GT KNOT vs. FG KNOT: The TRUTH About The Strongest Fishing Knot

[@Saltstrong]

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[@ianwagner4186]

The best gt knot is not using the uni after going thru the figure 8 put braid thru figure 8 and don't tighten it yet wrap braid up line 7 wraps then wrap back down to figure 8 7 wraps then back thru figure 8 now tighten figure 8 now tighten braid finish with a couple half hitches to

[@Saltstrong]

@@ianwagner4186 That's essentially an Alberto knot... it's a solid knot, but the FG will still be a solid 20% to 30% stronger.

[@ianwagner4186]

@@Saltstrong no its like a pr knot it works bye gripping the mono like the fg but you have a mono bumper so it can't slide off Alberto is on a doubled mono but the wrapping up and down is the same the big difference with my knot is going back thru the figure 8 so you can put half hitches or a risotto finish to smooth out the knot so it doesn't catch on guides

[@ianwagner4186]

With light braid you may have to do more than 7 wraps up and down I'm using 40 lb braid

[@Saltstrong]

@@ianwagner4186 Have you tried testing it against the FG knot? A simple yet effective test is to tie them both to the same strand of braid (leader lines tied to both sides of a short length of braid), and then attach one side to a fixed object while pulling on the other until the weaker one breaks.

[@johnnybarbar7435]

Line size makes a huge difference in how knots perform when tied exactly as demonstrated. The IGFA GT demo showing 100% hold at 65 lbs force was using heavy line. I would never expect 10 lb line to perform using the heavy line knot exactly as shown in other videos.

[@nortexdjl]

I'm not sure what "video" y'all watched for your GT knot but the one I tie is from the Florida Sport Fishing article that tested 53 knots and found the GT knot to have 100% strength for heavier line. I tie the GT knot substituting a spider hitch for the Bimini twist for 8lb to 15lb braid to 8lb to 30lb leaders and it has been an absolute beast of a knot. Whatever it is you have there I'd venture to say is not a GT knot.

[@pakde8002]

I think that's the premise of the video. If you're an avid KZbin fishing channel fan you have or soon will see some tutorials featuring the exact knot tested here. If you listen closely you'll hear Luke mention that the real GT knot uses a loop trace as you mentioned. The videos in question show the leader being tied to a single strand of braid with the leader being tied in a figure of eight loop with the single braid running through the two loops of the figure of eight then basically a uni knot (as I recall). Obviously a loop trace is going to provide twice the breaking strength and some stretch to the braid but it's a bigger profile and more subject to wind knots.

[@Saltstrong]

If you do a KZbin search for GT knot, you'll see a ton of videos that shows knots that are different than the GT Knot illustration from the IGFA results page which has the leader wrapping around doubled line from the Bimini twist after the doubled line gets threaded through the figure 8 knot in the leader. I tested out the proper GT Knot as well, and it slipped out before it broke. My guess is that it was due to me using just 10 lb braid and 30 lb leader. What lines are you using? Have you put it up against the FG knot yet?

[@snookman9920]

Derrick L. Totally agree. IGFA agrees with your practical assessment.

[@Saltstrong]

@@snookman9920 The big IFGA knot contest had two categories... 1 for light line (15 lb braid to 30 lb leader) and another for heavy line (50 lb braid to 80 lb leader) because knots often differ for lines with much bigger diameters. And in that test, the GT Knot won the heavy line category, but it didn't make it in the top 26 for the lighter lines.

[@Skolmann]

Have you tested the FG Knot against the Crazy Alberto knot ?

[@petr8068]

...perfect!... and another plus, FG Knot goes throught rod guides very smoothly.

[@petr8068]

sorry...through. :-)

[@domainmojo2162]

That's the number one reason why I started using the FG. After I had one of my guides damaged by one of the other knots, I was extremely bothered by it. You know that "itch" at the back of your mind that just does not want to let up- "What am I going to do with the guide-problem?" From then on, I HAD TO sit and learn how to tie the FG. It was the learning part that put me off at first, cause I just wanted to fish... but it's been well-worth it. I tie only 2 knots- the FG for the majority of fishing, and sometimes the Albright(mono to mono/mono to flouro- and that's mostly at wider diameters/+50lb line). The two best line-knots in fishing.

[@krga94c]

I'd have much more confidence in your test results if you showed how you tied the GT knot in your test. Because in my same tests the GT came out on top every time. I also did a direct pull of the GT and FG in line opposing each other. Out of 8 times, the FG gave way first 5 different times at the knot. The other 3 times the line broke between the two knots. The GT has never failed me on the water. So I'm still placing my bet on the GT knot. Although overall, they're both very good knots.

[@mike3611]

It's simple that the thinner the braid, the more turns you have to turn to make the knot stronger.

[@kentait2990]

Is it possible the line size(strength) makes a difference of which Knot is better. The IGFA testing was using 80# /50# line, where the GT Knot came out stronger.

[@watchman316ly]

When it comes to 10 lb. and smaller braid lines- I use the the Alberto knot. I make a loop on the fluorocarbon or mono and then take the braid through the opening eye- 10 times one direction and then come back over it criss crossing over it and back through; wet it and cinching the know tight. I don't know what it is but when it comes to small lines- the FG knot does not do well.

[@deborahotis4015]

I have trouble with keeping a consistent g knot so I went to albright. Its kbocked the insert out of my ark invoker pro with its semi micro guides. Straight fluorocarbon? Or braid if I can get by.

