São Paulo - The Best and Worst City in Brazil!

[@TomiPrpic]

You are one of rare youtubers with interesting videos about Brasil ( mixing lot of things and facts ) keep doing good job..cheers from Croatia

[@nordicinvestor]

Thank you!

[@boxinggloves1699]

I've always wanted to buy an apartment in Vila Madalena. I'm from London and I love the city of Sao Paulo.

[@nordicinvestor]

Vila Madalena is a cool neighborhood, a bit expensive though

[@Romanoi-i1o]

Why? People from Sao Paulo live to weekend or vacation in Rio

[@pedrorodalves]

@@Romanoi-i1o Sao paulo have awesome beaches too, not distant of the city. And not anyone likes beaches.

[@ZFCaio]

@@Romanoi-i1o Both places sucks, South of Brazil is the best part of the country

[@Wellington-r9l]

​​​@@ZFCaioInterior de SP é a melhor parte do Brasil. Nada se compara com as cidades super desenvolvidas e ricas como São José dos Campos, Indaiatuba, Vinhedo, Jundiaí, Valinhos ,Franca,Bauru,Piracicaba, Sorocaba, Águas de São Pedro... No interior de SP não são algumas sim e outras não, como aí no Sul,mas sim várias cidades super desenvolvidas, com infraestrutura e com ótima qualidade de vida. Lembrando que São Caetano do Sul sendo do ABC paulista foi eleita o município com o melhor IDH,mas hoje em dia não sabemos se continua sendo. No Sul, só presta Curitiba, Cascavel, Jaraguá do Sul,Maringá e Balneário Camboriú.

[@Gutierresfs]

Regarding violence in São Paulo, here are some additional data points: the city records a high number of robberies, especially of cell phones, which increases the feeling of insecurity. However, in 2023, São Paulo had fewer homicides than New York City, considering the rate per 100,000 inhabitants. São Paulo recorded 4 deaths per 100,000, while New York registered 5. This does not mean the city is safe, but it suggests it is safer than is commonly perceived.

[@nordicinvestor]

Thanks for the info !

[@Marcelo-Caruccio]

New York City, that fair city the Democrats destroyed again.

[@hugodehahaha]

Exatamente. Bem como considerar o custo de aluguel barato, por basear-se no dólar é uma comparação que não faz muito sentido.

[@TheSptani]

Perfect information!!!! It´s true...

[@zuarbrincar769]

Also the numbeo website has its crime data very based on a spreadsheet of questions about how safe or unsafe people in a given city feel, in which any person can go there and respond to contribute. This method, although it may give us some idea of the crime rate in a place, has risks of inaccuracy as it is based on the subjective feelings of some residents which can also be influenced by what the media reports about their city, and as São Paulo and Rio have a lot of media covering their crimes (for example, the case of Susanne von Richtoffen became famous throughout the country), people can overestimate some crimes. I don't mean to say that São Paulo is particularly safe (I live here and I don't feel safe) as you said there is a lot of cell theft here

[@claytonpiresscaldelai8161]

I've lived in São Paulo since 2011, I love this city. Coming here was the best choice I made in my life.

[@MrGalsilv]

I totally agree with you...I'm living in Sweden, I'm from São Paulo...

[@nordicinvestor]

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[@tuliofrancisco3781]

Living in SP has its great upsides, you can find great food from all over the globe in one place, it's pretty safe when compared to other big cities, a lot of career opportunities. But the cost of living is astronomical, it's a rainy, noisy, crowded and polluted city. It's a love it or hate it kind of city.

[@nordicinvestor]

'Its a love or hate kind of city' - totally agree with you!

[@Romanoi-i1o]

It's like Rio without the sea or scenary, like Tokyo without the cleanliness, like London without the (surviving) nice low rise architecture, like Bombay without the cheap food or ocean, like Mexico df without the rashal homogeneity

[@andret.t.2408]

​@@Romanoi-i1oSão Paulo is absolutely nothing like Rio. It's even offensive to pronouce such profanity

[@Romanoi-i1o]

@@andret.t.2408 i should have said sao paulo is lile rio without the beaches, scenery, imperial capital past, surviving imperial architecture, portuguese influence, and portuguese immigrants

[@ricardocima]

@@Romanoi-i1o I miss Tokyo. Just a quick note. Carry on.

[@TheFiveFiveTwo]

Was looking forward to a video about Sao Paulo. Thanks for the video! Great work.

[@nordicinvestor]

Glad you liked it

[@mrmanx89]

As a Brazilian native from Sao Paulo, what I can say is… don't believe in anything what he said in the video, his negative opinion is biased. The region he lives is the most fascist in Brazil. I have lived in other states in Brazil including the south where he lives, what I can assure you is nobody would change Sao Paulo to another city in South America.

