Considering how similar it is to "The Thing" i think it would be great to look at the Carrion monster since it came out a few days ago
@RoanokeGaming4 жыл бұрын
Ive heard of the carrion, what movie is that?
@metalman50024 жыл бұрын
it's a video game that just released, 20 bucks USD or so
@Calvin.Hobbes984 жыл бұрын
@@metalman5002 can confirm, i have the game in my wishlist on steam, because it looks cool.
@--------3524 жыл бұрын
@@RoanokeGaming it's a game, think a 2d stealth action puzzle focused pixelart version of prototype
@ShadeMeadows4 жыл бұрын
Its AWESOME
@oedipusrex3534 жыл бұрын
When you have HIV and your body kills the thing accidentally Defens
@itspurplepaw61634 жыл бұрын
Helth
@theoneglorylucky30714 жыл бұрын
HIV didn’t work that way and that thing spread like fire hiv isn’t that fast in infection
@DioDidNothingWrong-w1q4 жыл бұрын
@@theoneglorylucky3071 Yeah it's a movie. About Aliens. I don't think that change was too bad.
@friedrice78764 жыл бұрын
The Medic
@markdoroguntsev17664 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt the thing alien had immune system to infect in the first place
@RoanokeGaming4 жыл бұрын
Sorry bout the re-upload, I got caught for using a 15 second clip lmao but if you chose to watch again, I appreciate your support! Edit: CRAP I FORGOT TO TURN OFF NOTIFICATIONS
@elsayan84724 жыл бұрын
AYO man, no problem. Still a very good video!
@robm67264 жыл бұрын
Great job though, appreciate the vid.
@techmetal29644 жыл бұрын
*uses 14.95 second clip
@vulpinequeen92694 жыл бұрын
What clip was cut???
@ETH_ScarFox4 жыл бұрын
Always watch your videos mate, over and over. So a re-upload here and there is no bother. Keep up the good work.
@WritteninBlood3 жыл бұрын
Bennings wasn't bitten by the dog; the dog simply nudged him when it walked under the table, startling him. Bennings was infected after being attacked by the remains of split-face in the storeroom.
@anthonygreico97353 жыл бұрын
Yes true. That seen confused me. Did the Thing sort of take over Bennings' body mass, or did it fully break his mass and create a new 'Bennings"? If it was the latter, it does not make sense because the split face was not big enough and there seemed to be too little time.
@gmork10903 жыл бұрын
@@anthonygreico9735 Nah, it was taking over his mass. Split-face was likely still recovering from having been burnt and frozen so likely just dumped a bunch of its regenerated goo into Bennings system. Bennings got up and left.
@anthonygreico97353 жыл бұрын
@@gmork1090 Why were "Bennings'" hands like claws?
@giftedfox47483 жыл бұрын
@@anthonygreico9735 Most likely the goo that left split face wanted to survive so it added its mass into Bennings. With the new mass being added remembering the monster it once was it had a harder time to quickly adjust itself back into a normal human hand. Mass has to go somewhere, it just doesn't disappear.
@Lucifronz3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonygreico9735 Yeah, what the other guy said. It's likely just unformed mass from the previous Thing host that didn't have a chance to form into human appendages in time. It was close, though, as the rest of his body was pretty much finished disguising itself. I don't know about the "remembering" part, but it was at least probably not trying to create weapons. The "claws" seemed pretty useless as "Bennings" didn't react in time to fight back against the group before being lit on fire and annihilated.
@Thewisemanoncesaid4 жыл бұрын
Down to watchi this again, never get bored hearing about The Thing.
@RoanokeGaming4 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro!
@thenucleardoggo4 жыл бұрын
Same though!
@lesliehardeman62124 жыл бұрын
Same
@elijazfrazelsassafraz31004 жыл бұрын
Cant get enough! Ever!
@Gryffyth_Aurum4 жыл бұрын
Same. Have found enjoyment rewatching it with reactors on KZbin and Patreon.
@KiuhKobold3 жыл бұрын
Me: Traumatized by each monster scene and assimilation in The Thing movies Also me: Oh, science of the monster. Fascinating
@GhostonGuitar4 жыл бұрын
When I hear super cell, I always think of giant thunder clouds
@RoanokeGaming4 жыл бұрын
well you arnt wrong
@GhostonGuitar4 жыл бұрын
@@RoanokeGaming I studied weather as a kid mostly
@UCmDBecUtbSafffpMEN3iscA4 жыл бұрын
I also thought about the Japanese singer/band or something
@worlds30614 жыл бұрын
I always though it was Clash Of Clans developer.
@sayansengupta57914 жыл бұрын
I think if the perfect being getting killed by an 11 year old half alien when I hear that
@mactony44 жыл бұрын
The prequel was almost finished when a higher up came in and said that the practical effect looked too much like the 80's movies and ordered them to add cgi to make them ``better``.
@Sara33464 жыл бұрын
Do you know where I can read more about this nonsense brain dead decision?
@rossicourvosi2184 жыл бұрын
The original still has amazing effects
@KamenArts4 жыл бұрын
@@Sara3346 bloody-disgusting.com/interviews/26758/interview-the-thing-2011-screenwriter-explains-how-the-film-transformed-into-what-you-saw/ They were also forced to change the story, quicken its pace, and erase character development because it was deemed too boring
@friendlyneighborhoodkelbea72583 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHPdoYdti9KGl7c the practical effects are pieces of art, especially the pilot alien, shit looks like it is real. Of course it would use CGI to help a little. Like imagine Split Face floating around lol. They were made by these same people that did practical effects for alien 3 and the original 4 tremors films.
@Sara33463 жыл бұрын
@@KamenArts thank you. Thank you very much.
