Scripture Interprets Itself: A Bible Mind Bender

[@mikemcgraw3806]

Rod, Ive been listening and watching your videos for over 3 years. You had under 2000 followers at the time I started following you. And I must say, this is probably one of the top 5 topics you’ve ever taught. Thank you

[@buckguide]

So glad you addressed this, so many souls are lost

[@davidhalcomb]

Excellent explanation of the figurative language and understanding of the language the Bible is written in. Thank you.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thanks, David! Rob

[@jessicabrock7646]

Thank you so much for this! I have been praying for ways to communicate with my husband and family about our current reality in Christ! My great grandmother followed Herbert w Armstrong as did her daughter, my father, and up until several years ago, I did too via a worldwide church of God offshoot. My husband was also raised in these groups and still does. I appreciate all that you do through your ministry!

[@randylundgren8421]

Well said.

[@kayemack2355]

Thanks for this study and insight I’m currently reading 2Samuel . I recently finished 1Samuel. Blessings to you

[@pictureel5863]

Excellent breakdown. A real pleasure and all backed up by great quotes Thanks!

[@marcinpaz4579]

God bless brother

[@KevinProkopich-h5w]

Very good professor thanks for the knowledge.

[@scottRatt]

Hallelujah

[@TheWayWalker]

I loved this one. Thank you 😊

[@kimartist]

I'm so glad you dealt with the issue of hyperbole & other figures of (poetic) speech in the Bible. Bblical writers are not to be held to 21st-century broadcast journalism standards (such as it is - some of those folks need to go back to school 🙄). Biblical authors were not writing newscasts after all. Using dramatic (even overly-dramatic) speech to describe an experience & especially the FEELING associated with an experience is perfectly legitimate & needs to be understood as such.

[@SDsc0rch]

: ) always brings a smile to my face to see a video from you!

[@mdcxi1611]

Amen

[@feliperodriguez4187]

👍❤️

[@enrstirkenen4773]

Hi Proffessor Solberg. Thank you so much for your videos, which have inspired me to make similar videos in Danish. I discovered recently that this stupid and dangerousTorah observant doctrine has entered Denmark, and consequently I decided to fight the good fight by making 5 videos, strongly inspired by you ;) Concerning your "mind bender" video I have always seen David's "exagerations" as Davids feelings and expressions, just like you interpret it, but I also see end time prophecies about Gods judgment upon the Antichrist and his followers in the end of days (the great tribulation). And let me give you an example: In psalm 46 David said that "we do not fear, when mountains are thrown into the sea, and the waves of the see are roaring" and etc. I believe Jesus picked that up, when he said, that the unjust should faint from fear in the end of days, because of the roaring of the sea. And this is confirmed when John tells us that he saw a burning mountain being thrown into the sea whereby the ships were wrecked and the water turned into blood, and so on.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thank you for joining the fight against false theologies! You make a great connection regarding the imagery of mountains being thrown into the sea. In Hebrew thinking, the sea represents chaos. Jesus teaches about the coming of the Son of Man: “And there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth distress of nations in perplexity because of the roaring of the sea and the waves, people fainting with fear and with foreboding of what is coming on the world. For the powers of the heavens will be shaken." (Luke 21:25-26) Gud velsigne dig, Rob

[@coreybray9834]

@enrstirkenen4773 14 hours ago Hi Proffessor Solberg. Thank you so much for your videos, which have inspired me to make similar videos in Danish. I discovered recently that this stupid and dangerousTorah observant doctrine has entered Denmark, and consequently I decided to fight the good fight by making 5 videos, strongly inspired by you ;) *Which part of the torah is it you think is stupid and dangerous there? Is it the words God spoke in torah that you find stupid and dangerous? It amazes me how easily Professor Solberg has gotten so many people to attack the primary foundation of the Bible itself. I don’t even think they realize just who they are waging war against. Of course, God invites the challenge though. In Isaiah 30 he makes it clear that when you progress from refusing to hear his law that you will eventually reach the point where you want the Holy One of Israel to cease from before you too. God calls what you are doing a rebellion that is for ever and ever. This is the same condition God addresses in Zechariah 37 that God calls a heart like an adamant stone, and is the condition God is trying to root out of the heart of his people in Ezekiel 11 and 36. So, I wouldn’t join Professor Solberg in attacking torah. It turns out that in Revelation 15 it is those who sing the song of Moses and the Lamb who get the victory and stand on the see of glass, not those who attack Moses and the torah he wrote. Don’t you people know Moses and Christ the Lamb are the two prophets of Deuteronomy 18? Isn’t it interesting that the beast wants to destroy two prophets of God too in Revelation 11? Good luck attacking torah. But, if you have a change of heart, try reading Isaiah 8:20 some time. Because God has already judged that those who proceed with that plan have no light in them and by verse 22 they will be driven into darkness. And verse 16 points out that what God is trying to accomplish is to bind up the testimony and seal the law among his disciples, because his law is his seal. Binding the law to the right hand and forehead is a practice originating in Deuteronomy 6, and it is an instruction God gave his people through Moses in anticipation of the protection they would need when it comes time for the beast to put its mark in the right hand and foreheads of people in Revelation 14. But, if you hate torah and you don’t want that protection of God’s seal , I am sure God will understand.

