WoW TSM 4 Beginners Guide - Part 3 - Professions - Crafting Operations & Shopping

[@magnuswintersborg4271]

Years later, and people are still going to love you for this.

[@Paultimate7]

Calm, clear and chalk full of information. Setting the new standard for tutorials.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks!

[@chrisclarke1875]

THank you so much!!! For someone playing for over ten years, I never really concerned myself with the AH. But your videos have helped me enormously as I start to explore this aspect of the game. You are awesome.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thankyou for your kind words, welcome to the wonderful world of goldmaking :)

[@viktor821]

You guides are very detailed and informative. Definitely helping me getting into TSM.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks! I'm glad they help!

[@bobdude780]

I swear this is just like watching a Bob Ross video on goldmaking. Love it!

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Haha! Thanks!

[@Nobody-hc1rw]

Real talk: Out of ALL the TSM 4 vids you are litterly the only one that made sense to me. After watching the 2nd vid in your series i was like, OH soo thats how it works. Like&Sub deserved. Keep in mind i was already busy for 4 hours with this stuff before i stumbled on your video.

[@Nobody-hc1rw]

On a side note, i got one question. In my gathering tab my character won't show up and i can't select anything. Is that because i have no items in my crafting list that are profitable at the moment (aka no crafting queue available)

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks! Yes, the gathering tab will only populate if you have something in your crafting queue and there are materials you don't have. Also, if you have multiple characters that can craft the same profession, you need to select the character first in the left section of the gathering tab.

[@Nobody-hc1rw]

Cool, good to know. I figured it was that way, but you never know haha. I got it all setup now. Thanks a bunch! Long boii here i come.

[@flujackson604]

Really appreciate you doing this Samadan. Great videos - looking forward to knowing how to use TSM for the launch!! Good luck brother.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks!

[@Gruggo]

I accidentally downloaded this mod, thinking it was a new alternative to Advanced Tradeskill Window....holy shazbot I was wrong, it's so much more. Great video series, gonna start using this, see how I do, and how things go for me going into BFA. Thanks.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks! Good luck with your gold making!

[@wyattfairweather8364]

Thank you so much for breaking this down in super easy terms and videos that I can easily digest. I've watched a lot of TSM videos but this is the first one that made it all click. Keep upt eh great work!!!

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks! I'm glad they helped.

[@rubenvenema1]

Awesome video samadan, helps out alot! Can't wait till you are live on twitch!

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks!

[@invincible0522]

Would be nice if you shared your string in the notes for your prices.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

These ones are by their nature simplified, so I didn't feel it was necessary.

[@invincible0522]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW Thank you kindly.

[@ibrahimonal90]

I don't know why, but I can't understand this TSM. When I open my Leatherworking tab, I can't see any of those profit prices. Nothing showing there. Am I missing something?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Have you got the TSM app running and does it have your realms data?

[@ibrahimonal90]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW yeah that was the problem, I fixed it now. I have watched the series of TSM videos of yours and now I started using it very effectively. I am deeply grateful for this beautiful work and simple explanations. Thank you Sir.

[@robertjones-nd8hz]

I have also been enjoying these guides. I'm starting to get a grip on TSM but I didn't find the buying section of this video all that clear, From about 13 mins onwords. Any chance of you doing that part again?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

If there's a particular bit you're not sure of, feel free to stop by the stream or ask here and I'll help if I can.

[@Megalodon89]

hi there. i dont really understand the shopping operation with avgbuy. if u use that it will drop the value every buy u make. so your 100% value will drop too. at some point u have to buy higher than 100% right? sorry english is not my native language.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Yeah, that's true depending on how the market moves. You tend to get a feel for when to buy over your 100%

[@JuanPLaiun]

For some reason the Crafting Groups aren't doing the job for me, I keep clicking on "Restock Selected Groups" but nothing. Strange, did everything like you did in the video

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

It depends on the profit margins on your server. It will only craft if it's in profit using my settings. Also, check you don't have any in your bank as they will count toward the overall stock number.

