAMIR SEIF on KZbin if you want to see a more realistic and less dangerous method of restraining, detaining and escorting an uncompliant patron.

[@lroche3262]

Very precise , but How do i know I won’t break his finger?

[@totoroutes5389]

Will you make a video demonstrating emptyhand restraining techniques against an angry full-size Kodiak bear?

[@rw9207]

I know this is 2014 video. But, is this really teach to kneel on the neck??... doesn't age well.

[@WilliamAshleyOnline]

I was surprised to see the knee to the neck it looks really dangerous to do as a restraint.

[@crazysob83]

Its classed as excessive force in the uk

[@godnnat]

William Ashley yes .. I like it, I like it a lot!!

[@richardlyons7639]

I place my shin on the head or jaw. Pretty painful but a lot safer than leaning on the Trachea which is made of cartilage and muscle. I’ve been a doorman for 20+ years and never hurt anyone seriously. How many pro fighters do you see catching fists / fingers in mid air, doesn’t work outside the Matrix! A few KO’s when all else fails, but only maybe 10 in 20 years which I think is good. Best technique for a restraint is Guilotine or Rear Naked. Actually never KO’d anyone since learning chokes.

[@BrileyNeyenhuis]

I was gonna say, after may 25 2020 this video aged like sour milk diarrhea

[@mmusclepark]

Great way to defend myself and deescalate the situation.

[@ferna2294]

Now the guy in black shorts is suffering tendinitis.

[@rogerkreil3314]

Aren't you worried about crushing his windpipe with your body weight? You might get in trouble for excessive force if you aren't careful.

[@XenosFiles]

If a drunk guy pushes you, just back off and de-escalate. Don't break his fingers and crush his windpipe. It's all on cctv, you'll go to jail.

[@mma-um9zn]

Lol very true yeah. Push him away

[@re8184]

Great training 🫡

[@AgentJot23]

What if the guy will be on drugs and is not feeling any pain?

[@Tobby4063]

Choke him.

[@shanedraper240692]

1:23 heigh chance of getting your leg bitten doing that, it happened ti me last weekend

[@paulhogan1938]

Would only work on someone that can't fight..

[@bryanfong1023]

Which is 99% of the population

[@edgarcespedes1824]

If I was to do admisnisration of justice and I wanted to do private security will they teach me how to defend my self? Like how to do locks and stuff

[@goratron1]

I am telling you now, from my own experience, even if you manage to remember the movement 100% in the moment it still won't be anywhere near as effective as in this video. Best advice from me is to learn your own techniques while working. You will get plenty of practice.

[@Josurr_Madhawk]

I would also advise practicing a wider variety of techniques. As you should be ready for any potential situation and you should have a planned and practiced response for what you can see coming

[@billyb4790]

Touch my nose again.....no he can’t 🤣🤣🤣

[@i_GiveFRUITS]

At 1:15 why is there such a gap between you and the attacker? You're supposed to keep this movements Tight. Also just after that you missed the Rearnaked choke which would have saved you kneeling on his throat.....

[@jamesparent9106]

I think the first technique uses too many fine motor skills. Why not do an arm drag for the first and second technique that way you don't need to know if he's touching you with 1 finger or his whole hand. The third technique works and is simple though, thanks for the video

[@AverageTeller-p6l]

I don't see this being useful in a typical fight.

[@specialunit0428]

I'm here preparing for prefect duty tomorrow.

[@Longtack55]

It takes me back to C & R training. Noice.

[@BrianTKessler]

That knee to the throat hold looks like a legal trick bag.

[@Xentrick]

Now do it a again with a partner that's resisting, flailing, throwing heat, yelling screaming, biting and scratching. Can't wait for part 2!

[@deputyd5422]

Try it buddy. He'll drop you

[@Momsspaghetti777]

At first I found it funny how people respect this but not aikido. Now I see it's because aikido teaches defense from strikes, this is preemptive so it never goes into strikes. Small joint manipulation RARELY works in the heat of a fight, but it never hurts to use it as kindling.

