I Called Every Fisker Service Center in The Country For Help: Here's How it Went

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Rich Rebuilds

Rich Rebuilds

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@richardkonsky
@richardkonsky Ай бұрын
a company should be forced to make their cars opensource if they go bankrupt as per right to repair in some sense
@MrMCDiggles
@MrMCDiggles Ай бұрын
Louis Rossman is that you?
@richardkonsky
@richardkonsky Ай бұрын
@@MrMCDiggles not me but it sounds like it.
@malcolmw513
@malcolmw513 Ай бұрын
Well, if they don’t get bought. You don’t want to do something that would make them less likely to be bought and rolled into warranty service by another company. Maybe make a short window where it’s “be bought” or “open source” to speed up the decision.
@BonsaiKodama-o8e
@BonsaiKodama-o8e Ай бұрын
I can see your perspective but in these scenarios why wouldn't it be best to play into the interest of the 1. The owners already invested 2. The mechanics willing to work on these 3. Anyone new who might be willing to take on the risk ​@@malcolmw513
@jimwhitehead1532
@jimwhitehead1532 Ай бұрын
If they go bankrupt you can't force them to do anything. You can yell at an empty storefront all day long.
@mansonitefirefox
@mansonitefirefox Ай бұрын
Update it. If it bricks it, sell the windscreen for $10k and be out for no money.
@ryanlavender2411
@ryanlavender2411 Ай бұрын
Yeah this cat could be parted out for like $20k
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan Ай бұрын
@mansonitefirefox I'm wondering what the highest windshield price will be for this in the next 10yrs? Eventually, nobody that owns one will be willing to pay for a windshield but I still wanna know that number. It would be worth decent money if it were actually a good vehicle but it's not so the cost has to be suitable to maintain the novelty of owning this POS.
@imakro69
@imakro69 Ай бұрын
​Chinese would make those, even now fuyao manufactures oem glass for mercedes a class​@@veganpotterthevegan
@r.mvance7517
@r.mvance7517 Ай бұрын
Have them come to you, film the whole thing and bribe the guy for his toolset :)
@venomous0229
@venomous0229 Ай бұрын
Never thought that you could mechanically total a car for a winshield. Crazy time we live in.
@SalemTechsperts
@SalemTechsperts Ай бұрын
No refunds…
@ChrisyCreator
@ChrisyCreator Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@YKGdiy
@YKGdiy Ай бұрын
FBI OPEN UP!!! 😂😂
@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket
@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket Ай бұрын
No refunds unless you use a credit card and refuse to agree to that policy but insist on moving forward anyway. I've had companies state "blah blah blah we'll screw you over" and I said "no thanks but I still need service so I'll pay you anyway". They're usually confused, they never say no. Because all they know is to get your money. Record the call and if a dispute comes up you'll laugh so hard at their lawyers and supervisors for thinking their rules applied when you explication said "no but I'll pay you for the service anyway" when they mention the ToS/EULA.
@snikpoh87
@snikpoh87 Ай бұрын
I needed this collab, Rich doesn’t talk enough about the gooch dust he has in his cars
@KutWrite
@KutWrite Ай бұрын
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket Have you tried this? I suspect THEY will be the ones laughing. Remember, your credit card's TOS say you agree to THEIR chosen arbitrator INSTEAD of going to court. How do you get around that?
@XxBigYenYensxX
@XxBigYenYensxX Ай бұрын
25:41 to answer your question, Rich, please keep going on this project. The discovery alone is fascinating, and it represents a much larger battle for modern consumers
Ай бұрын
He definitely have to do it, he can help so many people who are stuck with this car.
@billpilaud8647
@billpilaud8647 Ай бұрын
Fix it Rich! This stuff made you famous - the pain the suffering the commentary - decades of material. And we need an another real EV maker in America. Fight the right to repair!
@edu7979
@edu7979 29 күн бұрын
Keep sucking off shitty evs nobody anywhere wants lol
@repentnow1720
@repentnow1720 Ай бұрын
Big 3 Module Engineer here; bricking modules (and therefore bricking the entire vehicle) is a very valid concern. The one rep who stated every update must be performed in order is 100% correct. The individual who stated every Warning Light / DTC must be resolved and cleared before re-programming is also 100% correct. I would also add that a Diagnostic Self-test should be performed after every update in the series, as well as making sure your 12 VOLT battery's SOC is at least 80% before doing any module re-programming. Keeping a charger on it might be a good idea too! Before you do anything, talk to your owner's group and find out the specific failure points, then take their collective wisdom and do all that you can to avoid those previously discovered pitfalls.
@alexandrecouture2462
@alexandrecouture2462 Ай бұрын
Needing to perform every update versions is a very, very dumb design.
@thedopplereffect00
@thedopplereffect00 Ай бұрын
I would expect nothing less from a big 3 engineer to expect modules to brick themselves... 😂 hardware in any other industry can be reset and flashed with current software
@BSGSV
@BSGSV Ай бұрын
Or just buy a BMW.
@joes9954
@joes9954 Ай бұрын
@@alexandrecouture2462 Some HP servers had certain firmware that required this due to certain major changes - such as the end of TLS 1.0 and/or to patch potential exploits. Since the company I worked for at the time hired a tech firm that was run by illiterate monkeys, there was no organized patching of firmware at all, so when it got to the point it affected them, they could no longer access the devices to perform the updates, leaving it all up to me because I did.
@TrueGrantsta
@TrueGrantsta Ай бұрын
As a Big 3 Module Engineer, can you explain why your peers design modules that are so prone to being bricked?
@ascendantP
@ascendantP Ай бұрын
$599 for a software update that might turn your car into a brick. Got it.
@DARKredDOLLAR
@DARKredDOLLAR Ай бұрын
Totally worth it.
