She-Hulk - It's A "Comedy"

Since we're just a day or two out from the release of She-Hulk Attorney At Law, which I'm sure will be a hilariously entertaining legal comedy, I thought I'd take a look at some of the clips that have been released so far, so we can all bask in the glow of comedy gold.

[@TheCriticalDrinker]

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[@FrostyFrosto]

Stupid bots

[@johnnynoname2259]

Loving the new book!

[@NeekSquad]

I hope you do a video on the new League of the own series

[@greatscott5690]

@thecritical drinker do you not like The Orville? I thought after their first season, where they were clearly trying to find their footing, the following two were great :)

[@tripplordofinconvenience9953]

E

[@baileybrinker5935]

The fact that Hulk isn’t in a rage after her bitter tirade proves that he, in fact, is superior at managing his anger.

[@ruquang89]

well yeah because he's had to deal with worse than mean words

[@Ahfeku]

@@ruquang89 nothing burns more than a narcissistic remarks from a perfectly goddess strongest creature. Except being beaten the shit out by a mad titan, rain down by a squadron of alien gunners, and fighting a clone of yourself. Don't forget wielding the infinity gauntlet which supposedly take your life force out of you.

[@mudamuda482]

Dude been a hulk for 15 years? And the she-hulk 2 days but still acts superior to hulk is kinda bad writing wished they fix this stupid things like Woman always good at anything vs men are always wrong

[@ruquang89]

@@mudamuda482 i still love the fact she says "i'm an expert at controlling my anger" while losing her temper

[@Tom-rd8dd]

@@mudamuda482 The whole mcu 4th phase is just the last one make new femal heros that are just old heros but perfect with 0 flaws and no action for their superior complex to the old one like the femal loki ( I forgor the name ) she hulk, and that green arrow knock off

[@obits3]

In episode 1, she lectures Bruce about less experienced men explaining things to her. Meanwhile, Bruce is a guy with 15 years of experience being lectured by a woman with a few days of experience.

[@luiz8755]

hey, no logic allowed here sir

[@Individual_Lives_Matter]

But she can already do anything he can but better… whomp whomp

[@hemmydall]

10 years of experience getting over a problem she didn't have to begin with, which is causing him to view her experience with bias. So yeah, a fair judgement imo.

[@ForBraig]

@@hemmydall she hulk is a stupid character. LeTs MaKe A gIrL HuLk Durr Durr

[@ganju_san2675]

@電話 Spock is already struggling with the fact the closest thing to true Star Trek is the animated show : Lower Decks

[@SizzlingMMA]

I cant wait for her to lecture Matt Murdock about how hard it is to be a women in law, and for him to just sit there and take it while he goes back to reading his brail.

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

And if he says he’s blind she’ll just say “you have your whiteness to lean on you have no idea what it’s like being a giant green woman I’m so oppressed” even though she can literally just turn back into white woman Jennifer Walters.

[@erichendrickson8319]

Or he wishes he was deaf so he wouldn't have to hear her lecture.

[@hiddenbutdeadly]

Watch her produce a 47 page document, slam it on his desk, tell him to actually read what the law is....for him to wave his hands over his eyes and her go "Ohhh, right...blind yeah!" (and if they want to go extra shitty) "that's your excuse every time isn't it?"

[@Antonio-ys5zd]

@@erichendrickson8319 maybe he still retains the hear restrain he had in season 3 of Daredevil. Be better than enhanced hearing

[@tackyoptic]

I'm not mentally prepared for any of the shittly blind jokes that will inevitably come out of this encounter

[@nyzmikey]

Hulk: “You wouldn’t like me when I’m angry.” She-Hulk: “You wouldn’t like me.”

[@Jezebel485]

Underrated comment

[@jaunzelmullins1508]

The hulk's 'other head': "I'd still hit tho. So... That's up for debate 😅"

[@JohnSmith-wh2ob]

That’s a family guy clip You wouldn’t like me when I’m angry I don’t like you now 😂

[@dand3953]

... "er, actually, you don't like me." This occurs to her right before the suddenly traditional Hulk crushes the green slime of toxic feminism oozing out of her personality. "Puny she-Hulk!"

[@hajidle]

This comment should be highest rated for sure

[@ericwilson6444]

My favorite part is where She-Hulk defeated all of her enemies by finding mean Tweets from 2010.

[@johnroscoe2406]

And Jan 6 was mostly peaceful it was antifa undercover doing the violence right?

[@reggieherod8678]

Your hilarious

[@Shockkings0714]

MCU Phase Bore

[@cibinomin6540]

@@reggieherod8678 his hilarious?

[@stevejones69420]

@@cibinomin6540he meant what he said "Your hilarious"

[@lousbee_]

They are trying to make Jen smarter than Bruce Banner, a literal genius, who helped invent TIME TRAVEL. She is a lawyer, for gods sake.

[@RichardStrong86]

Where are you getting that from? Your imagination?

[@BrokenSmokinSpokes]

@@RichardStrong86 Everything said is pretty much fact...wtf are you on about? These women literally portrayed she hulk as faster, stronger and smarter than Bruce in this heinous tv series...

[@donaldtoonsberry832]

@@BrokenSmokinSpokes Winter is coming.

[@tasjalo1411]

@@BrokenSmokinSpokes Where in the hell did you get that from? Did you really not see it? How was she portrayed as stronger? Throwing a boulder a few feet further than his - at which Bruce then throws one into fucking orbit? Did that make you think it showed She Hulk as stronger? Did you go "reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" at her first throw and have a stroke as you base your idea of masculinity on the exploits of a puffed up green CGI caricature of male power fantasy?

[@frenchfriedbagel7035]

@@BrokenSmokinSpokes except they didn’t. Bruce threw a boulder further and his thunderclap was stronger.

[@CyborgWolf]

"Obviously Captain America was a virgin" And here we have it, women accusing men of being sex maniacs but judging & mocking someone if he did not have sex.

[@zmss8537]

Virgin shaming is hilarious on men but an attack on women.

