Rock Island AL-9.0: Take 2

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[@JustinOpinionChannel]

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[@yamakawirodebike5710]

OK...2 part ? A- can you "single"load each 9mm round? IF not (have to use moon clips) then B- is the cylinder long enough to use 38super? Stay safe!!

[@bev8200]

Have you seen the Icarus precision aluminum 320 grip's. I think you should investigate.

[@bev8200]

Also thank you for the speed beez

[@seveglider8406]

Thank You for posting your reviews. I am trying to purchase a Rock Island AL 9.0 9MM Revolver. Do you know anybody who has 1 for sale? Thank You.

[@j.hotchkiss8368]

I purchased this 9mm revolver about a month ago, there are a couple of interesting things i have not seen on other revolvers, if you remove the grips there is a cammed screw on the right side of the frame that rests on the trigger spring making it adjustable from about 12 1/2 lbs down to 10 lbs ,4lbs single action not a lot but makes it feel much lighter and smoother. the second thing is the front cylinder stop built onto the ejector rod which moves forward when closing then snaps back and locks the front of the cylinder in place, I also found the moon clips work better than any speed loader I have ever used, I can reload almost as fast as replacing a magazine in my pistols .Great shooter, heavy 33.8 ounces, minimum recoil, adjustable rear sights dead on from factory.

[@seveglider8406]

I want too purchase this Revolver. Do You know anybody who has any for sale?

[@POPJack1717]

​@@seveglider8406Good luck they're hard to come across.

[@tyherndon1808]

3 other points of fact. the availabilty of 9mm and cost, ive always been able to get 9mm cheaper than 38 sp, and 357 mag, and 3rd point is if you want a revolver, semi auto pistol and lite tactical rifle/pistol and want 1 round for all . which has its benefits .

[@richarddegise6396]

Just happened along one of these guns at my local shop and sure glad I bought it. Thanks for the review.

[@red9man2130]

Justin I would also add my two cents here and say MANY of us who own a number of 9mm Semi-auto Pistols also like the ammo interchangeability as well. Furthermore 9mm is (usually) a very common and affordable round available almost anywhere in the World. I hope that RIA will import the .32 Caliber version of this Revolver as well.

[@Lylo-mj8ek]

Thank You for the Excellent reviews (1 and 2). Peace.

[@82luft49]

I just puchased the RIA AL9 from Classic Firearms for 515.99. I was very surprised that they had it in stock during these "out of stock" times. That the revolver is made in the Czech Republic sealed the deal. I own three Czech Republic guns, the 75B, CZP10 C and the CZ P10S, all excellently made pistols. By the way, I wouldn't use a screwdriver to extract the brass. Metal on metal finish is a no no. Instead use a #2 pencil with the rubber end to push out the spent casings,

[@dannydevito2275]

What about using the rim of one 9mm bullet to hook the others rim and pull it out?

[@zephrizi9034]

I own one of these and it's quite the fun revolver. Looking at the catalogue that came with the gun I noticed the company that makes the revolver also makes longer barreled versions, it would be nice if RI imports some of them one of these days.

[@robertmiller6524]

great video. i agree with you regarding speed beez products. i use speed loaders for all of my revolvers and the beez are the best.

[@Scarywoody]

I have that exact same hat. I have an Armscor M200 which is surprisingly good for the price.

[@VH_Rules]

I’m a fellow Speed Beez fan....super handy for loading and unloading. Good job on the take 2.....that’s a great little revolver 👍

[@diegomadera9700]

They don't show that they have this for this model gun on the speed beez website and I called their customer service which didn't answer and left a message w/ my # and they never called back. Is there some other model on the site that works with this gun or did they just discontinue the one with that works with this revolver? Thanks.

[@r1sabotage]

@@diegomadera9700 Did you ever get your answer, I'm in the same boat.

[@POPJack1717]

​@@r1sabotagefollowing

[@Channel_98.6]

Just got one. Did you notice the lockup mechanism? There is an enlarged portion of the ejector rod assembly that moves forward out of a matching recess in the frame to unlock, and then seats back in the recess when the crane is closed. It's hard to see. Extremely innovative, much stronger than any of the S&W versions (ball detent or front pin). I'm very impressed with this revolver. I like this so much I'm going to order some spare parts (springs and screws) if and while they're available. I have been looking around for specs (compared to S&W 66) for holsters.

