The TERMINIDS Internal Biology and Lore In Helldivers 2 Explained

Lets be real, the amount of lore out there on this game, is quite few and far between. Because of that, we are going back to basics baby! The Terminid is an form of alien species liken to an insect on Earth with some start differences. While highly intelligent, they are also larger in stature and what we could expect an atmosphere of standard oxygen amounts to support concerning humans. So the question is why this? Well lets discuss that in todays episode!
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[@RoanokeGaming]

Thanks for watching guys! as you know, theres like barely any lore to this game so we have to go into context clues lol hope yall enjoy! If you would like to support the channel, check out the merch! www.roanokemerch.com

[@derrickhenry2212]

Man I love your stuff. You’ve been getting me through traffic laden drives in Houston for years now. Let’s let the bugs know we got that dawg in us for DEMOCRACY 🫡 Now……..I have to report you for re-education…😅

[@Tallas_the_Raider]

It shows your effort, man. I'll make damn sure to show all my helldiver buddies this video! Thanks for finding the lore.

[@PabloHernandez-gl5ij]

Ah yes the starship trooper vibes from helldivers and helldivers 2 is strong with this video.😏

[@SlothinAintEasy]

Hey Roanoke. Y’all got a discord? Might be cool to play this game with other subscribers.

[@Forsak3nBreed1982]

Just call them tyrranids bro. you know you want to.

[@wyrdplae8586]

Fun fact: The bug oil being called element 710 is a nod to an old car parts joke. People would come into the shop asking for "710 oil" because on their oil cap it said 710. They unfortunately didn't realise that 710 is just OIL upsidedown.

[@josephcraft5343]

😱

[@juskdecisive5301]

Thats great lmaoo

[@robonator2945]

given 710, I'm inclined to believe the bugs might not have any circulatory system at all. Humans process crude oil to create gasoline to power cars; we put gasoline in trucks and cars to setup pumps that pull the raw resource out of the ground, we bring it to heavy industry that processes it into a hyper-energy-dense form, we put that gasoline into trucks and cars to setup pumps that pull the raw resource out of the ground. If 710 is as energy dense as we're led to believe, the drones and guards that we fight might not 'eat' or 'breathe' much at all, since they might just use 710 as 'fuel' that just sorta moves through their cells via osmosis or other extremely slow "it'll get there eventually" processes. If the workers/drones just collect food/resources, bring it back to the hive, some other bug higher in the caste system processes it and turns it into 710, the workers/drones 'eat' that and run off of 710, it'd explain a lot of what we see. For instance, we know they don't have a closed circulatory system because you can blow off any part of them (even the head) and they'll be fine, unlike a human or any other animal which will very rather quickly bleed out. (they could have some instant-cauterization thing going on, but frankly that just seems a bit of a jump) We can reasonably infer they don't have any central processing organ like a brain since we can blow off their heads and they'll still be fine. (granted maybe they have some internal brain or something, it seems unlikely but I can't imagine any reason why it'd actually be impossible) We also know they reproduce rapidly and can sustain insanely large populations despite having no clear industry or technology. We also know they must have some extremely potent way of powering their bodies since, well, they get fucking massive. We also know they are hive-based insects with clear subspecies and a caste system. We also know they, for some reason, produce a substance with an energy density so high it can power space ships. So, putting the pieces together, it seems fairly obvious *_why_* they're producing 710. If they have a specialized sub-species that lives to produce 710 with it's hyper-energy-density than the workers/drones wouldn't actually need a 'circulatory system' as we think about it. A circulatory system is necessary for us because metabolism needs to be happening *_constantly_* and needs constant reoxygenation to occur, but if our bodies ran off of a substance energy dense enough to drive space ships, would we *_need_* to actively circulate it around? No, probably not - you're body would use so little of it that you just wouldn't need to actively push it around, so long as it got everywhere eventually, you'd be fine. So, you wouldn't need any circulatory system at all, I could poke holes in you, blow off limbs, etc. and you would never bleed out because, what blood? (well, I mean they probably would have some form of 'blood', but it just wouldn't be moving around all that much and certainly wouldn't be pressurized with a 4-chamber 2-stage organic pump that pushes it around constantly, including out of your own body.)

[@shaylethorne2387]

Feels like asking for 1d10t spray....

[@wyrdplae8586]

Haha took me a while to get that one. Nice.

[@Thenuclearplan]

"To fight the bug we must first understand the bug"

[@dontworrybout2664]

I understand democrats just fine

[@Bugman541]

@@dontworrybout2664 (you dont understand much of anything, i can fucking guarantee it)

[@Mischievous_Moth]

@@Bugman541 idk man, that username of yours is kinda sus. (Seriously though, there was no need for that chud to try and make this political. Aren't they the ones always bitching about us "making everything political"?🙄)

[@TheLiamis]

Treason. There is no understanding, only destroying. For super earth and liberty.

[@farkbett699]

​@@Bugman541 *has bug in their name*

[@greywolf_2615]

The idea of Homo sapiens being far more aggressive to the bugs than they were to us upon first contact due to the fundamental nature of how both species got to the top of their respective food chains is fascinating. Also amazing video of 10/10 would watch again.

[@Glassesman-uy7jm]

didnt understnad wtf this comment meant until i smoked a lot of weed and watched 5:54 and U N D E R S T O O D

[@memener8020]

​@@Glassesman-uy7jmwhat does he mean , I don't have weed to figure it out .