[@ccosta55]

Hi. Very helpful series of videos. A question: you’ve mentioned a couple of times that it’s easier to add items to the groups if they are in your bag. How do you add items if they’re not in your bag. For eg, I want to create a shopping operation to buy some crafting items that I don’t currently have. Thanks.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

It's not very easy, but it is doable. I use the following method - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWO3m4GlrspqgMk

[@ccosta55]

Thanks!

[@agrestatristan6726]

I have an issue about restock. When i use my restock TSM group, it sets up my crafts on all enchanters characters, even if i ignored all characters (except the one interested) in the crafting operations. Because of that, my TSM task list is fucked up cause it tells me to log on my other enchant character to buy the mats missing. Could you help me out ?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Ignoring other characters should work in the crafting operation. Perhaps ask in the wow economy discord? discord.gg/woweconomy

[@thegame2427]

How do you turn the sale alert "cash register" on? So it tells you when you sell something. Good stuff.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I use a separate addon called isold more - wow.curseforge.com/projects/isold-more

[@thegame2427]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW thank you

[@thegreekgeek7113]

Really appreciate your vids. Gave me the courage to take on the beast we call TSM4. Quick thing, Do you keep "Cancel undercut auctions" / "Cancel to repost higher" checked as yes on the Canceling tab? Not sure if I should or not. Thank you

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I normally keep them checked

[@thegreekgeek7113]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW Appreciate it, last question I swear!! I am having duplicate enchants in my Crafting Reports window with different crafting cost, but the same Operation. Any idea? There are basically different crafting costs for the same item with the same operation. Thank you!!

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I've not seen those before, could they be different ranks? I don't normally look in Crafting Report.

[@thegreekgeek7113]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW Ok thanks again!!

[@iluminax9320]

If i click on Running shopping scan, there just the auctionhouse sound and nothing happens :/

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Sounds strange, have you checked "show items above max price"? That would show something up I think.

[@Gaming-Doc]

Top guide mate. Very clear and logical. Hope sniper guide is in the pipeline :) Was also wondering if there is an option to post and undercut certain stacks? As for example. undercut only those that are 200 stacks by 1c.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks! Yes, there will be a sniper one. For certain stacks there is an option in the Details tab to match stack size and TSM will only look at auctions that are the same as the specified stack in the operation.

[@rares120]

Great guide, but I'm having trouble using those values with TSM4. It won't let me post the auction a (110% crafting) as it doesnt work, and all I get is error/invalid. Could somebody help me understand? I cannot sell the flasks I made.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

If crafting is invalid, it usually means TSM does not know the price of some of the materials for that item. Check the tooltip for each material and see what TSM says.

[@BST89]

Hello, sorry if this is no longer usefel to you, but maybe i can help someone out who runs into this issue. It is possible TSM has no info on expulsum and the like or tidalcore, open your crafting , go to "crafting reports" then click "materials" and search for those non tradeable items and give them a gold value yourself. This solved the issue for myself. Sorry about the English it's not great, i know.

[@ratsyj1229a]

Great video, do you know if it is possible to make a profession group automatically like you could on tsm3 ("create profession group" adds all items you can craft to one group)?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Sadly you can't. That's one of the TSM3 features that didn't come through. :(

[@RootofEvilify]

Hello Samadan. I learned a lot while watching your TSM videos. I have setup operations for materials, pets, transmog, crafting. Can you provide show us some method for mounts and dropped greens, blue and purple items? :) Thank you! :)

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks! I tend to look to dbregionmarketavg or some component of it combined with dbmarketavg as my operations.

[@LordNeltharion]

Hey so I am following along at least I think I am but when I used the operation to post one (using the new AH) it said there was one beyond my maximum price so it was posting it at Max. okay sure but it was posting it about 2.6k gold when the only one posted was going for 16k gold (the Normal price according to TSM) in terms of crafting so I was wondering why some operations make it so it'll say in the profession things are worth over 10k when the auctioning using only crafting as a source is putting it much much lower? Edit: Nvm after a small instant headache decided to mess with the numbers a bit for the Auctioning operation to match what TSM was pulling for how much it was worth (Probably due to the cost to make it being so low) and needless to say it got to some crazy %s to get it to match

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Glad you got it working. As you found out when using crafting, sometimes the difference can be quite high!

