Cruella Pitch Meeting

Step inside the pitch meeting that led to Disney’s Cruella!
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In the past few years, Walt Disney has fallen in love with the idea of churning out live-action remakes and spinoffs of their beloved animated classics. Movies like Mulan, The Jungle Book, The Lion King, Aladdin and more have all gotten the live-action. Now, it’s the turn of 101 Dalmatians. Kind of.
Cruella definitely raises some questions. Like how do you make a villain known for wanting to skin dogs engaging as a protagonist? What’s up with all the music? How did Cruella set up that parachute? Did we really need know the origin of her name? Are Pongo and Perdita brother and sister? Why did she give people dogs? Is it even possible for Emma Stone’s Cruella to turn into the Cruella De Ville that people know? If not, why is this a thing?
To answer all these questions and more, step inside the Pitch Meeting that led to Disney’s Cruella! It’ll be super easy, barely an inconvenience.
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[@jacobhoffman188]

- "but Cruella is a legitimately evil person, no one will like her" - "if we make her attractive with good fashion sense people will just say she's sassy"

[@garreonlefay6703]

And when old people with money are crazy then they get called Eccentric, not mad. Your comment is true though.

[@MC-wh3xm]

Ohh a very sassy puppy skinner

[@thescreenslaver8520]

Personally Cruella De Vil was always one of my favorite Disney antagonists. I loved her fur coats. The animation when she hugs when she’s first introduced is just mesmerizing.

[@onewhocollects6658]

I told my gf that cruella is evil. Then she said that she looks cool nah and is cool. I was like 😆😆🤦🏿‍♂️. But the puppies and she said but that's not in this movie.

[@ghostlord2171]

@@MC-wh3xm the sassiest sir

[@Anonymous-bu5bk]

I cannot think of a better way to summarise the insanity of Modern Disney than: "Dalmatians killed Cruella De Vill's mother."

[@teleportingpotatoe]

they Batman her

[@kadelin3318]

Which didn't end up giving her the characteristic desire to skin dalmations (I'm taking Ryan's word for it of course I didn't watch it)

[@MaestroMojo]

@Kade Lin You’re right, I have seen it and she doesn’t hate Dalmatians by the end, in fact they become her dogs, so why even create that plot point? lol

[@MurasakiTsukimaru]

Don't forget that the movie also had Disney's 7th "First ever gay character"

[@patrickcrane167]

Unless she loses her dogs somehow and is so infatuated with them she need them close to her and she gave away the offspring to Roger and Anita and she tries to buy them back...

[@nikhilshah9559]

Waiting for Anakin’s origin story where it’s revealed that the reason he hates sand is because his mom was murdered by Sand Peop- wait a minute.

[@Tenhr]

I think this won't age well

[@NikoJr.]

There's no way George Lucas did that on purpose

[@newbie6377]

@@Tenhr just like younglings

[@nobodyyouexpected]

@@NikoJr. I mean, he did, that's pretty much the entire point of the "I hate sand" monologe.

[@elfbrownie7226]

Anikin was a Mary Sue, Rae is better deal with it.

[@lilyoliver5520]

New origin story: Mother Gothel's parents were killed by becoming old

[@bluegenes2273]

🤯

[@grass7864]

🤣

[@mni_7]

technically true

[@johnalexander6858]

This is the most unbeatable enemy 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@morganmiller41]

Watch the animated tangled series. Mother Gothel was revealed to be one of 3 servants for a bigger baddy its tight

[@jeffanderson6806]

Looking forward to the Bambi remake where it's revealed the hunter's daughter died in a car crash that was caused by Bambi's mom running into the road.

[@danhay8933]

Wow...wow...wowowow

[@Dalton_Boardman2000]

It could go the Spider-Man 3 route and retcon/reveal that the hunter didn't actually kill Bambi's mother but it was his evil and more sadistic partner.

[@bookadmirer.3699]

DONT GIVE THEM ISEAS!

[@katieg.9235]

😆😆😆

[@santirank]

Bite your tongue!

[@calebcostrini]

Dalmatians: *exist* Cruella: "Hello, my name is Cruella de Vil. You killed my mother, prepare to die!"

[@InsertCreativeusername_]

Dalmatians: *bark bark* (stop saying that!)

[@chanceboarders7749]

Cruella DEVIL

[@marquisdelafayette3333]

@@InsertCreativeusername_ offer me dog fur

[@trinaq]

Yes, it would have been more entertaining had Cruella challenged the Dalmatians to a duel!

[@treshmiranda699]

it was the Dalmatian with 6 digits on its right paw

[@DiegoEagler96]

I wonder if when Ryan watches movies he instinctively thinks as the scene happens: “there it is, that’s my ‘actually it’s going to be super easy, barely an inconvenience’”.

[@CigarDoug]

that's why writing these videos is... well, you know.

[@wills2397]

I think about this everytime I watch a movie now! I always try to predict what’s the super easy barely an inconvenience scene lol. And the “ ohhhh _______ is tight!”

[@zakarisahal9343]

@@wills2397 same lol

[@donrane]

He sure is

[@doofus0123]

I imagine it must be pretty difficult for him to come up with that moment...

[@Xadov]

Coming next fall: Ursula’s heroic efforts to overthrow the monarchy

[@Shuizid]

I'd watch that, because she wasn't to bad. I mean, she was very open about the contracts and consequences.

[@thewinchester7955]

this but unironically

[@ThePurpleKnightmare]

Maybe Scar was older than Mufasa but Mufasa tricked his dad into making him the next king.

[@sudevsen]

I would defiinitelynwaych this

[@sudevsen]

Maleficent amd Ursula team up to beat the sea and land kings.

[@dezh6345]

Next, they're gonna have a Smaug origin story, where we see that he was saving that gold for his mother's operation.