[@enrstirkenen4773]

@coreybray9834 It is the false doctrine which is stupid and dangerous. Stupid because the doctrine doesn't comprehend what it means that we are no longer under the law, even when it is expressed so clearly and repeatedly and underlined with multiple strong pictures like: "cast away the bond woman and her son..." Why then embrace the bond woman? And dangerous because Christians returning to the law is, as Paul said: entangled again with a yoke of bondage - Christ will profit you nothing - you have fallen from grace, and etc. These are clear warnings which are not hard to understand, unless someone is strongly manipulated. Who has bewitched you?

[@coreybray9834]

@@enrstirkenen4773 @enrstirkenen4773 16 hours ago @coreybray9834 It is the false doctrine which is stupid and dangerous. *So, then you believe God was giving false doctrine when he gave the law? You see, you keep attacking God, hoping I won’t notice, but I notice it implicitly, because you can’t hide your conditioned malice towards God, the same Malice God says Isaiah is writing a book about in Isaiah 30 that begins with folks like you who refuse to hear the law. You are just cementing into place that stony heart in Zechariah 7, not addressing that problem. But, that isn’t the correct direction to head in here.* Stupid because the doctrine doesn't comprehend what it means that we are no longer under the law, *To even say such a thing is a violation of God’s own test of light in Isaiah 8:20. God has already judged that such people have no light in them. This is why it is dangerous to make Paul your ultimate authority in such matters, rather than making God your ultimate authority. God is trying to seal his law among his disciples in Isaiah 8:16, not bring them out from under his law like Paul was sent into Christianity to do by the enemy. But, if you want to abandon God’s protective seal, that is your choice.* even when it is expressed so clearly and repeatedly and underlined with multiple strong pictures like: "cast away the bond woman and her son..." Why then embrace the bond woman? *So, is God then being stupid in your view when he sends the law forth from Zion again in Isaiah 2:1-5 and Micah 4:1-5? Because God achieves in that move something you antilaw Christians have failed to achieve throughout. He brings in global peace. Is all the nations ceasing to war with one another stupid in your view, would you rather the result of the sixth trumpet that kills off the third part of men with mass genecide, because that is what your brand of lawlessness breeds. Your idealism simply isn’t rational. And it wasn’t the bond woman who received the law, it was Isaac’s seed who received the law. Paul royally screwed that up too in Galatians 4. The question you should be asking is why did Paul remain silent in Acts 21 when he was being accused of rejecting Moses and the law? Why couldn’t Paul honestly admit that was precisely what he was doing, but mislead James and the others to believe he was still promoting the law? You have here exposed Paul as a fraud.* And dangerous because Christians returning to the law is, as Paul said: entangled again with a yoke of bondage *So, a man who says he has a “messenger of Satan” in 2Cor 12:7 tells you that God’s law is a law of bondage, contrary to God saying in Exodus 20:1-3 that he brought his people out of the house of bondage, and you bought Paul’s lies hook, line and sinker? Paul also insists he is a Pharisee, but Christ warns you to beware the doctrine of Pharisees in Matthew 16, because they will make you twice the child of hell than themselves in Matthew 23:15. But, I guess you believe Christ is too stupid to figure out what is what too, right? This is what is wrong with all you Paul worshippers these days. You have no clue who God is. Nor do you have any clue that Christ says man shall live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God in Matthew 4:4, many of his words you toss out when you reject the law. But, God said in Deuteronomy 13 that he would send in false prophets and such like Paul to test to see if you really love him. You were such an easy target for Paul too. What a tragedy. But, those who actually get the victory in Revelation 15 sing the song of Moses and the lamb who you are rejecting here, not the song of Paul and his messenger of Satan that you love.