Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - Sibling Rivalry

The first Star Wars spin-off movie is here! Does it live up to Force Awakens or is it as bad as the other prequels? Rob & Doug take a look at Rogue One.
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[@MrBamason]

I hate it when people comment just to get a response from the creator. Right Doug?

[@ChannelAwesome]

+Mr Bamason Nice try.....damnit!

[@DigiRangerScott]

Mr Bamason YES, I AM THE RIGHT DOUG

[@MrBamason]

Well... he replied.... *sarcastic comment loading* well, holy shit.

[@Shadowman4710]

well played sir. Well played.

[@MrBamason]

Fucking spammers.

[@RocketBot]

Dude, that Vader scene... :O

[@Vidaluko]

RocketBot D:

[@masterxl97]

Aside from "I am your father", it's the greatest Vader moment ever.

[@MusiColeMF]

He whooped the FUCK out of the Rebels in the end. And it was weirdly satisfying to watch haha I could've gone for about 5 more minutes of him kickin ass

[@MrDrewwills]

Then look up the extended universe stuff.

[@Khanemis]

So I wonder after seeing this scene would you dare to say to Vader "Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tape or given you clairvoyance enough to find the rebel's hidden fortress!" ?

[@ajzeg01]

The reason that Rogue One doesn't have a crawl is that the movie IS the crawl to A New Hope.

[@afonsolucas2219]

Let's watch the movie as a crawl, like playing up in space.

[@PanicbyExample]

that's like saying every sequel is just waiting to be trilogized into a crawl

[@afonsolucas2219]

It is.

[@PanicbyExample]

Afonso Lucas :) madness

[@afonsolucas2219]

Bryan McCormick You better believe it! :D

[@BoredOuttaMyMind]

I thought Tarkin looked very well. I think it's because we know the actor is dead that some might have noticed. And Darth Vader was BADASS!!

[@sharkquisha3407]

Mr. Scratch the movie was fantastic, The part where the rebel troops were trapped in the room with Vader and they just got cut down and thrown around.

[@BoredOuttaMyMind]

Ness Best put a spoiler warning there. Just as a precaution. But yeah, that scene! I don't think I have been that terrified of a character's presence before. It was unbelievable.

[@sharkquisha3407]

Mr. Scratch oh true, But i was afraid that the movie would pull a lot of punches when I heard it was having reshoots. But I like how the whole film was fighting and a lot of death. The deaths were not censored. So many Rebels, Imperial troops and officers getting blaster and thrown around and killed. It was what I wanted to see.

[@BoredOuttaMyMind]

Ness Definitely. I'm glad with about the death. It needed to happen. Made the sacrifices of both sides more powerful.

[@sharkquisha3407]

Mr. Scratch yeah and this proves that disney can serve star wars well without censoring the many brutal parts of star wars.

[@Cracken_]

My favourite character was the sassy robot. Was definitely the best character in the entire movie.

[@FlameOfUdun96]

SPOILERS One of the only characters whose death I actually gave a shit about

[@Mr.Spanish_94]

Flame of Udun I know. R.I.P. Jar-jar.

[@swishfish8858]

Flame of Udun - Add an extra line break next time, the first line of your spoilers are visible on mobile. :P

[@FlameOfUdun96]

Michelle Lehto will do, thanks for letting me know

[@harrisonknockers2038]

It's a toss up between him and Donnie Yen. He also had some good comedy lines and of course the Wushu was bad ass. I would like to see him and Ray Park together.

[@Tadicuslegion78]

Spoiler: Vader is Luke's father. Palpatine is Darth Sidious. There is another Skywalker

[@pablocontrerassanchez8111]

When people get upset at me saying that everyone dies at the end I think: really? Dude, the sequel to this came out 40 years ago.

[@emberleaf4768]

Han Solo dies.

[@franohmsford7548]

I think they did well in this movie in that all the way until what happened happened it seemed possible and indeed likely for at least some of these characters to somehow survive and carry on having their own adventures in the 3-4 years between The Battle of Yavin 4 and The Battle of Hoth or even the 4-5 years between Yavin 4 and The Battle of Endor. BUT For once I wasn't upset by the downer ending - It felt right! And I think you should let others have that feeling rather than spoiling it for them so they're expecting it - Yes it's too late in this conversation now but at least elsewhere have a bit of respect for other people's feelings eh. P.S. I deliberately avoid trailers for most movies I want to see these days, I stay well clear of IMDB, KZbin and other videos and critiques of Star Wars Movies until AFTER I've been to see them. Because I know I don't want Spoilers. Unfortunately many people haven't learned yet or they come across a spoiler somewhere they weren't expecting it.

[@Honre123]

DUDE SPOILERS!!1!

[@federico033]

Wtf dude!? You just ruined the surprise for everybody 😅😅😅

[@henryscott370]

In my opinion, the cgi Tarkin and Leia looked so damn amazing. Probably the most realistic we'll ever get to recreating dead or younger actors.

[@ajanaya8055]

Henry Scott *old

[@sebandrews4395]

Henry Scott Leila wasn't cgi, she was actually played by Carrie Fisher's (the original actor) daughter

[@DGilVids]

Henry Scott I thought young Hank Pym from Ant-Man was a bit better.

[@liam433jkld]

DGilVids well that had reference

[@willietconley3275]

+HorizonMC What were you smoking??? Leia was clearly CG. She was physically played by Norwegian actress Ingvild Deila and they CGI'ed her face.

[@Groypette]

Cgi Peter Cushing was impressive

[@Lazycow0]

yea i don't know what they are talking about, it was very good

[@dnksmkr]

Wow really, i thought it looked horrible, that seems to be the consensus from most people.

[@victorm152]

ashkatsup666 I wouldve preferred Charles Dance as Tarkin

[@Virishking]

Well my Dad thought it was a lookalike so it was definitely effective for some people. I personally agree with the Walkers that they looked great when they weren't talking but kind of fell apart when they did.

