Shane Jones: Māori are not in jail because of colonisation.

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@shaungeorge9143
@shaungeorge9143 3 ай бұрын
As a Māori thank you Mr jones sick of media and politicians victimising us at every turn like we always need help and can’t think for ourselves
@mattyallen3396
@mattyallen3396 3 ай бұрын
Blame white liberals for that bro
@markcleaver6573
@markcleaver6573 3 ай бұрын
Well said.
@kenbuist1
@kenbuist1 3 ай бұрын
Thank you @shaungeorge9143. Certain politicians and the media are continually trying to racially divide in our nation. They push an "oppressor vs oppressed" narrative that is destructive. Many pakeha Kiwis love our Maori brothers and sisters.
@mrc6301
@mrc6301 3 ай бұрын
most do, but its those who want a free ride that dont.
@heidelberg1942
@heidelberg1942 3 ай бұрын
@@shaungeorge9143 why can they not think for themselves?
@MrAhuapai
@MrAhuapai 3 ай бұрын
Jones makes the point that is rarely made. Māori are overwhelmingly the victims of crime in NZ yet the victims are rarely talked about.
@logicalanswer3529
@logicalanswer3529 3 ай бұрын
Because then you have to talk about who made them a victim of crime. And we can't have that without certain people claiming racism.
@pgreen8531
@pgreen8531 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely right and disgusting behavior from maori generally
@stevehughes1510
@stevehughes1510 3 ай бұрын
That's MSM and the corrupt maori gravy train crew, the majority of NZer's see the BS/hypocrisy and vote accordingly thank goodness.
@deanwitt7903
@deanwitt7903 3 ай бұрын
And in general it’s Maori who made them a victim .
@sleepinggiant5161
@sleepinggiant5161 3 ай бұрын
Pop up a bit with child victims.
@alanbrooke144
@alanbrooke144 3 ай бұрын
Top tip for reducing the Maori prison population - don’t commit crime.
@olliemoose2020
@olliemoose2020 3 ай бұрын
They will always moan about something, you can never appease the Māori so don’t bother trying.
@november50
@november50 3 ай бұрын
They haven't committed any crime according to their tikanga, after all they're just gentle farmers and fishermen.🤔🤣😂😅🤣
@tonystewart7287
@tonystewart7287 3 ай бұрын
Pretty simple concept
@jahnzkotahiaroha6253
@jahnzkotahiaroha6253 3 ай бұрын
Top tip for stopping crime give everyone a decent education about real shit not pro nouns and teaching a young child sexual grooming.
@EuropeanImpact-r8q
@EuropeanImpact-r8q 3 ай бұрын
@@olliemoose2020 your right, this is a war. ive been chucking pills in all the pakeha's food
@iandeynzer2883
@iandeynzer2883 3 ай бұрын
Great responses from Shane. It begs the question what are TPM & Māori leaders doing about the disproportionate representation other than blaming others and promoting victimhood mentality to gain votes?
@briansatchell2319
@briansatchell2319 3 ай бұрын
Nothing its been the same for years
@waynepike4337
@waynepike4337 3 ай бұрын
Exactly, the whole lot are stuck in a RUT
@angebrowne1371
@angebrowne1371 3 ай бұрын
Fkn NAZI'S?
@olliemoose2020
@olliemoose2020 3 ай бұрын
Yes it’s about time they had a good look in the mirror, but don’t hold your breath.
@november50
@november50 3 ай бұрын
Well, they did conspire to, and admitted on film, the filling out the voting forms in one part of Auckland at the last election. That counts.
@MagicPudding1111
@MagicPudding1111 3 ай бұрын
Blaming the justice system instead of the criminals that break the law is beyond logical understanding.
@olliemoose2020
@olliemoose2020 3 ай бұрын
I know it just breaks my heart, the poor Māori victims 😢.
@YourProfessor1974
@YourProfessor1974 3 ай бұрын
Nah, our justice system is f’d. Guilty people get a slap on the wrist all the time and there’s no justice for the victims. There’s cases where people get home d for rape charges. How’s that justice? Our justice system definitely needs to be looked at
@logicalanswer3529
@logicalanswer3529 3 ай бұрын
That is because criminal sympathizer's do not grasp the concept of self-accountability.
@Rev_GC
@Rev_GC 3 ай бұрын
So you're quite happy to acknowledge that a large part of the problem is in the systemically defunct police force? Or is that to honest for you just yet?
@itistrue101
@itistrue101 3 ай бұрын
@@Rev_GC Might be the one drop rule that is the issue'.... easiest way to curtail the disproportionate stats is to redefine Māori as that which posses 51%.
@maljohn1414
@maljohn1414 3 ай бұрын
Not a single person is in prison for GOOD BEHAVIOUR.
@briansatchell2319
@briansatchell2319 3 ай бұрын
That DUMB girl can't work that out
@Arms26
@Arms26 3 ай бұрын
Nelson Mandela went to prison. Now he's a hero. Muhammed Ali went to prison for what he believed in, now he's a hero. The Justice system is only as fair as the racists that run it.
@sclark9011
@sclark9011 3 ай бұрын
Sadly it's the good kids that miss out and the bad kids that get all the attention for the wrong reasons.