* - Christ will profit you nothing *Christ never supported Paul’s antilaw agenda, because Christ’s authority to preach is rooted in the law of Deuteronomy 18, being Christ is the other prophet like Moses, not opposed to Moses. Where does Christ ever say to stop circumcising in support of Paul in Galatians 5? You don’t know, do you? You never even checked, because you follow your other master Paul blindly. But, Didn’t Christ warn you that a man cannot serve two masters? Shouldn’t you be serving the Good Shepherd of John 10 instead, following the Lamb wheresoever he goes in Revelation 14 instead of following Paul to hell? I’m not afraid of Pauls abject retardation. Paul is meaningless to true Christians. He is only useful to the fake ones who have already rejected Christ. That is why you quote me Paul and not Christ here. Or, did you think I didn’t know the difference? As for Paul’s faulty position on circumcision in Galatians 5, you might want to check out the aftermath of that problem in Ezekiel 44, because God prophecied centuries ahead of time how Paul’s push to get the strangers (Gentiles) to not circumcised both pollutes the future temple and breaks the covenant as declared by God. So much for Paul’s “Yoke of bondage”. So, you might want to read Isaiah 24:5-6 if you don’t want to become a victim of the curse that devours the earth coming for those who have insisted on trampling all over God’s law.* - you have fallen from grace, and etc. *Did you ever take the time to look up that Christ never said man was saved by grace? That idea conveniently entered Christianity only after Christ ascended back to his Father. Paul said in Ephesians 2:8-9 that we are saved by grace through faith and not of works. Christ came back to these same Ephesians in Revelation 2, warning them explicitly to REPENT AND DO THE FIRST WORKS, the exact opposite of what Paul was teaching them. The Ephesians eventually rejected Paul, as did all of Asia according to Paul’s own admission in his epistles to Timothy. The province of Asia being where the seven churches of Revelation 1-3 reside. Christ opens his message to the church of Ephesus in Revelation 2 praising them for trying those who say they are apostles and are not, but are found to be liars. Why didn’t Christ rather rebuke them for rejecting Paul? Paul was a liar when he claimed to be an apostle. There are only twelve apostles of the lamb in Revelation 21, because there are only twelve thrones in Matthew 19 in the regeneration for the 12 apostles of the Lamb to rule from, and when Matthias replaced Judas in Acts 1, that made twelve, leaving no room for Paul who couldn’t even meet the conditions of being an apostle mentioned in Acts 1 by Paul’s own admission in 1Corrinthians 15, because he was too late to the party to be a witness of Christ’s ministry by his own admission as is required to be an apostle. Plus, Christ gave his true apostles power over all devils in Luke 9:1, Paul couldn’t get rid of his messenger of Satan in 2Cor12:7-10, proving he didn’t harbor the authority of an apostle either. Paul insisted that God told him God’s grace was sufficient for him instead of helping him get rid of his messenger of Satan. So, grace left Paul high and dry to suffer with a messenger of Satan. That is God’s way of letting Paul know his ideas about grace were not well thought out. So, if I am not a participant in Paul’s silly ideas of grace, I don’t see that as any kind of a meaningful loss. God’s more original ideas on grace in the Old Testament are so much more well founded before Paul twisted the concept to mean something it simply does not mean.* These are clear warnings which are not hard to understand, *But, they are warnings from a murderous, fallible man, not from Almighty God. It would help if you learned the difference. Like Lucifer was described by Christ in John 8:44, Paul too was a murderer from the beginning of his career as well breathing down slaughters on believers in Acts 9:1-3. You want a clear warning, Christ says if you keep following after Pharisees like Paul, rather than ensuring your righteousness is greater than Pharisees like Paul, then you will in no wise enter his kingdom as Christ clearly teaches in Matthew 5:20. And how exactly is a Pharisee like Paul going to enter the kingdom of God, and how is he going to get his messenger of Satan in? You haven’t thought things out that far ahead, have you?* unless someone is strongly manipulated. Who has bewitched you? *How is it being bewitched to follow the Good Shepherd of John 10? Don’t you know the sheep of Christ follow Christ, not mere hirelings and strangers? You chase after hirelings and strangers, because you have no clue who the Good Shepherd even is. When you learn who Christ is, you won’t have any use for frauds like Paul. When you learn who Christ truly is, the dangers that a compromised man like Paul with a messenger of Satan in 2Cor 12:7 poses will become so crystal clear to you it will make your head spin that you ever thought it was a good idea to flirt with the enemy like that. And do you know who is primary over Paul waging war on the law and those who follow the law? After the cross Christ came back to John in Revelation 12:17 and warned him that this war is headed up by Lucifer himself against the remnant. So, when you attack the law, you are joining Lucifer’s side of the war, not on God’s side of the war. I’m sorry if this is so abrupt and harsh sounding, but you have chosen the wrong side of the war effort. But, fortunately, there is still time to repent and find your way back under the protection of God’s law and seal before it is too late.