[@vincenttrapani6331]

I used the GT knot on four bluefin and yellowfin trips tied all the rods on the boat all times 65 lb braid to 40 lb fluorocarbon catching 50 to 70lb class fish never had a knot failure

[@WereAllThatBored]

Same here. Set your drag properly and the max breaking point isnt even a thing.

[@gooddoggo2258]

We're all That Bored I set my drag to 20% of the breaking strength of the line. It sounds like it’s way to low but I brought a 20lb fish in using 6lb fluorocarbon and I never felt like I couldn’t move him when he wasn’t making a run. Something that big is going to take line regardless of if your drag is set to 20% or 80% when it makes a run, it just shouldn’t break the line during a fight when set to 20%

[@WereAllThatBored]

@@gooddoggo2258 Agreed. In addition to not setting it above 20%, which on my Slammer 3 is a lot, I also use 9 wraps of braid vs the tutorials I on most GT tutorials. The braid never pulls on the GT's that I tie.

[@uhNomad]

I caught a 36 inch red fish with a GT knot and had no problem also a 37 inch snook on a GT Knot and a loop knot on the hook no problem DRAG IS KING 👑

[@alejandrogarcia9612]

Can you test the tensile strength of different 30 pound braids please ? I want to know which braid I should use for surf fishing on my shimano ultegra I don't need abrasion resistance for surf fishing just strength and casting distance

[@Draven-tc3mn]

Use powerpro or diawa j braid I have 30lb powerpro on my bowfin rod great line

[@hectorcoria3650]

I am NOT surprised with the FG Knot, this is the second solid and sound testing that proves it is the BEST knot for braid to leader! Once you have mastered it, this will most definitely help to optimize your catches. Good job on this demonstration.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks Hector!

[@tonylou1234]

Would be nice if you could measure the thickness on the knots with a micrometer so we know not only the strongest knot but also the thinnest to see which one goes through the guides easiest, especially as some rod makers are using micro guides (not a fan).

[@williammarshall4277]

FG knot flows through guides….gt knot clunks through guides

[@davidoakley3256]

How about reversing your test to a 10# leader and a 30# braid to see the effect on the lighter leader.

[@pablorivera5345]

GT knot with 8 wraps has worked for me. I'm on west coast fishing tuna, yellowtail . I have been using it 4 months and have not had breaks like the video. I like it's so easy to tie.

[@Saltstrong]

If you're looking for a knot that's easy to tie, I'd go with the Surgeon's knot or the Double Uni because both of them are just as easy to tie while having stronger breaking points.

[@akz2037]

Nope... For PE to braid, GT knot is the best solution on the ship...

[@sarimner]

Have you guys tried the SC knot VS FG Knot get? 🤔🤔

[@aidan_r8712]

The knot I tie I don’t know if it has a name but I take the mono go under the braid bring it up and tie a clinch knot then I take the braid and tie a clinch knot and sench it down as hard as I can I would love if y’all could test it for me and does anyone know if it has a name?

[@Saltstrong]

Seems as if you're referring to the Blood knot. Is this it: www.saltstrong.com/articles/blood-knot/?

[@andersbylund3121]

If you have a Stronger braided line like 60 pounds and a 60 Pound fluorocarbon leader. Will the knot still only hold 18 pounds?

[@Saltstrong]

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[@peterczako6661]

Can you compare fg and gt against the alberto knot? I think there is barely any difference between these 3. They hold very strong.

[@pakde8002]

Thanks Luke. I'm pretty sure I know the video you're talking about. There's a lot of hype about the GT knot testing higher than the FG knot but obviously it's not the one being taught on the tutorials currently circulating. I didn't even try to test it because as you said it's obviously a weaker knot. In my own tests of head to head knots, any knot connecting braid to mono / fluoro that uses a bight (starts with the braid being looped or that causes friction even when lubricated will cause the braid to break in the knot or within a half an inch from the knot, hardly ever in the body of the braid line from knot to anchor point, whereas my FG knot tests result in the braid breaking in the middle of the line or at the anchor knot (usually a surgeon loop knot for braid and pulled with a heat wrap covered dowel). I haven't tested with longer lengths of braid but now I'm thinking it would be a good idea to try a couple yards of braid between the knot and anchor point to more closely mimick real life conditions. Thanks again for your practical demonstrations. You convinced me to try the FG knot btw and I was really stubborn but now after hundreds of tests I finally had to admit it's superior if tied correctly.

[@Saltstrong]

Haha! Yes, I remember my first test of the FG knot when I was 100% convinced that my most trusted knot for many years was going to get an easy win... and the shock when my most trusted knot lost against the very first FG knot that I ever tied. That was the day I made the switch:)

[@eftichiosarchontakis3249]

Someone to tell me. Braided 0.3 pe, leader 0.165 mm, which knot fits such high sections! Thanks

[@Saltstrong]

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[@alejandrogarcia9612]

Is the modified Albright knot a good knot for line to line I saw it on knot wars ?

[@bobbybass1944]

It's a excellent knot not as good as fg but its a great knot ..I use it when I don't feel like tying a fg knot .

[@junpingli2689]

you use 10lb powerpro braid tie to 30 lb mono, fg knot breaks at above 16 lb( you said 10 lb powerpro should get at least 16lb,why is it 10 lb line ?), the break point is above 10 lb braidline? Confusing. What exactly type of powerpro braidline did you use in the test?