[@Romanoi-i1o]

@@mrmanx89 the problem with the antifascist parts of Br is the pervasive smell of urine everywhere at all times. In Rio everything smells of urine. You step into military controlled territory like morro de leme, fort of copacabana or the navy docks in centro and it's gone like magic. Not even the 5* can be free of urine apparently you need the military

[@papi8659]

Love Sao Paulo, great nightlife,very affordable,very diverse , best connected airports in South America, fantastic modernist architecture no disney crap like Paris, no silly puritan rules like boring New York

[@nordicinvestor]

I also think SP is a great city to visit

[@ftdecastrolondon]

Disney crap?? You don't know Paris. They have the best museums and cafés!! I love Paris.

[@Marcelo-Caruccio]

"fantastic modernist architecture" hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[@zuarbrincar769]

As a citizen of São Paulo city, modern architecture sucks

[@kwladner]

Since you specific have mentioned Congonhas you’ll be happy to hear it already started a big refurbishment so to speak there which to sum up will make Congonhas experience much better than today’s.

[@nordicinvestor]

That's great news

[@ninja11zoo]

Sou paulistano, qdo vou ao centro, Paulista,vou de carro pra estação de metrô mais próximo deixo o carro no estacionamento e vou de metrô..

[@tuliofrancisco3781]

Just a small correction, the photo you showed, of the nice building right next to the favela is actually são Paulo! Paraisópolis favela is right next to Morumbi which is one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in SP. Great video!

[@nordicinvestor]

Thanks for the correction !

[@mrmanx89]

@@tuliofrancisco3781 in Latin America! And favelas like in Rio is not the same in Sao Paulo.

[@esiosalazar]

My city, the best city in the world. Love São Paulo

[@nordicinvestor]

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[@AirAtlantic-c6g]

Thanks a lot for the video and your analises. State of São Paulo is like a country and São Paulo City is a cosmopolitan city. We have problems too but we find problems in all bigs cities around the world. But SP is fantastic! Thank you!

[@myautisticsight4081]

Great video as always😊

[@nordicinvestor]

Thanks!

[@bearcb]

Having lived in São Paulo, I can attest the video is quite accurate. The cost of living cannot really be compared to US and Europe, because the average salaries in Brazil are much lower. So the cost of living for Brazilians is quite high. A minor correction: Ibirapuera is not the biggest park in São Paulo, there are at least 2 bigger ones. It is the most famous and central one, though.

[@nordicinvestor]

Thanks for sharing!

[@ricardomaggiore5518]

Best places to invest are in the large luxury condos, just in the outskirts like the zones of Santana de Parnaiba, Barueri, Granja Viana, Cotia, Aldeia da Serra etc. you can still buy relatively low cost pieces of land inside a premium condo and build a dream mansion being 20 minutes of the main avenues of Sao Paulo. Perfect for families wishing to move there with the plus being near the industrial zones. Good for investors or business owners. Instead for singles or couples that wants to live inside the city and enjoy the cinemas, bars, theaters, university, concerts etc, an apartment is the best choice. Vila Madalena, Pinheiros, Moema, Perdizes are great zones. Relatively safe, and well covered with city services such as restaurants, markets, hospitals, easy public transport...

[@nordicinvestor]

Thanks for the info!

[@ricardomaggiore5518]

@nordicinvestor Italian here. I am moving there next year with the whole family. I have studied in detail about this city since 2021, it is a great city for those who are looking for an alternative to Europe. Wish me luck!

[@Kownter]

Granja Viana is the "condominium complex" and Cotia is the municipality itself. Same happens with Santana de Parnaíba and Barueri as two municipalities, and Alphaville being the complex itself (split between both cities) Not wanting to disrupt your plan, but if I were you I would move to the condos located in the outskirts of Vinhedo and Valinhos instead, in the interior of the state. much safer than Alphaville, for example, when you leave the walls.

[@ricardomaggiore5518]

@@Kownter thanks for the information. In fact these small cities around are touching Sao Paulo and it is quite confusing . I see on the map Valignos and Vinhedo and they look like nice cities indeed. They seem a bit far from Sao Paulo, around 1h by car not ideal for daily commute. In my case I need to be near the Sao Paulo city itself. It would be a good choice if you work in Campinas...

[@mrmanx89]

@@ricardomaggiore5518 I Am from Granja Vianna

[@kronop8884]

I was passing the boundary of Crackolandia by car one winter morning after a really cold night (8-10 C) and it was honestly like being a in a real life zombie movie

[@casbarbosa37]

Its like Skid Row on steroids

[@nordicinvestor]

It sounds scary, I did not have the courage to go there

[@mrmanx89]

@@nordicinvestoryou see how you are? The cracklandia is always being removed. I'd you don't have enough money to stay in better areas that's what you get!