[@Glassesman-uy7jm]

@@memener8020 basically talking about how originally the bugs evolved on a planet that didn’t have nearly as large of animal threats as humans do here on earth. So at first the bugs weren’t aggressive unlike the humans, and that’s because of the environments they evolved in.

[@giantfan5872]

“So why are we fighting in the western sector my representative?” Super Earth PR: “Back when civilization began, in 2084”

[@johntaylor7029]

Oh no, is Raonoke the illegal broadcast that we have been shutting down? He hates the bugs though, and is a creek veteran; he'll be fine in Mega Superior Court.

[@harryrundle7897]

Super Supreme Court

[@MidnightDrake]

Super Equal Court, because we're all equal on Super Earth. Some people are just more equal-er than others.

[@MrPikaGammer]

​@@MidnightDrakewe're all equal... Except for Officers, they ARE better than us after all.

[@johntaylor7029]

Well, I mean, Super Supreme Court is only if Roanoke's case is determined to be super-constitutional by the appellate system.

[@codyraugh6599]

​@@johntaylor7029but if he's SEAF then it's a Tribunal...

[@shaunbrender]

Finally. The combination of the two best things ever. Biology and killing aliens.

[@LuisRomeroLopez]

Humans #1!

[@fatalisblack7213]

I have a feeling you're the kind of person who enjoys "liking to know more."

[@someretardontheinternet]

​@@fatalisblack7213I mean, wouldn't you like to know more?

[@walrusArmageddon]

​@@fatalisblack7213I'M DOING MY PART!

[@CBRN-115]

WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?

[@DakkaSap]

The bugs adapting to conditions by becoming less intelligent and hyperaggresive makes a lot of sense, and also that the illuminate are the shadowy hand orchestrating the 2 fronts against super earth, great video

[@Cooldude-ko7ps]

19:15 one thing to consider is the possibility of there being multiple queens. Like how ant supercolonies can have multiple queens.

[@zen_tewmbs]

I will also point out that real life Queens are not the “leaders” of the colony. There are no leaders - ant colonies function as a single super organism with each individual acting as a “cell”.

[@hoshyro]

Regarding your point on a supposed queen, in the first Helldivers you can occasionally find and hunt down enormous bugs called "hive lords" who are basically the ones that dig the main galleries of the bug nests and can, I quote, "bore out the entire crust of a planet if left unchecked", these guys were probably the closest thing we know of to a queen, we don't know if they're still around

[@kyze8284]

Is it scary to think the lords are just AVERAGE workers and aren’t even full on soldiers for the Terminids, hollowing out nest areas? We’d basically be fighting just the fleas/parasites for the actual terminids. I do usually equate the little swarmers look with fleas anyway

[@ymustitho6343]

Head cannon: the hive lords were just building nests to attract mates. It would be cool though if the universe can be deepened and widened in story and in interaction

[@helsingS_]

You can find hive lord remains on certain terminid planets

[@hoshyro]

@@helsingS_ yep I spotted a few so far! Though they appear to be juveniles, they're way too small to be adults

[@helsingS_]

@@hoshyro yeah my friends have been sharing what they find since I'm the lore master of the friend group but I haven't been able to play helldivers yet since I'm in the Xbox reserves

[@ChavaM88]

Just to build on the Carbon based life form argument from Roanoke, he is right that they are. On escort missions where you help citizens go from one building to another, they are NOT wearing helmets or breathing aperatises which means the air is good enough for both Termanids and Humans to breath in and live with.

[@qwerty81808]

Breathing oxygen doesn’t imply carbon based life. In fact, oxygen almost wiped out all carbon based life (so all life) on earth during the Oxygen Catastrophe

[@ChavaM88]

@@qwerty81808 very true. I don't know if they are carbon based or not, I am only trying to add to his argument based on the fact that humans are able to breath and live with similar conditions to termanids who aren't dying of oxygen poisoning.

[@winstonlewis5630]

@@qwerty81808yes because oxygen levels were much higher then they are now. He also explains that in the video.

[@qwerty81808]

@@winstonlewis5630 that’s not true. It’s because oxygen was new to the environment and it was poisonous to essentially all existing life at the time. It was only after that event that life evolved to use oxygen at all

[@jeremymoses7401]

The Great Oxidation event 2.7 billion years ago..... thank you algea

[@Wulk]

0:28 In the words of the god emperor of humanity "Life didn't give us lemons we invented them all by ourselves" Meaning humanity has created all the problems that humanity has

[@lgngrbr588]

In the words of Cave Johnson, "I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons!"

[@randallbesch2424]

@idontcare-ct7jm The biome and our evolution in it counts for all of it. Though we do owe the planet its due from us to continue.

[@KraNisOG]

"Once the Automatons get to Cyberstan" The Automatons are not reaching that anytime soon. Also, the automatons are harvesting humans, you can check out dumpsters of human parts where the human heads are all stiched, implying that they either took the human brain out, or needed to torture them. Either Automatons need human parts for their effort, or they're a faction that requires 0 sympathy as they are just sadists. Also, the game released armor that resists Arc Damage by 95%, implying that we'll need it. Wish they'd make capes and helmets have passive effects, doesn't make any logical sense why a cape isn't flame retardent, or why some helmets won't be equiped with better breathing apparatus' for increased stamina regen, or scanners to help see in dense fog. Especially since humanity won the war and took all the tech from the Illumante.

