Samsung 89-inch MicroLED vs 85" Mini LED TV Shootout at CES 2022 - WOW!

Samsung put its new 89-inch MicroLED TV vs the company's 85-inch flagship 4K Neo QLED TV in a side-by-side comparison at CES 2022. There have also been improvements to the manufacturing process and LED chip size, which will hopefully bring the sky-high price down... eventually.
Besides 89 inches, Samsung's 2022 Micro LED TV is also available in pre-assembled sizes of 101 inches and 110 inches. The South Korean brand is continuing to position MicroLED as its highest-tier display technology ahead of QD-OLED.
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[@steadychaosproductions3376]

Micro LED is the absolute future. Its basically oled with more brightness and no burn in risk. Of course its going to blow any conventional LED LCD away.

[@DedricSilva]

I'm ready for it especially since i'm an OLED fan.

[@he.lena21]

Yeah, and then, I think QDEL will be the last tech

[@strongforce8466]

you sure about no burn in ?

[@whitecrowuk575]

Not necessarily- oled tech is not standing still and with QD OLED we can see how closely it will match LED in brightness color volume and still to have edge in contrast. With heat sink becoming soon a standard in OLED tvs - that will also drastically decreases risk of burn in. In the end price will dictate what stays and what not - Samsung have ridiculous pricing for flagship models that trump best OLEDs. if they lower it they stand a chance otherwise there won’t be many prepared to spend that much

[@RobertK1993]

@@whitecrowuk575 QD OLED will replace LCD I think and WOLED

[@alex46801]

"...KZbinrs who buy and return TVs on a weekly basis to produce content." Sick burn 😂😂😂

[@Captain-Comedy]

I'm not even looking for a TV and just want to say your dedication to the industry is inspirational. I know it's just TVs, but your dedication to each video and the information you provide deserves way more subscribers than what you have.

[@Layarion]

i'm here for the sexual innuendo's.

[@Im_too_old_for_this_shit]

I'm here mostly for sexual education. TV reviews don't hurt either.

[@robertcrawford1142]

You do mean the information that is bought and paid for ?. I mean are you telling me people who can afford tvs at this price actually watch youtube(i dont) as they will visit store or pay someone to get best for them.And his dig about KZbinrs buying it and then taking back 2 days later.I was wondering how all the youtubers started in the game as not everyone can just go out and buy £3000 tvs etc.

[@mihailmilev9909]

@@Im_too_old_for_this_shit I have not watched the video yet and I found this channel today but I stand with this statement

[@mihailmilev9909]

@@robertcrawford1142 I feel like I can agree with something that you tried to say here, but there was so many things said back to back without context or transition or supporting vocabulary that I didn't really understand what u said or referring to lol.

[@Silentship98]

Samsung should definitely keep doing micro. Once they can be afforded by normal people, they will overtake the market. It’s extremely bright, can do perfect black and has no burn in. DO IT

[@MuhammadKharismawan]

And still prone to breaking with modules replacement before a year is to be expected by its trained assembler.

[@saucyx4]

It’s perfect black?

[@Silentship98]

@@saucyx4 yes

[@Silentship98]

@@MuhammadKharismawan is that actually a thing? Anyway of course the tech has to be advanced and all.

[@saucyx4]

@@Silentship98 I know what to get once I’m wealthy enough 😂

[@ThioJoe]

I was about to comment that Micro LED seems like the endgame of TVs, then he said it himself

[@adityaarayan2340]

How about a rolling MicroLED Tv ?

[@InnuendoXP]

Yeah honestly, it has the promise of all the benefits of other display technologies such as CRT, OLED, LCD, with none of the drawbacks, while exceeding them on just about every metric. Black frame insertion + slot/dotmask CRT shaders on an OLED 'would' have been a perfect way to replicate the look of those older CRT displays except for lower peak brightness & burn-in risk. Micro LED addresses all of these issues, and if it becomes the market standard, I think even the retro-gaming crowd would finally be able to concede that display tech has achieved a net progression (except post-process effects to mimic CRT introduce latency but... I'll take it).

[@thenonexistinghero]

Well, there's still ways to go after that. And it's also looking like VR and AR will be common in a few years from now, so immersive gaming and movie watching and whatnot will also have a lot of room to grow in there.

