Sardonicast 83: The Snyder Cut, Paddington 1 & 2

[@vladimirpolusyan]

00:00 - Intro 00:40 - The Snyder Cut (SPOILERS) 52:35 - Paddington (SPOILERS) 1:18:59 - Paddington 2 (SPOILERS) 1:41:04 - Q&A 1:41:12 - Q1: I have a friend that listens to his favourite movies in the car as if they were audiobooks. I thought that was strange, but then I listened to "Naked" on a long drive and actually really enjoyed it. My question is, what movies would work well as audiobooks? 1:43:29 - Q2: What’s the most try-hard performance of all time? Someone who swung for the fences and failed miserably? 1:47:17 - Q3: Since Adam has apparently not seen a lot of movies many consider childhood classics (Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Back to the Future, etc.) in his actual childhood, what are some of the movies you grew up with? 1:51:54 - Q4: Do you think there is snobbery in the cinephile community? What is the best way to curb it? 1:56:07 - Q5: Do you think Synder's impact could actually cheapen the power of the director, considering his auteur-antics (Changing the aspect ratio to 4:3, releasing a cut that is black and white) are just tact-on for no real reason? Since these elements have been used heavily in the advertising of the film, I'm worried that other studios are going to similarly stick on random gimmicks to their movies in post. Films like The Lighthouse or Bait (which actually use the filmmaking techniques of the past to the service of the story) could be totally swamped by random wannabes that are just trying to ape Snyds. Schaffrillas will join the next episode as a guest. His recommendation is Whiplash (2014).

[@MaleTears]

Thank you, Vlad.

[@shineon9715]

Greatly appreciated

[@bucklakelukie]

Snyder cut spoilers start at 4:25

[@dusk6634]

Thanks, you da real one

[@sailorstarchild]

Yeah, Schaffrillas is super cool.

[@idkjordash]

Also the joker saying “We live in a society” doesn’t even make any sense, they’re in a post apocalyptic wasteland. What society?

[@thecinematicmind]

That's a good point.

[@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168]

Given how that line was improvised and didn't end up in the film, I'm wondering if Snyder felt the same as you.

[@ggs27]

@@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168 It was probably marketing because of the meme

[@knowledgeanddefense1054]

Also, the word “honor” should never come out of the Joker’s mouth. This like that one time gag in Arkham Knight where Alfred says “crazy ass ninjas”, minus the self awareness

[@jakegibbard]

For some reason it makes me insanely happy that a KZbinr known as "I Hate Everything" teared up at the ending of Paddington 2 (and rightly so, it's one of my personal favourite endings)

[@randomguy6679]

Makes me happy that Adam really enjoyed both of these movies, really expected him to hate them.

[@219SilverChoc]

That ending has been ruined for me because after watching it, my friend joked about the mother arriving taxidermied.

[@sudevsen]

Alex hardly does Hate videos now

[@ColombianThunder]

@@219SilverChoc LMAOO that should be a sketch

[@JaydevRaol]

👍

[@sethseth2534]

1st predictions before watching: •Everyone’s going to hate justice league, but Adum the most •Everyone’s going to love Paddington 1 & 2

[@TheMrCarina]

And the sky is blue

[@mitchdouglas9844]

"British Knock-off of Pooh" Pardon you sir, Winnie the Pooh is a British-written character, we were ripping off ourselves.

[@mitchellgeorge6031]

Winnie the Pooh is one of the most British books ever written

[@matane2465]

But the real bear was from Canada.

[@Futures_End]

@@matane2465 It's hardly a rip-off of a real bear

[@matane2465]

@@Futures_End Winnie the Pooh was based off of a real bear.

[@Futures_End]

@@matane2465 Yes, but describing a "British Knock-off of Pooh" won't be about the real bear

[@battleupsaber462]

Idk why people are petitioning for another Justice League movie when they should instead be clamoring for Paddington 3 #RestoreThePaddingtonVerse

[@DrawtoonzStudio]

There is another Paddington movie in production, but Paul King’s not going to direct this time.

[@thecinematicmind]

I’m still waiting for Warner Bros to finally restored The Devils to the original version.

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

I'd rather see an Alita: Battle Angel sequel, than this crap.