[@dbio305]

I believe it's likely a recruitment effort. they take humans

[@superboss3758]

Joel would beg to differ

[@bensowle]

Me democratic brain no work anymore

[@zenoblues7787]

It's implied that prior to the war, all that technology was used to genetically enhance the Bugs into Termanids. Now, super earth is panicking and making anything and everything. That's why technology is developing in the course of weeks or days. They already have technology they've just now started using it to make stuff. That's also why they are testing them in the middle of the war no time for laboratory tests. We need these things now.

[@Xezian]

we know the automatons aren't all mechanical and machine, all of them, even their tanks, have exposed skulls that are a weak spot. Since they are descendants of the cyborgs, it can be assumed that their skulls are a weak spot because they still use their brains and haven't switched over to processors. Also their oil is a little bit too red to just be oil. Likely they extract human skulls, brainwash them, or somehow basically flash a different consciousness into the brain, and integrate them into the machines.

[@Theology.101]

in before “bile titans are small on their home planet”

[@beaks321]

Akin to Subnautica's "only a juvenile" narrative.

[@The-Ent1ty]

There was "starting with the feet"

[@schrodingerskatze6487]

What?!?

[@trenchgaming2166]

​@schrodingerskatze6487 in the first Hell divers there's even bigger bugs called Hive lords and they make bile titans look tiny

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

I'm sorry...there are bigger bugs?

[@itisluna4782]

A bit of lore about the automatons, one of the crew members on the ship in HD2 will say that the cyborgs are in a mining "re-education camp" on Cyberstan, and its theorized that the automatons are moving there to free them. It is only speculation if the automatons were made by the cyborgs, but it is very likely. The automatons however are confirmed to be entirely inorganic, and not an evolution of the Cyborgs.

[@trolly4233]

It should be known that the automatons seem to have human intelligence and often the civilian corpses in their outpost cages are missing their heads…

[@cjrecio5702]

The Cyborgs are considered them as "children" It was said in a encoded message posted by the Helldivers 1 account in 2021.

[@DrowsyLemon]

@@trolly4233 The chainsaw robots also love wearing skulls, so they're probably the culprit.

[@axios4702]

​@@DrowsyLemon This, I don't think they have human brains as some people have theorised, but a lot of them adorn themselves with skull trophies.

[@nomar611]

in helldivers 1 you can fight enemies called hivelords responsible for creating the vast underground terminid nest structures, and potential propagating them ( though after the brood commander's presence and activity it is possible command of Terminids or at least coordination is not top down with myriad 'sub command' bugs or 'nobility' if using the queen analogy ). you can actually see the lithofied remains of Terminid Hivelord exoskeletons on numerous bug maps, particualrly around large hive structures ( egg hunt missions will likely help you find them the most ) though whether hivelords have been exterminated decapitating the bug threat or if they've merely been evolved out over the last century is unclear. another thing of note is the unarmored spewers are called nursing spewers ( text learned from dying to them ) and are often accompanied by numerous smaller bugs which could hint at decentralized reproduction - particularly with surface borne egg clusters. i believe yellow crazy ants and some species of fire ant (and in theory trapjaw ants ) engage in a somewhat similar behavior with decentralized numerous reproducers. my one big thing i'd love to see you analyze Roanoke is the similarity of helldivers 1 bugs ( the game has an enemy bestiary which can help ) to earth crustaceans - the hivelord resembled a bobbit worm !- and the potential evolutionary implications of then and now. as someone whose been digging into helldivers lore since the first game i'd love to talk more on the topic ! as while the sources and evidence is scarce it is still there ! fun fact : chargers and scavengers have the same body plan and even similar mannerisms implying scavengers may be a larval or fry state of life for the charger !

[@isatoyuy]

"Burn the Heretic! Kill the Mutant! Purge the Unclean! In the name of the emperor, let none survive!"

[@Wash-tq7ed]

REMEMBER TROOPERS, KNOW YOUR ENEMY! THAT WAY YOU CAN SQUASH THEM FASTER! FOR SUPER EARTH!!!!

[@darthchungus9964]

"For The Empe"wait wrong universe

[@dwarvenjesus4266]

WE MUST RETAKE MALEVOLON RIVER. FOR DEMOCRACY!

[@twilightgardenspresentatio6384]

C’mon Apes!! You wanna live forever?!

[@kyze8284]

THE ENEMY ROBOTS CANNOT PUSH A BUTTON IF YOU DISABLE THEIR HAND!

[@stillwinslowthecatjustwith8310]

FOR SUPER EARTH!!! FOR DEMOCRACY!!!

[@andrebenjamun1022]

“I didn’t see you on Malevelon Creek” is my new insult to confuse people 😂😂

[@helloyes2288]

How many Malevelon Creek vets does it take to screw in a lightbulb? You wouldn't know, you weren't there.

[@thomaspo8229]

Also: If you remember Malevelon Creek, you weren't there.

[@jacsonf1341]

I've been there but I made sure I didn't get Schizophrenia

[@PositivelyPixelated]

I'm actually a little bummed that I didn't get to experience this full-on. Lol I'm not even sure I've gone to it now, but I hear it's been toned down some. I don't get to claim any PTSD. 😂

[@Popeyethesailorsman]

@@PositivelyPixelated the creek the first couple weeks after launch was honestly a surreal experience

[@RicardoGonzalez-fb9li]

I friggin' love your videos. Movies I haven't seen...TV shows I haven't followed...games I haven't played...you make them all interesting and come alive by taking a road nobody else travels. I dig your schtick. Keep it up!