@Rev_GC
@Rev_GC 3 ай бұрын
You have A LOT to learn about the defunct NZ police force and legal system IF you truly believe that. NZ has many political prisoners, who's only fault was being the victim of crimes, many committed directly by, in in conspiracy with our constabulary. This is a major part of our domestic violence, and gang, problems....
@moeroahapuku5872
@moeroahapuku5872 3 ай бұрын
There were enough Maori in prison when Pakeha stole Maori property and land
@bazw255
@bazw255 3 ай бұрын
got to admire shane jones for his clarity and ability to plow through the bullcrap delivered by these questioneres
@Lalalollipop-k9t
@Lalalollipop-k9t 8 күн бұрын
Crap questions too 🤦🏽‍♀️. I hope they don’t ever lead NZ one day.
@alanJones-c9l
@alanJones-c9l 3 ай бұрын
Well said Sir!
@DW_Kiwi
@DW_Kiwi 3 ай бұрын
But that's "all" he does...talk!!
@maverick214
@maverick214 3 ай бұрын
"Not explained away by some distant colonial event". Well said, Mr Jones.
@bobsmith5088
@bobsmith5088 2 ай бұрын
If you look at incarnation statistics from 100 years ago, there is no difference between the two groups. So yeah, something that happened a long time ago is not likely to be the cause. The over representation only started about the 1960, right around the time of the welfare movement, when victimhood became profitable.
@fredfinks
@fredfinks 8 күн бұрын
I forgot to take out the garbage bins and didnt vacuum the house because of the battle of carthage.
@zaksol7022
@zaksol7022 3 ай бұрын
Well said shane ,i am maori im sick of TPM playing victim, i married my amazing pakeha wife maori need to start acting like tanga te whenua and show some respect for our fellow kiwis.
@mattyallen3396
@mattyallen3396 3 ай бұрын
I noticed many many years ago how many intelligent / influential maori married European kiwis!
@jamieallam8809
@jamieallam8809 3 ай бұрын
Well said totally agree with you. Have so many Maori mates who went to Aussie. Just to get away from this crap. All of them have done well. Nice houses, families, work hard . Simply because they aren't dragged down by this envy politics and blaming the Pakeha for everything. They just get on with their lives.
@logicalanswer3529
@logicalanswer3529 3 ай бұрын
Good point. It usually revolves around showing self-accountability.
@martinward7239
@martinward7239 3 ай бұрын
​@jamieallam8809 You're not the only one bro. I applaud them for it. 🎉
@davidpicard5376
@davidpicard5376 3 ай бұрын
Amongst my friends, many of which are Maori are model citizens and would wipe the floor with many of us. I'm pakeha and this wonderful group of inspirational Maori people I'm involved with are amazing. I'm struggling with the problem we have in New Zealand and am aware that many have suffered systemic violence within their families however I am a believer that one can learn from their parents mistakes and avoid repeating those mistakes. It's a shame New Zealand has this dire situation but I believe it can and must be turned around. This debate here is just going around in circles. Shane Jones does touch on the crucial issues which honestly need to be resolved. This debate is obviously going nowhere.
@enumeratenz
@enumeratenz 3 ай бұрын
Corrections does not put people in prison ... the judiciary order them there at sentencing. The judiciary do not produce criminal charges ... the police charge as they accumulate evidence of a criminal act. The police do not create criminal acts ... criminals do this when they commit crimes. This latter group are the only people that can stop criminal activity ... everyone else is simply doing their job. I would have thought at Green MP on $180k per year would understand this.
@Arms26
@Arms26 3 ай бұрын
Nelson Mandela begs to differ.
@Arms26
@Arms26 3 ай бұрын
@@maryjones5710 Same example.
@Arms26
@Arms26 3 ай бұрын
@@maryjones5710 Don't be so bloody ignorant.
@koro287
@koro287 3 ай бұрын
@@Arms26 Mandela was an overrated commy i heard.
@Arms26
@Arms26 3 ай бұрын
@@koro287 I heard you're a POS. One of us is right, and it aint you.
@GaryPeters-nv8pj
@GaryPeters-nv8pj 3 ай бұрын
Good on you Mr Shane. Telling it how it is, not how 'certain' people want to hear it.
@TheBisonBalls
@TheBisonBalls 3 ай бұрын
They hear it, understand it, and agree with it. Sadly it goes against the grift they are working to make $$$$, so they won't change their attitude.
@smudge6831
@smudge6831 3 ай бұрын
Bloody brilliant Shane Jones. About time a strong Maori leader stood up and told it like it was. Bravo sir
@EuropeanImpact-r8q
@EuropeanImpact-r8q 3 ай бұрын
we don't need a maori leader, who even gets to decide leader of the maori? thats stupid
@smudge6831
@smudge6831 3 ай бұрын
@@EuropeanImpact-r8q gibberish
@kelbatt7729
@kelbatt7729 3 ай бұрын
He spoke a totally different a few years ago, Then he got elected with the matching salary- now he toes the line, and takes his pay.
@janbrown9195
@janbrown9195 Ай бұрын
💯💯
@gissyb1
@gissyb1 Ай бұрын
Pffttt
@oceansep4103
@oceansep4103 3 ай бұрын
Great work Shane keep representing the majority Māori who are more focused on solutions for victims instead of glamourising the criminals
@mabear9238
@mabear9238 14 күн бұрын
Well said, couldn't agree more.