@LowenKM3 жыл бұрын
Even if such a creature were possible, was always curious what kinda metabolism it must have just to meet the incredible energy demands of such rapid growth and cell division.
@theshermantanker70432 жыл бұрын
It's called a super cell for a reason, it's what you get when you combine the insane survivability of unicellular organisms with the massive ability of multicellular ones to cooperate and work together. It's basically cancer but not really cancer
@OccupiedMuffins Жыл бұрын
probably chalk it up to the creators not wanting to over complicate a fun premise. they actively drew a line between explaining and actual science behind stuff. they kept a lot ambiguous on purpose. there's always a fun factor to consider with movies.
@geekgirl616 Жыл бұрын
I think it probably gets it from the host as it assimilates because even in the movie it seems to destroy the original copy humans pack a ton of calories my guy
@SStupendous Жыл бұрын
I mean, it is an alien.
@2004DodgeViper Жыл бұрын
red bull
@RaKeLN.4 жыл бұрын
9:19 Bennings was never bitten by Dog-Thing on the leg. He was shot by one of the Norwegians on the leg, but not bitten. Then he got assimilated in the storage room.
@amrutkulkarni78592 жыл бұрын
Didn't he get assimilated in the med bay when the two face thing wraps its tentacles around him?
@RaKeLN.2 жыл бұрын
@@amrutkulkarni7859 It was the store room.
@scottmyers10 Жыл бұрын
He does, however, grab McCreedy's J&B bottle with the glove that the "dog" had just covered in saliva. Then McCreedy takes a giant swig straight from the bottle, putting the saliva covered top straight to his mouth.
@ghostface15294 жыл бұрын
When you expect a very in-depth analysis of an alien monster but instead you get a biology lesson more than the analysis of the monster itself
@ffejpsycho4 жыл бұрын
You actually can see chiles' breath clearly during scenes at the end... What's more telling, is how McCready offers him the drink of liquor, and Chiles accepts and shares it... drinking some. Even though they've established that the super cells can be passed through sharing food & drink... I think this is why McCready laughs, because chiles has outed his own infected state having failed the test Only if chiles was already a "thing" would he have drank after another of unknown status has previously drank straight from same bottle. Chiles-thing thinking best response is accepting the offer, in solidarity to build rapport. Since a thing is no longer concerned with the potential super cells from a sharing a unknown's drink as dangerous, he happily accepts the "peace offering"... inadvertently showing his hand to McCready. What ya think, eh??
@dustinjones74584 жыл бұрын
There's an old fan theory that (human) Macready gave Childs a bottle full of gasoline from the molotovs they had. Gambling that if he downed it without flinching, the Thing would try to mimic him perfectly-but a real human being would spit it out, because it tastes terrible.
@MeredithLikely4 жыл бұрын
That is a very good point. And I've always had a problem with the visable breathe theory. Child's had been stuck outside for quite awhile, even with all those clothes mcready was nearly frozen to death earlier in the movie when his line got cut. So it stands to reason that child's could have just been cold. However it was established as soon as they knew what they were dealing with that food could spread it. So bottle theory is pretty stronk
@waltergilmore73714 жыл бұрын
True🤔🤨😀 Chile's is the thing....true.👀
@smcmullan9954 жыл бұрын
He accepted the drink because he knows they're both going to freeze to death anyway.
@MeredithLikely4 жыл бұрын
@@smcmullan995 but if he became a thing from drinking, he would doom the earth.
@vahki4 жыл бұрын
The “Hippity Hoppity your body is now my property” alien
@hewhobattles88694 жыл бұрын
Did you get that from Dankula?
@ffejpsycho4 жыл бұрын
So kinda like the blood raven's?
@vahki4 жыл бұрын
Thing fuses with your body then goes Cha Cha Real Smoth
@cinnmondotpng4 жыл бұрын
ah yes, the flood
@BlahajBeholder4 жыл бұрын
The Spy *WAIT-*
@Loreweavver Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the idea the comics went with that the single cells of the thing had their own goals of spreading and growing but as it assimilated and assumed more complex organisms it had to adapt to having a brain. Simple animals like fish or sheep weren't so problematic but after becoming human it was introduced to things like paranoia and anxiety.
@dbexodia104 жыл бұрын
The Childs breath theory has been proven wrong in some of the enhanced versions. You can see his breath, it just isn't as well caught by the light as MacReady.
@The_Ravener3 жыл бұрын
Also Thing-Bennings breath is visible just before they burn him so it's not really a reliable measurement.
@acepr0123 жыл бұрын
Question: When the alien mimics someone and before it reveals itself to a threat, does the person it's mimicing believe they are the real person until they are found out?
@thelaymenmuslim46032 жыл бұрын
In the novel who goes there.. yes the mimic BELIEVE they are still human.. just showing how terrifying the thing is. On cellular level they imitate completely and only assert control to mimics at convenient by altering their braincells as blair does when it consume gary
@Demonamic7772 жыл бұрын
They show signs that they are still human which is how they blend in so well, but ultimately once the super cell has taken over the entire body. That person is no longer there, they are truly a copy of who they were. It's also aware enough to coordinate with other Thing copies and form tactics to spread the infection, as well as taunt it's prey using our own spoken language.
@thebobbyeaton2 жыл бұрын
its a bit confusing for me. i think the person is aware they are the thing especially since someone sabotaged the blood tests, obviously they didn’t want to be found out. thats just my take
@user-lb9xw4xf2q2 жыл бұрын
@@Demonamic777 It also seems willing to sacrifice parts of itself; as in the morgue scene, it draws attention to the walking head - perhaps to maintain human cover?