[@InnuendoXP]

@@thenonexistinghero those platforms seem a bit beyond the scope of 'TV Screen' but sure. It isn't related to tech which presents the picture of the display itself though. Though a 16K 360hz micro-LED VR headset may well be some kind of end-game in & of itself in another 15-20 years or so. But then there's retinal projection technology which is probably the AR endgame so who knows.

[@FredCracklin]

Technology will progress with something better, it always does. I'd like to see more led alternatives explored.

[@Sheepy007]

Micro LED seems Like the ultimate endgame in regards of TVS . I cant even Imagine what Coupe possibly bei added beyond that

[@xXYannuschXx]

After that, the next step would be holographic displays, which require ALOT more resolution.

[@greendusk93]

Micro LED 2 duhh

[@StinkFingerr]

@xXYannuschXx If you were to come into possession of a video with my Ex in it, I'd recommend you put it on the lowest resolution possible.

[@AdiiS]

@@greendusk93 it's like saying PC 2 lol

[@KRIL89]

Wouldn't something like self emissive quantum dot display be the next one. Or at least just as good vs microLED. The next step would be whatever can get you close to the color space the human eye can see.

[@lowtohigh6009]

4:15 shots fired 🤣🤣

[@RobertK1993]

If anyone buys Micro LED I think have no sense even if they are millionaire banker because the Micro LED TVs are first gen tech

[@JoelsterG4k]

Those Micro LED displays looked amazing, it is very hard to capture with a camera, but in person the picture looks incredible, Samsung has been improving their micro leds and hopefully they make it affordable for everyone.

[@guily6669]

I don't think it will ever be cheap because you have to pay for millions of fully calibrated good quality RGB LEDs and a damn nice controller to control all of those individual LEDs to high brightness and control each sub pixel of any pixel alone for all of them. A way to make them a bit cheaper would be using all LEDs blue and use a quantum dot color filter which is cheaper than RGB LEDs and easier to control them since they are all the same but would also not be as good as a pure RGB microled and will still not be exactly cheap...

[@pandapolygon]

why u didnt film in HDR????

[@BlackJesus8463]

@@guily6669 That'll be midrange in a few years. Really looking forward to affordable microled though.

[@guily6669]

@@BlackJesus8463 I don't think there will be any better display technology than pixels made of LEDs other than just using better LEDs, making them brighter... It will surely get cheaper some day but paying for the many millions of LEDs I don't think will be much cheap ever, at least not as close as LCD or OLED...

[@BlackJesus8463]

@@guily6669 Hey man if QD-OLED can do it microled can do it.

[@nosm]

I've worked on this technology, when it comes for price you should expect it to be expensive for quite some time. µLED diodes are made mainly with the help of Gallium Nitride material (GaN) which emits a blue light, this material can be changed a bit by injecting other chemical components like Arsenide to change the color to Green and Red (Red diodes are the hardest to make), the main problem is that the growth of Gallium Nitride material is very very slow and hard because the method used for growth is a bit complex and this material has much more physical problems or impurities than per example Silicon, trying to add another chemical element to change color only make it harder to get more efficient diodes with no problems. at this moment, the main way for this technology to be easily available for the public is by mcuh smaller µLED displays (smart glasses, AR tech, Military HUDs...), from what I've heard I believe Apple will be the first company to make it available trough their smartwatches with this tech, the growth method for this material needs to be developed in order to make it cheaper.

[@BlackJesus8463]

So you can't just build more machines or whatever? lol

[@Im_too_old_for_this_shit]

Hello and thanks for your input. It's always nice to hear someone who was directly involved in the development. I have a few questions if you don't mind. 1.) What's the life expectancy of the microLED diode compared to regular LED diodes used in contemporary LCD screens? 2.) Theoretically, can the screen be used with the same quantum dot layer as a regular VA matrix can, to improve it's color gamut and viewing angles even further? 3.) For how long will the market needs to wait before we see 65" microLED TV's at a same price as today LCD's? Do you have any approximation? My guess is probably around 15 years, because that's how long it took OLED to gain traction. What do you think?

