This Guy Is Relentless

Director + KZbin legend Casey Neistat joins Rich to talk about his unique creative process, the dangers of a society that values influence over creativity, and his new documentary 'Under The Influence'. To read more about Casey and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾bit.ly/richroll715b
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:57 - Catching up with Casey, the Pen Story
00:06:01 - Moving Back to NYC
00:12:28 - Collaborating vs Creating Solo
00:20:52 - Is Casey Still a KZbinr or Filmmaker?
00:27:13 - Ad Break
00:29:05 - Reflecting Back on Casey's Time Vlogging
00:40:09 - State of the Union for the Creator Economy?
00:49:22 - Pulling Away from Social Media, Navigating a Connected World
00:56:36 - Adjusting Back to Life in NYC
01:00:08 - Casey's New Doc, Under the Influence
01:15:14 - Figuring Out Distribution for the Doc
01:17:32 - Advice for Rich's Own YT Channel
01:22:34 - Casey's Closing Thoughts: Patience & Time
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[@DanMace]

Thank you for the kind words Casey my brother!

[@EddyBlock]

He's not your Bru anymore? :P

[@andrewj.clarke1910]

@@EddyBlock lmfaoo

[@dianacirilo]

Are you the guy who had the pen’s job??😂😂😂😂

[@Flyingdingii]

Is that intro ready?

[@joshuamorriss1552]

I miss hearing Casey talk about the process of his film making and what inspires him. This was a fantastic interview that captured his creative side so well.

[@ColinandSamir]

Love this Rich. Great interview

[@JakeMcCollum]

Agreed

[@tcipodcast]

Hope to have you on my podcast

[@justdadthings_]

@@JakeMcCollum hey jake, hope all is well!

[@officialcalvinwayman]

Agreed. Great interview

[@EricBeatty]

This was fantastic. And yes, please have Colin & Samir on.

[@creator_yo]

Casey’s commitment to the pursuit of interestingness is by far the best education I received as an aspired video creator. Him being so down to earth is what I appreciate the most when I listen to his story. Great to see him back in NYC.

[@thewanderingcouchs]

I can't say how much both of you have inspired me to be a better version of myself in this crazy world. It is great to see both of you on this podcase. Keep up the good work.

[@ranplan]

I’ve watched all of the Rich/Casey convos. Something about this one helped me more. Maybe because I’m exactly like him in the way that I have to work alone and my environment matters so much. It was motivating to hear him talk about “I just need my computer and my camera, and I’ll sit there and edit it alone, and I’ll hit upload, then I’ll close my laptop and go for a run, and maybe I’ll look at the numbers later or tomorrow, and I don’t need praise for my work or validation.” Good reminders. Thank you both.

[@popfoa]

Funny how those who’ve visited the peak of a mountain (both proverbial or real) always reflect on the importance of patience - amazing conversation. Worth a rewatch!

[@jcnlaw]

I ran into Casey in NYC. He was extremely nice. After meeting him, I was inspired to start my own KZbin channel which now has thousands of subscribers. Thanks for the creative inspiration Casey.

[@dylantimoff]

me too! He is so humble and it made me realize how as a successful person, you can still be nice and respect others. I also asked him to capture this moment as it meant a lot to me, and he was really chill about it. To this day, I look at the photo at inspire myself to create.

[@lucasmontero1432]

You’re the best Rich, saw you for the first time a few months ago.. you’re a wonderful human with such profound insights, incredible to see what you have done with these interviews

[@luischalasnyc9657]

Great podcast! To sum up it’s the line between not shitting on people and have something to talk without having the World up in your face. The ability to blend in with everyone at the end of the day. Thank you again guys for the video.

[@fpvlegion]

Interesting seeing Casey with no filters or edits... the true raw talk, a side we dont usually see, loved it!

[@nicee_guys]

One of the most valuable interviews that I've heard/watch with Casey.

[@evosportychop8332]

I love the humility in Casey saying how it is a luxury to be able to move the family across the country, then back a few years later.

[@gracie99999]

seems like such a cool guy

[@juice6521]

Didn't he fire his assistant because they didn't burn the rope on some cheap dollar store pens?