[@SpriteDoge]

You haven't played Helldivers? Well pick up your liberator and get shooting soldier, those Terminids won't blast themselves!

[@xactly8211]

The civilians we rescue on planets dont have a helmet on, only a cap, this confirms your atmosphere theory

[@ridleydidnothingwrong]

A bit more context on the first contact part. Super earth didnt know they produced oil until we were already knee deep in dead bugs. They initially wanted their planets using the justification that they'd mindlessly expand even to our colonies if we didn't stop them. These planets they were on were rich in oil and we didn't know the bugs were responsible for it until we started blasting them back to their homeworld. The only reason we didn't wipe them out completely was because they produced the oil. The bugs were found on multiple planets when we made first contact with them so they got their own way of traveling from system to system.

[@Banished-rx4ol]

Later on though its just the bugs escaping farms as shown by the propaganda towers

[@cringejoestar9791]

​@Banished-rx4ol "as shown by the propaganda towers" I mean I know it's an intentionally silly game, but still c'mon lmao

[@Banished-rx4ol]

@@cringejoestar9791 Thats what they’re called, its an objective you destroy. It usually says that the terminids broke out not invaded. Its over the top political satire yes and it is silly but its still political. Wait until we get the 3rd faction that keeps being hinted at called the illuminate which are a more technologically advanced blue species that were originally friendly to humanity until super earth falsely accused them of harboring planet destroying weapons of mass destruction. I’m not even joking thats the lore and its ridiculously on the nose

[@megabuilder15]

@@cringejoestar9791what do you mean? The propaganda towers you’re asked to destroy have a bunch of interesting videos projected on them.

[@themaxterz0169]

How did the bugs travel from planet to planet though

[@jacksmith8299]

Implying that Super Earth’s problems are its own fault will get you sent straight to a Freedom Camp

[@soapgaming4903]

As they should

[@BodenCarlson]

LMFAO A FREEDOM CAMP 😂

[@user-pw7ox6wl6o]

You've been reported to the appropriate democracy management authority ​@@BodenCarlson

[@user-pw7ox6wl6o]

​@@soapgaming4903exactly. GLORY TO SUPER EARTH

[@selahsabali]

TREASON!!

[@thomasraymond7912]

Bro I can't believe Roanoke and I chose the same ship name, patriot of patriotism for the win.

[@geronimo5537]

The fastest Roanoke video I have ever seen released. The pleasure is all mine.

[@wither5673]

''Do the terminids feel pain?'' me: God I fucking *HOPE SO*

[@codyraugh6599]

They always seem so immune to pain, but no. Look into its eyes brother, do you see? Spare it, its life is measured in moments, let it die here, writing in this pain.

[@weldonwin]

@@codyraugh6599 Wait? They have eyes? I never noticed if most of them have eyes, I'm frequently trying to keep them far back enough that I can't see their eyes, much less look into them

[@lord_inquisitor_flietch]

​@@codyraugh6599 Grimaldus???

[@g80gzt]

They definitely do. Chargers limping, grunting in pain, all of their pain response sounds.

[@krystalneko4094]

​@@weldonwinnah none of them have eyes, idk if that actually translates to gameplay line of sight at all but literally none of them have eyes, best they have is antenna and the antenna aren't standardized either. I used to think they were just really well hidden under layers of armor so i was shocked when i analyzed their models.

[@Yavorh55]

Proof that all atmospheres in-game are breathable - all planets have a Civvie rescue mission. On these missions they always are completely helmetless and with no rebreather

[@pyerack]

That and I think we also have to consider how few planets these are on the map. I think they're the only planets we found that, while a tad hostile, are actually livable and it's why they're prioritized.

[@andrewyoung8550]

Yeah it’s like what 2-3 planets for an entire sector of galaxy. Probably only ones with a breathable atmosphere in that entire area

[@SP00KYM4NH3R3]

Don't forget that Helldivers can also die to orbital gas strike, this wouldn't happen if they didn't breathe the surrounding air

[@stryker0ae]

​@@SP00KYM4NH3R3 exactly. Another point is that on many planets you'll find random dead civilians like out in the jungle. Showing that they were running around out there when shit hit the fan. And they don't have helmets or o2 tanks or anything

[@TheChrush3r]

fenrir II (i think) is basically a actual moon-like planet, meaning no athmosphere in this case fauna does exist on it somehow but when its star lights up its surface theres basically only dust in the air, and you can see the stars clearly which means no particles/air molecules blocking/distorting your sight :I

[@ownagemester]

Ive always thought the idea of "Super Earth" was that its meant to represent the idea that all of the surrounding planets around are also "Earth", like humanity claimed those planets to make them apart of Super Earth symbolically.

[@TheXXIIIrdVet]

Great video!! I perused the rest of your uploads. Although it seems that I do not personally share your passion for body horror, I am impressed by your attention to detail, extensive research, applied science, and deductive reasoning! I would absolutely Subscribe to see more videos of Helldivers lore, races, and history. Keep up the good work, Sir!

[@Aj-om9nm]

If the bugs dont want to be killed then why are they made of oil?