[@TheGgrrmanning]

Most impressive

[@masterxl97]

I think people giving the CGI characters crap is unfair. Of COURSE the'r not going to look real. Why would you expect that? It's impossible to perfectly recreate a person's face with computers. I think the fact that they did it as well as they did is amazing. And to be honest, they kinda had to. The characters they CG'd needed to be present in the film. It would have been very awkward were they not there because of how important they are. Even if it wasn't anywhere close to perfect, the fact that we got to see these characters practically (and in some cases literally) brought back to life in such a capacity is just plain incredible.

[@henryscott370]

I thought the cg Tarkin and Leia looked perfect.

[@masterxl97]

Henry Scott They looked about as good as they could. Expecting more is foolish.

[@ehcmier]

It's not an expectation. It's the brain snapping to a realization before any scrutiny is applied!

[@groovymovies390]

I think Movie Bob said it best, they need to keep using this technology and trying it out if we want it to get better in the future. Tarkin looked pretty good to me and I think the hate the CGI cameos are getting is undeserved.

[@culvernile2255]

Mon got a new actor, why not tarkin?

[@femmefuntime]

Am i the only one who liked the CGI Tarkin and Leia?

[@jamesquinonez3914]

I really liked it, tbh.

[@gannonschlader]

Leia looked good, but Tarkin was a bit distracting.

[@GwyndowsXP]

morgan megurine I thought it was great.

[@TheJrbdog]

I thought Tarkin looked great. Leia looked a little washed out though...

[@misscrackwood]

To me Leia was ok, we don't see her for long so it did the trick... Tarkin though really bugged me (but then again, my husband didn't even notice he was fake, so it might be because I work in the fx/animation industry that these kind of things irritates me easily!) I understand why they did it and I'm kinda glad they did, but yeah... It's too weird :/

[@parkergregg9386]

Also just bringing up my own opinion, but with this movie, while I love all the movies, this one made feel like this was more like a real war. Because both the empire and the rebels were kicking each other's asses in very badass ways. I like how [Spoiler Alert] the old empire is actually intimidating now. Saw what you will about the empire but let's face it, in the orginal films, unless darth Vader or emperor was in the scene, they sucked ass (Except on hoth, they did well but only because of the AT-AT's) but what I'm getting at here is that old storm troopers aren't a joke as much as they use to be. They were actually killing so many rebels and while the storm troopers would still get their asses kicked so easily as their original counter parts. One storm trooper got shoot 8 times and was still moving after every shop before it died. Some just shrugged bullets or after they fell down got right back up and started fighting again. One died still holding a grenade in his hand and still used it to kill the berserker guy with LMG blaster and friend of the blind guy. And the Tie fighters are way more accurate and constantly kill rebels easily. With this film I can fully believe that these storm troopers are in charge of keeping the galaxy in fear. (This also proved that most laser fire on storm troopers only knock them out at the very least or wound got a better term.)

[@batmanlaughed800]

I don't get what peoples problem with the orig trig empire is. In Star Wars there were three fighters and the falcon left out of thirty rebel ships. Storm troopers killed all the rebels on the blockade runner in the hallway. And burned Lukes family alive. But sure they suck. And let's see, leia yes shot, atat's shot Luke down, and he got hit in the Death Star battle in Star Wars. 3po got shot, Han got tortured, r2 got shot twice, and how many ships in the rebel fleet got whacked over Endor? Tie pilots were able to keep up with Han through the asteroid field, and more than a few were able to chase the fleet through Death Star 2. You might want to try watching the movies instead of listening to stormtrooper and red shirt jokes. Unless your Han, Lando, Wedge or Chewie the empire did a number on all the main characters. Oh no wait, wedge got hit and had to pull out of the Death Star battle.

[@parkergregg9386]

Can we at least agree that they have improved?

[@batmanlaughed800]

Oh and did you miss the fact that stormtroopers on the beach, in full armor, were getting punched out, and knocked out by blows to their helmets with a stick and rile butts? The only one that made sense was the tasering one got from Baz.

[@parkergregg9386]

Really I thought it was impressive when one stormtropper was held by the blind guy and was shot 7 times in chest and still moving after every shot. Just because they are loosing doesn't mean you don't miss the small details.

[@batmanlaughed800]

Yeah it was nice to see the armor serve a purpose, and not wonder why a shot to the leg would take one out of the fight. Anyway, improved would mean they got better after the rouge one time frame. But I get what you're saying, I just don't see the stormies as the screw ups everyone jokes about. They are clearly a force to be feared no matter the era.

[@CommentPoster10]

"I thought this was America! I want my fucking crawl!"

[@sleepyparadise8846]

Really 2016 you're gonna take the crawl away from us??? First harambie now this?!

[@OkayYaraman]

Let's build a crawl! Make Star Wars great again!

[@wwb16]

am i the only one who thought the CGI tarkin was well done?

[@thesatellite54]

I thought it was an actor with great makeup at first. Honestly I thought it was incredible.

[@GwyndowsXP]

Will Brock As soon as I saw him I thought "oh cool, they got the real Tarkin... wait a minute..."

[@helixcd5625]

I didn't even realize he was CGI, I thought it was a look alike actor but the second one was a slap in the face in regards to how obvious it was.

[@bingo7831]

I got scared by it, I didn't know if it was real or not and I started comparing it with the real actors in the movie.

[@skepticalbaby6912]

Will Brock I thought it was amazing. They really threw everything into making it look great.

[@QShaque]

Im with doug on this one. The credit crawl should be limited to the "episodes" imo.

[@bucwhovian8305]

I thought it was a bit of a cock teases that it did say "A long time ago" at the start, you can't have that and not have the Star Wars theme right after!

[@LittleIslander100]

I agree with him in theory... but this is a film that felt like it needed it. There was a ton of exposition here, and you could've put it into the crawl.