[@davidcox9674]

Any advice on tying the fg knot with light lines. I just don't seem to be able to to get it to work with a 4lb fluro leader. Turns just bunch up on top of each other. Used the gt knot instead and never had a problem.

[@Saltstrong]

What size lines are you using?

[@davidcox9674]

@@Saltstrong 6lb fins braid or better quality 10lb which has the same diameter with 4lb ocea fluro.

[@Saltstrong]

@@davidcox9674 Ah, the FG knot is best for connecting a weaker (and much thinner) braid to a stronger leader. For those lines, I'd recommend the trusty double uni knot.

[@alexfranchuk9608]

I have the same problem with leaders below 8lb. They just bunch up and I cannot control it.

[@davidcox9674]

@@alexfranchuk9608I solved the problem by getting better quality braid. Momoi lure soul is much thinner than a lot of others 10lb Momoi is like 6lb Finns braid and way better. Also, if you're casting lures it never gets wind knots.

[@adventureswithfrodo2721]

I used the bastard GT know and it always breaks on the mono/flouro side. If it breaks on the braid side it is the braid that breaks not the knot. what am I doing wrong, LOL. The other day I had 10 lb braid and 12 lb floro and the floro broke at the knot.

[@ledforthehead23]

I have been tying the gt knot on all my braid to mono. I have yet to have a break (knock). My question is why can't you make the same wraps on the gt as you did the fg? I do like the profile of the fg vs gt. Thznks for the great videos

[@Saltstrong]

When doing wraps like the FG, you don't need a figure 8 stopper because the coils hold themselves into place so the coils won't slide down to the stopper section.

[@Hargy90]

That doesnt sound like an answer to his question? It sounds to me like hes asking why cant you do more wraps on the uni end of you gt. You even said you only done 6, because that's what "the most popular" does. Popularity of the video shouldn't come into it.. A true test would have the best possible version of each knot. Looks more like view hunting tbf.

[@Saltstrong]

@@Hargy90 I tested the exact knot from a popular video that claimed was a 100% knot per an IGFA test. Over 500,000 people saw it and now falsely believe they are using a 100% knot, so hopefully this video helps some of them not loose a fish of a lifetime due to knot failure. I'm sure that adding more wraps to the uni side would increase its strength, but I'm also confident that just switching to the double uni knot would increase even more strength because having the uni coils on the leader side is better than the figure 8 stopper.

[@Hargy90]

Your missing ths point. You are stating this version of the gt knot is week. You yourself say that "the most popular versions of the gt are not the strongest" and on your test the 1st two fails of the gt were (as you yourself stated) due to a lack or wraps on the uni/braid side. Your video isnt a true comparison between knots. It's your version of the fg vs a poor version of the gt. What is the video you are refuring to anyhow?

[@Saltstrong]

@@Hargy90 This is the main one that people have sent in to get tested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/inK2q4eincuiq7s. But there are others with a ton of views that show this same knot while saying it's a 100% knot. So this video was made for showing those who keep sending these videos in to see that the 100% claim is not true for the knot that they recently switched to after watching the videos that incorrectly claim their knots are 100%. BTW - I do not believe that the FG knot is a 100% knot... it's just the strongest one that I've found that is easy to tie.

[@bentonfishing9696]

hey mate great video, I did my video along time ago before I new anything about the testing going on with the knots and just want to state I never claimed it to be the strongest knot you are talking about. Back then it was a option I was shown because I struggled to tie a FG knot And was told its a single leader GT knot. When I use light gear I double the loops in the uni knot side upto about 10 12 I think its more about spreading the pressure with light gear as you always use more twists. I do agree the FG is a better knot but some people struggle to tie it at times, to tell you the truth I flick lures more then anything and have not found a knot that cast as smooth as the FG..

[@fishingwithharrie]

I also tried the GT after some video on KZbin i saw saying its proven to be stronger than the FG knot. In my opinion the FG is and will be for very long time be the strongest. I always do a little tug on the line after i made the knot to test it. That simulates a hard hook set with a slightly slack line. The GT broke every time.

[@mrkanangra]

Harrie - I am an Aussie both Salt and Freshie...I have made it my mission for the last year to search and test all the "best" Mono to Braid knots.....Both at home and in actual fishing situations. I have honestly forund either the Alberto or the FG to be the best. I own and use a " FG WHIZZ" knot tying tool - and it allows me to tie superb FG knots extremely easily and fast - even in the boat on rocky waves etc. I also do ( here in Sydney, Australia) - a lot of Blackfish fishing ( luderick).....which is a fish that requires a massive amount of knowledge how to catch, and the rig to use is very specific. One of the most important aspects is using a 8 or 10 hook as they have very small mouth, and most Luderick fishermen will ( if they are "true" blackfisherman ) - tie a Snell knot.... I have found the Snell if tied true, and also using the FG for Braid to Mono - I find I rarely have bust offs - and for Blackfish ( any Aussie will know this) - we need to normally use ( for Estuary/in harbour etc) I.E calm water - use 6lb line........ If fishing for them on the rocks off the beaches etc then heavier line will be used. This means that the importance of having an EXCELLENT knot from leader to braid, plus also hook, and then also float etc is SUPER important. For Pelagics like GT, Permit, KIngs etc - me using say 80lb braid and 60lb fluro - the FG is the best by far.....

[@Redneckrino]

I’m still getting better on the fg it’s a great knot but must be done right. Thanks man great information.

