the original plot of Zootopia of the tame collar :part 3, it all comes to an end

[@sabwo2976]

I will download a audio mixer I promise, next time I upload tell me If my audio is better

[@jaytep5647]

Your storytelling and humor are great! 11/10 voice acting :)

[@im_gunna_stab_myself]

Am I tripping or was there mine craft music in the background at one stage? Lol, loved the video otherwise ;)

[@sabwo2976]

​@@im_gunna_stab_myself there was Minecraft music everywhere, specifically, Aria math, as it is the best song of all time

[@sabwo2976]

@@jaytep5647 aww, thank you

[@mayagoldberg3421]

do you have discord? you're awesome

[@illiteratemochi4150]

Strange how the bad guy was a pig considering how pigs are terrifying and are definitely more omnivorous than herbivorous. They can even be considered predators in many situations

[@yu5hii]

a-animal farm ?!?!

[@eisgnom7383]

​@@yu5hiino. Boars are the worst.

[@DeXyfero]

@@eisgnom7383 pigs turn into boars again after they have been in the wild for a few months

[@eisgnom7383]

@@DeXyfero that's cool I didn't know that.

[@freshbread4039]

pigs can eat every part of the human body except for teeth. also cops getting called pigs. something to consider

[@lolidk839]

Maybe they can make a sequel to Zootopia where their grandparents tell them when they were younger predators had to wear those tame collars

[@finnwheadon8547]

Juduys grandma was a farmer

[@isukatnames]

That would be absolutely the greatest thing if they do that

[@lolidk839]

@@finnwheadon8547 who said it had to be her grandma, it could of been her grandad or her grandma's sister and just never told anyone. They could have a scene where it's revealed and everyone is shocked.

[@tornadomash00]

what about nick's grandparents

[@greenpiersystem]

If it were the grandparents bringing this into the fold, Judy's grandparents would probably tell her to stay away from Nick because they remember the collars (remember that her parents were against any actual achievement because she could get hurt, and that City Center specifically worried them. That opinion is passed down from somewhere...) while Nick's grandparents would probably end up connecting back through the muzzle trauma (Nick was severely traumatized by that, but he remembers his mother trying incredibly hard to push him out into the world successfully despite most of his peers pushing back. His grandparents would probably weave the tame collars through that the same way there are still living family members who know former slaves or sharecroppers today. Nick is still dealing with stigma, but his formers probably had to deal with the shock collar or worse, so that's how I'd think Nick would have the two connected.) Judy would get the earlier copy of the "we are only trying to protect you" story, while Nick would learn that he's just the newest member of a long chain of abuse, with his grandparents getting collars locked on at the same age he was being gagged with a muzzle.

[@canoistercat]

The original plot of this movie was so beautiful, this wouldve definitely made me tear up... SUCH A SHAME THEY DDINT KEEP IT WHY WHYYYYY

[@overthegardenwall7143]

probably too dark for family audiences but idk

[@canoistercat]

@@overthegardenwall7143 yeah, i know that is the main reason. but disney back then though.

[@Quinold]

they probably decided that the collar is something a broad audience wouldn't like. It's dark and depressing and Disney probably stepped in and told them to change it. It's a lot more powerful though and a part of me wishes that they kept it like that.

[@nightmare303killer4]

@@overthegardenwall7143 i heard it was because the plot was too confusing or complicated for younger audiences to understand

[@guarddoggo]

Someone should make this movie happen like that fan-made zootopia 2. So much of the plot is already there so it’s definitely possible

[@andrewleyton6689]

Honestly think it should be its own movie instead of reuse for the sequels

[@CryptidCatArtz]

It would actually make more sense for a prequel rather than sequel (if they change the characters of course)

[@debbie5839]

Nah but we need the characters!

[@OrangeC7]

It would honestly be great if they made a movie with this plot and it just takes place in the same universe or something. I'm not counting on it, though

[@blazekeaveny645]

I think it could be its own show instead, spreading the story over several epizode

[@Michael_1979]

​@@blazekeaveny645 no, i think that would unneccesarily stretch it

[@EdJustEds]

I’m gonna be completely honest, I like this way more than the one they went with. However I would say that it would be better as a show, not a movie as it is too long and would have been too fast. I love how there are barely any tropes or cliches in it and I love how it’s about Nick and not Judy, with Judy being a secondary protagonist. Judy is so much more interesting in this version as she is more stubborn and dislikable which, in turn, makes her MORE interesting. It feels so much more natural as I think animals would probably be predator-ist. The plot of him owning a theme park is genius but I do think he should have it for a little longer. The shock collar is such a horrific idea that would actually be really cool. It is an interesting concept that not many people would dare put in a movie but would be a box office hit and this one is much more into the ‘spy / dark cop’ genre than the other one they went with. Overall, it is a great idea that was cancelled and I would love to see it. It would have been gut wrenching and, if they brought it back, it could save Disney from their lack in popularity recently

[@snekiikens]

replying to ur first point ("itd be better as a show") this is the main plot, theyd flesh it out alot more and add new scenes n stuff in the actual movie but i see where ur coming from and j agree with everying else :D

[@fahejastekercs3826]

Yeah, this movie would be a much better plot, don’t get me wrong I love the movie that got published but I’d definitely want to see this as a complete movie. You were right this would be a long movie, but I’d rather watch it as a movie than a show, but I agree with everything other than that! :D

[@teaqueen7152]

If want something with these types of concepts and topics, you show check out Beastars. It's an anime that has a world that operates similarly to Zootopia (humanoid animals etc.). It has 2 seasons right now but it's much more dark and serious than Zootopia. The main character is Legoshi, a wolf, and Haru, a bunny. Legoshi falls in love with Haru but there are a lot of issues in their relationship; socially, the fact that they're different species and the predator/prey thing. It's quite interesting on topics like the black market where carnivores feast and the ethical parts of consuming other living beings.

[@SleekHeroo]

​@@teaqueen7152I can't wait for season 3 bro 😭

[@TheUltima_Werewolf]

I wish thus would be turned into a show one day

[@Firelord8447]

Is it just me or is this more entertaining than the actual movie

[@Dolphanatic]

It can be fun to look through deleted scenes from a movie and imagine what could've been. Toy Story went through a similar rewrite after Pixar realized that making Woody a villain wasn't working for them. It's just a part of the writing process, which can be interesting on its own.

[@kinyacat5919]

Honestly and surprisingly same here...

[@user-gp5yz5yz4x]

​@@Dolphanatic however, usually the prototype is less interesting than the final product, this movie (the original is solid but it's not this good) and wish are two examples imo

[@Dolphanatic]

@@user-gp5yz5yz4x I honestly don't think the early version of Zootopia would've been as good. Everyone involved in the production of the movie who talked about the early version described it as being disjointed before the rewrite. If anything, I think Wish only further proves that point, seeing as that movie was in a similar situation to what happened with Zootopia, but instead of delaying the film's release to rewrite the movie, Disney simply rushed it out to theaters in its unfinished and disjointed state, resulting in the mess we have today.