[@leftoverture1976]

That is true, I once went there when driving and got shocked with that exact sight, very saddening.

[@bonzas15]

@@nordicinvestor It's easy to drive near Cracolandia, its area is limited by the police. These few dangerous areas in central are where you will see the police most, just like you saw in Sé. You will find more problems in the favelas in peripheral areas. Great video BTW!

[@Gustavo-gk2dr]

Amazing content about Brazil, very nice my friend, good luck in your channel!!!😊

[@nordicinvestor]

Thank you very much!

[@TheSptani]

Perfect analysis of the São Paulo city! You managed to capture the essence of the city, highlighting both its strengths and weaknesses. One particularly important point to emphasize is the integration of various ethnicities and the friendliness and sociability of the people. It's something very hard to find in other parts of the world. For example, I am a second-generation Japanese, and I married a Brazilian whose great-grandmother was Indigenous and gradfather was portuguese. There truly is a mix and complete integration of multiple cultures, which is reflected in the cuisine and culture. I love living in São Paulo and Brasil!!!!! All of this can be summed up in my son, who holds Japanese, Portuguese, and Brazilian nationalities.

[@nordicinvestor]

You are right, SP is a real mix of people

[@rodrigoreboucas8388]

Great video! I love São Paulo... it's a place with so many options for things to do, lots of bars, restaurants, vibrant culture, national and international shows, and people from all over Brazil and the world. If you want, you can do something every day of the week. I don’t really like the traffic and the crime... but the crime is okay. There are other capitals in Brazil that are worse. Here in São Paulo, you can live peacefully despite the crime rate-it’s not something that will directly and constantly affect you.

[@rafaelfranca2212]

I liked your overall take on the city. Without sugarcoating it, you addressed the most important issues that inhabitants face daily. Having ridden on some subways in Europe, I can easily say that when it comes to public infrastructure (subway) the city is one the best in the world. However, if you are planning on coming here to work for a big company, I would highly not recommend it, as the cost of living is high, and many wouldn't be able to keep up with it.

[@nordicinvestor]

Totally agree - good infrastructure but high cost of living

[@tristinhoriquelme7303]

Very Nice vídeo. Best wishes from São Paulo

[@nordicinvestor]

Thanks

[@drvzky2757]

Thanks for the video! Great work.

[@nordicinvestor]

Glad you liked it!

[@hugodehahaha]

Muito bom o vídeo, mostrou os dois lados da moeda com bastante isenção, mas passando o feeling da coisa.

[@nordicinvestor]

Thanks 👍

[@george_1977]

Awesome analises from São Paulo.

[@nordicinvestor]

Thank you!

[@mariapaula793]

the best swedish guy I have ever seen

[@nordicinvestor]

Thanks 😂

[@claytonkikugawa6657]

The income in São Paulo is proporsionaly higher as the expenditiures. The fuel is cheaper than Rio and Minas, the supermarket is same price, with the advantage of having better products, variety, quality of vegetebles, bakeries. São Paulo is much more esier and fast to solve the routine duties. The services are better. People is more educated and civilized. There are 39 cities in "Grande São Paulo" like Barueri, São Caetano do Sul, Guararema, São José dos Campos etc. Very safe and organized cities.

[@nordicinvestor]

Thanks for the info👍

[@Clouds_lilac]

You shouldn't say not to visit the old city center of SP as there are a lot of cultural events and historic buildings with interesting attractions, you just are not aware. Of course, everyone should be cautious in all areas of the city.

[@nordicinvestor]

You are right, the old city centre has lots of nice things

[@luizvinha]

Love Sao Paulo, and the best thing is easy to get around the world from there. I live in the U.S. and i just bought a condo at the northen coast of sao paulo for about 60k USD. its still under construction and i count not be more excited. Ilhabela is awesome

[@nordicinvestor]

Congrats, the northern coast of SP is very beautiful

[@rodrigodioniziodantas5917]

São Paulo is: almost 13 million inhabitants (center), +23 million (39 municipalities) and almost 35 million (extended metropolis of São Paulo) State of São Paulo: + 46.6 million inhabitants

[@nordicinvestor]

Thanks for the info!

[@marcoz9497]

Good info, mostly of your perception is right and precise, some need extra info. For instance, the local Congonhas airport is under a huge renovation, part of the problems you had there were because of that, also you were embarking in the area without fingers for direct access to planes, that area will disappear on the renovation, that also includes a new metro line connected direct in the airport, the whole renovation will doubled Congonhas size. Also the cultural side of the city was barely spoken of, there are huge amounts of good theatres, museums, classical music (best orchestras in the country, best Opera, etc), dance companies, all kinds of Festivals of all that, but specially a great music scene, from huge Arena pop shows to small perfomance bars. This and the night life (and shopping) are the major reasons tourists from the rest of the country packs São Paulo.

