スーパーバトル!! F50 ムルシエラゴ ゲンバラ 911GT2 NSX-R【Best MOTORing】2002

スーパーバトル!! F50 ムルシエラゴ ゲンバラ 911GT2 NSX-R【Best MOTORing】2002
2002年ベストモータリング12月号収録。ついにフェラーリF50がベスモバトルに登場！ 対するは12気筒エンジン搭載のランボルギーニ・ムルシエラゴ、さらにポルシェ勢はGT2、カレラ4S、さらにゲンバラチューニングのGT500。そして、国産代表はNSXタイプR02。
ENTRY CAR
Ferrari F50
LAMBORGHINI MURCIELAGO
PORSCHE 911 GT2
GEMBALLA 996 BITURBO GT500
PORSCHE 911 Carrera 4S
HONDA NSX TYPE R
BMW Z8
DRIVER　
黒澤元治 / Motoharu Kurosawa　　中谷明彦 / Akihiko Nakaya　　　　　
服部尚貴 / Naomi Hattori　　黒澤琢弥 / Takuya Kurosawa　
桂 伸一 / Shinichi Katsura　　道上 龍 / Ryou Michigami
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[@darochachristophe184]

time when supercars could still be enjoyed with manual gearbox I love N/A, I LOVE 6 MT!!! for ever the best

[@Alps6408]

Da Rocha Christophe also power wasn’t too stupid, now it’s all 7-1000bhp+ stuff

[@michaelpereyra6288]

Yes

[@michaelpereyra6288]

I really love they NSX

@Riviere Marc 8 times ? You meant 7 times I guess ?

[@TheBb6prelude]

Cristopher Reeves really? Those poor cars all had 450-600 hp and barely can beat a 275 hp car. That’s not impressive.

[@saredofuriko6231]

当時1分38秒台で走るF50は、バカっ速だな～と思ってたけど、 まさかこの7年後に1分34秒台で走る国産車が出てくるとは、 この時は夢にも思わなかったです。

[@user-wr1nn4ji5f]

See Fss F50は、速さを求めるよりも「旧車だけどこんなに速いんだぞーー」と思いながら昔ながらのマニュアルを楽しむ車ですね。

[@bmfox1423]

縁石乗っちゃダメっつたでしょお父さんw

[@pan2743]

琢弥さんの「縁石乗っちゃダメっつったでしょお父さん！」が妙にツボった

[@917k8]

いつまで経ってもルールを守れない漢…。 走りも人柄も 昔から好きだけど それでもやっぱり 人を殺めたあのレースは忘れられないんです。

[@user-hx5pc1fn8g]

6:12

[@user-zl4zf7wt7s]

​@@917k8 そうなんですか、 どんなレース内容だったか詳しく知らないのに、こんな事考えるのはどうかとは思いつつ 僕も「人を殺めた性質の片鱗が見えた…」と、図らずも思ってしまいました 人柄も好きですし、むろん能力の高さも認めてるんですけどね。

[@kt-fs3ql]

@@917k8 あのレースの動画が公開されましたけど中谷さんも元編集長の人も元さんが何故原因にされたのか分からないと言ってましたけどね。自分も見ましたけど元さんの方が元々前で普通に自分のラインで１コーナーに入っていってる元さんに後ろから来て強引にアウトからいって勝手に元さんの車両に引っ掛けて事故って、その引っ掛けけて事故った車両のせいで後続が事故し、その車に乗っていた方が亡くなった。亡くなったかたの父は元さんに元さんが悪いんじゃないと仰っていたとか。当時の元さんは日産から独立してプライベーターになっていて潰しにかかられていたってお話ですけどね。当時の日産は今の日産とは違って財閥系で強いというか恐い存在でしたので、ガンさんだけが責任を負わされたってお話もあります。

[@kt-fs3ql]