@bubba99009
@bubba99009 Ай бұрын
The one that wanted to charge separately for every individual version since 1.0 and only included 5 hours of time (total?) was something else.
@tanssi2145
@tanssi2145 Ай бұрын
I still remember Fisker Ocean owners on Rich’s first video, demanding that we all concede that both buying one and investing in the company stocks was a brilliant idea, and now we’re here
@redracerb18
@redracerb18 Ай бұрын
In most cases it could be just the labor cost as the primary cost and the software license as the rest
@bigmizzymike
@bigmizzymike Ай бұрын
​@@redracerb18"Labor" 😂😂😂
@ericjansen9042
@ericjansen9042 Ай бұрын
If you have it in earth mode, it's FWD, but if you change it to Fun or Hyper mode, it's supposed to be AWD. I say this, because I saw you guys had it in earth mode.
@iKingRPG
@iKingRPG Ай бұрын
nice catch
@RichRebuilds
@RichRebuilds Ай бұрын
good eye, I usually keep it in earth when casually putting around. I had it in hyper when I was doing the tests. I don't even think earth has enough power to break traction at any given time
@dkjoses12
@dkjoses12 Ай бұрын
Unc rich look into this
@Mac_F87
@Mac_F87 Ай бұрын
@@KutWritetwo comments above your one…
@DadYouNeverHad
@DadYouNeverHad Ай бұрын
@@RichRebuildsoh, it absolutely does. If you have a lead foot and keep it in Earth mode, you'll go through your front set of tires quick. I just dismantled my Ocean and lifted my PDU up off the front motor to try to figure out why my Ocean kept going into (N) suddenly and without warning, regardless of speed. To my surprise, the two bolts which secured the power tabs (+ and -) to the front motor from the PDU were NOT tight. One was so loose I could unscrew it with my fingers; the other couldn't have been more than 20 in/lbs tight. I think the CPU thought that the motor dropped out, and cut power and put it in (N). That fault also seemed to redirect all power requests to the 12v battery, draining it VERY quickly. Going on a longer test drive tomorrow to see if I've fixed the issue.
@c.a.nixiii4650
@c.a.nixiii4650 Ай бұрын
The BMW badges? Hilarious! And just as reliable! You forgot the badge for the Steering Wheel! But you are gonna get sued! And 15:18? 🤷🏻‍♂🤦🏻‍♂🤔🤣
@-CLASSIFIED-
@-CLASSIFIED- 19 күн бұрын
arguably less reliable then a bmw
@AMomcilo1
@AMomcilo1 Ай бұрын
I love these Fisker videos.
@BixbyConsequence
@BixbyConsequence Ай бұрын
"Each car responds differently" -- Lol. Exactly what the car-buying public wants to hear.
@ozzierabbit587
@ozzierabbit587 Ай бұрын
It means "Avoid this car at all costs".
@mongramosjr
@mongramosjr Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 you want it, there you have it.
@adeusjefe
@adeusjefe Ай бұрын
that was the most stupid thing i ever heard 🤣
@edci9370
@edci9370 Ай бұрын
Reminds me the 90's over clocking cpu 's. good times spending over $xx k to buy that thrill. I think one gets more pleasure spending that in vegas?
@Craftimonium
@Craftimonium Ай бұрын
Yeah this just means I’ll be buying last years model of whatever new car comes out. I’m not dealing with being an owner of a new new car, it’s basically beta testing nowadays.
@thedopplereffect00
@thedopplereffect00 Ай бұрын
This is criminal. If a company goes bankrupt they should be required to open source all software required to operate a vehicle.
@sauronringholder5042
@sauronringholder5042 Ай бұрын
Definitely agree on needing to open source a vehicle, if every single bit of code contained in the car's software was created in-house, but one would think there's a whole lot in there that wasn't coded in house, and was used under license from others. So, I'd imagine it's a bit sticky legally to open source things with that in mind since those companies, I doubt, ever intended their efforts to become public domain.
@totalyep
@totalyep Ай бұрын
Hard to do when the company has no money. You can make all the demands but it won’t happen.
@joey_f4ke238
@joey_f4ke238 Ай бұрын
@@sauronringholder5042 Their code wouldn't be public domain, just the tools from the bankrupt company would need to be, anything else they used from a 3rd party can stay closed as long as it performs it's role correctly, like external api's or other stuff
@joey_f4ke238
@joey_f4ke238 Ай бұрын
@@totalyep It really takes no money to release the tools and some basic documentation to the public, it's not making an entire new software
@steford
@steford Ай бұрын
@@totalyep They could be forced to create an opensource, basic firmware at launch. If they go bankrupt it reverts to that. I'd like to see it for Android phones too. Not prepared to support the car/phone anymore? Let people do it themselves.
@moisesBTW
@moisesBTW Ай бұрын
oh wow, i wasnt expecting *THE GREATEST TECHNICIAN THATS EVER LIVED* greatest crossover in anime history
@jeremys9283
@jeremys9283 Ай бұрын
I actually watched one of his videos right before this one and was so confused, like "wth has YT bugged and come back to my previous video?" lmao
@MrInternFTL
@MrInternFTL Ай бұрын
Salem posted a video a few months ago about borrowing a car from rich.
@jebrehbaker8613
@jebrehbaker8613 Ай бұрын
Name it Billy
@ethanking4954
@ethanking4954 Ай бұрын
Pfp is crazy
@DARKredDOLLAR
@DARKredDOLLAR Ай бұрын
The Pringles can in his jeans lmao
@MontagoDK
@MontagoDK Ай бұрын
Fisker should just opensource the software and let people fix it themselves. A group of 5 talented AND incentived developers could easily fix the software problems..
