5:55 Besides, even if Palpatine DID lose on purpose, nobody seems to realize that Windu was holding back as well. He wasn't trying to kill Sidious during the duel, only to disarm and apprehend him. He only intended to kill Sidious after Sidious unleashed his Force lightning at him and Windu realized Palpatine was far too powerful (both politically and with the Force) and dangerous to keep alive.
@arronfrazier78736 ай бұрын
Your comment is something, I've said since the movie! Mace intentions was to arrest Palpatine and not hurt him. That went out the window after Palpatine killed his friends and kept shooting lighting at Windu. Mace said, F that! He is too dangerous to be left alive with him having control of the courts and the Senate.
@chrismlone6 ай бұрын
Palpetine lost the light saber fight 100%. The difference was the power of his force lightening.
@arronfrazier78736 ай бұрын
@@chrismlone Palpatine was going all out to kill Windu and Yoda! He knew initially, Windu intentions wasn't to harm him! That changed quickly! From the start, Palpatine was trying to kill Yoda because he knew Yoda wasn't there to arrest him like Windu but to kill him!
@bryankennedy22576 ай бұрын
Now that will be something to watch Mace vs Vader....
@Leondrius6 ай бұрын
Cutting Mace's hand off again was a troll move. 😄
@kevin-2.16 ай бұрын
Vader after slicing Mace hand off again. Mace: Not again! Me: 😂
@Young_BZ4 ай бұрын
@@kevin-2.1 Mace "Mutherfucker" xD
@christinestevenson43046 ай бұрын
I love the videos you do! Thank you for all the interesting work you do!
@Onio_3626 ай бұрын
Mace was done dirty imo
@Hiipower236 ай бұрын
Damn love this story ...should consider doing a complete timeline lore for canon and legends
@joshuaschwartz499419 күн бұрын
We only see Vader truly lose when hes dealing with personal conflict, thus inhibiting his force connection. Without conflict, I dont believe anybody bests peak Vader
@gloriouslysarcastic80006 ай бұрын
Vader either dominates his mind or crushes his throat
@Khalif-AllahEntertainment6 ай бұрын
Wait until SWT's Vader Episode 2
@AmirSayedal-Isra5 ай бұрын
Mace also had a very unique Force ability known as “Shatterpoint” to which he just needed to be close to his opponent and he could find his weaknesses. Vader’s suit may have augmented his strength, but decreased his speed and maneuvering abilities. If Obi-Wan could win using Soresu, (though he used a Sith technique to cut Vader’s limbs off), and Starkiller could win using a hybrid form, Mace would have won with Vaapad.
@levogerstevenson45614 ай бұрын
I simply agree with the verdict
@RogueAlpha20006 ай бұрын
What if Luke time traveled to the clone wars and has anakin as a father figure. The Jedi council having huge doubts about two sky walkers being together and the emperor taking the opportunity to manipulate both of them.
@ElTwOJaY6 ай бұрын
Mace Windu is a boss in the Episode III Game
@59rlmccormack4 ай бұрын
There is a way Vader could beat Mace, especially since the former is supposed to be around in the OG trilogy era, but that fight would certainly be nuts!
@michaelgarcia86026 ай бұрын
For me it hard to say. That is a Big ? Mark.
@Wolfenacht6 ай бұрын
This is the one that pisses me off. How could someone so in tune with the force, a lightsaber master with no equal, get his hand cut off by a lesser darth vader? I get that it was a "cheap shot", but Mace already suspected Anakin, even in this vide you can see him side eye Anakin. No way in hell did he get the drop on mace, just not happening.
@Young_BZ4 ай бұрын
I'd assume Vader would win and would overcome the great Jedi.
@jorgereyes9676 ай бұрын
The robotic dog beat everybody sure he did
@majornomad5952Ай бұрын
I completely agree with the second theory. I don't like the comic theory. It just would not happen, Jedi master windu would win Comfortably
@josh2Sides26 ай бұрын
Was... Mace dead .. heard George say he would lived if he continued on having creative control ....