[@1spidog]

they already are coming out with paddington 3

[@depalapili-pala4859]

@@DrawtoonzStudio aw man that sucks, excited to see what he does next though

[@sori_osori_]

Wow, I didn't know there was a Synder Cut of Paddington series.

[@simonwickwire9230]

"save marmalade" "WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME"

[@MisterDriskul]

Paddington mauls a bunch of people while yodeling noises start to play.

[@edward4840]

I want Synder to make director's cuts of films he didn't make

[@videogamenostalgia]

Yeah it's all desaturated and it's 6 hours long and Paddington says the C word in front of a greenscreen at the end.

[@duskplains1235]

I didn’t expect the Paddington series to be this good. They quickly became some of my favourite movies.

[@mabusestestament]

I thought they were okay but I don't understand why they are so enormously beloved, it's probably me 🙂

[@isaiahwilliams2642]

Paddington 2 was snubbed so hard! I still lose sleep over it losing the 420 Award for best Independent movie!

[@waywardlaser]

Thank you Alex, I have fallen in love with the Paddington movies. You don't get live action family films that are THIS GOOD anymore. They're real treasures.

[@0axel078]

Adum: Likes Martyrs and Saw Also Adum: Grossed out by Paddington earwax gag. That's too far.

[@chonchjohnch]

It’s the jay bauman effect

[@s0Shi]

Same though, the earwax bit was just nasty 🤢 not quite the same as gore

[@nihil_holly]

Paddington 2 was the first movie to ever make me cry

[@samueloconnor3972]

I don’t usually comment. I just wanted to say that I enjoy the podcast and like hearing the different opinions on movies you guys have. It’s crazy to think that it’s already been going for 3 years

[@shinobipizza]

Batman saying "-I will fucking kill you, and I'll do it slow" made me laugh my ass off.

[@shinobipizza]

@Joseph Ellis funny thing is that I actually really enjoyed Ben Affleck's Batman. It's just that the scripts are so fricking terrible. Written properly, he would have been an excellent Dark Knight Returns Batman.

[@Everik-ct6pg]

He didn't swear in the brazilian dub for some reason, which I find weird because cyborg does earlier in the movie, and uses the same swear word.

[@luiginastro8831]

Edgy Batman. Thanks, Zack, I hate it.

[@Everik-ct6pg]

@@luiginastro8831 at least he's not All Star batman levels of bad. He kinda reminds me of the Batman from Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth, which I think is kind of a parody of the super serious dark 80's graphic novels.

[@greasycheese9050]

We wanted DKR Batman but they gave us All-Star Batman. You got the wrong Frank Miller story guys!

[@Fran-mg1wq]

Paddigton 2 is a Masterpiece, Hugh Grant should have gotten nominated for an Oscar

[@isaiahwilliams2642]

Paddington 2 should've gotten ALL the Oscars.

[@florencec1707]

One of my favourite parts of the podcast is Adum gets mad about something and the other boys laugh while he rants. It happens so much lol

[@chilispillin]

He’s me :(

[@persolus689]

jared leto said in an interview that HE was the one who pushed for the society line to be included

[@lolforlife2487]

HE?

[@persolus689]

@@lolforlife2487 HE.

[@lolforlife2487]

@@persolus689 aaw thanks that clears things up

[@pats3212]

Not surprising, he was also the one who started the used condoms and dead rats story

[@roydekock656]

I misread HE as “IHE” 😂😂

[@christianmartinez774]

Awww yeah, two hours of goodness about a the Snyder Cut and Paddington

[@luisbarajas5202]

adams comparison of justice league to a pride parade 22:10 was fucking hilarious and so on point. not only did they get validation for being dc fans, many people got validation for being zach snyder dc fans even more so.

[@chilispillin]

We’re happy for them and they’re blind support for an ayn rand libertarian. I think other than guardians of ga owl whatever the fuck this movie is definitely his best 😬

[@videogamenostalgia]

DC/Zach Snyder fans aren't owed validation lol. Blindly and pathetically defending some really awful movies just because you like the comic book characters who appear in them is *not* something that deserves validation like being LGBT+ does, and getting upset that critics disliked some movies you liked because you have terrible taste is *not* any kind of proxy to the kind of prejudice and oppression faced by LGBT+ individuals .