[@ftlaud911]

Wow - now that is what I want!! Only have to wait like 10yrs for it make it to an affordable model.

[@MostlyPennyCat]

Yep, can't wait myself. This year I'm going to get a miniLED and be very happy with it until uLED is affordable. What's your definition of affordable?

[@MostlyPennyCat]

If you were to get a miniLED, which would you get?

[@alexworm1707]

Yeah it will take a long ass time

[@MostlyPennyCat]

It's the Sony XR-65X95K miniLED for me

[@Nyle95]

@@MostlyPennyCat Would prefer OLED over MiniLED

[@spacebarwasd9782]

Just got my first oled last year... I can wait for many years for micro LED to mature and go down in price while I enjoy my matured oled.

[@Snskch3]

I’m in the same boat

[@spacebarwasd9782]

@@Snskch3 yeh and nothing beats oled in terms of response time. Not even micro LED.

[@jba2693]

@@spacebarwasd9782 Actually microled should have even better respone time than oled

[@goldclip752]

That Linus burn tho! Haha

[@MuhammadKharismawan]

Well Linus kinda just uses the TV he's given than buying and selling them for content, He's famous enough to not need to do that anymore.

[@UIDesignChannel]

1. The next logical step is to put three primary colors out of visible range and cover with such gamut-triangle all human retina possible colors. 2. Then make all primaries with 20-bit resultion 3. And finally transfer updates on 512-1024Hz on pixel-by-pixel manner to get rid of ancient (full frame update) frequency idea THIS will be the Endgame of color representation for the flat surfaces. Like humanity finished the full coverage of the human audio channels. All you have to do at the end is to build it as self-charging cloth :)

[@BlackJesus8463]

nerd

[@Im_too_old_for_this_shit]

It is said in the video that they intend to use 20 bit processing on microLED, so there's that for now.

[@toddpeterson5904]

DCI-P3 seems achievable by many displays now, so I hope that displays manufacturers will start sharing coverage of bt.2020, as that is much bigger and relevant for HDR content

[@qiuboujun]

Only neon lights need bt2020 to display accurately. Most of the real world object are not that saturated and there are more important specs for tv to deliver a better image.

[@UIDesignChannel]

With the microLEDs you can do much more - you can put all of R/G/B-primaries out of visible range and cover with such gamut-triangle all human possible colors.

[@damonm3]

I would’ve guessed $20/35/50k for the big microLED tvs… just off by 100k😂😂😂. I’ll be right one day… in about 5-10 years. The day an 80” is 5k…

[@ander1482]

Idk maybe this year they are cheaper

[@elmalloc]

why we watch this when 100% of us cannot afford these

[@hoteltango1]

Only $130k? Put me down for 3.

[@simon3461]

We all want this 110" micro LED TV ! Amazon 1-click-buy...

[@Sitti2300]

Forget QD-OLED, Micro LED is the ultimate TV we all will be upgrading to in the future when the price is lower enough.

[@saintkamus14]

The price could be 10 times lower, and the vast majority of us, would still not be able to afford one. (it would be about 13k if it was 10 times lower)

[@TheDNW]

If I spend 130k on a tv it better have a lifetime warranty with replacement due to ANY damage for ANY reason lol

[@STapia-hf7vp]

Looking forward to smaller more affordable sets in the future.

[@dogoku]

MicroLED seems very impressive, especially when it comes to brightness and colour accuracy, but how about refresh rates, response times, ghosting, etc?

[@SaiBorkX]

It's slower for now, current micro LED looks amazing, but it's not good for fast content.

[@SaiBorkX]

@John Wick Have a look at this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJPCd5Z3d7ueqMk You're probably better off to wait for the QD OLED displays

[@aquaneon8012]

microled response time is measured in nanoseconds compared to microseconds in oled. It has around 1000 times faster response time than oled. 1,000,000 times faster response time than lcd.