[@LordNeltharion]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW Indeed just about everything but Min is nearing 10k% and if anything has be concerned as to why they would go so high or if my market is being inflated

[@i0wNz407]

Is there a way to include a disenchant search when your searching for a particular dust or shard?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Not yet, I don't think that has been added from 3 yet

[@rotrot.graddiv.-.3766]

I realy enjoy your guides, I'm french and there is no real guides for french people. If I can understand what you mean that is the proof of your videos are very noticeable !

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thank you! Very kind of you to say.

[@mw6529]

Good video! Guides is the way to go!!!

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks! I'm glad they are being well received

[@Krissam2k]

Little tip: Use something like first(avgbuy, dbmarket) as the max price on shopping operations, that way it will use avgbuy if it exists, otherwise fall back on dbmarket.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

That's a good tip! I've stayed away from combining sources for these initial videos, but that's a really good example.

[@robo2458]

May be as you progress the guide it is something you could cover

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Yes certainly will!

[@Riodhan]

Personally I would never use avgbuy as my first choice Max shopping price. I'm not sure I would use avgbuy at all really. I would use avgbuy for material and crafting costs but not for max shopping cost. If you have avgbuy as your max, and you are only ever buying under the max, the avgbuy goes down and down and down until you are bottlenecking shopping prices. Example: You buy a stack of plat ore at 40g/ore. your avgbuy is 40g/ore. your max shopping is now 40g/ore. You are limiting your shopping to everything under 40g/ore. Next stack you buy is 35g/ore. Your average drops to 37.5g/ore. Now your max price is at 37.5g/ore. The Market value for Plat Ore is, let's say, 75g/ore. So you are already buying at a max of 50%dbmarket. You buy your next stack at 30g/ore. Your avgbuy is now 35g/ore and so your max shopping is also 35g/ore. The market price is still around 75-80g/ore. You are noticing fewer and fewer stacks appearing at a price you can buy at because most stacks start at around 50g/ore. How screwed are you becoming? avgbuy is not the ideal pricing to use for shopping. it is best used for crafting and material prices. You *could* use avgbuy as a safety measure or worst case scenario in the event someone is trying to inflate prices beyond reason (e.g. 200% avgbuy) but dbregionmarketavg should easily cover that. Also, it would be a good idea to use "crafting" and "vendorbuy" in the max shopping price as you don't really want to buy something that you can craft for cheaper or buy from a vendor. This would work as a basic max shopping price that should suit most as a default: first(vendorbuy, crafting, min(dbmarket, 150% dbregionmarketavg)) If it can be bought from a vendor, it will only show items listed below the vendor price. If it is not a vendor item, it will check if you can buy it for less than the cost to craft that item. If it is not a vendor item and also cannot be crafted by you, then it will use the lowest value between your server market price and 150% of the region market avg. The 150% is to take into account differences between server prices but also limits your purchase prices incase of hyper inflation on your server (pretty much a safety net from dbmarket manipulation) You can easily lower your shopping price by using a percentage for dbmarket and/or crafting if you want to max profits from flipping or crafts e.g 50% dbmarket

[@Krissam2k]

You should never EVER consider avgbuy for crafting cost, it's the biggest rookie mistake EVER, depending on use however it can be fine as a lazy price for shopping.

[@cherrib00m]

How come AH also auctions out my grey items thats not even grouped but only is in my bag?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

If you have the base group selected when you post and it has the #default operation, it will try to sell anything not in a group.