​@@user-zl4zf7wt7s あのレースの動画が公開されましたけど中谷さんも元編集長の人も元さんが何故原因にされたのか分からないと言ってましたけどね。自分も見ましたけど元さんの方が元々前で普通に自分のラインで１コーナーに入っていってる元さんに後ろから来て強引にアウトから言って勝手に元さんの車両に引っ掛けて事故っって、その引っ掛けた車両のせいで事故した車の方が亡くなった。当時の元さんは日産から独立してプライベーターになっていて潰しにかかられていたってお話ですけどね。当時の日産は今の日産とは違って財閥系で強いというか恐い存在でした。独立する人間に冷たいっていうあれで、ガンさんだけが責任を負わされたってお話もあります。

[@rehsab01]

Woot! Both the Ferrari F50 and Porsche GT2 are back again, these two cars are in a class of their own (just like the Ferrari F40). And like the epic Suzuka battle, they are always in front while the other cars are left trailing behind. Hats off to Gan-san, as always pushing any car he drives very hard. Trying to keep up with both Ferrari F50 and Porsche GT2 while battling out with the Lamborghini Murcielago in an underpowered Honda NSX Type R is not an easy feat....

[@Itsuptoyouandme]

NSX needed a supercharger, it was easily the best handling car, nimble and easy to throw around. One would only imagine if Honda put in a v10 in it from their F1 stock it would have damaged many european egos.

[@derbigpr500]

They always drive Japanese cars to the limit and take it easy with foreign cars, especially Lambo and Ferrari. Not even tire squealing. Look how slowly he's shifting gears in the Lambo, how early and gently he's turning, not a single correction on the steering. It's far from the limit. On the other hand look at the NSX-R, driving the crap out of it, like he stole it. Probably because they don't wanna crash or damage exotics and also make the Japanese cars look better.

[@derbigpr500]

TPP Totalitarian Paedo Power Damaged European egos? You sound like you're jealous of Europe and suffer from an inferiority complex. Japanese can only dream of making cars as good as Europe does. And the same is true for the rest of the world. Only people who are jealous or clueless would deny that the best cars in the world come from Europe, and the gap is quite big, especially when you take into consideration the amount of engineering innovation in Europe that the rest of the world copies and tries to match, but can't. Without Europe leading the way, the rest of the worlds car manufacturers would make far worse cars as well.

[@cthedosboss5113]

@@derbigpr500 lol so did that lmabo 7:53 the nsx was nowhere near its limits the nsx shifted faster bc it needed too u shift a i4 more frequant than a v10 or 12

[@cthedosboss5113]

the little v6 that could love euro cars too very nice cars

[@05tegtyper]

How about that NSX-R!! Completely underpowered by the rest of the fields standards but held its own. Also, Gan San is the OG

[@BlitzkriegRap]

That 6 speed first edition Muricelago is the best Murcielago!!

[@Eidrian111]

What about the 6 speed lp640? And the very few manual SV’s?

[@peekaboo1575]

I agree. The design changes made by the LP & SV series spoiled a bit IMO. Funnily enough the same happened to the Countach & Diablo. My bad for answering a 3yo comment but I couldn't resist. :^)

[@michaelpereyra6288]

NSX's driver amazing

[@Eidrian111]

Mark Beattie in whatever car Gansan is he absolutely push it beyond its limits.

[@JMDrives]

@@markbeattie1553 That's just how the NSX is designed and engineered to be driven -- Hard. What it lacks on the power gains on it's handling and redlining. (Where the Vtec mostly is.)

[@ddtailhappy3662]

Hae was Honda's development driver and had chance to drive F1 with a yearly contract.

[@wh5763]

なぜガンさんがF50乗らないの？ 今までずっとガンさんがバトル時は担当してたんだから それにしても500馬力オーバー相手にあっこまで張り合える280馬力NSXに脱帽！

[@amg190e5]

タイプR用のC32Bは実計測３２０馬力あるんですけどね。 後期型のパッケージングと、空力性能に専用設計タイヤその他諸々の賜物ですね。

[@Shahrimannn]

Man, F50 just looks so cool and dashing. Best looking car IMO.