[@biblischerMinnegesang888]

I do not believe my eyes: I see Mary Magdalene behind you. Wow!

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Yes, I love that painting! It's from 1640, by George de la Tour. Rob

[@biblischerMinnegesang888]

@TheBiblicalRoots Is it coincidence that the Painter 's name is the same of Magdalene? De la Tour is the french word for from the Tower. Magdal is the hebrew word for Tower or Tour. The flock from Magdal Eder, the holy fields around Bethlehem where the holy sheep were pastured for sacrifice.

[@peterjennen99]

Jesus’ soul is the Father.

[@dwaynejohnson4662]

@2449 thats why the book of Revelation cant be faken literal as many do. Its symbolic, figurative and prophetic. Just like lots believe that God has a literal body but He doesn't as He has gas a spiritual one.

[@bybeeb17]

I’m new to rl solberg. Is he a post mill guy? Because i think post mill and a mill are the more accurate ways to interpret the Bible. And this video was definitely towards those views in my opinion.

[@BillyJack-vr5cp]

I certainly agree with you that the Bible Interprets itself as you say in the beginning. But that doesn't mean the Bible WATER DOWNS the Bible. When we get new information in one gospel account that is not in another, we don't assume that it didn't actually happen. 'In what sense is it true' is an Oxymoron. Also it is true that Anthropomorphism is in scripture, else we have Mormonism, but that doesn't mean to dismiss the truth of an actual event. Hyperbole is OBVIOUS exaggeration like a Log and a speck of sawdust. We shouldn't assume from the Judging story where Jesus uses a log contrasted to a speck that we should dismiss the literal message of how we shouldn't judge if we are much more guilty of sin than the one we are judging. Same with the call no man 'Rabbi' lesson in Matthew 23. This is not hyperbole because Jesus gives His actual logical reasons for saying not to give certain religious titles to spiritual leaders (Mt. 23:7-9) We still have that problem today from Spiritual leaders that gullible sheep think have a special relationship with God. Also the Whole Body of Christ is based on equal interaction, not just lectures. Truth is that the smoke out of His nostrils would CONTRADICT scripture elsewhere, so we know that is Anthropomorphism but what it says about what happens to the earth would be a lie if we say, in what sense is it true and dismiss such an event because there is no historical evidence of it outside scripture (which isn't letting the Bible interpret itself). We have no historical evidence that the Children of Israel were in Egypt as slaves either. This line of reasoning leads to the Bart Ehrmans and the Jesus Seminar that dismiss large portions of scripture based on the same reasoning.

[@H0n3yc0mb7]

Can we then apply the same framework to miracles purported in the Bible? What do we do when our “modern fact-checking” doesn’t allow the parting of the Red Sea to hold up? Elijah on Mt Carmel? Etc I understand your point, and while it holds true in many places, I’m not sure if any of us have the wherewithal to apply it correctly. What if David DID get a glimpse into heavenly interactions and we write it off as hyperbolic metaphor erroneously? What if God was trying to speak to me in such a way, but I didn’t give Him a second thought. I understand it’s likely a “case-by-case” basis, I just don’t understand how the metric stands up to scrutiny, and I’ve heard the same metric given time and time again by those who have fallen away as the impetus.

[@peterjennen99]

John 12:31, “Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.” Revelation 12:9-12, “And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.” This is when the harvest started. This is when the great tribulation started. These things, along with salvation by faith in Jesus, end at the sounding of the 7th trumpet. A this time the millennial sacrifices will resume, as depicted in the latter chapters of Ezekiel.

[@GladysRWhite]

Min 18:12, it is not a poetic license. He had visions! God granted David visions of Him! David did not imagine it.

[@Adrian_Mason]

The picture behind you. Is she holding a skull? What is the picture of? I realise it could be a green screen image, but I am still curious.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Yes, she has a skull on her lap. That’s a painting from 1640 by George de La Tour called “Magdalene with a Smoking Flame.” It is his rendition of Mary Magdalene contemplating her conversion from a life of sin to Christ. It’s a beautiful painting with lots of symbolism that really moves me. The artist actually made three different paintings of Mary Magdalene in similar poses: marcjsims.com/2022/09/19/art-explained-the-repentant-magdalene/ Rob

[@dwaynejohnson4662]

@3036 all.people means all types of peoples ethnically the elect not every individual as there was a thief on the cross that was and one that wasn't. Its says We know that we are of God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one. - 1 John 5:19 Well if were in Christ the evil no longer has power over us as Jesus the strong man has overcome him. But no one can enter the strong man’s house and plunder his property unless he first binds the strong man, and then he will plunder his house. - Mark 3:27

[@jobjoseph1815]

Thank you Prof. I really enjoy this video! I am glad the way God is taking you closer everyday to the reality of context reading the scriptures. May be one day you will make another video about Peter's vision in Acts 10 to tell your audience that the vision is not about eating unclean things but about reaching out to the Gentiles. I am amazed for how you consider context here but refuse to consider Context in Acts 10 and many other passages.... I am sure God will reveal to you that you were wrong about Peter's vision and you will consider editing that video for His GLORY and the edification of your audience.... Shalom!

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thanks, Job. Here's our study on the proper context for Peter's vision in Acts 10: *Peter's vision explained: How people and food are linked in the Torah* kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZmsoWuZiriGnpo Rob

[@dwaynejohnson4662]

Jesus xtood in front of the minora which was symbolic of God's light to them tgat was to be kept lit 24/7. Jesus applies it to Himself as the spirityal true light opposed to the false light of the religious people of His time.

[@gotonowhere1]

😅😅perfect... let no man decieved you.. no one in this age has better interpretation.. let the bible interpret itself.. let Jesus taught you.

[@harryabrahams2770]

1 John 3:7..Little children, let no one deceive you, the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous..verse 8 ..the one who practices sin is of the devil…no hidden meaning here…same understanding, now or 2,000 years ago…those who do the work of righteousness ( Torah ) are righteous…those who do the works of unrighteousness ( Lawlessness, sin ) do the works of the adversary..Got Torah Got Truth

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hi, Harry! I teach and believe that obedience to God is of utmost importance for believers. We are to submit to His authority over our lives. Jesus said, “If you love me, you will keep my commandments” (John 14:15). I’m sure you would agree that not every command God has given applies to every person at all times. Some only apply to certain people (i.e., men, women, parents, Levitical priests) or at certain times (i.e., building an ark, gathering manna, while in exile). And I’m sure you would also agree that we are each only expected to keep the commands of God that apply to us. The NT expressly teaches that many of the commands given under the Old Covenant Law do not apply to Christians today. (ex. Repeated blood sacrifices for sin are no longer required (Heb 10:18).) We still serve God and obey His commands, “But now we are released from the law, having died with Christ to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code” (Rom 7:6). And “If you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law: (Gal. 5:18). Blessings, Rob