[@jaidusjones6844]

😭

[@user-pw7ox6wl6o]

SPILL OIL 😎🦅👍❤️🙏. GLORY TO SUPER EARTH

[@10_1_25_TSLR]

You mean element 710? I haven't heard of oil

[@10_1_25_TSLR]

@idontcare-ct7jm I know I was also joking heh

[@Rurik_Luci]

My experience in Helldivers 2: Get *ALL* the bugs to chase me. Lead them straight to my friend.

[@Mischievous_Moth]

Hold this stratagem beacon, and don't mind the 500KG bomb coming towards you.

[@GusCraft460]

If you run out of bounds then your ship will try to kill you with orbital strikes. If you kite a huge horde of bugs with you, you can take them out.

[@kyze8284]

Meanwhile, I keep tapping them to get a couple nests relatively clear to chase me so the people I’m with will strike the tunnels if they have more than one brain cell and hopping in my HMG like Burt Gummer in Tremors 3

[@weldonwin]

I'm personally fond of minefields, all those red blinky lights are so pretty, right before the swarm comes stampeding in and the explosions start

[@GusCraft460]

@@weldonwin or your teammates

[@iTrollerNoob]

12:20 In the "Escort Priority Citizens" missions, you can clearly see regular people with no helmets on running to the evac point. Also, the dead bodies you find around also don't have helmets or rebreathers on, so the humans definitely can breath regularly on the planet they colonize.

[@tapioperala3010]

To me, Terminids are basically Tyranids, and would function very much the same; evolving when needed, and when faced with opposition they'd go on overdrive. The stiffer the opposition, the greater the speed of evolution (both in "troops" as well as in tactics and strategies). Would love to see a similar video on Automatons! I'LL SEE YOU ON THE BATTLEFIELD, SOLDIER!

[@sinnerxion7200]

Malevelon Creek mentioned and PTSD kicks in “THE TREES! THE TREES ARE SPEAKING BINARY!!!!”

[@sturzkampfflugzueg]

*the trees are speaking clanker*

[@joihall1708]

"Humans are space orcs" and "Earth is space Australia" are very fitting for a lot of your videos.

[@lostzwolf7269]

then lets not talk about all the wars Australia lost against invasive species...

[@togeluga_the_cat]

"dont test us, we human beings will gaslight ourselves into thinking you are the problem" -a wise man

[@enaznonnac9602]

12:25 you can see dead SEAF soldiers around the map without any breathing apparatus

[@SauseBoss117]

PETITION TO HAVE THIS GO UP IN BETWEEN BRASCH TACTICS TIPS!

[@wolfoffenris9951]

Our reseachlabs work tierelessly to find new ways to kill more bugs, To kill your enemy, you must understand your enemy Join the mobile inf..... the hell divers Do you want to know more?

[@shoulderpyro]

Every helldiver pausing between operations for 20 minutes to watch General Roanoke

[@kathiecraig2803]

@@shoulderpyro *General Roanoke, the...* *Scientist General?*

[@Techstriker1]

"Would you like to see a video on the Automatons?" Yes. Also the Illuminate please, when they inevitably show up.

[@Raoul2122]

During the hostage rescue missions, you see humans outside without breathers, thus the athmosphere has oxygen.

[@stevenjones4258]

Something to support the respiratory segment with the planet levels. The mission of rescuing the civilians they come out of the bunkers w/o masks or rebreathers

[@ElijahNMitchell]

“I find the idea of a bug that thinks offensive.”

[@jameslovallo9603]

A fellow creature of culture I see

[@greedlike]

Amazing

[@camarofan2008]

"Dropping into hell trooper. It's time to grow a pair." Miss Halo odst.

[@Talon1124]

WE ARE GREEN AND VERY, VERY MEAN!

[@tomassaez9476]

"if you would like to see a vi..." Yes.

[@vrinnmetagen]

From what I recall before the game released, there was like an in universe message from the cyborgs claiming the automatons are their children. I believe the cyborgs are still their own faction enslaved on cyberstan to work in the factories and the mines there like they were before the galactic war and at the automatons are going to go to to the cyborg home world, free them and then the cyborgs may become either new units in the automatons or their own faction and of course the illuminant will also become a faction

[@legaldumper8902]

[Comment under investigation for treason.]

[@ImperialGuardsman2]

[Comment under investigation for overwhelming patriotism.]

[@RedBoko2017]

@@ImperialGuardsman2 [Investigator investigating said comment is under investigation for treason.]

[@jeremymoses7401]

[Monitering comments for Heresey]

[@InfmsKon]

[Comment under review, please wait]

[@ArDeeMee]

[thread closed by admin, too many traitors]

[@jo1italianstyle]

Nice argument, but FERNIR exists, i belive the bugs terraform into their ideal planet. They grow mushrooms and flowers. they are bioengeneers

[@nikkolasnowak9805]

some ants cultivate fungus for food so this not a big jump from bugs on earth

[@smugreptile6695]

I dont know but I've been told, Fernir 3 be mighty cold.

[@Jiub_SN]

Nah, the spores are for eating. Their food may be different enough that they need to grow their own, humanity does the same on those worlds

[@RoguesStatus]

You mentioned breathable air and how the helmet may be the reason for oxygen supply however because it was a colony, it's safe to assume the residents were not always wearing helmets. Pay attention to the next extraction mission you play. The people running to safety are not wearing helmets. They can breath the planets air.