@jaimesilva19902 жыл бұрын
@@thebobbyeaton They aren’t a person though. If a person is fully infected, then they’re gone. It is just the parasite disguised as a person.
@JACKTHEDRAGONOKEEFFE2 жыл бұрын
Its amazin how The Thing can evolve the way it did. It went from being shitty CGI in the Norwegian camp, to being the best special effects ever seen in a movie in the American camp.
@emperorkraglint97923 жыл бұрын
I think you did a great job on this. The Thing (1982) is one of my most favored horror movies of all time and spawned my fear of dying on a cellular level. This was really cool and informative
@eanna37814 жыл бұрын
The poit you made about Childs at the end is rendered null by the remaster. It was just that the actor wasn't breathing as heavily so you couldn't see his breath as well in the original, but in the remaster the condensation is visible.
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe60094 жыл бұрын
Also the thing mimics even hearth problems, it would definitely mimic the breath
@JojonathanOliveira4 жыл бұрын
Childs was infect though, at least that is the favored interpretation the movie gives. At the beginning of the movie Mac Ready was playing chess against an AI, after the AI checkmate him he grabs a can of beer and pour booze all over the computer destroying it. This scene foreshadow the whole movie, just like in chess he lost pieces to the AI all throught the movie Mac Ready lost all his friends to the Thing. He also lost the 'game' as he failed to destroy the Thing before it could destroy the American Outpost. In the end he give booze to Childs mirroring that he pour it on the computer, it was a resigned 'fuck it', he had already lost.
@testcase724 жыл бұрын
@@JojonathanOliveira Hadn't thought of that possible foreshadowing bit.
@a.k81853 жыл бұрын
@@JojonathanOliveira The thing video game states that Childs died, and mac lived
@JojonathanOliveira3 жыл бұрын
@@a.k8185 so? I'm talking about the movie not the video game. In the movie there are themes and narrative elements, the chess game Mac play is one such element.
@johnny2x474 жыл бұрын
16:15 it was stated in an interview by Keith David that the reason why he doesn't have any fog coming out of his mouth is because he was within the range of the fire within the background before he showed up on camera
@SStupendous Жыл бұрын
His breath is there if you lighten the film footage up
@9ZweihandeR94 жыл бұрын
The scene where you can only see one person's breath is often interpreted as that you can't see the breath of the person who is the Thing. I think it may be just the opposite. The Thing is always shown to be very wet and slimy, and it would have a very hot body temperature due to the amount of cellular activity. The humans meanwhile, have been exerting themselves a lot for a long time with little or no water, and would thus probably have very dehydrated throats, so they might not have visible moisture in their breaths. On the other hand, since the Thing changes shape frequently, it might not rely on the lungs of the humans it mimics, and is merely faking breathing. It could breath through its skin.
@shcdemolisher3 жыл бұрын
humans actually do breath through our skin but it's very minor in comparison to our lungs. it's why we drown easily because we can't breath through our lungs and skin in that situation.
@marksmidt82253 жыл бұрын
Know this is a bit late but in the game version of the thing (PS2 I believe) it's confirmed that neither are infected, this was confirmed as canon I believe by John Carpenter.
@michaelaguilera69462 жыл бұрын
are you talking about the end of 82's. in the end you can see both of them breathing it's just that chiils is shit in dark so it's harder to see
@tosdy848010 ай бұрын
@@shcdemolisherwhat
@shcdemolisher10 ай бұрын
@@tosdy8480 I say that since one of the actresses who had her body painted all over in James Bond GoldFinger almost suffocated that way. I'm not joking!
@whatthewhatthe91174 жыл бұрын
The most horrifying thing about the thing is that if one virion was to be unleashed onto a city it would become unstoppable like the X parasite from Metroid
@ash_j_williams4 жыл бұрын
I would have the whole world nuked
@KaiserStormTracking3 жыл бұрын
SCP foundation has entered chat I heard you need nukes which we have. Want us to put them out of thier misery
@DogKacique3 жыл бұрын
That's supposing that it breeds or multiplies. If it is a single entity, it probably would have a limit about how much of the world it can take
@tuachixiong52323 жыл бұрын
One other comparison would be one flood spore from halo. According to the games, it only takes one flood spore to end an entire planet.
@N26EEP Жыл бұрын
Good Old Fire Bomb Would Fix It.
@rakedetheron23534 жыл бұрын
What would you think is more efficient: the Thing’s instantaneous assimilation, or the Marker’s complete rewrite of genetic code?
@HenriqueLSilva4 жыл бұрын
I'd say both. The thing can assimilate knowledge instantly but it seems to completely ditch every bit of it when under threat and after converting itself into a defensive form. Meanwhile the single necromorphs are pretty animalistic and seem to lack any proper rational thought (except for the stalkers, clever bastards), but as the marker infects more people we begin to see smarter variants as biomass is added until we reach the brethren moons, which seem to be highly intelligent. So I'd say both can be very efficient in their own way. Unless the people who meet the original thing live to tell the story, it can infect the entire world without anyone suspecting a thing, but it doesn't seem to get much clever than the species it assimilates, meanwhile the marker's effects are anything but subtle, but they're also very effective at ruining any chances of an organized counterattack, and result in a highly intelligent outcome. I'd give a little more points to the necromorphs as they seem much more successful (they always seem to spread fast and efficiently while the thing had 2 chances in much smaller locations and failed twice to achieve its goal of total assimilation) but I still think the thing's method of infection wins in wow factor.
@jeambeam31734 жыл бұрын
I'd say the Marker it's specifically resigned for intelligent species to want to crave it and use it as a power source in a way spreading the infection across a species whole species before anyone who isn't of above average intelligence is turned
@scowler924 жыл бұрын
Niether. That title goes to The Beast.