[@leomurillo9108]

Hi Salt Strong! I wanted to use a barrel swivel to connect my main braided line to my mono leader using a uni-knot tied to both ends of the barrel swivel, for a charter next weekend. I am going to be using a 10oz weight or up to target rock fish. Would that be sufficient enough or do you think an FG knot would be superior?

[@jamesh7469]

The FG knot holds a stronger breaking % of the weakest line than any terminal knot I know. Whatever knot you tie to the swivel is probably gonna break before the FG, and with an FG you can reel the leader through the guides to cast better

[@raygutierrez4413]

Could you tie the gt knot with the proper amount of wraps based on braid diameter and see if it holds up against the fg? It’s obvious that if the knot is not tied properly it will fail under less stress than if tied properly.

[@Saltstrong]

What is the proper amount of wraps for the GT knot? The issue is that there are too many versions of the knot that it's tough to know which one (if any) to trust. For example, the one that won the IGFA requires that a bimini twist is tied to double the braid, but I haven't seen any of the "GT Knot" videos use the bimini twist.

[@hookedup1]

Hi Luke, thank you so much for sharing this line/knot test. I’ve been using the GT knot for about 6 months now based on recommendations and the fact it’s easy to tie, but I now realize based on your testing that I’ve lost many big fish due to this knot including a nice tarpon over the weekend I might add where by my line snapped right above the leader as you’ve shown in your test results with exactly the same mode of failure. This has been very enlightening, so now I’ve got to strip my rods, and learn how to tie this FG knot. Thanks again, and regards Paul.

[@Saltstrong]

Sorry to hear about the lost fish. Here's a link to the easiest way that I've found so far for tying the FG knot: www.saltstrong.com/articles/fg-knot/

[@hookedup1]

Salt Strong - thanks guys.....I am on it.

[@Waflexxx]

Salt Strong: you made a big mistake in this comparison. The chart that showed the GT Knot on top had the braid line doubled with a bimini twist if I recall. The FG knot might still come on top in this scenario, but it sure will be a closer match. It would be interesting to do that test.

[@Saltstrong]

I tested against the GT knot shown in this popular video (kzbin.info/www/bejne/inK2q4eincuiq7s&t) because it was sent to me by many people given that it has had over 500,000 views. I also tried the GT knot from the illustration shown in the IGFA test, and it slid right out even though I followed the directions exactly as it was shown... even tried it twice, so I'm assuming that the Bimini/GT knot is only for stronger lines since that's the only division that it won in the IFGA contest (I was using a 10 lb braid and 30 lb leader).

[@scottjolly8983]

Can u do SC vs. FG please. Very interested in that. Thanks for the work!

[@JoeSimondsSaltStrong]

The FG Knot Strikes Again!!! Definitely my go-to knot for braid to leader

[@timothybinkley3853]

Never heard of either . NOW I do tie the double umi alot but have no clue as to the structure of an FG knot.

[@Saltstrong]

The double uni is a very good knot so I will not say that you need to switch. But the FG knot proved to be roughly 30% stronger while also being thinner so it'll help you get some added power while having a slimmer profile. Here's a link to see how it's tied in case interested: www.saltstrong.com/articles/fg-knot/

[@giorgiomandelli6161]

Interesting. Have you tried the FG node against the Tony pena knot?

[@KurtKaleido]

Man the way u showed me how to do an FG on that one video changed my life I can tie it anywhere now in minutes so fuckin badass I feel like the man when Im tyin a quick FG down on the bank in the wind like it was nothing

[@Saltstrong]

Thank you for checking it out and glad it was helpful!

[@SaltLife4Us]

Up in the Chesapeake region, I’ve been using a knot I learned 15 -20 years ago from the old Tidal Fish forum to connect my 20lb flouro to 10lb pp. Back then, they called it the 10 x 10 knot. Looking on google, I don’t see anything results on that knot so maybe it’s goes under a different name? I’d like to see that knot tested. Can I send you a video of me tying it? It basically an overhand knot tied 3/4 in from the end of the flouro leader. Pass the tag end braid through that knot, then do 10 wraps up the flouro and 10 wraps down then pass the braid tag back through the overhand knot. Snug the overhand knot tight then wet it and snug down the braid. It can be tied quickly in about 15 seconds by holding the flouro tag on your mouth and spinning iit 10 up 10 down. No idea how strong it is but it’s what I use and has worked for me. It slips through guides easily. Be cool to see.

[@Saltstrong]

The knot you're referencing sounds very similar to the Crazy Alberto knot, but it uses an overhand loop knot to act as the stopper while the alberto knot used a doubled over line. Here's a test I did on the Alberto knot vs. the FG in case interested: www.saltstrong.com/articles/albright-vs-alberto-vs-fg-knot/

[@SaltLife4Us]

I found this video for the 10x10 knot. It’s similar to the way I tie it but I pass my braid tag end through the overhand knot to finish it instead of passing the braid tag through the first loop. I would like to see this one tested to see how many lbs it takes. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bojVfpyXob6Um8k

[@garybrady4922]

Anytime I get a snag or hung up on a mangrove, my FG knotted leader always breaks at the loop knot to the lure. I use 15# braid and 20# mono leader generally.

[@Saltstrong]

Yes, the same thing will happen with 10 lb PowerPro connected to a 20 lb leader... sure is an impressive knot.