[@chilispillin]

@@videogamenostalgia this is why we love adum I made the same exact comparison way before this episode came out only instead of on a podcast it was just in front of my gf

[@chonchjohnch]

Considering the level of ridicule we experienced, it’s gratifying

[@bw-xv2rz]

Rare audio of Jesus, a leprechaun, and a Scosese cultist talking about the best thing ever made (the Paddington franchise)

[@Randomshit2727]

Ok yms is Jesus but who is the other 2

[@Xen8008]

The Paddington films have Unironically brought me more Joy than any DC Film (Barring Joker) In the past half decade.

[@mabusestestament]

Joke's on you, The Paddington films secretly *are* DC films 😘

[@AimForMyHead81]

Why would joker bring you joy?

[@SonicHaXD]

Schaffrillas is gonna be on the next episode!!!! That's awesome and I can't wait XD

[@mabusestestament]

Who is Schaffrillas?

[@cringeivore3769]

@@mabusestestament Schaffrillas Productions is a guy who made youtube poops and talks about films more recently

[@SloppyJoe1100]

Nice pfp

[@mabusestestament]

@Cringeivore KZbin poops?

[@miguelsmoviereviews1580]

I recently watched Whiplash so that's perfect fucking timing right there

[@7thRoseHalo]

Oh my God, a podcast of my favorite KZbinrs?! How am I just finding this?!

[@charizardmaster13]

Paddington 2 was one of the greatest cinematic surprises ive ever experienced. Went in expecting to hate it and left with the biggest smile on my face

[@MarvloNott]

Came for the Synder Cut, stayed for Paddington.

[@richwrites5683]

I unironically liked Paddington more than most of this years best picture nominees

[@davidjohnson2415]

Probably holds true for most years

[@janevivian24]

OH SHIT CAMEO

[@eugeneimbangyorteza]

Especially the 2018 (2019 awards) nominees with Green Book Black Panther and fake Queen biography

[@aaronshouting588]

Minari, though....

[@richwrites5683]

@@janevivian24 What is this, a crossover episode?

[@mainchannel1566]

The Joker scene was shot in Zach Snyder's backyard

[@Everik-ct6pg]

Correction: he wanted to shoot it in his backyard, but they gave him a sound studio with a green screen. To be honest, idk which one would've been better.

[@lilmovieperp3599]

The cig falling before lighting the fire in the Usual Suspect was filmed in Bryan Singers backyard. There may have been some “other stuff” filmed as well.

[@videogamenostalgia]

Zach Snyder is a 12 year old. That scene only exists because he wanted to do a Batman and Joker scene for the sake of it; the scene makes no sense, Affleck and Leto weren’t even in the same room and Snyder directed it over Zoom, so it’s just a terrible piece of drama lol.

[@thecatmangaming5503]

Love Ben Wishaw's performance as Paddington! Very soothing and pleasant

[@ColombianThunder]

The dude probably has one of the best narrative voices ever

[@thecatmangaming5503]

@@ColombianThunder Oh fully agree

[@ajcaraballo95]

Why is this episode of Sardonicast only 2 hours long? It should be 4 hours long! lol

[@lilmovieperp3599]

joss whedon was called in to slim it down.

[@TooCooFoYou]

Needs more slo-mo sequences and ancient lamentations.

[@callmeej8399]

I want the 4 hour cut of Spider-Man 3 I need more “give me rent”

[@videogamenostalgia]

It's exactly the same movie but there's an extra 1.5hr subplot where the landlord takes Peter Parker to court over rent payments.

[@UnCreativeDeconstructionism]

*An italian, a Brit, and a Canadian walk into a movie theater..*

[@brianajaxwintor6023]

I thought Ralph was Jewish.

[@UnCreativeDeconstructionism]

@@brianajaxwintor6023 cuz of his hair?? Lmaoo

[@brianajaxwintor6023]

@@UnCreativeDeconstructionism I guess it was just subconscious.

[@end999100]

..in Aurora (Colorado), for the midnight screening of The Dark Knight Rises (2012)

[@funkyfranx]

Is he Italian, or is he Italian in the way that Americans claim to be a when they’ve got an ancestor from five generations ago from there?

[@somedude2384]

I didn't care for the new cut of Justice League because it didn't have Turkish Airlines.

