Ruger PC Carbine Review: Part 5 - Range Tests

[@gd5126]

This review was exactly what I was looking for. No hype, no sales pitch, just authentic data! Thank you!

[@AmericanXification]

Sounds like a fierce wind.. I imagine those groups would shrink on a calm day. Your video was informative and enjoyable. I'm wanting a 9mm carbine and am interested in either the PC carbine or the cz scorpion with brace. Appreciate the video brother.

[@davidb9323]

What did you end up with? Did you consider proprietary mags vs glock?

[@Rwalt61]

I was thinking about building an AR style PC carbine using something like an fm9 reciever but now I'm highly interested in a Ruger. I love the capability of using Glock magazines.

[@somecrazyveteran]

I have one that I upgraded the crap out of, it’s a tac driving beast.

[@gunfreak9mm]

Damn fine video. Since getting my Ruger carbine I have watched a plethora of reviews and you did an excellent job covering all aspects.

[@fallbangskid8304]

Excellent review and data collection. I just bought this rifle in part because of your review. Thank you!

[@IceMan8123]

Great review Sir. The most info I've seen on the PC9 yet.

[@charlesglisson8127]

Thank you for your excellent 5 part series on the Ruger PC carbine. I recently bought one for $476 with the threaded barrel. I think this will be a popular rifle. I hope you do additional videos on this rifle as aftermarket accessories become available.

[@towelie4625]

jeeze nice save

[@nestormacaraniag8604]

Excellent review... great effort. One of the best videos I have seen so far. Your honest and professional opinion on the Ruger PC9 Carbine were based on facts and uncontested data. To me, you will never go wrong with that. I just purchased my first ever PC Carbine and it is all because of all the videos that you have put up on this amazing and popular rifle. Thank you to you sir.

[@pikesticker]

I have a spare 3-9X Athlon BDC scope laying around that is calibrated based on a 1250fps MV. Zero'd at 50 yards the holdover subtensions are 75, 100, 125, and 150 yards. As soon as I get another set of rings I'm going to install it and then fine tune my reloaded ammo to exactly a 1250fps MV and see how well it performs on the marks. Could be interesting.

[@frankgrillo8094]

Great review! You've actually duplicated all that I've done- wish i had found this first ! 1 thing -- I've found after chronoing lots of ammo- IMI BLACK TIP & GOLD DOT +P , have givin me superb performance for defenseive applications

[@dansigmon1559]

Great review. I am looking forward to getting one.

[@GunsumerReports]

I think you will love it. I'm surprised at how quickly I have come to admire a pistol caliber carbine.

[@chrisgrace1489]

Dan Sigmon I bought one 2 weeks ago you'll love it mine is awesome

[@debo8514]

Thanks for the effort in putting all of this together. I own one and I really like it. Fits me well and I’ve had no FTF or FTE problems. Accuracy for me as it is for you. FYI, it’s a blast switching between the 10/22 and the PC 9. Thanks again.

[@peelreg]

I have a PC9 on the way to me. This excellent review answered many of my questions.

[@122Music1]

Ahhh. Shooting in a minor hurricane? This thing nails center out of the box. Loving mine.

[@ericdale5670]

I am waiting on that same model to arrive from Buds'. UPS has it moving my way as we I type. Thanks so much for the comprehensive review and testing. I think I have made a good choice for my first PCC.

[@TheRogerhill1234]

Just got done testing 9 kinds of sub sonic ammo in my Ruger 9mm carbine, suppressed. The ppu 158g ammo was one of the 4 quietest , and it is very quiet at the ear drum, with most of the sound being the bolt coming back. But the real separation was the accuracy at 50 yards, which was excellent. will be buy much for of this ammo. velocity was just under 1000 fps. Note: Keep your barrel screw tight, if you don't want the barrel jumping around.

[@jcalpha2717]

I love the concept, the size, functionality, reliability and accuracy. The reviews are all gushing and glowing. NOW !! Tell me who has one ( in stock) that I can purchase.

[@centraltexassurvivorpreppe7750]

I've already bought mine. But if I hadn't, this great bunch of reviews (I just watched them all) would have sold me!