[@maapaa2010]

Lets be real.. its not the fact she said he was a virgin or not. The issue with the script is the intent.

[@TheFaceSoap]

all these people think about is sex, and when you don't even want _that_ from them they shit the bed and call you a virgin, incel, whatever funny word for "doesn't get bitches" is in vogue right now

[@perforongo9078]

It's a pretty irrelevant detail about the guy. Does it make him any less heroic? Ofcourse not. The joke boils down to "haha, he was a viiirrrrgin." It just makes her look mean-spirited. The guy was also from the 1940's, when sex before marriage was nowhere near as common as now.

[@DisgruntledDoomer]

If belittling males as virgins and incels is okay, then slut-shaming must be okay, too.

[@cloudshines812]

You know our world is fucked when literally “Morbin Time” is somehow funnier than anything the MCU has put out in the last year

[@Good_Watch]

Honestly I don't even get why there are some people out there that find it's Morbin Time joke hilarious. It ain't funny to me at all. Edit: I wasn't talking about the original comment I was talking bout the meme itself.

[@banana1729]

@@Good_Watch "-🤓"

[@Good_Watch]

@@banana1729 ok?

[@michaeldupaya8166]

@@banana1729 ?

[@usedforks]

@@Good_Watch I think that was the point of the comment, my guy.

[@thebigpig2364]

"being a superhero is for narcissists." well then you are perfect for the job, ma'am.

[@VoytekPavlik]

She should be in the Seven

[@toweypat]

Yeah, that Tony Stark proved he only cared about himself by sacrificing his life to defeat Thanos.

[@collegerebel]

Gotta love that lack of self-awareness.

[@cameronislive]

@@toweypat Yeah and forget Captain America for picking up Thor’s hammer to show how worthy and pure of heart he is. What a Virgin! (sarcasm)

[@olivercrespo2329]

Gotta love how Steve Rogers possibly being a virgin is some kind of attack on his character to these writers. Dude was too busy literally saving the planet multiple times to be caught up in that shit. He had priorities, a duty to his nation and the world.

[@TheBostonboy95]

Ohhhh poor totally real Steve Rodgers 😢

[@dancemeanumber6569]

@@TheBostonboy95 Vaush fan lmfao

[@maguyonseanlewis7696]

@@TheBostonboy95 point?

[@TheBostonboy95]

@@maguyonseanlewis7696 you’re offended for a made up character. Cope + seeth 🤣

[@TheBostonboy95]

@@dancemeanumber6569 imagine being so offended you go through my subs lmfao like “ha you like this person” 😂

[@fahimalvi9521]

I thought this show was a comedy. Then I realized it's a tragedy - Every single Hulk fan

[@de606returns6]

Nice Reference

[@DerekPower]

We truly live in a society

[@abnormallylargemonkey9334]

I didn’t know there were any hulk fans after infinity/endgame

[@lonewolf_a_real1]

I refuse to refer to that big green cheesy bastard as "The Hulk" It's disrespectful to The Hulk.

[@casketbase7750]

Comedy comes from tragedy. And the tragedy is that there is no comedy.

[@jjjakumbbs1043]

Steve being a virgin is perfectly in line with his character. He's a more traditional man from the 1940s where sex outside of marriage was seen as scandalous. Back then when going on dates couples would even have a chaperone or stay in more public places to make sure couples kept it PG. He always has loved Peggy so he's definitely the type of guy to keep his V card for the woman he truly loves and ends up marrying which is Peggy Carter.

[@enn1924]

based af

[@rory8182]

Also didn't she say in the same breath that he was evil for A: Getting a girlfriend and B: Being a virgin WTF was he supposed to do, be gay? Then he would be evil for passing up all the poor lonely women I guess

[@StarWarsExpert_]

I like that you pointed out the views of the past.

[@xminusone1]

That makes sense. I bet he wouldn't even look at her so she can talk all she wants. That's what singles wine moms do best, gossiping.

[@jffry890]

Absolute Chad

[@bloodrunsclear]

'Why does there seem to be a weird effort to tear down (Captain America)?' Because he's literally everything the writers hate: straight, white, Christian, American patriot, selfless hero. He's everything modern Marvel isn't, so he needs to be expunged.

[@da-be-ju]

The movies said nothing of his faith.

[@ab5olut3zero95]

@@da-be-ju “There’s only one God ma’am, and I’m pretty sure He doesn’t dress like that.”

[@sumysim3245]

@@ab5olut3zero95 I do think Cap is Christian, it's really likely considering he was most likely raised in one. Not sure though, but most likely.

[@jaimeruiz7837]

@@da-be-ju imagine not being able to pick up that Steve was and is in fact Christian… marvel definitely won’t bring up Christianity, but they’ll do all this other woke religious nonsense or whatever else.

[@grandmastercadillac9052]

@@jaimeruiz7837 I fear for how they’ll address Daredevil’s Catholicism

[@redhorsepapi]

Remember when Steve Rogers explained to Peggy how he can’t get drunk bcos he a superhuman? Remember when that scene had meaning? Remember when it was supposed to show Steve being all alone and even with his powers he can’t save everyone around him? Remember when the MCU treated its characters with respect and dignity? Yeah, those were the days.

[@Tequila628]

Its*

[@TheMeta141]

ah you mean when characters were serious and had actual depth. ah those were the days.

[@redhorsepapi]

@@Tequila628 thanks

[@abehambino]

Honestly, I hate how much flack phase one gets nowadays. Yeah, at this point it’s become paint by the numbers, but back then it felt fresh and exciting. The hype was well deserved and earned! CA:TFA was a good movie.

[@eljhonny4009]

He’s dead. She hulk doesn’t give a fuck. Plus we all made fun of dead people/famous/important people

[@samblack5313]

The most virtuous human on the planet, ALWAYS does the right thing, first person to sacrifice himself for others, kind, respectful, humble, intelligent, knows what it’s like to be utterly weak and powerless and still doesn’t abuse his strength.. “Yeah but, did you hear he’s a virgin lol” Great job, guys… sell it to kids.

[@eole123456789]

Yes. The goal is to demoralize us. To bring down everything that was once praised.

