Second Life Player STOLE Their Art for AI...

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@redscenery
@redscenery 7 ай бұрын
Those kind of people who blatantly lie without even hiding it really think we are that dumb 😂
@christopherkamph9147
@christopherkamph9147 7 ай бұрын
As someone who has been on and off secondlife for the last 15+ years, i can sadly confirm, they do. And theres not a single sane person in there, its all fun and games untill someone snaps, mental tbh.
@KiB_KiRi
@KiB_KiRi 7 ай бұрын
@@christopherkamph9147 No, definitely not... I don't know what experiences you have experienced in Second Life... there are a lot of shitty people there like there are on every street in every city on this rotten planet... but in Second Life there are also a lot of people who work and make a living creatively, honestly and without screwing or stealing from anyone
@ruddiko
@ruddiko 7 ай бұрын
Second life creeps have stolen my shit and sold them countless times they are pond scum
@jcvastgoed1490
@jcvastgoed1490 7 ай бұрын
You are that dumb .
@iAmNothingness
@iAmNothingness 7 ай бұрын
All liars think this way.😂
@aalice-Animation
@aalice-Animation 7 ай бұрын
The way it looks so embarrassingly fake, it’s crazy how people will so obviously steal something and then try to deny it like what 😭
@galacticgremlin
@galacticgremlin 7 ай бұрын
As a Second Life content creator, we do NOT claim this girl, holy shit. We are actively fighting against people like this. The whole of Second Life does NOT do this 😭😭😭
@squidpaladin
@squidpaladin 7 ай бұрын
THIS
@Kasa_Unknown723
@Kasa_Unknown723 7 ай бұрын
I'm the 130th like
@chrissyskydancer
@chrissyskydancer 7 ай бұрын
iam shocked - thanks to katliente also to give second life the right spot light
@hodgepodge3D
@hodgepodge3D 7 ай бұрын
Literally sobbing on this. ;__;
@lilydraconis1430
@lilydraconis1430 7 ай бұрын
Oh wow, yeah I'm a SL user as well and AI art is frowned upon.
@tetiana3905
@tetiana3905 7 ай бұрын
Hiii SchleepyBunny/TheSleepiestBun here! Oh my god thank you from the bottom of my heart 😭😭😭!!! You’re so sweet I watched the whole thing and will share it so you get more views!! And yeah my hands SUCK haha 🫶🏻
@tetiana3905
@tetiana3905 7 ай бұрын
oh no I used the wrong acc to comment sORRY!! anyways thank you again🫶🏻
@Periwinkle_hamster027
@Periwinkle_hamster027 7 ай бұрын
Do you have any art proof? ^~^/gen
@Amu-chanVT
@Amu-chanVT 6 ай бұрын
@@tetiana3905 your art is amazing
@fsxvhd
@fsxvhd 5 ай бұрын
@@Periwinkle_hamster027 what even is this question lmfao
@Periwinkle_hamster027
@Periwinkle_hamster027 5 ай бұрын
@@fsxvhd im asking if they have proof, just 2 be sure because alot of people lie so thats why im asking :p
@demometalico
@demometalico 7 ай бұрын
Sending hates toward people that steal artworks, and put in into AI to create their own "work" is not only ethical, but it's also required. They need to learn that art is labor of love, and people put many hours into those art pieces.
@esmentiras
@esmentiras 7 ай бұрын
thank you lucio overwatch we all say in unison
@hagardeviking9314
@hagardeviking9314 5 ай бұрын
Ethical... Oooo Bro what a big word ! SL is not the place to be ethical right... the whole world is theft
@3emad.305
@3emad.305 7 ай бұрын
I agree that there's no REAL original ideas. But i know the difference between stealing someone's work and creativity.
@lespectator4962
@lespectator4962 6 ай бұрын
Why do people have this belief? We invent things we never thought possible before all the time, so everything is a derivative of what came before?
@3emad.305
@3emad.305 6 ай бұрын
@@lespectator4962 I was mainly talking about creative works. But probably it doesn't hold up in other aspects lol
@lespectator4962
@lespectator4962 6 ай бұрын
@@3emad.305 Even ideas for creative works have to start from someone, and ideas by themselves are not worth much. It's the execution of that idea that really defines it's success and displays the ingenuity of the person pursuing it, this is why we can still call a work that borrows ideas from someone else original. Everyone can understand the same idea, but not everyone will act upon it the same way.
@3emad.305
@3emad.305 6 ай бұрын
@@lespectator4962 when i said real original ideas, that’s exactly what i meant. As ideas can go you still got it from someone else at some point in your life. But ones work doesn’t have to be 100% new and all to be considered original. Unless you’re repeating something that was done and not improved on it, then that’s not original.
@hagardeviking9314
@hagardeviking9314 5 ай бұрын
the only creation was made by the photographer, the rest was unauthorized theft
@theplayfuldrafen
@theplayfuldrafen 7 ай бұрын
Secondlife Artist here, Textures mostly, even we look down on this kind of this thing. We hate AI art, and copybotters, We find an avatar or skin that is ripped we will put somebody on blast for it. So for somebody to come in and go, "Yeah all SL artists do this." no we do not, a lot of us actually hand paint or take time to hand create our avatars or textures from the tiniest pixel.