@bltzcstrnx
@bltzcstrnx 28 күн бұрын
Open-sourcing previously closed-sourced software is tricky. Many of these manufacturers integrate third-party systems and libraries. Those part can't be open-sourced since they don't belong to Fisker. What you'll get in the end is just a bunch of codes that won't compile.
@MontagoDK
@MontagoDK 28 күн бұрын
@@bltzcstrnx Yeah, i know about that.. I heard somewhere that some brands have a mix of 100's of components and each have their own piece of software and license :-/
@bobnogera
@bobnogera 6 сағат бұрын
Fisker is in bankruptcy so all assets are in control of the court. The update would be considered a asset { owners are willing to pay a Grand Plus for it).
@carrtb
@carrtb Ай бұрын
@22:21. It’s a boost. A buck takes a higher voltage and bucks it back to a lower. A boost will take it from a lower to a higher voltage.
@DJdoppIer
@DJdoppIer Ай бұрын
What a dystopian world we live in, where software updates for vehicles can brick them into a several-ton paperweight. Truly a time to be alive.
@powertothesheeple5422
@powertothesheeple5422 Ай бұрын
I'll be driving ICE until it's illegal. Then I might still do it.
@luckylanno
@luckylanno Ай бұрын
​ @powertothesheeple5422 ICE aren't immune to this either, unless you deliberately buy low tech. I bet anything in the last 20 years that's fuel injected has a computer in the loop that could fail.
@Avetho
@Avetho Ай бұрын
@@powertothesheeple5422 You see, that's how you do it, you just slap a beefy, very silent muffler on it with some engine bay sound deadening and now even at low speed the engine barely makes a sound, the cooling pumps of an EV would be louder. Its always funny to me that, unless you've opened up the exhaust for high performance, ICE cars are so silent that all the noise you hear from the outside at a cruise be that at 50 mph or 120 mph is tyre noise, where EVs are a lot louder due to their weight. Edit: I forgot the reason for making it quiet, its so cops who are being paid by the -corps- -globalists- _government_ don't pull you over for suspicion of driving a gas vehicle. You also turn the exhaust pipe down, stick fake EV badges on it, and cover up and paint over the bumper exhaust exit hole.
@feandil666
@feandil666 Ай бұрын
The Electric Garage should become a Fisker specialist. It will be a captive market...
@brian5o
@brian5o Ай бұрын
That’s precisely what I was thinking. If anyone could do it, these guys could.
@danielstefanovic2604
@danielstefanovic2604 Ай бұрын
Yes problem is they need access to the software
@lillexus5589
@lillexus5589 Ай бұрын
​@@danielstefanovic2604the software should be crackable if you put enough smart people at it, that usually requires some money and time though.
@matthewnelson3894
@matthewnelson3894 Ай бұрын
@@danielstefanovic2604 They just need to contact the FOA and they can get certified to receive FAST.
@PeteLenz
@PeteLenz Ай бұрын
Not enough of them sold to be worthwhile
@deaddevil7
@deaddevil7 Ай бұрын
We are one company bankrupcy away from a new bill being introduced to cover this situation. It's not reasonable for anyone to keep this status quo.
@MichaelGammon21bravo
@MichaelGammon21bravo Ай бұрын
16:30 The pringles can in the pants...Classic
@catonehere
@catonehere Ай бұрын
WTF
@hellish8286
@hellish8286 Ай бұрын
I wouldn’t put it past him 😂
@randomnik70
@randomnik70 Ай бұрын
Almost didn't notice the Technician's Great Big Updating Probe hiding in his pants at 16:00
@derek6575
@derek6575 Ай бұрын
No kidding, what is that thing?.❤
@starkead3087
@starkead3087 22 күн бұрын
dude I was searching one comment mentionning him
@lessgrep
@lessgrep Ай бұрын
5 hours of tech time. Yeah, right, coffee won't drink itself while hardware update is uploading...
@1337GameDev
@1337GameDev Ай бұрын
Actually, it's more involved than that usually. It's a kin to bios flash for a laptop/desktop, but for every module. So you need to test things and ensure calibration is correct after too.
@lessgrep
@lessgrep Ай бұрын
@@1337GameDev Usually end-user(which is mechanic) rarely do the stuff you described at least when we are talking about reglamented firmware upgrade from the manufacturer(its fully scripted, to exclude human error as much as possible). Did some firware and end-user software dev in my days. Although in case of non-supported vehicle with defunct manufacturer it may be more difficult than usual.
@1337GameDev
@1337GameDev Ай бұрын
@@lessgrep The same could be said about providing bios updates. I personally don't care about the %, I think the possibility for you to control your device regardless of the manufacturer is what should be upheld. I don't want the manufacturer to just say "ehhh, we don't want to provide the software and tools, and want to hide schematics, so you need to purchase the next product so we make money." I don't want them in control over the lifetime of the product. Sure, if it needs a service, I should have the ability to replace that service with one I want, whenever. This means that people have control over their device and can use it for as long as possible, regardless if the manufacturer deems it not profitable to extend the life, and force people to buy new.
@lessgrep
@lessgrep Ай бұрын
@@1337GameDev Unfortunately car industry is the dirtiest proprietary bog you can find. Clogged with patents, lack of opened documentation, use of common protocols and so on. And modern cars are making things worse. Allowing owner to shut you from your own vehicle, since lots of functionality now may require some sort of online connection to company backend services. Just remember BMW and their "brilliant" idea of subscription to car features, like steering wheel heating and so on.
@1337GameDev
@1337GameDev Ай бұрын
@@lessgrep Yeah, we just need a more liberal administration that will actually put consumer rights over corporate greed and profits :/
@TheRustyCracker
@TheRustyCracker Ай бұрын
Got offered 8k to buy one in FL….. was going to part it out…. You want it ?