@peterbishop1933
@peterbishop1933 3 ай бұрын
Excellent Shane. If they didn't do the crime then they would not be in jail that applies to anyone locked up male or female
@Arms26
@Arms26 3 ай бұрын
I've never been in jail, I've never done time, because I follow the law. That doesn't change the fact that many of the laws we live by today are inherently racist. Maori people have had of 3 million acres of land STOLEN. Land they were cultivating, land that was fertile and prosperous, land that was feeding their families and gaining wealth, STOLEN FROM THEM. Not only STOLEN, but that THEFT was then legislated and that THEFT made LEGAL. Imagine that, if the crown came into your house, kicked you and your family out, told you not to come back or you will be killed and then legislated what they'd just done to make it legal! Thats what happened to Maori! We were robbed of our land, we were robbed of our wealth, robbed of our self determination, robbed of our rights under the law, robbed of our identity - a whole generation who were put through an education system that punished them for speaking their native tongue, forced to change their names to more understandable English names because the immigrants couldn't understand them. We ARE, HAVE BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE VICTIMS. Shane Jones believed that before he got his cushy 6 figure salary. He advocated fro Maori rights, he advocated for Maori to resist the Crown, now he's changed his tune. He'll change it back once his contract with the crown is ended. He is a mercenary, just like Winston.
@PeteLudz
@PeteLudz 3 ай бұрын
@@Arms26 Yea ....??? And what about all the Maori mercenaries with their snouts in the trough and riding the gravy train.... They got you and others suckered in believing Maori are victims.... So that they can keep the money coming in.... Open your eyes...They are the ones driving the big SUVs .... Flash suits ..... Big houses.... Stop being a victim of the past.... It cannot be changed....
@jahnzkotahiaroha6253
@jahnzkotahiaroha6253 3 ай бұрын
What about the crime the Government committed through covid have you heard of the Nuremberg treaty that all allies signed so we humans were not poisoned by government officials.
@EuropeanImpact-r8q
@EuropeanImpact-r8q 3 ай бұрын
Just because something is law doesn't make it right, and unlike the white man maori don't try and spin the truth to win the perspectives of others, they tell it straight from there own.
@logicalanswer3529
@logicalanswer3529 3 ай бұрын
@@Arms26 Name one specific law that is "inherently racist" and what about it makes it specifically racist towards Māori.
@ashman167
@ashman167 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Shane, Māori are not victims, rather than behaviour that, reflected from the families. Work with families.. sick of the crap.
@Arms26
@Arms26 3 ай бұрын
Maori ABOSULTELY ARE VICTIMS! Regardless of what Shane Jones thinks, and by the way, he wasn't speaking like this when no one would take him, when he was out in the cold, in teh wilderness alone, he was all for Maori being victims, and fighting the crowns racist systems, yet now that he has a cushy taxpayer funded 6 figure salary, none of that exists anymore. Make no mistake. Shane Jones is a mercenary. He says what the Prime Minister and those above him want him to say. He doesn't believe any of what he's saying, he's saying it because because thats what he's being paid handsomely to say. Maori are victims, and he knows it, and he believes it, and he will go back to saying that when he's no longer in Government.
@schlookie
@schlookie 3 ай бұрын
​@Arms26 grow up
@mdc2085
@mdc2085 3 ай бұрын
@@Arms26Not victims. Not oppressed.
@Arms26
@Arms26 3 ай бұрын
@@mdc2085 Yeah and you're not intelligent.
@Arms26
@Arms26 3 ай бұрын
@@schlookie Do some damn research and stop being so damn ignorant.
@colinpreston8232
@colinpreston8232 3 ай бұрын
Go Shane Jones, what a breath of fresh air. At last someone has stood up and called the situation for what it is, had we done this years ago we might not be in this mess now. To use colonisation as an excuse, is an insult to every decent Maori who is following societies laws and norms, and in most cases works bloody hard to build a life for themselves, alongside the rest of us.
@Bob-zs3ro
@Bob-zs3ro 3 ай бұрын
@@colinpreston8232 Tumeke Brother I'm Maori and English Proud to be. How ever to be Proud of who I am, gives me ZERO, currency Above and Beyond Anyone whatsoever. Ironically We must at death, Protect Our Culture Norms and Tradition's. I Suspect What will Finally Bring AUSSIE and NEW ZEALAND Maori, Koori and Our White Kin Folk, through blood sweat and tears plus ANZACS Lest WE, FORGET. Reduce Immigration or PERISH.
@Bob-zs3ro
@Bob-zs3ro 28 күн бұрын
Fuckin hey yeah, thanks brother I feel the same , three meke Bro. Kia Kaha Rule Britannia.
@Bob-zs3ro
@Bob-zs3ro 28 күн бұрын
Are you in Ozzy bro.
@Tupunaforever
@Tupunaforever 3 ай бұрын
Thankyou Mr Jones, as a maori I'm sick of hearing poor me poor me, with Politicians victimising us continually. This victimization from Politicians is generational. I'm 64 and my aunties and uncles can't help themselves to continually complain about how hard done by they are when in fact they all own their homes, own cars and are comfortable. I'm bloody sick of it. Do the crime do the time. Never reward rotten behavior, in the home and in the community.