[@AmericanHuskyCash]

I absolutely love Casey. His love for creativity and the art of being genuine. These 2 things are the reason people are so glued to his content. Nothing to do with quality or story arch’s. Being a creative and genuine person is the rare feat that these people like Casey and Joe Rogan have in common and no one ever talks about it.

[@erichly]

These two - Rich and Casey, both self made, imperfect icons, role models and mentors who for me, keep things grounded in todays hypermedia 🙏 thankful for this chat

[@vonwolfersdorff]

👏 I love this, my two all-time favourite inspirations for running & vlogging together on KZbin! Thanks Rich and Casey!

[@thequantartist]

A lot of people delegate aspects of their videos to others, but Casey does everything. Casey is the GOAT of KZbin.

[@ILUVHINGHAM]

I think this is the only podcast me and my adhd self gas ever been able to sit thru I love this, Casey is gold

[@SoloAlfonso]

Thsnk you so much for this conversation, i love to hear this, you're such a big creators and humble guys it been so helpful, thanks again 🙌🏼

[@dannyschleicher]

I learned so much from you and from Casey over the years. Love this episode. Thank you for great questions and great insights into your great minds!

[@Ellie_fi]

This conversation was captivating beginning to end. Thank you!

[@BizzyBoom]

This was such a great conversation! Really opened my mind to different perspectives and approaches to creativity as a whole in this new age!! thanks for this! ❤🙏

[@harrisonjwhite]

I've seen a lot of Podcasts with Casey that seem to be pretty redundant in questioning, but this is very unique compared to all his other interviews. Thank's for asking all the right questions!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thanks a ton Rich and Casey... He is probably the single biggest influence on my KZbin career. I love when he talks about time and patience not being sexy...

[@EnricoPozzo]

The only thing better than watching a video from one of my favorite people on KZbin is watching a video from two of my favorite people on KZbin! Thank you for this. As an aspiring creator this gave me the food for thought I needed.

[@veredgutriech5732]

Never saw the KZbin video’s but I really liked the fellow few minutes into the conversation ! Authentic and inspiring conversation, thank you 🙏

[@BakerWild]

Casey is honest, blunt and fascinating to listen to. A great interview

[@Pesphoto]

Thank you so much Rich and Casey, both of you are inspiring men doing a beautiful work full-filling your purpose. Only with that you give to us all, All the best.

[@brianedelstein1271]

Convo at around 18:00 reminds me of my employer, a "3PL" - third party logistics provider - that gives customers the freedom to focus on CORE COMPETENCY - the things they do best. Our customer at my location outsources multiple services, from cleaning to security to logistics, because they trust us to do what we do well... so they can devote energy and resources to their products. Tremendous amount of trust extended to us... and we all thrive through robust and honest communication.

[@nicopaolo]

I’ve been watching Casey’s interviews over the past week so it feels very serendipitous that this one dropped now. I was so excited to see it was with Rich, I’m not sure why but Casey has done a lot of interviews with people that are really not great interviewers I’m really happy to have seen this one where thoughtful questions were asked of a person who has a lot of thoughtful answers to give 🙏🏼

[@Pesphoto]

I think the same! Glad it appeared on my feed.

[@mzamudio]

I loved the Digital Spaghetti one

[@sonojooof]

Feel like there are so many things I wanna say after learning from and getting know about Casey, but when time comes to typing my words down, all I want is to say: Thank You , Casey. Sincerely ❤.

[@mightbefire]

Such a nice surprise to see you interview Casey. Didn't know he was back in NYC. Glad to hear it. Hoping for a Roll On maybe this week??? Maybe??

[@Dennis-de1ji]

Listening to Casey on podcasts is like when you get to see the teachers/ mentors you held on high regard from up close, as humen you travel together on the same road.

[@lovelyholistic]

This was an incredible conversation that landed for me at the exact perfect moment. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[@Aziz32ing]

great episode, feels like very much like a casual conversation between friends instead of an 'episode of a podcast'

[@MARKO-ls2kt]

YES! thank you for this one Rich! Love Casey nature of high energy on screen!

[@cchilds99]

Casey is such an inspiration. This interview was masterfully guided and you asked fantastic questions, Rich!

[@amberbiggs]

This was very inspiring. Lots of big takeaways, and for where I'm at right now, patience is a particularIy big one. Thank you

[@giulianogirelli]

casey always brings everything back to where the true meaning of things is, great intellectual honesty. great source of inspiration

[@SeekersofUnity]

Fabulous interview. Much truth needed for the present moment. Thank you Rich.