[@cherrib00m]

But ive changed all my groups to the operation like u did, its not on default but it still happens :/

[@TheDooksofDoom]

Is there a way to make TSM account for the proc chance on flasks and potions?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I think you can in a custom price. I've not tried integrating it into TSM though, so personally I look at procs as happy little accidents :)

[@nunitv2544]

Hello! The sale rate that I see you looking at 1:00 isn't showing for me on the crafting tab. Is that an option that I have to change or is it not working currently?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

It should be working, although for new BfA items I would expect it to take some time for data to come through

[@UndoerRS]

Hi Samadan, well done! I've watched all the TSM playlist, very helpful. I just have one question, maybe I missed you explaining it in the videos. How can I set a price for Expulsom/Bloods of Sargeras? Could you please point out which video it was in if I've missed it? Or just explain how to do it? Thanks mate, I appreciate the effort you've put into all these videos.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

There's a couple of good sources for such things .. Expulsom - www.dippingintogold.com/scrapping-and-expulsom-value/ Blood of Sargeras - www.reddit.com/r/woweconomy/comments/85808j/question_on_custom_prices_for_blood_of_sargeras/

[@T675Sparky]

Thanks for the great guides! I do have one question: I currently have Herbalism and Alchemy as my chosen professions, so I can gather all the materials I need to craft flasks. However, when I go to the Alchemy crafting with TSM, it still shows the flasks as -1,500g profit. Is this because the herbs themselves can be sold for more than the market value of flasks? Anchor Weed specifically still goes for ~700g/pc on my realm.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Yep, that's what TSM is valuing them at based on the current market. If you want to set your own prices as you gather yourself, a fixed gold value may help, but remember Opportunity Cost, the time it takes you to farm them is worth something.

[@T675Sparky]

What would you do in this scenario? Stockpile all my Anchor Weed and wait until their value drops to craft flasks, and continue to sell the other herbs for now? Or sell my Anchor Weed now for the high prices and then buy them back once they're cheaper?

[@MrTheFoam]

How do i set my normal price to just undercut the current cheapest buyout? For example crafted blue items are above my maximum i just want to post them 1c under the current lowest buyout.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

With crafted blues, they come in different variations. You can us "Ignore Random Enchants" to undercut all variations or leave it turned off to undercut only one of that particular type.

[@ashhardingham4923]

Great videos but I do have a question, I don't really know the simplest way to ask, Is there a way to change a setting to show the total amount I will be paying for a stack of items, not the individual cost, I find myself running out of gold quickly because I think im buying something for say 50g but then realise i spent like 200g... Hope that makes sense?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I've not tested it, but try holding shift and see what info you get in the tooltip. That might work.

[@EndingChoice67]

Just trying to test out selling crafted items with some potions in Alchemy. I set the minimum price to 110% crafting, however when I try to post it says that it is invalid. Any clue why this could be happening?

[@markjones4853]

Thanks a million Sam, fantastic guilds

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

You're welcome!

[@debra3845]

When you're creating your "crafting 5 x 1 min 110%" I don't understand why you're putting that under Auctioning and not Crafting. Can you explain?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

It's because I'm using the cost it take to craft the item as a threshold so I don't post them for less than it costs me to make them.

[@debra3845]

Thank you! Another quick question. If I've managed to delete my #Default in one of my operations but would like to use it where can I copy the string and re-add it?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

You can make a second profile in the settings and copy it from there.

[@TheBestAsianGamer]

I am using the default settings for Shopping and all the % is 0. I thought they were underpriced and was going to flip them but then realized that I was buying at marketprice. Do you know why the % is 0?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Have you got data for your realm?

[@TheBestAsianGamer]

SamadanPlaysWoW I might have been the string. It just has 1c. I decided to make up a string. Do you have a video on strings?

[@Hatefullness]

is there a way to remove something from the ledger of expenses, i accidentally attempted to buy the longboi mount i didn't have the cash but its showing in my ledger of expenses and screwing up my profit margin calculations

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I don't know, I never tried one specific item. You can delete accounting data that is older than a set number of days, but I'm not sure that will help.