[@hardybirch3630]

Very thorough, informative and helpful. I sincerely appreciate that you covered just about all of the common sense variables and then shared the results. Thanks

[@tomh7331]

Excellent information. I appreciate all your time and effort in collecting the data. Thank you so much!

[@Billbobaker]

I sure love mine.. my favorite plinker now.

[@sumosupremeking360]

Good review you did a nice job

[@pleitrap7073]

Relaying the brand of ammo used when scoring the targets was ok but for me bullet weight and pressure are a better indicator when matching rifling twist to potential of the target group size. just a thought...

[@thomasmackay9264]

Fantastic job !!!! A lot better accuracy than other reviews did in review ! Will make a good close quarters defense rifle ! Camp and truck gun !

[@wrxs1781]

Great review, thanks for putting in the time.

[@makerofmanythings8447]

I paid $475 out the door and got a 50 round drum mag for a Glock 17 for $58...REALLY FUN!!

[@Drew4078]

Virgle Phillips nice 👍! That’s a damn good deal.

[@guerom1367]

Thats exactly what i paid for mine at a gun show. Wanted the new version with the freefloat hanguard and adjustable stock but they wanted 700 for that one

[@FastSloW-qt8xf]

Thats good, i think they retail for like 650

[@philp411]

Nice job! The only think I didn’t care for was the opening sound.

[@humacao01]

Thats country for ya!!!

[@christopheryniguez825]

Suppressors and adding weight to front end of the barrel usually improves accuracy. Check out Johnnie's Reloading Bench hear on KZbin. He clearly demonstrates this

[@somwrtlftur2367]

I've had mine for about a month now and had no problems on 2 range trips. Very accurate with a scope and a red dot and virtually no recoil. I'm like you these days struggling with iron sights on anything because I just can't focus them anymore. Very fun gun to shoot with all my many Glock mags. Great video.

[@jonh9710]

Those are $479 new in my neck of the woods but then some places you got gougers also selling them for $579

[@frankf7858]

Thanks ill be picking mine up next week. Really can't wait.

[@zeppafloyd]

That was pretty darn thorough.

[@jmount411]

Your point of impact shift when attaching the suppressor could possibly be attributed to slight velocity gains also. The point of impact shift was slightly vertical of the original impacts unsuppressed. Sometimes for example when shooting 38 special and switching to 357 Magnum the point of impact shift is usually a shift in elevation due to the increased velocity of the projectile when shooting at farther ranges for pistol calibers such as 50 yards. I have seen some long range guns have slight velocity increased when the rifle is supressed vs unsuppressed. That's just one variable I could be wrong and it may well be another issue

[@slayer1472]

couple questions...how many rounds total and did you have any issues with stove pipes, or failure to eject/extract? I have read a lot that around the 1000 round mark, problems develop

[@jonasaurasrex]

Excellent review. Exactly what I needed, enough info to make the purchace

[@mits_6131]

I look forward to purchasing this rifle this May. I like the fact it takes Glock mags. Great video.

[@joeg4049]

Thank you for this review. Great job. I have one backordered and can't wait to get it. I like all of the variations and combos you showed and the effect on groups, which was basically no effect and a good thing. I have two of the 10/22 takedowns and love those as well. These 9mm PCC guns are fun to shoot. I recently purchased a Kel-Tec Sub 2000 Gen2 and it is also a fun gun for plinking. Thanks again.

[@GunsumerReports]

Joe, thanks for the feedback. I think you are going to love it.

[@garylloyd4465]

I am confused. TulAmmo has a reputation for inaccuracy, and Critical Defense is is designed for close range. Given that every weapon is unique in harmonic characteristics, use a quality ammo to zero your weapon with either iron sights or an optic. Once adjusted as close as possible, then try other quality brands. Secondly, subsonic i anything under 1125 fps, so the Hornady ammo was subsonic also.

[@doctorxring]

Somewhat concerning to me is not the group size but that your point of impact of the center of of your groups changes among the 4 targets shot for each type of ammo. ?? (even after you found out about the thread protector)

[@GunsumerReports]

The shift in POI between the groups is due to me changing the recoil state of the rifle as I twisted it slightly in the Bulls Bag to line up on the target. Good observation on your part. I have seen this before when using this bag while shifting to various targets and not repositioning the bag slightly.