[@EyesOfByes]

4:16 Well, Linus didn't go through with the purchase 😉

[@RYTHMICRIOT]

Linus Tech Tips had a very interesting video about Micro-LED TV'S a few months ago as he wanted to buy one and have it installed. But for very concerning reasons the company he went through suggested against it and pointed out some pretty troubling flaws that are currently present in the technology. For starters the wall where the TV is to be installed requires a "level 5" wall finish where particular grade drywall is used, then they mud and sand the wall so it achieves a tolerable level of flatness so that the panels can be installed. This is so when the modular panels are interconnected the visible seam between panels is minimized. Another issue is that the panels require color matching as there is variation that is delectable to the human eye. And because individual panels fail, you must pursue matching replacement panels. Now, this may not apply to large singular panels or fixed size TV'S, but the modular panels Samsung has demonstrated appear to be completely illogical at this point.

[@BlackJesus8463]

These are on stands.

[@jimj2683]

who cares? Those are just prototypes anyway

[@DR-xm9ck]

Samsung's refusal to support Dolby Vision is idiotic. It would cost them six to ten dollars per unit. Yes, they claim they have something superior but just do both and take away the issue.

[@genxtechguy]

Yep, as great as their televisions can be, I still avoid them due to lack of Dolby Vision support.

[@justdev8965]

Dolby had the worst audio Codec. I don't trust their quality of work for picture either. Watching movies in DTS has always been a far more pleasant experience than Dolby Digital. Don't even get me going on Dolby Pro Logic II. It was better to do just regular stereo!

[@kevonmanuel]

@3:54 ---- Shots fired at Quantum TV. QUANTUM TV - The Best Buy security guard, who pretends to be a trained TV calibrator.

[@emzor6301]

he works at bestbuy? no wonder he gets early reviews of new tvs

[@SSNebula]

I thought it was shots at Linus if anyone lol

[@EdgeOfDarkness86]

"Expert"

[@kevonmanuel]

@@emzor6301 That clown put out a video 2 weeks ago called: Most Returned TV Brand At Best Buy Today

[@444chroma]

MicroLED is the eventual successor to OLED. They're basically 100" reference monitors

[@MrCREWCRUSHIN95]

It is a fusion of LCD and OLED. It has the blacks of OLED (minus the sh*tty low luminance), and the luminance of LCD (minus the blooming blacks). Best of both worlds.

[@najsbajsmedmajs]

What about doing a QD-microled, i.e. using the same QD technology used in QD-OLED but using blue LEDs instead of blue OLEDs?

[@Denquu]

Didnt Samsung’s Micro-Led use to be said to reach around 4000 nit in peak brightness (in marketing in the previous years) while the current Mini-Leds are marketed to reach around 2000 nits? No doubt they still look absolutely amazing compared to anything else, but just something that caught my eye in the marketing materials compared to what I’d remember hearing from previous years.

[@GregReavis]

consequences of making them smaller. Those crazy 200" displays were able to do that but had severe reliability issues. The gaps in the modules was super noticeable also. More for commercial use.

[@shekhsaiful1054]

To be honest u don't need more than 3000 nits (for human eyes ) . And even 2000 nits is enough for a large bright room

[@MrCREWCRUSHIN95]

I thought that too. My 2016 Sony Z9D already does 2000 nits- I expect more!!

[@AlucardNoir]

130 000 USD ... I miss the time when the 3 000 USD Sony XEL-1 was considered expensive.

[@ram64man]

As much as I like Samsung’s new qd-oled I’m still hoping Samsung release a 64inch 4k micro led please Samsung support Dolby vision at ces 2023 don’t go full qd-oled

[@moisegradel946]

"It's only one big problem price" 😂

[@yashsabarad6171]

I think I’d like to see more on specifically MicroLED vs QDOLED

[@ninfreak95]

Is this the end all of tv technology? Once it can be any size, has no heating problems, and has a cheap price, what more could a screen ever do? It has the full vision spectrum covered, including true blacks, has more brightness than is ever needed, other than the possible input lag difference from OLED for gamers... I don't see anything left to improve.

[@leecm]

I'm confused. Are the seams visible on those TVs that Samsung had on display, if you look close? I know you said that they are still modular and Samsung had them set to super bright, but it wasn't clear whether the seams are still visible.

[@BlackJesus8463]

Yeah you can see it from an off angle. You won't be able to tell when watching media though.

[@scottylans]

As long as it's modular, I have no interest

[@BlackJesus8463]

@@scottylans You sure it's not the $100,000 price tag?