[@stuffiesquad9702]

I would love to see this is in a actual movie great job bro

[@sunstone_xd8977]

SAMEEEEEEE TY FOR DESCRIBING IT DUDE

[@watermelondoge3311]

Same

[@peonyblue4]

The whole movie should be narrated by him obviously

[@TylerTMG]

Samr

[@JP-uf9sh]

I give you so much credit just for the wolf whistle XD

[@kaputt_jay3873]

IKR I HEARD THAT XD

[@amabelgarnetyanson7337]

*3:00*

[@The_Three_Monkeyteers]

IKR I wonder how he made it play when I paused the video lol.

[@VideobotStudiosOfficial]

Is that Death The Wolf’s whistle from Puss in Boots: The Last Wish?

[@aysegul-fo4tr]

Yes

[@Jebbtube]

I wish this OG plot had been used in the movie, and I hope they find a plausible way to use some of these plot points in the sequel.

[@OrangeC7]

If the sequel has a scene anything like the "taming party" scene, it'll automatically win in my book.

[@Crimsonlee2XX]

Perhaps an alternate future or reality separate from the movie we saw.

[@dooplon5083]

​@@Crimsonlee2XXor Maybe another country of animals?

[@PatrykProLis]

yes i olso think abaut that

[@Davidledonkayy]

no a prequel would fit better for this theme

[@olivia07694]

"Wait these are Nighthowlers? I thought they would look like we-" * *Death whistle* * AJVPKSVPJAVP

[@CAL-q5h]

Death is coming💀

[@Zurui_Kitsune]

Instant PTSD

[@arcticfluffyfoxy]

@@CAL-q5h so don't leave him waiting

[@MorganBell-h6n]

I was fixing to say the same thing!!!!

[@PTCLegacy777]

3:01 DEATH WHISTLE

[@Sandstimes]

The sheep in wolf's clothes is funny but I think it also would've been meaningful to use it as a way to explore members of marginalized groups who side with the oppressors, to be "one of the good ones", to be spared, etc. Maybe this could've been a more fleshed out character who's arc culminates in him being betrayed by the oppressors and finding out there was no "being spared", they were going to toss him away the moment he wasn't useful to them regardless, the only correct course of action is to fight against tyranny

[@dragonfan8647]

I was just going to say I agree, but I got inspired and wrote this whole thing: The wolf rounded the corner, once more pointing the gun with the dreadful nighthowler darts at Nick, who frantically tried to keep his heart rate down. Judy was nowhere in sight. "Why are you doing this?" Nick cried. "You're a pred, too. Why do you want them to hate us?" The wolf's finger on the trigger halted. "It's because of pred like you that they hate us. Preds who remove their collar, so they can hunt and eat flesh. Without you, prey'd feel much safer around us." "N- no, I don't want that at all. I just want to be able to feel-" "Liar," the wolf hissed. "Don't tell me you've never bitten anyone before." Nick fought to push down the surge of anger inside him. "Only because you made me." "You were eventually going to anyway. It's in your nature. I'm just helping you see that." Nick said nothing. There was no point in arguing against the wolf's insanity. He had find a way to escape. The wolf continued. "Do have any idea how many of your customers want their collar off for that reason?" He snarled. "And you're helping them!" The light on the wolf's collar blinked yellow. Nick's breath hitched. That could be his escape. The wolf breathed in deeply, held it for a moment and let out a heavy sigh. The light on the collar pinged back to green. Then he re-aimed his gun. "You should have learned to control yourself, feral." Nick closed his eyes. He heard the click. A yelp soon followed, but it wasn't his own. He cautiously opened his eyes. Judy was standing behind the wolf, who had one of her tranquillisers stuck in his butt. She darted past the wobbling wolf, who made a fruitless effort to grab her. "Nick, are you okay?" "Yeah, you're just in time." Despite his drug-induced wavering the wolf was still standing, even advancing towards them. "Uh, Judy, he's not going down." Judy cocked her dart gun, then answered alarmed: "And I'm all out of tranqs. Run!" * The tranquilliser had worn of, but Wolfy was now handcuffed inside a police van. That was worrying. The van stopped and a swine police officer escorted him into a building. Wolfy's mood lifted when he saw his employer. "Mayor Sweetson," he greeted. "Thank you." "You're welcome," she answered. "Where do you keep the serum?" "In a safe in my hotel room, but I also have a couple capsules strapped to my thigh right now." The mayor retrieved the serum from his body. She turned to the officer. "Put him in one of the cells." Wolfy was taken aback. "But I've never taken my collar off. I'm not one of them." He was ignored. "I helped you. I did what you asked." "And your help has been greatly appreciated. Now take him away. I have a meeting with some dancers." The swine started pushing him down a hallway. * While Nick was removing the collars from the innocent imprisoned predators, Judy pushed a chair to the last cell door and opened the window hatch. Inside stood the wolf mercenary. He walked over to the door and leaned against it to look through its window. "Why are you helping them?" he asked. "Aren't you afraid they're going to eat you?" Judy shook her head. "Predators aren't inherently dangerous. That's a lie. I know you trusted mayor Sweetson - I did too - but she is planning to use that lie to kill predators. All of you." Wolfy's eyes diverted to Nick who had come to stand beside her. "Did he tell you that? You can't trust a fox." "No, she told me herself." Judy took her carrot shaped microphone and played the recording. _"You hired the wolf?"_ Sounded her own tinny voice from the recording. _Sweetson laughed. "No need to worry, sergeant Hopps. Of course he'll be executed with the rest of them when he's no longer useful."_ Wolfy looked shocked. "N-" he started, but the light of his collar turned red. He howled in pain. Guilt washed over Judy. This was the third time this week she witnessed it up close. How could she ever have believed those things were good? Panting, Wolfy retreated back into his cell. "Wait, stay here," said Nick. Wolfy regarded him with suspicion. "Come," Nick insisted. Wolfy returned to the window. "What?" he growled. Nick used the key to open the collar and removed it. Wolfy's hands shot to his neck in panic. "No, what did you do? Give it back." Judy had to hop to the ground as he stuck his arm out of the window and flailed it around frantically trying to retrieve collar. She looked at Nick. He was clutching the collar and watched Wolfy in horror. She touched his hand. "Are you okay?" "Everyone's always been relieved when I took it off," he answered softly. "You think I'm going to help you now?" Wolfy screamed from his cell. "You really think I won't be dangerous when you let me out of here?" "No," Nick answered, "and we're not going to let you out either. No way!" He threw the collar away. "But you don't deserve to be in pain either." Wolfy shrieked as the collar fell beyond his reach. Then he slumped down to the floor of his cell. At that moment, a group of swine entered the prison room. The freed preds fled towards the door at the other end. In their wild panic the mob knocked Judy down. But she got back up and started running. However, at the door she realised her microphone wasn't in her pocket. "No, the recording! I dropped it!" "I see it." Nick ran back past her. Judy turned around. She saw it laying next to Wolfy's cell door. The swines were charging through the room fast. Nick nearly grabbed the microphone, when a hoof stomped down on it, pulverising the small plastic carrot. The swine raised a baton. Wolfy's hand shot out of the cell door and grabbed the baton, preventing the swine from attacking. Nick looked up in surprise. "Thanks." "Just go," grumbled Wolfy. Nick sprinted to Judy. He got in just in time to close the door against the charging swines. They all pushed against the door as the swines started ramming against it. "No recording," said Nick, dejected. "What do we do now?" "I don't know," answered Judy. "Improvise I guess." She looked around. They seemed to be in a control room.