[@mitchgarcia4591]

Thanks, I knew this was the best knot for floro to braid. This is the only knot I use ,

[@klywrx]

That dog is adorable ❤️

[@Bigfish1day]

Can you do a test between FG and SC knots?

[@judasblewit]

I tried the fg and my fluorocarbon slid right out. What did I do wrong?

[@RT42069]

You gotta have tension on the braid when tying it. And if the leader is less than 30#, you should probably use a different knot.

[@BuhdFrankDaTank93]

So many tests can be done with that tensile strength tester , glad my favorite fishing channel has one ! Test how strong a loop knot compares to a snug knot !

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the kind words. The answer to your Loop knot and snug knot question all depends on the lines and knots used... I'll be sure to add this to the list of things to test out.

[@DanTheFireman]

@@Saltstrong That's a great tool. My crude setup consists of cloth wrapped dumbbells and pipes etc. I'm very skeptical about claims, including manufacturers. After going to great lengths to hit places like the Amazon, Australia etc. and casting all day it's not nice to have your line, swivel or split ring fail well below the listed strength. "50 pound" split rings straightening out on a 30 pound dumbbell ... WTH? My most recent must try was the hyped Gosen "Highest Grade 16 Braided PE Line". 75 bucks US for a 150M spool, the "23 lb" breaks at 9 to 11 lbs and the "41lb" at 22-23lbs, even using several wraps to bypass strength loss from knots. Other than that it is as nice as claimed but having to upsize 2x isn't cool. I do have some for you if you'd like to give it a go on your machine. Also, been using the FG knot since it first hit KZbin and no reason to switch as my leader always fails before the knot.

[@chrismarto9852]

I love the FG knot, especially with a Rizzuto finish. Have you tested the Yucatán?

[@NhanPhamLife]

can you do a video on the ag chain knot? i recently broke on that knot and was wondering why

[@kencee9213]

Would like to see the PR knot vs FG knot. But is the PR knot for thicker lines

[@Saltstrong]

The PR knot is slightly stronger, but it's such a pain to tie that I have not made the switch over to it.

[@kencee9213]

@@Saltstrong great to know was only a little stronger and which one is a thinner knot a PR or FG. And thanx for all the videos great info. Keep up the great work.

[@darkinertia2]

thank god i just mastered the fg, no way am i learning something new lol

[@isaiahtorres920]

😂

[@Saltstrong]

Haha!

[@prototypep4]

The GT is way easier to tie.

[@Saltstrong]

@@prototypep4 The quick GT knot tested to be 80% weaker than the FG which takes about 30 extra seconds to tie after some practice. If you're looking for speed, then go with the double uni or 6-turn surgeon knot because they both tested stronger than the GT and are quicker/easier to tie.

[@prototypep4]

@@Saltstrong happy with the GT thanks. Do 10 turns, no issues.

[@SuryaCiptaPro]

you should use a bearing / some like line roller, not just iron ring like that, it's reduce the results, broke the line that throught the iron ring,

[@jerrychapman7091]

For me FG goes through the guides better as weĺl,nice to see it also holds stronger ,definitely engineered better.thanks for the test,I was testing while fishing useing both. GT under a heavy load would not bounce past the pole tip.I was salmon fishing with a barbless hook and it almost cost me a fish🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟

[@oceanwaves83]

The FG knot is going to be extremely difficult to beat since it's not even a knot. Simply wraps with a few half hitches (hitches aren't knots) to keep the wraps from being unraveled. I was always taught "No knot's the best knot" and the FG knot exemplifies this.

[@Saltstrong]

💪Thanks for watching the video! We appreciate the support!

[@oceanwaves83]

@@Saltstrong thanks for the copy paste response lol

[@Saltstrong]

y o u a r e m o r e t h a n w e l c o m e We appreciate the support! 😂😂

[@Saltstrong]

@@oceanwaves83 You are correct though. the FG is a real game changer when it comes down to the technicalities of the actual knot itself. It is superior in just about every way. 💪

[@joesylvest254]

Have you ever tested the SC knot ??? I seen it after watching your video it’s like the FG but tied completely different

[@davestone607]

stick with the FG

[@TrackTrucks]

Do you use super glue on the fg?

[@lachlanoneil8938]

The FG knot is practically unbreakable my pe 3 braid with 80lb connection is so strong that the leader breaks before the FG

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for making time to leave the nice comment.

[@Ruto684]

I think only the PR can do better then FG. Did you guys hear about SC knot? Maybe an FG vs SC.

[@Saltstrong]

I actually just came across the SC knot earlier today. Haven't yet tested it out yet so not sure how it'll do. Looks like it'll be strong since it spreads the load evenly across a wide area, but it sure looks like it'll be at risk of slipping since it doesn't have the crossover wraps like the FG does.

[@Ruto684]

On the SC knot you saw was the braid doubled? Looks similar to FG and it comes out cleaner too. But I mainly use PR with bobbin or FG if I have to field tie on windy days hard to make solid PR. Keep up the awesome informative videos.

[@michaelhornung7266]

Any chance you could test the Yucatán knot against what ever knot u like.

[@Saltstrong]

Which version of the yacatan do you tie... with or without a bimini twist?

[@michaelhornung7266]

Salt Strong without

[@AHS2000]

have u try relix knot?

[@porkchop955]

My go to live bait knots are a spider hitch to double my 30 pound braid, then a double uni knot to attach the doubled braid to a 30 pound fluorocarbon leader. Do you have any interest in testing this combination? I've had good luck with it for years but would love to see a more scientific approach to the testing as you do in your videos. Thank you for your consideration.