@squidpaladin
@squidpaladin 7 ай бұрын
Exactly, thank you. The way this person tried to make it sound like ALL of the SL content creation community steal and rip and use AI to an audience they knew wasn't all SLifers... Gross. Don't use people like you and me as a shield for being a shitty and unoriginal person. It would have been one thing if she got inspo from Bunny's art and then went and found the clothes and accessories in SL as well as the furniture and decorations to do a similar or inspired photoshoot. That would have been fine. Especially if she put some thought from her own creative mind into changing the scene and posing.
@theplayfuldrafen
@theplayfuldrafen 7 ай бұрын
@@squidpaladin Oh Absolutly, The furniture would look super cute in SL, maybe the outfits if they fit all the body types that SL has spat out over the years. A photo shoot would do wonders to ones Secondlife Wallet. I agree, To take Insperation is one thing, But to go and do the Merging or even AI, is an insult to SL artists who often time Quite litterally have their Job be SL, Like most of their money comes from Secondlife.
@katnchat
@katnchat 7 ай бұрын
yeah omg it's so weird they tried to group everyone together as a monolith ;-;
@PirateBob711
@PirateBob711 6 ай бұрын
@@squidpaladin After all this time Linden Lab still hasn't fixed copybot? That is insane.
@catherinefitzpatrick1403
@catherinefitzpatrick1403 6 ай бұрын
SL blogger here with my real name, unlike all of you. I make textures using MidJourney with I use to make freebies mostly, and ads for rentals, but occasionally sell, and make...let me think...I believe 17 cents. Right. That's how much this stuff is worth in a secondary market. Have a problem? Send me a DMCA notice and I will honour it -- or even a simple IM -- if you see your work actually copied per say (most examples don't work like the ones in this KZbin). Good luck doing that! It's not so simple. Hate AI art all you like; the solutions are complex and it is unstoppable.
@GlazedBunny
@GlazedBunny 7 ай бұрын
As person who used to and occasionally still uses Second life, this news doesn't shock me. Second Life can be a wonderful place to build friendships and so much more BUT most (like 50%-60%) of the places and people I've met there are sooo toxic and just horrid people. I have friends that are bloggers on there and get paid to do art with their Avatars just to get their work stolen non stop, please be safe my dudes. I agree, second life is the next step from IMVU just more "Adult". Many People do art with their own avatars and it can come out looking stunning! I don't believe ALL second life does it but some do.
@AvelierPlays
@AvelierPlays 7 ай бұрын
@@ForestBeingHelena Most people Ive met are really nice and friendly and that is with a 15 year experience on the platform. I'm sorry some of you have had bad experiences but that isn't SL's fault, that is people and people can be horrible anywhere.
@stephanieamare
@stephanieamare 6 ай бұрын
I think that's the problem, though. SL never used to be like what it is now, and I signed up 17 years ago with a 4 years break in between. But a lot of people I met since coming back, I all hear the same thing--IMVU. I never knew that thing existed when I signed up to SL, and anyone who was toxic there just brings it over to SL. One of my SL partners came from IMVU, and after knowing my lil' circle, kind of just distanced herself from her old IMVU friends because of that. I tend to just spread different vibes, and teach others photography or other things. I am a blogger but also value my time, so I'm not one of those people with like 30+ sponsors. I have like, 6, so I can get time to have fun and actually meet people as well as do more "fun" photos. So just want to make it clear that, in my 4 years, and knowing other bloggers. We don't necessarily get paid in money, it's more like an exchange--we're given products by content creators to essentially be influencers. But we're paying out of our own pockets for things like Flickr Pro, Photoshop (unless some people go to the high seas) most of the time. But yeah, I've had work stolen and re-uploaded with no credit--it sucks. I don't do green screen work, I spend hours building a scene, figuring out a pose (without references) and outfits, then editing...for some butthole to come along and do that.
@pinkmercy9592
@pinkmercy9592 7 ай бұрын
The way I ran and followed the artist mid video.. their art is so so pretty and soft, I am in love 🥹🩷
@HAXNTEDD
@HAXNTEDD 2 ай бұрын
9:34 it's so clear that it's ai plus the bed under the girl is like shaped as if where she's laying is cut down and lowered. Like imagine putting a cloth over a couch and sitting between the arm rests
@GlassesnMouthplates
@GlassesnMouthplates 7 ай бұрын
11:43 You can see the reflection is of the same cat chilling at the window on the left of the original artwork. I like how A.I.-generated images kinda behave like vampires or shapeshifting entities when it comes to casting their reflections on mirrors.
@squidpaladin
@squidpaladin 7 ай бұрын
As a Second Life user, believe me there's a lot of us that hate this. Morphing IS art theft. If they like those people's art so much, they could commission them for art of their SL avatar, but instead they steal shit. Its pretty rampant, but a good chunk of SL artists loathe it, don't use it, and dislike-to-hate the people that do it. We've got a new social media site comin out just for SL users and there's already things in place to force these people to tag it as AI or be banned from the site.
@damntae6540
@damntae6540 7 ай бұрын
Exactly. I’m in a few sl/vu art discords and anyone who shares a morph gets banned. But so many people would rather commission those morphers/theives rather than real editors/artists. Most of the time they’re even paying double just for ai work.
