Mankey Only - Pokemon Yellow - The angriest Pokemon!

Rules:
1. Only my starter in battle
2. No items in battle: healing, restore, x-items, pokeflute, revives (Pokeballs and Pokedolls allowed)
3. No glitches* or exploits (the badge boost glitch and the Marowak skip are allowed)
4. No TM32-Double-Team before lvl:100
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[@rc4780]

I’ve always felt like the Elite 4 were meant to be experts in two types that went well together. Lorelei as an Ice/Water expert; Bruno as a Fighting/Rock expert; Agatha as a Ghost/Poison expert; Lance as a Dragon/Flying expert. This would set them apart from Gym leaders, who had only trained in one type, whereas the Elite four had actually mastered two types.

[@FernandoRafaelNogueiraReis]

This is very insightful, thank you for sharing your thoughts!

[@anlev11]

Yeah, i also always had the same idea!

[@recarras]

That would Also make the champion some Sense. Because he Is the only one that achieves mastery on More types.

[@Raiga345]

Wow that actually makes a lot of sense. I always wondered why bruno didnt have a primeape or why agetha chose an arbok

[@IIICRYSTALMETHODIII]

@@Raiga345 I always wondered why they even bothered making Agatha a Ghost-type specialist when there's literally only one fully evolved Ghost-type in Gen 1 lol. Same with Lance and Dragon-types.

[@hikerchris7164]

If you want to use Primeape in a versus, you could put it up against Persian. In gen one, they are version exclusives with one another You could also do this with Vileplume and Vicreebel, as well as Arbok and Sandslash

[@BFMMC]

Gen exclusives versus would be nice!

[@CoffeeFlavoredMilk]

Primeape vs Persian is my personal choice too yeah.

[@poploah4405]

I'd say arbok v weezing would be better

[@mickgorro]

@@poploah4405 "Who is the better rocket?"

[@remydirt3158]

Persian stab slash in gen 1 is op

[@riotd.r.8363]

I can imagine Mankey frantically moving and scratching himself to build up static and launch a Thunderbolt. Best I can think of.

[@bvd_vlvd]

People already mentioned, but Persian is definitely the go-to mon for Primeape to face off. I'd love to see all version exclusive Vs. videos!

[@lucarizard]

Oh and the AI on Loreleis Dewgong in Yellow was altered to this strange way to prevent a softlock - in R/B you could force a never ending battle with the player using rage and her spaming Rest.

[@sirjashugan0]

Primape should be facing Polywrath as they are the two fighting pokemon left out by Bruno. Which is a shame as his team would have been way better if he stuck to his type.

[@SordoBjorn]

Is it weird that, because of the onix i guess, I consider Bruno to be Brock 2.0? I've never really thought of him as a fighting type first for some reason... to give some context; yellow was my first game, then blue, and gen 2 crystal first...i'm weird like that. But this means that I've grown up respecting early fighting type -> mankey is my no1 addition to a party, followed by a couple nido's and definetly a geodude at mt moon (and wherever you can get one in gen 2 again) because in yellow misty doesn't affect your party choice at all, and all the poison types that rando trainers have really do encourage using dig/earthquake. that and my memory of hitmonlee in crystal -> when you linked games using the gb colours you could fight the last hall of fame composition of the other person once a day in pallet or viridian-> my sister had this team with both a Lugia and a Mew (and others but these two are forever engraved in my memory) and i remember that (shiny) hitmonlee High jump kick-ing the s* out of both of them (i did have suicune as backup, also that playthrough gave me a (shiny) pichu from the day care egg... by the time of those fights it was a pikachu with 'zap cannon' and, of course, a golem) That sorta makes me giovanni 2.0 (or bruno 2.0?, since i like both fighting and rock/ground) P.s.: sorry about the length, i just got hit by a stream of childhood memories...

[@autobotstarscream765]

@@SordoBjorn He looks like Flint, Brock's dad who went out to get milk.

[@sirjashugan0]

@@autobotstarscream765 This is make so much sense and explain why Bruno has got 2 Onix. Bruno Onixes are the parents of Brock's and Bruno is indeed Flint 🤯🤯

[@rjante2236]

His team would have still been total ass, but that's not his fault

[@matttypes2695]

After all these years, submission has never been buffed. It could easily be made the “fighting type” double-edge or brave bird with 100% accuracy and 120 base power.

[@tomfagan8505]

Keep the 80 power & accuracy, But imagine if it had a 25-50% chance to put the target to sleep, Fits the theme & gives it a niche use

[@tomfagan8505]

@@JM-tj5qm I don’t think every move should be balanced around competitive use

[@togakhan1274]

I mean they are never going to make a move better than Close Combat for fighters so all fighting moves will always live in it's shadow.