[@bikersoncall]

I respect Aikido, I think it's probably a good base for doormen to know. I don't see any of it working against a 'real' fighter though, they don't punch in slow motion. You might have time to duck or weave, if he starts to swing at you, but best be able to counter strike or react with boxing, kick boxing, jujitsu etc. A really strong man is not going to let you twist his wrist etc , even with two hands. shrugs..

[@roisinxenapitman1604]

You do realise that pain compliant techniques are no longer accepted by the SIA?

[@hulkrattpack2718]

Roisin Pitman fuck sia her music is garbage and pansy

[@tekken20ironfilm61]

Funny reading all these worries over excessive force while shootings, stabbings, bombings have become normal. The man clearly instructs to give warnings and let the first push or touch slide. Most of these concerned critics never worked on a London door. The moment they touch you and don't listen to your calm warning ANYTHING can happen. They might have decided in their drunk, stoned or plain evil minds to kick your head in. Shut up if you dont do this job.

[@mididoctors]

Not show aggression tip was good advice

[@atyketu3794]

I like this technique.

[@harveyjones7891]

When people are drunk using pain doesn’t work so much arm baring Someone when drunk for example you may break the arm and they get up and still keep fighting with you will hurt in the morning but they will keep fighting

[@NoBody-nu6kx]

This is B.S. Youre not going to simply twist a big dudes hand and fold him in a second with no resistance. Especially if the dude is a big football player, or even worse, a wrestler. Boards....or in this case, a training partner laying down for a video, DONT hit back If you are big, learn how to wrestle and practice it, unless you work at an easy bar. If you are small or medium, work on your hands. Throw fast, and throw hard. Most dudes will be drunk, so you have an advantage. Make sure to be in dope shape too. Calisthenics and whatnot

[@tekken20ironfilm61]

Tyson Rodriguez Big dudes and wrestlers dont like their fingers to be broken. All that muscle, but still they react the same way like everybody else. The smarter ones try to keep their limbs tucked close, if they smell jitsu or aikido. They know they should be ware.

[@coconutsciencegirl9232]

A friend of mine was an officer and he could take someone down without any pain. It was so bizarre. Like gently but swiftly being put on the floor. You’d wait to busy your face and it wouldn’t happen. He was that good. And only those kinds of people should be officers of the law. Just saying.

[@timbozic5810]

this is super unrealistic lol if someone holds my head like this all he is getting is 3 4 to the head lol ?? also knee on the neck these days gets u attempted 2 degree (at least 3rd) ....so

[@deanwinter4849]

these are Aikido moves. I know lots of doormen who train aikido and they use these moves all the time to control people and not hurt them.

[@isabellam1936]

Aikido is the joke of the mma world. They don’t work in real life situations, they just look cool in controlled situations.

[@geoeconomics5629]

@@isabellam1936 True but it is better than nothing

[@spaceflawlessness]

"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face" Let me see you perform that in a real situation

[@NovaNationX]

guess his father was never able to “still” his nose while he was a baby/toddler

[@Deuger]

Why is he poking you with a finger?? is he ok?? i dont think this technique is realistic

[@godnnat]

People keep commenting about Excessive force?!? it's a control/submission technique, the amount of force you apply depends of the amount of resistance.. good video.

[@mo31293]

Looks good in the movies but cant see that working on the doors with someone aggressive and coked up.

[@teddygalasao4332]

Hellow I doll we're are you frome

[@kylen.6742]

That guy is lik 7 ft tall.

[@Zombies4207]

Teach em a lesson to never touch ahh gain

[@teddygalasao4332]

Nice 👍👍

[@tanakaiskaba2178]

Yes, I beliwve this shoupd work for me

[@KurtBenning]

I guess police won't be so tough with out martial arts training

[@davidthomason935]

Some intoxicated people are dull to pain that a sober person would feel. show me some techniques for then

[@Tobby4063]

Choke them.

[@TheRealJay33]

1:15 my favorite

[@SINdaBlock411]

jutaijutsu the best

[@lordmfitzgerald3rd754]

1:18, I think that is a big no no for the police nowadays after a little incident in America.