@janetbromhead4115
@janetbromhead4115 2 ай бұрын
You are honest and see things clearly. God bless!
@mabear9238
@mabear9238 14 күн бұрын
Well said 💯 percent. Couldn't agree more. 👍
@Neil-yx3rc
@Neil-yx3rc 3 ай бұрын
Shane Jones has the guts to tell the truth. The truth even if it be unpalatable is a step in the right direction. The mana belongs to Shane Jones.
@kelbatt7729
@kelbatt7729 Ай бұрын
He talks differently than he used to earlier in his career, mind you gets paid a lot more now.
@mabear9238
@mabear9238 14 күн бұрын
Well said, you got to admire Shane for telling it as it really is, no holding back. Some maori just want to play victims for the rest of their lives because it's easier than having to make the effort it takes to make changes in their lives and do something constructive with it. To much like hard work.
@garybeattie2403
@garybeattie2403 3 ай бұрын
I have loads of maori mates who have not had the best upbringing but are doing pretty well. In life through hard work and personal responsibility. It's a person's choice what road they take.
@logicalanswer3529
@logicalanswer3529 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. Which literally disproves the excuse that if you grow up a certain way, you will end up a certain way.
@Rev_GC
@Rev_GC 3 ай бұрын
To a point. But unfortunately NZ has a large population of individuals that have been gaslit into delusional beliefs by a captured "education" system and a largely captured far left propaganda apparatus.
@vanyawere5938
@vanyawere5938 3 ай бұрын
100%
@Dave183
@Dave183 2 ай бұрын
I grew up in drunken poverty and have had to spend the rest of my life, trying to adapt.
@jrmurphypoet
@jrmurphypoet 2 ай бұрын
BULLSHIT, you have no idea what you talking about. Of course it not crime based on race but the extreme inequality & hatred of poor by rich in this neoliberal nightmare of hell.
@malimal69
@malimal69 3 ай бұрын
Will Maori ever take responsibility for their own lives and actions, or will their representatives and leaders keep using colonization as an excuse. As long as Maori leaders are not prepared to demand more of Maori (rather than more for Maori), then nothing will change.
@patriceking9583
@patriceking9583 3 ай бұрын
💯 correct this is the major problem. Maori leaders are not helping at all and when help comes they criticise it unless they’re paid mega bucks to run it and then it simply becomes another ineffective outcome because they have no real clue how to implement it without destroying it
@mabear9238
@mabear9238 14 күн бұрын
Well said 💯 percent. You have nailed it.
@jacobkemp1183
@jacobkemp1183 3 ай бұрын
Well said Shane Jones
@csefesi
@csefesi 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Shane 🙏 Tamatha Paul you are what's wrong with modern Maori politicians from the LEFT.
@dd2451
@dd2451 3 ай бұрын
Always the victim grifter.
@danielpye7738
@danielpye7738 2 ай бұрын
Shane nailed it at the end. And all the way throughout.
@MrDynasport
@MrDynasport 3 ай бұрын
Maori won't break the victim cycle until they stop being professional moaners.
@YourProfessor1974
@YourProfessor1974 3 ай бұрын
I feel like the same could be said about all the people who winge about treaty settlements
@HamueraWilliams
@HamueraWilliams 3 ай бұрын
Ur mum is a professional moaner bro, dont hear ur father complaining
@moeroahapuku5872
@moeroahapuku5872 3 ай бұрын
@@MrDynasport must be nice being a Pakeha. You steal off others and call them complainers when they protest. Your still colonists at heart and soul
@Annon.yamous
@Annon.yamous 3 ай бұрын
Until government come to the party according to te tiriti settlement we will never quit and that's our rights 😂
@HamueraWilliams
@HamueraWilliams 3 ай бұрын
@@Annon.yamous we should all just boycott the next election sol less than 50% of the population actually votes thus meaning power gets handed to the people then we can talk about liberal democracy
@markturner2971
@markturner2971 3 ай бұрын
Well said Shane, personal accountability for actions, is part of a healthy character.
@waynepike4337
@waynepike4337 3 ай бұрын
Two more years of dumb and stupid questions from the young and CLUELESS.
@briansatchell2319
@briansatchell2319 3 ай бұрын
This girl is DEFINATLY. CLULESS
@daddybob6096
@daddybob6096 3 ай бұрын
@waynepike4337 They are very 'one eyed'.
@kiwi792
@kiwi792 3 ай бұрын
these questions are good as they show everyone who the opposition actually is and what they stand for. The important thing is the answers, and Shane Jones gave an outstanding answer. Reaffirming why they need to remain in government.
@pgreen8531
@pgreen8531 3 ай бұрын
Totally agree with you
@pgreen8531
@pgreen8531 3 ай бұрын
​@@daddybob6096always were and always will be
@ryancarper595
@ryancarper595 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic response. Thanks Shane Jones.
@JacquiSinclairNZ
@JacquiSinclairNZ 3 ай бұрын
Great reply Shane
@hariseldon3786
@hariseldon3786 3 ай бұрын
Maybe having access to their culture and identity is a BACKWARDS step towards rehabilitation?