[@autobotstarscream765]

@@tomfagan8505 I'm thinking 100/50% (Dynamic Punch but Sleep and not a Punch for Iron Fist) on a No Guard Pokémon.

[@richardsylvester4518]

I think Primeape should go up against Poliwrath, or maybe Machoke or Machamp. Definitely keep it within the fighting pokemon.

[@Frikiman_H]

Yeah, definitely Primeape vs Poliwrath. The Chuck special.

[@johncalabro8710]

I agree with the Machock

[@wiseguise5960]

I was thinking Machoke/Machamp as well.

[@InsanityForce]

Poliwrath's Amnesia, water, ice and psychic moves puts it in a weird class of its own.

[@dk2853]

Poliwrath would be great! They have comparable stats, with Primeape having 60 special, and Poliwrath 70. Primeape has more speed and attack, and Poliwrath has more defense and hp. Though Poliwrath is said to be the best fighting type in the game, it would be a cool to see a head to head.

[@mrdewarion]

Lift key? Door key? Mystery key? To hell with that. Get ready for the hyper masculin man-key! Also comes with complimentary girlfriend.

[@MrEnte3000]

Lorelei's Dewgong in Yellow behaves like that to prevent a possible Softlock that exists in Red and Blue.

[@bigkirbyhj666]

What happens?

[@MrEnte3000]

@@bigkirbyhj666 You need a Pokémon that is weak against Psychic type moves that knows the move Rage. Use Rage against Dewgong and because of the way the move works in Gen. 1, you will now be locked into Rage. Dewgong on the other Hand will spam Rest, constantly healing itself, because the AI think the move is super effective, as it is Psychic type. Opponents Pokémon have infinite PP, while Rage only depletes a single PP once when initially used. Which means, if Rage only does a little bit of damage, the battle will go on indefinetely. (The effect of Rage increasing in power only occurs if the Pokémon using it is taking damage from an attack.)

[@garrettfleury8516]

We should as a community help get you and Jrose to team up on a Pokémon challenge. An Idea like a team nuzlocke or something would be an awesome video to watch. Maybe get MDB and FlygonHG in too. It would be bigger than the MCU

[@mickgorro]

Maybe Bard Breaker too, while we're at it. And ChaoticMeatball. MandJTV, Pokemen7, Purplecliff, Pokemon Challenges... SmallAnt... EVERY POKETUBER. Imagine that :). Screw the MCU, give us the POKETUBE Connected Universe :). I might suggest Creepy too, except his content is in Italian, not sure a video in English would fit his channels..

[@n.henzler50]

Get a bunch of them together for a nuzlocke where control of the game rotates to a different player every few minutes. The participants are not allowed to communicate during, but can watch and record commentary when it's not their turn (for the sake of content)

[@Klancer2]

Battle Royale nuzlocke run competition.

[@seanhearn9616]

No j rose and bread suck. Scott is way better

[@garrettfleury8516]

@@mickgorro let’s dip into vgc to and grab wolfey and other top world players. Poke tubers vs. world champs in a nuzlocke race. Something wild like that. That would be a spectacle!

[@Medabee8]

It's a shame that Karate Chop isn't a fighting move in gen 1. At least it will get critical hits all the time, I think.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Well 255/256

[@kobycosper1482]

I just recently discovered your channel, and my only disappointment is that I didn't discover you sooner. I love the energy you put into your content, and your videos are ones that I could watch all day! Please keep up all of the great work, and would love to see some later generations gameplay!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Glad you’re enjoying!

[@remydirt3158]

Jrose and scott are my favorite poke tubers I do enjoy mdb too!

[@nautgamingnautgaming9949]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Bruno actually became an ELITE FOUR member today Agatha chose to be a channeler today Never thought I would be excited Bruno fighting for his job

[@VVeremoose]

@@nautgamingnautgaming9949 Bruno "fighting" for his job ISWYDT

[@nautgamingnautgaming9949]

@@VVeremoose I didn't realize that was a terrible pun my bad lol

[@dragonmaxim1154]

Pretty amgry. played with him last time during the early game of pokemon yellow to get through brock. yeah. this thing is okay but fragile like glass

[@HomeCookinMTG]

I always box it after Brock, usually I’m nuzlocking, so I actually prefer to catch Nidoran female for a permanent team member, but if I can deal with Mankey, it’s SOMETHING for Brock at least

[@DaermaeonBranKor]

I love those moments when you show your genuine reaction to what happened. You’re a dope guy, Scott.