[@ChakatStripedfur]

I actually agree with Rob on this one, I wanted my damn Star Wars crawl. True, the movie was kick-ass by itself, but I still wanted the crawl for nostalgic reasons. I kind've agree with you, QShaque, the 'Episodes' are where it really needs it, but I would've just liked to see the crawl in there at the beginning. It even had the whole "A long time ago" thing, so why not have the crawl too?

[@thx1085]

QShaque yeah but remember the clone wars movie? It wasn't really an episode but it had the crawl That's the best part of starting the movie in theaters the music the title it's orgasmic

[@bucwhovian8305]

thx1085 the clone wars did not have a crawl.

[@Crashpunk]

Comparing it to Tron Legacy with CGI Tarkin is almost an insult. Technology has really advanced since then and I thought they did an amazing job. The guy who did the voice was SPOT ON.

[@shame3857]

The whole movie was great. But I could just spend the rest of my life watching the Vader scene at the end over and over again.

[@DanPantzig]

Not the first Star Wars spinoff movie. There were those horrible Ewok Adventure movies and, everyone's favorite, the Star Wars Holiday Special. Also Clone Wars.

[@attilapataki46]

Dan Pantzig! rebels too

[@DanPantzig]

Rebels wasn't a movie, but yeah sure why not.

[@DFTNSHEXGRM]

ET's alien race is seen in one of the prequel movies. Since the prequels are canon - technically that makes ET a Star Wars spin-off film!

[@DanPantzig]

Good call.

[@Marveryn]

but that mean somehow yoda face end up as some kid face during h ollyween.. oh i got a headache

[@EvelynnEleonore]

I'm with doug on the story crawl thing: It let me know immediately that this wasn't going to be a space opera, but something different.

[@42Caio]

Rob really annoyed me with this. I don't get why some people want every single star wars thing to have the same visual ipresentation when that isn't really necessary.

[@Rob-uj5qc]

what would the crawl be anyway? The death star is being built Death star bad WE need to destroy it

[@ArgoIo]

I'm not a fan of Star Wars and this "iconic story crawl" is one of the reasons why...

[@culvernile2255]

even the damn Xmas special had the crawl.

[@wordforger]

See, I was a little surprised at the lack of story crawl at first, but then I came to appreciate it because, rather than tell us what's going on, the filmmakers opted to SHOW us, which ended up making for a much better film overall.

[@redmensch101]

Vader was fucking merciless in this film and I loved it. Also his castle was based off of Mcquarie's paintings and concept art.

[@afonsolucas2219]

McQuarrie is still influencing Star Wars movies even after his death.

[@oneopinion6806]

I liked Vader's treatment as well, except for the choke pun. Dark Force powers shouldn't have puns, lest the start to feel Mr. Freeze-y. Perhaps instead he could have said something akin to "remember this feeling. If you lose focus again it will be the last thing experience." (only, like much better) rather than a rimshot joke.

[@ph89787]

This wasn't the first time we see Vader being sarcastic.

[@oneopinion6806]

Unless you're talking HC mullet man then timeline-wise it is the first time. Glad to see even though Vader spends his days soaking in a bacta tank in a villain castle on (Mustafar?) lava planet that he has gotten back on the quip horse he fell off as of the Episode 2.

[@maxxdahl6062]

No, not the first time. Vader choked out a captain in Empire and quipped "Apology accepted, Captain Needa."

[@captaintaco2345]

Darth Vader just wrecking shit at the end was amazing.

[@vivir339]

Spoiler Alert: They get the plans for the Death Star.

[@sananaryon4061]

the blind guy was not a jedi, nor worked for them. He was a member of the Guardians of the Whills, an order that worships the force. He's not force sensitive

[@leaf0nthewind625]

August Giæver Then explain how he knew Jyn had a kyber crystal necklace despite the fact she was hiding it, and how he knew the Captain was going to kill her father?

[@bubermarcus8607]

He uses the force multiple times in the movie. To quote the villain "ARE YOU BLIND!?"

[@sananaryon4061]

Leaf0nthewind It's confirmed that he can't use the force, which is the standard meaning of force sensitive, however he may be entuned with the force, meaning that ha can feel it, but not use it like a jedi or sith would

[@bubermarcus8607]

That doesn't make any fucking sense. He can sense and feel the force, so he's force sensitive. But he isn't?

[@SegataSam]

people can be sensitive to the force but not be a Jedi/Sith (eg. Leia). You're right, Chirrut is force sensitive. He could feel the force and have some influence over it, but was not able to 'use' it in the common sense of being able to move objects, etc.

[@Obsidius]

I can't be the only one who saw the shield with a single opening on Scarif as a nod to 'Spaceballs'.

[@vitamindubya]

Obsidius woah true!

[@brandonthompson8640]

they should have just used the code. ya know, 1 2 3 4 5

[@electricdevil2422]

That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage!

[@lokithedriver]

Gareth Edwards movies always start slow but end great.

[@pablocontrerassanchez8111]

And just like in Godzilla, everyone entered the cinema expecting to see a lot of the title monster (This time around it was Darth Vader, eeeven if he was never told to be a central piece character, and he got a whole trilogy dedicated to him) and got only a few minutes, but man, what we got was awesome! And Rogue One is a lot better than Godzilla, by the way. I now respect Gareth Edwards a lot more, give this guy a chance to direct all the movies.

[@pablocontrerassanchez8111]

The Ancient one Which isn't less. I think this is the best-looking Star Wars movie since Empire. The cinematography is just pure awesomeness.

[@witnessme4352]

This is true. I thought that Edwards's Godzilla was decent but forgettable. Rogue One was a classic, and I think that Gilroy, who wrote the original Bourne Trilogy, had a large part to play in it. I'm glad they got him to replace the dreadful Chris Weitz.

[@figmentofyourimagination5514]

Spoilers/ no spoilers?

[@ChannelAwesome]

+FigmentOfYourImagination No Spoilers

[@1048Kane]

Theres nothing to spoil its literally what happens right before new hope. Everyone dies as expected.