[@harryabrahams2770]

@@TheBiblicalRoots Galatians 5:18..” Led by the SPIRIT “is referring to the TORAH because it is Spiritual..” not under the law “ is referring to man made laws…verse 19.. “ deeds of the flesh “ …reject the instructions of YHVH and walk in the traditions of men is IDOLATRY..Got Torah Got Truth

[@harryabrahams2770]

@@TheBiblicalRoots Hebrews 10:14…For by ONE OFFERING He ( Yehoshua )has perfected for ALL TIME those who are BEING SANCTIFIED…being sanctified is a continual process of obedience to HIS TORAH.. He REDEEMED us from the curse of Law…which is death..He CANNOT be crucified again.. Verse 18:…continue in sin ( transgression of the law ) the curse still applies…that is why some will go from death to death..Got Torah Got Truth

[@R0CK-c9g]

HEY GUYS LOVE YOUR CHANNEL BUT IF THE BIBLE CAM INTERPRET ITSELF. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE CRUCIFIED YESHUA .. IF THE BIBLE CAN SAVE ANYONE. WOULDN'T U THINK THE BIBLE WOULD SAVE THE SON OF FREAKING GOD ? CHALLENGE ME PLEASE SOMEONE.. SAY IT

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hey Rock. The phrase "the Bible interprets itself" simply refers to those cases where something written in one part of the Bible is interpreted in a different part of the Bible. It doesn't always happen, but when it does we need to pay attention because we can learn a whole lot. Also, if the Bible "saved" the Son of God, salvation would not be available to you and I. It was HIs death and resurrection that defeated sin and death. Jesus "gave himself for our sins to rescue us from the present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father" (Gal. 1:4). "God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God" (2 Cor. 5:21). Blessings, Rob

[@glennlanham6309]

Then why do you have a preacher? Sola Scriptura is untenable. As proof, you dont practice it, or you would get rid of all your pastors and bible scholars.

[@R0CK-c9g]

You have a brain you have giving me hope. Keep being u

[@kimartist]

That's not what Sola Scriptura means.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hi Glenn. _Sola Scriptura_ simply means that Scripture is our ultimate authority in matters of faith and salvation. It's not our *only* authority. But all other sources of authority-preachers, teachers, tradition, etc.-must ultimately submit to Scripture. Rob

[@tbishop4961]

Let scripture interpret "itself"? Yikes🤦‍♂️😂

[@marty5822]

Apparently, all of those hundreds of scribes turned out to be completely unnecessary. Who'd have thought.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Exactly. Let the words of David (Ps 18) interpret the text of Samuel (1 Sam 18-27). Rob

[@tbishop4961]

@@TheBiblicalRoots the content of your video here had some interesting ideas. "Scripture interpreting itself" isn't one of them. Samuel isn't the Psalms. They weren't written by the same person and you can't interpret one with the other. You can COMPARE word use, but you aren't interpreting anything at all. You're negotiating the meaning to support your point of view

[@R0CK-c9g]

Love this dude. He is right

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

@@tbishop4961 Hi, T. When I use the phrase "the Bible interprets itself," I'm simply referring to those cases where something written in one part of the Bible is interpreted in a different part of the Bible. And the fact that they weren't written by the same person is key! It doesn't always happen, but when it does we need to pay attention because we can learn a whole lot. Blessings, Rob

[@sundownsam]

The Scriptures does not interpret itself; God was clear the first time he sport. Man interprets and distorts the Scriptures according to their own interpretation.

[@R0CK-c9g]

Your fucking correct man. Right on. Bro. Yeah!

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hi, Sam. The phrase "the Bible interprets itself" simply refers to those cases where something written in one part of the Bible is interpreted in a different part of the Bible. It doesn't always happen, but when it does, we need to pay attention because we can learn a whole lot. Blessings, Rob

[@sundownsam]

​​@@R0CK-c9gWith all du😅e respect, I would appreciate if you respond without profanity.

[@sundownsam]

Like I said, God spoke clear and allowed it to be written for us to understand and it is the Spirit of God that enlightens our minds to understand the relationship between two passages. I go into the Scriptures not to interpret the Scriptures but for God to enlighten me with the truth of his word. You interpret it you will distort it.

[@coreybray9834]