[@kennethnwebb]

give this man ah cheque

[@xlrouge]

😂

[@legosnek]

Even better: Sauron origin story where we see that the true reason he forged the One Ring was for engagement purposes.

[@justanotherglorpsdaymornin5097]

You joke but there were much worse dragons than Smaug in the silmarillion. You could use them like the Baroness.

[@vaughncoolman8273]

Then Smaug learns that he could have had Medicare for all and that makes him hate everybody.

[@AliMakaveli]

*Thanos Origin: His Mom was killed by scales after losing her balance*

[@LuisSoto-fw3if]

Lmao, I'd watch that movie

[@nirast2561]

"Because half the universe killed my mother, ok?"

[@Doc-hp5wf]

@@nirast2561 no his mom feed him only half of everything so he killed half the population to eat a full plate

[@whatsawhizzerwebnovels4927]

His original name was Manos, but then a bully said "You're not a man, you're just a thing. I'll call you Thanos!" And from then on, he was named Thanos.. edit: That bully was Drax father.

[@pon3d120]

@@whatsawhizzerwebnovels4927 But also secretly Thanos’ father.

[@edenmckinley3472]

In the original book, 101 Dalmatians, Cruella was given an origin story. She was the last member of an extremely eccentric aristocratic family and she met Pongo and Perdita's owners in school. her hair was originally black and green, and she was the popular kid in school. An unnamed family tragedy happened, and her green hair turned white from the shock. Her Dad died of health problems, and her mom committed suicide, I think. Also, in the book, Cruella de Vil was her birth name and she had very poor taste in both clothes and furniture.

[@vipe650r]

Fascinating. I knew none of that.

[@OwlBard]

That is like a hundred times more interesting than the story in this movie lol

[@ambivertreader]

​@@OwlBard yeah, that story would've been so fun to watch from the pov of the female owner (can't remember her name) in a Great Gatsby fashion.

[@RiannaPeterson]

I like the movie version much better

[@kayhoww]

@@RiannaPetersoncongratulations

[@MalcomJuliaMorgan]

skinning puppies? "ok" smoking trademark cigarettes? "thats just plain disgusting."

[@fanatictastic5787]

Yeah and yet they show ver visibly getting drunk in the dress shop

[@giorgimamalashvili4220]

Dalmatians killing Cruella's mother is basically a definition of "singing killed my grandma" moment.

[@SoranotRoxas]

This is too darn accurate.

[@thedestroyasystem]

Oh no *flashbacks*

[@retrozip]

The trolls movie

[@mynameisjoedahand3008]

(:

[@thedude3065]

that's almost like Abby's father being the doctor Joel shot in the last game

[@john-michaelcrljen6713]

If there's ever an Ursla origin movie, it's gonna be about her mother being killed by a pair of legs.

[@lilelbee423]

Legs that drop kick like those dalmatians! Haha

[@boarfaceswinejaw4516]

thats certainly someone's fetish material.

[@GeekOwtLowd]

Nah... it would be a way of trashing Triton. Probably make him the bad guy who betrayed her like the king in Maleficent. Take that patriarchy!

[@leahl5007]

HAH!

[@alexandersmith4731]

@@GeekOwtLowd OH that's the angle that's they're going I'm sure for the remake, not to mention some of those Disney villain origin books basically goes into the idea that her and Triton used to be siblings, and she was banished due to *insert random unfair reason oppression/fat/horrible/leadership* and that's unfair for some reason

[@iroccata]

How does the baroness doesn't recognize her employee? Her hair is different now It worked for Superman, makes sense.

[@emilygoodman6853]

Actually had a manager reintroduce herself to me after I cut my hair. It took her a few moments to realize I wasn’t new, lol 😆

[@realitymatters4745]

And Ryan the screen writer and producer. Everybody thinks he's two different people

[@iroccata]

@@realitymatters4745 aren't they?

[@yatsumakitohashi3292]

“Dropkicking Dalmatians” would make a cool band name tho

[@phoenixrising642]

Sounds metal

[@meetaverma8372]

@@phoenixrising642 or just hardrock

[@ericbeilmann3649]

You would probably want to find some way to make it known that it is the Dalmatians that are doing the dropkicking not the ones being dropkicked.

[@AgentTasmania]

Covers of Dropkick Murphys in Croation

[@SvanTowerMan]

@@ericbeilmann3649 That could be done through the band logo.

[@grisellegomez1698]

The plot is so painful to hear. He's not even making fun of it. He's just straight up narrating the story hahaha

[@ninerevolver]

It's not haha

[@Jebu911]

@Bitty It actually is a crime comedy.

[@Santoryu90]

@Bitty It is a comedy

[@fairyhaven13]

The movie was actually a ton of fun. It's Screenrant's job to make fun of movies. So, anything they do a Pitch Meeting of is going to sound bad. But, it was far, far more enjoyable than Mulan, and for me, a lot better than the Last Dragon.

[@thestray]

@Bitty it's not really a villain origin story really, she bears no grudge towards the dogs and doesn't become a villain. It really is like an alternate reality version of the character, which is fine, cause it's a fun movie.

[@avithedev]

"So why did Estella become so evil and want to skin puppies?" Well when she was little, a Dalmatian did a backflip, kicked her mother down a cliff and saved the day. BOW WOW WOW WOW WOW

[@meelybug1239]

too good 🤣

[@mariposa9506]

🤣

[@wanderlustwarrior]

Woof, that was good!

[@VPBFR89]

That's fatal!

[@crockettlauncher]

Yippee yo yippee yay.

[@maxmarks3503]

"Ah so my mom was kicked by a Dalmatian at THIS party" really drives home how silly this whole plot is

[@MJAYZ007]

The movie is fire though

[@CK_Helsing]

There actually is a real life fabric that burns quickly like that, it's called flash cotton. Though it doesn't burn nearly that clean, and create a ton of smoke lol

[@anonme_]

Thank god for the comment! I was so desperately trying to remember the name.