[@peter9style]

Legend has it that this gt2 is the biggest pain in the ass to drive fast. All the generations after became “raceable”. Respect for handling the beast

[@MIKEK3NT]

Search LonMan GT2 it shows how hard that car is to drive

[@ryuji355136]

9:07～　 琢弥「コントロールラインの前に抜けんじゃねぇかコレ…（ブォ～ン）…アハハッ(笑)」 ガン「うぁ～!!琢弥※△％？＄◆」

[@spyridonlazos8879]

PORSCHE LAMBORGHINI FERRARI, TRUE LEGENDS

The F50 and the Murciélago are awesome! Hearing their V12 engines are music for my ears!

[@user-yaima0134]

約束を破るジジィwww

[@03tk32]

NSXはガンさん以外が乗ってたらもう少し差が開いてたかも知れないよねw まぁそれ抜きにしてもやっぱり速いわwww

[@Pete762]

gansan pushing 110% haha

[@livinthesound5182]

gansan minimum is 110%

[@PROcrastiDRIVESVofficial]

THAT SAVE AT 7:43 IN THE MURCIELAGO WAS AMAZING!!!!!!!!! Seriously, this guys reactions are not human!! NSX driver can save the slide with throttle. To catch a AWD Lamborghini when you have a lot of grip you need to have superhuman reflexes!!!

[@PROcrastiDRIVESVofficial]

Both NSX and Murcielago driver demonstrated brake drifting in mid engined cars - VERY scary!! AMAZING DRIVING SKILLS!!

[@teslaboi1822]

Mid engine cars are unstable when coasting/deceleraring/braking due to the massive back weight being transfered suddenly to the front.

[@oooooooofxxooooo1508]

デザインとかエンジン音が外車は魅力的だなぁ 値段高いだけのことはある 速さ求めるならGT-Rとかがコスパもいいのかもしれんが、速さだけじゃないよね

[@simai5814]

nsxってすごい

[@Harolds0]

NSX grips like crazy

[@baboulinetbaboulinet4580]

NSX R has always semi-slick tires.

[@GuzziHeroV50]

Good to hear a commentator who can say Murcielago correctly!

[@RabihSaadguitars]

Again one of the best racing video on youtube.. That F50 makes minced meat of everyone in all Videos...And What about that F1 sound!!!???

[@twincammikev]

F40 would of had it in last race before this but got stuck in traffic...

[@Lunion100]

@@twincammikev FALSE, watch that race again with english subtitles, Kurosawa (F50 driver) slowed down for security in the last part!!! F40 won all races until F50 appeared in the circuit. F50 won the match, and not only that, it was clearly superior.

[@DolleHengst]

@@twincammikev F40 is overrated. The 288GTO on which it is based is a better car in most circumstances. A Porsche 959S easily outperforms an F40. And the F50 is in another league. Built like an F1 car (carbon tub with engine/gearbox bolted directly to it. Rear suspension attached to gearbox, actual F1 engine) Way better aerodynamics and handling at higher speeds. Around the Ring, F50 annihilates F40

[@Giltrucks]

V12 is life!

[@Captainvalchiria]

that nsx is shradding, amazing drving

[@ddtailhappy3662]

Please learn Motoharu Kurosawa.

[@gumpy4960]

The nsxr is the real winner, keeping up with cars with far more power

[@TheJStoney]

Gumpy 49 because they weren’t pushing as hard as the NSX driver.

[@TheBb6prelude]

Selig that’s because the cars had nothing else to give. Those are all world class drivers with many professional wins. Drivers from formula 1,jgtc etc...

[@gumpy4960]

Selig the lambo driver nearly went completely off track, trust me he was trying

[@mertlad4661]

That nsx looks really fun to drive.