[@meatbyproducts]

If you saw the trailers you saw the movie. Nothing to spoil.

[@miaria2049]

TB.PF I think that Channel Awesome means that everyone knew where the plot was going.

[@Nick_Hammer]

han solo dies...

[@MrCaptnrex]

somehow I am not suprised you guys complained about the cgi

[@HuntSD]

Captain Gaming I honestly thought it was not even CGI. It surprised me when it was.

[@MrCaptnrex]

HuntSD yeah, when I saw tarkin i thought he LOOKED like tarkin, when I saw leia it was good but in my mind I thought she had a less chubby cheek face so I automatically knew cgi, thought she may of looked that but I haven't seen the originals in a bit lol.

[@mysite1012]

Captain Gaming Tarkin was awesome. He gave me chills at the end when he said, "You may fire when ready"

[@Tareltonlives]

Fucking hipsters

[@PubliusAfricanus]

You have terrible eyesight.

[@fotzegamingandmedia1840]

Will the Nostalgia Critic review Rogue One like he did with The Force Awakens?

[@pablocontrerassanchez8111]

Yes he will, and Chris Stuckmann will co-star (a crossover I am definitely looking forward to).

[@fotzegamingandmedia1840]

José Pablo C. Sánchez REALLY?! Where did you find THAT out?

[@pablocontrerassanchez8111]

Folklorebrony Check out Chris Stuckmann's spoiler review for Rogue One. He gives it away at the end.

[@morgankingsley4992]

Look at the last minute of Chris's spoiler review

[@fotzegamingandmedia1840]

José Pablo C. Sánchez AWESOME

[@gamingeagle19]

Yes it was the obligatory 3PO and R2D2 cameo but it had a reason too you missed. Spoilers: They are getting aboard Leia's ship when it gets rerouted to Sharif hence his they never tell me anything line.

[@movierates247]

Chess RedEagle oh I didn't think of that

[@donbirkinshaw2014]

Chess RedEagle thought that if R2d2 and c3po was with liability at the end it would I'd worked better other then them being on the planet in the middle of a war field it looked out of place an duck me out of the story I was there invested I the third act and then they randomly cut to them to for no real reason other then oh look it's R2d2 and c3po and that's it and it tuck me out of the movie for a second. If it was limited to the end with princess lia as they should be it would of worked much better other then just throwing them in their for no reason

[@DigiRangerScott]

ROGUE ONE NOSTALGIA CRITIC REVIEW COMING SOON WITH CHRIS STUCKMANN AND BRAD JONES

[@BugVlogs]

Can this please become a reality? =D

[@DigiRangerScott]

Ryan Grille Watch the last 40 seconds or so of Chris Stuckmann's Spoiler portion of his Rogue One review

[@BugVlogs]

!!!!!!!!

[@TheCheapskate678]

Wait what? Chris and Doug in a Nostalgia Critic review is already great enough but Brad is in it too? Holy shit! The Critic and Cinema Snob are gonna get Stuckmannized? Are you assuming that Brad is gonna review all the recent Star Wars movies now since he did The Force Awakens review with Doug or did Brad announce it in Midnight Screenings?

[@DigiRangerScott]

Donald Mcloud Brad said he was going to Chicago to film something soon. Chris announced he was flying to Chicago to do an NC Rogue One review. I gotta assume Brad is too

[@danielmashanic5738]

I thought it was ok. Felicity Jones bored me to death.

[@ChrisJones-nk8ti]

Daniel Mashanic totally right!!😴😴😴

[@jaba9397]

The last 10 minutes are DARKER than Empire.

[@jaba9397]

lol yes

[@neitherhereorthere7131]

ja ba no it's not lol

[@Gooberpatrol66]

adam fletch You don't consider slasher film hacking to pieces, all the main characters being shot or vaporized to be darker than ESB?

[@Prof_Tickles92]

Empire wasn’t that dark

[@StunningSteve]

I enjoyed the subtle things on Vader like the red eyes on the mask and his chest plate not lighting up just like in a new hope!

[@FlameOfUdun96]

SPOILERS Am I only one who couldn't get invested in most of the main characters? I felt nothing when they died, apart from K-2SO :/

[@swishfish8858]

I dunno, I really loved Chirrut and his bodyguard.

[@FlameOfUdun96]

Michelle Lehto They were ok, but I didn't really know anything about them, aside from their former occupations and their mutual friendship. I wish they got more development.

[@swishfish8858]

Flame of Udun I guess I wasn't looking at them as "characters in a film" as much as I was looking at them as "characters in the Star Wars universe that decided to hitch along". I'm not really seeing these side films as big stories, more as glimpses through a window into the universe I love so much.

[@FlameOfUdun96]

Michelle Lehto So you were just looking for world building with this movie? In that case, it delivered, as well as a ton of fan service/references lol

[@swishfish8858]

Flame of Udun Basically. And that's exactly what I loved about it.

[@sideshowmo653]

I loved Rogue One. My favorite star wars film since Empire :) Awesome characterization, great action, deeply emotional moments that almost made me cry :)

[@DeadPixel7]

Leia: "I'm a member of the Empirial Senate on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan." Vader: "Please, I saw you leave the Battle like 10 minutes ago."

[@jayshanahan7454]

Anyone else laugh at the pun Vader made

[@pablocontrerassanchez8111]

How awesome it is to actually have a Darth Vader one-liner moment?

[@EricTheKartoonKing]

Jay shanahan At first it really annoyed me. Then I remembered that Vader has always had high levels of sass, ever since ESB. It was completely in character.

[@reggiepark3155]

I never thought I'd live to see Vader deliver a sick burn to someone, but here it is, and I fucking loved it!

[@MLennholm]

+Reggie Park You've never watched Empire Strikes Back?

[@Acafer84]

what was the pun?

[@kinglegault]

the main villain hams it up so much and God bless him for it

[@VenomSnakeMGS]

Holy FUCK. The ending was INCREDIBLE.