[@fermintenava5911]

Now we only need to know if that's something you should pin onto your dress and if it was known in the 1970's

[@anonme_]

​@@JustinWilliams-ed2ug You sound very confident for someone who doesn't "really" know. Look up the words 'flash cotton' on the internet. It seems like your work experience of ten years wasn't very enlightening. Movies and fiction in general tend to take some liberty. We are talking about a movie where a girl is born with perfectly parted black and white hair and Dalmatians kill a woman with a jump kick in the face. If Cruella's whole point was in being dramatic and she was such a good designer/seamstress, who's to say she didn't manage to conjure an entire overlay dress from flash cotton? Stop asking people to not run their mouth. They'll run damn well whatever they like

[@Stettafire]

@@JustinWilliams-ed2ug They do though, but most folk I know call it "gun cotton" not "flash cotton". 5 minutes of Google my dude

[@caspar_gomez]

flash cotton is tight

[@Mbehrhshhenr]

Screenwriter guy’s backstory is that a bunch of legitimately good screenwriters pushed screenwriter guy’s mom off a cliff

[@MiyuwiTV]

K lol huh

[@DrDeathpwnsu]

Giving him the ability to make even good movies sound terrible, or, in this case, make terrible sounding movies sound so bad you actually question your regard for the human species and life as we know it.

[@TimThomason]

And that's why screenwriter guy wants to skin legitimately good screenwriters.

[@markmac2206]

and his gf did him dirty so he had a dinosaur eat her.

[@starkillersneed]

Movie Executive Guy's backstory is that his dad died in an airplane accident because the wing was screwed into the plan too loosely. This traumatized him so much he became obsessed with things that are tight.

[@TheArchangel911]

“Maybe time had a bad childhood” 😂😂😂

[@nobodyinparticular1290]

as did space

[@kuronetwork920]

Bad father

[@vullord666]

I mean, if it's the first thing that ever existed and will always exist, that does sound pretty lonely and maddening

[@justanotherbaptistjew5659]

@@vullord666 that’s a pretty big assumption. Surely time itself is not the Unmoved Mover or the Uncaused First-Cause.

[@vullord666]

@@justanotherbaptistjew5659 I really don't see what could predate time. Whether there's any matter in the universe or not, time is still advancing forward. Though I suppose time is relative so I can see argument about if time even actually exists (or does it need someone or something to feel the passage of time to exist). Of course this is why I'm neither a philosophy or science major, so I'll just concede before I fall down a rabbit hole.

[@joelshajan4996]

Cruella is the perfect example of stories that needn't be told

[@82dorrin]

"Let me get this straight; you think Dalmatians Spartan-kicking her mother off a cliff is funny??" "I do. And I'm tired of pretending that it's not"

[@ihale13]

"You killed my mother!" "No, I am your mother."

[@TG-wg4tw]

Nooooooooooooooooo

[@TrunkJunky]

What a twist!

[@dazzlingburritoes5693]

"You're not my mother, my mother doesn't have b-b-b"

[@buggmann862]

She may have been her mother, but she wasn't her mommy

[@deborahhanna9126]

"Join me and we'll rule the fashion world!!!!!"

[@Christopherianmatt]

So an alternate title could have been, “The Devil Wears Puppies.”

[@chupakabra1129]

Or parachute panties

[@zrencos]

LMAO

[@psienko2165]

Close, so close. But alternate title should have been “A Deville Wears Puppies”

[@Lowlander-ci7is]

Ha!

[@timmo5192]

@@psienko2165 this is gold.

[@thegreatfusili4673]

I like how the writers decided that they needed to explain how she got her name, but not how she got her freakishly unnatural hair color.

[@hansolo235]

“Because.” “Well okay then.”

[@ceasarsaran8573]

She was born with it. How did you get your hair color?

[@communist_oranges]

​@@ceasarsaran8573 most people arent born with white and black hair perfectly split down the middle

[@themug406]

​@@communist_oranges Most people arent born with extra limbs but it happens, for no particular reason

[@kyleconnor2759]

You must go to the same screenwriting school as the writers Ryan exposes

[@johnmichaelfidler8499]

Me to screen rant: hey what do you pay ryan george? Screen Rant: uh... Me: DOUBLE IT! Screen Rant: I didnt even say a number Me: THEN TRIPLE THAT!

[@bob_1216]

Ok??

[@bob_1216]

Wait I get it now

[@bob_1216]

Never mind

[@Kharnellius]

@@bob_1216 editing posts IS an option. ;)

[@TG-mj4cs]

I feel like the phrase, "It works perfectly, because that's what I wrote here", is used quite often nowadays.

[@hobbyoftheday4017]

This is how engineers think these days.

[@cryssnail]

See also: finance departments

[@VisiblyPinkUnicorn]

Cruella: "You killed my mother!" Baroness: "No, Cruella... I am your mother." Cruelle: "No... that's not true! THAT'S IMP... wait..."

[@dancrane3807]

Examine your feelings.

[@asafupps]

@@dancrane3807 You know it to be true

[@tsunamifoxy]

Search your feelings, you know it to be true!

[@360axe]

Wow wow wow... Wow

[@dekerus3]

Underrated comment.

[@i_m_ash]

Disney's logic: Hire actresses so beautiful that even if they play as villain, you will love them and root for them.

[@alexgac1801]

Only if you are a simp, though. We are so, so lucky that Hitler wasn't a sexy lady in her prime, or half the world you still be "rooting for her".

[@bamboozla9977]

Buzzing to see the origin story of Clayton about a fateful trip to the zoo in which cost his mother her life at the hands of a gorilla because she wore a yellow dress and it mistook her for a banana.