[@spacesuitor]

Incredibly insightful. Thank you for the precise concise advice. 👍

[@JustinOpinionChannel]

Glad it was helpful!

[@BERETTA9mmUSA]

Good Shooting My Friend. I always like it when I learn something too. I do not have any 9mm Revolvers. Very interesting and looks like Low Recoil too... female shooters may like this type of revolver. Anyway, have a great day and stay safe out there. 🥳😎👊👍🇺🇸 Beretta Sr.

[@michaelblacktree]

I'd be interested in a 9mm revolver, just so I don't have to stock another type of ammo. Most of my pistols are 9mm.

[@JustinOpinionChannel]

That's definitely another plus.

[@anraegodley-cooper6321]

NAILED IT

[@glennprior6022]

Thanks Justin for an excellent review. Your style of presentation is very articulate and love the high def video. I'm waiting impatiently for the 22 mag version of this and am now shopping for the 9mm in 4.5 inch (Canada nanny state says nothing under 4.2). Can you comment on the felt recoil on the revolver vs a comparable weight semi auto? I have some wrist problems now and the semis don't work for me.

[@JustinOpinionChannel]

Thanks for the kind words. I'm not sure if they will offer this gun in a longer barrel or not. The recoil is fairly soft, in part due to the weight of the all-steel construction, and in part because there is no reciprocating mass. Good luck with the search!

[@seveglider8406]

@@JustinOpinionChannel Do You know anybody who has any of these Revolvers for sale?

[@milansekularac6196]

@12:54 it is more tricky than that I think. At 3" barrel length, the 357mag has only approx. 15% more kinetic enrgy than 9mm. To reach the velocity you listed you need a 4" barrel 357...

[@stevenkennedy4130]

Nice revolver! Just picked up the S&W M638 Airweight, myself!!

[@Channel_98.6]

Plus - the instructions describe how to adjust the trigger spring weight! I haven't tried that. Never heard of this on a revolver before.

[@babyblue8214]

I guess I just never understood the point of a 9mm revolver dealing with moon clips etc etc.. I'd take this in .38/.357 though!

[@loyp4328]

It's very easy and fast to reload, in a way that is more reliable than speedloaders.

[@bishopsteiner7134]

also, in a 2-3 inch barrel anyhow, the 9mm outperforms the 357, with less recoil, because the Magnum needs a longer barrel to burn up the powder. IDK about a 4 inch, would love to chrono it and find out. 6 inch? Yeah 357 for sure overtakes the 9mm. Tim over on Military Arms Channel did some nice chrono work demonstrating this. 9mm is designed to burn fast, and so is a lot more efficient in a short barrel. Also 357 percussion and flash out of a 4 inch barrel or less flat ass suck. 9mm is not great without hearing pro, but is miles better than a 357.

[@walliehart5975]

@@loyp4328 Combat proven . Clip is faster than a speed loader. 9 mm +p+ 124grain Winchester Ranger out of a 3" will do anything a 125 357 mag will out of a 3" . That's a nice piece. At about 1/2 the price of a SW 66 . Maybe even more quality. I like these ones.

[@Marvin-lt9ig]

Advantage of 9mm Revolver if you have 9mm pistols you only have 1 kind of ammunation to used

[@jalan8171]

For an affordable revolver that ejects 9x19 without moon clips the Charter Arms Pitbull is your wheel gun. Want to spend a small fortune, Korth offers one for $4000+.

[@simonsimon8572]

I oil the cylinders with a q tip on my 38spl and they slide right out

[@82luft49]

Another moon clip company is TK Custom. They are the leading manufacturer of moon clips making highly durable, tight long lasting clips. They even stamp the gun's model on the moon clip. Not cheap, but well worth

[@krypt7382]

The Speed Beez moon clip link you have in your first video is broken. The Speed Beez website does not list a moon clip for the Rock Island 9mm. Do you have any additional information on the availability of the clips?

[@cliffhouser9138]

I want one! Thanks for the review.

[@davidwhendricks6979]

Looks great. Nice job on ur video!