[@C_Train74]

That Jynx near the beginning was a borderline jump scare 😂😂

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

:)

[@daveelliot7552]

Think you're going to have to start thinking about what event you'll choose to celebrate having 30,000 subscribers soon. Seems like it was yesterday you reached 20,000. What can we say? You're a likable genuine kinda guy!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Yeah, probably at 50k now. I want to space the celebration videos out.

[@grandilo5983]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon 50K is easy; your favourite gen V Pokémon in a black/white/2 run!! 😁

[@mrdewarion]

If you have any ideas, don't bother telling him. He doesn't accept submissions because it's such a bad move.

[@grandilo5983]

@@mrdewarion Oh I agree, it just sprang to my head as a silly 5 theme - probably would work best for 55555 anyway 😅

[@nautgamingnautgaming9949]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon nice venomoth tag Is it a psychic flying type??? Lol I'm thinking primeape vs poliwrath actually Speed n attack vs utility n bulk

[@maksymilianszlezak2653]

Ah yes the monke run is finally here

[@sondretaylor2877]

I really read "Mankey Only" as "Monkey Angy" and made it halfway through the video before I realized it was a mistake great video as always!

[@HideoV]

Primate and Hypno are the single player alternatives to machamp and alakazam, I think they should go against each other

[@HideoV]

Or maybe against marowak as an alternative to golem?

[@autobotstarscream765]

The single-player alternative to Alakazam is usually Kadabra. 😂

[@ryan0348]

Content is rewatchable. That's hard to achieve on KZbin.

[@Ars-Nova258]

I appreciate the additional work you put in these videos by adding info to the sides like the opponent’s moves, base stats, and even crit rate. That’s a level of detail that deserves a lot of credit.

[@adamhall4549]

just discovered your channel and man i love your content! I love the format and just how you organize everything

[@alexpaul6015]

Never knew mankey could learn thunderbolt, what a strange move! Intrigued to see if you use it with its poor special!

[@benplus1503]

Yeah TMs were absolutely busted in gen 1, it felt like every pokemon could learn every move

[@BaconNuke]

@@benplus1503 weren't some moves TMs ONLY in Gen 1 like iirc stuff like growl and tail whip had TMs assigned to them for no reason xD

[@FernandoRafaelNogueiraReis]

A bunch of pokémon can learn Thunderbolt in Gen 1.

[@ryan12432]

@@benplus1503 growlithe can learn water gun for some reason. Gen 1 is really a different beast.

[@DeathScorpi0]

I find your channel one of the most watchable/interesting on youtube about pokemon. I feel like most other pokemon youtubers I know are too serious about the games, or go into much detail about the competitive aspect, and don't bring much personal insight about the games in general, like the way you talk about butterfree or your favorite pokemon. It's like you genuinely enjoy the games rather than taking them as "jobs". I even love the inside jokes or the ones that you constantly repeat in your videos, I never get tired of them and I find it amusing lol.

[@gambleralex5083]

Great video as always Scott, very interesting to see the differences in Jrose red and blue run and your yellow run

[@DisdonnPlays]

I think why people say there's a lady who heals you is because in Gen 3 remake Fire Red/Leaf Green there is. Glad you're back to these, they're great

[@matthewelias9168]

I recently shared your channel with my friend... and he really enjoys it. It is really cool that I can talk with a friend about your videos and I wanted to share. Thanks for the great videos.

[@Laurenrdraws]

I love your videos so much! For the past few weeks I've been binging all of them (not including the REALLY early ones) and I've been loving your content so much. I'll definitely contribute to your patreon next month!

[@FetiMacTV]

I really appreciate the amount of thought and detail you put into these videos

[@KnightFerrocous]

You come back from vacation with Mankey Gang and its an hour long video. You gave me the best New Years gift Scott. Now that you've done Mankey and already did the Pokemon I would have asked for in Gen 2, Yanma, I'll start up Wingull Gang for Emerald. Doofy little seagull needs to prove he isn't just wet Zubat.

[@scottprice1330]

Another good choice. Always wondered myself. Keep it going through out the year Scott!

[@RyanTyler25]

I love the stats on the sides. It adds a ton of information to the video, and knowing current moveset / stats, etc. is really cool to see. Big fan of Jrose, but his style relies more on the badge boost glitch, where yours tends to lean more towards a traditional gameplay, and it's cool to see both sides of the coin. Really have enjoyed all the videos so far, keep em coming!

[@gabr.7878]

A super long Scott's thoughts video! This made my day

[@j5cragg642]

Great video as always Scott. Appreciate keeping your learning curves in as well, makes it much more interesting! Keep up the good work!