@markup6394
@markup6394 7 ай бұрын
It is as HBomberguy said in his plagiarism video (the 4 hour one...) : people that copy from others think they are beneath them, and they have the right to take whatever they want. Its not respect, its not admiration. Its entitlement of the ugliest sort, and the fact people defend AI scammers is beyond me. Yes, scammers. Not artists because they arent artists. They are scammers and deserve to be called that, especially if they try to defend their sh***y practices.
@ImpactronGaming
@ImpactronGaming 7 ай бұрын
2nd life? Last time I heard from it was in the Office where Jim and Dwight had their avatars shown 😊
@cloudyjules5526
@cloudyjules5526 7 ай бұрын
tought the same thing lol
@AvelierPlays
@AvelierPlays 7 ай бұрын
Its still alive and thriving
@butoutofcontext
@butoutofcontext 7 ай бұрын
"Commissions are expensive tho" doesn't really work as an argument when the original theif commissioned someone.
@JaliceTheShort
@JaliceTheShort 7 ай бұрын
14:16 HOLY SHIT. THIS THIS THIS. This is absolutely a beautiful sentence to plaster onto ignorant peoples faces my god. Art IS a luxury. Art is something that can be replaced, but the original piece will have the effort of an actual person who was learning or gave heart to the piece. AI cannot replicate that.
@JaliceTheShort
@JaliceTheShort 7 ай бұрын
Thats why AI *"art"* looks so SOULESS
@squidpaladin
@squidpaladin 7 ай бұрын
I agree with the sentiment that art is a luxury, I just want to also caution against going down the line of thinking that only the rich deserve to see it [I said SEE for a reason, if you can't afford a commission, oh well!] as a result. [IK that's not what you're saying, just adding that to the discussion! :D]
@JaliceTheShort
@JaliceTheShort 7 ай бұрын
@@squidpaladin yesss, plus art can be made out of literally anything. Just get a pencil and a paper then bam! Plus theres people who draw for free 😭 like raffles etc
@squidpaladin
@squidpaladin 7 ай бұрын
@@JaliceTheShort Exactly!! Looking at art others commission is often free too. Not to mention museums and music and certain forms of TV.
@animeoeshonikako730
@animeoeshonikako730 7 ай бұрын
Makes me so mad how art robbers would just crop out watermarks but now they can run it through ai. I wish there was a way to just completely remove ai theft art from the face of the earth
@saix_unicorn
@saix_unicorn 7 ай бұрын
that's why i hide my signature where they can't see it without looking real good, but yeah the ai is a real damn problem
@daisyberrie
@daisyberrie 7 ай бұрын
i HATTEEEE AI bro. You are not an artist if you use ai and try to disprove itn💀
@Joe_334
@Joe_334 7 ай бұрын
I have been tempted to use one just for making textures, but the odds of it being stolen art makes me want to learn my textures manually.
@4EvR_AR
@4EvR_AR 7 ай бұрын
​@@Joe_334 im kinda confused.. So does AI just 1:1 steal entire art pieces as a whole ( a screenshot basically) and present them as new... or does it take composition, styles and design elements from a bunch of pieces and mash them all together in order to output something resembling whatever was prompted?
@Joe_334
@Joe_334 7 ай бұрын
@@4EvR_AR It's just as bad as being contacted out of the blue about the person being an artist and that they do commissions. This last one just contacted me a few days ago, and only had like one piece readily available for their, "Portfolio". They are just as bad as the AI. I think they keep files given to them and possiibly edit them to pass them off as their pieces of art to someone else.
@lespectator4962
@lespectator4962 6 ай бұрын
@@4EvR_AR A bit of both, depends on your luck. The biggest issue with it is it's an algorithm making the "art" and not a person, algorithms do not pick up on all the nuances humans do like style, composition, emotion, context, intent and so on. Algorithms only crunch numbers, but since it can remember things pixel by pixel and recall billions of images it will inevitably be able to copy those elements without understanding them because it's remembering them through the human artwork it trained on. This mimicry with a lack of understanding of a human is also why it makes it's signature mistakes. If you're wondering why it seems like AI just copies 1:1 in the case of this video, there are some more narrowed down versions of it that will only attempt to alter an image rather than completely generating from scratch, they are called image to image generators. These are the biggest offenders when it comes to theft.
@B.O.Xproject
@B.O.Xproject 7 ай бұрын
The ai one looks kinda uncanny Especially the one with the girl laying down since there's no real expression
@shinkohanasaki1776
@shinkohanasaki1776 7 ай бұрын
second life is such a fun game, I do photography in SL and SL models do NOT look like that without heavy editing or AI. It's ridiculous with how much effort actually goes into SL photography and people are just using AI and copying other people's designs. As an SL player for over 14+ years, this is just disgusting.
@shinkohanasaki1776
@shinkohanasaki1776 7 ай бұрын
also, second life has some anatomy problems such as elbows, wrists, ankles, knees and necks. they look wonky, like the overlap each other. that supposed SL photo is completely AI from just the anatomy alone. I hope this helps.