[@humblehombre9904]

I’d love to see this outcome. I’ve never heard of the spider knot brother. If you have a link that would be swell. Thanks so much.

[@jawjuh1005]

Why the fascination with 100% knot strength? When you fish with 15# test for example do you set your drag at 15#? No. Do you set it at 12# which is 80%? Probably not. You don’t need a a100% knot. You need a strong knot easy to tie and fast in all situations. Is the FG the strongest knot? Okay. If that is the easiest fastest “strong enough” knot for you to tie go for it. I use the crazy Alberto BTW or a 4 turn surgeons. Won’t win knot wars but never lost a fish due to knot failure either. My 2 cents.

[@Saltstrong]

You're absolutely right about the fact that a properly set drag should make sure that no fish ever breaks the line out in open water because the drag setting will make sure the line never hits its breaking tension. Having the strongest possible knot becomes important is for those of us who target big fish near heavy structure because (1) we are oftentimes forced to have to stop a running fish before it gets into the structure, and (2) we have a better chance at forcing out a lure that's snagged on the bottom with a stronger knot.

[@jamesh7469]

If you never have to set your drag near your line strength, then you’re fishing too heavy of line

[@jawjuh1005]

@@jamesh7469 haha. 10# braid 20# leader. Funny.

[@blackedoutgrendel3775]

Please try gt knot with braid doubled to start with

[@jamesmay3747]

How about a real test? Try this with a normal set up- like 30lb braid to 10 or 12 lb mono or fleuro? Who connects 10lb braid to 30lb mono?

[@davestone607]

pretty much everyone who goes fishing uses a leader that is heavier than the braid. not sure why you would want your leader at a lighter poundage than the braid???

[@djbj786]

My man really sat and tied 3 fg knots for us.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks!

[@elicchannel2164]

Thanks for sharing!!..👍👍👍

[@WereAllThatBored]

Awesome testing! Keep in mind though that you set your drag much lower than the pound test that you're using. No way will I use 10 pounds of drag on 10 pound test. In reality the GT would hold up just fine with a properly set drag.

[@Saltstrong]

Yes, the drag should be set at 20% to 30% of the weakest line's breaking stength. When absolute knot strength comes into play is when 1) in need of stopping a big fish from getting into structure and 2) when getting snagged on the bottom and in need of powering out.

[@WereAllThatBored]

@FC I use the GT knot daily. I use 9 wraps and not 4 or 5. Try it for yourself if you feel so strongly. I use it for Mahi, King Fish, Blackfin Tuna, False Albacor on Avet 30's trolling at 8 to 10 knots. Im not wrong.

[@Ozzierob]

What about slim beauty vs FG knot

[@CHIGGER83357]

Tried a gt knot and it faild on a massive fish just before I could see the fish

[@dpcrozg]

I use GT knot and it seems to me best knot for my type of fishing. Try again test but that florocarbon strenght be same or weaker than braid cause that how it work. I use Berkly Trilene Fc. 7kg(14lb) on daiwa 8braid 13 kg(26lb) main for zander but i caugth 19kg(38lb) catfish on it and when u cast it is almost like u dont have knot for cast range.

[@Saltstrong]

Which version of the GT Knot do you use? The one that won the IGFA knot contest required a bimini twist to double over the braid before threading the leader line around and through the loop. And there are others that consist of a uni knot with the braid and a figure 8 stopper on the mono.

[@dpcrozg]

@@Saltstrong Figure 8 knot on florocarbon than braid throw it and than uni knot 4-5 wraps.

[@dpcrozg]

Also when u make figure 8 it is ( shape and i pass from inside. Sry for bad english i hope u understand what i try say.

[@Saltstrong]

@@dpcrozg For those two lines, I highly recommend a different knot because you need something that will protect the fluoro better than the basic figure 8 knot. I recommend going with a double uni knot with 7 turns on each side... it'll likely be over 30% stronger than the GT knot you described.

[@dpcrozg]

@@Saltstrong Ok thx anf tbh i was useing double uni before some fishing m8 told me this is best 1 and both didnt break.

[@TheJuryIsOut]

I'd be very keen to see a comparison between the FG and Bob Sands knots.

[@Saltstrong]

I am aware of the Bob Sands knot which is essentially a uni knot with the leader side paired with an alberto knot on the braid side. I have not yet tested the Bob Sands knot, but I have done a lot of tests with the Uni knot and the Alberto knot so I'm 99% sure that the FG knot will be at least 15% stronger since it beat the double uni knot and the alberto knot by roughly 30%.

[@TheJuryIsOut]

@@Saltstrong kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIazYaaqaapqb5ai Just checking if we're talking about this knot? Thanks for all your efforts in keeping us updated on best practice.

[@humblehombre9904]

Maybe just clamp that device to the table so you can apply a continuous, non stop load. This DOES make a difference. You need constant application of pressure.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for watching!

[@razerray2000]

Can you test at "SC Knot" VS "FG Knot" ?

[@frankiev-tech4630]

I still don't comprehend why people are so defensive on GT knots losing over the FG...it's already been proven several times the FG is superior. Not only that...it's not hard at all to tie it. I would take my time to learn the best knot it takes to not lose a fish of a lifetime...whether it's difficult for yourself. Make the effort to learn and practice. I've fought massive Goliaths and Sharks on a pier fighting them for long minutes using 65lb braid to 100lb mono with the FG knot tied up and never has that knot failed.