[@o.k.3230]

やっぱF50だな。 確かにクラスを考えればNSX-Rも相当凄いけど、タイムや走行性能以上に音やボディを始めとする官能的で非日常的な世界に引きずり込ませるほどの魅力がある国産車は今でも存在しないね。

[@user-dn6ub6ie4c]

Keitaro OSHIME Ｓ２０００はボディがハイXボーンフレームで剛性が高いですし9000回転まで回るエンジンＶＴＥＣサウンドで十分官能的だと思いますよ 50対50で最適な重量配分になってますし

[@o.k.3230]

やんカナ 確かにs2000やGTRも値段を考えるととんでもなく凄い車ですが、f50で感じ取れ凄さとはまた違うんですよね。f50とかランボとかは、これらを再現する為にどのパーツにもお金を惜しみ無く注ぎ込んだとも感じ取れる様な質感をも兼ね備えてるドリームカー的な意味でですね

[@user-dn6ub6ie4c]

Keitaro OSHIME F50って質感とかサウンド吹け上がりすべてがレーシングカーみたいな作りですよね

[@RINKSTT]

音だけで言えばLFAはほんと凄いけど見た目が万人受けしないよね。

[@AaaaAaaa-qh8bg]

RINKSTT ホントはっきりわかれますよね……(俺は大好き

[@jonathanwilson712]

The f50 looks so good on the track.

[@radjiictoi9027]

Une machine de guerre la f50... magnifique😍😍😍 La belle époque où on prenait un vrai pied à la conduite

On peut toujours s'amuser sur circuit, il y a toujours des très bonnes GT !

[@spoon654]

F50=520cv !!! 🐢

[@user-zu4cf6be7w]

Nakaya loves Porsche very much

[@MrVICE-kt1mb]

オープニング見ると90年代のAV思い出すわ

[@user-pr3eo8tq4d]

you can tell they weren't pushing that f50 to 100% but still amazing video, thanks for the upload

[@lexburen5932]

yeah offcourse, if they crash it, they crash ALOT of money :)

[@bromero831]

if I'm correct the Ferrari f50 never got dethrone by any other car in best motoring. while the f40 got beat by the f50 in suzuka .

[@jacobbranstetter3987]

Bruce Romero Yeah, that sounds about right. The F40 was catching up to the F50 by the end though.

[@felipefernandes9053]

Yeap, F50 had 3/3 victories in BM series.

[@L.r.e_motorsport]

Jacob Branstetter F40 caught alright lol, to the point he ran off track, I feel like the F50 would still have stayed in front, not by miles, but I think it would have held it’s position

[@ariefm.m5006]

F50 is GT1 car class different for Porsche GT2 etc

[@zrxkawasaki8407]

ムルシエラゴやっぱかっけー

[@xsbgtr]

Finally an official channel? I have been waiting a while (like ten years or so)

[@AlucarDr.7]

NSX is the Best 😎

[@Catalina._]

Old NSX : - Underpowered - But corners the fastest New NSX : - Underpowered - Corners not faster than other supercars

[@felipefernandes9053]

Old Honda engines in F1: - Win 87 with Williams team. - Wins 88,89,90 and 91 with Mclaren team. Recents Honda engines in F1: - 2015: 9th to 10 (Mclaren) - 2016: 6th to 11 (Mclaren) - 2017: 9th to 10 (Mclaren) - 2018: 9th to 10 (Toro Rosso)

[@DerangedSloth555]

That's what happens when you let Americans build the NSX.

[@mat5267]

DerangedSloth555 The NSX in this video is a 2002-2005 NSX type R, built in Japan.

[@TheBb6prelude]

Katheryn at least it’s faster than the GTr

[@frankpecorelli8569]

F50 corners way better than nsx. You get what you pay for

[@user-pi4ot1pz2y]

この５年後F50を越える国産車が登場することになるとは

[@peter9style]

Mad driving skills. Especially that GT2 is supposed to be one of the bitchiest and most unforgiving 911 to drive on the limit.