[@fakename3208]

Even more interesting, chastity was a virtue for much of human history, even for men. Turns out that everyone having sex with everyone is a bad idea. We are completely backwards as a society.

[@IcePhysicsGaming]

These people would have mocked Jesus while hanging on the cross, when you put in that way.

[@nigeltheoutlaw]

This is what happens when you have awful people try to write heroes. They can't comprehend heroism, and find the very idea anathema to their ideology.

[@Herr.P]

Yeah Cap is next on the chopping block it seems.

[@ruquang89]

"i'm an expert at controlling my anger" she says while losing her temper

[@LucDaMan4]

That was the""""""""""point""""""""" of the scene because she immediately stopped being angry

[@chrisjordon864]

@@LucDaMan4 calm down women don't get your knickers in a twist

[@KaseyC.]

They could've done so much with that scene if she actually fully Hulked out and went on a rampage.

[@rory8182]

"I'm an expert at controlling my anger" Saying to a man who has basically been having PTSD for all of his life bar maybe his early 20s

[@ItsAGundam]

I forgot people expect me to watch this without good health insurance as if my therapist works for free and enjoys my many late night existential crisis calls.

[@paulnash9851]

Papa Gundam, can’t wait to hear why you’ve got to say on this

[@MirandaSinistra]

Sucks Susan keeps de-monitizing you, you'd make bank off this garbage.

[@bZman]

We await your disappointed sighs Gundam. Your misery brings us joy

[@rudedudereviews596]

This is gonna hurt if they don't do Howard the duck as an illegal alien maybe married to Marcy or Darsy from Thor

[@solidsnakeshugecake]

69th like 😏

[@EddyA1337]

The MCU is turning in to a parody of itself

[@MB-fy8kk]

always has been

[@olii921]

Remember when it actually took itself seriously? I miss that.

[@arealhuman2409]

Lmao that's a good way to put it

[@chasehedges6775]

@@arealhuman2409 💯💯

[@Shockkings0714]

MCU Phase Bore

[@clownetto981]

"Captain America was a virgin" An unmarried man from the 1940s and a time where sex before marriage was a sin in a very Christian nation? No shit. Why does that make him less?

[@ibrokemykeyboard]

It’s one of like 3 insults they have.

[@asc3nded397]

The fact that they are trying to deface a paradigm of justice, honor and selflessness really just reveals their own flaws and insecurities. These people are selfish to the point that they can only make content that is appealing to their very narrow minded ways and beliefs and are insulted to think that anyone thinks differently from them.

[@cristoff30]

This is from a group that celebrates STDs. A monkypox on all their homes.

[@Kostas_Dikefalaios]

It still is a sin.

[@origami83]

@@Kostas_Dikefalaios Sins dont excist, they are all made up by a cult.

[@bnsz8704]

Love how the women drives and immediately crashes. What a strong and independent women

[@compmanio36]

Even in their own pornography, they continue the tried and true tropes we all know are based on reality.

[@unclekarl5219]

“I like how the genius doctor strange crashes his car” seriously wtf is this comment trying to say

[@unclekarl5219]

@@compmanio36 can you stop thinking about porn for five minutes

[@bnsz8704]

@@unclekarl5219 just funny cause it’s a stereotype that women are bad at driving

[@unclekarl5219]

@@bnsz8704 71% of car accident casualties were men

[@manamaster6]

She Hulk, the feminist character, proceeds to make fun of Steve for being a virgin, as if his worth depended on having sex and fulfilling the gender roles of the evil heteropatriarchy that objectifies women. That seems like the most self-defeating arguments a show designed to convey THE MESSAGE has done.

[@ironmonkey1512]

Feminism has never needed to make sense.

[@-carpet-]

She wasnt making fun of him tho, she was curious at first and then in the post credit shes drunk while talking about it and seemed sad about his story, but she never mocked him for being a virgin

[@pallor_mortis]

@@-carpet- Exactly! That’s exactly Drinkers point. They edited the trailer to make it look like she was mocking him, hence creating these arguments online leading up to the shows premiere. It’s all just to create interest for a crappy show. And that’s what wrong with Marvel today.

[@jacobblair6941]

It's a meme and they played into the meme of is Captain America a virgin. Lmao

[@zr_1234]

Because she's not written by feminists. She's girl bossing which is basically a misogynistic character being played by a woman.

[@sarcasm-83]

Banner/Hulk as a character: A brilliant scientist that had a tragic accident that could've killed him, but instead, it made him into a monster he couldn't control. Gave him a side that even his friends had to worry about. A side, that at any time could put his loved ones at risk and destroy entire cities and sometimes even did. Tormented, he tried to shoot himself but transformed before the bullet went through his head. He spent years learning to deal with it, control it, accept it, perfect it and eventually found a way to incorporate it to himself and his own identity. She-Hulk as a character: She's better than Hulk, mastered everything in a day and is a woman. * applauds *

[@MaestroPrep]

Cant shoot himself in the head, withstands rockets, and bombs and flying alien caterpillars.. but gets knocked unconscious and gets a Boo-Boo from safety glass.....

[@sarcasm-83]

@@MaestroPrep lol! yep.....

[@francisdominiko362]

well obviously, the wamens are superior. born better. can do no wrong.

[@hemmydall]

Imagine that, the Smart Hulk form that reduces his power in favor of balance wasn't as strong as other times he's been on screen... She didn't "master" anything, she just didn't have to find balance like Bruce did. All his training was based on that. Look at the Hulk Clap; his was way more powerful, and she couldn't do it. She instead figured out a multi-clap version that uses more sound over raw force. I swear everyone wants to get on here and yell before actually thinking.

[@Power5]

She is the same half hulk that banner now is. So she should not be stronger than him, but should be the same amount stronger than a normal female of her size as new hulk is compared to normal men his size. Banner pushed her off the cliff and she was fine without a scratch. Yet Hulk is knocked out with glass.