@RoosSkywalker4 жыл бұрын
@@scowler92 Where is that from?
@scowler924 жыл бұрын
@@RoosSkywalker Homeworld.
@jakekovach19724 жыл бұрын
So a couple things, about the Childs/Macready breath scene. When Childs comes around the corner you can see his breath. When he is sitting you cant. That was a continuity error. As for way before that when the dog goes under the table in the break room, it isnt implied at all that the dog bites Bennings more so that he was startled at its presence in the room instead of in the kennel. He gets almost fully assimilated later in the storage room with the "dead" body of the thing leaking its juices and such in the room after he was left alone by Windows. Otherwise top notch video. Always love watching dives in to the nitty gritty with that organism. Edit: If he were bit, he should act like any normal human and check for blood. Just saying body language and such.
@nathanielb14994 жыл бұрын
how does the feets look?
@RoanokeGaming4 жыл бұрын
Like human! for a moment lol
@lissareinhardt31414 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. So often I'll watch "monsters explained" videos and it ends up just being a recap of the movie, or vague explanations that you can't miss watching it. This is incredibly in depth.
@thedoruk63244 жыл бұрын
The Marker : '' *aaaw! That's cute!* The Alien verse Black Pathogen : '' *That's hilarious!*
@RoanokeGaming4 жыл бұрын
I woner who would win
@thedoruk63244 жыл бұрын
@@RoanokeGaming I vote Marker Its easily able to control wheter dead or injured and easily detoriorate whats alive even at a cellular level
@electrowizard32094 жыл бұрын
Roanoke Gaming woner
@SupaFlyJedi4 жыл бұрын
@@RoanokeGaming Interesting thought experiment, they each obtain their biomass in different ways and have different means of attack/defense. It would all depend on how effective these methods were on each other: Xenomorphs rely on direct contact for reproduction and a low level telepathy to control the drones, also, the molecular acid blood would be an issue, would the cells of the Thing be affected by this and therefore unable to replicate a drone? I think that one would be a stalemate, the Xenomorphs can't really cut the Thing to death, and I don't think they would be able to eat it, but the Thing would be unable to replicate a drone Xenomorph, in any case the Queen would know because it wouldn't be able to control/contact that particular drone. I suppose if a facehugger tried to impregnate the thing (in whatever form it was) it may be able to replicate the drones that way, but the Queen would know something is up. Marker/Necromorphs rely on telepathy and driving their hosts insane to provide dead biomass for their fliers (I forget their name) to take over. It also sends out a signal that warps humans, at least, on the cellular level. Would this interfere with the Xenomorphs telepathy? Or would they mow through Necromorphs with reckless abandon? If and when they defeat all the Necromorphs, what do they do with the marker itself? They can't really kill it, it took part of a planet to kill one, and the destruction of a city sized station to destroy another. Does telepathy affect the Thing in any way? The Thing relies on replicating a host and masquerading as them and consuming their biomass to survive. I don't think it could replicate a full grown Xenomorph drone and, while it could probably replicate a Necromorph, the Marker would know something was up because it couldn't control that Necromorph, same thing goes for the Xenomorph queen and the drones, so I think in the end, it would be a stalemate between the three. A fight between the thing and the Yautja, however....
@latinpassion4 жыл бұрын
@@RoanokeGaming the one that has more plot armor
@dostagirl9551 Жыл бұрын
Ugh! Even watching a dissection of this film gives me the shivers. I’m just grateful you didn’t show the kennel scene. I have to FF through that every time I rewatch. That being said excellent commentary and insight.
@Sara33464 жыл бұрын
Gosh your videos have really drastically increased in quality over time for once I feel like I'm not just learning about how monsters were made or what real life parallels there are. I'm also learning a lot of cool stuff about reality. I had no idea about how these genes responsible for disease resistant populations worked before, thank you!
@KXZero4 жыл бұрын
1:41, has to be one of the most frightening screens in the whole series. There's a freaking lot of them to.
@threeomgthree3 жыл бұрын
00:50-00:54 you can see the very subtle “marks” the actor uses to control the dog. Incredible.
@FBI-ju5no4 жыл бұрын
As far as who is infected at the end of the original, depending on which continuation you go with, neither of them are infected, by the end of the movie. In the game, Childs dies from exposure. In the comics, he gets infected WAY later.
@FBI-ju5no4 жыл бұрын
@pyropulse Yeah, neither isn't a continuation. Until the makers of it say what's what, what we got is what we got. Hell, the director said himself he never intended for that ending scene to say EITHER of them were infected.
@Greenwood47274 жыл бұрын
dont forget there was a Thing Video game.. and its considered canon
@hkxeno0014 жыл бұрын
The is a simple trick that was employed during production to keep track of the infected by the director, look for light reflecting in the eyes of an individual. Those without light are infected, Childs is infected at the end of the movie this was confirmed.
@FBI-ju5no4 жыл бұрын
@@hkxeno001 Already debunked. Firstly, the director said he never intended for the ending to show that either of them were infected. Secondly, depending on what you follow as the canon continuation, Childs is not infect here in any situation. Video game, he died of exposure before being infected. Comics, he is infected WAY later. And that's it, until they decide to continue it, and clarify that continuation as canon to the story.
@FBI-ju5no4 жыл бұрын
@retsaM innavoiG ..... There was a game that came out, where you find Childs frozen. So yeah, there's that. As for the director, look it up, it's not hidden at all.
@FoxRants4 жыл бұрын
I could rewatch all your videos all day 🥰
@RoanokeGaming4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the support bro :)
@walterino7244 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if this was a reupload. With the memory of Swiss cheese, who knows anymore.