[@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r]

Me as I reached the end to the Snyder Cut: Alright, movie’s about to end... I can get some sleep now. *Epilogue comes up* Me: Jesus Christ there’s MORE?

[@S1nwar]

now adum gets tricked into watching the original justice league because to him it sounds like neil breen level at this point

[@chilispillin]

I want him to watch the original so bad so he can fully embrace his hypothesis of the Snyder cut being a fucking scaaaam

[@lilmovieperp3599]

he isn't getting tricked tho...

[@chilispillin]

Ralph and Alex are too naive about this whole situation somehow even though they’ve been following it more than adum to give him any real solid advice on how to get more informed on this mess

[@luiginastro8831]

Breen's movies are better

[@chilispillin]

@@luiginastro8831 I think you mean killer bean bro

[@nihil_holly]

The Flash played by Nathan Fielder is something I never knew I needed.

[@lilmovieperp3599]

cyborg giving the woman some cash is the most heroic thing someone's done in the dceu.

[@Sergio-bh7cu]

Someone hasn't seen Shazam or Wonder Woman

[@lilmovieperp3599]

@@Sergio-bh7cu or they don't remember. refresh?

[@maxmustermann6612]

Man, I really love these podcasts!

[@MaleTears]

Finally. A cut for true kings.

[@aliendrone]

When everybody is GIMME THE SNYDER CUT ! Adam is GIMME THE WHEDON CUT !

[@gefelice]

When someone asks me about my favorite movies I always recommend Paddington. Glad you guys watched them.

[@mexicounbloger]

I really loved the Snyder cut but, I must admit I was way more excited when I saw Paddington in the thumbnail!

[@Jaydenbraddock42]

In 8th grade, when I was in math class, I listened to the audio of “Antz” everyday while the teacher taught class. No regrets.

[@jandcstopmotion7774]

Respect

[@AimForMyHead81]

That movie gave me nightmares

[@alex7634]

why? why didn't you listen to different movies?

[@jandcstopmotion7774]

@@alex7634 is there a better movie than Antz?

[@alex7634]

@@jandcstopmotion7774 There are more movies than Antz. You do you

[@UncleHyena]

I remember my mom and I watched Joker the previous day and then watched Paddington 2, we went from two cynics discussing ‘society’ to a giddy kid and mom enjoying a delightful film for what it was, it was incredibly refreshing. Not that Joker wasn’t good in its own right though

[@dacienfelice2993]

They're having Schafrillas on the podcast, awesome! I was really hoping to see him join the Sardoniverse!

[@apollo1493]

“Is there snobbery in the film community” Anyone on Letterboxd: cough cough Tentin Quarantino cough

[@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168]

For a second I thought you were referring to the user Tentin Quarantino. He's definitely a snob. And he hates Tarantino ironically.

[@apollo1493]

@@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168 Lol yeah. His original username according to the url was "Follow the blind". I don't think you could be more condescending if you tried.

[@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168]

@@apollo1493 I don't remember that being his username. He changed it a whole bunch of times. One time it was Ryan, another time it was Egg Macguffin.

[@understandingart9961]

@@apollo1493 He also said that Hans Zimmer should be thrown into jail like wtf , for a soundtrack 😂

[@ruaricool]

You should read his insane Midsommar review.

[@criticclips1560]

Snyder ruined batman, superman, the death of superman, dark knight returns, the death of robin, injustice can't believe WB gave him the keys to DC properties even though they knew his thoughts on superheroes and how he hates them.

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

Don't forget Lex Luthor & Wonder Woman

[@chilispillin]

Nah go off king. I love that he frames all these characters in this super powerful, important slow motion, and then doesn’t bother giving them any real character in a four hour cut he had control over. He’s been making movies for over a decade 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@chilispillin]

@@NeverSaySandwich1 lmao bet, my cop ass biological father maybe

[@MegaRay220]

This pairing of movies would definitely make some people on the internet angry and I couldn’t be happier

[@mabusestestament]

Why would people be angry? It makes total sense, they're all movies about superheroes 🍻

[@Dobcool]

I listen to most KZbin videos as podcasts even though they aren't ones

[@christophermartinez4104]

It always feels weird to hear their thoughts on movies like zsjl because I love superhero films even though I know that there are so much better films out there, more artsy films that I love as well. But I'm glad that Alex seems to enjoy it cause sometimes it feels weird when it feels like I enjoy a film that plenty of people seem to not like but I guess I find more things to enjoy in them than others

[@Amory-wd3ws]

I don’t think it’s weird to like this movie, lots of people liked it.