[@sakei-kun3090]

The scenes where they were “training” together and Hulk, *THE Hulk* got outdone at every physical activity by her literally gave me emotional, spiritual and physical pain. Edit: Ok so apparently Hulk was holding back against her and arguably that makes the scene a lot better but then only including those specific scenes in the trailer makes it clear what kind of audience they were trying to appeal to and it makes me upset. And honestly, I'm mostly just upset about the fact that they've basically completely ruined Hulk's character at this point, like any nuance that Bruce and Hulk had together is just gone with the birth of Prof. Hulk who is supposedly a mix of both the minds and totally not just Bruce in Hulk's body. His character has so much potential still but they're already trying to “replace” him with a character we don't even know or care much about.

[@Reverendshot777]

He literally outdoes her moments later.

[@quantumac]

I could see "She Hulk" outdoing "The Hulk" in dexterity, but anything which requires raw physical strength, The Hulk should do better.

[@anyways4438]

To be fair that specific excercise was Hulk barely lifting his like 500 kilogram self off the ground, while she had to lift her 70 kilogram self at most Edit: Yeah I know Hulk is actually much stronger and should be able to lift himself up, the point I was making is that she hasn't outdone him in that scene at all, as they were lifting completely different bodyweights. You can stop telling me the Hulk is actually strong now.

[@PhilosophicallyAmerican]

@@anyways4438 It's not a matter of weight. That rarely matters to any hulk. This was just a matter of him having the wrong body type.

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

@@Reverendshot777 that’s cuz he’s a toxic fragile male being triggered by the strong independent green woman obviously(sarcasm)

[@excaliburknives3572]

The issue is this show is written as a revenge fantasy against men. They’re acting out a fantasy they wished they could’ve lived in.

[@Yohan-yc2bv]

"Strong and empowered women"

[@collenrung5009]

I wish they'd find another job.

[@johncampbell5929]

Feminism destroying this country

[@xminusone1]

Like being catcalled. They only wish to be attractive enough for that to happen. Which they're not. (The writer I mean, not the actress) and I may add, that anyone who have endured real issues like violence, poverty, being exploited in a job that pay poorly without any choice because they needed money, lost loved one, or had life threatening health issues, are usually very humble and based people. As for people like she hulk, I doubt she even paid for her studies herself by working hard, know what it's like to be hungry. If being mansplained or catcalled is the closest she have been to hardship in her life, she is lucky to have a very easy life.

[@excaliburknives3572]

@@collenrung5009 that’s the issue though. Because they’re known to write this kind of stuff, they are going to get plenty of jobs from other “ strong, independent, female” movies, and or TV shows.

[@naejimba]

Watched the first episode, and She Hulk is the definition of a "Mary Sue." She is completely without flaw in any way, there was no sacrifice to become the "hero," and there is nothing for her to overcome because she just magically can do everything perfect. In fact, the show goes as far to explain WHY she does everything better as it simply being BECAUSE she is a woman. Bleh. Hulk trying to help her learn to control her new powers is then relegated to "mansplaining" because apparently she knows more about being a Hulk in two days than the actual hulk learned in 15 years. And of course it takes every opportunity to degrade every single male character introduced, including Steve Rogers who doesn't have a damn thing to do with the show.

[@r_shan2506]

Everything I said to my bf and what I was thinking you just said! Thank you 😊 I agree

[@danibsen7912]

Isn't she an insufferable leftist feminist? I'd say that is plenty of flaw.

[@hemmydall]

Sounds like you took what happened on screen the wrong way. Almost like you already had a notion about the show before watching it. Its not because she's a woman, the genetic sequence that makes her compatible in a different way isn't related to their gender. The main reason she "does things better" is because she didn't have the whole split personality thing, and Bruce's experience as Hulk mostly deals with that. Its shaped his entire view of it, and that bias played out on how he treated her. The two days of training was trying to be about balance when she already had that, which is why it looked easy for her. I'd point out during their fight, his clap was bigger and more powerful, and she failed to replicate it, but figured out a way to make smaller multi-claps effective. Also, she never stated him being a virgin was bad, or making fun of it. It was simply a theory because he's a celebrity and nobody knows about him (though like most celebrities the obvious answer was yes). Hell, Chris Evans mentioned the virginity thing in interviews in 2015, so its nothing new and has been talked about many times IRL and in the MCU.

[@naejimba]

@@hemmydall "Sounds like you took what happened on screen the wrong way. Almost like you already had a notion about the show before watching it." Nope. I went into it knowing NOTHING, and that is what I observed. She is portrayed as flawless, with no sacrifice to become the hero and nothing to overcome... that is quite literally the definition of a Mary Sue: "a type of fictional character, usually a young woman, who is portrayed as unrealistically free of weaknesses." There is a version of this for men called a Gary Stu... so no, it has nothing to do with bias and everything to do with poor writing and zero character development. All of these kinds of movies (and most literature going back to mythology) are just rehashing the hero's journey, and they missed most of the steps along the way. That is objective criticism. "Its not because she's a woman, the genetic sequence that makes her compatible in a different way isn't related to their gender. The main reason she "does things better" is because she didn't have the whole split personality thing, and Bruce's experience as Hulk mostly deals with that." I'm referring to her being able to control her anger... which is why she was taken to Mexico and Brue doesn't want her to leave. The genetic thing I can accept as a premise, even if it is lazy writing that means she doesn't have to go through all the same trials and character development Bruce did to get to the point where he is now. The challenge she would have had to overcome was controlling her anger, and when Bruce laid this out for her she said: "Here's the thing Bruce, I'm great at controlling my anger. I do it all the time; when I'm catcalled in the street, when incompetent men explain my own area of expertise to me, I do it pretty much every day because if I don't I will get called emotional, or difficult, or might just literally get murdered. So I'm an expert at controlling my anger because I do it infinitely more than you." So because she is a woman and has to deal with catcalling and mansplaining she is better at controlling her anger. Even though Bruce lost his first love when an experiment went wrong and turned him into a monster who killed several people, which led to him being hunted relentlessly by his own government, led by the father of the woman he loved, who ended up losing everything and everyone he cared about and had his entire life ripped away from him and had to go into hiding for years, and then had to fight several wars including threats from alien life, then got lost in space for years while the Hulk took over and he was trapped powerless inside his own body, while he was forced to fight as a gladiator, then had to fight in another war, losing the 2nd love of his life in the process (let alone watching many of his friends die that they were able to bring back) and severely injuring his arm in the process that has just NOW healed as this story is taking place. It is completely tone deaf, insulting, and laughable. You don't think MAYBE Bruce might have more reason to be angry?! There is no excuse for this shit and anyone who defends this is a complete imbecile. So the ONLY challenge she is forced to overcome she is magically better at in two days than the actual Hulk was in 15 years! Oh, and let's not pretend for one second that the implication that a man in his late thirties has never had sex is not a negative one. You are reaching here, grasping desperately at straws to defend this nonsense like a good consoomer to justify this trash. He wasn't even in the show and they made him the butt of a joke! Why are they insistent upon tearing down legacy male characters as if that makes the new female replacements more likeable? We saw the same thing recently with Thor and with Loki, and it pisses the fans of these characters off and makes them hate the new ones. Oh, and by the way, in the show they mentioned catcalling and even had a scene of men trying to hit on a woman and making her uncomfortable to show that men are bad (seriously, besides Bruce there is not a single positive depiction of a male shown, and he was constantly being shown up).... and then in the end credits she objectifies Rogers by talking about his ass! Talk about hypocrisy. You can have one or the other, but putting them together and in the same episode is oblivious. This episode was dogshit. The writing was dog shit. The character development was dog shit. The comedy was dog shit. The constant pandering to feminism was dog shit. The CGI was dogshit. This is CW level garbage and considering that by the end of phase two they already grossed over $10 billion just at the box office isn't it reasonable to expect something of better quality?