@SirLangsalot
@SirLangsalot 3 ай бұрын
"Having access to their culture" it's such a trite and vacuous statement. Your culture is your operating system, that's all it is.
@synthzizer3324
@synthzizer3324 3 ай бұрын
If I said that it would be deleted
@YourProfessor1974
@YourProfessor1974 3 ай бұрын
How so..?
@hariseldon3786
@hariseldon3786 3 ай бұрын
@@synthzizer3324 Fortunately, psychohistory is becoming a more recognised science... I predict that in 50 years it will become the foundation of most futuristic societal research...
@logicalanswer3529
@logicalanswer3529 3 ай бұрын
@@SirLangsalot Not when the culture includes intentional abuse and criminal behavior.
@shoutgroup1
@shoutgroup1 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant Shane Jones
@operator6786
@operator6786 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Shane, this should be the official end of this subject, to prolong means jibberish or meaningless rhetoric from the opposition..
@Rev_GC
@Rev_GC 3 ай бұрын
How so? The cause of the symptom they are debating wasn't even mentioned.... once that problem is addressed it will iron out a lot of the problems across many sectors in NZ.... and would be repeatable across ALL westernised nations.
@margarettyler58
@margarettyler58 3 ай бұрын
@@Rev_GCdo you mean self responsibility 🤷‍♀️ if you do the crime, you do the time.
@ninjabeatz905
@ninjabeatz905 3 ай бұрын
One People One Land One Ocean One Law
@november50
@november50 3 ай бұрын
lol. Read your comment vertically, 🤭PLO Law.
@Rowanfbird
@Rowanfbird 2 ай бұрын
Tell that to the maori party
@mattgould2402
@mattgould2402 3 ай бұрын
Well said Shane jones
@jazmintamou8891
@jazmintamou8891 3 ай бұрын
Agree with Shane Jones on this one.
@wokesick
@wokesick 3 ай бұрын
This is why I shall continue to vote for NZ First after Peters steps down. We need Maori representation on our side of the bench as well.
@turei7059
@turei7059 3 ай бұрын
Haha didn’t you know. Winnie is going to live forever and continue politics forever too 😊
@kiwi792
@kiwi792 3 ай бұрын
yay. Finally someone states the obvious. Well said. Thank you!
@SpatialandTemporal
@SpatialandTemporal 3 ай бұрын
“You cannot take any people, of any colour, and exempt them from the requirements of civilization -- including work, behavioural standards, personal responsibility and all the other basic things that the clever intelligentsia disdain -- without ruinous consequences to them and to society at large.” - Dr Thomas Sowell
@DubC68
@DubC68 3 ай бұрын
About time someone spoke the truth.
@jacqueopaolo5707
@jacqueopaolo5707 2 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work Mr Jones.Responsibility is paramount.Stop the division and UNITE for a Better Future.
@bigboy0625
@bigboy0625 3 ай бұрын
Maori are in jail because they broke the law. Stop blaming something that happened 200 years ago. Taking actions for your own mistakes and stop blaming others. Or stop breaking laws SIMPLY
@secondchance6603
@secondchance6603 3 ай бұрын
If only people would focus on the importance of understanding the past on its own terms instead of projecting modern ideas and attitudes back into the past.
@kelbatt7729
@kelbatt7729 3 ай бұрын
It was a pretty big thing that happened. The myriad of laws, regulations and statutes created by the colonizers only had one desired outcome. To gain control of the land in NZ . Land creates wealth, inability to create wealth often leads to crime.. The colonizers were morally and legally wrong in their efforts to gain land. Europeans did this all over the world. Every westernized country now has disproportionate wealth and income levels between the original inhabitants and the European colonizers. SIMPLY how it is.
@MrRamyon74
@MrRamyon74 3 ай бұрын
⁠@@kelbatt7729 Today’s Maori wouldn’t even exist without colonisation, nor would we have a modern functioning society if it had not happened.. Quit with the simplistic revisionist history which paints colonisation in only a negative light..
@roseadams8003
@roseadams8003 Ай бұрын
Yes don’t blame that and don’t even blame your dad childhoods as an excuse. Everyone has trauma in the past
@lindamckenzie6500
@lindamckenzie6500 3 ай бұрын
Wonderful! Keep telling them the truth Shane ...eventually they may get the message.....
@kelbatt7729
@kelbatt7729 3 ай бұрын
His current Truth is 180 degrees flipped from the truths he was saying a few years ago , before his ministers salary.
@iainseymour-hart3347
@iainseymour-hart3347 3 ай бұрын
There are too many victims of violence. People are afraid to go out for a walk in the street, take a bus or jump on a train. They think twice about going out for a meal. We must make sure all children attend school to learn the necessary life skills and acceptable behaviour. Good parenting and an engaging education are what society needs for its children.
@Rev_GC
@Rev_GC 3 ай бұрын
....the education system has become a major part of the problem that creates the symptoms being debated here.
@seanodwyer4322
@seanodwyer4322 2 ай бұрын
ahh victim off demons you write about- iff you or public want my story post- Sean O'Dwyer- 136- 140 hobson street.- Auckland 1010.- new Zealand./ maha aotearoa.'''