[@seraphim2525]

Digging that Quarantine Cut Justin😂 That's a neat little revolver, good review🖒

[@P-12]

The advantage I see to a revolver in 9mm or another pistol caliber ammo is, you don't have to buy a different kind of ammo if you want to shoot a revolver. What are your thoughts on the charter arms 9mm revolver, those ones don't use moon clips.

[@shadowwolf2524]

I've owned many guns over the years. Including 5 Charter Arms revolvers. 3- 38"s, 1-44 and a 22. All 5 had issues. I liked how they looked and felt. I really tried to like them. But everyone of them just were not reliable. After 5 failures out of 5, I gave up on Charters. My local shop does stock the Charters. But the salesmen I know that work there tell me several have came back very soon after being sold. That is just my experience with them.

[@MrMarkmac85]

looks to be a nice revolver Justin,I have the Charter Arms Bull Dog in 9mm so may have to look in to one of there Rock island Armory ones as well..Have a great weekend.

[@NonApplicable1983]

Wish this came in a nickel finish if not stainless steel. Always worried blued guns are gonna rust. Lots of humidity in the air.

[@normanmallory2055]

Good shooting .. I myself i use Speed Beez reloaders and have for several years now , they have always worked fine .. Moon clips make a nice compact package which are smaller than speed loaders .. You may already know this but right around 1999 Jerry M . set two world records using his revolver in 9mm with full moon clips .. First record was 8 shots under 1 second . 99 second .. The second record he set was 6 shots and reloaded with 6 more in 2.99 seconds using a full moon clip .. No shooter has came along to break those records as of yet ..Then he moved on to fire 8 rounds at 4 targets in like 1.2 something seconds .. I have not thought about a revolver with moon clips , i remember S&W produced revolvers for WWII in .45 acp and the ball ammo was loaded into half moon clips with each moon clip containing 3 rounds... My prime loads for revolvers are .357 mag and i use Speed Beez or HKS loaders .. I use the .357 brass and load my target loads in that case same as my mag loads .. No need to adjust my reloading dies back and forth between .38 spl and .357 brass... To be honest i have looked at the concept of a 9mm revolver using full moon clips ..I find it a great idea to own a 9mm revolver .. I just have not done anything as of yet .. but i find it appealing to own a 8 shot revolver ..

[@meshalmeshal1958]

مسدس برنو شيكي Cz vear good gun

[@capt.mike73ahoy14]

Those Checks do build some fine firearms, i.e. this revolver and the CZ lineup. I may have to shop for one today. Thanks for the informative review.

[@Mike-yy4ll]

Yeah, those Czechs from Philippines are real handy with tools...

[@dekir7663]

@@Mike-yy4ll Napravljen je u Češkoj a ne na Filipinima

[@bishopsteiner7134]

Good gun, good video. Do think blanket stating 357 simply outperforms 9mm is a bit misleading though. IDK in that length barrel the chrono readings, but I know Tim over at MAC ran Snubbie 357, 38 spec and 9mm, and out of the short barrel, the 9mm was king, with 357 needing a longer barrel to burn it's powder fully. So, in a 2-3 inch revolver, at least, I'd take the 9mm for comparable to better ballistics, for less recoil, and a hell of a lot less muzzle flash and blast. MACs numbers for comparison (from his Aug 3 2018 "9mm spanks .38 Special and rivals .357 magnum!" video): 125g American Gunner .357 from a S&W 340pd (1.875 in barrel) 1090 fps for 329 ft/lbs 124g Gold Dot +P 9mm from a Ruger SP101 (2.25 in barrel) 1163 fps for 372 ft/lbs admittedly, 1/3 inch shorter barrel, but I don't think that'll account for the dependency. But would love to see both out of 3 inch and 4 inch barrels.

[@Timber_LXG_5]

An ole timer who was a pistiol instructor told me, "if you have a nice 1911 and a double action revolver, every trigger is in-between those" this might be a good training device for 9mm guys

[@cz6301]

Justin - Did you get a chance to weigh the revolver? I have seen a BIG discrepancy between the factory listed weight and other reviews where they actually weighed it - like as much as 10 ounces! Am hoping it's not more than 30 ounces (for carry purposes) but doubt that I will find one I can handle before deciding to order it.