@banshunee
@banshunee 7 ай бұрын
Hey! I like your videos in which you talk about art theft and how to indentify AI art. Sometimes it is really difficult for me to detect them
@RobertStoll
@RobertStoll 7 ай бұрын
I can't help but feel they weren't even creative about their use of AI. You mean to tell me you have something that has been pre-trained FOR you using thousands of artists' works and can pump out "original" pieces that can't virtually be traced back to any one specific artist. You took that thing, and had it recreate A SPECIFIC piece, by a SPECIFIC artist, who could then call you out. This is somehow worse than those who'll do "in the style of" prompting. This is advanced stupid.
@judilynn9569
@judilynn9569 7 ай бұрын
I sincerely hope Bunny is going to sue her for copyright infringement. This isn't legal in RL or SL or anywhere.
@Shammrye
@Shammrye 6 ай бұрын
the background flowers in the reference photo are roses, bunny made them peonies
@ravenpunk
@ravenpunk 7 ай бұрын
i hate art thieves they literately destroy there own chance at being an artists when they pull this sh*t
@toffylikesgames
@toffylikesgames 5 ай бұрын
I'm a SL resident and I loathe AI. I'm also a SL digital photographer and every now and then I get to see people post photos they run through ai after making their digital photo. It's so gross 😭 It's literally unnecessary, you can make beautiful photography without it. Luckily, there's very few people like that on the grid. Thanks for sharing this!
@AvelierPlays
@AvelierPlays 7 ай бұрын
You can actually do most of these poses and photos directly on SL without the need of using AI or moprhs, it just takes a little bit of skill when it comes to posing, lighting and framing the photo. Not sure why they would go through this, seems like a chore just to end up in trouble.
@zetsugane
@zetsugane 7 ай бұрын
ngl I haven't heard SL drama in ages. there's plenty of it on the platform. seeing it spill into IRL is crazy. I'm not surprised though. thank you for shedding light on this. as someone who used to be fairly active on SL, I can say that this is not the norm. I do know that there are places there that use ai and it makes me sick as an artist, but I can thankfully say that this is not the majority. there are a lot of toxic people on there but a lot of them are ostricized. there's a lot of polarizing extremes on there. you either get super wholesome and supportive or super toxic and abusive. this unfortunately seems to be what has gotten out there. having SL news pop up like this is insane. hoping Bunny benefits from this drama gets lots of new followers, commissioners, and positive traction from all this. they don't deserve the garbage being thrown at them. AI is unethical and this person who is /commissioning/ someone to steal and plagarize should be on everyone's blacklist and whoever they're commissioning should also be reported for theft and blacklisted.
@AaaaNinja
@AaaaNinja 7 ай бұрын
"This is what ____ is trying to apply". I have never heard that phrase before. Trying to what? Trying to SAY? ARGUE?
@LuluLinn
@LuluLinn 6 ай бұрын
As a second life Creator, We are ABSOLUTELY against this. We have been against this for years. We all try our very best to make the best products to show off our stores. This is disgusting and has been spoken about for years in the community.
@trueblueedits4673
@trueblueedits4673 7 ай бұрын
THE CAT'S REFLECTION GOT TURNED INTO A PILE OF BLANKETS. I AM DYINGNINGINGGNG
@sujimatsubackupaccount194
@sujimatsubackupaccount194 7 ай бұрын
I dont see art as a luxary. I think in the case of video games/ movies yes it is a luxary. But, comissions feel more like a emotional desire than a need like . I want a drink of water with flavor on a hot day vs i want a coke on a hot day. I know its hard to explain propperly but there is a difference in wants. It just varies on the classifications .
@goblingrimm4146
@goblingrimm4146 7 ай бұрын
Same exact background too, when the ref pic has a castle in the background.
@nuruhu5122
@nuruhu5122 7 ай бұрын
I am shocked you didn’t even mention the same background 😂😂😂
@triggerfairy4070
@triggerfairy4070 7 ай бұрын
I think its funny that they just dont use the original reference and increase the noise or something.
@azuyani5182
@azuyani5182 7 ай бұрын
oh god im getting second life flashbacks that game is CRAZY
@nallukka2002
@nallukka2002 7 ай бұрын
sometimes i'm tryinna find cc for sims 4 and then i end up finding stuff for secondlife and it drives me mad people really need to start putting logo's of games to their custom items tbh lol
@LonnLe
@LonnLe 7 ай бұрын
THANK YOU FOR COVERING THIS !!!!!
@Todo_2912
@Todo_2912 7 ай бұрын
iirc... there is a free tool.... which is called nightshade. it basically disturbs an image in a very subtile way (humans can't really see the change). but it really messes with image scraping abilities of AI. seems quite usefull if an image gets uploaded into an online portfolio.
@evaskinner5309
@evaskinner5309 7 ай бұрын
unny she does fantastic work and has made such stunning pieces for me, she shows my WIPs and progress for my pieces so I can fully confirm she does not use AI! she's fantastic
@bygxne0
@bygxne0 7 ай бұрын
Can I ask what do you use the commissions for?
@evaskinner5309
@evaskinner5309 7 ай бұрын
@@bygxne0 I personally buy art to decorate my room but my specific piece from Sleepy was for my art account (it was me holding my mascot)
@strwbryrepublic
@strwbryrepublic 7 ай бұрын
I’ve had a Second Life account as a content creator for 18 years, and I don’t know a single person in SL that has done this. Not a single content creator, not a single player. This is blatant theft, and is definitely not condoned within the SL community. This person and people like them are in a league of their own-super disappointing.