[@soapbiter36577]

Last episode ralph gave a really refreshing optimistic take on why it shouldn't be frowned upon to like superhero movies

[@florencec1707]

“Watching Entourage on the highway” has to be one of the worst ways to die possible lol

[@stevehefferan56709]

darkseid said "i forgor💀"

[@thugkermit9999]

It’s interesting that Ralph will use some of the points Adam makes later in his review and discussion

[@ColombianThunder]

I mean that's not a bad thing if he completely agrees with him

[@CaecusYT]

@@ColombianThunder No you don't understand!! If he doesn't make 100% original points all the time he's a sham!!!!

[@lolforlife2487]

Ralph directly quoted adum in his joker review so....

[@instigatingapostle]

As the words of Scott "As a Cinephile, and- sorry wrong kind of phile- well one of those. I think I know independent film and Paddington 2 is an independent film"

[@amsaludereje7554]

Petition to make Adam do his next episode opening monolog like the kanye rant on gaga. "I LIKE SOME OF THE GAGA SONGS BUT WTF DOES SHE KNOW ABOUT SARDONICAST"

[@mitchellgeorge6031]

The Snyder cut is one of the few instances in which splitting it into multiple parts would actually be justified.

[@AimForMyHead81]

It is though

[@mabusestestament]

Works fine as a four hour behemoth 👍

[@videogamenostalgia]

Not really. There is so much filler and the core story is pretty lightweight (and filled with plot holes). He should just be a decent filmmaker and tell a coherent story in a normal timeframe, like everyone else.

[@whateveryaw8109]

@@videogamenostalgia o gawd... look it’s not for u.. ppl really love this movie.. you probably “too smart “ to like this movie.

[@devilmaycrysarockingdontcome]

@@whateveryaw8109 "people love this movie" "it is not for you" nice

[@mlufii]

I want to watch a 4 hours Colored cut of Lover

[@sethseth2534]

#ReleaseTheSepeCut

[@sparkfilms558]

#ReleaseTheSepeCut

[@mackthehackfraud5965]

#ReleaseTheSepeCut

[@hagenseah4306]

#ReleaseTheSepeCut

[@jay4.166]

#releasetheSepeCut

[@rileyspeck4918]

The thing about cyborg shooting the missile at Superman was set up by the mother box controlled A.I who was “scared” of Superman coming back to life. (They said that earlier before they revived him.) And cyborg was made from the mother box so I think it was implying that the mother box instinctively shot the missile at Superman. Still stupid, but it does have an explanation.

[@rileyspeck4918]

@@greasycheese9050 I literally said that it was still stupid, I don’t think the movie is a fucking ten out of ten it’s not a good movie I was just correcting a mistake, ass hole. Don’t Wright me off as a fanboy just because I was providing them with information they lacked.

[@rileyspeck4918]

@@greasycheese9050 When tf did I say he Zack Snyder was smart? Lmao, most of his movies are fucking awful. Your argument makes no sense. I’m allowed to fucking provide information that the sards gave unfair Criticism, or at least it’s unfair with the context they had, I’m sure you could nitpick something else about the scene. A fanboy would get mad at them calling the movie bad, I don’t give a flying fuck and even if I cared at all I’m allowed to enjoy things without being criticized for it so fuck off.

[@rileyspeck4918]

@@greasycheese9050 exacly there was no point in arguing

[@Narwhallimited]

I love sardonicast but I have never really been this hyped for a next episode until now I am big schaffrillas and whiplash is my favourite film thank you Adam Alex Ralph and schaffrillas for recommending the film you’ve made my day

[@rafaelbrandao4059]

Surprised Adum didn't remember The Fanatic for most try-hard. There's an Adum and Pals of it and everything.

[@demian5631]

You dare insult the greatest performance in all of recorded history? The Arrogance!

[@RazorusR3X777]

I can't wait for the Justice League 2 scene where Mera starts screaming racial slurs and throughing wine bottles at Aquaman's face, and then Aquaman gets really, really drunk and punches her in the face.