[@risingofthethorn1197]

The droid is the closest thing we will get to HK-47

[@austinames9340]

It was AMAZING for me. Edwards took what was amazing from Godzilla and Monsters, and multiplied it tenfold, as well as improving on the common criticisms like underdeveloped characters.

[@graymyers]

It's a really great fan film. I liked that we got to see a shadier side of the Rebellion. Great third act, I mean I'd pay money just for Vader.. but I've seen reactions that this is a GREAT FANTASTIC movie, but I feel people are confusing the last 10 minutes with the whole movie.. PS the truly did reshoot half the movie it seems haha

[@motor4X4kombat]

Grayson Myers its really strange because disney make those reshots because the orinal didn't felt like a star wars film and more like a war film. even thought at the end it felt more like a war film than a star wars film

[@Virishking]

I'm pretty sure that it was established already in the new canon comics or something but (SPOILERS) that is Mustafar that Vader is on, confirmed by Lucasfilm. I just need to point out how great of a detail that is. Its the location of Anakin's rebirth as Darth Vader which came at the cost of his greatest failure in which he lost Padme, Obi-Wan, and his child (as far as he knew). Just imagining him spending all his time away from missions in a dark empty tower on that site, stuck in a life-support suit or a medical chamber meditating and ruminating on that; fact angry, resentful, and increasingly numb to the outside world really helps to bridge the gap between the Vader at the end of RotS (NOOOOOOOoooooo) and the Vader we all know and fear.

[@TheMojaveLamp]

Vader's rebel-slaughter scene made me legitimately terrified ._.

[@rbstephensclan]

I thought the CGI with those two characters was well done.

[@arn_ice]

Carter Stephens I agree, and I think most will. But it's also simply hard to hide a very well done cgi human amongst real human actors. That said, agreeing with James Rolfe (AVGN). Seeing Peter Cushing again, and Tarkin also highlighted the scope and might of the Empire. Non-spoiler but the casual way he makes hugely devastating decisions. The Empire really feels big and with competent and powerful military (imo, the troopers were really good, of course gonna die against the heroes but the finally get red shirts to shoot at). I reallu like this film.

[@rbstephensclan]

Arn-Ice No body can say its worse than the other prequels.

[@PanicbyExample]

me too, especially considering how much 'face time' tarkin got... it could have been absolutely terrible... at worst, mildly distracting and made worth it by virute of how critical of a presence he plays... i mean shit, the holograms are cgi, why can't a 40 year old reappearance be

[@giovanniorellana2200]

I'd be willing to bet that this video will be trending on KZbin just like their Ghostbusters video

[@truwho82]

I honestly thought the CGI faces were amazing. Tarkin in particular was awesome for me. It captured Cushing very well.

[@truwho82]

Well, maybe not the Leia face xD

[@neitherhereorthere7131]

truwho82 agreed and was awesome to see Peter Cushing again!

[@TMmodify]

Tarkin was really well made but Leia looked like a bean that looks like the The Leader in the simpsons.

[@Zerath0]

The CGI`itself was fine, the voice kept throwing me off in every scene.

[@aarononeil9832]

The prequels undid a lot of Vader's intimidation factor, and over time he's become almost antiquated and somewhat overshadowed by other villains. That scene... that shot him right back up to the top, that is one of the best villain scenes I've seen in years. It took Gareth Edwards about a minute to make Darth Vader terrifying again.

[@dylanhumphrey3720]

Never thought I'd see Vader doing force choke puns.

[@argelisplanchart9438]

In my personal taste I preffer Rogue One over TFA any day.

[@victorm152]

I agree with you guys. it's good but not not great

[@pablocontrerassanchez8111]

It is pretty good and close to great. I think I'll need to see it a second time in order to really judge it. What it lacked was a strong lead.

[@mysite1012]

Victor M the first half is shit. Once they hit Scarif, that's when I got sucked in.

[@RyanKaufman]

I agree about the first half being entirely useless. Frankly if the ending wasn't so strong more people would be saying it's shit. I don't see how people can possibly say it's the best Star Wars film, even second best. Out of the now 8 films, 4, 5, and even 7 are better films. Rogue One has no strong protagonists, the antagonist is weak (though Darth Vader was never cooler - I wish he was the focal antagonist) and the plot itself is asinine. Outside of "Get the schematics for the Death Star" the shit they pull in the film is just stupid. I love Mads but his character was a bunch of nonsense. Nobody was regulating the kidnapped scientist developing the GIANT planet destroyer? He can just put in a stupid easy flaw to exploit? Regardless, the movie is saved by the ending battle, which was fantastic. Mainly because we didn't have to sit with our worthless protagonists for the bulk of it. The side characters easily steal the show. I'd give it a 7/10. Worth seeing but I can't possibly understand how people need to see it multiple times in theaters.

[@mysite1012]

RyanKaufman I'd see it multiple times for the ending

[@RyanKaufman]

my site I'm looking forward to having a 1080 rip of the ending Vader scene. That alone was just fuckin' cool.

[@Tamlinearthly]

But what would the text crawl even say? All of the contextualizing information we already know from the original film.

[@dafuqimmadoing8806]

It's not a problem that the text is not there. It's just weird, not bad.

[@pablocontrerassanchez8111]

I think the first act was the open crawl :P

[@LittleIslander100]

There was a lot of exposition in the beginning, that could've been put there. That scene where the Rebel Alliance first talks to Jyn? Put some of that in there.

[@lunamalfoy7]

I was actually saw Doug and his dad while me and my friends were waiting for more people in the lobby. I asked my friend if I should go up and say hi, and she said no and we should let them have a normal time at the movies.

[@rogvortex58]

Tamara is going to play Jyn in the review, isn't she?

[@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control]

She goddamn better.

[@batmanlaughed800]

Nah it'll be Doug in drag. Tamara will not watch the movie so she can do another THNS video.

[@GrayWoIf]

Not gonna lie the crawl less intro left me a bit disoriented.