[@paisano6830]

STOP 🛑

[@GeraltofRivia22]

The difference between the comics and the show is the context. She stood out in the comics for her witty quips and 4th wall breaking because that wasn't something other comics did. But every MCU movie and show now is like that.

[@chasehedges6775]

It’s like Deadpool but without the self awareness or the humor

[@THEKXRMANETWORK]

No other MCU property breaks the 4th wall though…

[@francescofioroni70]

And? Where' the problem so?

[@TrigonAZR]

True. Everything MCU does now is surface level

[@spider-man500]

@@francescofioroni70 Because EVERYTHING in the MCU is comedy comedy comedy.

[@Ob1sdarkside]

This really hammers home how good Steve Rogers character arc was, and why we'll never have a marvel Superhero character like that again

[@Venakis1]

Tony Stark and Steve Rogers made me love MCU movies. Now they are both gone, so does my interest for MCU.

[@ChrisAlbertH47]

Iron Man was pretty good too. He's the OG that literally started it all.

[@Ob1sdarkside]

@@ChrisAlbertH47 True, really enjoyed those movies

[@MajorFuzzelz]

Bro try living in the present. It is a lot more. His Arc wasn’t perfect, you are just remembering it that way.

[@shinobixa4]

Also Black Panther

[@hot_soup4319]

If the show had been literally just she-hulk beating the shit out of villains with no talking, no story, no cohesive plot, it'd still be infinitely better than what we got.

[@BeanCasserole-wg7wu]

It's hilarious how true that is

[@whatwasisaying1338]

Iron Man - the 1st one - told a great story. It had a great character arc and development while telling a fully-contained story. When the crossovers became successful, Disney said forget telling strong standalone stories and focus on selling other movies within our movies. I don't care much for the MCU now. The films are popcorn fodder at best.

[@eyezj7412]

Disney didn't get involved until MCU phase 2. Also when it started getting shit 🤔

[@mojo31979]

I agree, but the MCU was heading in that direction before all of this. Anyway, I like popcorn fodder. I don't need deep, compelling stories based on Superheroes and Comic Books. I mean, the source material ranges anywhere between comically stupid to dark and dramatic. So whatever, if it sucks, it sucks.

[@stoneymahoney9106]

Agreed. They followed the formula Iron man laid out sooooo slavishly that everyone ended up talking like they're in a 2-hour episode of a 90's american sitcom. I watched up to Guardians before I realized I just didn't care about anyone other than Iron Man, and his arc had already reached a natural end-point so I dipped. Every other movie is just a memory black hole - can't even remember the villains at all!

[@zer0-117]

I thought something similar when I watched the first Thor movie for the first time in a while. Thor goes through a great character arc, the original soundtrack is incredible and you don't need any prior MCU experience to understand it all. I couldn't believe how much more I liked Thor 1 over the shit we get now

[@bethanyh1637]

Correction: When the crossovers became successful, Disney said, "Hey! We can buy that and milk the shit out of it." And that they have. The milks all gone and even the shit is unformed and barely digested.

[@TheGreatPooyah]

I can’t get over how CRINGE the marketing for this show has been… when will Disney learn that people are sick of this crap

[@TheGreatPooyah]

@just i c e may not have gave an explanation… but now I know how to make delicious potato wedges HAHAHA

[@JonathanGaeta]

They won’t stop, and it won’t stop anytime soon unfortunately

[@ericjohnson7234]

when the money stops coming in. all a business cares about is profit. and remember all entertainment is profit too.

[@SW-fn7cl]

Millions still watch it though, even the ones who are sick of this crap!

[@LyaksandraB]

When people are actually sick of it and do something about it, like stop watching. For now it's just empty words while everyone still makes dizni a pretty penny.

[@casualcausalityy]

You nailed it, this whole thing feels like a late millenial woman's stand up set, that is failing to mask how lonely and sad her life has become

[@FFSWTFisThis]

Damn...well said

[@andersschultz5588]

So it’s basically every Amy Schumer act with some bad CGI…

[@kingbowser6991]

Perfectly said

[@ynkybomber]

So it's a Netflix "comedy" show then?