[@bigsmellbad1187]

Not snydie cut being above Barry Lyndon on the IMDB top 250 🙈 nobody tell Ralph

[@comradejosephstalinoftheus8698]

@big smell bad I just looked at the list after seeing your comment and WHAT? The Snyder Cut is above In the Mood for Love and The 400 Blows, I don't understand that list at all.

[@IveGotToast]

@@comradejosephstalinoftheus8698 IMDB is for film bros. Very few foreign films or films before the 80s make the top 250. It's mostly superhero shit and Tarantino.

[@adama.7735]

@@comradejosephstalinoftheus8698 It’s going to be out of the top 250 eventually. A lot of new movies get into the top 250 on IMDb, only to drop out as more votes come in.

[@luiginastro8831]

It's just the way the algorithm they use works. A lot of DC fans have rated it a 10/10 so it got into the Top 250. Votes go down with time so pretty soon it's gonna be out. And there's tons of great movies on that list, just because there's a few superhero movies and Tarantino doesn't mean it's useless. Lots of old movies too. I just don't like to see people generalize.

[@JorgeGomez-hx5uu]

Nice Escape from New York pfp

[@ChaosTheoryDrozz]

I didn't watch the original and I still hated the Snyder Cut. And yes, I am talking about the Snyder Cut of Paddington.

[@ChaosTheoryDrozz]

And I even watched it in black and white (the intended experience and does make it slightly better because the effects probably look like shit otherwise) and it was still awful

[@FlippySuper]

What a wild combination of topics lol

[@FrenchFries2]

Please talk about the 2004 movie The Spongebob Squarepants movie, I pray to the Sardonicast gods for this to happen every night, my religion is called Sardonicult if you're interested in knowing.

[@leonkuwata4510]

Where do i join?

[@FrenchFries2]

@@leonkuwata4510 just support the cause of getting the amazing movie The Spongebob squarepants movie onto Sardonicast and then you're a member of Sardonicult after that, all hail the three Madagascar fans.

[@worlds1ep3enthusiast92]

I'll give my life to have The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie (2004) on Sardonicast.

[@matane2465]

Release the Paul Feig cut of Ghostbusters. The world needs to see the hours of improv they shot.

[@tofutoph]

And all the dancing. To quote Mr. Plinkett: “Stop dancing!!”

[@dajokahbaby1506]

At first “We live in a society” was purely just to mock the Joker or at least the fans who took what he said in TDK as gospel, but it became unironic a while back.

[@mugiwara_no_ruffy5764]

Ah yes, my favorite podcast: Sardonicast 2

[@Henez89]

YMS has to watch Josstice League. It's a fascinating film now, because you can see what changed and why. Both cuts suck but are interesting to study.

[@Thegr8MC]

Both Paddington movies were incredible. When I first saw them I was (understandably) expecting a bunch of Smurfs/Alvin/Trolls type pop culture and toilet humor. But I was pleasantly surprised by how timeless and whimsical the humor and charm was. I'm also glad you three enjoyed it. I was expecting all of you to hate it given how overly cynical you all have been towards children's movies in past reviews. I would love to see more kids movies like this, with a lot of heart, whimsy and actual effort put into impressive looking shots and story elements rather then overusing dated pop culture references, trendy music and fart jokes. Sadly, these movies don't always do as well at the box office (Fantastic Mr. Fox is another example) so I was shocked both Paddingtons actually made several times it's budget.

[@florpfacejinglefribbins1984]

They probably correct this later in the episode but I wanna point out the actor who was originally gonna play Paddington was actually Colin Firth, not Hugh Grant

[@schmebulockjizz]

Its gonna be amazing when Adum goes into watching the Whedon cut having heard all this these things just to find out that its an actual better and more enjoyable film than that of Snyder's 😂

[@TheMoireMediaCollective]

That's a joke, right?

[@schmebulockjizz]

@@TheMoireMediaCollective sadly no

[@patriciogonzalez1898]

I'm pretty sure Jared Leto added "we live in a society" himself.

[@videogamenostalgia]

I think the whole "Jared Leto ad-libbed we live in a society" thing is marketing bullshit, like Zach Snyder claiming he never saw the theatrical cut. They wanted the meme in the trailers to get viral media attention.