@BlubRuss4 жыл бұрын
I mean, the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
@Elmithian4 жыл бұрын
I do want to point out that in the older movie, the alien started to build miniature spaceship of some sorts, indicating that even if the parasite didn't have the same technological level as the aliens on the huge ship that was found, it was still more technologically evolved than we are.
@Harbinger285673 жыл бұрын
It's interesting how this movie/creature has created so much theory, conversation, debate, and spin off from its fan base almost 40 years after its release. Shows how well crafted it was to begin with.
@Cappinasd2 жыл бұрын
It was based off real events
@Asertix357 Жыл бұрын
If The Thing can assimilate the person, not just physically but also mentally, does that mean The Thing knows what it feels like to experience paranoia? Possibly experiencing what its victim is feeling by wondering if it's infected and being afraid of that possibility?
@ZVelzy4 жыл бұрын
Super happy you decided to cover "The Thing" movie it's one of my favorite Childhood movies(don't ask) that I watched a lot growing up alongside Alien, Aliens. P.S. When you gonna cover warframe Roanoke?
But we don't know if it was the pilot that got infected. Maybe it was the pilot first and what ever crew was left killed the pilot but the crew ended up infected and the ship crashed into earth. We don't know what type of ship the alien were flying or how big the initial crew were. So if it was the pilot first and got game ended by a crew member that had no knowledge of operating the space craft it would make sense that it crashed. Another theory could be that what ever was infected at the end was neither crew or pilot it could be a creature that the aliens were transporting. So crew gets infected. Kills each other. Loose control of the ship. Creature gets infected in the process. Crew kills each other of before or in the crash. Creature survives with the parasite and escapes.
@augustgurtisen3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the thing wasn't in complete control of the ship, and the aliens forcibly crashed it. In the original, the wilford Brimley thing was making a spaceship in the shed. So, it retained the memories of the original aliens and how to make/fly a ship.
@1of1destro4 жыл бұрын
For me what makes them so dangerous is the fact that it seemingly only takes a single cell to merely touch your body and begin taking over your body without you knowing. It seems to use some type of phagocytosis on your individual cells and the use your broken down components to clone itself, using your dna to somehow use your makeup as it’s own temporary makeup. It does this all in the same process which is amazing. And it does this without even killing you. It’s like replacing the part of a boat plank by plank until it’s a new boat. But you wouldn’t think it’s a new boat. The thing is honestly one of my favorite monsters and assimilation is one of my favorite monster abilities in fiction.
@Snazzy-pu7um4 жыл бұрын
10:17 Are we not going to appreciate the fact that my man had a tadpole development time lapse next in his autoplay lol
@ascensionindustries96313 жыл бұрын
I never thought I'd learn so much about biology while watching a video about one of my favorite horror films. 👍
@bronze1895 Жыл бұрын
There was a theory i had, that when the thing takes over a person not only does the thing retain the person’s memory but since it perfectly copies that person, the copy probably fully believes its a normal human but the motivations are being influenced by the thing cells.
@WickedScott10 ай бұрын
I never thought the dog bit Bennings under the table, I always thought it just rubbed up against his shot leg.
@LargeMike8154 жыл бұрын
Whenever I hear "super cell" I am either reminded of the flood or perfect cell, anyone else?
@theshermantanker70432 жыл бұрын
I can't tell if that's a dragon Ball reference but I'm elated if it is
@CoyotePicante3 жыл бұрын
Actually if you read the short story this is based off "Who Goes There?" by John Campbell the thing is actually not infected, it is indeed the natural state of the creature. A gestalt super organism imo
@FBI-ju5no4 жыл бұрын
I know another way to beat it: Acid. Lots and lots of acid. Like, Zerg Banelings amounts of acid.
@plaguedoctormasque80894 жыл бұрын
No it might be immune
@FBI-ju5no4 жыл бұрын
@@plaguedoctormasque8089 Can't be, acid breaks things down on a cellular level, the cellular level. The only real way to kill the thing is at the cellular level.
@tristanbackup25364 жыл бұрын
Hell, a plasma rifle would work just burning away the atomic structure.
@FBI-ju5no4 жыл бұрын
@@tristanbackup2536 Is that a commonly available rifle, or do I have to have some kind of special license for one?
@MrCoolguy4254 жыл бұрын
FBI 1987 it is very accessible, just use your nearest time machine and you will be able to get one at bargain in a year > 2200
@VexdGamer11 ай бұрын
Another thing to mention about Childs. The last time he's seen before the base gets blown, he was wearing a blue jacket. However, when he's spotted again at the end, he's wearing a white one. Whether this was a production oversight or the "rips through your clothes" detail in action, you be the judge.
@randomgamer14334 жыл бұрын
16:11 yeah I noticed Edit: he was also gone for a long time in the movie
@musical_pumpkin11234 жыл бұрын
I love seeing in depth stuff like this, especially about the Thing. A good pair of movies.
@AnomalyINC4 жыл бұрын
Bennings wasn't bit by the Thing, that's not how it works. He's one of the few characters that we can clearly see when he's being processed, and it was by the split-face-Thing that they recovered from the Norwegian camp. If all it took was a bite, the Thing would never even have to change shape to begin with. I mean, Dr. Copper gets his hands bitten right off, but he never turned. He just died.
@anakinawesome2aa5054 жыл бұрын
Ik its a re-upload but supporting this channel is a must at this point. The content is too good!!
@adolfgaming17614 жыл бұрын
“Flamethrowers... we’ll burn em out..” -SGT. Roebuck
@Karangool3 жыл бұрын
The 1982 "The Thing" is probably my favorite horror movie of all time. Way scarier than the 2011
@Raccon_Detective.4 жыл бұрын
If Roanoke gaming got pierced by the stand arrow his stand would be highway star.