[@GOWvMatchstick]

Just want you to know that I searched the exact title and youtube refused to show this video in the search results

[@MrMattogreen25]

Sad you didn't mention their pheromones causing bug breaches, it's something I noticed almost immediately

[@franciscoperez5450]

Is there anyway to stop them!?! I feel like I take them out right away but a breach always happens

[@bobross7730]

@@franciscoperez5450you have like 1 sec to kill them when they start the animation

[@sol-hunter2332]

​@@franciscoperez5450its akin to the bots shooting a Flare. You have but a moment to kill them, but after a certain point its too late.

[@TheModdedwarfare3]

​@@franciscoperez5450they make a very unique noise before doing it. The thing that probably trips you up the most though is that when you kill the bug calling for more bugs then another nearby bug will do it until they are all gone or the call went through. So be thorough and switch to your sidearm if you have to.

[@taglagable]

Orbital poison where the breach appears is highly effective

[@shadows_star]

One note about the Cyborgs and the automatons. We need to take it with a grain of salt, but the crew members, talk about the Cyborgs as having been trapped in the mines of Cyberstan for 100 years, being 'rehabilitated' after they lost the war in the first game. There is also a binary message that the helldivers 2 twitter dropped prior to the launch of the game, that when translated declares that their children the automatons, will not suffer oppression. So, odds are. The cyborgs at some point during the war, figured they would lose the war and started prepping the 'next' generation. Their children, to be able to have the tools they didn't to succeed in independence. This also lines up with why the automaton's are heading to Cyberstan, to save their forefathers.

[@farcy3insanitymeme]

Two things I would like to add here: As for the breathable oxygen on the planets, this is pretty much confirmed. When you rescue scientists or civvies, they do not wear any helmets, indicating no special equipment is required to survive there. Though the queen concept you keep bringing up, we do not know of one yet. but currently there is known bugs bigger than the bile titans. Those being the Hive Lords, who dig the terminid tunnels and are EXTREMELY powerful. These guys were enemies in HD1.

[@goodlooking8936]

Hearsay the Automatons will never reach Cyberstan

[@picivyvortac2641]

Super Earth made space oil into a renewable resource. Don't eat the bugs, refine the bugs.

[@Heathkatt]

It is also possible, that instead of being eusocial insects, they may actually be more like most cockroach species and be social, but not have a queen. Cockroaches use aggregation pheromones to stay clumped together. Many types of insects are social, but are not eusocial. (like ants, termites, honey bees) Having a level of higher intelligence like we're claiming, could actually mean that they are more than likely not following a "hive mind" like activity, and are more than likely just clumping into groups, because they have the same goals of eating a reproducing. This may explain why they have eggs on multiple planets, and there has been no sign of a queen. The different types of terminids could suggest that they have castes, which would point more towards eusocial though. Im typing this from my pest control office on break. Im not an entomologist so please dont yell at me.

[@d1g1beastpr1me7]

Being a huge nature fan I've never known about this! This is a very interesting theory, thanks for sharing :D

[@__-tp4tm]

"I didn't see you at Malevelon Creek" I'm a steahlthy scaredy cat that gets the job done indeed

[@longc35]

I always figured that the way the bugs were “planet hopping” was that they weren’t, like Super Earth put the Termanids in farms on those planets and just didn’t tell us so when they break out it looks like they’re planet hopping.

[@russothewhip7474]

Wake up babe Helldivers, Roanoke’s covering Managed Democracy

[@superluigi6968]

8:20 --The Morse Code from the "Stop the illegal broadcast" objective tells us that the Automatons are the "children" of the Cyborgs, so idk.-- E: It's actually deep lore from the Helldivers twitter back in 2021, read replies to this comment. Where'd the reply go?

[@whoisthis4948]

Interesting

[@AngryBoozer]

Can’t find the souce for that. Care to help out?

[@richardxia1720]

Beware! ​@@AngryBoozeris a democracy officer! All hail the resistance!

[@user-pw7ox6wl6o]

​@@richardxia1720I hope you find help. You and your liberty discriminating socialist traitors will be stopped! GLORY TO SUPER EARTH

[@A.SanjayBrown-xz8wi]

"As long as the bomb hits i dont care about dying" -me after wasting all my ammo and gernades on a single charger

[@seanstutz8133]

I was waiting to get the shield backpack before I go to the machines, I'll be there today 😂

[@nemokrad2650]

From what I remember, it’s Super Earth because they combined the moon with normal earth and then used Mars as a replacement moon.

[@privateuser3726]

How?! Why?!

[@r.connor9280]

Shell World?

[@josephstahl9119]

@@privateuser3726Because we’re worth it of course!

[@darkreflection9087]

Halo ODST + Starship Troopers + A pinch of Warhammer 40k = Helldivers 2

[@faywilson2495]

Star wars battlefront as well

[@Kurai_Hikari]

Don’t forget the humor of EDF

[@Knight.Of.Christ]

Terminator as well

[@burnttoast26]

@@Kurai_HikariNot quite, EDF goes all-out on the ridiculous factor, Helldivers is pretty tame in comparison

[@merafirewing6591]

​@@burnttoast26 if only they could dial up the humor.