[@TheRogerhill1234]

Barrel Moves. I can't get the gun to shoot in the same place without tightening the barrel nut way down. Shoots straight for awhile, then it starts getting all squirrely again

[@EarthbendR]

Put about 200 to 300 rounds through mine and the dang takedown screws came loose with one even popping out!

[@towelie4625]

torque your Alan's with pliers or use lock tite.

[@MoKeefus]

I hope Ruger gave you a gift certificate or something. You probably sold as many rifles as an add in a magazine.

[@robpetry84]

Very good review. I don't know how I haven't seen your channel before. I watch this kind of content all the time. I guess the gun hating youtube algorithm is doing its (shitty) job. Subscribed.

[@trenacook7694]

Darn skippy. Fine job ruger. Thanks for posting video.

[@DaSmisker]

Class leder, Great job!

[@frogmanjack8790]

Does buffalo bore make ammo for 9mm and would it cycle

[@vincentj3093]

By far the best review on KZbin, very informative.Thank you. Just as soon as we’re allowed out again and the local gun shop can restock as they were overrun during this pandemic, I will pick one up. I will probably have to get two because my granddaughter is going to love ringing steel with this.

[@philvogt7671]

Put some 124grain NATO in a 32 round Glock mag... be a bad mammajamma

[@guerom1367]

I got a cheap cvlife bipod and scope for mine. Gonna shoot it with the iron sights a bit then put the scope on and hopefully somebody at the range can help me sight it. Lol

[@johnburnett5377]

I have this carbine in .40, and the Korean made mags don't work when full.

[@cowboywoodard2569]

Great Video!! Like to see a group at 100 yds. Thanks again my friend.

[@Paul-wq4qb]

What is the name, make/model of that shooting bag/rest you had?

[@irenemoran6137]

3:00, it was that crappy ammo, never use that dirty, steelcase, berdan primed crap in anything but an AK or Mosin

[@davidmcguire6043]

I shoot it all the time. Hit my targets too. Only bad shooters blame the ammo.

[@jg1007]

His problem was not that he shot steel ammo. The problem is shooting it first, then moving to brass. That's a no no. The steel case and stuck on dirt in the barrel can cause the brass later to get stuck.

[@Jose-fc5yd]

You can tighten up your groups with a simple fix on the firearm.

[@heinekenboy6901]

great video mabe with a 18.5 in canon im sure tha accuracy will me better but ruger make them at 16 in

[@drtreeson]

Fine job good detailed review

[@jeffryrichardson9105]

I agree with your findings 100%!👍🏾😀❤️🇺🇸

[@IRONMAN-4LIFE]

What king of scope rings?

[@kevinguthmiller8510]

I'm kind of tired of hearing people, who choose to put these tests on youtube, make excuses about how they forget something in their setup or its unstable, or too much wind, or "maybe it was me", or what have you. Anyone have a link to a decent source for accuracy testing on the PC9? Perhaps shooting indoors on a stable platform with a zeroed scope. Essentially, so the variables are taken out and we, the viewers, can make informed decisions on ammo type.

[@talljoe3359]

Waiting on the mail man to bring an aftermarket extractor so that I can shoot 10 rounds in a row without 3 or 4 FTE's.

[@deanheeb8024]

Great work great detail!

[@mikenelson3066]

I've got a burris fast fire red dot on mine. My accuracy with the red dot mirrors your iron sight accuracy at 50 yds - poor!

[@brianpartlow5530]

I put a sig romeo on mine. My holes were touching at 50 yards. It was indoors, no wind, relaxed environment. I am totally satisfied with it.

[@ManetInAEternum]

You in Minnesota brother?? I just picked up one of these!

[@calebchristensen900]

I feel like this kind of looks like a reject weapon that didn’t catch on with police. Does anyone else see the upside of law enforcement having one of these in the patrol car instead of an AR? Hopefully they’ll make other caliber versions. Me personally I’d like a 357 magnum version

[@gascheck8151]

Caleb Christensen I agree .357 mag it would be, a run away success. I'm waiting.