[@byramike]

I feel like I struggle with figuring out WHICH to queue up out of the crafting screen, because most of the mat costs are completely wrong. Region, global, etc are generally way off. My realm seems to have not a lot listed on the AH so the prices fluctuate wildly. Is there no way to use the TSM app's daily pulled data from the AH to find the minimum/avg price of mats that day? And then use that day's mat price to calculate the potential profit in the crafting queue? edit: I've had this for years and somehow just now realized that the simplest price source of DBMinBuyout is the min buyout from the last TSM AH pull. Still, seems like oversimplifying.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Yes, DBMinBuyout is the cheapest from the last scan. DBMarket is a weighted average over the last 14 days for your server. It's not daily, but gives you an idea. You can set mat costs manually if you feel they are way out, just to give you a more stable base to work from.

[@byramike]

For example, the crafting thing just told me the last scan had Dream Shards or something like that (my game isn't open now) for 58g each, and then when I went to add them to the list and actually buy the mats, I realized they were cheapest 120g. The item wasn't profitable anymore. But if I didn't actually look closely at each mat in each item, I wouldn't have seen this. Not sure how to catch these automatically or change the price sources to fix it.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

There's not much you can do about that unfortunately due to the time delay between scans. You could take DBMinBuyout out of the default craft value method in the settings -> crafting options. that way it won't be calculating mats that may or may not be there any more.

[@groiv6808]

Is there a way to be able to put all of the crafting items in que, positive or negative? Set this up for inscription, and the cost of the pigments is inflated on my market, so it thinks that most glyphs are not worth making due to the price of the pigment market.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I'm not sure if you can force craft a negative profit. The other workaround I can think of is to change the price of your pigments to something more akin to the price you got them for.

[@sharifr9752]

Quick question: why does my TSM 4 say the last update was "no data"? how to i update it? i already have the most recent update of the addon

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Have you got the desktop app running and notified TSM which server you are on?

[@sharifr9752]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW yes, and no I have not. How do I do that?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

It's on the TSM website under your account profile

[@myotom37]

Ok I’m trying to undercut everyone for my stuff and even when there are other auctions for same item it will post at normal price. I’ve tried with and without ignore item variation

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Could it be that they are below your minimum price or above your maximum price and TSM is set to post at normal?

[@myotom37]

I’m not sure cuz usually the other auction are in a regular price. Is there a way to set tsm up to specifically undercut everyone or is that what it’s suppose to do automatically? Thank you for response btw

[@zamis21]

I hope your around for this one. I am not a math person lol I set my min just like yours at "110% crafting" and when I run the post scan it tells me it is invalid and to check my setting. I'm lost.. pls help?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I would look at the item and see if tsm can calculate a crafting cost. Sometimes it's a material that doesn't have a price preventing it from calculating. You can see it in the crafting window if there are no figures in the profit section

[@Tuxxen]

Hey sam Would you still use AvgBuy for wow classic in settings - Custom Sources? since the prices are kinda unstable? I dont know what to do. When I " restock selected groups" I see a huge profit on items but when i come to AH the price of the items reguired to craft is WAY above the avgbuy. so if i auto buy with the TSM task list it feels like im gonna lose a ton of gold

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Maybe do avg(avgBuy, DBMarket) as a weighted compromise?

[@tex4096]

On my crafting TAB under the profit its just blank.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Have you got price data for your realm? or possibly TSM doesn't know the cost of some materials, it can happen on fresh installs before you visit vendors.

[@tex4096]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW I dont think i have price data.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Ok, have you downloaded the desktop app and registered your server on the tsm website?

[@smallrossy]

I'm not getting prices when i hover over the items..

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Has the rsm app downloaded the data for your realm? It should be there on the main screen of the app.

[@smallrossy]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW Managed to get it fixed, thanks anyway

[@TheEzmaralda]

Would you use convert for gems/prospecting?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I think so, I've not used those professions myself so can't confirm for sure.

[@AGVenge]

In classic, I have an issue with the "profit" lane in the crafting window... since im not trying to craft things to post on the ah directly (items), because i dont know the rate of which they sell and thus might lose gold on deposits, i would like to setup the crafting window to have profits calculated as selling the crafts to vendor (or further DE), and then i hope i can specify in the crafting windows (or elsewhere) that i will only ever buy a craft mat for a certain price (and never really at ah prices)... so is that doable?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Yes, you can change your crafting operation to overide the crafting cost method and change it to vendorsell

[@MasonC2K]

What happened to TSM automatically making the profession groups?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Sadly, it didn't make it to 4.