[@nordicinvestor]

Thanks for the extra info and clarification 👍

[@mrmanx89]

@@marcoz9497 exactly! He didn't stay long enoughh there to have an opinion about it, although he still made a video with the most negative impressions I have heard. Has he forgot, we are the Comercial, Cutural, and Academic (the 8th best university in the world) , cultural, polo in the whole Latin America? Has he ever mentioned, Sao Paulo is the place where the coffee beans exportations started to the world and the leader ? Where the best factory and production in the world of aeroplanes ✈️ is from, EMBRAER?

[@RogeCarboni]

The Congonhas Airport (in centre) will be refurbished in 2025 (finishing in 2026) to a new and technology place, with best logistics and with double spaces, gates, planes, shops and others and with direct connection to air train.

[@nordicinvestor]

That's good, thanks for the info!

[@LucasFeijo]

Nice video! Congonhas is being expanded and it’s about to have twice as many gates

[@nordicinvestor]

Thanks for the info!

[@lisandrasilva3084]

My city ❤❤

[@nordicinvestor]

Its a great city !

[@Mateus-w6s]

I Love Sao Paulo. 😍

[@nordicinvestor]

Its a great city 👍

[@MariaAlmeida-u8l]

For Crystals and gems you should go to the towns of Soledade or Ametista do Sul, both in the state of Rio Grande do Sul.

[@nordicinvestor]

Thanks for the info. I will try to visit them soon

[@lucas__franca8228]

Conhonhas Airport will double in size, works have already started, there will be a terminal just for arrivals and this one for boarding will improve a lot

[@ericomello9483]

Great video! The problem about that rent map you showed is that its probably not considering the average or minimum wage in each country. It showed that a single person has to make about 7k reais a month (when including rent) but the average income per month is like 2k reais...

[@nordicinvestor]

Yeah, its not very realistic I agree

[@MrFabiomaga]

Congonhas airport is going through a full renovation. They are creating a whole new terminal and the actual structure will handle disembarking only.

[@nordicinvestor]

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[@Jarlaxled-wg6wj]

One thing that I found out and confuses people a lot is that - as with New York - Sao Paulo is the name of the city and also the state. So when people say that Sao Paulo doesn't have any beaches, it means the city, since you can take a two hours trip and be in the coastline. And yeah the city itself is huge, with its metropolitan area having more than 20 million people. That's a batshit crazy number, only similar in metropolitan areas from China like Guangzhou and Beijing and of course Tokyo.

[@nordicinvestor]

I agree, its crazy how big SP is

[@eliomarlacerda6943]

Have you lived in Fortaleza? Great video by the way. Be save.

[@DonnieChoi]

Só tem a orla né, o resto .....

[@nordicinvestor]

I have visited Fortaleza but not lived there. I really liked it

[@eliomarlacerda6943]

@@DonnieChoi sem comentários

[@arrav3566]

I am from São José do Rio Preto, which appears on the map at the 13 or so minutes mark. It is considered the second best city in Brazil! Far interior of the São Paulo State.

[@nordicinvestor]

That's a very nice city

[@huapehucristovao2214]

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[@nordicinvestor]

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[@diegotolentino2492]

São Paulo is a great city for wealthy people, as it's a cosmopolitan hub with plenty of exciting things to do. However, having money is essential to ensure protection from urban violence.

[@mikaelpetersen3331]

This was great! Will we get one about Rio as well?

[@nordicinvestor]

I will do a video about Rio as well 👍

[@michelle6471]

The Best São Paulo! Loveeee . And food so Amazing, picanha, Pastel, Churrasco. I really appreciate that 🇧🇷👌

[@nordicinvestor]

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[@krulesrc]

They are expanding the Congonhas airport terminal. It is on its early development, but it started already.

[@nordicinvestor]

That's great

[@brunoalc5422]

You'll be happy to know that Congonhas airport is going through renovations and they plan to double its size, it'll be much more modern and better. But of course this can take several years to finish.

[@nordicinvestor]

That's great news

[@Bruno-Bittar]

Great video keep up with the good job❤ this is the problem of Brazil each state should be a country and not a dependant state. Sao paulo generates so much money 600 billion dollars a year, higher than Sweden s GDP and has so many people that it could be an independent country with much better life quality and infrastructure for its inhabitants

[@nordicinvestor]

Thanks!