@CerealExperimentsMizuki4 жыл бұрын
Why??
@ffejpsycho4 жыл бұрын
Nobody gonna take my car I'm gonna race it to the ground Nobody gonna beat my car It's gonna break the speed of sound Oooh it's a killing machine It's got everything!!!
@optimoosejones94934 жыл бұрын
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki because it only appears as a set of feet
@Raccon_Detective.4 жыл бұрын
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki He always starts with the feet that's why people joke about how having a foot fetish.
@CerealExperimentsMizuki4 жыл бұрын
@@Raccon_Detective. that has nothing to do with JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, unless Highway Star is a foot fetishist. And also no he wouldn't since nobody can have the same Stand.
@TheMadMurf Жыл бұрын
I'd always thought of the initial alien ship as being of the Thing's race; I hadn't considered that they might be infected themselves. I always think of the Thing as a sentient alien, but that makes me wonder if maybe it's just a virus that evolved over time to fight a super-advanced immune system by perfectly mimicking the cells it attacked; otherwise the equivalent antibodies would be able to wipe it out.
@Jaden-Ring4 жыл бұрын
Imagine the thing vs the flood
@RoanokeGaming4 жыл бұрын
they are both supercells, I truly do wonder who would win
@daleicious15284 жыл бұрын
They’d just be friends.
@HenriqueLSilva4 жыл бұрын
And the million dollar question is: would the thing cell assimilate the flood cells or would the flood cells assimilate the thing cells? My bet is on the thing since the flood seems to take a little bit longer to completely infect a host and the thing supercell only needs to succeed at assimilating a single flood cell to go under the radar (assuming the flood cells don't start to attack one another).
@Jaden-Ring4 жыл бұрын
@@HenriqueLSilva dear God imagine them becoming one nightmare that has flood spores and intelligence AND shape shifting
@HenriqueLSilva4 жыл бұрын
@@Jaden-Ring I did consider that, both essentially "fusing" into an infection that can alternate between violent and silent. That'd be so cool to watch but so horrible to be a part of
@1323WTF4 жыл бұрын
I would LUV it if you worked your magic on the creature from the movie LIFE. A dormant single-cell from a soil sample from Mars quickly transforms and grows to kill all folks ( 6 ) on the ISS in under 24 hrs. This creature seems to be one that you would really Like. Just a thought... B.
@RightsForZombies4 жыл бұрын
Since this is a re-upload it's probably been mentioned but you can see Childs' breath at points at the end, it appears to be a combination of lighting and camera angles as to why it's not constantly visible like Mac's is. I believe that's been confirmed but don't quote me on that.
@EFantasic4 жыл бұрын
Love this. Love this so much. The Thing was my first horror movie experience and anything regarding it I just hold close to my heart.
@deltalord69694 жыл бұрын
You should do a synopsis on the corona virus. Not something from a game but very applicable to your channel and honestly quite fitting.
@RoanokeGaming4 жыл бұрын
I did on my second channel! but removed the videos as it was no longer relevant
@necronomiv39384 жыл бұрын
Such an amazing video man! Your analyses are all on point! You should do Calvin and the Xenomorph. That’d be awesome
@joshuar36324 жыл бұрын
What about the original 1950s version? "The thing from another planet" i believe its called
@ffejpsycho4 жыл бұрын
Totally different, it didn't assimilate others in that one...
@Bluesit324 жыл бұрын
It was, basically, a humanoid vegetable.
@friendlyneighborhoodkelbea72583 жыл бұрын
You need to respect it, if it weren't for it we would have the thing! It is a great movie just as good as the Carpenter's version. There is fucking overlapping dialogue! It gives you a sense of realism, that is how most of us talk. And it has some scenes that were outstanding at the time. And some more comedic touches, tho i'm not going to spoil it. If you want to know more about, cinemasaccre made a review of it.
@joeottsoulbikes4153 жыл бұрын
Nice catch! I have seen The Thing like 30 plus times and for some reason the fact that Childs breath did not freeze when he exhaled or talked never dawned on me. I always imagined they would just sit starring at each other till they both froze and it didn't mater any more. They would both be found. Taken back to the real world and one of them would thaw and escape. In a ships hold or a hospital the infection would start again and the world would be over in a month or two.
@roejogan25854 жыл бұрын
The UFO that crashed was literally the among us ship
@markboyle18434 жыл бұрын
Notanalien was the imposter
@TOG2854 жыл бұрын
So we are now on polus.
@gabrielmefsoutis20374 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes the skeld
@friendlyneighborhoodkelbea72583 жыл бұрын
Honestly, no. That is a flying saucer. And Skeld is a spaceship.
@DontLookBehindYou1 Жыл бұрын
I've been watching your vids for s year or more and I've seen this one yet ... It's cool to see how the channel hasn't gotten even better with time.
@awilliams38413 жыл бұрын
I always wondered about this: when does a person stop being that person when infected? I think it would depend on where and how much skin surface comes into contact with the alien germ/virus. But, when does an infected person stop thinking like themselves and become the thing in disguise as their host? I wonder. Hmmm!
@dr.altoclef9255 Жыл бұрын
I mean, Ship of Theseus. With The Thing I think deep down, regardless of how well it duplicates the consciousness it knows that it's fighting on the side of the green guys and not team human. Evidently in the novel version it's a mimic, where it's very debatable here.