[@ianwagner4186]

It's because he tied the wrong gt knot

[@frankiev-tech4630]

@@ianwagner4186 I think I know which GT you're talking about...if you have the link of the correct one I'd like to compare for learning purposes.

[@ianwagner4186]

@@frankiev-tech4630 Roberto ripamonte has the gt knot on KZbin it's the better one

[@ianwagner4186]

Ripamonti

[@frankiev-tech4630]

@@ianwagner4186 thanks my man I'll check it out!

[@shcjohnson]

can u test the yucatan knot

[@Saltstrong]

Which version of the yacatan do you tie... with or without a bimini twist?

[@freshlysaltedfishing8500]

I don't understand why people try and say anything about another knot being a better knot for braid to fluro/mono than the fg knot. The fg knot is a almost perfect knot. Even the profile Is better for any type of fishing.

[@PeterRanieriII]

Thanks for proving what I already thought. Can’t beat the fact that FG knot spreads the load. Can you test the crazy Alberto would like to know if FG is worth tying while out on the water

[@pakde8002]

Check the link to the other tests. Crazy Alberto and some other knots definitely break well over line capacity and there's nothing wrong with using them. Obviously millions of record fish have been caught using those knots, but if you want the best knot for casting with braid to mono / fluoro it's the FG knot. But as you hint at, the best knot is the one you can tie confidently in the field.

[@Saltstrong]

Here's the Alberto vs. FG test: www.saltstrong.com/articles/albright-vs-alberto-vs-fg-knot/

[@PeterRanieriII]

@@pakde8002 thanks for the reply, yea I usually tie FG before going out but on the water the crazy alberto has never failed me. that's true too the FG is nice and slim profile for casting.

[@PeterRanieriII]

@@Saltstrong awesome, thanks for doing this!

[@brandonrice4904]

The fg knot is good for braid to flouro but it slips too bad on braid to mono.

[@bluegill2030]

I need to learn this knot

[@tlr683]

I'm not saying he's wrong, but who uses 10lb braid? 🤔

[@karennorthrop2293]

Me and all my fishing buddies consistently use 10 lb braid, and we ctchmany big smallmouth in the Columbia River.

[@craigfrith7024]

Regardless of any of these tests simple question to all example 10lb to 30 do run your drag at or above the line class ? My answer No so the results are irrelevant. So any knot that comes close to your line class will do the job personally I’ve only used Albright knots for about 30yrs can tie them with my eyes closed never let me down

[@peteroldroyd7531]

not a fair test ! the gt knot was only wrapped with 6 twists and the fg 18 twists make them equal !!!

[@you2tooyou2too]

The knot theory is sound. The handshake principle of axial load dissipation has been well proven elsewhere by thoughtful test professionals on a wide variety of lines. However, the knots should have been positioned between the 'pulley' ring and the meter. This is hardly the truth about any particular knot, although the big difference does imply a trend. An unknown & dynamically varied amount of tension is taken by the ring, so the meter cannot measure the knot strength. Also, that sloppy test rigging makes me wonder if he considered the various ways that knot tying and setting techniques affect knot strength, not to mention the hand rate & tremor of loading during the test is very random. He might have a better credibility if he indicated that he had done a lot of tests and controlled the variables above, on more than 2 common knots.

[@FirinMahLazer1]

Truth be told I hate the FG knot. It's a pain in the ass to tie and it's even harder to get right. But I use it because it's the thinnest knot. If I'm rigging up the night before I'll tie an FG. If I'm on the water I'm tying a double uni.

[@justindeus3899]

I use the gt and never had an issue, using 30lb braid to 40lb flouro

[@Huy0035]

16 twists. Is that 8 pair of twists? Or 16 pair?

[@Saltstrong]

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[@garyroberts7752]

Try the dodd knot. I have had good succes with it and it's not a royal pain to tie.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks!

[@refaiabdeen5943]

Cheers Mate!

[@fishslayerbough8372]

So your saying IGFA are wrong mmh

[@ogi-9346]

I don't trust you. I use gt knot and never failed me, I pull it with all my strength and i cant even brake it, I use 50 lb leader and 40 to 50 lbs braid line because i fish in the cape cod canal

[@Saltstrong]

Use whatever works best for your fishing! We're just showing a comparison.

[@johngrosariu1992]

I also had low breakage with GT knot. However if you use a short leader a very small swivel between the 2 is best option. Beside if you hang the bottom and put some strong load on line, the leader, mono or fluoro needs to be replaced IMMEDIATELY. I had 20 lb fluoro going down to 6 lb after a freeing from a snag. Lost a few lures because GT knot! Crap.

[@joerapacilo8331]

Using 10 lb braid and the braid snapped at 9.8. It looks like the line broke at the knot but that does not mean the knot broke. Perhaps you should test with 30 lb braid then you will know if the it the knot that failed. Also, I have seen the knot tied so poorly. Overall it looks like a poorly reflected result due to improper equipment (10 lb braid and poorly tied knot).

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@keithdubose2150]

In these tests, please report the actual tested line strength.. I suspect this 10 lb test is close to 20 lb breaking strength

[@Saltstrong]

Yes, this was 10 lb braid (PowerPro).

[@carnufiasfishing8444]

Love these video's 👊💪👍🎣😎

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for making time to leave the nice comment.