[@kennystyles9690]

I gotta say, for a while now the two Pokemon I was most excited to see a vid on where venomoth and manky/primape, two gen 1 Pokemon I've always loved and often felt overlooked. Glad to finally get videos for them back to back

[@ghoum56]

Love seeing the plan ahead of time, this is really cool! Mankey has always been one of my favorites sadly he's not that viable. I also love the increased use of live reactions and the notes section! Both are excellent additions!

[@ThibsyCube]

Great video as usual! Mankey was always a go-to pokemon for me growing up in Red and Leaf green

[@harrymanocha4533]

Ive always had a soft spot for Mankey and Primeape. It started in Yellow, where Mankey and Nidoran replaced my Pikachu, but was really cemented by our time together beating LeafGreen. I hope this run is a success!

[@autobotstarscream765]

Early-game Nidoran♂️ + Moon Stone in Mt. Moon = you win Gen 1.

[@dk2853]

I would love a Rapidash playthrough. She became one of my favorite Pokemon after using her in my first Platinum playthrough, since she's one of the only fire types you can get.

[@sethsevaroth]

I saw the 69 HP the first time, anticipated the "...Nice!" and was surprised it was missed. I'm glad you didn't forget in the recap. XD

[@igorl6753]

"Nice again"

[@justinwhite2725]

3:51... Starmie is considered glass canon? I remember that being one of the better tanks in early Gens. That and Vaporeon.

[@FernandoRafaelNogueiraReis]

Perhaps he meant as in single player because having to struggle through 17 battles with no rest can be tough on the star.

[@gamingwhilebroken2355]

Ya, starmie isn’t a glass cannon, it’s actually got decent bulk and recovery

[@JabariiWalker]

Absolutely love that you did a Mankey video. Mankey/Primeape is my favorite Pokémon! Lol

[@toetagsjr7302]

Idk the odds of you even reading this,but with that said . You have single handedly made me love Pokémon all over agin i think i binged your last years worth of episodes inna weekend .your knowledge and sense of humor is amazing and keeps me captivated the whole time . Thank you for having me enjoy my childhood again . Keep it up man

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I read it! I’m glad you’re feeling the love for Pokémon come back! I’m happy to know I played a part in that :)

[@ChoosenOneStudios]

You have quickly become my favorite poketuber! Thanks for all of the great videos :)

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

You're welcome ChoosenOneStudios!

[@TrueNomadSkies]

Great video dude. Mankey is a Pokemon that many of us used as kids, but who I don't think we learned very well. I also had no idea about the moved that got changed after generation 1.

[@sk8erboi101791]

Yellow was the first Pokémon game I ever played and oh man, I remember being SO frustrated with Brock with pikachu. I also never understood that your experience stayed if you blocked out after a battle, so instead of losing battles and blacking out, (or was it whiting out in yellow?) I would always shut the game off and turn it back on and retry. I’ll NEVER forget the day that I FONALLY was able to beat Brock with pikachu on SUPER LOW HEALTH…. Like I’m talkin a sliver of red bar LOL. I think my team was a pikachu, a pidgey, a rattata(who I used to pronounce as “rattatatta”), mankey is ringing a bell with Pokémon i first used, but I remember it being very weak and I don’t ever remember playing with it enough to evolve it…. Also, a few bugs I couldn’t level up because of their only moves consisting of HARDEN and string shot and me not knowing how to even read well let alone about the concept of switch training. Lol. and my secret weapon: a pidgiotto that I found randomly in virdian forest! ALL of my full team of 6 Pokémon were fainted except that sliver-of-red-bar pikachu and then I FINALLY won against that binding onyx! I remember , I was in our van praying to GOD to not let my batteries die before getting a chance to save the game after beating Brock. What a memory! How crazy that thinking about something in a video can vividly trigger a memory that I haven’t thought about in years and years. Thanks for uploading your video and helping me remember my own experiences with this game. =D PS: I know my comment is super long, but to make a long comment a bit longer: When I was a kid playing this game for the first time, I also remember using the potion from the pc, as well a the one from that random guy has at the beginning of the game, and remembering that a potion would only heal 1 Pokémon…. But once I had more than 1 Pokémon, I would have to use another potion to heal the other Pokémon… Anyway, I remember thinking it was like that for the pokecenter, thinking that healing for some reason would only fix 1 of my Pokémon, so I remember talking to the lady 6 times in a row and healing to get my entire team healed…. And I did that ALOT. Then my brother helped me with the game and showed me I was wasting ALOT of time unnecessarily doing that because healing at the pokecenter would fix all the Pokémon in my party once and for all. Lol. This is what happens when you know nothing about a game, and just barely learning how to read, and get only a cartridge from a friend, with no box or Manual, and just going for it. Batteries and hand-holding NOT included. Haha

[@nathanandsugar5252]

“I don’t want Misty to be hard as well,”- She’s in a pool. Misty is moist.