[@Im_too_old_for_this_shit]

@@BlackJesus8463 LMAO

[@Sheepy007]

@@scottylans why?

[@22gomdory]

Micro LED is like a legendary pokemon. I can only hear about it from time to time.

[@sevencolours5014]

Too small. I'm waiting for 254" model. I'll finally replace my projector screen.

[@nyquil07na38]

I have two oled's the lg EA9800 and a Sony A80J. I will be looking for another tv in 5 years. I hope this will be a somewhat affordable technology in the next 5 years. 2,000 is nits is insane. Dolby vision has to be glorious.

[@RacingPotato12]

If Samsung starts doing Dolby Vision till then lol.

[@adityaarayan2340]

Wait for 2032 and it will be affordable for upper middle class guys like you , next five years QNED OLED will be the cheaper thing

[@maperez12]

How is that first generation LG OLED holding up?

[@konga382]

Another downside to the tech in its current state, other than the cost, is power consumption. This thing apparently consumes an enormous amount of power, and it generates a shitload of heat. With last year's TVs, samsung was recommending dedicated circuits and a dedicated hvac system just for the display. We are still many years away from these being viable for a normal home it seems.

[@ShiroiNihonjin]

As I understand it, microLED is more efficient than other display technologies, meaning its high power consumption is merely due to being bigger and producing a higher light output in absolute terms.

[@osaobeid7828]

It is a fact that microleds are more efficient even than oleds so I don't know what you are talking about. They get very hot that'd true because they are so small and so bright at the same time. This will get better in the futurr

[@BasketKees]

This is correct, currently these screens draw a lot of power. Can’t find info on the modules of this year, but last years modules had a max power draw of just under 200 W (with 9 modules used in a 110” screen). One would need some serious extra cooling not to turn the lounge into a sauna when switching on the tv. So you are right that power usage is a factor in getting this technology to (mainstream) market. But it has been coming down quite quickly, the first versions of The Wall used a lot more. And by their nature, LEDs are more efficient than OLEDs, so the end result will hopefully be a lower power draw than current technology. These screen are not going mainstream anytime soon though and not just because of power draw. Pixel size and manufacturing are major hurdles yet to be tackled. By the time microLED is ready for market 8k will be the norm while currently 89” is the smallest we can make a 4k screen. 4k microLED at 55” will take a while, let alone 8k. And there will need to be a new way of producing microLED screens. Picking up each single LED from the silicon wafer and placing it on the screen substrate will never be able to compete with the way OLEDs are printed. Something new will have to be invented. OLED will have plenty more time to shine, I don’t see microLED going mainstream before the end of the decade. It is something nice to look forward to though.

[@TheSimpleSuperior1]

I wonder if micro led would shrink down to a 55” tv. That would be the dream.

[@vgnvideogameninja2930]

Don't know if they'll be able to shrink it that much, but wouldn't surprise me if eventually the get it down to 75". Maybe 65".

[@peat381low8]

I can't wait for the price of MicoLED to come down like all great products. My next TV is going to be one that will bring home theater size to my living room to stream everything. Can't wait.

[@AppIeOfficial]

gonna be waiting 20 years lol

[@thenonexistinghero]

I can't wait for MLED to be affordable. Hopefully by the time it's time for me to get a new TV. I'm willing to spend more than usual for that kind of TV, but €10K would still be too much for me. Needs to come down to at least €4K-€5K.

[@Cookie2k]

All good but they need to get these microLED TV’s down to at least 65inch soon!

[@RSV9]

Two things : 1. Vincent is surely waiting for a 200-inch TV with 3500 nits. 2. To be honest, I do not understand the need for 2000 nits. Already with 600-800 nits on my television, sometimes my eyes hurt when unexpectedly come out very bright images, for example from the sky or changes between dark and then very bright images. But that is me … 🤷‍♂️

[@TorqueFormulaWon]

I'm the same.

[@Justice_Akbr]

Is micro led safer than mini led for eyes' health? If so why they don't use micro led screens in laptops, monitors, phones, tablets, watches?

[@N0N0111]

2000nits you better have all the lights in your room on, that is so insane bright!