Ah, but Professor, if you open the can of worms of saying that prophetic language should not be taken literally, then someone clever is going to assault your foundation with your own reasoning here, arguing that you are being overly literal when you insist there is a New Covenant that replaces the Old Covenant: one of those ideas expressed in prophecy, you see, shrowded in metaphoric language which may not represent a real event as your expectations were hoping was the case. Or, would you rather your critics not take you for a ride like that with your own line of reasoning here? Okay, but if you argue christ’s closest followers did not understand the events Christ was fulfilling, how then can we be sure that more distant individuals from Christ’s inner circle, like Paul and the author of Hebrews, had everything so expertly figured out? Again, you hand your critics the axe to take to the root of your tree here, Professor. And if Paul and the author of Hebrews were not clear on these matters of prophecy, they may have done far more harm to the law and Old covenant than they had the right to do. That might help to clarify why god is so upset over how his law is being abused in Isaiah 24:5-6, and the curse that he says is coming to devour the earth because of it. And Ezekiel 44 may now be even more influencial in its scope, seeing God is complaining about the strangers his people brought into his restored Davidic temple that are uncircumcised. He says they caused both a pollution and breaking of the covenant. And this may indicate as you suggest that those involved in Acts 15 didn’t know what they were tampering with when they decided to take it upon themselves to cease the required practice of circumcision among the Gentiles. It’s all so clear now, they were confused and not clear on what god was trying to Prophetically tell them and warn them about centuries in advance. They even misunderstood that God wanted the strangers to embrace his Sabbath and Covenant in Isaiah 56, but they hindered that outcome by ceasing circumcision which was a covenant requirement. So, it is no wonder god is so upset in Ezekiel 44 over the uncircumcised strangers polluting his temple and breaking his covenant. And if he requires them to be circumcised, this would indicate that Isaiah 56 is not talking about the New Covenant, but God was trying to bring the strangers in under the Old Covenant. Boy did Christianity really screw that one up royally. And the last four verses of Isaiah 56 says the leaders and sheperds would completely screw things up too. Amazing how accurately God understood in advance how the church would screw up on that front. As for your questions: Was the world judged at Christ’s first coming? It is first important to note that the world may undergo multiple judgments before the prophecies are finished. And with that in mind, Christ’s time on the cross did result in the graves being opened, and some individuals being resurrected. So, what if god judged that some individuals who were resurrected at that time could be redeemed from the earth from among men at that time as those speaking in Revelation 5 admit to being true in their case? Let’s call this the firstfruit harvest of Barley, seeing Christ came to fulfill the Spring Levitical feasts at his first coming. And we shouldn’t confuse this with the judgement Christ refers to in Revelation 19 that takes place at his second coming. As for the ruler of this world being cast out, Christ is not necessarily saying he was cast out of the world. He was more likely talking about the events of Revelation 12 when Lucifer (the accuser of the brethren) was cast out of heaven down to the earth. When Lucifer lost against Christ at the cross, he lost right to have access to heaven. But, he didn’t want to go silently which is why a war broke out between Michael andh his angels and the Dragon andh his angels. But,the Dragon was cast into the earth. That is why Christ said in the gospels that he saw Lucifer fall like lightning. He wasn’t being cast out of the earth, but out of heaven. This is why Revelation 12 tells those in heaven to rejoice, but woe was pronounced on the earth because the Devil had come down to us shortly after Christ’s ascending back to his Father in Revelation 12. And Christ has been drawing all men to him ever since the cross. He has to, he is our High Priest and sole intercessor. Plus, Christianity has been gaining converts and filling the earth ever since the crucifixion of Christ as a result of the gospel message going forth to all the nations as Christ instructed in Matthew 28; thus, fulfilling the prophecy of Daniel 2 concerning how the kingdom of God would be established in Christ’s day and fill the earth. Christianity was that kingdom, and that kingdom has been growing to fill the earth like a great mountain, and when Christ returns, Isaiah 2:1-5 speaks of how God’s mountain will dwell in the tops of the mountains. Today, Christianity is by far the largest religion on our planet with somewhere between 2.1 and 2.4-billion people who call themselves Christians world wide and still growing. The Muslims come in second and the Hindus come in a distant third. So, the prophecies have been true concerning all these matters, Professor. We are just waiting for the rest of Isaiah 2:1-5 to be fulfilled when the law goes forth from Zion again, God rebukes the nations and the nations learn war no more: an achievement that the vast majority of antilaw Christians have never been able to achieve. But, when the law goes forth from zion, God will finally bring our planet back under his law and order, putting to rest all this antiMoses nonsense that so many people in Christianity are teaching today. I can’t wait to hear the Christians belly ache when God in Zechariah 14 requires them to keep Tabernacles. Let’s see if they tell God that Levitical feast was done away with at the cross and see if they refuse to keep it. Let’s see if they will risk the severe punishments God has in store for those who refuse to comply. Okay, Professor, Christ didn’t say the world would necessarily undergo “final judgment” from where you are quoting there, so let’s not get ahead of ourselves. There are many judgements in the Bible. And Lucifer is down here causing trouble, because he was cast out of heaven, not out of the earth. Just read Revelation 12, it clears the matter up. Lucifer will be dealt with again two times more in Revelation 20. So, Lucifer will suffer many defeats before God resolves the rebellion Lucifer has entangled our planet within. You don’t seem to realize there are three major times in prophecy when the statement “It is finished” or “It is done” is pronounced. The cross was the first time this pronouncement went forth and it indicated Christ fulfilled his first mission and defeated Lucifer on the cross. The next time “It is done” is pronounced is in the seventh plague of Revelation. It is stated out of the temple in heaven right before Babylon is given the cup of punishment. So, Lucifer and his agencies will suffer another defeat when Christ judges the world at that time as well, and that isn’t a final judgment either. And the final major event where God says “It is done” is in Ezekiel 39 when God is completing the prophecies at the battle of Gog and Magog, declaring the day he has been looking forward to which brings an end to Lucifer, the wicked and sin while at the same time fully vindicating the Godhead and god’s great name. That would more appropriately indicate the time for a final judgement in line with the closing verses of Revelation 20. Christ is talking about the light, because he is the light of the world who was presently with them and would be with them until he ascended back to his Father. He is the light of the world, because he lived and taught properly in accordance with the law, demonstrating he could pass the test of Isaiah 8:20. This is why he warned us to not think he was coming to destroy the law. He couldn’t be called the light of the world if he had come to destroy the law. If he had destroyed the law, he would have failed the test of Isaiah 8:20. So, when Christians paint Christ as abolishing any part of the law,they are openly attacking his status as the light of the world. This is why he preserved every jot and tittle of the law until all was fulfilled. And not all of the law was fulfilled back at the cross. Case in point, Deuteronomy 30 speaks of the gathering of the people from the ends of heaven which doesn’t occur until Christ returns and the trumpet is blown to gather the people from the ends of heaven in Matthew 24. So, when people argue that Christ fulfilled the entire law at the cross, they reject a clear teaching of Christ in Matthew 24 which speaks to the contrary. Well, Professor, you might want to reformulate your idea of not taking prophecy literally. Even if the language is metaphoric in its presentation, there must still be a literal aspect to the prophecies actual fulfillment, else there would be no clear way to tell if a prophecy has fulfilled or come to pass. And that would negatively reflect on God’s character if he gives a prophecy and it doesn’t come to pass. There are many so called Psychics who are also unable to make their predictions come to pass, and are we going to suggest God is no better or reliable than them? Because God says clearly in Isaiah 55 that his word will not return to him void, but it will accomplish the thing whereunto he sends it, suggesting that god is staking his reputation on all his prophecies coming to pass.