[@kenmyers3052]

Justin , Smith & Wesson Model 547 - 9mm K frame Revolver / Do History search on this Revolver ? In the late 1970's, the Israelis wanted to arm the Palestinian Police force with a 9mm handgun, but didn't trust them with an autoloading pistol. Instead, they wanted a simple-to-use a revolver chambered in 9mm (and by "simple-to-use", they meant "no-moon-clips"). They contracted with Smith & Wesson to make it for them. The price for these now will shock you on Gunbroker ... Check out Ruger speed-six stainless 9mm 2 3/4 with moon clips , also comes with short dual -rod pop out the cases ..

[@idessaoutlaw]

🌴 THE BEEZ NEEZ JUSTIN 😎👌🌴

[@jimc4931]

I saw in another video that there is an issue using reloads. Since I reload my own 9mm I'm wondering if that's a problem. Do you have any insight into any problems with reloads ? Thanks, Jim

[@slvalive]

Is it a good size for concealed carry?

[@bufalo9845]

Thanks for all your information, do you know any place to order?

[@2Aknight762]

Military Arms Channel demonstrated that a 9mm is much superior to a .38 spl in a snub nosed revolver and near equal to .357 magnum from a 2 inch barrel.

[@JustinOpinionChannel]

Tim does great work. I think I am saying very similar things here, based solely on ballistics data and general experience.

[@emiramick5305]

That's simply not true. While 357 does lose some power, it's still more powerful than 9mm out of 2 inch barrel. Many other gun reviews out there debunked Military Arms video.

[@invictawarrior]

@@emiramick5305 Nope it's just plain Not true. Claims and data are two different things. Tim Chrono-ed and put it to the test and for shorter barrels under 3" why the hell would you spend more on .357 rds. and get more recoil with less accuracy for negligible power? You wouldn't if you're smart about it.

[@glennsammon4465]

there are some 38 special rounds from Buffalo Bore and Double Tap ( and others) that clearly have the 38 spec coming out at 357 velosities. which is how we got the 357 in the first plce.

[@Gieszkanne]

@@emiramick5305 He didnt cheated. He just didnt took the hottest 357 Mag that you can get. And its not very practical to shot the hottest 357 out of a short light snub. This gives your tremendous blast noise and recoil. Even Buffalo Bore offer a low recoil low flash 357 load designed for snubs. They are 125gr and rated with 1106fps out of a S&W 340. So nothing more than 9mm. And with 9mm +p or even +p+ you could have slightly more power. 357 out of a snub doesnt male much sense.

[@PerfectNormal]

If I hold the gun up, will shells slip out? Or do if to finger them out one by one?

[@davidwhendricks6979]

Want to buy! Always wear gloves. No sweaty hands issues.

[@jannwnukowski807]

Justin. Can you please recommend a Leather Holster for this gun and would you recommend IWB. Carry. Please let me know. Thanks. Jann.

[@j.hotchkiss8368]

It weighs 34 & 1.8 ounces unloaded fantastic revolver.

[@johnparrish9215]

Question: Would this gun be a good candidate for chamber reaming to allow it to shoot 380, 9x19, 38 Super, and 9x23 Winchester???

[@OhioCruffler]

Very nice, thank you!

[@JustinOpinionChannel]

Glad you like it!

[@stevengrammont44]

Another good video , always enjoy yours.

[@JustinOpinionChannel]

Thanks 👍

[@xwing8029]

There was a test made with chronograph in military arms channel with snub nose revolvers. The bullet of 9mm had as much energy as 357 magnum in 2.5" or 2.25" barrel. The powder of 357 doesnt have enough time to burn and give bullet velocity in short barrels, so basically you get same ballistics as 9mm with huge recoil while using 357 in snub nosed revolvers. 357 magnum is best in longer barrels atleast 4" for visible difference. Thats why i think for consealed carry 9mm is better option, unless you will carry 4" or 6" barrel revolver.

[@GLOCKCOPG23]

You get MUCH higher weight bullets and penetration with .357 even in short barrels. The .357 is the better cartridge over 9mm all day every day.

[@xwing8029]

@@GLOCKCOPG23 There is already enough of penetration in 9mm to go trough a person and shot another.

[@showtime2629]

I had found with my taurus 905 that if I slam the butt of the grip against my palm the cases eject fine. Not with steel cases though.