[@justanothercomment]

​@@dragonfan8647👏👏👏👏👏👏 that was dope

[@dragonfan8647]

@@justanothercomment Thanks, glad you enjoyed it 😁

[@OrangeC7]

@@dragonfan8647 I love it when someone just randomly drops S-tier writing under a youtube comment. Awesome work! 👏🏻👏🏻

[@dragonfan8647]

​@@OrangeC7Thank you :D

[@AntiFaGoat]

From what I've seen, Swinton's plot was to drug Gazelle's backup dancers during her performance of the big centennial celebration from the start. Gazelle was a predator rights activist, so having her tiger dancers attack or even kill her onstage would drive the prey in the audience into a frenzy so that the city would be fully segregated again. Nick and Judy got caught in the middle of her plan and Swinton used the situation to harm an innocent bunny officer in the broadcast instead. - Pretty dark stuff, especially when you consider how events like the Vegas shooting went down. Domestic terrorists take advantage of what are supposed to be fun events to do the worst things.

[@sarahlamper5701]

I just love the idea of the take collar. The way it lights up and is always peaking out from their clothing. When it beeps and turns yellow on emotional scenes. It’s just always kind of lingering there, with a light that’s catching your eye just enough to never forget about it- but be really reminded when it turns yellow or red and beeps/shocks. I also like the idea of Nick getting too excited/emotional during the really emotionally charged scenes/climax of the movie and setting the collar off and he’s either a) hurt or b) just fights through it anyways until he gives out. Idk it just adds an extra layer to the movie that works so well

[@therandomgoat2908]

I think the most reilistic approch of adding the original story to a zootopia sequel would be to have it be from a time when the tame collars were enforced in the past, but then they were removed during the time of the original movie, then everythign else in the original plot happens with different characters. I would absolutely love to see this!

[@Dolphanatic]

That wouldn't fit into the timeline. There's no evidence of tame collars having ever existed in Zootopia. The closest thing we see is Stu's fox taser. The collars would need to be something that gets introduced after the events of the original movie in order to make sense, so their implementation would be much different than what was originally planned.

[@ImpossibleGirI]

@@Dolphanatic Maybe it could be set a long time ago with different characters and the movie that we’ve gotten will have affects of the past in the society or something like that.

[@ChicagoMel23]

@@Dolphanaticjust because we don’t see it doesn’t mean it couldn’t have happened. I think it’s a good idea

[@hetzer7575]

Petition to make major animation companies to not be afraid to remake an old movie with the original plot, man...zootopia and the lorax are perfect examples of what i mean.

[@atransarcticfox]

american copyright called- they want you dead

[@ChosenOfHestia]

What was the original plot of the lorax??

[@Wander_Rrr]

signed

[@hetzer7575]

@@ChosenOfHestia the onceler (green guy ) was the main antagonist and was mu more brutal and cold that the one we got. Changing the focus of the movie into a more deep consequences of deforestation and consumerism. Also replacing his badass villain moment song "biggering" with the actual "how bad can I be" it was definitely going to be a movie for at least 13+

[@hetzer7575]

@@ChosenOfHestia this is the original song if you are curious: kzbin.info/www/bejne/maHcpqKigNSYd7ssi=AucqCgPLgTAa0JBO And this is the one in the present movie: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6KQpZmugLWBbNUsi=ZzZrWyYfvUw6rREt You probably knew both or at least how bad can I be. But even though how bad can I be is still a groove and more suitable for a child's movie as it isn't as crude as the other one, having a contrast of these two makes you wish you lived in the parallel universe when they released the movie with the original script

[@franmartosb]

I feel like instead of a sequel they should make it a prequel or a spin off with different characters and change parts of the script so that it is still something new/different ideas such as: The collar is rarely used, but only on animals that have a history of violence, which brings us back to that scene where young Nick is taken by the cops. Maybe we can have a scene with a doctor checking to see he's happy like in the Joker movie. What about omnivores? What role do they have in society? We could see more about bears/pigs/monkeys in this movie. Are there reptiles/birds/amphibians in this universe? I'd love to see a monitor lizard hang out with a salamander or a crow moking someone by immitating their speech. Lastly, if the next movie is a prequel or a spin off, they could use other animals, a Lynx, mink or a vampire bat as the predator and the cop can be a pudu deer, a platypus or a squirrel.

[@unknownentity7964]

Exploring the omnivore aspect would be amazing, especially in keeping with the racism themes. Often, kids born to one POC parent and one white, really struggle to find true acceptance from both sides, especially when they're on the cusp of being 'white passing'. Often those kids are viewed by white people as being too black/'insert POC demographic here' to be 'one of them', and they'll always see that kid as black. Then on the other side, the kid can be viewed as 'too white' by the black community, and they see the kid as being essentially white, or white enough that they will be spared from the racism aimed towards darker skinned POC (even if that isn't necessarily the case). Being unable to be full accepted/part of either community can be absolutely devastating especially for a kid. So for the omnivores, in the minds of the predators the omnivores are basically the same as the herbivores. And to the predators, the omnivores are just a different type of predator. I think they should do zootopia 2 using some of the story aspects as shown in this video. They could set it up so it's in a different city or country, a country that tackled the 'predator problem' by inventing the tame collar. They could be a very isolated country, which explains why it isn't really known about in other places like zooptia. That fixes the issue of why the society and culture is so in zootopia vs the tame collar society. Or maybe it's set in the future, and Judy's grandchild could be the Judy equivalent. Or start off with entirely new characters

[@tiringsarcasm]

This would also add on to the fact that the Swindon was the one orchestrated everything. You know, Swindon the pig. At least I think they’re a pig, it’s really hard to tell.

[@UshankaAdam]

They could use a squirrel and a lynx to give off that "nick and judy vibe" because they are similar animals in terms of strength and size (kind of with the size)

[@Sanches7557]

But the biggest question is: where does the ICE-CREAM come from?!

[@marianokaz1503]

WE NEED MORE ANIMALS!!!! Not just mammals!

[@Shellos_is_the_goat]

From the looks of it, the original Zootopia was going to handle tough subjects like racism and how stupid it is. And that no matter what raze, gender orientation or religion, we’re all human. (Or animals)

[@aaron-gz]

Raze

[@sammy9139]

I mean the Zootopia we have now tried to kinda handle the same subjects but in a more family friendly way

[@nightmare69420]

Tbh! feels like it would've been really impactful

[@vukkulvar9769]

Issue is that racism is about imagined differences. Zootopia species ARE different. That's the issue with portraying racism like this. Transposed to humans, it would be like portraying black people as actually more able to physically harm others than white people. But all humans are equally able to harm others. The correct parrallel in Zootopia would be to collar all animals with grey fur.