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Thanks, Corey. Out of respect for your time, I want to remind you that I rarely read posts of more than ~250 words. It's just a matter of time management for me. I did read your first paragraph, however. If someone wants to challenge that the new covenant prophecy is only "new" in a metaphorical sense, they are certainly free to do so. My response would be threefold: First, the prophecy in Jeremiah 31:31-34 does not use apocalyptic language. Second, there are a number of non-prophetic passages in the NT that help to interpret the new covenant prophecy. Third, here's why I believe it is truly new: *What's "New" About the New Covenant?* kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGS9fZ6wgJygpsU Blessings, Rob

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@@TheBiblicalRoots @TheBiblicalRoots 5 hours ago Thanks, Corey. Out of respect for your time, I want to remind you that I rarely read posts of more than ~250 words. It's just a matter of time management for me. *Not a problem, Professor rob. I often write to speak to a broader audience than the person I am addressing in these communities.* I did read your first paragraph, however. If someone wants to challenge that the new covenant prophecy is only "new" in a metaphorical sense, they are certainly free to do so. My response would be threefold: First, the prophecy in Jeremiah 31:31-34 does not use apocalyptic language. *Does it need to? It is prophetic, and prophetic language is often perceived as figurative and metaphoric by nonliteralists, right? But, if we are now pulling back in the above regard, one could argue that Ezekiel 40-48 is not all that apocalyptic in its intended use of language either, so that could easily convey the sacrifices that are coming are quite literal in scope. And Ezekiel 44 does complain about the problem of Gentiles not being circumcised which does relate to the very literal issue of Acts 15 where the source of that problem most likely finds its origins. But, I had a hunch that you would treat Jeremiah 31 more literally, because that chapter of prophecy is a chapter you feel supports your preferred view.* Second, there are a number of non-prophetic passages in the NT that help to interpret the new covenant prophecy. *The problem is that in your video, you challenged how well the people in the New Testament understood prophetic matters when you brought up the example of Christ riding into Jerusalem on a donkey, for example. If you insist his own inner circle of followers were struggling to understand what was going on, how much more of a problem would that be for those who came later like Paul and the author of Hebrews who did not walk with Christ like Peter, John and others did? So,your own video objects to your point above far more seriously than you realize. Because you convinced people that their commentary might not be born of genuine understanding when you opened that can of worms.

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​@@coreybray9834 Respectfully, Corey, are you arguing just to argue? You're taking your claims _ad absurdum_ by insinuating that I teach that 100% of all prophetic language must be taken metaphorically, and therefore, the NT apostles misunderstood 100% of the prophecies that unfolded in front of them and, therefore, that's a huge problem for Paul's writings. Yet, anyone who watched this video with even a half-open mind understands that's not what I said. Even the passage I shared from John 12 shows that while the disciples missed the prophetic prophecy about the donkey when it happened, they realized it later, after the Resurrection. Yes, "prophetic language is often perceived as figurative and metaphoric," especially when it contains apocalyptic language and imagery and/or dramatic symbolism. But it's not a 100% application. Prophetic passages can also include more direct language. Each passage needs to be taken in its own context. I take Jer. 31:31-34 more literally because it lacks apocalyptic language/imagery and dramatic symbolism and because of how the NT interprets it. Rob