@X1Daring2
@X1Daring2 7 ай бұрын
Nah I love secondlife art, these ai theifs need to stop smh
@faericream
@faericream 7 ай бұрын
as someone who actively supports and commissions bunny (thesleepiestbun), like literally the second art piece is something i got commissioned from bunny; i'm just mad as hell cause bunny doesn't deserve this hot mess on her lap, especially when she goes through so much AND is still professional and works hard. every art piece of hers is a masterpiece and i'll always love her art. will always support her. i hate ai art immensely, even before this. i think it's disgusting cause ai art only steals from genuine artists and this... just pisses me off even more. even putting aside that one of my commission pieces got used for ai art, it's still so infuriating. especially since they refuse to take it down and act like using a pose as a REFERENCE is 'stealing' so that they have the right to do it, too. using poses as references etc is normal in art. it's not stealing. what is stealing is what this trashy person does. also, their ai art just looks so f*cking lifeless lmfao. it's definitely legitimate art theft. they did no thinking. no actual art. ai art is bull. bunny didn't deserve this at all. also, no to those who think bunny's art may be ai. she privately shows updates to those who commission her on sketches and even has done so publicly (from memory). as for pricing - i get sometimes artists commission prices are expensive etc. personally, i think bunny's prices should be increased but she has her prices set relatively fair, which i know why from talking to her once about it. rant aside, please do follow and support bunny. she deserves a lot of love for her art, even for her gorgeous personality. if you ever want to commission an artist, you can definitely trust bunny to do a wonderful job. there's a reason that i keep going back to her
@hearnoevilsa655
@hearnoevilsa655 7 ай бұрын
man all I can say is be prepared for a whole lot worse this is only the beginning ai makes to much money.
@hearnoevilsa655
@hearnoevilsa655 7 ай бұрын
In the future, the ubiquitous integration of AI in daily life will redefine creativity. Creating art with AI will be as fundamental as starting from a blank canvas. Harnessing AI in conjunction with human intellect will be the new benchmark for creativity. This reality will persist, regardless of any regulatory attempts, especially with the advent of AGI. It is crucial to comprehend that ideas originate from the ether, the mind, and the universe. Inspiration is the true essence of creativity, while execution is a skill.
@gapsule2326
@gapsule2326 6 ай бұрын
AI actually loses money and is a climate change nightmare. Its good for duping investors who believe the hype. Industries are just slapping it everywhere hoping for practical application. But it takes too much power so itll likely fizzle out when the investor money dries up. So far its only good for scammers, cheaters, and general goofs.
@coolet9132
@coolet9132 7 ай бұрын
The good thing with it happening even if it sucks when people steal is that it reached more people and more people learn about the artist which probably gives her more commissions. Sucks that it happens but probably good for her in the long run which would be the best case scenario.
@biohazzzard
@biohazzzard 7 ай бұрын
9:58 my hand does that man 😭i wouldnt say that a valid ai mistake if it actually happens
@knives.3733
@knives.3733 7 ай бұрын
I donot think your hand tries to form a piece of random flesh between the palm and your finger... it should be separated evenly like the other fingers ! (luv your pfp btw, luv that artist.)
@biohazzzard
@biohazzzard 7 ай бұрын
@@knives.3733 its not a random piece of flesh though. its muscle that gets squished and bulges out, making it more noticeable
@thesongofthelinnet
@thesongofthelinnet 2 ай бұрын
1:08 me sitting here trying to figure out if that's bestdressed or not
@derrickthomas4767
@derrickthomas4767 6 ай бұрын
Bootlegging someone's art is messed up. Making money off of that bootleg art is criminal
@kaekaeno
@kaekaeno 2 ай бұрын
People saying that "AI is a good tool for people without money" while I knew a guy, who literally pays monthly for midjourney subscription to have access to more (stolen) pieces to generate from. And that was also his argument, that he doesn't have much money. Like, either you don't have it, or you just prefer to steal and generate crap, make up your mind.
@psychorainbow6631
@psychorainbow6631 7 ай бұрын
The fact they are clearly lying and trying to justify their actions when they literally stole bunnies are work like huh?!?!
@danaparsonsliquidcosmosart2669
@danaparsonsliquidcosmosart2669 6 ай бұрын
lets nto forget that peic eof backgroudn that's only in bunnys piece not in the reference
@chilljelloton2089
@chilljelloton2089 7 ай бұрын
the excuse of "commissions are expensive" is so dissconnected from reality tho in this case. the AI work was a commission, at least if bunny was commissioned all tht money ouldnt go to a lazy thief who barely did shit
@cesarsantos854
@cesarsantos854 7 ай бұрын
I am absolutely shocked, shocked that Second Life still exists.
@Sandra8675SecondLife
@Sandra8675SecondLife 5 ай бұрын
Hi Kat... Really interesting video. I'm starting to get into ur videos talking about the AI usage in art. I am interested in anything SL related. Tried to write to you on twitter but for some reason the platform would not let me. I used a small clip from your video here for to spark a discussion on AI usage for art.