[@nablamakabama488]

@@vukkulvar9769 It’s more like a metaphor for sexism, because there’s actual differences between the sexes, with men being able to overpower women in a physical fight. It actually fits very well. Men are being demonised and have to repress their emotions to be accepted by society, because they are more likely to commit violent crime on average. This version of Zootopia is a very good metaphor for modern feminism.

[@cryingsockoyli6331]

3:11 I would have loved if the sheep was an actual wolf, because that would mean that there are predators that are racist towards other predators, towards their own species, maybe he convinced himself that his race is savage and has to be controlled with collars... And also because wolves are badasses

[@bonelessmice6828]

someone else said something about the wolf doing those things to try to appear as a “good guy” so he’d be kind of spared and i think both are great ideas

[@catplayz102]

Well, that's just the thing-prey already don't like foxes, so imagine wolves. Wolves would be treated horribly, worse then polar bears, foxes, etc. So to prove the preys point? That would be...not good for wolves

[@avidagamegerl1081]

@@bonelessmice6828 And then in a reply to that comment someone wrote a massive chunk of really-well-written plot that suggests that the wolf would be *afraid* of taking his own collar off, because he himself is a predator; he needs to be controlled, and if he isn’t he’ll go savage and all hell will break loose (and it’ll be his fault).

[@monbub]

@@avidagamegerl1081 so internalized racism? makes for a good plot, honestly

[@avidagamegerl1081]

@@monbub You should’ve seen the actual reply; it’s honestly amazing

[@vukkulvar9769]

The end would have been more impactful if Juddy shot herself with Night Howler to show that even preys can be as savaged as preds. Or the prey villain accidentally shoot themselves

[@B.L.U.S]

maybe a scene of simultaneous takedown between one of the duo and the mayor where they both point the dart gun at each other then shoot

[@y.9645]

I think the plot twist villain works here because A. We've seen prey treating Predators like jerks already and B. We saw the antagonist being a bit shady when she tried to cover for Judy when Nick broke out. Probably there was more if the storyboards had any

[@BillyBob_1177]

I love the focus on Nick in this movie. It adds a lot more to him than the movie we got.

[@abstractaxolotl6961]

Yeahhh, it's probably not a coincidence that the movie went from being critical of the police and depicting them as forces of oppression, to changing Judy to being the main character and her goal of being a police officer being framed positively. I'm guessing it wasn't the director's idea to change the plot that much.

[@Dolphanatic]

Nice conspiracy theory there. The police were portrayed in a mostly neutral light in both versions of the movie, and Judy Hopps and Nick Wilde were always intended to be officers (as seen in concept art dating all the way back to before they even had names). The rewrite was done to help the story flow more smoothly after the directors realized that the tame collars were ultimately just a distraction from the actual story about prejudice and stereotyping.

[@FleurMarigold]

@@Dolphanatic I wouldn't go so far as to call it a conspiracy. that kind of thing happens, pretty commonly actually. The Lorax was originally a *lot* more opaquely critical of coorperate business practices in a way that fairly obviously made some of the studio executives squirm in their seats too much for their comfort, hence the greatly generalized, simplified and reduced final product. if you listen to the cut version of "Biggering" you'll see exactly what I mean by that. and you'd be surprised at how big of an influence law enforcement agencies can have on the production of animated movies -- a great majority of superhero movies, for example, get funding support from the US military in exchange for being portrayed as a positive force within the narrative. movies that are brave enough to critique these powers often face great challenge securing the funding to even be made, since so much of it is usually just a given from the military. I think Pacific Rim is an example of that, from what I've heard. movies have always been complex - and this does not exclude animated movies, or ones made for kids. it would not have been difficult for an enormous, wealthy and talented studio like Disney to artfully conduct this story the way it originally was - there are much more complicated plots out there than this. as someone who studies and analyzes scriptwriting for animated features, I can't see anything about the collar plot that would've been a "distraction" to the actual story. if anything, the collar is the *centre* of it - the symbolic, narrative force that everything else revolves around. the final product of Zootopia follows similar beats in almost every single area, showing a clear ability for this story to flow conceptually, but in my opinion nothing really 'ties the movie together' as well as the collar plot would've. (final) Zootopia's plot doesn't really stand out to me outside of cool animal crime mystery movie with halfhearted attempt at racism allegory. nothing drives home its point, nothing intricately weaves its message into the narrative. you know. like an emotion driven story is /supposed/ to. but there is a... big, city-wide animal dance party with rainbow colours and pop music at the end so I guess it's fine 🤷‍♂ in fact, the collar delivers one of the most powerful emotional punches this entire story has to offer: the taming party scene. that thing made me tear up within seconds, cripes. nothing in the final Zootopia story had the same affect. and mind you, animated features are based *entirely* on the key principal of emotional affect. as far as the creative team are concerned, their /singular/ goal when creating a movie is to make the audience feel, as strongly and profoundly as possible. that's why movies stick with people. if it doesn't, or it originally would've but the final product fell short, well... it's safe to assume executive management had a hand to play in that. because executive management's golas are a) public relations and b) merchandising profit 🤑 it is also INCREDIBLY rare for a movie to have had THIS much developed concept, THIS much work, and THIS many completed storyboards/animated scenes for them all to have been scrapped so deep into production. it might not seem like it, but that is a LOT of money they just flushed down the drain, which would be alarming and /rarely/ allocated by a studio for something like creative authenticity. when studios change the core plot this late into development, it is very rarely because of 'pacing' or 'flow' concerns, and more often something needing fundamental a major overhaul (like Wall-E for example, but even that was pretty early on in development), OR... as is most tragically often the case... executive meddling. see: The Emperor's New Groove. (though most of the time these days, strict release schedule deadlines force creatives to churn out half-baked underdeveloped stories either way. Frozen 2 is a damn shame.) next point. movies, including animated movies and movies for children, have historically portrayed cops/the police force negatively and this is still fairly common practice, though nowadays they are more of a general, antagonistic force; sometimes even protagonistic, positive, or like you said, neutral. in recent years, the topic is viewed by executives as increasingly political - not because it is only now *becoming* a point of political discussion as part of some hidden agenda (or... "conspiracy theory" 😉), but because the groups of people who have been most violently targeted by the police force for decades are finally accessing and establishing the necessary platforms to vocally discuss their painful communal experiences and traumas, request allyship and demand change. (not that their pleas for mercy and institutional change have been met with much more than scorn, misinformation, misrepresentation, scapegoating or even more intensive violence, though.) however, it's no secret that the inherent discriminatory practices embedded within the police system are currently less able to be criticized in public art. the fact that OP's video literally includes an interview clip from a member of the Zootopia creative team that describes Zootopia as a, quote, "opressive police state," should give you enough indication of the kind of stance the original writing team were aiming for. the additional fact that Judy Hopps' original arc appeared to be a prolonged course of heartbreaking disillusionment with her form of employment, rather than a story of 'self discovery' and 'empowerment' as it appears in the final movie, is enough to show that there were more than simply 'focus' issues when producing Zootopia. if you heard from someone at the team that the change was made for creative reasons or something like that... NDA's exist for a reason. and, y'know. industrial blackmailing. criticizing a studio you work for (or even exposing something they did that they deserve to be criticized for without directly doing so) is a DANGEROUS game, and it wouldn't surprise me if the creative team were less vocal about what exactly happened on account of that. given the facts, though, there was very visibly a clashing political interest between creative team and executive management at some point along the way. and quite frankly, the final product of the movie was such an absolute *trainwreck* of messaging that it's hard to say it really stood for... anything, regarding prejudice or stereotyping. I liked it enough at the time, but after reflecting on it and learning more about the original plot, I'd take the original any day. it's brutal, honest, coy, and actually, well... has something to SAY. it doesn't just placate me with a nice message about 'getting along' and 'being yourself.' it doesn't dress a cute little rabbit up as a cop and try to get me to root for her goals as a police officer in a society where institutionalized police violence exists. instead, it portrays a very gripping emotional reality that is very acutely and intentionally designed to reflect the restricted opportunities for joy and success, and the painful, tragic generational traumas, held by ethnic minorities. and you don't have to like that, but in terms of emotional storytelling, well... it's just objectively better! 😆 no idea what their original plans with Nick and Judy were re: remaining/becoming cops at the end of the original movie, though. anyway. animated movies are my special interest and I'm a scrapped/abandoned project stan ✨✨✨