[@saphysapherin]

Holy crap this is the first time I'm seeing mankey's back sprite. It looks like a malboro (or as FF VI likes to call them, "Mad Oscar")

[@emilydonegan3208]

Yes, Mankey run! Love Mankey! Thanks for the content, Scott! And I’m finally caught up again! Now, for today’s workout, let’s work out lower bodies a bit, with some high kicks! Kick as high as you comfortably can! You can go a little out there, but don’t hurt yourself! Do it 20 times, I’m sure you can go higher than Mankey’s Low Kick!

[@patrickdoherty5094]

Enjoyable video as always, cant think of a fair match up for a vs with primeape however i think vileplume vs victreebel and golduck vs kingler would be very entertaining. Look forward to the next video

[@shikishinobi]

Good times. In a party I use Mankey/Primeape to deal hard and fast damage, particularly to trainers who are being pains (you have your hit list of them). I can see it being a glass cannon, but it is such a powerful cannon that it almost doesn’t matter… almost. The list went by very quickly, but am going to request a play through with Meowth/Persian and Staryu/Starmie as they are some of my favourites. If you have done them, I’ve clearly missed them. Enjoying your content; stay awesome!

[@DarthNash6]

Oh, a Friday video? Not a Sunday upload? I like it

[@ericchausse966]

Here we go again..thx scott for your hard work making these videos

[@QuantumMindfuck]

Mankey has a special place in my heart from having him back in pokemon Red. He's a good boy

[@miguelmarinblanco6367]

Hi Scott great video, very fun to watch, thinking about a vs opponent for primeape, i can think in 3 scenarios: 1-Seaking (looks like it has nothing to do with primeape, but they are tied in base stats-385) 2-Poliwrath/Machamp the other Fighting pkm in this gen (other than the "hitmons"), but this one is less likely due the higher stats of the 2 (but this is not always definitive for pokemon performance, so it even could become a three way vs and could be interesting) 3-The "released/forgotten left training" video, as we all know, Ash primeape was "released/left training" long time ago, some first gen pokemon that had the same luck are: Squirlte (less likely for being a first stage pkm), butterfree, pidgeot, lapras and seaking (according to wikidex ash caught one and released for a competion). Thats all that comes to my mind at this moment. Glad you are back from your vacations, see you in the next video!, Saludos amigo!.

[@sagacious03]

Okay analysis & run video! Thanks for uploading!

[@kyogery8927]

Hey Scott I have done this but I evolve him into a primape and enjoyed the whole run. I also had a fun time in the elite 4. But excited to see what mankey can do. Keep up the runs

[@scyapus]

Looking forward to that Kingler play through! I solo’d Pokémon Gold with it back in the day. Very fun.

[@somaricraftbros6283]

Oh, a Friday video? Whoops, wasn't expecting that! This seems like it'll be an interesting run.

[@MoonStaysServing]

I always slept on fighting types in generation 1, with the exception of Machamp. There's just not very many available for a long time, and by the time I had the choice between Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee, I always found them underwhelming compared to the rest of my team, and always dropped them after trying to use them. Even when using the trainer fly glitch to get both. I thought the trade Machamp in Yellow was always really cool, but it never made it onto any of my final teams when I always just caught 2 or 3 legendary birds, used 2 or 3 of the fully evolved starters, and kept Pikachu. I almost want to play Yellow again just to use the trade Machamp on my team, and see how well it does. So it was cool to see Mankey with such low base stats utilize some unique strengths like STAB fighting moves, karate chop, and just how well dig synergized with everything. Impressive run as always, it was neat seeing a pokemon with such low base stats still dominate against some pretty formidable opponents with good strategy involved, let alone in the extra pressure of trying to play optimally for RTA.

[@suckieduckie]

Critical so far, but I really like how you picked the mansion to train for effecincy. Glass canons require training and you picked a good spot. Nice.

[@after909b]

That was amazing! I have an idea for next video: Nido king vs Queen

[@johnyjones5236]

Hey, I am commenting to let you know I have been really enjoying these challenge videos! Keep it up!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Thanks for the comment Johny, I’m glad you’ve been enjoying!

[@FernandoRafaelNogueiraReis]

Thank you Johny, very cool.

[@Tuerktok]

Nice Video again! Fighting Moves in Gen 1 are really ähhm difficult 😂😂 But you did it and i hope that little apepig its proud and not that much angry anymore

[@danclaydon6588]

Manky has always been one of my favourites! No idea why, mostly I just like the name. Thanks for this :)

[@DecompressedBadger]

Hi Scott, love the channel! I think Primape should face Poliwrath as they’re the two mons that Chuck uses (you could even name the rival Chuck). Yeah, anyways keep up the great work :)

[@MattDRT0358]

Happy new year Scott! Great to have you back :)

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Great to be back!