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@@TheBiblicalRoots @TheBiblicalRoots 8 hours ago @coreybray9834 Respectfully, Corey, are you arguing just to argue? *Respectfully, you seem rather defensive by starting your post with that question, like you know you screwed something up and you hope that if you redirect the focus on me, the screw up won’t be so noticeable. LOL!* You're taking your claims ad absurdum by insinuating that I teach that 100% of all prophetic language must be taken metaphorically, *Does this statement sound Like I am insinuating that you teach that 100% of prophetic language must be taken metaphorically? “But, I had a hunch that you would treat Jeremiah 31 more literally, because that chapter of prophecy is a chapter you feel supports your preferred view.” Maybe you missed that comment of mine in your haste.* and therefore, the NT apostles misunderstood 100% of the prophecies that unfolded in front of them *It doesn’t matter if they misunderstood 1% or 100% of the prophecies. Either way, they weren’t infallible, and therein resides the greater problem that cannot be ignored here. You opened that can of worms for us, Professor. And it will be difficult to close that door after opening it.* and, therefore, that's a huge problem for Paul's writings. *Paul himself admits it is a huge problem for Paul. Here it is in Paul’s own words, if you can bring yourself to hear it. Because Paul here makes a rather open admission to the limitations of his understanding of things, which I find to be more honest than defenders of Paul tend to want to recognize it as being. 1Co 13:9 - For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. Note the use of the word “we” above, Paul is putting himself in the targeted focus of this comment as much as his reader, admitting that his knowledge is “in part”, not “absolute”. Then he explains that he has not achieved perfection of knowledge yet as is clearly being implied in the next verse. 1Co 13:10 - But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. Oh, so Paul’s knowledge will remain “in part” until that which is perfect comes to do away with his partial understanding. But, maybe Paul has already ascended to the realm of perfect knowledge? One can hope, right? Unfortunately, Paul has more admissions to share with us in the verses that follow which suggests otherwise. 1Co 13:11 - When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. But, are people who grow up now perfect in their understanding just because they have grown a little beyond a childish state? It’s a nice sounding pipe dream, but the reality is that even when adults put away childish things, there is still a lot they simply do not know. And this is true even as it concerns spiritual matters, prophecies, doctrinal issues and the like. So, not wanting to say something that would be hard even for Paul to swallow, Paul concludes the following: 1Co 13:12 - For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. “Now I know in part”! Paul is speaking for himself there individually. So, Paul now knows in part, meaning he was still struggling to understand things. That is a bit of honesty on Paul’s part I can certainly buy into being the case. But, when others like you push his every word and act as though it was the infallible word of God or the undeniable gospel truth, I find such confidence to be unwarranted and misplaced. That is especially the case after Paul had the audacity to ask death where its sting was. Death had the last laugh in that engagement and Paul is dead today, suggesting he made a grave miscalculation there: a consequence of only having partial knowledge by his own admission above. So, when you opened the door to calling people in the New Testament into question concerning how much they actually understand about prophecies and such, who could resist such an invitation to question the depth of understanding of individuals like Paul and the author of Hebrews from the springboard you willingly provided? Because if it turns out that their understanding of the Old and New Covenants isn’t all that accurate, then many of the videos you have put forth could crumble like a poorly constructed house of cards under the weight of such a discovery. So, to answer your original question. I don’t argue just to argue, Professor. I’ve been sniffing around the substructure of the logic you have been employing for some time now, only this time you made the mistake of opening this particular can of worms. But, I don’t think you anticipated how easily someone could turn your argument around and use it to bring Paul and the author of Hebrews into serious question as has been done here and threaten a lot of which you hold dear with your own ideas in hand.*

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@@TheBiblicalRoots Solberg: Yet, anyone who watched this video with even a half-open mind understands that's not what I said. *Perhaps, but how is that helping you here?* Even the passage I shared from John 12 shows that while the disciples missed the prophetic prophecy about the donkey when it happened, they realized it later, after the Resurrection. *That’s fine, it simply suggests that people in the New Testament that lack understanding in certain areas potentially have the capacity to improve their understanding later. I don’t dispute that is the case. That is how people even today learn and improve their understanding too. And there may be many things they still didn’t understand even after the resurrection. Welcome to the notion of Present Truth. A person can only know what they presently have the capacity to know, which is probably why Peter made the following statement: 2Pe 1:12 - Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the present truth. Notice, Peter wasn’t asking people to be established in truth they had no genuine grasp of, because Present Truth is something that increases with time. And once that cat is out of the bag, it opens the door to the realization that people like Paul who admit to understanding things “in part” may not have as complete of an understanding of how things are as you and others might hope. In fact, they misunderstood many things about the New Covenant-especially its timing. God doesn’t even give his people a new heart until Christ returns and gathers his people back into their own land in Ezekiel 36. And trying to write his law, under the New Covenant, in man’s heart will never work if man still has a stony heart, because that would create a fundamental conflict between man’s stony heart and the New Covenant. God defines a stony heart in Zechariah 7 as a refusal to hear the law. So, how would God write his law in the hearts of the vast majority of Christians who still reject the law? And if we are under the New Covenant, how is it that you and so many others are teaching people to know God in open contradiction to Jeremiah 31:34 that explicitly teaches that will not be going on under the New Covenant, because everyone will already know God.*