[@Dolphanatic]

@@FleurMarigold You've crafted an entirely fictional narrative around Zootopia's development with your own speculations, none of which line up with the movie's development. The writers and directors have been very open about how the film was rewritten. There was no sabotage or conflict of interest that interfered with the writing process. It was agreed upon by everyone working on the film that the tame collar subplot wasn't necessary, and it was actually John Lasseter from Pixar who suggested rewriting the story to be told from Judy's perspective and focus more on animal stereotypes to make the conflict more believable. Everything else about Judy and Nick becoming police officers was unchanged and was always going to be in the movie. Otherwise, there wouldn't be concept art of Nick and Judy wielding pistols and wearing police uniforms dating back to 2012 (before the tame collars were even conceptualized). Just because you want to believe there was some conspiracy by outside forces to sabotage the movie and turn it into "an absolute trainwreck of messaging" doesn't mean it's true. Put your "special interest" aside and try looking at things with an unbiased perspective before you craft a false narrative about a movie's development. This isn't like The Lorax, where it's obvious that Illumination prefers to play it safe and avoid controversy at all costs. Disney actually was going release Zootopia in its pre-rewritten state with the tame collars present (and you can even see some leftover hints alluding to that in the early promotional material). It wasn't until the people working on the movie asked for more time to rewrite the script with just over a year left before the film was scheduled to premiere in theaters that Disney decided to postpone the film's release date, which is something we don't see movie studios do very often anymore. Nowadays, Disney is notorious for rushing half-baked films and TV shows out, so in hindsight, Zootopia was a rare exception. It's actually a great underdog story of a film crew risking everything at the eleventh hour to make a movie better despite the fact that they had no pressure to do so simply because they wanted to tell the best story they could, but you'd rather look at it in the most cynical way possible.

[@Kaisona2017]

@@FleurMarigoldAccording to some behind the scenes stuff, the tame collars were removed because the Pixar reviewers found it hard to like a city that was willing to treat a portion of its population with that level of cruelty. Also, it made Judy come off as unlikable for being part of the institution that enforces the collars.

[@Davidledonkayy]

the police are mean lol

[@sabwo2976]

fun fact, when I first found out about the original plot I wanted to reanimate part of it, I decided not to because Disney would sue me so hard, edit: I am thinking that there may be some of this ideas in Zootopia 2, but how?! military coup, something like in the handmaid's tail, there is a coup, (after all Rich Moore said that the tame collar story took place in an oppressive police stat right?) and the new government hates predators and make some unfair rules such as the tame collar, and they use very effective propaganda, even so that Judy believes it, and Nick looses his Job, 5 years later, nick is doing scams again, until he gets into an accident, and this story plays out just that a bit different, because Nick and Judy are nostalgic of when they were partners.

[@stadlerplanck]

You could make your own setting that’s just… “heavily inspired” by zootopia. Or maybe do something like A Fox In Space.

[@gradient5319]

​@@stadlerplanck I don't think that's good, because people might think he's trying to pass it as his own

[@reinweissritter]

Dude, no, just no. That plot as interesting as it was, got scrapped for a reason. And the sequel is already in a risky place with Disney's handling of sequels in general, we don't need them to shove something that the directors and writers themselves said it wasn't working. The world building elements though, wasting them would be downright criminals. I just wanna see Nick and Judy kicking ass as cops, please disney don't fuck up this one.

[@Mike_Elemental]

I thought i saw a part of the taming party reanimated around here. Seems like Disney removed it.

[@reinweissritter]

@@stadlerplanck Some guy tried to make it's own version and called it zistopia. It was balls to the wall edgy and it never got finished, even with help of other writers or artists. Also, as if disney would sue you for this, someone made it's own fan sequel and it never got shit from them, and someone else tried to make it's own fan animated series out of his comic, but never got past the first episode because lack of funding (though he would've probably got some shit in the future because there were straight up sex scenes on one chapter lol). For being one of their popular IPs, zootopia was neglected as hell up until now with zootopia+ and the sequel announcement.

[@Ibit1234]

Why did they get rid of this plot this plot is 300 times better than the original plot. I also love the idea of nick being the main character rather than Judy it just makes everything more interesting I also think that the way they introduce characters in this plot is smoother then the original. I also find this version easier to follow its upsetting that we didn’t get to see a fully finished version of this plot it would have been amazing

[@daveroll6463]

10:47 here's my theory: 1. he pursues his dad's dream and has a callback to the "Suit-topia" idea 2. still owns wilde times but instead of it being illegal its now a big theme park where both predator and prey can have fun together

[@fat-zer1508]

1:03 "There is a little beef on the table" - My first thought: wtf?! are Judy's parents so hardcore in this version so they kill and serve cows to guests?

[@aboxinspace]

Probably vegan stuff or plain old tofu, but MAN wouldnt that be an awesome background plot 😮

[@lemonfizzchannel]

I remember hearing rhat the reason this plot wasn't used because the first screening audience couldn't connect to nicks character but they did connect to Judy's character... hmmm I wonder whyyy 😒

[@velayuthambalamurugan1894]

Srsly I can't believe this amazing plot was scratched off coz Nick wasn't 'relatable' like wtf those audience were prolly ppl who've never experienced racism or any other form of oppression, what nick went through was exactly what happened or happens on a daily basis in many countries, rlly why

[@lemonfizzchannel]

@Velayutham Balamurugan I KNOW RIGHT? the Disney executives are only trying to make the less marginalised audience more comfortable rather than showing the truth of oppressed groups which is mirrored in our society in this scrapped plot. they shifted the focus of the plot to a "white saviour" and thus regurgitated a very common trope

[@shcdemolisher]

@@velayuthambalamurugan1894 Do keep in mind, a lot of americans have never lived abroad in other countries where THEY are the outcast, the odd one, the one who doens't fit in, the obvious forigneer. So that's why they can't relate.