[@redhorsepapi]

I would legit believe it if someone told me that Amy Schumer would be writing and directing this show

[@Hats502]

Can’t wait for the “time of the month” episode where She Hulk just sits on the couch crying and eating ice cream while watching shitty sitcoms all episode. Man, remember when Marvel movies actually used to be good and we saw characters grow after making mistakes or enduring hardships? Crazy how fall they’ve fallen from grace. They used to make some pretty damn good movies that not only hold up as a good movie on its own but also set up a bigger scope

[@babacalouche]

like any empire, Marvel has let woke people enter his kingdom and they will destroy it from within....phase 1, 2 and 3 were awesome. Phase 4 is at the moment " average" or " meeeh " ...and if shE huLK is what DiSnEy wants for MaRvEl for their next phases, they will find out that empires can be destroyed and have very sad ending.

[@doggedsam42-75]

And it’ll be some stupid cut away joke

[@PUNISHERMHS_2021]

@@DerpyPotato-cf8qh I thought Shang Chi was fun

[@unclekarl5219]

It’s not a movie it’s a tv show

[@unclekarl5219]

Also why do you immediately assume a show about a woman will have a period centric episode

[@c20ux]

"Hey Bruce, I know you've fought in battles with Gods, aliens, killer robots, waking up on a strange planet after 2 years of being unconscious, losing one of your closest friends and a woman you clearly loved... but you don't know what stress is because you've never been catcalled before!" Stupid..

[@Ladywizard]

And the FATHER of another girl you love has the entire US military looking for an excuse for the US to literally declare war on you and hunt you down since technically the norton film is at least semicannon

[@theoparke]

So completely true. This show is already garbage.

[@XxFoguinhoxX]

Wasn't he Hulk in most of those instances, and even the times he wasn't Hulk, he wasn't in any danger...

[@culturecanvas777]

Omg, I didn't realize how cringe that was until you mentioned it. Yes you are right. This is typical woke self-righteousness.

[@BWMagus]

@@XxFoguinhoxX I don't think you understand the post you are responding to...

[@viljamtheninja]

Imagine a man in a mainstream show or movie making fun of a woman for having trouble getting a boyfriend the way she mocks Cap for not having a girlfriend.

[@AzureRoxe]

He'd get crucified by the media.

[@sumairshirazi]

Double standards the guy would get slaughtered by middle age feminists

[@sree3650]

Insecure twitter feminists would have already cancelled him by now lol.

[@nelguinevere4036]

I know we lack the context and the full.... joke.... but the discussion of Steve Rogers' sex life is really not something that gets me super excited. The man is a hero who's done unbelievable things, a beacon of morality and dignity, who's left an enormous mark on the history of this world. There are so many things a lawyer could be discussing with Steve's friend: his decision to go against Ross and Tony, the legal persecution he suffered, even his legal stand as a man who was asleep for 70 years. Like, anything that would tell me she is a lawyer and interested in law things, and could also tell me how much she, a character from within this world, understands the intricacies of the stories told before. Instead she chooses to talk about his sex life. Oh well. Can't wait to see this show now.

[@anotherrandomguy8871]

Dude fought in ww2 fighting hydra, saved cities and the whole planet multiple times, and even saved the whole universe before he retired to live a peaceful life with his love…but oh no, he doesn’t want to have sex, such a terrible dude, he deserves to be mocked for not having/wanting sex. How dare a guy not want sex. That’s what matters to her. Not the fact that Cap and his team have indirectly saved her life in endgame.

[@jonathanbaker4361]

Yeah like Sam says, They need to do better.

[@spankynater4242]

Nah

[@guilhermehank4938]

Half of the universe's beings wouldnt exist if it wasnt for Rogers and Stark. They both deserve monuments built in their honour and instead we get...this

[@maryhernandez8561]

Omg ur so mad about a joke of a fictional character that doesn’t exist n will never exist 😂 even more when I have seen so many guys make that joke online so many times n yet I doubt u would be that mad about it.

[@saulshennan6825]

"Write what you know" = "Write about yourself" -- Every hack writer

[@thenewsatinbobcat5575]

Two predictions I have for this show, either: A. She-hulk will start off not wanting to be a hero then become ecstatic after it gets her fame and belittles others around her to have it kick her in the teeth later when General Ross sends troops to arrest her making her realize the responsibility and hardships heros have and not be egotistical. Or B. Its a villain of the week series to where she belittles everyone around her and blames men for her problems claiming that it is tougher to be a woman and by the end outclasses Bruce and sucker punches the male villain because empowerment.

[@redram6080]

You could have at least put a spoiler warning before you described option B. Sheesh

[@Esperologist]

I'm guessing the villains will fall into two categories: A : Men that she will defeat. B : Women that she will 'show the error of their ways'... and they then circle pow-wow over belittling men... particularly about Cappy focusing on career and thus not having a girlfriend before he was 26. (And She-Hulk will go the whole season tearing down Cappy's reputation.) I can see the next Captain America movie... every woman he saves just laughs in his face about him not getting a date before turning 26.

[@Prodbyjah464]

I think b is probably going to be it, just based off the doo doo brain immature, low quality shit that marvels been putting out lately, tbh I couldn’t care less if it is or isn’t cause I ain’t watching this shit hole

[@richmessia6203]

Or 3 it's canecleled like when wb made batman a black woman with a red wig

[@Cernunnnos]

A would be a really nice subversion, it would make everything we've seen so far be to throw us off the scent. Marvel 5 years ago, I'd say maybe. But I honestly just think it's going to be 8 episodes of girl boss where the only message is "you're perfect, everyone else just needs to realise it."

[@michaelbauer2950]

"Oh, stop it, Jenn, my sides can only split so much." That line just killed me

[@phattjohnson]

An amusement response was had, affirmative.

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

"Lol! Captain America was a virgin!" Well, he was poor, sickly, small, malnourished and overall physically frail. Yet he constantly stood up and confronted injustices that got him beatings. Pretty mask off for them to openly mock a good man at his lowest point.

[@Enigma75614]

It’s pathetic that they delayed Andor so this show wouldn’t get overshadowed by it.