[@StuartKReilly]

Did you ever try out cheap/midgrade brass? Like Winchester white box, 9mm NATO, the bulk remington stuff in the yellow boxes you see in places like Walmart and Academy? I believe more realistically its what I and others would be plinking in a fine gun like this

[@StuartKReilly]

Following up on this comment. I got mine yesterday. Ran some white box 9mm NATO. Boresighted a Bushnell TRS, got decent enough groups at 10-15 yards for my shaky hands. NO jams with G19 14rd Pmag, ONE FTF with the ETS 31rd stick. Chalking it up to the gun getting really dirty after all my shooting and the mag needing a break in period. The ETS has a super heavy spring I believe will soften with a few days loaded

[@jimboslice1846]

Just got mine yesterday. Planning to shoot with some white box! Thanks for your input

[@Pollux95630]

Just put 100 rounds of Winchester white box through my new PC9 this morning. Worked flawlessly. No jams, no misfires. Tight groups, and some perfect bullseyes at 50yds. Super fun little gun.

[@jennifernichols3684]

You did not shoot +p+ why not

[@zootedsuit]

Beautiful property. I'm jealous 😎

[@kevincumbie9318]

It is a lot of work in the summer, but I love the place!

[@themexican3278]

How did it do with the steel case ammo?

[@GunsumerReports]

It shot great without any issues. I will be feeding much more through it and if I have any issues I will put out an update.

[@themexican3278]

GunsumerReports thank you for your input. I live in California and people are afraid of showing their AR’s . I’m looking to buy this Ruger 9mm carbine to take some shooting classes. Do you think this carbine will endure 3/4 hundred rounds in one day or couple thousand rounds in a year? I hit like on this video and I’m following your channel.

[@GunsumerReports]

Although I cannot speak to the "couple thousand rounds in a year" in a year yet, my limited data point is hundreds a day shouldn't be any issue. The carbine is built like a tank (my impression) and will most likely handle thousands of rounds easy with a little normal cleaning as needed.

[@themexican3278]

GunsumerReports sir thank you so much god bless you and your family and thanks again for sharing your knowledge. Genuine people like you are what makes this country great.

[@jimmysapien9961]

The Mexican I Agree

[@plamenstoychev2158]

Nice but I found some videos that report accuracy problems or trigger reset issues.

[@justdjackson]

All guns are going to have bad reviews though. I have an SR9C and I absolutely love it over some of the more pricier competitors. People have bad things to say about the SR9C as well. It all depends on what you are used to. Like most guns, I'm sure it has a break in period and you need to get used to the gun as well. Just my opinion. I get mine Friday. We shall see.

[@neonpaintsplash]

I watched this while I pooped You're welcome:)

[@rickrevoir1683]

Audemosha I bet you poop blue !!

[@humacao01]

Thanks for sharing.....lol

[@totljag1]

25 yard zero for a 9 mm carbine , check a ballistics chart if u don’t believe me

[@Skootsem]

This carbine was designed for +P

[@grumman7772]

I just buy this gun at my local gun shop

[@stevemiller7433]

I finally saw one for sale at my gun shop. $900.00 ...used. No thanks. I only paid $599.00 for my Beretta CX4 carbine which is arguably a better firearm.

[@nicknoland9704]

Steve Miller - $900 used! My word... They should retail on average for $525 - $575 brand new! Something was wrong there.

[@justdjackson]

That's wild. Just paid $525 for mine today. Brand new.

[@stevemiller7433]

great!

[@mastercheef12345]

It was probably a used one from the 90's. They made a version of this rifle during the AWB mainly for the law enforcement market; "PC" actually stood for "Police carbine". By the mid 2000's, it was clear that most departments were opting for AR-15s so these rifles never really caught on and ruger discontinued it. Now, with the popularity of pistol caliber carbines, ruger has brought it back aimed primarliy at the civilian market. In fact, according to their catalog, the "PC" stands for "Pistol Caliber", not "Police Carbine". The old Police carbines can indeed be found for such over-inflated prices, but the pistol caliber carbines should be in stores here soon and for around $500.

[@stevemiller7433]

you may be right.

[@williamb2309]

get a bench mount!! your free standing shooting sucks