[@barneythepurpledinosaur7002]

This is false, if at least half the movie is still in storyboard, why would they be doing test screenings?

[@catplayz102]

@@barneythepurpledinosaur7002 Storyboards, the little scenes, fo see if people like it

[@mischievousBATS]

honestly i love this plot alot more than the movie we got and i dont understand why they changed it. I keep reading comments like "it was probably too dark" or "too complicated" for kids but it just doesnt seem like it.

[@aikotitilai3820]

Maybe some people in the production were genuinely concerned about making something too dark or complicated, or someone didn't like the idea the subtext and critisism (don't know how to spell it, English isn't my first language) of the state and the police

[@shcdemolisher]

@@aikotitilai3820 I believe you are looking for the words Social Commentary. Like talking about real world issues that do need to be fixed and shown they can be fixed.

[@catplayz102]

Exactly-look at the original. It's really just the plot without collars and as Judy as the main character. And most of the NightHowl scene freaks most kids out-so if they can put THAT, then why not the original?

[@Dolphanatic]

The tame collar subplot wasn't cut because it was "too dark" or anything like that. That's just a myth. The directors themselves have gone on record confirming that it was actually because of how much it got in the way of everything else in the movie. For example, you might've noticed that Judy had very little to do in this version of the story and mostly just existed as a side character with little to no backstory. There just wasn't room for more character development when everything was constantly being overshadowed by the collars. They became the driving force of the story, distracting from everything else.

[@MawdyDev]

@@Dolphanatic ...why is that a bad thing, though? In the released version, they sacrificed Nick's backstory and development to put the focus on Judy--which seems like a genuine loss to me, since Judy didn't face nearly as many hardships as Nick did in the original plot. They replaced "child is a victim of systemic racism" with "kid with big dreams actually achieves said dreams" which... yeah, I know that's more of Disney's usual style, but I feel like they gave up the story that people *needed* to hear in favor of the "safer" story that wouldn't get backlash. It's just another example of entertainment companies refusing to take financial risks, even if the idea itself is really good--they prefer to go with "the usual" instead of doing something original, because no matter how good that original idea is, if there's even a *slight* chance it would rock the boat, they won't take that risk. It's the reason so many old, beloved shows are getting "remakes" and "reboots" and "live action" versions--because these entertainment companies don't care about entertainment anymore, they care about their bottom line. It's really depressing tbh

[@dylan.bissendmylife]

honestly i like this version of the plot a lot more than what we got. partially because nick is my favorite character so a movie with him as the protagonist rather than judy would be absolutely bangin but also just because it feels a lot more real than the official movie. the bit about nick and his dad both having failed countless times to get a loan to make their dream come true hits different when you realize that exact same thing happens to real people all the time. it's probably happened a few thousand times just today, ffs

[@genghisj1372]

While the scene in this scrapped story where Nick takes the collar off and holds it over the edge of the stage is an awesome scene based on all the major events that would have occurred in the original script, I feel that the best part of it is the catharsis felt based on Jack's personal story. Throughout this scrapped script we get to see how the shock collar has constrained and controlled Nick throughout his life, and all the tense scenes because the collar is yellow, or the running gag of the collar shocking him because he got out of it's parameters, or even the mistreatment that came with being a predator in his childhood, all of that piled up on top of itself until that scene. That scene was Nick effectively stating he wouldn't let anybody or anything control his life anymore, and then the scene that would go right after it where Nick would kick butt while controlling himself in spite of the Nighthowlers or whatever it's called, would have been him showing that he can do exactly that, prevent others from controlling him. It feels so awesomely cathartic, not just in a rebellious way, but also on a personal level. I like the modern plot for Zootopia so much, but this scrapped plot had the perfect buildup for this scene, and this scene would have achieved so much even without words that I feel the scrapped plot should get revisited somehow. That scene is just amazing

[@TisI-yw6hf]

Gotta love the Death whistle lol. Very good video man!

[@Kerfluffle.]

Tbh, this scrapped plot fits and builds Judy's and Nick's relationship better. They seem so much closer and fleshed out than in the actual movie

[@MaddnessItself]

7:10 *Really wholesome scene* "Alright so back to overthrowing the government-"

[@veronica3662]

The original would have made me tear up soooo bad. And while the official still made me tear up at some parts I think this would have made me tear up soooo much more. I love the original plot so much.

[@zctwenty]

I was crying at the tame party scene and it was just a storyboard! I'd definitely cry harder if this was the original release.

[@veronica3662]

@@zctwenty same

[@yoshi_chuck05]

2:50 I gotta love this interpretation of what could’ve happen 😂😂😂 I was not expecting that iconic whistle and it almost gave me a shock

[@jamezcunningham8906]

Would love to see the Zootopia Community to join together and put together this whole scrapped plot. Full on animated with voice acting from the best ones:)

[@Chillpill4930]

We were robbed of this bro this story line is so good 😔

[@Yue_yunn]

You're so right, I would have been SCREAMING so hard when the scene where Nick went feral to protect Judy played out omfg I would have been losing my shit

[@reallygoodyoutubeusername1917]

i kinda wish they kept this, it seems like a much better story than the OG, both are really good though

[@andyvaie]

well the final scene with savage nick protecting Judy by instinct would’ve been very emotional to watch in a theater ngl also you missed adding the complete storyboard scene when they go into Judy’s safe house and her dad asks her if nick was her boyfriend lol which is also completed and voiced like the previous storyboards

[@looooo24]

9:54 this is so much more cool and effective at communicating the movie's message i dont think ill ever be able to look at the final product the same way again

[@businessburd2071]

Public execution: I dunno, my first thought was that the new law would be to remove predator's teeth and claws to make them safe and prevent people from going feral without their collars.

[@aikotitilai3820]

I think this would be something that people in this world would agree to, instead as something as extreme than execution. Not that forced mutilation isn't extreme. Maybe they would bring back execution after making forced mutilation a thing.

[@fluffy116]

Damn bro your art is so good yet so simple wtf I love it

[@Dolphanatic]

This series of videos you've made might be the most in-depth exploration of Zootopia's tame collar subplot I've seen, so I commend you for piecing it all together so coherently. As for my thoughts on the scrapped plot itself, I think it had some interesting ideas, but it would've made the conflict way too obvious, hence why a lot of the emotional beats and jokes seen in these deleted scenes don't land like they're supposed to. That's the main reason why the writers and directors at Disney decided to scrap the storyline and rewrite the movie. It wasn't done out of fear of being "too dark for kids" or anything like that. It simply didn't make sense as a coherent story, and it's easy to tell just by piecing these deleted scenes and storyboards together. The taming party scene discussed in the previous video is a perfect example of that. It works as an emotional moment on its own, but it makes no sense when you really sit down and think about it. The idea that no one in Zootopia would've questioned why such a thing would be normalized seems like it would've been a massive plot hole. Plus, while Nick gets plenty of focus, there's not nearly as much character development or backstory for Judy Hopps compared to the final version of the movie, making the dynamic between them feel unbalanced. As much as people might want to see this version of the story, I think the tame collars would work a lot better as something that gets introduced in the sequel, perhaps as the invention of a new villain who could make a pitch for them to be adopted by the rest of Zootopian society, making the conflict more introspective and in keeping with what we ultimately got in the first film.