[@ashtonwhitaker5625]

GrayWoIf I wish they stopped the crawl for the rest of the 'Films' (Mains included) as well.

[@GrayWoIf]

Jarkko Väänänen You don't like I feel at times they go on for too long like get to the point but they're so iconic

[@masterxl97]

It was VERY distracting. The ending was super abrupt, too. There was no music swell, it just kinda cut off. I literally jumped in surprise when the credits showed up. It was a good point to end, it just could have used some more fanfare.

[@ashtonwhitaker5625]

GrayWoIf I always felt it was treating the audience as fucking morons who needed things literally spelt out for them. Good riddance to them, and I wish they would scrap that awful theme song along with it as well.

[@bucwhovian8305]

Just wondering, did The Clone Wars have a crawl?

[@Prof_Tickles92]

Jyn's depth was conveyed in her nonverbal moments. Like when she meets Saw as an adult and the camera focuses on her Felicity conveys just how much pain Jyn is in and how lonely and meaningless her life is.

[@jonathanhall5836]

I didn't go into the movie with the knowledge that Tarkin's actor was dead so I thought it was a look alike. When I learned that he was CGI my mind was blown.

[@Changeling9000]

You can't have a Star Wars movie without C-3PO and R2-D2.

[@sandrosliske]

Well it's a good thing they were in it.

[@mupty]

They were in it for like literally a second and you don't even see their faces. I'm surprised they didn't make an additional appearance in the ending scene.

[@mauriciobetimpaesleme8702]

Seriously, they were pointless and distracting. **Kind of spoiler but not really** Put them on the ship by Leia's Side with no lines. Just there, for fans. That was one moment that I as a fan did not like. I loved Gold leader, Red Leader, Red Five, etc. They actually had a point being there.

[@Acolyte47]

I suspect they were added after the reshoots.

[@kenisu-of-dragons5766]

We find out the reason why the Deathstar was easily destructable. What's Starkiller Base's excuse?

[@JunYah7]

That is what Rogue Two is for. Lol.....

[@HannibalHanslaughter]

Darth Vader living in that castle just makes me picture him telling an interior designer how he wants his living room to look really dark and gloomy and with fire and lava everywhere to reflect his tormented soul ^^

[@Grievousish]

Best CGI face i've seen is Michael Douglas at the beginning of Ant-Man

[@princessroxas1]

Rogue One or Krennic & the terrible, horrible, no good very bad day

[@zombieariel6041]

Honestly, this is the best Star Wars move for me since the Empire. I really think they set the standard for the new trilogy.

[@JamesRDavenport]

Rob Walker is beside himself with love for the darkest Star Wars movie to date? What a shock! ;)

[@sokka44]

i really liked Krennic, you guys were right on, poor krennic nothing goes right for him 😂

[@wanpakudanpu]

Saw Gerrera stole your line in this movie.

[@sokka44]

wanpakudanpu it was a nice attempt by him. but he miscalled it, and he needed a little more intensity. good effort though

[@ZombieChimpanzee]

he's just getting shit on the whole time. he's got his boss, and his boss's boss breathing down his neck, telling him to get stuff done and then taking away either resources or authority to get his job done. his underlings all start either betraying him or simply acting incompetant. he's just got nothing going well for him that week. and to top off all that he's killed by the weapon he oversaw the construction of. all in like a freaking week from the look of how time passed in this movie.

[@emberleaf4768]

This movie was so sad.

[@ihateloudbitches]

I kinda liked the blandish characters to be honest because it shows that the rebellion is based on the lives of relatively normal people who are thrown into a shitty situation as opposed to some chosen one badass character like luke or anakin. also the fact that it's relatively normal, unknown people who create the opportunities for the more mythological heroes of the franchise to make their claim to glory

[@teejaykaye4357]

randmazn honestly same? If the movie had tried to write big charismatic Star Wars-esque space opera characters it would've ruined the tone of the film. These people are the unsung, forgotten heroes. They're just the soldiers, the people who fought and died. Nothing less and nothing more.

[@frozenaorta]

First things we said upon exiting the theater: last third of the movie was ridiculously good, and the main two characters were bland and forgettable. Every single review I've read or watched has echoed that. Even still, I recommend it. Good fun. Great droid!!!

[@frozenaorta]

Oh, and post watching: Peter Cushing and the "other character" do not look that bad CGIed in. It's actually well done. It's only his voice that's off. And yeah, Vader at the end is the most badass Vader has ever been.

[@Zoxan96]

Ok, am I the only one who thinks the planetary shield is an homage to Spaceballs?

[@bigbrexitdad879]

I think this one is just as good if not better than empire

[@bucwhovian8305]

How can you know that when it's only just come out?

[@bubermarcus8607]

Buc Whovian Because he watched it. And I don't know man... I mean I love it a lot more than EP 4,6 and the prequels but... I don't think it'll take Empire off my list just yet.

[@bucwhovian8305]

Buber Marcus But only the once, how many times have we seen Empire by now, it's just way too soon to say thing like that!

[@bubermarcus8607]

It's his opinion man, get over it.

[@bucwhovian8305]

Buber Marcus get over what? The fact that you can't really say things like " it's better than Empire" at this early stage? I was never NOT over that. It's other's that need to face up to that fact.

[@EtherealMaiden]

Ironically I just came out of Rogue one just to play this video😂

[@Godzillakingofkaiju1]

This is what I love about Gareth Edwards. He has a slow buildup but the payoff is well worth the wait and he certainly delivers!

[@daric_]

"Oh, shit! They created a paradox!" That had me rolling.

[@BIadelores]

I really disliked that there was literally ZERO character development in the whole movie, but it was pretty fun The darth vader scene was all kinds of HYPE

[@henryscott370]

Its hard to develop characters that have to be introduced and die with the space of 2 hours...

[@pablocontrerassanchez8111]

That's true. All of them were expendable. Be thankful that we got at least a fistful of them being memorable (Chirrut, K2SO, Cassian...).