@markykrajky134 ай бұрын
I would say it’s the complete opposite Vader would crush mace. The scaling for Vader is far above Mace windu I think there is some glazing going on between him in the sidous fight. Mace almost got beat by ventress and admitted he could lost if she used both sabres. Vader even scales past yoda by rotj
@garybowes30816 ай бұрын
Oh yes Mace windu would definitely beat Darth Vader
@relaxanddream39716 ай бұрын
What if palatine was trailed after losing to mace windu in revenge of the sith?
@SurefireMa1566 ай бұрын
Naw, windu beat Sidious in revenge of the sith. The Sidious we see in comics and darth vader is farrrrr stronger. The sith became wayyyy stronger after the fall of the Jedi both because of the force being tilted towards the dark, and all the knowledge that was accumulated after the fall of the Jedi.
@gabrielaj20666 ай бұрын
Not true the Jedi were always stronger. They were just arrogant.
@SurefireMa1566 ай бұрын
@@gabrielaj2066 yoda literally says he was weaker than Sidious. They were more numerous and had the support of the galaxy, that’s what kept them in power.
@gabrielaj20666 ай бұрын
@@SurefireMa156 yeah exactly they basically lost their faith because almost the galaxy was against the Jedi. Palpatine labeled them as villains because he was in power of government.
@jordannaser95496 ай бұрын
Well, their powers were certainly amped after Revenge of the Sith. The Jedi were dealt a major defeat and their hold on things slipped
@glasses6856 ай бұрын
Yeah, I agree, Vader would get destroyed by Vace. If Vader can't beat Obi-Wan he stands no chance against Windu. Mace would just use Vaapad to reflect the dark side back at Vader, until he eventually gets mad and makes a mistake out of anger.
@tjcarr80976 ай бұрын
Not sure Vaapaad would be able to handle Vader’s power. True, it handled Sidious. But! Vader was more powerful than all of them
@gabrielecarboni18316 ай бұрын
in canon i think vader has become much more powerful than windu even when it comes to a duel.
@jorgereyes9676 ай бұрын
He's one of the most overrated characters in Star Wars
@Metoisbak6 ай бұрын
Which one? I mean, I disagree with you either way. Just like to clarify
@jorgereyes9676 ай бұрын
@@Metoisbak so what what ever
@Darthvader20thАй бұрын
Agree 😂
@JamesJones-mt9co6 ай бұрын
mace was a horrible jedi grand master
@SamuelGalvan_6 ай бұрын
Mace Windu was not a grand master
@Leondrius6 ай бұрын
Anakin fan detected. 🧐
@muslimayupov5 ай бұрын
why? because he didnt babysit a spoiled child named anakin?
@russmeyer96416 ай бұрын
I disagree according to star wars tgem self they said vader is the best lightsaber duelist of all time cannon
@RetneysHolocron6 ай бұрын
Where is that stated? 👀
@gabrielecarboni18316 ай бұрын
Vader has been established in canon as the best duelist in Sith history. Sidious is also superior to Windu, just look at how calmly he defeated Maul and Savage without commitment at times. And yes Sidious deliberately let himself be beaten by Windu simply if Sidious had decided to defeat him he would have used the double lightsaber it was unexpected for Anakin's arrival. Obviously all this is just my thoughts, having said that, excellent video. @@RetneysHolocron
@RetneysHolocron6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! But I'm wondering where it is stated that Vader is the best duelist.
@gabrielecarboni18316 ай бұрын
@@RetneysHolocronIf I'm not mistaken, now I don't remember if it was in a novel or in another product of a list of the best red sword dualists in which Vader was in first place. Forgive me if I don't remember where this ranking was present.
@Untouchable13454 ай бұрын
Vader would wipe the floor with wimdu Windu is nowhere close to vader s skills and not to.talk about force power and stamina Windu is overrated but nothing special He didnt beat anyone in a duel he lost agaimst dooku and yoda but won against sidious????😂😂😂😂😂 That is why noone can.chamge my mind that palpatine faked defeat
@Darthvader20th3 ай бұрын
But he defeat weak sidious 🤓 Vapaad > all sith 🤓 Sidious >windu Vader> windu Luke >windu Yoda>windu Ben kenobi >windu Kylo ren > windu Canon windu can't even defeat maul and dooku 😂