[@MawdyDev]

My dude really forgot 90% of human history lmfao When the holocaust happened, most Germans didn't question it, and the ones that did were prosecuted. When segregation was legal in the US, most white people didn't question it, and the ones that did were often shunned by their communities. Even now, as trans people globally are being prosecuted by their own governments *just for existing,* most cis people either don't question it or are actually (disgustingly) happy about it. And these are just the easy examples!! There are probably tons more examples of people, intentionally or not, being ignorant of the crimes against humanity going on around them. My history knowledge is rusty since I haven't covered it since high school, but considering how easy it is to find examples giving my limited history knowledge without having to google it, human history as a whole is probably *riddled* with examples of people turning a blind eye to their neighbors being punished for existing. So no. "The idea that no one in Zootopia would've questioned why such a thing would be normalized" is definitely *not* a plot hole. If we compare the animals in Zootopia to humans IRL, it's literally one example among hundreds, maybe even thousands, of this very thing happening, and is (given our track record as a species) entirely believable.

[@spacejunk2186]

The issue with the a sequel is that it would fundamentally retcon Zootopia. Tge animals would need to become super rascist for no reason. I think the plot would not work for a sequel at all.

[@alwayssleepy2476]

Wow I just found these videos randomly in my recommendations, so it’s pretty cool that this just came out just today lol

[@romeo-0016]

"Ok, back to overthrowing the government." This has to be the best transition I've ever heard.

[@meiguess6765]

I really like this original version of it! It seems all that’s really left of this plot in the published version is probably the muzzle scene- seems the most similar to a collar in my opinion but still lacks a lot of symbolism that could’ve been expanded upon

[@Joetino]

Pro Tip: If you want to make this kind of movie, DON’T go to Disney for help.

[@beauvoirferril]

Damn- the Zootopia we got was neutered in comparison to this. _Effing masterful._ I would be ecstatic if they were to ever bring this back in some form. Despite the darker overtones, I believe this would've taught such a valuable lesson in an even more powerful way.

[@Dolphanatic]

The movie wasn't "neutured" by being rewritten. Toy Story went through the same process. Rewrites are just a part of what goes into making movies, and that means a lot of things might end up on the cutting room floor. As interesting as the tame collars might've been in concept, they didn't service the characters or story in a way that felt believable.

[@beauvoirferril]

@@Dolphanatic Not believeable? The *storyboard* made me almost cry at a couple points. I'm pretty sure fans of all of Disney's past movies that had dark themes would have something to say about that. Or even other commenters on this video series.

[@Dolphanatic]

@@beauvoirferril Just because a scene succeeds at getting an emotional reaction out of you doesn't mean it necessarily works as part of a coherent story. Is it sad to see the polar bear cub get hurt? Sure, but it also raises the question of why no other prey animals ever knew about taming parties and took issue with the collars. The idea that Judy would've been the only one to see that sort of thing requires way too much suspension of disbelief. If we're being realistic, that sort of thing would've quickly become a controversial subject that would be fiercely argued over by everyone in Zootopia.

[@beauvoirferril]

​@@Dolphanatic It does make sense that knowledge of taming parties wouldn't be privy to all preys unless they're exposed to it somehow, which is very believable, _even IF it is exaggerated._ [There are still people in recent society who didn't know/believe that racism/slavery exists. And not to mention, governments love to keep the public in the dark about certain things. Think about the wolf/sheep sabotage part.] Especially since it seems that many preys seem to think they superior and that both sides are relatively more segregated than in the final movie.

[@Dolphanatic]

@@beauvoirferril Even if that was the case, there's still way too much suspension of disbelief required for it to work. Word would most likely spread, meaning it wouldn't be such an unknown secret to prey animals in Zootopia to the point that not even a police officer like Judy would be aware of it. I think the casual stereotyping seen in the final version makes a lot more sense than having almost everyone apparently be completely in the dark about what's going on.

[@kennethmcgregor5953]

The zootopia we got was fine but I would've liked the movie so much more if they kept this plot actually

[@cheesychi8317]

That was so good. I like the current zootopia and the sometimes subtle ways it makes its commentary and I also like this darker version. Kozlov was also great and the scene with Morris where they couldn't be too happy or even sad hit hard

[@rajatmutalikdesai]

The "oh shi-" at 5:07 was amazing 😂

[@rajatmutalikdesai]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@anthonysaylor8120]

To be frank, I think the "pig being the main antagonist" twist makes a lot of sense if you remember Animal Farm.

[@Nutty-x9o]

Man if only this actually made it in theaters, I’d love this movie to death :’)

[@GoninjaSeven]

OKAY. This whole plot is awesome as heck, how come they didnt use this

[@bonelessmice6828]

since it’s a kids movie and they refuse to make actually interesting things

[@TheTheninjagummybear]

I wish there was such a thing as studios making AU movies. I'd love to see this get made exactly as intended.

[@edgylearner9249]

I heard that the reason they didn't go with this plot was because the test audience found it difficult to relate to Nick and found that they were attracted more with Judy. So they had to rewrite the entire story.

[@abadaccident528]

So much passion in the story. I love original ideas cause at the end of the day the writers and filmmakers are artists

[@Quertus]

I can imagine that Zootopia 2 will become a prequel, showing us a 90's themed zootopia where predators were forced to wear collars.

[@lemon1032]

This was so fun to watch, thank you for putting the whole plot together. It was really cool to see how the movie could have went :)

[@myaltaccount4438]

This was a MUCH better plot than what we got!

[@Nothankyou7726]

I can’t help but TALK ABOUT THE OLD MINECRAFT MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND, ABSOLUTE PERFECTION 👏👏👏

[@Lilith_obey-me_fandom-v-]

I’d prefer watching this then the final design, THIS ONE IS JUST SO CUTE, EMOTONAL. and REAL drama I feel like we can agree with, when a dogs aggressive people put shock collars on em.. it’s sad…

[@zoebelle8970]

Yeah, it’s sad how exactly this version mirrors what dogs are put through

[@DanksterPaws]

Thank you for doing this in video form! I have a discord server where every channel was every scene from the old plot and I did my best to piece them together. This was back in 2020 though when zootopia had a weird resurgence.

[@_.-_]

Man the original idea was so much better. Except the ending, which u rightfully pointed out does leave him in a bit of a bind. But overall, they really kneecapped the story to give what it ended up as /:

[@vesperhoney]

Thank you so much for all the effort you made to share the whole story and footage!! And I love your excitement over that scene, it was very cool indeed :D

[@milokojjones]

Oh wow, I didn't know that this was ment to be the original plot of the movie. I think it's a shame they didn't go with it, I feel like it would have been even better than the original movie. Anyways, great videos, I'll be checking on this channel in the future to see new ones you release.