[@swag858]

Would like to mention that Justice League was actually shot in 4:3 to fill up an IMAX screen, it wasn't without purpose and undoubtedly would've been cropped for a theatrical release, but given that this was Snyder's untouched vision, he released it as is rather than cropping it.

[@floppydysk]

So he designed his film to be on an imax screen while also dividing it into 8 parts to be better enjoyed at home through streaming? That was his untouched vision, to handicap the viewing experience for both viewing platforms? Sounds like some coping.

[@swag858]

@@floppydysk The film was shot in 4:3 for IMAX theaters.

[@swag858]

@@floppydysk Obviously the 8 part thing was after the fact, but the film would've been cropped for a theatrical release while maintaining the 4:3 ratio in IMAX theaters.

[@eltonwebb5530]

I wanna let Adam know that I saw the Snyder cut without having seen the original theatrical cut

[@degau558]

What are you talking about!? HE’S THE ONLY PERSON WHO HAS EXPERIENCED THAT WAY!

[@KentzHodiono]

Same here. Heard how bad the Joss Wheadon version so I avoided that like the plague.

[@therobotchickenMLP]

New theory: Zack Snyder created covid to have an excuse to finish his cut.

[@AstileDohertyProductions]

To quote Count Dooku, I've been looking forward this

[@mathemachickenmadge2963]

@Joseph Ellis Thanks Joseph

[@IveGotToast]

Oh I dont think so

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

"This is were the fun begins"

[@dylanslemp4069]

Another great episode! Can't wait for the next one with Schaffrillas!

[@michaelmoratto]

Uh, excuse me adam, rolling a joint with one arm is WAY cooler than justice league

[@humphreyward5637]

i can’t wait to be the guest on the next SARDONICAST !!!

[@Seank7]

15:18 this laugh sounds hilarious for some reason I'm sorry Ralph

[@chiefgarvey11]

Snyder Cut and Paddington. This is what Marty meant when he was talking about Cinema.

[@RickLilShore]

'The Man From Earth' would work as an audiobook

[@andreifilip6364]

I have JUST realised waching this now, after seeing Adam's thoughts on it and Ralph's and EVERYTHING, that I actually am in the same position as Adam.. I've been so exposed to these bois thoughts as well as everything else regarding Justice League that I completely forgot I never actually saw it... That's how much I'm invested in the DCU..

[@sleepingsheriff]

Don't worry Adum. I got the "he could watch Crash" joke.

[@alexthecritical8800]

Richard Curtis seems like hed be a good fit to help write a 3rd Paddington movie. Along with the writers from 2 of course.

[@latetothegame5557]

Interesting to note, Zack Snyder has tried for years to produce a movie of Ayn Rand's "The Fountainhead", and there are some vague similarities between the mistrust of Superman by the weaker mortals in BvS. So either the conservatives who like Zack Snyder know about that (though Armand White or any of his ilk give me the impression they're not quite literate in the background of filmmakers), or they just get the impression from his other choices of movies to direct, i.e. 300 (originally written by Frank Miller as an Islamophobic allegory), or Watchmen which was written by Alan Moore as a deconstruction of superheroes by portraying them as objectivists. For both of those adaptations (and I'm mostly just paraphrasing from Moviebob here (the liberal equivalent to Armand White)), they are very direct adaptations without much understanding of the subtext behind the stories, or even possibly a misinterpretation of the messages. The whole morally grey superhero thing kind of carries over into his DC movies, which is why he drew heavily from the dystopian "The Dark Knight Returns" for BvS. Even Adam said in his Sucker Punch review that it seems like Zack is much better when he's adapting someone else's story, and the two previously mentioned were based on mostly self-contained story arcs of their respective comic series. Man of Steel was basically an original script written by Zack and David S. Goyer (the latter also seen as kind of a hack), and being the director Zack did have some influence on the script for subsequent films (written by Goyer and the Chris Terrio (the latter of whom wrote Rise of Skywalker)).

[@athenajaxon2397]

I'm kinda mad they didn't let him use John Stewart instead of Martian Manhunter I would've liked to see who he would've cast

[@CrimeFighterFrog]

The Snyder Cut pride parade comparison had me in tears lmaooooo

[@thetoothbrushfromnisemonog8340]

12:02 I think Adam would be surprised how many people say that shit non-ironically.