[@TheSilverOrn]

Remember when Cruella wanted to skin dalmations because she had just about every other fur jacket she could think of? IF you do then you know more about the character than the director and writer did.

[@cptrelentless80085]

All fur coat and no knickers

[@alvaro.martinez]

Very relatable!

[@dumbnutz5145]

@@cptrelentless80085 fur coats and no knickers is tight!

[@Qwairy]

It' not that they didnt knon about the character. They changed her character because of noflake and parent ho wouldnt want their kids to watch a movie about a truly evil woman that harm pet. Would have been rated PG13 minimum nowadays haha

[@picxal1948]

@@Qwairy The actual movie is rated PG-13

[@ShadyDoorags]

"Okay, well why make Cruella's origin movie if she's not gonna turn into the Cruella that people know?" Because Maleficent made over $750 million.

[@BrandonBlackmoor]

This is a better movie than "Maleficent". Sadly, I do not think it will make as much money. Partly because Angelina Jolie is ... well, Angelina Jolie, and partly because of the people making sourpuss comments on this video.

[@jordimelis4463]

Weird, "Cruella" looks awful and nonsensical but I heard Maleficent is actually not bad.

[@ShadyDoorags]

@@jordimelis4463 Maleficent is an okay movie, the problem is that in order to make Maleficent herself look good, it had to make every other character look bad, which is made even worse when you have knowledge of the original movie. And unlike Wicked and Once Upon A Time where the bad guy is still the bad guy, Maleficent is seen as the good guy. It was supposed to be the same story but from a different perspective, but really it was a completely different story and characters with borrowed elements from the original.

[@souless88]

They say why maleficent is different. That was the "real" telling of the story. It was good tho. Cruella on the other hand is AMAZING but it needs another moviebto explain why she would want to hurt dogs. They changed her whole character. But the movie is one of disneys best if you just look at it as its own thing.

[@physicslover4951]

@@souless88 Exactly. I believe that they just borrowed the names of the characters for safety that this movie would do well. It is nit really a remake though. It is a completely different story.

[@cora1334]

"And then she realizes she killed her mother." "Oh! Very rude."

[@DamiMarian]

"I'm a little disturbed to know that Perdita and Pongo were related..." Man, that's gonna be difficult to forget.. My brain: Actually it'll be super easy barely an inconvenience!

[@emilygoodman6853]

Just file it away with Nala and Simba

[@chaoticbliss4169]

I mean to be fair that is normal in the animal kingdom.

[@JDM12983]

Seems some one doesn't know how pure-bred dogs are made/blood lines kept "pure bred"....

[@gilbert8162]

@@JDM12983 seems someone doesn't understand jokes.

[@joelavrunin347]

"Cruella grows up an orphan without a mother." "Why?" "Because this is a sympathetic origin story, so we are giving her the Disney Princess treatment"

[@abduljah9355]

She had two moms and lost them both! How negligent.

[@trinaq]

Yes, even Disney Villains are conveniently orphans now, not just the heroes!

[@bongumusasibiya1772]

"Sir I saw the logo at the door"

[@vetarlittorf1807]

@Jack the Gestapo I mean, didn't you hear? It's a crime to give birth in Disney movies.

[@kinggamer1442]

@@abduljah9355 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@liltiger3]

Can't wait for Clayton's origin story where it's revealed his parents were killed by Gorillas at the zoo.

[@wowrada]

Only female empowerment origin stories, sorry

[@roxannabellkuehn4645]

Mother Gothel's parents were killed by the sun, so the sun's powers kept her young as a to make up for the lives lost.

[@bustermller5492]

Hes actually the boy who fell into Harambes enclosure

[@cradiculous]

And then the movie ends with Clayton adopting Tarzan

[@austinreed7343]

He’s a S.W.M., so no.

[@toombsinagoodway]

This is like watching the whole movie but instead of wasting my time not being entertained for two hours, I enjoyed it.

[@blackguyofthesouth2161]

Edge lord

[@BatfreakStudios]

Oh burn!!! Your totally right lol. And I would know cause I waisted 2 hours of my time watching it!! lol.

[@MMAli-rq8kd]

I have to admit the Emma's performance was amazing! *Both Emmas!*

[@Tonyhouse1168]

Plot twist: there was only one Emma talking to herself the whole time!! - now I wonder where I got that idea from..

[@winstonknowitall4181]

Performances, costumes and music made this movie. The plot is terrible.

[@rebellyanmagic6409]

Can't wait to see Gaston's origin where his parents were stabbed by literacy and drowned in respect women juice.

[@Jasnah.Kholin]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tremor3258]

Books drop kicked them off a cliff

[@katesdollroom1]

😄😄😄😄😄

[@latetotheparty7551]

Underrated comment.

[@SobridMusic]

In that case they better cast a Black man

[@GameKeeper28]

"Now that you mentioned it I HAD never wondered about that." Perfectly sums up the live-action reboots.

[@Statalyzer]

But otherwise how would we know why Han Solo isn't just named Han?

[@Shuizid]

@@Statalyzer Still wonderung about the "Han" though - surely there is some desperate writer coming up with a bonkers idea. And after that, someone should make a prequel-prequel where we see space-jesus walking on some clouds "Oh, that's why they are called Skywalkers!!111"

[@johnedwardkerr7814]

Or how he got his jacket or dice...?

[@reecebayliff8716]

This is definitely an alternate reality to the original animated movie. In fact, this prequel, which as mentioned by Ryan takes place in 1970s London, takes place 2 decades after the original movie, which takes place in the 1950s.

[@vortexoverdrive9385]

Cutie pies it is about a little boy named Ian and his family. They find a tank with gas and they mistakenly eat it the gas so then they wake up with superpowers. This is not Spider-Man. Ian says that his dad‘s name is Ian too so then they all go on a big adventure, then they just become the cutie pies.