@mabear9238
@mabear9238 14 күн бұрын
Totally agree, good parenting is paramount but unfortunately there is a seriously worrying number of bad parenting and family violence among some maori families as is well known, which is one of the main factors for high maori crime rates and jail numbers. But as we know the good ole maori politicians in tpm, the green party and Labour will never admit it because it's easier to blame Colonisation, the Govt, the Police and the list just goes on, on who they will look to blame instead of where the real blame lies, at home with the perpetrators, the parents.
@4evaavfc
@4evaavfc 3 ай бұрын
The victims get less justice than the crims. Well said Mr Jones.
@pleng1
@pleng1 3 ай бұрын
Shane…. No words…I wish your people can follow your example of a proud Māori trying to get back the self respect and honour of a true Māori.
@runforrestrun1965
@runforrestrun1965 3 ай бұрын
Go Shane, very good answers to race based political point scoring questions
@mabear9238
@mabear9238 14 күн бұрын
Well said, so sick of all this race base political point scoring, that woman clearly didn't listen to Shane's replies or give a hoot about the victims of these criminals, all she cared about was glorifying these poor criminals, such hard done by criminals. She was Outrageous.
@pameladoar2415
@pameladoar2415 3 ай бұрын
Well said. Time for every human to be responsible for self.
@EuropeanImpact-r8q
@EuropeanImpact-r8q 3 ай бұрын
easy to take responsibility when your people had nothing, so they came to take from others. be mighty easy. had nothing anyway, worlds you bloody oyster. Ill take responsibility for my response towards your peoples actions.
@logicalanswer3529
@logicalanswer3529 3 ай бұрын
Good point. Only an ignorant racist would disagree with that.
@kenbearsley8322
@kenbearsley8322 3 ай бұрын
The correction system is not to blame for the amount of maori's in jail. The correction staff are there to keep the prisoners safe, fed, inside etc. Like other comments, if ya do the crime ya do the time. All those supposed opposition mp's think about is the criminals. What about all the victims of the crimes?! They get treated worse than the criminals.
@vanadavis2446
@vanadavis2446 Ай бұрын
Awesome Shane Jones..Māori need to take responsibility and accountability for themselves & stop blaming everyone else for their mistakes….life is about choice !
@bronwynsearle2117
@bronwynsearle2117 3 ай бұрын
Well said Shane 🇳🇿😊 tpm don't like the truth. That's their problem 😂
@jeannibarber1799
@jeannibarber1799 2 күн бұрын
Among many others😅
@SirLangsalot
@SirLangsalot 3 ай бұрын
I'm tired of Maoridom thinking they've been so heavily victimised. What about Jewish people? No group of humans have been more despised and dehumanised than Jews, but they consistently excel in business, the arts, science etc....
@daddybob6096
@daddybob6096 3 ай бұрын
Strongly agree!
@MaureenDunn-g1n
@MaureenDunn-g1n 3 ай бұрын
And WAR! 😮‍💨😕
@olliemoose2020
@olliemoose2020 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately the Jews bring a lot of there troubles on them selves with the attitude and the belief that they are the chosen one’s by the decree of there religion.😂
@Rev_GC
@Rev_GC 3 ай бұрын
Oooof. That delusion had aged terribly before WWII. "Who are you that does not know your history?" Likely someone de-educated by a subverted education system.....
@Gumpmachine1
@Gumpmachine1 2 ай бұрын
@@MaureenDunn-g1nbecause they surrounded by neighbours who want to destroy them and make them victims again.
@AlWright-jl3fi
@AlWright-jl3fi 3 ай бұрын
THANK YOU SHANE!!!! SICK AND TIRED OF THE VICTIM MENTALITY... WHEN THEY ARE THE ONES DOING THE CRIMES??? PLEAXE MAKE IT MAKE SENSE???
@EuropeanImpact-r8q
@EuropeanImpact-r8q 3 ай бұрын
Your people committed war crimes and you shouldn't even be here. your people destroyed a culture, not long ago either, within my parents life times and long before that. your only the victims of a response your ancestors caused. its even weirder that the Pakeha today use the same excuses they did long ago when they were still doing the same thing. the fact that you cant see the pattern is beyond me, but it would explain why maori were able to outsmart pakeha despite the numbers.
@Rev_GC
@Rev_GC 3 ай бұрын
Find my comment and it will make sense after you get over the initial shock of being presented with reality.
@JeaneGenie
@JeaneGenie 3 ай бұрын
My goodness what an incredible bunch of unintelligent questions came from that green MP. Amazing in the 21st century we could have somebody of such slow calibre representing the people.
@MrCaesartheman
@MrCaesartheman 3 ай бұрын
I think you mean 'low caliber,' which your comment has demonstrated
@EuropeanImpact-r8q
@EuropeanImpact-r8q 3 ай бұрын
'Low caliber’ My goodness, can you guys even speak your own language properly?
@LibbyBarron-r9j
@LibbyBarron-r9j 3 ай бұрын
Quote of the century👍. Thank you🙏. We appreciate you and your unification of all New Zealanders. ❤
@Wairoa4ever
@Wairoa4ever 3 ай бұрын
Hokai Rangi WAS a complete WASTE of Money. Gert the stats of those who went through it and DINT come back to prison. How much of that money was WASTED on Hui, Iwi parties.. YES a bloody lot.