[@scotch4890]

Every general in history: never fight a war on two fronts Super Earth: democracy comes in threes

[@Mi5teakBoy]

YOUR SHIP IS NAMED THE PATRIOT OF PATRIOTISM?!?! MINE TOO! Since day 1, it seemed like the most obnoxious Uber-Democracy name! You sir, just earned a subscriber 😂

[@michaelm240]

“I didn’t see you at Malevelon Creek” Perhaps that was due to the endless streams of lasers flying from the tree line, brother. Perhaps that caught your eye instead of my mangled, oil-and-bloodstained body firing my last clip of ammo into the bot horde, brother. Maybe I was there, dying like the rest of them, brother! MAYBE I WAS THERE! *sob* Maybe I was there…

[@Viktor_404]

it's okay grampa, we took the creek back 25 years ago, let's go get your meds now

[@seb24789]

The trees. They speak binary.

[@princeofcinders5738]

I can’t go for a walk at night in the park past the trees, otherwise they start speaking in binary…

[@user-pw7ox6wl6o]

thank you for your service, diver. However, your comment does not meet the community democracy speech guidelines, so I have no choice other than to report this to the democracy speech police. GLORY TO SUPER EARTH

[@princeofcinders5738]

@@user-pw7ox6wl6o That-That won’t be necessary! I just started some new Super Medication that makes me feel incredibly Democratic! I laugh when I go by the tree’s now!

[@GameGardenGavin]

There's bug bodies on automoton planets, on the other side of the galaxy, another theory could be that they're spreading similar to aquatic invasive species on Earth. The spores/eggs/whatever bugs do to reproduce go into the 'ballast' or some part of the human ships, and have been transported to wherever we go. Could also explain why they keep popping back up on worlds that weve taken back.

[@shygye647]

"To fight the bug, we must understand the bug. We can ill-afford another Klendathu." -Sky Marshal Tehat Meru

[@GusCraft460]

E-710 isn’t just “space oil”. It specifically is used to allow ships to jump between systems. My head canon is that there is an unseen variant of terminid that can biologically jump between systems. I also think there bust be a specialized digging terminid (possibly chargers) to construct the underground bug tunnel network, because the pointy limbs of most terminids seem poorly adapted for digging. I am also curious what their exoskeletons are made of to enable them to deflect even railgun shots.

[@mansematheo4501]

For digging there is a type called hive lord, but we only see them in HD1, but sadly their not queen

[@spinosaurusiii7027]

@@mansematheo4501 While we have only seen them alive in one, their corpses can sometimes be found in two, so I am assuming we will see them again soon

[@SuperJay1210]

Sooooo... it's just the hive fleets of the tyranids basically

[@GusCraft460]

@@SuperJay1210 no, nothing like it. I’m saying that the terminids are individually capable of FTL. And go watch starship troopers. Helldivers is nothing like 40k and exactly like starship troopers.

[@mrcheesemunch]

I risk my life to say this but I'm pretty sure Super Earth either put the bugs there on purpose or on accident, they actually farm them for the oil substance. I've heard lines talk about bugs "breaking out of containment" so most likely it's just incompetence.

[@tyrannos3537]

The only good bug is a dead bug

[@KonohazFinest]

You know what to do 🫡

[@RevantheBlack]

I’m doing my part!

[@glenmick4323]

FOR SUPER EARTH!!!!!!!

[@MaxMTTpm]

but ur canada 😐

[@noahsymington5976]

In regards to the part about planets having a max viable oxygen concentration, I remember reading somewhere that you can breathe air with a higher percentage of oxygen if the pressure is reduced. So a higher oxygen might be viable with a device to regulate pressure

[@TheRauzKindred]

This was great, I know I'd love to see videos on the other species, and another one perhaps if they end up adding a fourth enemy faction which is currently a theory cause of how the map is divided, the northing sector is suspiciously spacious.

[@robfus]

Actually the npc on the ship says the Cyborgs are still on Cyberstan. They are enslaved in the mines.

[@OnionZest]

If by enslaved you mean fairly compensated and enjoying meaningful labor, then you are right.

[@Onzo22]

​@OnionZest actually there over compensated for their work which there working ethic is way worse than the people of super earth which are the best and only workers we need for super earth. Its out of manage democracy and the kindness of the people that they work there.

[@HelghastStalker]

​@@OnionZestThey are enjoying the benefits of Democracy!

[@nextcaesargaming5469]

Our forces are prepared for any alien threats! The navy launches ships, the airforce sends their jets! And nothing can withstand our fixed bayonets!

[@zarakblack8737]

The EDF deploys!

[@lizardjoe4224]

Our forces have now dwindled and we've pulled back to regroup The enemy gas multiplied and formed a massive group We'd better beat these bugs before we're all turned to soup

[@fuzclock8561]

@@lizardjoe4224The EDF deploys !

[@dashawnbonnett5847]

THE EDF DEPLOYSSSS!!!

[@Khornecussion]

Me after dropping an orbital laser on a bile titan that caught a squad mate in the beam: " I'd expect anyone in this unit to the same for me. "

[@GoodnightMoon4]

Reminder that Element-710 is just "oil" backwards as numbers, for fun. Also, more speculation ofc, but its possible there remains a means of transport via things we haven't seen yet, similar to other "buggy" sci-fi lifeforms like tyranids or zerg. Considering the entire planet/continent of bugs doesn't rush you all at once when you engage in a fight, it could be argued there really isn't a hivemind running them all right now, or maybe ever -- but it could also just be separation of mechanics and lore, because that doesn't sound terribly fun to engage in

[@ryantannar5301]

so glad they made a game where the Tempestus Scions fight back against the Tyranids and Men of Iron

[@grimjoker5572]

Helldivers is a legit parody of Starship Troopers. Love it.