[@thythyli]

Congonhas was concessioned to a spanish company. They are building a new terminal to be concluded in 2028.

[@nordicinvestor]

That's great news

[@lisandrasilva3084]

If São Paulo had a mayor would be so much better.

[@nordicinvestor]

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[@renanrodrigues8984]

You must visit Vitória-ES . Good place to live. Alphaville Três Praias

[@nordicinvestor]

It is a very nice city 👍

[@juninh0pqp750]

Congonhas is under renovation it will be a bit better (u can find videos for the new project on youtube). But Congonhas was a farm far far away from the city, but the city grew towards it then becomes this caos for space.

[@nordicinvestor]

Thanks for the info, I had no idea

[@DonnieChoi]

My tenant pays only $2400 including common charges to live in the city center of São Paulo. I'm a good landlord. But then again, it's a tiny studio apartment. 😅

[@nordicinvestor]

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[@casbarbosa37]

Hey there! 2 good News regarding the local AirPort! In 2 years from now it Will be served by a modern monorail line, and the whole AirPort Will be renovated

[@casbarbosa37]

Other litle correction, 3 million people lives in favelas in São Paulo Estate, not just in the city and the State has 45 million people

[@casbarbosa37]

The other thing u Did not mentioned and I believe is negative is how paranoid people from São Paulo is regarding violence…. The Sense of danger is way higher then the actual danger u can get there

[@nordicinvestor]

That's good to know

[@nordicinvestor]

Thanks for the correction!

[@valjobusp1063]

São Paulo is not for the weak. But it offers the best of Latin America and has the greatest human diversity on the planet. For someone who has lived here for a long time, probably wouldn't talk about 8 minutes of positive points in a video that is almost 22 minutes long. In other words, 14 minutes of complaining. As I said, São Paulo is not for the weak...

[@nordicinvestor]

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[@Marcelo-Caruccio]

Actually, Sao Paulo´s subway system is REALLY small. Pekin has 815Km , London 400Km, Istambul 243Km. São Paulo only 104Km...

[@nordicinvestor]

Thanks for the info. The thing that impressed me the most was that the SP subway had air conditioning.

[@RenatoMolinaro-gn1zz]

+ 270km of metropolitan trains, it is an integrated network of more than 370km, 13 lines with 2 more under construction and 2 being expanded.

[@Marcelo-Caruccio]

@@RenatoMolinaro-gn1zz I´m talking only about SUBWAYs, not metropolitan trains.

[@RenatoMolinaro-gn1zz]

@@Marcelo-Caruccio But I'm saying this because they are integrated systems (just look at the map) like many cities in the world and it confuses a lot of people who are not from São Paulo. Only those who are from here know that we have 2 rail systems! Bye

[@mareminho]

Have you ever visited the countryside of São Paulo state? The indices for the interior of São Paulo, depending on the city, are usually similar to those of the countryside of Santa Catarina, both in terms of crime rates and cost of living and health. In fact, the cost of living and health services often tend to be better than in Santa Catarina, and crime rates are generally comparable. If you ever get the chance and remember, talk about this in your videos.

[@nordicinvestor]

I have visited a few cities in the state of SP and its very nice

[@ZFCaio]

There is no state in Brazil that even compares to Santa Catarina dude, it literally feels like first world

[@NapoleonOkugbe]

@@ZFCaiobut cities in São Paulo State like Sao Jose dos campos, Jundiai, Sao Jose do rio preto and Ribeiro Preto have better HDI than cities in Santa Catarina.

[@mauriciodossantos176]

​@@ZFCaioPercebemos que vc ama Santa Catarina mas vc já esteve em Londres? Ele não quer sair de Londres pra morar no Cool do mundo, Florianopolis, Balneario, Jaragua do Sul , Brusque si juntar todas essas cidades elas não tem 1 terço dos eventos, Museus, Shows, Teatros e Restaurante que a cidade de São Paulo tem, essa é a verdade e si ele quiser ficar proximo a Capital ele pode morar em São Caetano do Sul cidade do Brasil com o maior IDH e apenas á 15 minutos do centro de Sp

[@pipp972]

Last I heard (study from this year) the price of the square meter in SP had surpassed Florianópolis. I'm unsure which list is more up to date.

[@nordicinvestor]

I'm also not sure, I think it depends on which source you use. I think the key point is that both SP and Floripa are very expensive!

[@Eurobrasil550]

Great city to visit , but would be complicada to live I think. If you wish to visit 'Shopping Morumbi' in the upmarket residential area of the same name, and having one of the very few 'Apple Stores' in South America don't make the same mistake as me ie travelling to Metrô Morumbi near to the end of Yellow line 4, This is a 30 odd minute bus ride to the Mall, Travel to trem station 'Morumbi' on line 9 esmeralda, That is just a few minutes walk to the Mall.