@jemjo
@jemjo Ай бұрын
Where at?
@dkjoses12
@dkjoses12 Ай бұрын
Oh snap another channel I’m subbed to enters the chat.
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan Ай бұрын
@TheRustyCracker please buy it. We want to see as many people as possible live out the nightmare.
@abigalanderson7494
@abigalanderson7494 Ай бұрын
Wise investment
@vaibhavdlv
@vaibhavdlv Ай бұрын
@@veganpotterthevegan The contents, man!!
@destruct61
@destruct61 Ай бұрын
Definitely get it updated!!! Go with the shop that said that you have to go in sequence they seem to know what they're talking about and have everything ready
@cr4zyg047
@cr4zyg047 Ай бұрын
So nice that those voice actors could take a break from day drinking to read those scripts for you
@Tomd4850
@Tomd4850 Ай бұрын
See if there are other Fisker owners around you that need updates, so you can get someone to fly in. That could really help some of the other owners in the area out that are in the same predicament.
@25566
@25566 Ай бұрын
Then 5 fiskers get bricked on the same day🤣
@miss2doggies
@miss2doggies Ай бұрын
Update the car. No guts, no glory!
@puzer1
@puzer1 Ай бұрын
seriously, nobody is here for anything less....
@bubba99009
@bubba99009 Ай бұрын
Yea - especially since 1.x was supposed to be total garbage. Not like he has very functional software at the moment.
@vaibhavdlv
@vaibhavdlv Ай бұрын
As a software engineer for last 15 years, I say - Send it!!
@chiefdenis
@chiefdenis Ай бұрын
​@@vaibhavdlv as a software user for the past 20 years, I say "better the devil you know than the angel you don't"😂.
@ghp0518
@ghp0518 Ай бұрын
Considering the price of the car there's literally no bad outcome of the software update. You do the software update: - it works and you have a better car. - it doesn't work you have a bricked car which you can sell for parts worth several times more than you bought it for
@TheEVAddict
@TheEVAddict Ай бұрын
Come to Jacksonville Florida - we have the best engineers at Karma Jacksonville who can update your Fisker. Call for Shawn!
@gixer912
@gixer912 Ай бұрын
You got charged for that usb cable, did you keep it or was it one time use?
@DMalek
@DMalek Ай бұрын
It was rent only😂
@jerrydwyer9057
@jerrydwyer9057 Ай бұрын
I think it became hazardous waste
@vaibhavdlv
@vaibhavdlv Ай бұрын
Yeah, you saw the guy too it with him!! Black people getting robbed in daylight!! 😆😆
@catbert7
@catbert7 Ай бұрын
@@jerrydwyer9057 Every cable that touches Fisker data becomes hazardous waste.
@JOfAllT
@JOfAllT Ай бұрын
he actually didn't get the software updates. that was a fake invoice, just for giggles.
@IIBundo
@IIBundo Ай бұрын
16:49 Brother is PACKIN!!!
@RemoteStartGuy
@RemoteStartGuy 27 күн бұрын
We are buying a 2023 Ocean one from a dealer in California. They have already done the water pump and door handle recalls and it's on 2.2. So glad your doing this with a Fisker right now. Thinking of buying a lower software, non recall fixed one for me to toy with myself. Thank you.
@CarGeek360
@CarGeek360 Ай бұрын
Buying a car like this would be stupidity for the majority of people, but it’s smart for a large KZbinr like Rich to do this, so he can make amazing content for the rest of us
@richarda3659
@richarda3659 Ай бұрын
KZbin car guys are famous for staging "stunts" for views and likes.
@J.O.R_BR_Overclocking
@J.O.R_BR_Overclocking Ай бұрын
You might wanna try SerenityEV in Phoenix they are the first national just accredited Fisker Ocean service center (getting all the tool and computers from Fisker this week).
@BSGSV
@BSGSV Ай бұрын
Once upon a time, I updated the software on my Garmin GPS. It turned the GPS into a brick. I lost $150. I was upset. If a software update turned my $70,000 car into a brick, I might consider taking up hunting.
@TrueGrantsta
@TrueGrantsta Ай бұрын
$10,000 car. It's only a $70,000 car if Fisker were to keep building & selling them.... and if they were able to stay in business, then they'd be able to sort out the bricking issues. It really makes me wonder WTF the fisker software guys were doing that makes the car so prone to being bricked.
@HughJashole69
@HughJashole69 Ай бұрын
​@@TrueGrantsta70000$ car. People have purchased these POS for around that price for the top model. Its possible they can look to get it updated and potentially get it bricked
@barneyjensen4470
@barneyjensen4470 Ай бұрын
What a POS Fisker the person is. Criminal and should be charged legally. Rich, there's going to be more windshields available than un bricked cars.
@sgtalstrafficticketblog2452
@sgtalstrafficticketblog2452 Ай бұрын
@@TrueGrantstaI thought it was supposed to be a $40,000 SUV mid market. I wonder what happened to that.
@GalaxieMarauder
@GalaxieMarauder Ай бұрын
Cheap IT guys from Indian universities ​@@TrueGrantsta
@StuckOnAFireHydrant
@StuckOnAFireHydrant Ай бұрын
Now THAT was an unexpected crossover XD. One of my favorite car and IT guys coming together
@SalemTechsperts
@SalemTechsperts Ай бұрын
🫡
@cflynn3684
@cflynn3684 Ай бұрын
Love your Salem techpersts reference. I had the honor of talking to him and joking with him about bill burr in the commments back when he just took off.
@jeffcicale
@jeffcicale Ай бұрын
This has been one hell of an awesome series....wishing you nothing but the best with this project!