[@NiceDZNintro]

Why didn't he mention that cruella isn't a real person (legally) how did she get to take over the baroness's company

[@linklink3008]

What I was wondering too!

[@sladewilson2517]

Her actual character Estelle gave it to "cruella" in her will after she (Estelle) "dies"

[@hunterkiller1440]

"When I said drown the puppies, I meant feed them with lots of nutritious food to improve their fur. I'm glad I took those puppies away from the dog hoarders. Thats borderline dog abuse." - revisionist Cruella

[@RobotHau5]

The revision 101 Dalmatians will be that they're all 101 Teacup dogs. I bet it.

[@L0rd0fTh3N3rdz]

1619 Dalmatians

[@lilchristuten7568]

"And when I said poison them I meant give them vitamin enhanced water to improve their health so they grow bigger and stronger." "And when I said bash them in the head... I meant bash them in the head when they're older with bigger coats. I want that dalmatian fur coat I'm not so impatient that I can't wait for the puppies to grow into adults".

[@Alejandroigarabide]

@@lilchristuten7568 "But, boss... The adult fur is not as soft"

[@wargrizzero5158]

Weren't most of the 101 Dalmatians from different families? And when they couldn't reunite them with their owners at the end Anita and Roger just adopted all of them?

[@xeuxixiliak8417]

The dalmation did a backflip, snapped cruella's mom's neck, and ruined her day

[@FreyaEinde]

If they hadn’t shown that clip I would’ve thought it was joke...and the fact that it’s not a joke🤯

[@sugreev2001]

Tell that to the Baronesses snapped neck!

[@csspencer4505]

A villain is a victim who took revenge in their own hand

[@barryjohnson5288]

She was killed by Dalmatian ninjas? Just Awesome!

[@xNico1412]

Is that a Ryan George reference xD

[@noxlupa2996]

“So you have a relentless evil villain who wants to sport the skins of dead puppies as clothing to glorify and praise as misunderstood?” “Yes sir I do!” “Wow wow wow wow wow-“

[@KneelB4Bacon]

Disney execs: "Cruella has to be sympathetic." Lone Voice of Reason: "Her backstory is she wants to kill and skin puppies and turn them into a suit! There is literally nothing you can do to make someone like that sympathetic." Disney execs: "But she has to be sympathetic! Also, you're fired."

[@Nicamon]

Disney execs: "Cruella has to be sympathetic." Lone Voice of Reason: "Her backstory is she wants to kill and skin puppies and turn them into a suit! There is literally nothing you can do to make someone like that sympathetic." Disney execs: "Just make her hot. That'll do the trick."

[@matityaloran9157]

Once Upon a Time did a good job in its Cruella origins episode

[@Nicamon]

@@matityaloran9157 Not that much,IMO,but at least _that_ Cruella was actually _cruel_ unlike this one!;-P

[@matityaloran9157]

@@Nicamon What’s also true is after Once Upon a Time gave every fairy tale villain a sympathetic origin story with its own villain who later got a sympathetic origin story it was an excellent plot twist that Cruella was that evil all along and she had just fooled us in the audience the same way she fooled Isaac Heller

[@Nicamon]

@@matityaloran9157 Yyyeeaaahh,the concept was cool,but the execution was done very poorly,IMO. Since we didn't get much backstory with Kid Cruella(she has no real name and not even a Storybrook name?Seriously???😓She goes around"the real world"dressed like a COSPLAYER and with a DeVil car and no one bats an eye???🤦‍♂)and the kid actress didn't seem that great at acting either,her being a psychopath the whole time came out of nowhere and didn't seem _that_ believable to me. It felt like 1 of those twists you put at the last minute only for the sake of having a twist and not because it _actually_ makes sense with the continuity of the story....

[@np8252]

"lets get to know her" "Ahhh...I'd rather not" My feelings towards this movie in a nutshell.

[@AbjectPermanence]

The movie works a lot better if you're not thinking about how she's about to try to kill a hundred dogs shortly after the movie ends.

[@kovellmaye2861]

she's not a real person tho

[@LuisSoto-fw3if]

@@AbjectPermanence so the origin story works better as long as we think of the main character as a completely different character she will eventually will become. I can't see any problems with that

[@sakshamsharma4759]

@@kovellmaye2861 then why are you concerned?

[@leoncoben6983]

@@AbjectPermanence You'd think that maybe the writers would realize that this movie shouldn't be made then if the only way it works is if you just not think of the as that character. They're suppose to be the same person not separate people.

[@MrKlausbaudelaire]

"Lets take this psychotic woman, give her a traumatic childhood and then turn it into Devil Wears Prada meets any Heist movie"

[@jonnyman98989]

Where the protagonist's mom is killed by dalmatians...

[@Ohforgodssakethatsme]

THAT movie I would watch. Unfortunately that movie is not this movie.

[@toot7642]

@Karsielatee Watkins can't agree that it works, the characters are as interesting as a sack of potatoes, not to mention you really can't lable it as an origin movie, in that regard it literally makes no sense unless cruella is schizophrenic

[@ydid687]

@@toot7642 shh people don't like their critique, we youngsters are now snowflakes generation for a reason for weak morals despite being more educated and having access to internet's wealth of information Total myriad of failures we are.

[@kalebaelfire647]

that soul eater pfp tho

[@geminisfl]

3:06 "That felt a little abrupt" ... that's my thought across the whole movie.

[@armaanivadeo6747]

6:26 'Double it, and triple that' Remember Merchant of Venice guys😂.

[@queen2105]

Dalmatians: "For you, the day dalmatians attacked your mother was the most important day in your life. But for us? It was Tuesday."

[@jakeic1]

I recognized this reference and I clapped.

[@ablethreefourbravo]

Nice.

[@TotallyHuman]

@@jakeic1 I did not. Spn?