[@mr.kindasus7014]

Zootopia 2 should be just this, but like in the past you have Judy and Nick like the grandparents or whatever the heck that would be cool

[@mr.kindasus7014]

As in they would be the grandparents of their own species they don't get married

[@candyapplehumanm974]

john wild suit store little story got me tearing up

[@johnreich1878]

You know I feel that this COULD work in zootopia 2, My theory is that the Zootopia police makes a team up with some heavily segregated town to help then DEsegregate but instead nick gets thrown in jail and collared, and THIS plot plays as follows

[@catplayz102]

Except Judy would help him this ti.e

[@PinoccThePiccolo]

Ooo that is a really cool way of implementing that idea!!

[@crimsonitacilunarnebula]

Or just a whale new eo e world identical but e reskin loke vzike snyder

[@veryGooseMan]

they should make another one that has nothing to do with the first one just to use this plot. change my mind

[@bluejjboy]

"... All right, back to overthrowing the government" @7:19 wildest dramatic pause to date 🤣

[@mayadonalds4070]

I'm so mad - I love Zootopia but this plot would have been so much more impactful and memorable than the one we ended up getting. They better deliver with the sequel

[@slug9712]

If Pixar made this movie they would’ve kept the original plot

[@sharmarlafoster475]

Agreed, DreamWorks would’ve as well

[@CreestofOfficial]

Bruh at this point im honestly disappointed this version didn't come out, seeing it finished and published would be so f- awesome

[@dawnfinder2104]

This plot is so much more intense I would absolutely LOVE this as a movie

[@averagecoasterenjoyer]

Zootopia is good but this would've been on another level Also, that whistle got me at 2:59

[@deadleaf_and_august]

5:30 shows a split second scene of a completely different movie known as “All quiet on the western front”, a ww1 movie showing what it was supposedly like for the horrible conditions of the German soldiers on the other side of the war.

[@Buzzzy-bee]

That movie was bonkers

[@QueenPenguin104]

Anyone watching this now and think that Elemental is the half reused ideas of this plot???

[@samanthasouza8213]

They had everything in hand to do an amazing prequel to the final film if they decide to use these original ideas. I think if the world building they made on the released movie fits perfectly with the way the animal society would react after the more segregated period of their history from the original idea. Like, they made a great step to equality when they get rid of the tame collars, but the ideas they represented are still there, just camouflaged. I think Disney should make this story a prequel to Zootopia, maybe happening years or decades before what we have seen on the movie, to show the progress the society made and what they can still improve.

[@blazekeaveny645]

It could be in in the nineteen forties and could be about Nicks grandfathers or something. Sorry if my writing is bad, I'm on a small tablet

[@Dolphanatic]

How would that work? If tame collars existed in Zootopia all along and were such an important part of its history, there's no way it wouldn't have been brought up in the movie. The best approach would be to introduce them as something new in a sequel, although that would mean giving them a new backstory.

[@MawdyDev]

@@Dolphanatic actually we could tie this to current politics (primarily Florida banning AP AfAm History) by making a sequel (probably after the prequel, since if the sequel came first, it would spoil the end of the prequel and everybody would already know what was going to happen) in which a historian or journalist (or both? Maybe they team up?) are trying to prevent collars from being re-introduced by finding proof that it was already done and was a mistake--*because* that history was intentionally left out of history books by the Zootopia government. So like... they'd have to find banned books and ancient newspaper archives, interview elderly preds who were there when it happened, all while dodging violent attempts by their government to silence them (i.e. the Zootopia government may try to burn the libraries they were going to visit [or possibly burn it down while they're inside] or mark them as wanted criminals, etc.) and the sequel would end with the truth not only "getting out" but also (eventually) becoming common knowledge.

[@acurioustraveller8194]

I wish Disney would stop playing it safe with their films. This would've 110% had me in tears.

[@woofcartoons]

3:00 lmao I just watched the movie! XD I just wanted to make a quick edit about this becoming a movie. It could be like a history lesson in a school or could be a documentary about the past on Zootopia and it talks about the first predator and prey interaction. It's really late at night where I'm from if it doesn't make sense I'm sorry but I hope you get the idea 😅😅

[@djburk7930]

Only discovered this today and I LOVED learning about all of this - alongside the storyboards and some old script segments. Thanks so much for sharing it all! As well as your own excitement for it

[@pinkerhero]

I LOVE how you presented the climax, and the whole thing! very compelling narrative, thank you for sharing it with us!

[@eeveeextreme]

Thanks so much for this! I've always been interested in the original Wild Times, but this is probably the most thorough compilation of the scrapped content

[@estebang4538]

I really hope this plot comes out as a prequel or something to the plot we got cause this in my opinion was better than the plot we got.

[@Hortifox_the_gardener]

Diznee goes and opens a daughter studio - Darkney where they run all the depressing, violent, scary and generally not happy go lucky projects. Dyszootopia is one of the launch movies. One is allowed to dream...

[@inkyparadox9764]

I love the original plot sooo much more than the one we got. It was good yes, but this is awesome.

[@Donderu]

This could work great as a prequel. Just change a few things so that it happens in the past and change the main characters

[@aleaf01]

God this is so much better than the incredibly mid film we actually got

[@danmiy12]

I could see this working if some sort of disaster happens forcing all predators to wear collars, and judy due to really liking nick a lot (from the first movie) from the start is working to get them off sooner then working against them. And the ending can play out the same as what is posted here.

[@Fiwjrtucidofncnttjf]

1:59 this acene here had so many fanarts and comics and dubs of those comics, this was the thing of nick feeling thankfull to her in the middle of the night after a nightmare

[@User-ghcwvouvmgs]

7:25 that's a sus looking bunker 🤨

[@prayagsuthar9856]

This original plot has SO MANY AMAZING IDEAS!!!!! Though I do notice some kinks, like with the organization of all the events. But even so, it's still AMAZING, thank goodness someone put _all these details_ online to share this greatness with us!!! 😱😱😱😱😱

[@kunimis_sugar]

Bro I need this movie, it's much more complicated but it really lifts ya from a dark place

[@Zenith07]

I saw alot of the concepts of this whole scrapped story, but seeing it all in full and in a consistent way really brings out the Potential of it. I swear this sounds alot more better than what we got, and it also tackles each character alot more better, and it also tackles a huge part of real world problems like what we got but in a different way making you care and sympathize more with the characters. Whats sad is this could never be possible now, since we already have the established world and characters in Zootopia, unless they try and doing a story “from the past” tho it would be quite hard to fit in and has to be with different characters. The story what we got from Zootopia would’ve fit more to be a Sequel to this, tho this time Nick and judy are already in it together to solve what seems to be another incident about the “Night Howlers” something what they’re familiar with because of what they’ve faced in this scrapped Movie.

[@jam_jamster]

Thank you so much for making these videos♡ I've only seen a couple of these scenes over time but never looked into it. I did not expect an entire movie to be hidden behind them. Thank you for collecting everything together, this was super interesting!

[@mikelmurphy4025]

why is this lowkey better than the plot of Zootopia that was actually made.

[@DeltaWing64]

This entire story is FIRE! It would have been AMAZING! Thank you for showing me this.