[@122Music1]

.380 acp through a 9mm revolver will send a projectile through the cylinder , then passing into the bore. Questionable at best.?. Not sure... Great review though,as always!*

[@NonApplicable1983]

9mm is also a lot cheaper than .38 special or .357 magnum if you’re doing a lot of shooting.

[@ChainedxJester]

Which speedbeez option did you order?

[@ronaldhaas3533]

Order the Alpha Project Czech Point 92316 Shot moon clips from Speed Beez.

[@TollHammer]

2023 MSRP $999....kinda high, like Colt King Cobra high.

[@mikedee6173]

Are there aftermarket wood grips? That revolver would look sexy in wood.

[@glennsammon4465]

mmmm . BUT the recoil would be right up there with the 357 magnum round which is why most you can get a 125 grain Buffalo Bore "+P" load in 38 special that pretty much duplicates the 357magnum. and also from Double Tap as well as Corbon. the 38 special round IS more pwerfull than the 9MM. BUT the recoil would be up there on par with the 357 magnum. that, combined with alot of old guns out there is why most loads for the 38 special are more sedated. and that is really how we got the 357 magnum in the first place. a 9MM revolver has alot of use since it does not matter what the bullet profile is like, it will feed all of them some slightly out of spec rounds or handloads will have no problem running through a revolver. and one can load it down or up as well. taking advantage of cheap ammo prices ( when that happens again) and reusing the brass cases to handload. and yet , you still have something to have for self defense. and the moon clips are cheaper than speedloaders and magazines. and yet make reloading very fast. keep in mind there are some 9mm revolvers out there that hold 7 and 8 rounds.

[@davidgiles9751]

That comparison chart @12:45 says it all.

[@olibue3099]

very simple., so cute. i want that gun

[@georgesherron2549]

Are these revolvers available and if so where?

[@derekbotha9508]

Once or twice you fiired on an weapon, no flinch. Wish I could do that consistently.

[@willoutlaw4971]

How much does the revolver cost?

[@HonduDan]

A question, and I'm not busting balls, but why ALWAYS dry fire when you've emptied a cylinder on a revolver? I can tell you're fully aware that you fired all rounds, so what's the point of dry firing?

[@dsullivan6842]

I guess it's to assure safety and that all rounds are fired in case of a lapse of attention

[@nomikes4392]

He is an idiot. It is just a bad habit shared by others (Hickok 45). You are literally testing the gun to see if it is loaded by pulling the trigger. If you are wrong you ND. Granted he keeps the gun in a safe direction

[@HonduDan]

@@nomikes4392 I'm convinced Hickok does it just because he enjoys pulling triggers. I cannot speak ill of the man who brought me into the world of firearms.

[@calvinliong8319]

what if we change the ejector,? so that I will not bring moonclips anymore , is it possible?

[@edwinsalinasgallardo3423]

Awesome

[@jaycoffsky8979]

i hav been looking for this pistol for at least 6months. any idea where available. thanks

[@spartanj2957]

These days it's a lot easier to find 9 mm over .38 ,at least anywhere around me.

[@nightvan4427]

Hi, Sir Please shoot Ruger lcr 327 jast to me. I bought it but I have no friend and I don't know the area

[@Bobdixon_Moonvarga_Dancer_III]

Can it take +P ammo?

[@aussiedeplorable8670]

Why not just use 38's plus P in a 357 if you don't like the recoil of the magnum

[@joanao.virrey9036]

good shooting sir

[@crushthequarter6863]

"Availability and Cost" of 9mm..9mm is more available than other revolver rounds and much cheaper. In the event of world disaster...I am pretty sure you will have a better chance of finding 9mm compared to 38/357/44/32/380.

[@ruelroraldo9900]

Any one can answer is that available in Philippines?

[@Channel_98.6]

I ordered moon clips from Speed Beez. They sent a size that is much too large for this revolver.

[@ronaldhaas3533]

Order the Alpha Project Czech Point 92316 Shot moon clips from Speed Beez.

[@r1sabotage]

@@ronaldhaas3533 Thanks for the info, you're a life saver...

[@andrewmarsin8142]

Could it shoot +p ammo??

[@Gieszkanne]

I think even +p+ The frame is probably the same for 357 Mag.

[@modeamity]

9MM P+P vs 357 Mag?