[@funkyfranx]

Alex calling Come Fly with Me terrible, my respect for him 📉📉

[@lolforlife2487]

It's a really racist show

[@willh5901]

1:07:25

[@willh5901]

I wouldn’t call it racist tbh

[@videogamenostalgia]

​@@willh5901 Half the characters are just stereotypes of black people, asians, gay people etc..Matt Lucas straight-up said a lot of their stuff from that time period was bigoted and they'd never do something like it now.

[@dacienfelice2993]

I have never been so excited for a Sardonicast!

[@vjara94]

I have to flashforward because for some reason I wasn't convinced enough to watch Padington, but now I am, I was dubious for so long

[@bernielopez7429]

After the epic Aquaman (2018) I was completely baffled as to why Mera suddenly had a terrible british accent in this movie

[@chellejohnson9789]

The Soviet union also had a Winnie the Pooh series. It was quite enjoyable

[@spudreviewsmedia]

Paddington 2 is the 7th best film of all time

[@luiginastro8831]

Wrong! It's the 1st.

[@spudreviewsmedia]

@@luiginastro8831 Trueeeeee

[@Everik-ct6pg]

They should have made a movie solely to bring back superman, then make a second Superman movie and call it “Man of Tomorrow”. He uses the black suit throughout the entire movie until the end, where he opens his coat and shirt to reveal the classic suit, like in justice league. Then make the solo movies for other characters, THEN release Justice League. But for what we got, I really liked the Snyder Cut. Yeah, it's not a great movie, but I still enjoy it due to the emotional moments and character development.

[@Fredomato]

Emotional moments? Like the shot with an empty seat where Cyborg's science dad should have been, but he was too busy to make it to the game? It's like something out of a parody.

[@Everik-ct6pg]

@@Fredomato I mean the things like the flash time travel scene, and yeah, that moment with cyborg's dad too. Just because it's cliche doesn't mean it doesn't work as a moment. Also, Martian Manhunter's appearance made my dad really happy, who was watching the movie with me. He's a big fan of DC, and seeing him freak out with pure excitement when John showed up made me happy too.

[@crazysnas181]

Me and Adum had the pure Snyder Cut experience. TBF, I didn't even watch the other DC movies

[@floraposteschild4184]

Me, neither. I figure if this is the best one, and as good as it's ever going to get (with years of hindsight and tens of millions more dollars), why not watch just this one? And it was okay -- didn't make me want to see more, though.

[@crazysnas181]

@@floraposteschild4184 I enjoyed it a lot still. But man, there really needs to be a cut of this cut that cuts out all the fat. You could end with that scene of Superman ripping open his shirt and I could say "That was a good enough ending"

[@mytime991]

I had better experience in anime, hip hop, even football and basketball Twitter than in Cinema Twitter. Some people are really snobby there and sometimes you get discouraged to give your opinion on a film. For some reason, you can't like super movies and also like other films like indie or arthouse films without get one or the other getting pissed.

[@dylanmcartoonell1536]

Well, hearing what the next episode's gonna be is as good a reason as any to finally watch Whiplash.

[@idawg7332]

Regarding what they said around 35:30 I'm someone who loves both indie/arthouse movies and Snyder's work. My favorite movies from 2016 were Nocturnal animals, the witch, the lobster, la la land, arrival and bvs ultimate cut. My favorite movies that I've seen so far this year are the snyder cut, Judas and the Black Messiah and Another Round. I like Snyder' because of the tone and style of his movies. I like how seriously he takes these characters as opposed to marvel where everything is portrayed as a joke. I like how his characters have real struggles while also being portrayed as larger than life gods. The dialog for the most part doesn't really both me, I mean its not like tarantino level dialog but I don't think its horrible. Also I personally feel that his dc movies do have several interesting thing going on thematically that many seem to ignore. Most of all I like how a director with a unique tone/style is able to work on major superhero movies, it makes them stand out in a way . His dc movies are my favorite things that he's done but I also think that 300, dawn of the dead and legend of the guardians are solid entertainment and watchmen of course is amazing. Are his movies perfect, of course not but they are way more interesting and for me entertaining/emotional than most of the blockbusters hollywood puts out these days

[@athenajaxon2397]

I love all of those movies too! I agree with you 100% I also just like how powerful the characters feel the Marvel characters never really feel powerful to me