@stephanieamare
@stephanieamare 6 ай бұрын
This case, is blatant theft. I've had the same thing happen to me where people have re-uploaded my work and given no credit, made no alterations, or anything. Both RL works, and Second Life works. They're trying to use their own shitty behaviour as if it's something that is normal or accepted in the Second Life community, and for most of us--because of time, investment, connections, and profit (if you're a Second Life content creator). A lot of us don't simply see it as a game, but a virtual world or metaverse...sometimes it's just easier to call it a game, though. A vast majority of us SL photographers and artists are against the use of AI as a filter, and do consider it theft. But the problem is now, that some content creators are even using it on their product ads, and that just leads to a lot of issues like misrepresentation or false advertising. I think there's some leniency if some people use AI elements as background or composited objects--because compositing has been a thing since The Fleischer Brothers invented rotoscoping, and photographers did double exposure. But my main thing is, that there are a lot of good content creators out there making highly detailed skins, clothing, etc. You can get photorealistic scenes/images without even the need of heavy editing---if you take the time to learn your craft, and some people are quite frankly too lazy too. They want instant gratification and clout, with little effort.
@IvyDarkRose
@IvyDarkRose 7 ай бұрын
As someone who dabbles in Secondlife, this is cap. plain and simple, to steal and lie. Like WE KNOW YOU USED AI!
@Limes14201
@Limes14201 27 күн бұрын
i love schleepy's art, it reminds me of mm k-12 art :)
@yuki97kira
@yuki97kira 6 ай бұрын
Also with art a luxury thing..there are many artists...many learning artist who will do free art from time to time. Its rare..and its not professional level, but there will be artist willing to do it for free just for fun.
@Shadencile
@Shadencile 7 ай бұрын
Also as a second life Content creator, we do not like art theft, we all try to callout art thief's, this is not ok, it is never ok to steal other peoples art/content, if you want to use someone elses piece for reference please get permissions if possible from the original artist and make sure if you did get permissions to always link back/shout-out/showcase give credit to the original art piece, it is so so so important, especially in this day and age where ai is so prominent everywhere, it is so important to give credit where credit is due, even if you get a brick material from an art site somewhere, contact the creator of this brick material, and ask that creator if it is ok to feature their brick material in your content on the second life platform or where ever, someone put time and effort into making that material art for use, and if you can't even say thank you with at minimum a link of credit/shoutout then it really degrades peoples perspective of you as a artist in general.. Please, be respectful and mindful of other peoples content on the internet, there are so many wonderful and talented artists who get their things taken for granted and we really need to come together as a community and do what we can, every time you use a reference for something, within logical reasons, out of respect, always try to link back to your original sources when you share/sell.. This person being convicted of art theft is clearly doing something that is not ok, and is clearly misinformed within the second life platform, you literally need to agree in the TOS of second life to basically not sell stuff that is not your own, and SO many people ignore this rule, this needs to be enforced more, Second life thrives on the artists within it and without them it would be literal trash. This person needs to be educated and shown how to correctly respect artists within the platform and similar situations.
@wiolwolmine6560
@wiolwolmine6560 7 ай бұрын
I actually agree. I kept learnign to draw better because I never had money to order commissions >.>
@Skaldond
@Skaldond 7 ай бұрын
as a second life user/creator i can say this. WE DO NOT CONDONE THIS SORT OF BEHAVIOUR! EVER! also apologies for yelling, this sort of bullcrap gives the other 99% of SL users/creators a bad reputation.
@yuki97kira
@yuki97kira 6 ай бұрын
Fun fact to non artist: even with the same references, the piece will come out different..especially on stylised art By stylised i mean the art isnt drawn directly similar to the reference pics
@yeet6362
@yeet6362 6 ай бұрын
Only time i used AI on Art is over top of my own art. I only do it for fun, because it's fun to see my more realistic art style in a completely different style. The only time i actually used an AI version of my own art was when i was trying to redraw this old drawing of an older male character i have, i really suck at drawing very masculine men because, well, my pfp makes it obvious. Lol , but, um, i was having trouble redrawing that old terrible drawing and i needed help and using real people as reference was oddly putting me in this loop of drawing him too closely to the real person i was referencing. I felt weird about it and was like. "What if old drawing put through AI??" And it helped a lot, still looked like my character, just better and i used it as reference in my new drawing. AI is great over your own art for reference sometimes, but stealing others art and putting it through AI to claim it as your own is disgusting and it's awful people seem to continuously think that's ok for some reason and they should always be called out for this.
@buda3d2007
@buda3d2007 7 ай бұрын
"Not my artwork..." puts signature on AI copy and make no attributions to original artist....
@SoupSpot
@SoupSpot 6 ай бұрын
The boy mayor of second life would NOT approve. Neither would Totino’s Pizza rolls.
@societyslostone
@societyslostone 7 ай бұрын
"Commissions are expensive-" THE STOLEN ART WAS A COMMISSION!!!!!!!! They could have just taken the money to Bunny from the get-go! orz
@ypfl2336
@ypfl2336 5 ай бұрын
It’s called delusional people that can’t comprehend other artist do what they can’t. This is sad they tried to stand on business too so dumb
@squidpaladin
@squidpaladin 7 ай бұрын
"We literally mainly morph for pictures" MA'AM WHO IS WE???? Speak for yourself! I set up all my shots as a photographer IRL would. Scene, lighting, model, makeup, clothing, props. I don't morph SH*T. We can all tell who morphs and who doesn't. And some of us who don't cringe at how unlike SL it all looks.