@bhagbir510
@bhagbir510 Ай бұрын
God the fisker series of video you pumping out is probably the best of all time 😂 comedy gold
@stephenbeattie6606
@stephenbeattie6606 Ай бұрын
Go to Albany and get the software update. I own an Ultra model, and I want to see how the process goes. I am on the 2.0 software (which updated over the air), and am waiting for the 2.2 software update. I have over 10,000 miles on my car.
@billmyke746
@billmyke746 Ай бұрын
A you are waiting for a SOFTWARE update from a dead company? Sigh...
@CrappyCar
@CrappyCar Ай бұрын
@@billmyke746 2.2 is out at some of the places Rich called.
@PH8592
@PH8592 Ай бұрын
@@billmyke746 Have a search on here - someone has been pumping out 2.2 OTA very recently (past week or so) - it's not as daft as it sounds
@hometownarcade
@hometownarcade Ай бұрын
Awesome video. As a Fisker owner in MA, can Electrified Garage please become a certified Fisker repair center and get the FAST tool? It is a great car just such a poorly managed company. How cars were allowed to be driven with the 1.0 software is just crazy. Part of me thinks if they waited until version 2.0, they would not have gotten so much negative press and cancelled orders but then again they probably would have run out of cash first.
@kidtheday
@kidtheday Ай бұрын
that mechanic at the end was extremely knowledgeable. That was awesome, keep up the good work both of yall!!!
@toobusy63
@toobusy63 Ай бұрын
It's a nice-looking vehicle. I hope you get the kinks worked out without a complete overhaul.
@vincei4252
@vincei4252 Ай бұрын
Rich, unlike Fisker the software that we (team of 4) wrote for monitoring and setting up the McLaren F1 super-car back between 1990 and 1992 at Tag McLaren in the UK I believe is still in use on the cars using an ancient Compaq laptop and a piece of inhouse designed hardware called a CA-13 to this day. I was astounded to find that out a few years ago. I believe there was an effort to modernize that stuff.
@JCJW101
@JCJW101 Ай бұрын
It's definitely been updated, we use modern high power laptops on much newer software now. All the teams use the McLaren system though.
@tiagom.2706
@tiagom.2706 Ай бұрын
Keep the car. The car is great and you know it. Torque steer is there, not great but you get used to it 😀 For the rest updates and service will fix most of the issues. FOA is recreating the service the owners needed and possibly even improving it.
@depsilon4
@depsilon4 Ай бұрын
Find anther totaled ocean and pull all the modules that would update, perform the update on your modules and if it bricks, swap in the salvage modules as a recovery option.
@mrdabeetle1
@mrdabeetle1 Ай бұрын
I honestly think that this is the perfect opportunity to build an open source automotive OS. The hardware is ubiquitous. Everything under the hood is essentially the same, but just implemented differently.
@TrueGrantsta
@TrueGrantsta Ай бұрын
"the same but implemented differently" is a contradiction. Either either the same or it's different. Even if 2 modules (ABS controls, for example) have the same overall purpose, if the hardware is different, then firmware is different, then inputs & outputs are different... etc. etc. which means you need custom code for the custom combination of custom modules. "Open Source" sounds great when it's just 2 words, probably because people think "Linux is open source and it works great, how hard can it be?" And they don't realize that there's literally thousands of programmers employed or donating their time to constantly update various hardware-specific drivers that are included in Linux. And this is for a product where hardware manufacturers are actually OK with people operating a different OS because it increases their potential customer base. Whereas car manufacturers may buy off-the-shelf modules, they generally get custom-made modules for their unique vehicles, because they're in the business of trying to make a better package than their competitors. And you want them to open-source the trade secrets they invested in their (hopefully) superior modules? What do they get out of helping all their competitors? A feeling of goodwill & respect from 1% of the world which are nerds who actually are interested in tinkering with the code?
@makerKID5
@makerKID5 Ай бұрын
I can't believe Fisker went bankrupt that an amazing car! No issues at all.
@inquizative44
@inquizative44 Ай бұрын
You're gonna get an email from BMW.. 😅
@Out2GetYaWorldAKAMcfly
@Out2GetYaWorldAKAMcfly Ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly!
@crazyidiot5309
@crazyidiot5309 Ай бұрын
Nope. Certified Letter. His signature that it was received is required.
@101src
@101src Ай бұрын
FACTS!!
@masterv2118
@masterv2118 Ай бұрын
BMW wont do a thing...
@Delta132
@Delta132 Ай бұрын
Never expected Salem Techsperts on this channel but also not suprised, nice
@esrandl
@esrandl Ай бұрын
Update! thanks for shout out to FOA. We need more people to actually do the digging on how to fix these vehicles. I have a Fisker, so far so good but I will likely need something eventually. 2.0 came with my car, the recall by NHTSA mandates update to 2.2 by OTA and people are already getting it.. so maybe just wait on 2.2? My car has zero torque steer fyi, maybe somehow your car keeps using "earth mode" which is just FWD only?
@RyCorp77
@RyCorp77 Ай бұрын
22:23 buck converter bucks the voltage down. boost converter boosts the voltage up. Buck-Boost converter kinda geh it can go both ways.
@craigchatterton4164
@craigchatterton4164 Ай бұрын
What's the purpose of it though? They kinda explained in the video but I didn't quite understand. Something about reducing arcing?
@devnol
@devnol Ай бұрын
@@craigchatterton4164 I'm no electrician but from what I could tell it basically puts a voltage on the low end of the contactor (think giant electrical switch/relay) so that when you go and close the circuit the voltage difference is not that big (going from 400v or whatever to 0v, instead going 400 to 255) so that no giant arcs of electricity go through the air and damage the contactor.