[@paulman34340]

@Raylan Givens But in "modern times" this has been flipped around! Rather then being something admirable, it's now "disgraceful" because people have taken the "sex equals adulthood" too far! You're not an adult but a child unless you banged at least 5 women or in the case of the ladies, in a single day you can't even count your partners in two hands! I'm starting to get reminded of "The 40 year old virgin" where when it was out, those who never watched it assumed it was "mocking" virginity when in reality it was mocking those who "mocked" the concepts of virginity and what you described Raylan! With the titled character being the most mature one in the cast while his horn dog friends DESPITE being married still acting like frat boys and not acting their age at ALL! You'd wonder if they'd be shocked they were accused of cheating with how they constantly wolf weasel and act like horny teenagers that it's impossible NOT to believe they'd cross the line! Plus the ones who mock like that tend to be the most pathetic ones dogging on someone greater then they are by mocking "something" of them that can be seen as admirable as pathetic so they can tell themselves "oh that person is great, grand and beyond a pleb like me.....but their a virgin so I'm still better" as they continue to die inside more and more

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

@@Enigma75614 It's pathetic you care for either

[@Enigma75614]

@@JoshuaKevinPerry Andor actually has a chance of being good.

[@silencedmaxim5889]

@@Enigma75614 Andor has no chance. The only chance it has is disappointing you people who believe this time it'll be different because the trailer was edited better.

[@HologramJay]

The best way to summerize this kind of storytelling, dialogue, and character development..."Did an eleven year old write this?"

[@smilingthroughitall1115]

I've seen better fanfiction written by 11-year-olds.

[@mkm0575]

Making fun of Steve for being a Virgin in the 1940s is like making fun of George Washington for not owning a car. Being raised in that time either meant he was raised in a religious household or adhered to the cultural norms of the time, and applying the dating norms of 2022 to Steve and making fun of him for not achieving the modern view of excellence is just ignorant.

[@vassalofthenight9945]

It's a statement made by people who would also shit on a medieval peasant for making his wife work in the field with him or marrying a 15 year old after trading with her parents for 3 cows. The cultural and historical context doesn't matter to them, they don't understand anything ourside their own norms, they know nothing beyond shaming and pressuring everyone who doesn't submit to their standards. They've abandond any and all deeper values, they know nothing of human virtue - which is apparent when they laugh at the paragon of justice and decency that is Captain America for being a virgin - which was also a virtue during his times but is considered a flaw during ours, for whatever fucking reason. These people are absolutely shallow, vapid, vacuous and worthless, devoid of any inherent value, relating only to the lowest common denominator and the most base and primitive instincts that still linger in humanity.

[@shanouboubou]

@Jason Voorhees ...History books ?

[@The-Lone-Dalek]

@jasonvoorhees5640 no?

[@alden2085]

Someone needs to tell the showrunners that just because we're laughing at them, it doesn't mean they're funny.

[@mrgreenboy644]

We should laugh with them, not at them

[@dejiadeleye5697]

@@mrgreenboy644 They have to earn it first

[@mikespike2099]

MCU stage 4 … a comedy of errors 😂

[@zGJungle]

As if Hulk, a man that can lift buildings, could not lift his own body weight while doing yoga

[@danieldsilva8322]

Exactly man. The guy throws around cars and smashes through literal houses, yet cant carry his own weight lol. Whereas lemme guess, she-hulk is the perfect hulk now. Gosh, Idk how I got past that first episode, it was basically a feminazi rant about how men are bad, and women are so good, aka, fake virtue signalling NO ONE asked for.

[@ComedyBros5]

Who’s even still watching these MCU shows after the nonstop string of dumpster fire they’ve released since Endgame?

[@ollipolli4799]

Once again the only way the writers could write a "strong female" is by tearing down a man. Why can't the woman just be "strong" without the need to humiliate others? Here's a hint to all writers: strong independent people do NOT tear others down. That's something weak and insecure people do. SMH

[@FreakyFriday4Phaggs]

@@ComedyBros5 you should look into Doctor Strange's MoM too. Real piece of shit, i can name 3 MgGuffins from the top and Strange has been Nerfed heavy.

[@stauf09]

Thats feminism for you women are always portrait to be stronger smarter faster than men . Bunch of delusional crap but if it makes them sleep at night it's good.

[@highgamer240]

I feel anyone who watched the first episode to completion deserves some type of an award for making it thru.

[@randallsmith976]

I got through 12 mins

[@shanouboubou]

I was drunk

[@fredhughes4115]

I saw 10 seconds of the scene in the trailer where she was explaining how she could control her temper - and there was no way that I could turn on any episode at all. Ever.

[@thenexgamer5608]

The inability to get drunk thing is a perfect example of where marvel is now. Compare that scene to the first captain America film where Steve realises he can't get drunk. Very different times indeed

[@AdrienMelody]

Dude, that was such a heartwrenching moment that I completely forgot about until you brought it up 😵 It was so sad to see him trying desperately to escape from his pain like that 😢

[@physical_insanity]

To be honest, Hollywood has never understood alcohol in the slightest. Virtually every single movive that depicts alcohol doesn't understand how it works or the culture surrounding it, so it's not surprising they gaffe this, too.

[@daarom3472]

Does anyone know from what movie came the laughing goat at 6:36?

[@markzuckergecko621]

@@physical_insanity like how they'll show a character getting drunk to play up comedic effect, and then 10 seconds later he's suddenly stone sober when that's convenient? That always pisses me off.

[@ngultrum1]

@Simulation algorithm Hopefully we never get Nick Cage Ghost Rider in MCU.

[@ey1615]

This show was written by the people who never took comics and geek culture seriously in the past, before that stuff became mainstream, mocking and bullying those small nerds in their high school. And the main audience of this show are those people too. This show was 100% not created for comic book nerds.

[@dhanyl2725]

Nerd bullying has never actually gone anywhere :'v

[@GibDozer1]

They destroyed it when they made it "cool". Just like everything else the phonies appropriate from the Nerdom. They've got to erase all the nuance and water everything down, so their bland palettes can digest it. It's a shadow of what inspired it now. The semi illiterate masses who can't name a single comic book artist can have this trash...