[@jayreimann3318]

That poor guy has carpel tunnel

[@AllStarWideReciever]

Jay Reimann lmfaooo

[@jitsu5489]

i'm more worried about a sucker punch than a push. Anybody can push somebodies arm away.

[@unclejoe4630]

Careful with the knee on neck. That's what murdered George Floyd. #blacklivesmatter

[@cd7613]

Would say that knee on the throat not a great idea for anybody who works as a professional…

[@lozhell]

That has to be some of the worst technique to teach door staff etc. How is any of this reasonable from a push!!!!

[@mattybt400]

You're joking, right?

[@lozhell]

So if you used one of these techniques while in work, knelt on someone's neck which has a very high risk of injury. Do you think the court will look kindly on you for using it if it showed that the person only pushed you? Does not really fall in the area of reasonable force, does it.

[@mattybt400]

Lawrence Helliadis That's a matter of opinion.

[@lozhell]

Not really, it's the law under seaction 3.1 criminal law act 1967 and seaction 78 criminal justice and immigration act 2008. The force you use has to be reasonable, i.e necessity and proportionate. Kneeling on someone's neck (which is a high risk move) is neither of them.

[@mattybt400]

The video is teaching a technique. It cannot and should not seek to explain every scenario where it would be judged reasonable or not. Lawrence Helliadis(Palmer v R ,1971 A.C. 814); " If there has been an attack so that self defence is reasonably necessary, it will be recognised that a person defending himself cannot weigh to a nicety the exact measure of his defensive action. If the jury thought that that in a moment of unexpected anguish a person attacked had only done what he honestly and instinctively thought necessary, that would be...evidence that only reasonable defensive action had [actually] been taken...". It is not necessary to prove that the person acted in response to level of violence actually being offered to them - but only that they acted in reponse to the circumstances as they genuinely believed them to be at the time. Each situation would be judged in it's own merits

[@Tobby4063]

Mean!!

[@thetacticalagenda875]

A defense attorney would eat you alive if you put your knee on someone's throat

[@manfalls1521]

I've never seen a guy push with one arm.

[@seahawksfan7298]

Law enforcement should NEVER kneel on a person’s neck like that! You could easily crush the windpipe! Training like this contributed to the death of George Floyd!

[@bloody5081]

Naw, you are just a dumbass who believes all that shit. The real reason he died was because he was on meth and fentanyl. He wouldn't have died otherwise. I have been held down like that as well, when i was in the army. But look at that, i'm still alive. So yea, all the blame goes on George himself. For being a criminal and using drugs.

[@seahawksfan7298]

Bill Nye The Nazi Spy well I WAS a police officer for 10 years and we were FORBIDDEN in my state to use force anywhere on the head, neck, groin, elbow, or knee joints. The reason it was forbidden was because it could cause serious bodily damage or death. We were also taught to immediately cease use of force, as soon as the person we were arresting was brought back into compliance. Whether George was on drugs or not, whether he had committed a crime or not, whether he resisted arrest or not; those officers acted inappropriately. Chauvin let it get personal and was punishing Floyd for it. Nothing Floyd did warranted his murder. I have the upmost respect for our military men and women, and have many family members who have served. But don’t try to compare whatever your military experience was to this incident; they are entirely UNRELATED. So maybe you should think twice about things you know NOTHING about, before you start calling people a dumbass!

[@chris_081]

@@bloody5081 perhaps do some research. Knee restraint prone position has been causing deaths since the 90's.

[@rektproject6045]

if you do this in public or in the view of cameras you could be in trouble for using more force than necessary. placing your leg on neck especially. Easy target for a lawsuit. If you dont trust me look up human rights act and criminal law act in regards to use of force

[@OzzyJClarke]

I prefer to use these techniques rather than fighting : )

[@Radddan]

you're fucking hurting him dude

[@jamesbroughton7635]

Nice show with the Hoofs bro, unfortunately placing a hand on you doesnt give you express rights to use force. Of course there is walk away, ring Police as the primary technique!