[@blubblubston1452]

F50!

[@user-kw7kt8pk4e]

ゲームの話で申し訳ないけれどもグランツーリスモでNSX Rはピーキーだけれども運転しやすかった思い出があります

[@amp888]

I wonder if there was something wrong with the differential in the Gemballa. To see that much wheelspin from the inside rear wheel on corner exit at 5:10 is very strange.

[@sukajaa6426]

We dont need power,,,stability is what we need nsxr

[@michaelpereyra6288]

Nsx is the best one

[@user-mt4vw5xc4x]

280馬力規制の為に、どんなにその中で速くできるかをホンダが本気で作り上げたクルマはやっぱり違う。 それが、これだけ馬力差のある車たちと争えることだと思う

[@luke_y_444]

Fantastic video =)

[@gaetanomessina7525]

And they said that the F-50 has a bad performance.... Bullshit. The F-50 is a car of dreams in all senses. Performance, Sound, and Estetics.

[@tough_dog]

9:15 ガンさん「うわぁ～、タクヤでひひゃ…」

[@gse3580]

2410yuuta 新宿二丁目の....

[@ubercooper]

Thanks for the upload! Translated: We're going to sandbag everything so the NSX does better.

[@zaheerkader7426]

You are the greatest.. All others are pretenders to the throne

[@skyliner32gtr65]

In my heart there's only 2 ppl that knows how to tame the NSX on the race track #1. Ayton Senna #2. Keiichi Tsuchiya.... but that's my personal option.

[@felipefernandes9053]

Gan San too !

[@irfaan7868]

@@felipefernandes9053 Gan san is an OG !

[@egloryone101761]

ガンさん、カッコいい！！

[@user-hd3nn8gt2g]

English subtitles please

[@hikakin_mania440]

F50音がいいな

[@OnPointFirearms]

Murci driver needs a new helmet. Got a bad dent in his.

[@viktor4860]

My Fiesta will take them all

[@user-nf6wi7lp2r]

500馬力オーバーの化け物たちに280馬力なのにあんなにインフィールドだけで勝負できるんか。運動性能半端ないな

[@JIANYM36]

Too bad not in english. Awesome racing classic like these

[@Taco-bomb-GTA]

F50 beautiful sound , I was wondering when they gonna introduces F50 and 512 TR on GT Sport .

[@cookedit]

,F50 is to GT Sport coming next month. :)

[@derbigpr500]

They always drive Japanese cars to the limit and take it easy with foreign cars, especially Lambo and Ferrari. Not even tire squealing. Look how slowly he's shifting gears in the Lambo, how early and gently he's turning, not a single correction on the steering. It's far from the limit. On the other hand look at the NSX-R, driving the crap out of it, like he stole it. Probably because they don't wanna crash or damage exotics and also make the Japanese cars look better.

[@felipefernandes9053]

I agree with you but that NSX-R it´s truly fast! Sport Auto (German car magazine) did 1:14.6 in Hockenheim Short Track, fast than 360 Modena and equal to a 911(996) Turbo. But, the proper BM shows in Fuji (a bigger track) a Modena did a better lap time than a NSX-R.

[@TheBb6prelude]

BeyerT1 just more excuses

[@TheBb6prelude]

BeyerT1 there’s even formula 1 drivers there and all of them have won championships.

[@table5522]

Grand turismo in 480p?

[@spoon654]

Gan-san 🥇🥇🥇🙇🙇🙇🙇🙇🇵🇪

[@n7qbss815]

F50のラスボス感...

[@Yuli-bv5zi]

6:08

[@wh5763]

がんさんがF50乗らなきゃ。 スーパーバトル2000と筑波のバトルクライマックスではがんさんF50乗ってたし

[@220rb]

10:43 耳の穴ほじくってるw

[@Taco-bomb-GTA]

The sound of the F50 is a Fu#&¥ Orgasm !!!