[@dennishein2812]

I would never recommend any one shoot .380 out of a firearm made for 9 mm. I’ve see people get totally confused at the idea of a firearm shooting .357/.38 or .44 mag/.44 spec.

[@Martinbergin]

Great shooting,same impact every time,sights off slightly

[@MrNedsaabdickerson]

Where can I find one?

[@hansash2]

I got mine through Impact Guns website

[@JamesSmith-to7le]

Look I think if you have several guns in the same caliber then you only need one type of ammo .

[@gaparasm4834]

I want armscor Rack island back the 357 revolver

[@triggerman1092]

They are not moon clips...they are moon mags.!😉

[@geraldtakala1721]

How about a 9 mm magnum revolver?

[@Gieszkanne]

9mm magnum dont exist. 357 Magnum use 9mm bullets.

[@slumgullianpass]

It’s Czech so it’s got to be good.

[@capt.mike73ahoy14]

Make that Czech...

[@JustinOpinionChannel]

;-)

[@thereindeertherabbitthebat592]

Why buy a revolver chambered in 9mm? Bc revolvers are fun, that's why 👍

[@JustinOpinionChannel]

and then there's that!

[@peterwehrmeyer925]

Right 2 inches

[@SG__-gd1fy]

Io posseggo un alpha proj 3541 357 magnum molto buono

[@joshuadell3279]

When I checked the revolver was made in the Philippines

[@JustinOpinionChannel]

You're looking at the wrong model.

[@pray4mojo35]

The RIA 200 series are made in the Philippines. This is a Czech made revolver, made by Alfa.

[@ShahmeerNaqvi110]

After Watching This Video My Decision Without Moon Clip AL 9.0 9mm Pistol Creep Because After Fire Bullet Stuck & Built Inn Bullet Shell Ejector Doesn't Work

[@AKlover]

Who actually has these in stock?????? The gun not the moon clips?

[@AKlover]

@@nomikes4392 There is no stock in country when you can't even find on Gunbroker for 225% of MSRP.

[@ronaldhaas3533]

Order the Alpha Project Czech Point 92316 Shot moon clips from Speed Beez.

[@steverussell6642]

I have 4 357 magnums I want this 9mm to shot cheaper ammo.

[@diamondthomas7778]

I like a 38 more it's better to me

[@TwoWeekCowboy]

That's fine, but I 'm curious. What makes a .38 "better"?

[@DinoNucci]

RoaR

[@davidsawyer6003]

I would spend my money on another semi auto.

[@steenfuglsangjespersen8620]

Svety hands ha ha ha 🤣 🇩🇰 👎

[@t.c.a.3335]

I found 3 things very annoying... you kept repeating the same stuff over and over... you never showed how to unload using the moon clips... and dropping the hammer on an empty chamber after you've fired 6 rounds is either totally stupid, unnecessary and potentially dangerous if you can't count to six and just "snap" discharge an unexpected round... it's a bad habit...✌️

[@johnnymccann5607]

it is always a big plus to have a semi automatic and revolver the same if you reload your ammunition that’s giant plus. having been a reloader for over 41 years and much testing, learning this old dog can be taught new tricks. my latest journey is reloaded primers. and if you reload I’ll tell you what I do. some 9 mm pistols can be reloaded with 38 /357-358-355-356 dia bullets. in my cz 52 - 9 mm, Taurus c2 s, and my tough as nails hi point 9 mm , all these work flawlessly in each gun. so if you’re running low on9 mm try these bullets. load a magazine full, hand cycle each to see if it works properly. go shoot it rapid fire. if everything flawlessly , ya, your good to go . if you don’t reload and hurting for ammunition most reloader can help you out so . if you reload wouldn’t you want at least your immediate neighbors to help watch your back and him your back ? as hard as ammunition of any kind is to get and price gouged. at a local gun shop yesterday I bought a rock island mod 200 -38 special out the door 250 dollars with tax and well pleased with function ,accurate enough to shoot at a hood rat 50-60 yards. i noticed a sign 50.00 dollars for a50 round box of 380 acp jhp ammo. cheep price gouged ammunition. he ask if I needed ammunition for to feed the beast I bought. I said no I got plenty. I am blessed but many are not. I will help my neighbors, a good investment. nana and papa aka the hunter wishing you well.