[@Robin_Glader]

Watch the movie again. Jyn, Cassian, Baze, Bodi even K2-SO has clear character arcs.

[@BIadelores]

Robin Glader The only one with something resembling an arc was the main guy with a beard who has been doing this since like he was 6 or something. He went from killing people just because to... Not killing people just because. I guess that's something, I guess.

[@pablocontrerassanchez8111]

Robin Glader Now that you point that out... I do see the arc for the character of Baze. He was this kind of Force-atheist dude who, at the end, and having witnessed the fate of his best friend, changes his mind completely and gives himself to the Force. Pure poetry.

[@System509]

Yeah, Vader got pretty fucking scary at the end there.

[@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind]

I think the CGI perceipton is very individual and subjective. I was just blown away by it. Blown away how far we've come.

[@theindifferentindividual1106]

I thought CGI Leia was amazing, really well done. CGI Tarkin was good but he looked on and off to me, he'd look real but then he'd look like a video game. But still nice movie

[@l.tc.5032]

that's cause CGI Leia wasn't CGI it was a lookalike actress

[@theindifferentindividual1106]

L. T C. oh, that's cool

[@orbitalchiller]

Blame that on animators, they don't always know when shits have to stop moving.

[@getmario64]

I've seen "Rogue One: A Star Wars Movie" and it was great spinoff that relates to "A New Hope." I found it more interesting than "Revenge of the Sith" and don't get me wrong, the third prequel film does create a more focus that I want to know what happen and sometimes its a bit too clunky in few parts. However, this one was more focus and that should've been done so good. The whole premise is like group of Rebel spies were planning to sneak into the Empire's hidden location, and they're going to steal Death Star blueprints before it will bring a "New Hope" to destroy it. Easy step for making a good spinoff which I can see it more. The characters were fun, and I'm pretty sure you didn't seem impress Felicity Jones and Diego Luna, but they worked out very well. I guess I found Jyrn Erso is more relatable strong woman than whatever the Star Wars fans didn't like Rey. I think she's very good. Wonderful action scenes and it does bring it back to make more epic like "Episode VII" did, but this groundbreaking war scenes were so cool including the ending was more stronger. All of these scenes that kept too much references, and I'm glad Darth Vader was here in his first spinoff screen time. They probably made Tarkin and Leia into their younger faces which it reminds me like they design to them since "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" or putting real Paul Walker face in "Furious 7." Which can be work sometimes. I'm glad I saw this and it was pretty awesome. Sometimes the middle is a little low, but they're quite fantastic performances that they work out very well, which finally make it so good. Good review bros.

[@getmario64]

One more nitpick for this setup if any ANY Star Wars fan can find out...If the Death Star can use their target to destroy any planet that it can blow up few seconds, how come they use their target for just one little low blow while the planet goes through the layer like a Earthquake? Didn't see that part from "A New Hope?"

[@TeamTowers1]

They explicitly say that they aren't firing it at full power. They don't even destroy the planets they fire it on. As Tarkin said, "we need a statement not a manifesto".

[@PanicbyExample]

i wasn't enjoying tarkin explaining it away as less than full power, except that does explain how imwe asks about what happened to the planet and it has to be explained to him a couple times that the weapon effected the whole planet as opposed to obi-wan feeling millions of voices suddenly crying out

[@death-king1834]

It makes sense for the Dark Lord of the Sith to have his own Dark Tower. Can't be a Dark Lord without a tower or castle.

[@MrNelg19]

When they were talking about the fact that there was no text crawl, don't forget that the Ewok movies had no text crawl.

[@Aziraphale686]

I thought they were saving the opening title crawl for the "main line" movies, which makes total sense imo.

[@afonsolucas2219]

They are!

[@MaJuV]

Still, as Rob said; They do it as well for most video games (if not, every video game). So why not in spin-off movies. It's part of the brand by now :-(

[@afonsolucas2219]

MaJuV And what would the crawl to this one be!? STAR WARS ROGUE ONE DEATH STAR IS BEING BUILT DEATH STAR BAD! YOU KNOW THE DRILL!

[@MaJuV]

The crawl would describe the situation as is. Something like the following: It is a dark time. The Galactic Empire has a totalitarian control. The Jedis have been exterminated and rebel forces are hunted and fractured across the galaxy. In an attempt to erase all resistance, the Emperor has ordered the construction of a weapon of mass destruction with a power never seen before. Lead scientist Galen Erso was able to flee the construction of this weapon with the help of the rebel Saw Gerrera and is currently in hiding with his family on Lah'mu. But Galen's peace cannot last forever, as the evil Orson Krennic is hot on his trail...

[@afonsolucas2219]

MaJuV It's always a Dark time in Star Wars... :)

[@Guernicaman]

If you've ever played the video game Halo Reach, it's basically that game in the Star Wars universe. I agree w/Rob. Bring back the opening scroll & while we're at it, the transition wipes too.

[@lalalalisa41]

I have that same shirt!! For me, I really liked this movie. It felt different, it felt realistic, and it felt like an actual war movie.

[@mattbabineau197]

That wasn't just a CG Gold Leader, that was actually the original footage.

[@afonsolucas2219]

THAT'S WHY IT STOOD OUT! I saw some footage that looked older than what I previously saw in the movie.

[@westaylor1489]

It was actually old unused footage that was digitally added in.

[@funcoolfunfun]

I love this film. Not sure if it's better than TFA yet, but it's close.

[@WizardPig321]

funcoolfunfun For me the scene where Darth Vader just murders all those rebels was the cherry on top of a movie that I like way more than TFA.

[@wordforger]

This had a more original plot, more original characters (aside from the ones that are from earlier films), a well-built climax, and actual stakes. The Empire was actually INTIMIDATING. The filmmakers were not afraid to take risks. The Force Awakens was ok, but it suffered from a far too frenetic pace and a recycled story. They tried to pack in too much, and I think that the movie really suffered for it. Rogue One is far and away the better movie because rather than rely on coincidence and contrivances, this movie had an actual reason and explanation for every character to be in it. They aren't, for the most part, people who get shot at for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, but rather people who chose to join with the Rebel Alliance for real, understandable reasons beyond chance.