@mtx33
@mtx33 Ай бұрын
@@craigchatterton4164 As @devnol stated, in a typical EV system, there are large capacitors inside the motor or charge controller that need to be at least partially pre-charged before connecting the main battery through the contactors. If the capacitors are empty when the contactors close, a huge inrush current will rapidly charge the capacitors (similar to a short circuit), and the resulting arcing could potentially weld the main contactors shut and damaging them. It's a silly way to make expensive paperweight. Think of it like a 'soft starter' for large motors or audio amplifiers.
@craigchatterton4164
@craigchatterton4164 Ай бұрын
​@@mtx33 @devnol Thank you both for answering. That makes sense.
@maxboyer11
@maxboyer11 Ай бұрын
My guess is it takes the output from the solar on the roof to charge the battery
@Jenuin
@Jenuin Ай бұрын
10:45 imagine doing an update on a perfectly working car which costs you 500 bucks and they brick 🧱 your car 😅 then they can’t repair it 😂😂😂😂😂 WoW
@filip000
@filip000 Ай бұрын
Imagine doing an update on a car.
@zavatone
@zavatone Ай бұрын
I save my backup to the previous OS version in iTunes. /s/s/s
@shckltnebay
@shckltnebay Ай бұрын
a perfectly working car, what car you talking about?
@shckltnebay
@shckltnebay Ай бұрын
@@filip000 Imagine living in the 21st century?
@brandonreinhard3858
@brandonreinhard3858 Ай бұрын
5:16 the bmw logo on it has me dead🤣🤣☠️
@DL-RC
@DL-RC Ай бұрын
True that!
@MostDope513
@MostDope513 17 күн бұрын
Best collab i didn't expect this. I want internals of this car in my honda fit. Just make it look like a odyssey please Rich😂
@cerial0411
@cerial0411 Ай бұрын
I absolutely love this series and all the behind the scenes stuff. I am pro EV parts in that it will eventually allow more affordable home power packs and also some affordable hot rod conversions. Touching home packs for under 10k(closer to 30+) is not a thing right now and having it at half that price by getting a "salvaged" EV and removing the pack then using some open source software to convert the pack into a wall only pack seems like something most people would be on board for to save thousands and keep these things out of the trash for several more years. This all being said its hard for my cheap butt to justify paying 50k for what I can pay 5k for. Maybe eventually I will use a EV as a business only car where I can write off things. But I dont see that being justified for at least 12-18 months.
@rgs4x
@rgs4x Ай бұрын
After your last video I went shopping here in California $23-$27 thousand mostly from dealers.
@iknowbob94
@iknowbob94 Ай бұрын
My only black friend!
@thelifeoffuller
@thelifeoffuller Ай бұрын
Rich is white
@Hi-TechHillbilly
@Hi-TechHillbilly Ай бұрын
No... His dad was Dolomite
@Cj94587
@Cj94587 Ай бұрын
@@thelifeoffullerif I was blind I’d believe you lol
@Itsfalcon9
@Itsfalcon9 Ай бұрын
You need an N car then 😅
@jonlee580
@jonlee580 Ай бұрын
Actually.. it should be.. I have a white friend.. I have the white friend pass
@Azeazel.
@Azeazel. Ай бұрын
Holy unexpected crossover episode!! Absolutely love both my different friend groups get together 😂😂
@hypergolic8468
@hypergolic8468 Ай бұрын
It's nice the bolts are exposed (19:50), but in two or three years time, will they be ceased up with all the road grime so bad that getting them out becomes a nightmare? Whilst removing trim is a pain, and you end up with piles of expensive plastics in the corner, it certainly can help having clean bolts / fixtures in the years to come.
@dariuspringle2608
@dariuspringle2608 Ай бұрын
Your EGarage guys are geniuses now in this space. Just listen to you tech talk thru the “Buck” . This could be a Rich moment where you take over the service for this whole FOA fleet. Good for you Rich.
@Rob_Dekker
@Rob_Dekker Ай бұрын
LOL at BMW logos 😂 I love your Fisker adventure, dude. I’d say drive far and make it a risky upgrade, but document every mile, so to speak, since it can be valuable for other Fisker Ocean owners.
@MurderMostFowl
@MurderMostFowl Ай бұрын
KZbin should just look at most of the comments that show up within the first few minutes of posting a new video and track anybody who posts to see if they do the same thing on other videos because I can’t believe the number of bots that are here and YT tells me it has literally been 58 seconds since this video was posted.
@joeterra.t
@joeterra.t Ай бұрын
You need to get laid, asap
@LeapFrog_Radio
@LeapFrog_Radio Ай бұрын
A little hint, the b0ts are fr0m yt itself, this to appear (artificial engagrment) more profitabIe for sh4reholders.
@CaseohsBackflapp
@CaseohsBackflapp Ай бұрын
KZbin is part of it
@WalkiTalki
@WalkiTalki Ай бұрын
It used to be drug sales and now its prostitutes. I don't even let the kids use my account until KZbin gets it figured out. I reported one with a profile pic that looked like a private body part and when I clicked to report it the account page of the pic was that part being used. I am starting to think some of them are actual YT employees clowning YT.
@dingdongdaddy589
@dingdongdaddy589 Ай бұрын
Save your breath and aggravation. KZbin ain’t doing shit.
@elgringiototote
@elgringiototote Ай бұрын
Imagine the being a person who was happy they had paid full price for a fisker ocean, and then wanting a simple update 6 months to 1 year later! 🤣
@jackoats50
@jackoats50 2 күн бұрын
FOR CONTENT: Have a car hauler deliver it to be updated (often surprisingly cheap on multicar trailer). Then maybe drive it back. FOR SAFETY: part it out and scrap it. Stay alive Rich, Don't die for a dead end project.