[@baconbeatles2790]

Is your wife from SP? I'm from SP and I've been to a place in Sweden called Åmot! Nice little town!

[@nordicinvestor]

My wife is from the south of Brazil. I have not been to Åmot but it seems very nice

[@janotlellis7230]

I would honestly like to understand the meaning of the expression "relatively safe"... at what point does a person start to feel safe or unsafe? Based on what? on facts, or on opinions disseminated by the media? And another question: does this feeling of "relative safety" apply only to São Paulo and Brazil in general, or do these "criteria" also apply to other places on the planet?

[@nordicinvestor]

It was my feeling compared to other cities in Brazil. But it's all very subjective

[@aar8808]

Numbeo is a good site. But there's no site like visiting in person. São Paulo as a state though has one of the lowest homicide rates, but again, feeling is important.

[@nordicinvestor]

Very true

[@ZFCaio]

"Lowest homicide rates" isso é uma ilusão São Paulo é gigante, só a população da cidade de SP é maior que o país Portugal E esses índices de homicídios são por cada 100 pessoas Estou lendo um livro "Como Mentir com Estatística" Isso me remete muito ao livro Mas eu acredito que no interior de São Paulo tenham cidades boas Já conversei com um Irlandês que morava no interior de SP e ele me falou bem Não lembro o nome da cidade mas era bem pequena, relativamente perto de Campinas que é uma cidade grande

[@aar8808]

@@ZFCaio Lowest homicide RATE. Not lowest NUMBERS of homicide. Porcentagem da população.

[@eddierocksteady]

Can you make a video on Brasília?

[@nordicinvestor]

I did a video about Brasilia a few months ago

[@Lspac3]

Congonhas realmente é um problema. Por isso iniciou recentemente obras para dobrar o terminal e o metro vai chegar em congonhas, então vai aliviar um pouco o transito. Vai mudar completamente nos proximos anos

[@nordicinvestor]

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[@Juan-li8uj]

I liked the video, i just don't find it fair to compare a city with 500k people (Floripa) with São Paulo at all hahaha

[@nordicinvestor]

Very true, SP is a lot bigger than Floripa

[@joaov.m.oliveira9903]

12:00 Sao Paulo State, not the city, right?

[@nordicinvestor]

Good point

[@akavelar9673]

Sp city got a huge GDP. Bigger than Argentina. It is the most important economic and financial hub in latin América. Its caotic.

[@nordicinvestor]

Very true, its very big

[@josephpanzarella1417]

You mention waiting for an hour at the airport for a taxi. But you don't mention Uber, the more popular option. I've never waited more than five minutes for an Uber at either of São Paulo's airports.

[@nordicinvestor]

I tried to get an uber but it was impossible. The app could not find a driver

[@josephpanzarella1417]

@nordicinvestor I've arrived at both airports around five times each. I never had a problem. An Uber driver was there each time within five minutes.

[@Limbustwo]

This is the best analysis of Sao Paulo from a foreign perspective.

[@nordicinvestor]

Thank you!

[@albertfroz]

You spoke nonsense about the São Paulo Coast, as Guarujá is less than one hour away from the capital, all they have to do is go down the hill

[@nordicinvestor]

Thanks for the correction !

[@Gold.Circle.]

Never had an issue at congonhas. Or getting an uber

[@nordicinvestor]

I must have been unlucky on that day that I arrived

[@heliojose5050]

Show de ⚽️ ⚽️ ⚽️

[@nordicinvestor]

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[@realityfloor9356]

The city is very big, it is only suitable for business tourism, the quality of life you can only find in cities in the interior, where another 20 million people live and which are in no way inferior to Europe.

[@nordicinvestor]

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[@Iktius]

I love São Paulo (and I hated her too 😄) !

[@nordicinvestor]

Love and hate relationship 😂

[@murua1234]

One thing that many people are not aware of is that until the 1970s, the state of São Paulo used to be part of Brazil's Southern region. It was the military junta, somewhat afraid of the separatist movement gaining traction, that decided to separate São Paulo from the Southern region, realigning it with the Brazilian cultural core of Rio de Janeiro and Minas Gerais. After this shift, a strong 'psy-ops' campaign was carried out, especially in academia and schools, to culturally distance São Paulo from the remaining Southern states. As a result, immigrant heritage began to be suppressed, labeled as 'foreign' or 'non-Brazilian.' This is one of the main reasons why, for instance, Italians in São Paulo are less connected to their heritage compared to those in the South, even in nearly 100% Italian towns in the state's interior.