[@gregorymelissinos6109]

yes it does

[@yupitsjessbbyx3]

It took me a while to realize tarkin was CGI

[@PetProjects2011]

I was convinced they just found an actor that looked exactly like Cushing.

[@bradychuley2869]

took me a second as well, my mind was blocked by me nerding out at the fact that tarkin was in the movie before i realised that Peter Cushing has been dead for 23 years

[@jman2856]

Rogue One: DARTH VADER IS BACK!

[@noelwym123]

J Man The scene where the dark corridor is illuminated by the ominous red glow of a Sith Lord's lightsaber, made me jizz and piss my pants.

[@mysite1012]

noelwym123 That scene was fucking awesome.

[@CeltycSparrow]

I will be honest and say Darth Vader in this movie mirrored how I felt about the mother-fucking T-Rex in Jurassic World. His reveal in this movie gave me chills, but there is something that happens later that very much reminds me of how I felt when the T-Rex fought the Indominus Rex in Jurassic World. It was freaking epic.

[@wordforger]

The REAL Darth Vader! He's actually... TERRIFYING. And the Empire is actually intimidating and a real threat! THIS is what we wanted from our Star Wars films! I also love the fact that they used a ton of practical effects. The whole thing feels so much more REAL. I don't hate CGI, but I do think it gets over-used to the point of destroying the realism of a scene. A person is talking to a blank green screen, and you can tell they're talking to a blank green screen. Here, though, I realized partway through that the filmmakers had actually built these sets, models, and costumes. Gone was the overly-slick, weightlessness of the CGI sets, models, and creatures. Here they've used CGI to enhance rather than utterly replace practical effects, and it really shows. Towns and cities are messy. Creatures shove people aside with the correct amount of force expected from the action. Actors know exactly what they're looking at because it's actually standing right in front of them!

[@MayorRoRacer]

What I really loved about the space battle is we got a feeling of how every ship is different and that they work as a team. Y-wings bombarding, etc. It was so badass!!!

[@archivedaccount5990]

This movie looks awesome. Loved The Force Awakens. Now, I wanna go see Rogue One.

[@Bent773]

It's a good one.

[@archivedaccount5990]

+Ben Thomas so I've heard.

[@MrDrewwills]

It's the empire strikes back of star wars movies. Seriously it gets dark.

[@bubermarcus8607]

Way better than Force Awaken.

[@gregorymelissinos6109]

That makes no sense

[@tominatorxx]

I like this one a lot. Personally I prefer it over The Force Awakens.

[@bubermarcus8607]

This is my second favorite Star Wars movie. Empire is the first.

[@gregorymelissinos6109]

George had nothing to do with TFA That was all JJ Abrams

[@tominatorxx]

Yup, that's 100% correct

[@Eunacis]

The pilots were straight-up stock footage rotoscoped over new backgrounds dubbed w/ impersonators.

[@mccpcorn2000]

I loved Tarkin so much in this film. I could rewatch his scenes again and again. He's far from perfect but a lot of effort has gone into making him as realistic as possible.

[@maxnobel2044]

They should've taken less time with CGI Tarkin and given more to developing Mendelsohn's character. My ranking right now is V > IV > III > VI > R1 > VII > I > II

[@bubermarcus8607]

Really? It's my second favorite Star Wars movie after Empire.

[@funcoolfunfun]

For me, it goes: VII>=R1 (for now)>I=II=III=IV=V=VI

[@witnessme4352]

Revenge of the Sith ahead of Return of the Jedi, Rogue One and The Force Awakens? How? At least we agree that Empire is the best and Attack of the Clones is the worst.

[@Grunkle2210]

The Gold/Red etc. squadrons were mostly reused or unused footage from A New Hope.

[@dariuswatson6298]

Really? That's kind of lazy. I can understand why they used CGI for Grand Moff Tarkin and Leia but I doubt anyone would have been that bothered if the Gold/Red squadrons looked different.

[@Grunkle2210]

It's a nice nod to the original trilogy that's all. They should be the same anyway, they come back a few days later to take down the Death Star. Just another bit of fan service that by the average movie goer will be unnoticeable.

[@mauriciobetimpaesleme8702]

I noticed that on the theater and I loved it. And Red 5 too. That was a good fan service, where the characters used have a point being there. But C-3PO and R2-D2...... oh boy ¬¬

[@dariuswatson6298]

Maybe that was kind of harsh. I didn't notice that they were the same characters but that does seem like good fanservice actually.

[@Grunkle2210]

Mauricio Betim Paes Leme The cameo wasn't too bad from those two, and it's to keep the tradition of having them in every movie. Certainly better than they were in the prequels.

[@joshuaosborne9203]

I freaking loved this movie. Makes Force Awakens look like the prequels all over again.

[@chance20m]

"No one is going to say it was the greatest Star Wars movie ever" I'm saying it. Much better than TFA, and at least on par with Empire Strikes Back.

[@skx444]

Spoilers: Han Solo dies

[@attilapataki46]

SKX44 i knew it

[@TheNMan64]

SKX44 But did he fire first?

[@trexation]

CGI Peter Cushing and CGI Carrie Fisher were so uncanny I cringed a lot and yet I wanted to see more of them. Is that weird?

[@orbitalchiller]

masochist

[@jongreen5692]

orbitalchiller you don't know what masochism is do you

[@rodster6campingprepper]

An idea Lucas had for the originalo movie was that Darth Vader would have a castle. I liked that they realised that in Rogue One. The original idea was that his castle would be on the lava planet where he got sliced up by Obi Wan.

[@pizza4589]

i didn't think they would have the balls to do that ending honestly.

[@TheStormingmonkey]

this is possibly my favorite star wars movie, about tied with empire