@peytdav3009
@peytdav3009 Ай бұрын
16:49 man he got really excited talking about that software! Had some hardware in his pants
@RuthBrown-tm2gt
@RuthBrown-tm2gt Ай бұрын
Rich, Fisker is not a manufacturer. Like Nike, they make nothing. The Fisker is built by the Same Canadian company that builds every Mercedes G Wagon. Magna Intl. at their plant in Austria.
@nitrorange
@nitrorange Ай бұрын
BMW Ocean!
@sgtalstrafficticketblog2452
@sgtalstrafficticketblog2452 Ай бұрын
Same difference.
@happymanharp1378
@happymanharp1378 Ай бұрын
it does look damn good for 10k.
@Poepopdestoep
@Poepopdestoep Ай бұрын
It does! Here in the Netherlands they try to sell these cars voor 40k plus secondhand... Don't think anyone is going to fall for that :)
@Supyopie
@Supyopie Ай бұрын
As someone who has an original fisker karma, I am not at all surprised to see you having these issues. Good luck cause 12 years later I still have issues with it.
@mustangdaddy4125
@mustangdaddy4125 Ай бұрын
Talk about headaches involving updates!😮 this makes me appreciate my model S long range 2021 even more!😊Great informative subject 😊
@Zairn12345
@Zairn12345 Ай бұрын
I wore a Rich t shirt into Ace Hardware today (the black Quackbang grenade one) and some older gent who worked there commented on my shirt with enthusiasm. Good times. Glad to see Rich is permeating the hardware stores these days! 😂
@brian5o
@brian5o Ай бұрын
I’m not surprised an Ace Hardware employee would recognize Rich’s shirt. Those guys are rock stars. They are the one hardware store left where you can ask a question about a project and they actually know how to address the issue. I freakin love Ace!
@Zairn12345
@Zairn12345 Ай бұрын
@@brian5o Hell yeah. I always go to ace. Immediately walk in and they’re happy to help you.
@azmax623
@azmax623 Ай бұрын
I wore my Only Vans shirt the other day, and the guy at Firestone recognized it. The shirt only gets recognized about once every six months.
@Zairn12345
@Zairn12345 Ай бұрын
@@azmax623 Rough. I remember when Vans were the shoe to have in the 90s for certain folks.
@steveherr450
@steveherr450 Ай бұрын
Get a quote from carmax and carvana on it. I know for me for the right price it would be gone and they can deal with it.
@stonefist
@stonefist Ай бұрын
usb-c to usb-c cord $80 🤣straight ripoff
@OpticalToxin
@OpticalToxin Ай бұрын
And the tech took it with him 😂
@drevvd
@drevvd Ай бұрын
Apple Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (3 m) = $159.00
@stonefist
@stonefist Ай бұрын
@@drevvd lmao thunderbolt 4 is overkill for a simple software update in a car lol, he aint trying to drive 4k monitors or something
@c0d3_m0nk3y
@c0d3_m0nk3y Ай бұрын
plus $50 hazardous waste fee lol
@OGJeff685
@OGJeff685 Ай бұрын
@@c0d3_m0nk3y really hoping that invoice was a joke.. wtf!!
@davidshettlesworth1442
@davidshettlesworth1442 Ай бұрын
You are an incredible pioneer and warrior of EV ownership. OMG, you have a level of patience with troubleshooting I would never be able to do. The vehicle is like a quirky old truck. Never let your wife or children drive that car. Carry On Sir.
@JohnSanders1091
@JohnSanders1091 Ай бұрын
I think that buck converter is the mppt controller for the solar roof. In the motor trend article on the Fisker ocean, one of the exec’s stated "It is one thing to show a solar roof, it is another to make it work," he says in an interview. "You have to get that energy into a high voltage energy pack. It's a special converter device which we have filed a patent on. I don't know how other people do it because it is not easy to do and really get all the power in."
@JuPac420
@JuPac420 Ай бұрын
16:19 why did bro put a half can of pringles in his pants?😂
@timmy2310
@timmy2310 Ай бұрын
Your video shows why they rightfully went bankrupt. This car should be banned from even being on the road. Respectfully
@l-_-lForkBombl-_-l
@l-_-lForkBombl-_-l Ай бұрын
Rich loves a good Fiskering.
@ashliehiggins
@ashliehiggins Ай бұрын
The build quality is expected to be great as is made by Magna who are one of if not the best contract manufacturer for cars.
@marklaw4396
@marklaw4396 Ай бұрын
THE GREATEST TECHNICIAN THAT EVER LIVED
@mamadou.1759
@mamadou.1759 Ай бұрын
This joke was too nice 🤣🤣🤣 0:06
@paluzigaming7294
@paluzigaming7294 Ай бұрын
Babe wake up, rich rebuilds just dropped
@beatsbyandrew
@beatsbyandrew Ай бұрын
Shouldn’t he have left you that $80 USB-C cable?
@SalemTechsperts
@SalemTechsperts Ай бұрын
It was sentimental to me
@RyanEglitis
@RyanEglitis Ай бұрын
Only an $80 usage fee on a sentimental usb cable is a steal
@abigalanderson7494
@abigalanderson7494 Ай бұрын
His grand pappy brought it back from the war
@vaibhavdlv
@vaibhavdlv Ай бұрын
His granny choked his grandpa when he demanded some pickles with this cable. It's a symbol of feminism!!
@PhilippBorn
@PhilippBorn Ай бұрын
Funny thing is, over the weekend i drove ~1000km (~620miles) on the German highway (basically Nuremberg Berlin). I actually saw more Fiskers than Teslas, lol.
@Imagine.11
@Imagine.11 Ай бұрын
The greatest technician to ever live showed up and fixed it 😂
@tonytony6945
@tonytony6945 Ай бұрын
That was the most legit software update ever😅😅😅
@SalemTechsperts
@SalemTechsperts Ай бұрын
I can’t believe it didn’t stick!