[@dratsab1980able]

Its just an example, no one calmly walks up and puts one hand on you, its when the skuffle has begun and at some point his arm is near or in that position, then you use these techniques. You cant just walk away or you have failed at ur job infront of everyone! Thats why ur there.

[@jamesbroughton7635]

dratsab1980 Mate you are either very new to this job or one lucky son of a bitch! Where I work, I am more worried about the GROUP of drunk and out of it Gang members coming at me, with one picking a bottle out of the trash can ready to either put over my head or inside my guts, with his mates in on the 'Boots' Chorus! -That's the reality of a street fight! I wouldnt go using those techniques if you paid me to mate. Furthermore I dont see why you are on here demonstrating for, when clearly you have no basis to assume that they will work in the field, outside this video except for what you tell me!! I dont work in Girly bars or Clubs where you might work and where these techniques may realistically work on yuppies and drunk kids! I work in an environment whereby they sweep up the eyeballs at closing and every guy is well over 6ft, black, has a criminal record and ultimately fights in a pack!! I take those issues into very serious consideration before I launch off any Offensive or Defensive response. Again, if you worked in bars where I have then you will know from real experience that ringing the Police and keeping things cool is the very real option for myself and my staff... And not to go seizing opportunities to show off your Martial Arts skills by inflaming situations and generally initiating things that could get my staff injured, fined and jailed or killed!! Simply my son, we dont walk away from trouble ever! However, in Tough bars we manage a hostile or unmanageable situation back into a manageable one. A 4th Dan Jiu Jitsu instructor has no business telling me what's best for me and my crew! Lesson over.

[@dratsab1980able]

Lucky son of a bitch clearly! We dont have bars like that over here, I didnt think anywhere does outside of a '90's gangster movie, if its that bad man, stop watching this and go buy a revolver! :-)

[@jamesbroughton7635]

dratsab1980 No need for a revolver or flashy Chop suey techniques neither, just plain common sense my son prevails all the time!

[@JrobAlmighty]

Uh aikido is almost useless. Not as an art but even high level proficiency will not result in high percentage results. You learn some useful techniques but it's so situational that if aikido techniques are all you rely on then you're ill prepared.

[@waxa7290]

Derek Chauvin definitely saw this

[@shrivel_d]

i’ve seen that knee move on George floyd

[@biggersilver68]

No you haven’t. You don’t keep the knee there for 8 minutes after they are down and calm

[@_Aliens_]

this guy got abused

[@anasalazar5556]

But the niece under the face is dangerous that’s what cost the died of floid the biggest tragedy

[@livelearningfast5668]

Hello friends

[@jspbtactical3669]

Yeah don’t use this now especially the knee on the neck

[@lu9thix]

I work 12 years in hospital doing restrains of different people and mental health patients, arm triangle choke works, or double arm bar hold.This is a joke.

[@donaldlove4547]

George Floyd would have a problem with some of these techniques….

[@ryanbarthel5352]

well this didn't age well

[@barthj21]

please take just a little more time explaining some techniques

[@siliconrockstar187]

Lol. I don't know shit but even I can tell you that a technique that relies on controlling a finger is useless.

[@mikepayne7479]

shocking teaching people to do that in the UK is setting them up for conviction!!

[@isabellam1936]

Give me a break. These techniques would never work in real life. This guy has obviously never been in real street fights. Stop with the fake showboating moves.

[@LONDONBIZZLE]

Never ever put your knee on someone's neck! Head maybe but neck never! Such a stupid thing to be teaching people working on the doors

[@bluu4215]

Funny how u guys watch this to learn u guys do not know how to fight

[@MrBadintentionss]

speak for yourself. did it ever occur to you that everybody starts from a position of not knowing how to fight?

[@bluu4215]

@@MrBadintentionss then ddont search it up just fight and this is not fighting he literally sat on top of him

[@isabellam1936]

What a joke.

[@lu9thix]

JOKE

[@christopherbaker1716]

This aged poorly. Lol