[@adarkwind4712]

And on the other side of the map you get to fight Skyn- I mean the automatons and their overlord program J.O.E.L

[@thewhizbang]

“Humans making this difficult for themselves, how is that possible?” 😂😂

[@christhe2dprotogen511]

I mean based on what I’ve been told, most of the lore is from the missions the players complete So maybe it’s up to us to figure out terminid stuff?

[@WShoup9818]

Hd1 had something called a hive lord but we have already know hive lords will return from a q&a with the devs. We will face more bugs later on and same with bots and probably with illumate. Gotta add this edit another thing if you haven't read some of the notes in game one states they recently discovered that the bugs where somehow laying eggs and sticking them into human ships and hatch than spread without people noticing. I like the illumate theory but my theroy is humanity started it again because they needed a reason for war. Helldivers after the first galactic war hated their jobs and moral was low. Imagine coming home eager to liberate and destroy than becoming a crossing guard or something and with low crime rates. Super earth purposely let the hive rebuild and escape so they can rearm and instill hope and inspire more people to become citizens. Also c1-0 permit for all Helldivers and citizens 🙃.

[@eathanlevek4834]

As a Space Marshal, I have taken it upon myself to report you to my local Democracy officer. Enjoy the rehabilitation camp!

[@LordGihrenZabi]

Hello, Democracy Officer, yeah, it’s this guy here.

[@shoulderpyro]

I know this is the Nid video but a slightly worrying thing on the Automatons. They have literal crates of human bodies outside most of their fabricator outposts, if not straight up cages with some humans still (dead) inside. I genuinely think those bodies are what's being processed, alive or dead, into the Automatons. A human brain in a metal shell, Cyberman style. .. which might mean we're fighting our own brothers and sisters, our own fallen heroes of war.

[@TheWaterboy818]

Oh god what if it turns out that Joel is keeping track of dead Helldivers and the deaths feed into the automaton army.

[@nunull6427]

Keep track of game chat at time of death, and that's what you hear as they approach you. You and your friends/random teammates voices haha

[@behandeln]

"This video is an affront to the beautiful democracy of Super Earth!!!" -Helldiver No. 59765 landing on Malevalon Creek

[@sorebeick1064]

There's actually a little interaction thing on earth colonist greenhouses. Supposedly, the little things with maybe 40 plants can replicate earth's atmosphere enough to live near. Civilian rescue missions also have them run to the escape without rebreathers or helmets

[@SlapsturntoSMMMMMACK]

"I hear the call of the Rolling Tide. I must heed it... FOR THE EMP-" *coughs and clears throat* "FOR DEMOCRACY!"

[@VividJarl]

To seal the deal on the atmospheric compatibility, you can find both SEAF and colonist bodies, as well as the living colonists you can extract as part of the missions on the Terminid front, none of which sport any sort of respirators. Also please do a video for the Automatons, you can use it as an excuse to cover how that technological transcendence might have played out because I'd love to hear your thoughts about that in particular.

[@beefmaster32]

USA: "DID SOMEBODY SAY OIL?"

[@Zombiewithabowtie]

Nah I heard oil! *DAT SHIT MINE!!*

[@Caspianm2]

The small farms you can find on some planets have a lore but saying that the atmosphere inside them is similar to Super Earth's atmosphere, so the oxygen might not be exactly the same. But then again when we escort civilians they aren't wearing helmets or breathers, so it's likely not *too* desimilar.

[@Nebulous_Encounter]

Plot twist is the Terminid queen is kept captive on Super Earth or Mars to produce the space oil for their ships to make FTL jumps and the Terminids are fighting to free her.

[@cadenmichael8052]

Roanoke, how dare you fail to mention the "puppetmaster" behind all of this! JOEL!

[@Phireyon-Archives]

“Who else has fought in the war that began these atrocities committed against us. Who else has lost brothers sisters, Friends, relatives, and comrades in the war. Any who have lived from the first just too come back a 100 years. I summon you to speak and Fight again.” Who else played helldivers 1 before helldivers ?

[@fredfry4756]

That calamitous birdnest of a hairstyle humbles you as well. Roasted. Thank you for another bold recap. Love yer vids.

[@eatenjaguarjaguareaten3367]

Honestly, my own personal headcanon for why the Terminids were suddenly everywhere and posing an active threat is that the farms breeding them were all over. And much like an ant colony, all these big aggressive warrior bugs were seen as signs of a healthy terminid colony. So, the human farmers allowed them to populate with those, perhaps even culling them as a part of farming and measuring how long it took to replenish them to see if the colony was healthy or not.

[@jesserothhammer7378]

That's crazy how the humans treated the Tyranids, Necrons, and Tau... wait, what?

[@AchievementDenied]

3:06 LIBERTY OFFICER, THIS DISSENTER RIGHT HERE!

[@MurderTwink]

What I take from this is humans took a cockroaches survivability, a primates brain, and a dolphins intelligence and somehow managed to meet 3 different species and simultaneously declare war on all of them, and somehow come out pretty much on top

[@severalracoons9315]

Papa Roanoke: uploads video Me: Regale me in lore about things I don't understand even remotely magic man

[@Rurik_Luci]

17:45 I hear your plea for reinforcements. And I gladly stamp your request *[DENIED]*

[@ranger409RL]

LMAO 😂