@JoshSweetvale2 жыл бұрын
10:30 T-cell: "Hey, you a pathogen?' The Thing: "Nah dude, I'm just a red blood cell!" T-cell: "We don't take kindly to your kind around here?" The Thing: "What?! But- I'm- *ow!* I'm one of y- *AAAaaargh!* " T-cell: "Hot damn. He _was_ a pathogen! Send his DNA over to the nearest Lymph node, we need to prep a Cytokine storm!"
@robotinvasion53833 жыл бұрын
Consciousness is the ability to suffer, the ability to feel.
@unchained45574 жыл бұрын
I’m kind of late but I thought I would let anybody know. The channel collective learning went through many theories about the thing. Including the child’s not breathing at the end. Very good videos.
@jediknight733 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest horror movies ever!
@incredibleflameboy Жыл бұрын
Do not, i repeat DO NOT get people started with the ending of the thing. Madness is the only thing you'll find there.
@lolialf4 жыл бұрын
the "remake" should have been named "The thing awakens"
@vladyvhv95793 жыл бұрын
It's a prequel, not a remake. The studio wanted the director to make a remake, and he was able to convince them to let him do a prequel instead. This is explained in the director's commentary. As for the name, yes, most everyone agrees that the prequel needs a sub-title to distinguish it from Carpenter's. I'd suggest using the base name, in case further down the road, a sequel may be made. Set sub-titles by location.
@darkstareng3 жыл бұрын
You mentioned a twenty page discussion on what consciousness is. It would be extremely interesting to hear your take on it. You should make a video on it.
@azanathwhateley72354 жыл бұрын
Idea for an actual good horror movie today. The Thing: 2021. Follows the movies and comics, and focuses on a thing that has assimilated to modern day humans, sort of like that vampire movie with Eddie Murphy crossed with Dexter. Just not funny. Or maybe, idk. It's just a good idea. Like this thing isn't only trying to assimilate everything. It's got a personality, and assimilates people using it's well honed knowledge of modern day humans. I'd watch that shit
@lesliehardeman62124 жыл бұрын
Sounds a little like an offshoot of Mimic
@nathanielmorgan91084 жыл бұрын
not interesting besides for the gore because if the thing got out to earth everybodies screwed no contest movie over
@shcdemolisher3 жыл бұрын
@@nathanielmorgan9108 Yeah it'd be like the Flood, Zerg, or tyrannids or any other adaptive species got onto earth, we have zero way of defending agianst them even if given time they would still overrun us easily within weeks, or even days.
@JH-mp1jo3 жыл бұрын
I always thought the ominous music when Childs takes the drink is a tip off that MacReady was infected and the "DUN DUN" was a tell that he had successfully infected Childs through saliva.
@DankApostle4 жыл бұрын
I think the Blacklight virus from Prototype would eat the Thing creature for breakfast.
@RoanokeGaming4 жыл бұрын
Might just straight do a video on the virus itself, it seems like an interesting concept
@DankApostle4 жыл бұрын
@@RoanokeGaming Essentially Blacklight is the Thing on Super Crack. It can absorb biological matter almost instantly, retain memories , maintain sentience and intelligence , it gains almost superhuman abilities and transform any part of it into any weapon it sees fit.
@Calvin.Hobbes984 жыл бұрын
I do love me some some SUPER CRACK!
@Luna_Spiritus3 жыл бұрын
@RoanokeGaming Oh! Do that! PLEASE???
@noahkline4263 Жыл бұрын
I wish to God Hollywood would make a Xeno Cinematic Universe with engineers, predators, xenos of all kinds, and these fucking things. Imagine a super predalien that gets absorbed by this Supercell and what that resulting biomass would be capable of. Chilling.
@RogueOfShadows0004 жыл бұрын
Since we’re here on the subject of alien parasites Roanoke, ever thought about covering the X parasites from the Metroid universe? Or the metroids themselves?
@thewanderer13174 жыл бұрын
That would be utterly glorious
@panthriskimyoshy4554 жыл бұрын
I love listening to these videos especially when you use scientific facts to explain. I had so much fun listening to this when I’m doing homework.
@connorvaughn64603 жыл бұрын
I always thought The Thing was a story about a heroic alien that saved antarctica from the Norwegians
@Lledra4 жыл бұрын
LOVE this! You did a great analysis and I'd totes support you doing more of these!
@JinzoTK4 жыл бұрын
Re-upload? Guess I need to re-watch... ... ... Get it
@RoanokeGaming4 жыл бұрын
pew pew pew, dad jokes for days lmao
@whiteface513abandonedchann84 жыл бұрын
No, I don't get it
@jabrilbryant58063 жыл бұрын
Child's most definitely succumbed to the thing. Listen to his dialogue and you can hear McReady scoffing at his response, knowing he turned into the thing.
@isleofdead13372 жыл бұрын
God the prop puppetry in the original is so beautiful, just so many layers to it and and truly a testament to 1980’s practical effects
@sarahelizabeth67136 ай бұрын
Now I want a prequel about the alien crew before they crashed the Thing into Earth...
@va_sirberpasir97084 жыл бұрын
Really tho, the amount of "the thing" mentioned, make it seems that word aint event real anymore
@merrickmiller12243 жыл бұрын
In some of the novella material you learn everyone was infected. Macready had a abberant factor in his assimilation where the Thing alien intelligence/personality was dominated by his own. Due to smaller biomass exposure.
@dr.richtofen88754 жыл бұрын
Hey Roanoke, would you cover a creature from a upcoming movie about an alien coming to earth via the Russian sattilate sputnik
@RoanokeGaming4 жыл бұрын
do you know what its called?