@waenmanson3489
@waenmanson3489 3 ай бұрын
Well said Mr Jones - you need to be New Zealand's Prime Minister.
3 ай бұрын
David Seymour is another contender for PM too.
@michaelsmith2126
@michaelsmith2126 3 ай бұрын
Maori leaders and definitely those pretending to be advocating for Maori in government…need to turn their focus into one of helping those Maori and non Maori communities/ sectors of society, be better citizens and people… this starts from simple basic principles… purpose, respect, love of self, love of family and patriotism for New Zealand
@november50
@november50 3 ай бұрын
Something the tax payer(government's) settlements were supposed to be for.
@patriceking9583
@patriceking9583 3 ай бұрын
@@november50100%
@sclark9011
@sclark9011 3 ай бұрын
@@november50 3 billion dollars later and no change...the maori elites are squandering the money and it's not filtering down to the real need. it is a big fraudulent free ride on the gravy train at everyone else's expense blaming everyone else for the problem but themselves.
@dennis-qu7bs
@dennis-qu7bs 3 ай бұрын
Well said
@stevehughes1510
@stevehughes1510 3 ай бұрын
Can we get rid of the Greens from Parliament, they're a waste of time and money, also TPM.
@richardmunford9352
@richardmunford9352 2 ай бұрын
Exactly And if the bullshit that was climate change was exposed for the lies it is we would hardly need the Greens I wonder if anyone in this woke party know that the founder Patrick Moore pulled out because of communist infiltration😊
@KINGSFORDLIFE
@KINGSFORDLIFE 3 ай бұрын
Ka pai Matua Shane 💪
@karenherangi6125
@karenherangi6125 Ай бұрын
My late Mum and Dad ran a carving and weaving classes for rangatahi. Doing this is good for all rangatahi on the motu. It's the greatest gift all Maori should participate in. ❤👍👍👍💗💗💗to gain those skills . My Mum and Dad were the bomb. All the rangatahi loved them. 🎉
@Homegrownmusic591
@Homegrownmusic591 3 ай бұрын
Well said. Everyone is a victim of something but learning how to overcome things is something that needs to be taught more.
@kelbatt7729
@kelbatt7729 3 ай бұрын
A whole race is trying to learn how to overcome the fact that their country was stolen from them.
@fredfinks
@fredfinks 8 күн бұрын
I forgot to take out the garbage bins and didnt vacuum the house because of the battle of carthage.
@kaydars
@kaydars 3 ай бұрын
It's about time someone said that in parliament. Under the treaty, maoris have a responsibility to behave like good, law abiding citizens. Maoris are "overrepresented" in the prison system because they are not meeting their treaty obligations. They need to stop leveraging their race and bad decisions against the rest of the nation for more resources and more leniency for their bad behaviour.
@rahowherox1177
@rahowherox1177 2 ай бұрын
ssshhhhhh... treaties (inc this one) have only 1 side having obligations apparently.
@erniepeterson9569
@erniepeterson9569 3 ай бұрын
You need to stop that cause we're all one people. If they didn't get in trouble, they wouldn't be in jail.
@toshadavinci5379
@toshadavinci5379 3 ай бұрын
Tribalism and stupidity dont mix regardless of how much you want to play the victim
@fredfinks
@fredfinks 8 күн бұрын
I forgot to take out the garbage bins and didnt vacuum the house and stole things because of the end of the roman empire.
@rianeald6853
@rianeald6853 3 ай бұрын
🎉 well said Shane well said about time someone stood up to this woke poor me crap
@cpnurseries
@cpnurseries 3 ай бұрын
Spot on Shane Jones. I was a Probation Officer for 20 years - you're spot on. There has been a focus on reducing Maori offending for decades - but nothing changes... the focus absolutely needs to be on the victims. The only people who benefitted from Hokai Rangi were the management - money for sitting in meetings quoting their whakapapa..... the staff got more cultural supervision than the inmates!
@sclark9011
@sclark9011 3 ай бұрын
All this woke emphasis on maori whakapapa but ready to schidt on their very own earopean whakapapa when it suits them and there's a freeride on the gravy train. not they don't reject the coloniser's money and technology and Harleys, kfc, hoodies and free government housing and dole free money....did i mention colonisers money???
@LawdyMay
@LawdyMay 3 ай бұрын
Why does "colonisation" only affect some Maori and not all? Could that be because it's the latest excuse to justify those behaving badly?
@rahowherox1177
@rahowherox1177 2 ай бұрын
in the same way childhood abuse only effects (in terms of future imprisonment or cyclical abuse) some of the victims and some do good... ie, it effects all, but some can overcome it to the point where you wouldnt know.
@allisterbolstad6417
@allisterbolstad6417 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Shane for saying what we all know
@daisyandcoffee1
@daisyandcoffee1 Ай бұрын
What you know 😂
@berdugosocials9854
@berdugosocials9854 3 ай бұрын
Amen!
@robeastham5357
@robeastham5357 3 ай бұрын
Well said! and we have the exact same issue in Australia. What's terrifying is law enforcement are too scared to enforce the law in places like Alice Springs as it will inflate the numbers further, which means its perfectly fine for young Aboriginal kids to smash up the CBD every night and intimidate non-aboriginal people. .