[@KeinNiemand]

mini LED has nothing to do with micro led, micro led is closer to oled then mini led. Mini Led is just a regular lcd with better local dimming, while micro led, like oled has individual pixels that light up.

[@Achillias]

Microled problem is the fact they can't get the pixels small enough to get a 4K resolution on smaller TV sizes. Till now 55 and 65 inch is not possible to create. Let alone if the market switch to 8K.

[@rickwest4497]

It's only a matter of time before they can do it, likely using a printing process.

[@Achillias]

@@rickwest4497 It will take another 5 year, and that's only for 4K.

[@yahyaalkalbani9334]

They went from 99 to 85 inch in 1 year

[@Jeppelelle]

@@yahyaalkalbani9334 Yep, and down to 55" & then 8k will get exponentially faster now when they have invested in the production line, tooling & engineers

[@rkelez]

Who even wants a tv that small?

[@Zwolly]

Early adopters, do your thing! 😊 After that, can't wait to jump in in the near future.

[@marcuscole8796]

Samsung announced a 75" MicroLED tv at CES 2019 ... we are still waiting for this tv ... at least with "89 they managed to get closer now to what they promised in 2019.

[@skmetal7]

Is there a limit to how small of a display they can make? For displays smaller than 50" the micro led would have to become a nano led for a 4k display.

[@agiverreviga4592]

There are already some VR headsets using microLED displays, Apple is also rumored to use microLED this year for their AR/VR headset. It's definitely not limited to big sizes only.

[@lxXSuddenDeathXxl]

He literally showed smaller devices using MicroLED in the video.

[@BLWard-ht3qw]

Lol, just when I thought 77" were on the large side. Now they're rollin' out 83's and larger like it's nothing, so I guess I can't be too shocked when those reviewing TV's are referring to 65" as small like 32'" used to be.

[@Apollo-Computers]

And here I am not wanting one bigger than 32 inches....

Beautiful! Ready to put mortgage in my life :D

[@sadikkadom9566]

you got to love the mic drop and the end of his videos

[@JorisKeijser]

Being able to split it into 4 separate 44.5" 1080p screens with their own input is pretty cool

[@BlackJesus8463]

You're doing it wrong. The trick is to sit very far away with just the one stream.

[@JorisKeijser]

@@BlackJesus8463 I don't even know how to reply to this lol. Do you not understand my comment?

[@BlackJesus8463]

@@JorisKeijser just kidding lol

[@BenWillock]

I thought Quantum Nanorod was the endgame display tech?

[@BazZerg]

New video suggestion. O would like to see a propper comparison between the new Micro LED and the QD OLED. Also, if QD can enhance OLED, then why not Micro QD LED?

[@meisuci4708]

The comparison should be this 89inch microLED TV vs QD OLED accordingly

[@Norvik_-ug3ge]

Looks like the perfect TV screen. Need to get the sizes and price down to reasonable levels though. Is there a reason they are so big? Is making smaller screens a problem with this tech at the moment? Or is it because it is the only way to recoup the R&D?

[@Erowens98]

Making them smaller is a problem. It's very difficult to make LEDs that small and then place them all accurately into the correct positions without damaging them in the process. The higher pixel density, the harder it is. That's why they're all modular at the moment. If a panel is 4 1080p panels glued together. Then if 1 of the 4 panels has a manufacturing defect, it won't ruin the entire panel, just that one quarter panel module.

[@GAMExLOGIC_]

They could make a smaller 89" version, because they were able to shrink the individual leds. At the moment this is the smallest they can make the leds. Smaller leds will cause more defects and have higher costs to produce.

[@CheddaRob]

Great overview :D

[@FEWGEE1]

Guess I'll skip an OLED and wait for MicroLED to become affordable. Of course, by then the next evolution of screen technology will be upon us...

[@LEMON48]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 you must be very young and patient.

[@FEWGEE1]

@@LEMON48 I wish! I'm the polar opposite of both those things lol

[@boedillard8807]

At that size and price, I'm stunned it isn't an 8K display.

[@JayStein777]

I think true 8k is a long way off.

[@Marshmellow244]

Such a bummer Samsung won't adopt Dolby vision. I would switch in a heartbeat.