[@megatiny63]

@@TotallyHuman Raul Julia says it playing M Bison in the Street Fighter movie. Widely considered to be the only decent piece of acting in an otherwise infamously 'so bad it's good' film (obviously not the Dalmatians part of the quote)

[@horrorscopenightmare]

Bison lol

[@EricJacobusOfficial]

Some asshole's gonna take advantage of this "villain had a rough childhood" trend and create Adolf: Origins of a Struggling Artist. Then this trend will die, and we can all go back to normal entertainment again.

[@acsound]

Except "Springtime for Hitler" was already made--as a crappy play w/n a movie.

[@phoneicad1887]

I mean it's true Hitler had extremely tough childhood.

[@ezelfrancisco1349]

@Ben Polo And he always enraged his father, who punished him severely

[@tristinhurst6211]

@Ben Polo that doesn't justify anything he did

[@VooDooMaGicMan81]

You do realise Hollywood is run by the small hat mafia, surely.. That ain't happening..

[@rocketfire6623]

“Maybe time had I rough childhood” lol 🤣

[@notme222]

"How are we going to get people to root for Cruella?" "We'll cast Emma Stone. Nobody can dislike her."

[@connielingus8385]

This movie sounds like it came the closest.

[@radkagabarova8386]

"You killed my mother!" "NO! I`m your mother!"

[@chupakabra1129]

Noo! That's impossible!!

[@DLCS-2]

The shock .... The Drama....

[@gwenivercall]

@@chupakabra1129 Search your feelings. You know it to be true

[@ccdevil8879]

Hahahaha@

[@oliplaysbass]

Search your feelings you know it be true!

[@hranko3143]

This "Pitch meeting" concept is honestly the biggest bottomless gold mine for you. I don't see your success decreasing at all until Hollywood stops using 1st year film students to write and film these multi million dollar massive movies. Keep the dream alive buddy. I watch every video.

[@AegixDrakan]

The sad thing it, it's probably NOT 1st year film students writing the movies. It's people who have been doing the job for so long that no one wants to tell them "this idea is terrible. Stop". Not that they'd listen anyway. The execs at disney also likely don't really care either. :(

[@Noperare]

@@AegixDrakan exactly! I WISH Disney would hire film students. They prefer to keep the same overpaid old writers that keep failing them, like JJ Abrams with Star Wars.

[@natejohnson9738]

Here's the thing. People hate new and original now, that's why we are stuck in this rut

[@nabhchandra_]

he's not your buddy, guy

[@ablethreefourbravo]

"I don't see your success decreasing at all until Hollywood stops using 1st year film students to write and film these multi million dollar massive movies." Actually, even then it'll be super easy. Barely an inconvenience.

[@notfrank6586]

2:43 missed opportunity guy one: what if it's not her neckless guy two: what? guy one what if it's just a different neckless that looks the same like what if her mom and were the baroness got the same neckless at the same place, isn't a little bit of a stretch to say the baroness to be the murderer? Guy two: well you see I need you to get off back, like all the way off. Guy one: okay.

[@Rebelcommander6]

I'm still dreading the day we get a Gaston movie where he starts off as a scrawny kid XD

[@shuttittuppitt9355]

We can't stand to _look_ at you, you scrawny little _freak!_

[@timothytraver5918]

An origin story that acts like a redemption arc, except without the redemption. We just pre-sweep the evil under the rug and pretend it's not gonna happen.

[@timothytraver5918]

@hopeless "Debunking Howard Zinn." Great book that might cause you to question some preconceived notions about American History.

[@jamestowns653]

Sounds about American 😆😆😆😆

[@JITCompilation]

just like in real life!

[@grant9637]

Predemption

[@KneelB4Bacon]

Yup. And the main character is utterly irredeemable but the writers are just going to go for it, anyway. They're like an army of Ralph Wiggums saying, "I'm a genius 'cause I did a twist!"

[@goji3755]

"So why make a Cruella origin movie if she doesn't turn into the Cruella we all know and love?" I asked that same question with Maleficent.

[@seitanicgirl]

This!

[@andreibaciu7518]

because that way they can squeeze a bunch of pre-sequels

[@yuagiin]

Maleficent wasn't an origin story though, it was a retelling. It was never supposed to end the same, just to show a similar story from Maleficent's point of view where true love's kiss isn't just some rando you met in the woods. I wish they'd just made that kind of movie, but they haven't made a retelling in a while. Only cashgrabs.

[@kongmengyang1098]

Love seems like the wrong word... but I get your point.

[@3boodae749]

The thing is, this is perhaps Disney’s best live action prequel/remake. The Cruella name feels stapled on for brand recognition BUT regardless of that, it’s still a pretty good movie. It’s like if Tim Burton directed The Devil Wears Prada and set it during the 60s and 70s.

[@Tonyhouse1168]

I can’t help but love that Producer Guy has just given up and approves every movie script Screenwriter Guy writes (:

[@stupidas9466]

The fact she gives Pongo and Perdita to her friends and will later kidnap/try to kill them is also a little suspect!

[@ahmadbazzari8552]

'hEy eVeRyOnE lOoK aT mY cLoThEs' - This entire movie.

[@themaskedmark92]

See my best,see my best,see my vest

[@MrEvan1932]

That's how the trailer looked and I was really hoping it was just a shitty trailer

[@afrarunduml1170]

@@themaskedmark92 I was thinking the same

[@froggyman218]

Tbf they were some good clothes

[@lilj362]

Those clothes were fire tho

[@unforcedterror3136]

Time: Origins is a movie I really want to see now

[@davidcatlett4052]

Yeah me as well. After its rough childhood, I'm sure Time's parents will probably take issue with how they're portrayed in the movie.

[@lockwoodthexton]

“A Brief History of Time” by Stephen Hawking

[@Saint_nobody]

Tbh, I still wanna see the Pitch Meeting for that movie more than the film itself.