[@FernandoRafaelNogueiraReis]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Hope you're feeling better!

[@jeremaya3651]

Love your work my man and the channel is growing which is also very satisfying :) Greetings from germany 🔥☺

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Greetings back at you from Canada!

[@federicodebiasi6228]

Scott you make me feel better and you make me laugh during my covid flu, so thank you 🙏🏼

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Get well soon Federico!

[@hhjan594]

Hey, you know if you lost to the Rocket on the end of the Nugget Bridge, when you go back you can get another nugget from him? You can possibly farm nuggets by losing and losing again from him.

[@ShadowtheYouTuber523]

Only works in the GBA remakes

[@aliasink7984]

Very happy to have a new video. One suggestion, maybe do a poll for nicknames. I know you can do better than angry lol. Like "Roid-Monkey" or "Agro-Ape" haha. Also, if you do happen to do the Exeggcute video, I like "Shelly" for the nickname. Awesome video as always though, keep up the good work!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Yeah, I need help with the nickname!

[@aliasink7984]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon always willing to help 😁

[@uli11]

Primeape vs sandslash. They have nearly identical stats. They’re both physical based 2 stage Pokémon… and two of my faves from gen one 🤩

[@RenegadeGamer89]

I want to see them give the Mankey line a 3rd evo and name him Goranga (Gorilla + Anger). I've always loved the Mankey line they are just underwhelming compared to other fighting types.

[@remydirt3158]

It could have just been orangeru

[@RenegadeGamer89]

@@remydirt3158 lol yeah but in terms of personality Orangeru is the complete opposite of Mankey and Primeape. I was thinking of Goranga being Fighting/Ghost since the Pokedex says Primeape get so angry they die.

[@remydirt3158]

@@RenegadeGamer89 I think of it like he is the anger guru

[@Laughingwithtravii]

ooo on my current firered playthru i got a mankey early on (charmander starter and metal claw still just doesnt feel quite good enough for me.) anyways now its a primeape and ive never really used him before honestly but hes kinda great! karate chop, mega punch, rock slide and seismic toss are what im working with right now and its solid honestly. anything i dont outright kill i can at least dent with toss before i die/switch. super excited to watch this AND i just got my dinner, peak gamer. edit: onix is sneaky fast. i only just recently noticed because my pokemon diamond playthru lmfao. my main team is full of slow to average speed pokemon. gastrodon, weezing, kricketune, magcargo, pelipper (thought about using tailwind tbh) and biberal. ANYWAYS the amount of times id get outsped by pokemon (mainly onix) i didnt think about normally was so funny i was not used to my entire team being so slow. i really unintentionally made a trick room team 😂😭 on the positive side, weezing is incredible and i still love bulky ground/waters so theres that. anyways back to the vid. also i think rapidash would be good cause it also has good speed and attack, decent special as well i think but the movepool is yikers even in later gens from what i recall. i saw persian mentioned too and i think that would be good as well. i think poli line has too much versatility for it to be fair tbh. poli has speed bulk movepool and power. need a VS thats speed power focused with a rather shallow movepool. kingler vs rapidash could be the play as well. pokemon greatly benefited by the physical/special split basically. such good attack stats with STAB using the lesser stat. just some rambles, love your vids as always💖✨ two things of note/questions/what ifs: mimicing thunder wave instead of ice beam for the lance fight, using rock slide for dragonite. this also solves aerodactyl outspeeding you. dunno if mankey has enough bulk to make it work but if it has enough special to make ice beam work i figured id mention it lol. instead of rest, i think you could have mimiced recover from zam or if you didnt wanna risk the OHKO from it, leech seed from coconuts. youd win the stall with dig damage avoid and leech seed i think, as well as entering into the later fights with higher hp? in theory anyways. oh also just noticed you could mimic dewgongs rest instead of learning it as well so youd keep karate chop if its needed. attack first turn to proc it so it uses it second turn, mimic rest, kill dewgong, have rest for slowbro or whatever. aye you mimiced high jump kick nice. i REALLY love mimic. i said it on another vid but its SO cool in gen 1 honestly. like the variety from being able to have rest to high jump kick to thunder wave/ice beam to recover/leech seed etc w i l d. like the fact theres potentially mutiple ways to use it really just boggles my mind the more i see you use it.