[@murua1234]

brasilescola.uol.com.br/brasil/divisao-regional-brasileira.htm#:~:text=Bahia%2C%20Minas%20Gerais%2C%20Espírito%20Santo,Janeiro%20formavam%20a%20região%20Leste

[@nordicinvestor]

Thanks for the info, I did not know that

[@murua1234]

No worries! Another cool historical fact is that during the colonial period, and later in imperial times, both Paraná and parts of Santa Catarina were part of the São Paulo imperial province.

[@owendavies8227]

Don't use the numbeo rankings. They are based on how safe people feel, rather than how dangerous it actually is. Washington DC and Kuala Lumpur have roughtly the same score, despite the fact that one has 40x the number of homicides as the other.

[@nordicinvestor]

Thanks for the advice!

[@perigozin11]

São Paulo has the lowest homicide rate among all capitals.

[@ericreed4535]

​@@perigozin11What's up with all the homicídios ocultos in São Paulo? It's not as safe as you're claiming.

[@perigozin11]

@@ericreed4535 usually this kind of homicides are related to drug trafficking and happen between gang members and/or police, it's usually not a worry for the general popularion. You won't get shot at random like you could get in Rio de Janeiro. The problem in São Paulo is theft and robbery. Personally I don't like the capital because of all its problems and see no reason living there with so many good cities all over the state of São Paulo. I live 80km from the capital in a city I would never imagine being robbed or murdered. The safest state in general and the safest cities in Brazil are all in São Paulo with a few exceptions in Santa Catarina and maybe Paraná.

[@ericreed4535]

@@perigozin11 Homicide rates in the world include gang and drug related murders. São Paulo's rate is much higher than they claim. São Paulo has more uncounted homicides than the rest of Brazil. Their funny math is dishonest.

[@caiorossi4776]

Your take on the water issue is wrong. It was a drought period, similar to what happened in California. It's not lack of infrastructure. Also, SP has fewer murders per capita than Curitiba. And the data on favela dwellers you showed is about the state of SP, not the city.

[@nordicinvestor]

Thanks for the info!

[@claytonkikugawa6657]

@@caiorossi4776 The Walter issue was episódic It dont happens for manu years. The infrastructure is the best in Brasil.

[@ZFCaio]

Fewer murder per capita means nothing SP has 3x the size and 10x more people than Curitiba

[@eduardomoreira6100]

Maybe is better to live in the north of the hemisphere where everything is perfect and boring as hell and very expensive…just a thought 😊

[@nordicinvestor]

I can't speak about all countries in the northern hemisphere but Sweden can be a bit boring (not perfect though)

[@elden5052]

São Paulo is not expensive??? Please, I don’t get how people there survive with the high prices and comparable low salaries.

[@delroywilson9588]

The Numbeo index is based on New York City, so it will always be 100.

[@nordicinvestor]

I did not know that, thanks for the explanation!

[@Silentismn]

I thought São Paulo had the same crime levels of New York. Checking the Crime Map from IBGE we're always on the lower side of pretty much everything, except car theft which is a big problem.

[@delroywilson9588]

@@Silentismn Despite what you hear in the media, crime levels in NYC are quite low, relatively speaking.

[@delroywilson9588]

@@nordicinvestor So if the score is a 30, that means cost of living is 30% of New York's.

[@ericreed4535]

Are Sao Paulos crime data trustworthy? They have a ridiculous amount of homicides "ocultos" which would make the actual rate 2 or three times higher.

[@papi8659]

OMG CGH is my favourite airport in the world , compact , central, efficient ... like a bigger version of London City

[@nordicinvestor]

Maybe I have just been unlucky and experienced CGH when it has been super busy

[@mrmanx89]

@@nordicinvestoror biased! Because you are the first person to say that! One day, a week or a year in Sao Paulo would not be enough to have a positive or negative about it.

[@andret.t.2408]

​@nordicinvestor I'm from São Paulo. CGH operates about 300 flights per day even though it's a small airport, so yea it is ALWAYS busy. But it's inside the city center so that makes up to it. When it was built in the thirties people found weird to build an airport so far away from the city 😂

[@claytonkikugawa6657]

São Paulo stale has less death numbers than 22 states in USA. It hás less death per 100 thousend than Santa Catarina. Floripa hás mucho less treated sewage then SP. Manu Beaches até contaminated with sewage in Floripa. The traffic in Floripa os Very Bad, The lack of decente públic transportation ia very serios in Floripa.

[@nordicinvestor]

Floripa also has it issues, that's very true

[@claytonkikugawa6657]

@nordicinvestor It still a lovely place and I Will come back there in The Future, 🙂

[@marciooliva4447]

São Paulo is one of the 10 ugliest cities in the world according to London "The Times" in 2022 and one of the 5 ugliest cities in the world according to the ranking of the site "For Travel Advice Lovers".