[@rhoydplaz2853]

Yes

[@GunNlazor]

this chain inevitably ends in a jrpg where the true creator of villains is the final boss

[@ryanrequired7624]

can you imagine almost 40 songs are played throughout the whole movie…

[@paulatamaramohamad5794]

The songs were my favorite thing about the movie

[@whyisgamora5435]

@@paulatamaramohamad5794 x69 literally what made me like the movie. Havent liked a single live action movie yet. And didnt grew up with disney, so didnt know the background stories. But invested in disney and started to consume their stuff. This is one of my top movies so far for the music 😆

[@alphachad7093]

I hate musical movie

[@Shrek-sr4mn]

@@alphachad7093 theres a difference between a musical and a movie with lots of music…

[@shuttittuppitt9355]

That's because they needed something insipid to justify the _super_ long running time. If you make the mistake of watching this pathetic _failure_ to make a villainess who _used_ to be likeable (for laughs) into a pathetic _victim_ (with zero sense of humor too), you're gonna be trapped in a dimension where "time has no _meaning"!_

[@getaloadofthisguy2927]

“I suppose I do!” Should be one of the new catchphrases

[@awsumbeto]

1961: She skins puppies 2021: But does she?

[@phillewis2630]

1980s: She likes Skinny Puppy

[@missxspencer1538]

Lmao! But this way, we can keep up the idea that anyone can dress like a badass without ever having to actually do anything badass! Just like putting leather and spikes on pop stars. They banked so much cash from everyone wanting to dress like evil Maleficent, but made it super convenient for them because the character never got her hands dirty.

[@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control]

2021: Yes???

[@torram4388]

Cruella used to be a normal girl, Until she wasn't

[@XL.Pumpkaboo]

"Drop kicking dalmatians is tight!" Thus, the studio exec. was arrested for animal cruelty -- based on a misunderstanding.

[@ScrappyDoodlez]

“We can make origin movies like that till the dawn of time” I have never laughed so loud in my entire life

[@Lordradost]

This summer, Disney presents: "Hitler, a love story"

[@theprincess3872]

Gotta be honest, I was just expecting the screenwriter to say "so dalmations pushed Cruella De Vil's mom off a cliff-" and then six minutes of laughter from the producer

[@andyz2861]

Insert the Goofy sound effect of falling off a cliff. AAAAHHHH-hoo-hoo-hoooeeee!

[@leaveowits]

Cruella: "From my point of view the -Jedi- Dogs are evil!"

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

Die, Jedi dogs!

[@crystalDM96]

She doesn't actually hate dogs or dalmations in the movie heh - they changed a lot of things. Got to watch it till the end!

[@wesleyoldham-cartoonsandtv1962]

"I skinned all of them. And not just the sires, but the dams and the puppies, too. They're like animals, and I skinned them like animals."

[@crystalDM96]

​@@wesleyoldham-cartoonsandtv1962 Nothing like that happened in this movie - nice Anakin reference though :3

[@joecoolmccall]

@@crystalDM96 but it does happen in the timeline....

[@soshiangel90]

I love when these are literally just the conversations I have while watching them.

[@0bass]

I love screen rant...but I swear "Pitch meeting" is genius. this man is goals! Editing goals!. He's just great,. Pretty much super easy, barely an inconvenience.

[@corporaterock6543]

"Cruella has parachute under her skirt." Does that mean she was gliding upside down?

[@lanasmith4795]

I think the idea was she's gliding face up like Alice in Wonderland only less magical and light-hearted

[@user_ssp]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@m_chupon5131]

She's got Princess Peach technology I guess?

[@TotallyHuman]

No, she had pants underneath so like, the skirt went up above her head

[@SoulGizmo]

She should've gone into military engineering with that tech not fashion design

[@corporaterock6543]

Baroness: Kills Cruella's mother using drop-kicking Dalmations. Also Baroness: Pushes Cruella personally and gets caught.

[@Shadow-Shell]

Well, she did tried to use the dogs

[@whamcee]

drop kicking dalmatians are tight

[@Shinmsl]

The dogs lost their touch ...

[@GlowCrab]

“Drop-kicking dalmations are tight.” This has 2 meanings but they are both cruel :/

[@patrickpredella]

Wtf dude 😅😅😅😅

[@GlowCrab]

@@patrickpredella Ryan’s the one who said it

[@patrickpredella]

Yea 😅 now I'm imagining someone that is dropping a Dalmatian and kicking it in mid air 🙈

[@OGVade]

@@patrickpredella yeah thats better than the way worse thing i thought it implied...

[@itssimplyrob]

5:05 ...the church bells were all broken?

[@calebcostrini]

"I'd rather not" is exactly how I feel about this movie.

[@Svol09]

Well, watching it free, pirated, it's fine 🤣

[@JeroenDoes]

It sums up my feelings for most disney live action movies. Not the marvel stuff that is actually good

[@aakash0134]

I just watched it and it was actually pretty good!

[@cy-one]

@@aakash0134 Agreed. I went in with a bit of hope (after having seen Th3Birdman's quick-reaction to it), but not much tbh, not after Mulan. I did enjoy it quite a lot.

[@somethinglikethat2176]

@@Svol09 that still takes a couple of hours of my life that I'd rather spend doing other stuff.

[@mzamnesia7190]

"hey you know what people want? an origin story about a woman who wants to skin puppies"

[@paulgibbon5991]

Thing is, it could have worked! Just don't even try to make her sympathetic beyond the fact that she's opposing someone slightly worse than her, and make it a full-on black comedy.

[@aoikemono6414]

Considering movies about violent fictional terrorists make billions, this barely registers on the radar.