[@masatwwo6549]

Seriously ? Who made this decission should add all possible craftable items + all possible materials for all profession and all addons to TSM manually 400 times

[@TheWhoracle]

I know right, I loved it, select all transfer them in. Then Delete the ones I don't want because they dont make money or dont sell.

[@paulonunes1852]

I have been a while away from the game. Os tailoring still good with enchanting? Ty for the guide

[@mw6529]

Paulo Nunes it is m8.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Yes certainly, I'm using both on my main and enchanting is the stronger of the two. Disenchanting bracers is still an option, but on my realm it's cheaper to buy on AH.

[@paulonunes1852]

Ty for the awnsers. Next video ill be here

[@DestineysGuardian]

@Samadan Does having another type of AH addon running along side TSM cause any problems?? I have Auctioneer installed as well and am running it along side TSM, and the game keeps crashing as i try to use TSM. Just wondering. I have the most up to date version of both addons. I am going to deactivate Auctioneer to see if that helps.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I'm not aware of any conflicts. I know others have used both in the past. Let me know how you get on with it deactivated.

[@DestineysGuardian]

Thanks for the reply. TSM ran just fine with Auctioneer turned off. What did you mean buy "How you get on with it deactivated"? Kinda lost on that part. Also could you do another video or direct me to one if you already have it done, but I would like some explainations of the interface/s. Such as: 5 of 2 means that their is 5 stacks of 2 of item "X", like 5 stacks of Nagrand Arrowbloom for example of 2 per stack. I am correct on that? And does it show the total price or just the price per item? such as 5 x 2 at 38s 25c. Is that 38s per stack or 38s x2 for 76s total????? that REALLY confuses me. And is there any kind of way for me to setup "auto" purchase's, like if the item i want (Like Frostweed) is between 1g and 3g for a stack of 10 or something, i can tell TSM to "Scan and Buy"?? All of you videos have been a major help, and if you could go into a little more detail about setting up the whole (Crafting, dbmarket, etc) that would also be a big help. Thanks again for the reply.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Ok, so it sounds like a conflict if it worked ok with Auctioneer turned off. That's what I meant by how you got on with it deactivated. The first video in this series goes through the interface, but not in fine detail. You are correct 5 of 2 means 5 stacks of 2 items per stack. Usually TSM shows you the price per item, but it depends where you are looking specifically. If you are looking at the tooltip, hold shift down shows you per stack. The auto purchase can be done most closely with a shopping scan and tell TSM to not show items above your set price. Then it is easy to use the scrollwheel to buy everything up. I'll be doing some deep-dive videos in the near future.

[@DestineysGuardian]

:):) Thanks again for the replies. Glad i understand the basics of the interface, that thing is really hard to under stand. Is there a way to see the total price per stack when buying, without hitting "shift"? I am looking forward to you videos, that have been very helpful. Also do you have any problems with TSM when opening mail?? or hitting the refresh icon on the mail display?? I did that once and the game crashed. TSM is the only Mail addon I'm running at the moment. Thanks again for the reply.

[@dylan_uo9619]

Hello samadan great video

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks!

[@Kakascii]

hello im still very confused on how to use TSM ? so do I make for everything a new group ?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I would make groups for your items yes. Start with one and slowly build from there.

[@Kakascii]

ok i see, would it be best if i start in BFA ? cause atm its near the end of the expansion maybe smarter to wait ? why dont i see the hammers like in your other video for manual postings ?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I would personally say get started now even if you throw it away and start again, it's all learning. If you don't have the hammer, do you have the item in your bags?

[@Kakascii]

oh was that the problem I see, i thought it also worked in the bank.... so what I do is start from scratch delete the base groups and make my own groups ? but how do I know to change the market value like you did in your video ? is there a standard value that is best to know for lets say enchanting crafting items is it the value as ore from mining ?