[@nordicinvestor]

I find SP quite pretty

[@Alex-up9fh]

I live in Campinas 100 km of São paulo, my opinion São Paulo is a Belindia, mix Belgium with India. My vision, appearance of Sao Paulo is ugly and dirty, Cities in interior of São Paulo State are more clean. Drugs invaded the city and that destroyed the dowtown

[@nordicinvestor]

The cities in the state of sp are very nice 👍

[@moments6667]

Um grande problema de São Paulo é a migração desordenada e a gigantesca quantidade de favelas a cidade que mais tem favelas no Brasil

[@mario7851]

Pesquisando, fontes oficiais falam claramente que no último censo, diz que a cidade do Brasil que tem a maior concentração percentual vivendo em favelas é Belém e, maior favela do Brasil é a Rocinha na cidade do Rio de Janeiro e, esses dados que citei está tudo lá é só pesquisar.

[@nordicinvestor]

👍

[@Konnen-l9h]

Like any other big city: good to visit not to live

[@nordicinvestor]

👍

[@mrmanx89]

I live in London and its more dangerous than Sao Paulo I can assure you.

[@nordicinvestor]

👍

[@DonnieChoi]

Congonhas is undergoing a massive expansion.

[@nordicinvestor]

That's good 👍

[@phrsngx5675]

Aeroporto de Cungonhas

[@nordicinvestor]

👍

[@mrmanx89]

And there not favelas in the capital. Only one in Morumbi.

[@nordicinvestor]

👍

[@elden5052]

Say what? The far south of São Paulo, it’s not officially a favela, but’s dangerous.

[@francescosilverio7343]

🇧🇷🇧🇷🌅☀️🇧🇷🇧🇷

[@nordicinvestor]

👍

[@mrmanx89]

Well if you don't live there why are you complaining? 😆 stay where you are.

[@nordicinvestor]

👍

[@kraakar]

Neither the best, nor the worst, surely one of the ugliest big cities on Earth (I was born here)

[@nordicinvestor]

👍

[@ricardonascimento9461]

I'm born and raised in São Paulo and to me is just worst!

[@nordicinvestor]

😲

yes, São Paulo has a lot of problems. But here is not the worst city in Brazil. Not by a very long shot. For example, in Rio de Janeiro, if you make a wrong turn, you may end up dead by drug traffic gangs.

[@nordicinvestor]

Very true, Rio is very dangerous

[@RogerioRamos-jy5ub]

Hello

[@nordicinvestor]

👍

[@luanfelipecosta]

Congonhas airport is a bus station for flying busses. hahaha

[@nordicinvestor]

😂

[@shannonbruce5150]

Best touristic attraction in Sao Paulo is called "Scandallo". I heard you can find a lot of friendly locals there

[@nordicinvestor]

👍

[@evaskjerd]

Isn't it a place of luxury prostitution?? 🙈🙈😂😂 Raiam Santos told this some weeks ago😆

[@elden5052]

I see a lot of offended paulistanos in the comments here, funny. I’m from there myself, left long ago and don’t miss living there, at all. It’s ok to visit, but live, no thanks.

[@nordicinvestor]

😂

[@louganshahn2620]

I'm from Brazil, I live in the South region and I have no idea why you gringos love SP, we usually tend to avoid it at all costs. Funny, huh? Once you meet the South you never want to go back to SP/RJ. Unluckly you gringos just focus on the "popular" regions, ignoring the rest which is incredibly better.

[@nordicinvestor]

I really like living in the south but I like to visit SP/RJ

[@richardbroder]

I'm also from the South (Curitiba) and I love São Paulo. This view that "why do gringos like to visit Rio and São Paulo, but not the South which is more developed?" is mostly an arrogant view from people of the South. Brazil's South is really more developed than other places, but do you think that is going to impress a foreigner like the owner of this channel who comes from Sweeden? Any place on Sweeden is 1000x more developed than Curitiba. What foreigners want to see when they come to Brazil is what they DON'T have in their home countries. What they DON'T have is what places like São Paulo and Rio have to offer. An exotic (and chaotic) beauty with a varied and warm population they you DON'T see in first world nations: the South doesn't have that. In essence, Brazil's South is just a worsened version of Europe. No one that is from outside of Brazil is impressed by a place like Balneário Camboriú. BC is what happens if you get Dubai (which is, in it own, already a very dubious place) and worsen it in every aspect; only Brazilians are impressed by Camboriú, because Brazilians are easily impressed (deslumbrados). If you want to see a bunch of white people with European descendance and cleaner cities, than it is easier to just go to Europe instead of going to Brazil's South.