@transcendantviewer
@transcendantviewer 7 ай бұрын
The strongest argument I've heard for AI art tools is for artists to use it to help work on a piece a bit faster, to make commissions easier (and potentially cheaper, if they so choose to adjust their pricing). I don't know the nuance to the argument, that's just the best standpoint I've heard that sounds reasonable out-of-the-gate.
@stargateMimhi
@stargateMimhi 7 ай бұрын
If someone needs art for some sort of private or behind the scenes use, ie concept art for projects, and can't afford to commission it I'm not going to hold it against them for using AI. I will absolutely hold it against them for distributing AI, let alone watermarked or in final goods. There is also the question of AI being used on photo references rather than digital art, and whether that then becomes transformative. But feeding digital or handmade art, not photos of real subjects, into the AI is clearly not meaningfully transformative.
@Beeeeeewwwww
@Beeeeeewwwww 7 ай бұрын
This is like the perfect way to speak about ai regarding art
@preripped
@preripped 7 ай бұрын
touhou pfp took two Ws in one take 🗣
@someonewithpoortaste
@someonewithpoortaste 7 ай бұрын
No idea what second life is, I'm guessing it's kind of like Avakin life? If yes, I would be absolutely pissed if someone took my avakin edits/redraws and ran them through AI then claimed its theirs ;-;
@yolasumbra410
@yolasumbra410 2 ай бұрын
14:50 and I'd like to make the point too, if she likes Bunny's ascetic of art why would she have it commissioned by someone else instead of Bunny who does commotions? it makes 0 sense to go to someone else in that case. The person who stole the art pieces is pathetic and I'm sorry that Bunny is having to deal with that, no one should have their art stolen, not only is it something that takes so much time and effort, but it's a personal piece too as it takes so much time, only if those who stole would realize this and not do it because they'd be complaining too if someone copied something they worked their butts off for.
@stardemonkei
@stardemonkei 7 ай бұрын
as SL user, even though the photobashing she claims as morphing its still ai. which is a big nono in the community. the fact she continued to steal from one artist is wild.
@erinmori9045
@erinmori9045 6 ай бұрын
im a second life player (5years) EVERYONE DOES THAT, IM SO TIRED OF IT.... all stores started to do it, they are deceiving and lately all stores does it im so tired of it for real.... all vendors looks the same
@erinmori9045
@erinmori9045 6 ай бұрын
i just dont ever see sl models anymore, all is AI
@hollowedboi5937
@hollowedboi5937 7 ай бұрын
Does glaze/nightshade mess up someone’s attempts to do ai filters over your art
@cheemsdrip7478
@cheemsdrip7478 7 ай бұрын
No, nightshade/glaze prevents AI from training on your work, it dosent do anything to filters
@cheemsdrip7478
@cheemsdrip7478 7 ай бұрын
I wish it did
@OhGoodieGumdrops
@OhGoodieGumdrops 7 ай бұрын
My fellow artists I don’t know if this is going to be fun to hear but I must say it now. The art that you have posted on your social media network that haven’t been Glaze or Nightshade over is gone now. I hate having to say this because my gosh it wrecked me to fully realize it thanks to most sites using AI now, but they are already in that AI system. I still think it’s important to call out these people who still AI your old work no matter what, so we are all aware of these thieves. However, it’s time to start Glaze and/or Nightshade your current work in order to keep your art protected. The artists behind it had given an update saying something tried to take down the system but luckily caught it and have given another update to the Glaze feature. Currently it is now 2.1 so be sure to get the newer version! Idk if they are doing funds yet, but I’m definitely so grateful to at least have a system made by artists for artists to try to stop stuff like this from happening more.
@mowsieel
@mowsieel 7 ай бұрын
Omg I knew this artist I used to be hella on sl making edits and blogging and we intracted a lot omfg this is such news to me thank u for this
@aleezglory
@aleezglory 7 ай бұрын
This is going to happen more often than not no matter how upset people get about it.
@Hanna-bee-69
@Hanna-bee-69 7 ай бұрын
just realize that the clothes on the back r a little funky 13:51
@yungs_space
@yungs_space 6 ай бұрын
Ive been following bunny for years, although this situation sucks I do hope that she would get attention and love that she deserves
@MrAngryMonkey100
@MrAngryMonkey100 7 ай бұрын
the same bad behavior is in gameing as well. these tourists/activist's losers need to get purged
@Beeeeeewwwww
@Beeeeeewwwww 7 ай бұрын
What
@babyandboybytv-lw3ij
@babyandboybytv-lw3ij 7 ай бұрын
ngl, now i feel like i must have weird pinkies...
@cristiansolano1052
@cristiansolano1052 7 ай бұрын
You can't steal what is public domain! Original artist will always have authorship rights over the piece, that is, intellectual property...that's about it.