@fionaforward3358
@fionaforward3358 3 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@junehearne1302
@junehearne1302 2 ай бұрын
Gotta love Shane Jones for getting straight to the point.
@alanduff6
@alanduff6 3 ай бұрын
Perfectly put, matua Jones.
@bobbyperu4683
@bobbyperu4683 3 ай бұрын
Can you send this guy over to Australia please? God, we need somebody like him.
@stephenscales4799
@stephenscales4799 3 ай бұрын
Great points Mr Jones, and yet they do not hear.
@lanalouise
@lanalouise 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Mr Jones for speaking up, unfortunately too many others will find that he said offensive but it's the truth. What happened to you as a child is not your fault but as an adult your growth is your responsibility and there is plenty of support out there, opportunity and privilege.
@evelyn2178
@evelyn2178 3 ай бұрын
They have a victim mentality and blame it on everyone but themselves, don't want to go to jail, DON'T commit crimes. Why haven't the parents raised their children correctly, money will not make them commit less crimes. They need to take responsibility for their own selves, but NO, they blame everyone for their issues. How many of them re-offend, many do, it becomes a life style. Stop making excuses for them, they get so many opportunities in life but piss it up the wall.
@blancarosabeltranvelazquez4176
@blancarosabeltranvelazquez4176 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!.
@daddybob6096
@daddybob6096 3 ай бұрын
Not only Maori victims, but also Maori offenders on white victims??? Very Common.
@olliemoose2020
@olliemoose2020 3 ай бұрын
Yes and a lot of attacks are rascally driven by Māori offender’s.
@logicalanswer3529
@logicalanswer3529 3 ай бұрын
That is why the criminal sympathizing Labour, made "culturally sensitive" name suppression laws and gave voting rights back to prisoners.
@FlavorTownCityCouncil
@FlavorTownCityCouncil 7 күн бұрын
She is a great example of why women cannot be given authority. Numbers? Logic? Reason? Nope. Pure emotion.
@GrantCampbell-er3vk
@GrantCampbell-er3vk 3 ай бұрын
The victim and racist cards are always the cheapest to play. Most of us have the intelligence to think otherwise.
@kelbatt7729
@kelbatt7729 3 ай бұрын
then why do studies show you are 6 times more likely to go to jail for the EXACT same crime - if you are Māori?
@jsurinderveygal561
@jsurinderveygal561 3 ай бұрын
cheers Mr Jones
@barryhedley9995
@barryhedley9995 3 ай бұрын
Take away colonisation.. Then blame what??? If no treaty then what, blame game will continue.. Humans huh.😢
@richardhenry5015
@richardhenry5015 2 күн бұрын
I wish that probing precise questions and directly answered questions like this would apply to the South African parliament. Instead we often have questions i dont understand and babling on by government, but never answering the question. Well done NZ
@joebloggs2862
@joebloggs2862 3 ай бұрын
Exactly right.
@laneayr6894
@laneayr6894 22 күн бұрын
Again and again this man speaks the truth with common sense at the fore
@TomasFunes-rt8rd
@TomasFunes-rt8rd 3 ай бұрын
You just got yourself a new subscriber on the strength of that one video, New Zealand First ! Looking forward to bingewatching soon
@MrUser1million
@MrUser1million 3 ай бұрын
Well said Shane
@geoffellis1093
@geoffellis1093 3 ай бұрын
RCA...........Bad parenting. Well said Shane.
@clintvanzyl8497
@clintvanzyl8497 2 ай бұрын
Time for the treaty to be used as the toilet paper it’s worth. Time for Māori to stop blaming everyone else for their problems and accept responsibility.
@Neo_Red_Pill
@Neo_Red_Pill 3 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@MacOne53
@MacOne53 3 ай бұрын
They can't justify their behaviour by blaming someone else. If you don't commit a crime no time.
@kiwitransgirl
@kiwitransgirl 3 ай бұрын
Well said mr jones
@chrisballingall5972
@chrisballingall5972 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant points Shane. Well said !
@REwing
@REwing 3 ай бұрын
Oh dear!! Only Shane can point the finger where it hurts!! Maori must educate their families in the home of the does and don’ts to make an honest society!!
@kelbatt7729
@kelbatt7729 3 ай бұрын
Like the all the honesty displayed by the colonizers when they killed us and stole our land under the belief that they had a more honest society. Rubbish
@namaspetelo2144
@namaspetelo2144 3 ай бұрын
The Maoris failed themselves.
@keithlowe9037
@keithlowe9037 3 ай бұрын
Perfect!
@robwakefield4699
@robwakefield4699 3 ай бұрын
You don’t ‘plan’ a prison population, it’s not meant to be a mirror of society. You don’t go to prison for being a law abiding citizen.
@ashdoginc
@ashdoginc 2 ай бұрын
My ancestors immigrated to New Zealand with hardly anything, they could barely speak english, their culture was not british, but adapted themselves to make the most of the opportunities this country provides to become fully independent and give themselves a comfortable lifestyle. Many Maori need to stop the argument of colonisation and the crys of victimisation because it just fuels racism.
@cheeks7050
@cheeks7050 2 ай бұрын
Maybe it's the Māori's job to reduce their over representation in prison, rather than the state's.
@BobTurner68
@BobTurner68 23 күн бұрын
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