[@DonYagamoth]

Research, planning, routing, and spreadsheets are often my favorite parts about doing challenge runs - I hope you enjoy those parts as well, and it's not just additional work on top of the high production quality you aim for at this point ^^; One thing I'd like to mention about the spreadsheets: Using colors and simple conditional formatting can make them significantly easier to read for yourself. I realized that when I publicised my Tales of Phantasia speedrun notes in the form of a spreadsheet, and decided to make it more readable for the people that were interested in running it. Suddenly, it was significantly easier for myself to read my notes during a run as well °-°; Mankey=>Primeape is a version exclusive to Red, and I always considered Meowth=>Persian the equivalent version exclusive for Blue -> So, maybe that could be the vs setup? Not sure how well that would fit though Edit: Ah, forgot the most important part: Thank you for your video, always pleasant to watch your work :)

[@FernandoRafaelNogueiraReis]

Hey, it's the Secret of Mana runner! Fancy seeing you here.

[@luigibarqs]

I admittedly don't have much experience using Mankey or Primeape myself, but seeing what it could do when one of my friends was playing a Gen 1 Nuzlocke, it was rather impressive.

[@Gnu_Hope]

Scott.. can someone talk about or acknowledge the Weepingbell codpiece worn by Bikers? I can't be convinced that's not an upsidedown Weepingbell

[@browncow5210]

I find it funny that low kick was initially the signature move of the Machop line. You would think Pokemon known for their incredible upper body strength and 4 arms in its final form would have a move based on punching or grappling, but nope. It's low kick.

[@benplus1503]

16:18 The Rapping Lass would actually be a sick af stage name though.

[@TerraEmperor1]

My favorite angry monke. Thanks man I needed a pick me up for today.

[@arckrokosz3123]

The reason Lorelei has that strange a.i. modification is vecause of a softlock that can occur within her room back in Red and Blue with her Dewgong always using rest against a fighting pokemon knowing the move Rage. If used, the battle will infinity go on due to enemy trainers not consuming pp. Lorelei is the only trainer in RB that got a special A.I. in the makings for Yellow

[@jacklynfrost93]

I love your videos! Keep up the good work! 🥰

[@BobSagetW310]

I love his back sprite! What are those little noodle arms! lol

[@FridayDay030]

You're fun to watch. I hope you become a full time poketuber!

[@daveshn]

I was surprised it needed so many resets early on. End game, not so much, it is frail. I've tried to use it in a lot of Gen 1 nuzlockes and only took it to the end once in a FR nuzlocke. Questions and ideas: -Are you going to use Mewtwo for your 150th video or as the final Gen 1 video? -Primeape should go against Persian. They're both glass cannons who get an always-crit stab. Also, since you'll be doing Weezing vs. Arbok because of Team Rocket, Meowth/Persian has to go somewhere. Another option would be Sandslash. -Golbat vs. Tentacruel Battle of that annoying poison type that's everywhere and confuses your 'mons. -Mr. Mime vs. Jynx Battle of the psychic types you can only get through trade. -Poliwrath vs. Exeggutor Water/Fighting vs. Grass/Psychic. It seems one sided, but, in-game, water is great and grass is bad while fighting is bad and psychic is great. -Dodrio vs. Dugtrio vs. Megnaton Triple battle of the triples. Also, they sort-of have a perfect rock-paper-scissors. Electric isn't immune to flying, but it works in all other regards. -Dragonite physical vs. Dragonite special I was thinking about who you could possibly have go up against dragonite. Seems it would be best to wait for gen 2 and verse tyranitar. But, what if you did what you did with snorlax and just changed a key aspect of each side?

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Good ideas. Some of these are planned. Dragonite I have another idea with though. But I may actualy take your suggestion instead...

[@Btobebone]

I do like the mankey and primeape line. primeape got me a clutch win in the pokemon card game when I was a kid. my primeape had a move called top drop where you took the opponent's top card from thier draw pile, and if it was a pokemon, you did its total health in damage to his active pokemon. I was losing vs a psychic deck with a mew two up who was able to knock out my weaker benched pokemon and I was 1 turn away from losing when my primeape pulled the second copy of my opponent's mewtwo off the top of his deck and 1 shorted not only his main pokemon but his backup plan in one fell swoop.