[@UltimateKettle]

god im so excited, two of my favourite people! perfect background while i do my assignments

[@Klaude]

Thanks so much for the thoughtful interview Rich! I rly love Casey’s vibrant vlogs❤

[@jahninapamintuan1849]

You have the best guests! I love the subtle differences in the beginning of the video!

[@EmmaLouisa]

This is so great. I’ll now go back and watch the other interviews with Casey but I really enjoy the pod. Glad to hear the bit about the SXSW interview. I had thought that when I was watching so glad to hear that’s why it’s so weird. Hoping I can see it someday, I’m really interested in how judgement plays into it 😄

[@125concordfili14]

I WOULD LISTEN TO HOURS UPON HOURS OF THESE TWO , WELL DONE MR. ROLL!

[@CliMzOuu]

This is pure gold ! You guys can't imagine the positive influence and impact you have on so many people, thanks for all your hard work !

[@r.derringer6426]

HA! and you can't imagine the NEGATIVE impact this guy has had either.... glad you succeeded.... 2 of my buddies died because of his advice...

[@carrieolson3352]

Agreed! Change agents....

[@barsam2a]

@@r.derringer6426 ... what has happened?

[@issamo868]

Ive been trying to watch the doc for a while... CMON

[@luismedina5680]

Rich!!! what a great interview, thanks for that!!! I love it.

[@bretstevens262]

Great podcast RRP! Love Casey and his brother Van!

[@PatrickDelorenzi]

Great pod guys, thank you 🙏

[@uncertifiedcreative6079]

WHAAAAAATTTT??!! MY Idol as a guest on my favourite podcast??!!!! I can't wait for this evening to come and watch 2 of my favourite human beings in conversation together.. Thank you guys!!!

[@AmericanHuskyCash]

“It takes time” Patience! “I GOT TO GO!” Got to love Casey 😂

[@BrianDeCosta]

The convo starting at 42:30 is so true about creativity. It makes me sad. It's refreshing to hear others feel this way though

[@claudieharris9046]

Very enjoyable interview. Lots of great wisdom !!

[@MichaelLinde]

Superb podcast and amazing input from Casey. Really would love to see that documentary “Under the Influence”.

[@Crazydragonman]

Amazing guy, a great inspiration for me in hard times that kept me going.

[@sircookson]

Your podcast setup is awesome. Your camera angles are great, it gives me “Hot ones” vibes!

[@AbdallahBotan]

Thank you Rich Roll for hosting Casey Niestat. Great creator I love his work.

[@peter.nguyen]

Love seeing this side of Casey, thanks for this Rich.

[@jacobvan_]

Outstanding interview and a must watch for all aspiring creators!

[@jaredcwhite]

To this very moment, I don't know that I can count on more than one hand the number of KZbinrs I've seen who have elevated "vlogging" to an art form the way Casey has. This interview is wonderful because he himself has come to realize the act of solo shooting, editing, and uploading a video *is* the art. That's it. You can't deconstruct it or outsource it without it loosing its essence. And that essence is what I aspire to as well. No, I'm not trying to copy Casey when I work on vlogs, that would be absurd! But in my own little way, I too can see it as art and care *deeply* about it, the way Casey cares about his art. And maybe-some day long into the future-actually get a tiny bit good at it. ;P

[@jeffr2918]

Hey RIch amazing interview! Thanks as well guys for pimping my vocab with at least 20 new words!

[@IvicaOS]

such a great pod…💯👊🏻🙏🏻❤️

[@asweetiepiebtw2032]

everyone wants to be big on yt! Casey is a true artist. he makes what he wants and moves on to the next. this is why he is so generous. he does not look back. he is too occupied w his life and what he does each day. i find this refreshing and liberating. Go Casey! when i saw him snow board thru NYC i thought this guy is best. he is having F U N Casey is a B I G artist. a granny here. Rich you aint so bad ! * been subscribed for years * but if it werent for Casey i would not have wondered inta YTLAND. also i just cannot be a healthy human w/out red meat. it saved my life literally. Thank YOU for all the conversations xxoo

[@trailrunningexperience496]

My current echo chamber kings. Great to see Casey back in the uploading game.