[@RPRsChannel]

*_Have you reviewed Samsung's The Wall? I'll have to check your past videos_*

[@samibouhadida5314]

The good news: the immense evolution in screen technology. The bad news: no one of us will own such a TV one day 😥, thus this will be the entry level TV of 2125 😁.

[@jackrichards1703]

Excellent thanks Vincent

[@Ajax-322]

got an ad featuring Vincent on his own video, lol

[@hdtvtest]

Really? Which TV brand?

[@ENPIus]

I can't wait to get one in about 15 or so years

[@QuiteNot]

Not a fair comparison as I found out there is a problem with the 85 inch qn90a, check the owners avforums, some people are saying theirs is very dim and washed out in dark areas in HDR looks night and day difference between hdr and sdr, could be a bug in software but something is definitely wrong. This makes sense as both should be able to put out the same amount of brightness full field and for highlights normally i believe. As both have about 1500-2000 nits peak and about 800 nits full field. Something doesn't add up here....

[@aquaneon8012]

Likely, the microled tv is exceeding 1k nits full screen.

[@Datenschutz_Datenschutz]

2,3k watts of awesomeness edit: only 1,3k watts per hour awesomeness 😅

[@user-jt1jv8vl9r]

Surely the end game for tvs is to present a picture that is indistinguishable from looking through a window.

[@seamon9732]

Bringing this tech down to monitor size might prove... An incredible challenge, and I think that's an understatement.

[@Erowens98]

Might not be that big a deal tbh. If you're willing to make it a 1080p, or at most 1440p panel. Right now, these are basically just a bunch of smaller lower resolution displays glued together anyway. Since they get better yields that way

[@GAMExLOGIC_]

@@Erowens98 a 1080p screen would be a little over 44". That is still to large for a 1080p monitor.

[@ram64man]

They have one of these set to max on lakeside industrial park , it’s ridiculous bright , if anything too bright. I can’t wait till they get 65 and 55 inch models of the micro , but please Samsung support Dolby display on your top two flagships , if Sony can do it with your truly amazing qd-oled, I know the manufacture. Who made it should knock it out of the park

[@brutussmithers3777]

KZbinrs that buy and return TVs to produce content🤣

[@elmalloc]

what about the LG 97"

[@abeachristine5446]

Yeah, but the Price is way too high. It's in Early Stage of Developing and Hard to Manufacture.

[@Brian.M]

What's your best guess on how many years it will be until Micro LED is available for normal consumers?

[@michaelcarson8375]

So when are you reviewing that 89" TV? ;D

[@illogical1421]

If it's the endgame display will that mean the end of TV evolution and innovation, tho?!!

[@user-os9dk9jh1e]

Most of all, it touches how manufacturers (when they want to show that the new technology is cooler) deliberately underestimate the brightness and contrast of another TV in the settings. And everyone is like this, over and over again - WOW!, how cool is this new SuperPuperMicroled)) This cheat, already a hundred years old, and still rolls))

[@pg5797]

Vincent are you sure the Samsung 89" micro LED is 4K? I read somewhere that it was HD only.

[@jogabonito8989]

Which youtuber is he referencing to when he said that they buy and return TVs on a weekly basis? 🤔😬

[@MovieCaveDave]

Hehehehe, I think we all know ‘Doink’ lol

[@Vincewins]

Okay, now my question is how is that TV not blinding you? When I turn my Ipad Pro with MicroLED to max with HDR content in a dark room, my eyes are literary bleeding because it is so bright. The samsung TV has like double the amount of brightness

[@MuhammadKharismawan]

Because the room isn't as dark as how it's shown there.

[@Cxs1a3]

2000 nits is overkill for home users. The major benefit is the indiviidually lit pixels, removing backlight bleed, not the brightness.

[@JB-bo6fe]

Does the MicroLED models still have PWM 120hz flickering when de-judder is turned on? Its just samsung software compatibility issue or 120hz PWM flickering somehow helps with de-judder?

[@brandonlee7382]

Even the TVs are social distancing 🤣

[@DaniousBR]

Micro LED is TV utopia, high brightness, perfect contrast thanks to self emissive pixels, no burn-in, 20bit processing but it is a shame that such a perfect TV won't have Dolby Vision thanks to Samsung stupidity.