[@spoon654]

*Honda NSX 280 hp !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🙇*

[@997speedy]

Sorry for the nube question but what is the reason for dabbing the brakes in straight lines?

[@ayahgabut6931]

Reducing wheel spin. Maybe 😁

[@kazm132]

Heavy cars have braking problems.

[@pgr3290]

The F50 is actually slower than the F40. Less power, more weight. Surprised it beat the GT2 that comfortably to be honest, they seem fairly closely matched.

[@paulthomson9709]

It's actually faster around tracks than the f40 , it timed faster round ferraris fiorano track than f40 to

[@FinSynthMusic]

@@paulthomson9709 It depends on the track obviously. On a curvy track yes, F50 probably has the advantage.

[@pjwrmgow828]

What track is this?

[@bdcarlitosway]

Wish I could understand what is being said.

[@lexburen5932]

learn japanese

[@Bbook77]

初出演で高級車に乗せられてレースしろって酷だなあｗ

[@MDDeGrande1994]

Where's the Z8?

[@joaocosta3838]

Rolling start....????

[@tritonefreeze4058]

Joao Costa maybe they didn’t want to damage the transmissions.

[@ngekseng]

carrera 4s =(...got bullied

[@migueldominguez9934]

Pinches chinitos como le ponen crema a sus tacos.

[@optimusmaximus56]

The Lambo was very disappointing i don't know is it the driver or the car which performed so bad?

It's Tsuchiya driving the Murcielago, I guess he's not very much involved when it's not a Toyota ! Like "if I'm not paid fuck it I'm just gonna stroll".

[@tritonefreeze4058]

Yassine Saïdi it was Kurosawa Takuya in the Lambo

[@ayahgabut6931]

In top gear test track, murcie lose to a lancer evo. Maybe old version of murcie isn't track oriented car. Btw, I'm a lambo big fans

[@Granturisman]

Gran Turismo 6 in real life

[@eldora-channel]

縁石😂

[@user-ic1he2pk9q]

高級車で240kmは最速だな‼︎

[@Shifty_Malone]

Remember when Ferrari built cars that could beat a Porsche?

[@horsepower523]

Ferrari is simply the best and lambo is just an ugly piece of shit. Forza Ferrari!

[@kujiradakazusa]

半蔵さんみたくカメラ目線でずっと話せばいいのに、何故中谷さんはガメラ目線、正面、カメラ目線を繰り返すんだろう？

[@constantijnxenakis5357]

Lamborghini is shit in comparising with Ferrari !

[@user-ls9ts2dv5m]

ワイの車最下位やないかーいｗ

[@fayazsirkhot8577]

Every video with NSX is rigged. Holding up supercars, mxm

[@migueldominguez9934]

🤔🤔🤔 NSX?👎

[@user-rq8fq9sm5w]

昔、親父が新車でNSX買って、つまんねー車だっ！って言って一年もしない内に売り払ってたなぁ…

[@user-ug3uz1qu9u]

下手くそが乗っても何もわからないでしょープロが乗る車やねー笑笑

[@user-bd1um7on4c]

お父様が乗ってらしたのはノーマルのNSXでタイプRでは無いのでは？ F1のテクノロジーやレーシングスピリットをつぎ込んでいる究極がRなのに対してノーマルはどちらかと言うと街乗り風なのでレーシング思考の方からしたらつまらないと言われても致し方ないかと

[@user-tb1hb6io2s]

街を流す程度では、ハイカムに切り替わらないから、エンジン音を含め、目線以外は普通の乗用車に乗っている様に感じるからねーw

[@ku3310]

素人にピュアスポーツの良さなんてわかんねーんだから四駆ターボでも乗っときゃいいんだよ コーナー適当でもそこそこ速いし、踏めば加速感はダントツだしな

[@misono2]

お父様はどういったクルマが好みなのでしょうか…

[@CCP_zhongguo_sai_B]

Vey fake race. . .