@Lobiabean
@Lobiabean 6 ай бұрын
Idk how to say thank you to all the ppl who talk about tracing
@BlenderMadness
@BlenderMadness 7 ай бұрын
10:05 ... my hand does that irl
@xxspiritwolfxx1682
@xxspiritwolfxx1682 7 ай бұрын
as someone whom lvs to draw (i am a terrible artist and canny draw.. but im trying) i will admit i use some ai on the odd occasion for personal use (mostly my OC's or backgrounds for my laptop or phone) i have never claimed it as my own art as i am aware that the ai bots (the one that i use anyway) uses inspo from others arts... but its never outright copied someones art.. i feel like ppl whom use ai bots or filters should outright state they dont own the art... its just not respectful to claim the art as your own.. hell if u refuse to listen to reason and post it online on your media.. i feel you should just tag the art owner after asking if u could.. its kind of sad.. for example.. i feel inspired to draw when i look at actual art drawn by actual artists.. and i enjoy commenting on artists posts that r just starting up or not.. cause their work is gorgeous.. and then when i commission artists and post that on my media.. i always tag the artists...
@PixieOnTheLoose
@PixieOnTheLoose 7 ай бұрын
Something else to notice is that the cat on the window still (idk) is still a cat in the stolen picture but turns into blankets in the mirror.
@baconbaconpancake1181
@baconbaconpancake1181 7 ай бұрын
Second life user. I can't photoshop myself so all of my sl photos are unedited. I dont run them through AI. I will admit when AI first came out I thought it was fun to play with, until you learn about the fact that it IS theft. So if someone wanted to take inspiration from bunny's art. You can set up an in world backdrop with a similar vibe. Pose the avatars and do a lot of it IN WORLD before you even get it in editing. Commissioning people to do AI is so weird to me.
@forestspritestephanie
@forestspritestephanie 7 ай бұрын
Alright so...I am an old artist. I have been around a long time and have seen a lot of art stolen. I even on rare occasions use AI to get my work done faster. So I am also not bias. In the Art world the rule has always been that if the piece isn't 75 percent changed... It's stolen. So. Going by that rule of thumb, Yes. These images are stolen. They convey the same feeling, look poses , meaning and even small details. The only thing changed is colors and the style. You can take inspiration off others art and photos but you should always ask and always share it with the original creator. I for one have had several of my models bought from turbosquid and cgtrader and sold on SL with no changes at all. That alone is stressful as I specifically state to make textural changes before uploading anywhere commercially.
@Lillie_
@Lillie_ 7 ай бұрын
This kind of behavior is wild to me .. OMG I found Bunny again! Thank you! I followed her back then and lost her acc bc I deleted mine xD
@katnchat
@katnchat 7 ай бұрын
yay! so glad this vid could bring bunny some more exposure after this shitty behavior >
@MinatoKushinalovers
@MinatoKushinalovers 5 ай бұрын
Why is eemiyn trying to gaslight us
@fruityfroot4413
@fruityfroot4413 7 ай бұрын
Imagine claiming a whole community doing something reprehensible and saying "well THEYRE doing this awful thing, so its ok" how out of touch is that xD Bro is literally doing 1v1 on their art and thinks thats OK? Weird.
@mrvoicebox3099
@mrvoicebox3099 2 ай бұрын
theres a difference between AI art and stolen art from other artists even keywords of people still alive is copyright
@ganmerlad
@ganmerlad 7 ай бұрын
In the first example, you don't need to count the peonies, point out hair placement and color, dress color etc to prove the theft (though that's all definite evidence) -- all you need to say the background is the same as Bunny's work. The background being the same for both makes it absolutely and immediately clear that they took Bunny's drawing and put it into the generator with the command "make it more realistic", and that's it. The laziest art theft ever (aside from taking someone else's work, cropping out the artist's signature and putting yours on instead). Eemiyn's argument that "everybody else does it so it's ok, get off my back" is infuriating too. Everybody else wasn't caught red-handed. If all your friends get away with shoplifting but you're caught trying it, do you think the police will let you go just because your friends have never been caught? 'Everyone you know is a thief? Alright then, I guess stealing is fine. Have a nice day.' THEN to act like the victim in all this, 'The owner of the artwork wasn't nice to me about stealing her art. So screw the meanie, I'm keeping my stolen art online because she should have treated me better.' That's some "entitled brat" attitude right there. Eemiyn is completely in the wrong by any standard and whines about it. Lastly, it turns out she isn't even doing the AI herself and namedrops who's doing it for her, for no reason. I can't tell if it's a sly plug for Brendameges, or Eemiyn trying to divert attention/blame by throwing Brendamenges in front of the bus. Either way, wow. 'Friends' like Eemiyn will ruin your life.
@JentaCookieCat
@JentaCookieCat 7 ай бұрын
I love the way you say peonies ❤
@reruntt
@reruntt 7 ай бұрын
these kind of people scared me enough to not post anything
@Moonslayer01
@Moonslayer01 5 ай бұрын
And the art thief looks really bad, so what was even the point. As an artist, i hate Ai and Tracer thiefs
@hodgepodge3D
@hodgepodge3D 7 ай бұрын
As a SL creator, we do NOT claim this shitttttt D: We hate itttttttttttttttt
@3velynn0
@3velynn0 5 ай бұрын
Ha she just trying to make the secondlife players to go against bunny
@6XTsugarcube-chan
@6XTsugarcube-chan 7 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this!
@katnchat
@katnchat 7 ай бұрын
awwh tyy!!
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