[@haroldrogers6566]

I’m sorry but my experience shows differently. I learned how to ty the FG knot by learning it from you on KZbin you . I tie 15 or 10 lb braid to 7, 8, 10 and 12 lb fluro all the time. I have had numerous FG fails. Breaking or knot coming undone at the end of the day fishing with the FG. I tie the GT with 9 or 10 turns on the Uni. Six is not enough. Never has one come undone or broke. My testing showed different than yours. I’m gonna keep tying the GT. It’s easy to tie in a 20 lb wind. 😊. Good video though. 👍👍

[@Saltstrong]

The FG is generally best when the need is to protect the braid when connected to a stronger leader. For the lines you're using, you need a knot that does a better job at protecting the leader because that's going to be the weak point. Given that the GT knot just does a figure 8 stopper with the leader, you'll be able to achieve a higher breaking strength if you use a traditional double uni (10 turns with the braid and 5 to 7 turns with the mono). I recommend trying it out with the lines you use by tying them both to the same strand of line and then pulling until the weaker one breaks.

[@snookman9920]

Share the IGFA results. They break the results down by light and heavy class line. SS leads you to believe in prior videos that the FG is the best knot for all situations and it is not. Maybe for catching lizard fishing using their soft plastics but very few guides trust the FG for tarpon, permit etc.

[@Saltstrong]

Our tests so far have only focused on lighter lines so we have not made any claims about the strong lines. That being said, a good knot that spreads the tension load should be good for both light and heavy lines of the same type so I think the FG knot would still be an excellent decision for heavier lines too and it's exactly what I use for tarpon and permit. Here' s a link to the results of the IGFA test results. As you'll see, the only 3 knots that beat the FG knot were the GT Knot, PR knot, and the Improved Bristol... all of which require a bimini twist (GT & Bristol) or a tool with a very time consuming series of wraps (PR) which is why even fewer guides use those knots than the FG knot. Most guides use the double uni knot simply because it's quicker to tie www.sportfishingmag.com/strongest-fishing-knots-braid-to-leader/

[@grayking2704]

That’s flat out inaccurate. I fished with a guide last week and caught a Tarpon, had braid to mono with an FG knot connecting the two. That same guide tied FG’s for his business partners rigs the night prior. Luke clearly explains the differences between the IFGA’s knots and tutorials that pull up on how to tie the GT and why they are inferior. He’s also showing you concrete numbers from said tutorial v the FG and their breaking points.

[@snookman9920]

Exactly my point re. IGFA Test. Why would you test an FG knot against a knot proven to be inferior for light line?

[@Saltstrong]

@@snookman9920 I tested the FG knot against the most popular "GT knot" because many people sent in requests for it and didn't believe me when I said that it would definitely not be stronger than the FG knot. Here's the video that kept getting sent in (looks like over 500,000 people falsely believe they are using "the strongest knot" proven by IGFA when it is anything but that): kzbin.info/www/bejne/inK2q4eincuiq7s

[@grayking2704]

Because it’s said to be the strongest. So for Salt Strong the main target audience is inshore fishermen. Where we tie these same knots so the answer and test results geared towards those of us in the club and potential members answering questions about what is the toughest/strongest knot. If it works then don’t worry about fixing it. But don’t also make outlandish claims that Tarpon guides don’t tie FG knots.

[@RoninjahChef]

Last trip to Mexico, I used the GT knot on 65# braid main line to 30# flouro leader with a #1 J hook. Hooked up a nice 25# yellowtail and a fat azz sealion grabbed onto the fish. The GT knot held strong while the sealion dragged us along. GT didnt break and we retrieved half the fish. I dont understand why you would be using 30# mono/flouro tied to 10# braid? Maybe 30# braided main line tied onto 10# mono leader.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for taking the time to comment! The reason the leader is 30lb and the mainline is 10lb is because you need that shock absorption and extra strength leading right into your hook where the fish will strike. That ensures you'll be able to put pressure on the fish and get it to the boat.

[@bobbarnhill8557]

So the IGFA is wrong I guess! I’ll stick with the governing body over line class ratings. Anyone can make a test to prove or disprove anything.

[@kayakfishingmanado6147]

Try relix knot

[@andyvaldez212]

great video but tbh I think the FG knot sucks too.. honestly, it's extremely finicky and very particular... You're leader line has to be mono, your main; braid. The leader has to be thicker, your main thinner and you have to tie the half hitches correctly or the whole thing slides right off!!! meh... smh

[@Saltstrong]

We are sorry you didn't care for this video. Our goal is to reach anglers of all skill levels. We hope you enjoy the next one!

[@MrScubby65]

Hummmm This seems to be stacked in the favor of the FG knot by the choice made to use 10 lb braid to a 30 lb flouro. I don't think I've ever used a heavier leader than main line but I only am doing fresh water fishing. The diameter of the 30 lb flouro is about 0.50 mm thick while the 10 lb braid is 0.09 mm thick so when you wrap it around the much thicker leader it'll definitely sink in and hold well. On the other hand your demonstration on the GT knot showed the much smaller diameter braided line pulling through the much larger diameter fluoro because the larger diameter can't cinch down tight enough around the braid to prevent it from pulling out. I would like to see a comparison made with a 30 lb braid which is about 0.25 mm thick and a 10 lb fluoro which is about 0.26 mm thick. For me this would be a more realistic setup for using braid with a leader in clearer water. The GT knot is much easier to tie with the lower diameter lines used in fresh water over the FG knot which is a PITA to tie with the light lines I use.