[@JackBaboon]

Just a quick question if I want to set the operation min to 110% crafting. I use a bank alt toon on another account that doesn't have any professions. How do I use crafting as my min when I dont have crafting on that toon atm it just comes back as invalid min price. Thanks for the help

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I don't use a bank alt myself, but I think TSM should be aware of the character that can craft the item and will use that to calculate the price. I'll have to have a test to find out

[@JackBaboon]

SamadanPlaysWoW yeah I think it can pull the info from other toons on the same account. For me I have 2 wow accounts on the same bnet 1 is my bank toon so I can play and use ah at the same time. Noticed that the materials part was empty on my bank. Was wondering if I can fill that info or something like that so I can fill in the prices. Also wanted to say thanks for the videos they have been a great help loving this shuffle it’s made me about 500k last week. It does get time consuming it does help I have 2 accounts 1 account is tail/lether 1 account tail/ench I farm my own cloth with tools of the trade. Then just make bracers send bracers between chars and yeah it’s crazy. Bank alt helps with being able to cancel scan and repost while playing. Also all the vids on tsm were a great help for setting up groups and learning the mailing function has cut down so much time for me. Thanks again

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Yes, I can see the issue trying to tell TSM another character on another account is doing the crafting and working out the cost accordingly. I've not tried it, so not sure fully.

[@eriknilsson3640]

When i buy something cheaper, i dont know what the original value nor how to sell it at that value, because whenever i try to sell the item it puts it up for minimal value. Pls help

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Has your TSM got data for your realm? It's in the app settings when you register on their website

[@eriknilsson3640]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW Ive set everything up now and it works ty!. Currently im trying to get started with flipping, but i got no idea where to start. Any tips?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

You could try pretty stacking materials or look for BoE's that have unusual properties like Leech and see if they are listed alongside ones without and push the price up. I've never done it myself, I think it's a question of starting small and get a feel for the market.

[@garyphelps6048]

I cleared out my queue and not I can't get any rings to show up in the crafting queue.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

It will be either the profit settings or you may have some still on ah or bags. Failing that, try checking your auctions so tsm can "see" what you have. Other things I forget is to make sure the group is selected!

[@yepyepyep3]

make sure to check "ignore varations" in the group if you for example craft armguards of x/y/z (different names for different stats). This will make it work.

[@alexandruioanagafitei3840]

haw does he scan so fast and I have to wait a lot of time depending on how many items i have in my bag

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Some auction houses are slower, plus I edit these videos to keep them succinct.

[@lelandwhitehead56]

Why would you want Averagebuy on shopping? Wouldn’t something like DBMarket be more useful? Reason being is if you only ever buy at your Avebuy or lower, you’d be able to buy less and less mats each time you shopped, unless the market was crashing

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I use it as a visual indicator of my own prices. I always show auctions above avgbuy and will buy higher if necessary.

[@gamermom2071]

I made a ton of groups yesterday and had all of the operations set up and today they are all gone. Any ideas?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I'm not sure unless WoW didn't exit correctly. I had that happen with macros the other day. Perhaps check your tsm app, the default is to backup every hour. Perhaps there is an older one you can restore?

[@JoeGameVideos]

where is my post from bag option ;/

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

It's all wrapped up into the default operations and the base group now.

[@JoeGameVideos]

yea but some items wont post now like 40% of my auctions and i used the same operations as before and the normal drag n post i had discount on 3% i cant do that anymore either..

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Ah right, it's not a feature I used myself in 3, so not sure what to suggest other than put them in groups and post the regular way?

[@JoeGameVideos]

also noticed to post it takes soooooooooo long so sudden i cant post my 3000 autions anymore...

[@ercarp7847]

Why only 5 at a time? I have tons of gems in my bags and I wanna get rid of them... I don't understand why I should auction only 5 stacks of 1 at a time. :/

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

You don't at all. You can make a specific one to get ridd of mass items with a different operation in higher stack sizes.