[@grandassassin4135]

I’m still waiting for 65 inch model

[@NRubric]

I hope there will be smaller micro LED (55") TVs and (32") monitors somewhere in the near future.

[@ak101farhan]

So what are the advantages of microled over qd oled display ?🤔 when can we hope to buy these for our living rooms at a reasonable price range ?🤔

[@adityaarayan2340]

At 2037 you can buy it in $1000 USD

[@pablosbuickgarage]

What 85”-86” tv do you recommend for using my Xbox one-s ? I primarily watch Netflix and play call of dudy on that console.

[@user-lb4hu1vb9v]

I'm looking forward to seeing their performance in a bright room

[@MisterRhul]

Imagine a Panasonic Micro Led. The future will be amazing.

[@blizzforte284]

Caleb from Digital Trends has seen the QD-OLED and says it's the best display tech he's ever seen. Also is microLED really the endgame when there is QDEL?

[@fullhd5277]

End game of display technology 🥺 I was enjoying it .

[@oMeGa0122]

I always enjoy your content ‼️. But my man it's time to help me lol 🆘 With all these info I'm getting really confused about what to buy. Shall I wait for the new technologies to be available to be purchased or I just buy now? If I'm gonna buy a monitor now I'm between M32Q, M32U and the QN90A. I'm not into small monitors at all, been on 22" 1080p 60Hz for ages. my next monitor is minimum 32". What I don't have access to try is that from gaming perspective, Let's say 32", is it a big difference between 1440p and 4k in resulnion clarity while gaming? And I didn't get the chance to experience the difference between 90hz, 120hz, or 240hz. I know from 30 to 60 is a big difference, hell from 45 to 60 is a big difference usually I cap FPS on 90 even my monitor is 60hz it just feel smoother. From what I've heard from reviews is that above 120 you barely gonna notice or make any better experience unless you are ultra competitive which I'm not, I just play casually all kind of games AAA, FPS, sports... etc, 3 hours a day. For me the price difference between QN90A 50" and M32U is $350 and between the M32U and M32Q is $460, which isn't an issue. But if I'm not gonna get a much difference in experience I would like to put that $350 or $800 in something else. I'm not into that much high FPS. I care more about smoother experience while gaming but if higher means better then yeah I feel lost lol and really cannot take a decision. If I could experience them first hand I would know what to choose but it's all a guesswork right now that's why I'm seeking for some experienced opinions 🙏🏻

[@insertnamehere8723]

I reckon, given the year on year reduction in pixel pitch, and sizes that are available, it will be a reasonable to assume that this may be as affordable as OLED within the decade and maybe 5-6 years earliest if you want to pay a premium even by oled standards. Hopefully QD OLED is as much as the mini LED challenger we hoped.

[@JonPais]

Wrong, it’s a decade away unless you’re a corporate buyer. Show us your data, dude.

[@MisterRhul]

@@JonPais you haven't showed any data too. We are only giving opinions, chill.

[@JonPais]

@@MisterRhul wrong buddy, I read what the analysts and manufacturers have to say in trade papers, just like Vincent does. I don’t just pull numbers out of my crotch.

[@insertnamehere8723]

@@JonPais speculation, pal. Calm down. I'm speculating with a touch of wishful thinking, but I did say realistically a decade is likely. Take the stick out your ass. I'm not an analyst or manufacturer so how would I know short of being a psychic to predict possibly literally anything between now and whenever these become commercially available?

[@Erowens98]

@@JonPais experts are wrong all the time. I wouldn't be so confident. Especially when you haven't analyzed the data yourself. Just read other people's analysis.

[@kingrofty]

MicroLED is the Tesla of the display industry. I absolutely love bright LED TVs , and cannot stand the dull OLED TVs.

[@MonkeyDude1999]

The first time I heard about microled tech etc was by everything Apple pro. He used to talk about it on his channel when nobody knew what it was.

[@keeloraz9452]

In terms of Picture quality, accuracy and brightness, which is superior qd oled or micro led ?

[@firstnamelastname2971]

micro led, for sure.