@dr.richtofen88754 жыл бұрын
@@RoanokeGaming the movie is called Sputnik
@chrismeyers59633 жыл бұрын
@@dr.richtofen8875 That was actually a pretty good movie too
@redshirtman19073 жыл бұрын
Having played the video game The Thing, I can tell you that it is Childs body that is found frozen to death at remains of the base and that it is MacReady's body that is missing. Weather that can be considered cannon or not is up for debate. If you haven't played the game I don't blame you, it wasn't the best.
@hbshadow89814 жыл бұрын
The crewmates in the movies after they know what The Thing is be like: "There is an imposter among us"
@ToriusHeart4 жыл бұрын
if only imposter could make more imposters...
@Peter_mikaelson3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping you were doing this thank you so much brother
@adityapandey77984 жыл бұрын
Wasn't this video uploaded already? What happened?. Also do consider doing silent hill series or carrion.
@RoanokeGaming4 жыл бұрын
Ive heard of carrion, might have to watch and it got copyright hit after like 4 months despite fair use clearly being at play. So rather than them take the work, I just reuploaded
@steelbear20634 жыл бұрын
@@RoanokeGaming Boss move
@RodWaffle3 жыл бұрын
@@RoanokeGaming yeah youtube forgets it's own guidelines when it comes to fair use
@flaurosdagon67994 жыл бұрын
That’s a lot of THINGS you said. Well done.
@mr.joesterr53593 жыл бұрын
What I have been wondering is if the thing ‘imitates’ everything perfectly, what would make it any different from a normal human? Shouldn’t it also possess the love and empathy that humans possess if it obtains our memories and neurons? What enables the thing’s to control cells to form spikes and whips? The thing somehow does not inherit our emotions or consciousness yet can imitate our neurons perfectly which to me might just be where we have to suspend our disbelief.
@Bob.Roberts2 жыл бұрын
That's just it though, it's still a alien cosmic monster that is pretending to be something/someone else. It imitates human behavior and emotions, but it does not (observably) possess those same traits. It kills others indiscriminately, though not with reckless abandon. It will even sacrifice others of its 'kind' if necessary. Everything it does seems to be geared towards a certain goal, and beyond theorizing, no one knows what the end of that ultimate goal is.
@countschnitzel89032 жыл бұрын
@@Bob.Roberts The goal would be feeding. It's a bio-mass accumulating apex predator. Whether or not it starts to, or already possesses human traits, apart from it's obvious intelligence, it wouldn't and it shouldn't make any difference. EDIT: If you were able to see a cow's whole life, would you decline to eat the burger made from it out of understanding and empathy? Answer is no, no you wouldn't. Why? Because you're empathetic to it's plight already (even without experiencing it's life, even just conceptually/intellectually), yet you still eat them. They're food. That's life and that's the food pyramid.
@Bob.Roberts2 жыл бұрын
@@countschnitzel8903 You believe the Thing's only goal is to eat? I'll admit that there's a certain charming simplicity to that idea, but I doubt the creature design boiled down to being another rendition of The Blob in the creative minds behind it, especially given its intelligence and abilities. I would say that eating and getting stronger is one of goals of any powerful predator, but certainly not its ultimate goal. As for the second paragraph, one might have a different conclusion if they had to consider a burger made from another higher intelligence lifeforms, like a human. Would you be more or less inclined to eat a burger made from a cow instead of a human?
@countschnitzel89032 жыл бұрын
@@Bob.Roberts The way I see it, the Thing is either a biological weapon or has naturally evolved to be this way, the result is the same. Since the ship crashed, it either broke trough containment or boarded the craft for a specific purpose(maybe a war) or even an unspecific one(chance discovery), either way the result is the same. The creature is going to try to take over the planet and build a ship to get off or is simply acting under a basic biological prerogative, either way the result(and in this case the method) is the same. The "second paragraph" was an apparently failed attempt to shift the perspective. For me and you it's no contest, we'd refuse cannibalism (unless there's no choice... all living things would and often do resort to it, including humans). But the Thing isn't committing cannibalism it's a different specie. The creature has crashed on an unknown planet, is completely isolated on an icy wasteland and it's way tougher than the "local fauna." The local fauna itself is its only possible source of nourishment. We give a lot of importance to whether or not something is sentient, but how important is that in such circumstances? Further, the original comment fails to consider that the creature may, in fact, inherit our emotions/consciousness or have its own equivalents from the start and still not really care, since it's not even from this planet. It is not a human, you don't have to suspend your disbelief or theorize much to reach the conclusion that it doesn't view/behave towards humans as a human would, regardless of its intelligence or sentience( or the humans' for that matter). And it certainly wouldn't feel compelled to die, out of some altruistic or sentimental principle, 'cuz muh' Eeeh-moooh-shun. You're both comparing apples and oranges, so to speak. That's my take.
@Bob.Roberts2 жыл бұрын
@@countschnitzel8903 Where did your first reply go? It's not in this list, as I see it, lol. Did you delete it? The OP was theorizing that since the Thing can imitate humans perfectly, why doesn't it just become "one of the boys" and live peacefully? It's an interesting idea, and worth a few thoughts, regardless of whether someone else thinks it's worth considering or not. From what I'm gathering here, your summation of the creature is that it's an alien, and regardless of what are guessing about its origins or motives, it's unimportant because it's an alien and doesn't think like us. I prefer to think there's more complexity to it than that, my take anyways.
@bulletproofrecon10822 жыл бұрын
At 09:18 when you said “when one of the team was biten on the leg” he wasn’t bitten. He got infected in the storage room when they bragged about getting a nobel prize and windows left him alone with the “dead” alien body to get the keys.
@shadowarez13373 ай бұрын
This just came back into my feed if I could I'd like again thank you for making this video on the best horror movie.
@kennethdesales38884 жыл бұрын
The When caught killing someone: It wasn't me it's cyan.. I'm doing task in med bay