@Doug_Dimmadome
@Doug_Dimmadome Ай бұрын
Paying for a software update is crazy
@JoshsAutoReviews_0424
@JoshsAutoReviews_0424 Ай бұрын
4:42 Yes, NEVER drive the ocean through a machine car wash, it is guaranteed to break, that’s why my dad hand washes his ocean.
@stacymcmahon453
@stacymcmahon453 Ай бұрын
Ocean can't stand water. Awesome!
@richarda3659
@richarda3659 Ай бұрын
Hmm, you'd think with a name like that, it could get wet ...
@Maxdubi
@Maxdubi Ай бұрын
@@stacymcmahon453is the ocean wet when you wash it?
@JOfAllT
@JOfAllT Ай бұрын
@@JoshsAutoReviews_0424 I take mine through touchless car washes (they use extra strong water jets to make up for the lack of brushes) all the time. No issues. Some people hand wash their vehicles because that's the "right" way to wash a car.
@JoshsAutoReviews_0424
@JoshsAutoReviews_0424 Ай бұрын
@@JOfAllT Really? Oceans have bad wiring protection so water often gets into the lights causing them to malfunction, but I guess every car is different.
@Legominder
@Legominder 26 күн бұрын
4:45 The BMW Logos give it kind of a new family now as an orphan
@2packs4sure
@2packs4sure Ай бұрын
I kind of admire a person who can tolerate all the glitches and issues with modern EVs like that ,, you know.... I have 20 year old Fords,, I've never experienced any of that weird stuff and I couldn't handle it if I did...
@leomux2004
@leomux2004 Ай бұрын
Fisker: that's what happens when the founder leaves his wife without experience at the charge of the company. Sheet happens.
@originallynot
@originallynot Ай бұрын
To give credit where it's due, dude had already flopped an automaker once, and decided to pay even less attention to this one than he did to the first, wonderful combination
@ryanlavender2411
@ryanlavender2411 Ай бұрын
He should have stuck with Tesla
@originallynot
@originallynot Ай бұрын
@@ryanlavender2411 Indeed, that LS engine will run forever
@anandamroy4727
@anandamroy4727 Ай бұрын
@16:45 what's in the pocket?
@hmmm1047
@hmmm1047 Ай бұрын
Uhhhh
@MaxCaud
@MaxCaud Ай бұрын
That is Fisker's Karma
@naguoning
@naguoning Ай бұрын
6:24, Rich a pescatarian is someone who eats seafood but not other meat (no red meat, birds etc). I haven't eaten one though so I don't know if they are actually delicious or not.
@HeroRareheart
@HeroRareheart Ай бұрын
You guys did this in a Crosby's Marketplace parking lot? I work for that company, I had no idea the Salem tech guy was like next door.
@SalemTechsperts
@SalemTechsperts Ай бұрын
😂
@wjkssmd
@wjkssmd Ай бұрын
I would add some sort of mechanism to release the bricking mechanism from the back. You might need an emergency release from a charger but then you are stuck. Pull a reset from inside the hood would be a good idea.
@Everything817
@Everything817 Ай бұрын
That invoice.. 🤣
@SalemTechsperts
@SalemTechsperts Ай бұрын
I forgot to charge for a few things…
@Okurka.
@Okurka. Ай бұрын
@@SalemTechsperts Sales tax was a great deal.
@fredfred2363
@fredfred2363 Ай бұрын
Waste disposal charge. Well, d'uh. The old software has to go somewhere.
@BSGSV
@BSGSV Ай бұрын
My old ICE car's technology is sounding superior and moreso every day....tho not as superior as his impressive length and girth at 16:00. I would be scratching it too if I were him.
@SalemTechsperts
@SalemTechsperts Ай бұрын
I need to get baggier pants…
@danielscarbrough4363
@danielscarbrough4363 Ай бұрын
That was funny, especially when you could see the top end of the tube when he stood up! They were gonna see if anyone noticed...LOL crazy fuckers!
@axeavier
@axeavier Ай бұрын
I had to go back to see it, you sure have an eye for men's sausages
@LastRaven215
@LastRaven215 Ай бұрын
This is a huge problem and why I am afraid to get an electric car. Some day, every electric car will no longer be supported and we'll have to "figure it out" ourselves. Whether that day is tomorrow, 5 years from now, 10 years from now... Just like Windows, they'll say, "Hey we stopped supporting your X car. Buy a new one!"
@BSGSV
@BSGSV Ай бұрын
@@LastRaven215 Exactly. That product support approach works for disposable electronics, not an electric vehicle that cost$ high 5 to low 6 figures.
@LookAtMe-C137
@LookAtMe-C137 Ай бұрын
Rich this is why I’m scared to convert my mint 1980 Corolla wagon to EV.
@bigtitmaster
@bigtitmaster Ай бұрын
This isnt a problem with evs, more about shitty companies
@harriettanthony7352
@harriettanthony7352 Ай бұрын
Do not fear a conversion, the shop will do it aright, unless they hired former Fisker workers. All this stupidity is confined to this EV- not the entire EV segment. This writers humble Kia Niro is doing fine after 05 yrs, car washes and winters
@xexas3000
@xexas3000 Ай бұрын
What we need is opensource software and also plug and play parts, IF a controller or a motor ECU fails, we could replace it with a standard unit, like a one solution for "all" cars.
@-Enginerd
@-Enginerd Ай бұрын
I'm betting that boost converter charges the HV battery via the solar. DIYers have been looking for such a solution for a while, but each option is cost prohibitive. I wonder if that crowd will figure out how to repurpose these.
@Millsie18
@Millsie18 Ай бұрын
i feel like you are the black elon thank u belon
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