[@BahramQ]

I love Casey Neistat. He's always reminded me a little of Willy Wonka... that obsessive, genius, mastermind, artistic, creative individual that defies all odds placed against him. Great interview!

[@sean640]

Casey knows his work is physically celebrated we see it every blog someone takes a selfie with him 😂

[@philvfilms]

my two favourite people together, amazing. Well done ! One thing, you could future proof the videos shooting and upload in 4k perhaps?

[@bmxbanditdude]

Great interview. Casey, thank you for the reminder about patience. Do it because you want to and you love it. Cheers. Hello from Melbourne Australia 🤙

[@rosekustner6669]

The 4 colors bic is literally the pen that every French student has and write with. We have this and a fountain pen and that’s it haha

[@NadinaRama]

What a gift! 2 of the kindest people sitting together 💓

[@drewe9514]

🎉

[@JistChillin]

Casey is a legend! Nothing but facts were spoken

[@Valmentaja]

Thank you for an excellent interview 💎

[@ashrkvch]

1:20:53 Main punch from Casey, thank you for leaving it in this podcast, Rich 😂

[@DanielBasulto]

This was an amazing interview!

[@kathyhoyer4586]

Really interesting interview! Great talk!

[@JamesGWall]

Just got the end of the 'Creator Economy' section, and Casey speaks so much sense. I'm thoroughly bored of titles like "This is why you need this..." or "Your Videos Will Get More Views By Doing this...". And there's channels dedicated to maximising this kind of work. It feels like where currently stuck at looking at metrics instead of making sure we're making something good. The actual advice I'm seeing at the moment is: Come Up With A Catchy Title and then Make The Thumbnail, before you even make the video. I get packaging is important, and I'm definitely guilty for falling for this advice. My new mantra is: What Would Casey Do?

[@darrisnelson5223]

His bike lane and bicycle theft videos are classic Casey…if I’m ever feeling down I go to his bike lane video.😂 WE LOVE YOU CASEY!!💜💜

[@gracie99999]

aahhh 💜funny u mention this, just recently was sitting in a coffee shop when I hear my neighbor say”mother ducker!”.... then run out and basically body slam the dude taking off wit bike! it was so exciting🙏😍

[@dhrumilprajapati77]

Great to see you both great

[@deantopping2353]

Thanks for sharing your story...

[@kieranmoss1501]

I think this entire podcast encapsulates everything Casey had worked hard for and the way he explains his process just brings everything together and is just so inspiring to listen to. Fantastic job Rich.

[@HollyHargreaves]

Rich is a GREAT interviewer.

[@BengineerTube]

@casey I have probably 100+ videos of unlisted videos shared with specific people. I don't know about you but my mind thinks in pictures and movies and I create these memories so I can bring what I see to life to share those moments with others. This, more than anything is what drives my love of photography and video. There is also the peace in knowing it will be an archive of your life for your children, grandchildren, etc

[@rogeryouncecreations]

Great interview!

[@mrchops]

The intro was phenomenal, so well made!

[@hermyt]

Great discussions.

[@radoslawmroz9729]

Great work guys

[@Wil_Dasovich]

Solid

[@marleyxl8959]

Ah yes Casey, the inventor of Mewing

[@matheus.santos]

Thanks Rich! Amazing!!

[@matthiassventoest6800]

Great interview

[@KateKosmo]

Everyone talked about it but there's no way to watch it! 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️ He needs to release it somewhere so we can watch it!

[@UppiliVentures]

Some great alpha here always good listening to the authenticity of Casey - a true unique artist

[@itsjamesrush]

Solid convo!

[@ramboandjoann]

Thanks Rich for having Casey here.. again 😊 -R

[@ZacharyKlassen]

great episode !

[@bensanelab6997]

love this !

[@cameronlogan2768]

There will always be people who go to the extreme to get known.. Having said that, we will always seek quality after we have grown tired of the monotony of quantity..

[@slumpplum2376]

Casey is so smart about not releasing the movie on KZbin to create distance from his KZbin Chanel. I think if he released it on KZbin it would overtake his identity on yt.

[@YyNRCyY]

He only uploads couple times a year recently. Also, movie hasn’t come out yet no idea what’s going on wit it

[@BillPrapat]

One of the most inspiring person in the world