[@robothms9787]

@@paulgibbon5991 I actually really liked the movie, I don’t know why everyone says it smells of poop

[@derdenni6780]

@@robothms9787 becaus people have brains not like you

[@robothms9787]

@@derdenni6780 ok buddy

[@Jo-fk1be]

I love how they went from 9 year olds to 30 year olds in a ten year time jump😭

[@RoseETempest]

I am so glad he mentioned the freaking music. This movie had like 7 montages in it.

[@uncletrick1]

“She realizes the baroness killed her mom” “Oh, very rude” 🤣🤣🤣

[@DamienDrake2940]

This was really 4 movies in one. Starts as Little Orphan Anne, than becomes Devil Wears Prada, followed by just a splash of Oceans 11 and ends with Joker.

[@theunbalancedcharge2077]

My friend invited me to watch this and after I said it was just extreme Say Yes to the Dress

[@raistlinmajere7149]

Basiclly yeah your on point

[@TokyoBlue587]

“Let’s make a movie about a woman who murders puppies” “Why would we do that?” “Well she was a ridiculous villain in a Disney movie from decades ago.” “Oh, OK.”

[@captainmichaelstudios]

I saw the movie in theaters after I saw the pitch meeting, and when the mom was dropkicked off the cliff by the dogs, I burst out laughing. It was so funny.

[@charlesbronson2926]

This pitch meeting is the only reason I’m glad Cruela was made.

[@bongumusasibiya1772]

"Oh 200 Million Dollar reasons to make a KZbin parody video are tight"

[@GinEric84]

I'm still not glad it was made

[@Ad-xb7hk]

It's a good film though, many people who hated the sound of it liked it

[@eszterfodor1136]

No, we would have a better pitch meeting. There is no reason for this movie to exist.

[@_Stormfather]

@@Ad-xb7hk I actually thought the movie looked really good from the trailers, but it wasn't about Cruella DeVille, and I'm not going to watch it when it tries to claim that's what it's about

[@zestyoverlord6772]

“Well I’m a little disturbed to learn that perdida and pongo were related...”

[@GeeklyGoods]

Didn't even put that together until he said it xD

[@ablethreefourbravo]

I'm wondering when Roger and Anita became fat and mixed race.

[@cradiculous]

@@ablethreefourbravo My thoughts exactly. Some internet reviewers are going to have fun picking apart this movie.

[@Wriley_Katcoff]

Actually, in the book 101 dalmations, pongo is married to Missis, and when she has 15 puppies, they get a surragote mother to help her feed them milk, and that mother is perdita.

[@denisejohnson4037]

@@ablethreefourbravo Me too...

[@jennifermaclean4551]

You articulated all the problems I had with the movie better than I ever could. Pitch Meetings are TIGHT

[@CEAsfg]

Can't wait for the Baroness's origin story so that we feel sympathy for her too.

[@tekuaniaakab2050]

“So you have a movie for me?” “Yes sir i do, it’s Time: Origins: The Beginning” “Nice” “So in the beginning there was darkness, but then there was light...” “Oooo spooky, who turned on the lights?” “GOD” “Oh oh my god” “Exactly”

[@thespanishinquisition8617]

Perfect

[@revan1202]

Here's a blank check make it happen!

[@VitaminCBable]

Is it gonna be hard for this God character to make these things? No, it's going to be super easy! Barely an inconvenience!! And on top of all that, he's going to make people too, and tell them not to eat of the Tree of knowledge! But they do anyways, damning humanity! Whoops! Whoopsie!

[@gwenwalravens8030]

@@VitaminCBable Oh eating from the tree of knowledge is tight!

[@provoidcloak]

@@gwenwalravens8030 actually it ruins humanity’s paradise

[@chickendrawsdogs3343]

"Dropkicking Dalmatians are tight." - now that's a first for the history book.

[@GOldenPROdigy115]

I hate it whenever a Dalmatian randomly dropkicks me

[@TheBroadwayB]

😅🤣🤣

[@bodkimalone]

@@-TheShaun- you read my mind

[@1umbreon4life]

@@GOldenPROdigy115 really? Last time it happened to me it was the most exciting part of the week

[@aoikemono6414]

@@-TheShaun- Hate when the English language is so vague.

[@the4tierbridge]

5:57 because for some reason, Roger is her lawyer in this film, and it was pre-established in the original film that Anita and Cruella knew each other from when they we’re in elementary school, and this movie touches upon that a lot in the beginning.

[@skwisgarskwigelf7191]

My friends and I just saw this movie the other day. It was honesty better than I expected

[@SeanChandlerTalksAbout]

If that reported $200 million budget is correct, that's insane! The last two Spider-Man movies didn't cost that much.

[@Coolcoolcooldude]

They should have a limit on the budget to $101 million.

[@robintjong9261]

@@Coolcoolcooldude ahhh, limited budgets are tight

[@WL1264]

@@robintjong9261 it aint 200 its just 100

[@teneesh3376]

That's way too much money for a movie like this

[@yappaplay]

Emma Stone is expensive I guess

[@shadowoftime01]

“How does she have Hunger Games fire technology?” Killed me

[@phillewis2630]

And how did the flames not burn her hair even a little bit?

[@noelv1976]

Unclear

[@noelv1976]

@@phillewis2630 because he wrote it in the script

[@AlcoholicBoredom]

At least The Hunger Games is way in the future, but this is 40-something years before right now.

[@john-ericcervini3179]

I'm confused as to why you people don't understand what flash Paper, flash cotton, and flash string are. They have been around for decades and used in magic tricks constantly. How do you think magicians do it, actual magic?

[@DavidFerneau]

Ryan: "Man, it's probably gonna be tough to find something in Cruella to use my 'super easy, barely an inconvenience' line for my upcoming Pitch Meeting video." Parachute-skirt scene: "Actually..."

[@gouhdokhart168]

"Because name recognition will make people wanna come watch the movie" **Scream (2022) has entered the chat**