[@CypherDND]

Really like the pacing of your videos! You should try a run sometime using unpopular or seldomly used moves....like submission lol.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

You truly want me to be frustrated :P

[@grandilo5983]

Is the challenge dex new? That's a super cool idea, props to the person who came up with it!!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I’ll take this props ;)

[@FernandoRafaelNogueiraReis]

24:40 Yo, that's so smooth, like, wtf? Can we talk about this? I like the new format, it rewards long time viewers, cuts on the repetition and invites new audience to check your older stuff. Also props to showing some of your preparation, you go very hard into it. It looks like you fixed your audio and now your recording voice and live one sound more alike to me. This comment was made while you're at Fival but I can't help myself, there's just too much greatness here to wait until the end! "Answering the questions wrong is the fastest way." Shouldn't it be the other way around, faster to get everything right? Shen, the speedrunner, would be proud with all your numbers. By the way, Squirtle is the best in Gen 1, followed by Charmander and lastly, Bulbasaur. Of course, speedruns are very different from your challenges even if both aim for speed. You survived Nidoqueen because Earthquake doesn't hit through Dig in Gen 1. IIRC nowadays it does double damage.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Faster to answer the questions wrong if you want to train. Faster to answer them right if you want to skip the trainers. It's slower to answer right and then talk to the trainer at 4x speed. At 1x speed it might be faster to answer correctly and then talk to the trainer to skip their walk time (trainers walk slowly)

[@FernandoRafaelNogueiraReis]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Gotcha, I feel like I didn't get to hear all your beautiful thoughts at that time, but here they are. Thanks!

[@aarong9054]

Don't think we missed the placement of the Onix at 12:20 with Brock's nickname...

[@bateltheassistant]

Great playthrough, Mankey would be proud 😁👏. Maybe, mimicing hyper beam in the Lance fight instead of ice beam could be other option to win this fight with less resets. Mankey has great attack stat, and hyper beam in this gen doesn't require a recharge turn if you knock the opposing pokemon, so maybe it could have helped. By the way, fun fact: Mankey's japanese name is just monkey, with wrong spelling and Primeape's original name is translated to angry monkey. 😄So I think that angry monkey should go up against Dugtrio. Because they are kind of equal in terms of base stat total, and they are both early game pokemons that will have trouble during the league, and they both have one evolution, basically almost in the same level.

[@gustavu_as]

Amazing content. As usual

[@Maria-Maybe]

I think sandslash would be a good Vs match for primeape. They both have a high crit move and access to dig. Base stat totals are incredibly similar and sandslash trades speed for bulk. Would be an interesting hare Vs tortoise fight.

[@valor1omega]

I never used the pig monkey, I always found it as trash even after watching JRose and even now after this video. So it's fun watching Scott doing these challenges with terrible.

[@TirelessGaming]

Dude, I love the screen layout!!! Don't change it! :D

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Already made overlays for all 151 Pokémon! It’s not changing ;)

[@TirelessGaming]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon noiceee

[@TheOmegaDragon]

Primeape vs Persian maybe since they are version exclusives

[@DrivenArc]

In the initial low level runs, I think you should have maybe kept Low Kick and spammed it more. It does, theoretically, do very slightly more than Rock Slide against the Ice types (except for Jynx). And the flinch chance can break it's way through a lot of problem areas when combined with Rest, especially against Lorelei. That said, something had to be given up for that horrible Lance fight. And 90% really does still feel terrible, especially in Gen 1. Can't blame you ditching it. I also have to commend you for your spreadsheet stuff. It's dry and perhaps not exciting, but once you learn from it just how much experience comes from where, you suddenly have a much better idea of how to route. Gives you a new appreciation for the game. Before I did something similar I used to grind Victory Road before the E4, now my favourite spot is farming Ponytas, Muk and Weezing in the Pokemon Mansion (depending on version). Even without considering that it gets you more experience on average, it is just so much closer and easier to get to a Pokemon center to recharge and keep grinding. It's saved many many hours. Now that's out of the way, Rapidash! It is kind of difficult to partner off. Traditionally there are parallels between the Pokemon Mansion and the Seafoam Islands, and the big link to be made is that you trade a Ponyta for a Seel in the lab right nearby. The resulting Dewgong is a monster in casual play though. Dewgong is great in Gen 1, and poor Rapidash will have a hard time against nearly any Water type. I think there's a chance a race could be close between Rapidash and Seaking? They have similar mixed attacking stats. Most other Water types start with at least Bubble, but Seaking is stuck with Peck for a very long time, and it's base stats are not great. Late game it has some better moves to leverage against the last Gym Leaders/E4 than the fire type but perhaps Rapidash can blaze enough of a trail through the early game? I also vote for Primeape vs Persian, even if Persian has all the chance of winning through better. So why not. Rapidash vs Seaking, Primeape vs Persian, Golduck vs Seadra.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Funnily enough, I find spreadsheets really exciting ....... I"m weird.

[@nahte123456]

Both having garenteed crits, a 2 stage family, and being glass canon's my first thought was Persian. Then realized what a stomp that would probably be. So Poliwrath I guess?

[@timtam2400]

Since you know Jrose, you probably know he was originally going to compare all 3 Legendary Birds in 1 video, but instead decided to separate them. I'd like to see a comparison between them, like with the Eeveelution suggestion I made.