[@martinrosschou]

This guy is gold! Literally :P

[@Nobody2463]

Could I get a copy of your profile for TSM 4?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Sure - pastebin.com/uDDSpU6s

[@TheGodgwennn]

hey man just used this link and imported...but A LOT of the groups are the default operation. Is there anyway to get the right operations with the groups they belong to?

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Unfortunately there seems to be a bug with TSM at the moment and it's not importing them correctly.

[@TheGodgwennn]

welll that sucks...in one of the vids you talked about doing a monthly update on your TSM..would you mind doing a (short) vid of which groups and operators go with each other? love the tutorial just wanted yours since its already done. To tweak it a bit and thanks a bunch for all the help!!!!

[@Mewhywhy1]

Awesome! They have been really helpful thus far! Any chance for a Sniper setup tutorial with your soothing voice? :D Thanks! PS: I subscribed keep up the good work you deserve it.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks! Yes, sniper is in the works!

[@adamdzem]

Nice video, very helpfull

[@felixhogsander2533]

@SamadanPlaysWoW I've followed your shopping operation for my JC, though when I am shopping it still shows as 999%, is it just me or :P I mean I clicked it and got the highest auction at the top which was 1k blablabla, and clicked again and got lowest which is 28g buyout, but still shows as 999% xD

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Do you have an avgBuy figure for the item? If so, how much does it differ from the current shopping list?

[@DozerbobTV]

good job on the guide

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thankyou!

[@tetchyirl2894]

Absolutely fantastic content. Thank you so much. Am recommending to everyone. (Posting same comment on all in series with a thumbs up)

[@TheWhoracle]

Watched the whole video to find out how to add things from a profession without having to have them already crafted. I knew how to do it with the OLD tsm, but the new one... I just hope I dont need to look up 100s of item numbers on wowhead again.

[@TheWhoracle]

What I decided to do was go through my enchanting list and cue up all the items that had decent sell rates + profit from each expansion. So like 5-8 items from each expansion, and then use gathering on AH and crafting and de buyouts to collect the mats and then I'll have them in my inventory. A lot less work than alt tabbing 1000 times taking item numbers from wowhead.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Yeah, I feel your pain. It is not simple that's for sure. You can use this method to speed things up - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWO3m4GlrspqgMk

[@iam-jo6xp]

110% don't work.. keep getting error message about it..

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Is it with a crafted item that doesn't have a material price for one of it's components? A common one is things that need Blood of Sargeras as it needs it's own price put in manually. You can do that in Crafting Window -> Crafting Reports -> Materials

[@iam-jo6xp]

not only that.. also getting it like for... raw riverbeast meat and cloth ….. message is... didn not post (….) because our normal price 120% dbmarket is invalid... and so on and on..... im gonna play your video again see if I miss something

[@iam-jo6xp]

NVM I find out what is was.... didn't have the server on the TSM website... so for every server you have ou need to make sure you have it down and update it... heheh Noob me

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Ah, cool. Glad you found the source of the problem! I've done many a thing like that :)

[@eastmeetsfist5620]

like+sub...just for the Beard.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Thanks!

[@furydeath]

im just here cause TSM 3 is now dead with the new AH :(

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

I can understand wanting to keep the old one.

[@furydeath]

@@SamadanPlaysWoW ya i already miss it lol

[@codyrobinette9644]

just saying... you and shey.. both made pretty awful mistakes.. your putting in min(avgbuy for crafting.. I was wondering why it was acting like I was making so much gold.. when you do that.. its estimating values of matts.. which was very.. very. incorrect. Going off what I have figured out, it shouldn't say min, it should say first(dbminbuyout, After sitting here mind fucked all day watching your videos and sheys.. I realized that both of you made the same mistake.. after changing this, my profits were much more realistic because of the increase/decrease in matts.

[@SamadanPlaysWoW]

Absolutely use whichever works best for you. It's good to question and test and evolve, I like to look at the mat cost in the tooltip and check against what I think it should be worth and adjust accordingly. Usually for me in most cases it's "close enough"