[@BWMagus]

Yup. Not only that, those people now wonder why there aren't more comic book heroes who are black, female, gay, whatever--well, that's because straight white men were the dominant audience and creative force for comics, with all the other groups mocking and belittling them for it; why would there be a proportionate number of characters with these different demographics, then? This is like asking why rappers don't make more songs about corporate accountants.

[@josie_the_valkyrie]

I don't know. I never cared much for comic books and I'm a woman. But She Hulk was just really lame.

[@princessmarlena1359]

Subcultures have been invaded by the mainstream, the trendies, and the jerks who bullied the outcasts. That’s why they’ve all been ruined.

[@idaniluz652]

She hulk: *complains about mansplaining* Also she hulk at the same time: *womansplains*

[@heyarnold7256]

I think the word is "femsplain" lol.

[@ABodyInProgress]

"womenstruating" - spewing useless verbiage at men instead of just putting in an oral tampon.

[@dariusbrock2713]

More like hulksplains😂

[@rodiusmaximus]

@@heyarnold7256 I've heard it as c u n t s p l a I n

[@miluires3249]

@Zayd That would be an insult to Bruce

[@austinlindberg6085]

I wish I could subscribe a million times over, you deserve it. Your insight is profound and needed in current times. Keep it up, you are appreciated and phenomenal!

[@chuckdawg2799]

The last Daredevil season was really truly good. Thematic, introspective - talking about his faith and religion in general without it being attacking. Amazing fights and cinematography. I think Daredevil is one of the best things netflix has done, and one of the top "MCU" productions of them all.

[@margarethmichelina5146]

Since the show's gonna be remade by Disney, I can imagine Matt Murdoc will be back as a wimpy broken blind man who will get overshadowed by a "Strong Female Character" and he will get nerfed a lot. Even as a lawyer, he will lose his IQ only later get smarted by a female lawyer. I can see the plot from faraway.

[@Dee-nonamnamrson8718]

@@margarethmichelina5146 don't forget, he'll be race-swapped.

[@Jesse-wy9pb]

One of my all-time favorite show along with Punisher! Disney will eff it up for sure.

[@donmynack]

@@margarethmichelina5146 We'll get the stupid Mark Waid version, for sure.

[@CartoonistDave]

@@margarethmichelina5146 and he will renounce his religion.

[@vedanthnair5443]

That scene of Hulk doing yoga nearly made me tear up in disappointment, before the Mcu Hulk was the face of marvel, but these days he's just been turned into a meme

[@andresfajardo6838]

And he sees it as an absolute win!

[@halburd1]

THAT is NOT the hulk. hulk is uncontrolable unpredictable maybe dangerous maybe good roll the dice rage machine. not this weak green ruffalo manure,

[@samuelgonzalez-tovar3936]

Joe Rogan got to him

[@theVictor-isVonDoom]

@@halburd1 he's also loyal to friends like if someone hurt Spidey Hulk would eviscerate them I can't believe Marvel never had the 2 meet in the mcu that's BS and they have the nerve to call themselves 616

[@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805]

*Why's he doing Yoga????* She hulk was supposed to be what the hulk is now. having the hulk be super strong and capable of rational thought makes she hulk redundant.

[@michaelfraser1073]

It wasn't until I saw the trailers for She-Hulk that I realised something: the major problem with the MCU now is that every character has to be funny. No longer are jokes reduced to characters like Stark who regularly joked because it made sense for the character (Stark was a naraccist, narcassists deflect with humour). Now every single character needs to be the 'funny one' and always make quips.

[@michaelfraser1073]

Also, regarding that Cap clip: wasn't that the whole point of his love story with Peggy? That Peggy wanted to be with him before he got the serum?

[@cibinomin6540]

@@Anika-Buster spellcheck before copypasting your comment under every single post

[@gravelly96]

It literally used to just be Tony Stark out of the mains who made jokes. Thor was funny because of his personality, not because he made jokes. But then characters like Star Lord, Ant-Man, Dr. Strange, Peter Parker, even fucking Captain Marvel were introduced and they were all one-line quippers too. The first two especially just felt like B-rate Tony Stark. I miss when their characters actually HAD character. Even every side character now has to be funny. I don't get it. Why does everyone need to be funny? Even in the new Thor, characters who we know are meant to be stoic and serious like Nebula and Jane Foster are acting like comedy goons. It's weird.

[@killerape6290]

it's like they're all redditors.

[@azh698]

Just take the 11 hour breakdown of Captain Falcon (or Blacktain America as I like to call him) by EFAP.

[@templarcross755]

I just want Hulk back man, the emotionally complex berserker that both destroys/saves the city and world now and then.

[@unclekarl5219]

He was only good in avengers 1 and 2 lol. Every other film he starred in he was a shit character

[@nont18411]

Kid: “Mom, I want to watch Saul Goodman.” Mom: “Don’t worry, we have Saul Goodman at home.” Saul Goodman at home:

[@Shockkings0714]

Better Call Saul> She Bulk

[@Lootron]

This is the only good "at home" comment ever and its incredible

[@notBrocker]

@@Shockkings0714 don’t ever dare to compare the two shows Better call Saul is a cinematic master piece While she hulk is just unfunny jokes mixed with daredevil to make people watch their show

[@margarethmichelina5146]

Speaking of Saul Goodman, Better Call Saul just ended and the ending is a masterpiece. No rushed ending, no ambigous ending like The Soprano, it's just a simple farewell for Bob Odenkirk playing Saul Goodman for years.

[@Shockkings0714]

@@notBrocker You’re right. Sorry Mr. Brocker

[@alisa-dy6tx]

as a woman shows like these don’t feel ”empowering” or whatever they were going for. this feels insulting at best. they really think this bullshit is what we want?? and the steve joke, ugh. disgusting.

[@salleymudd5488]

The "Steve Jokes" were clearly written by an ugly, salty woman who is bitter that she could never land a man like that.

[@ludlowaloysius]

🦜

[@TheDingo1234]

I agree!! Like wtf? That’s not okay

[@dubbcee1000]

"Didn't you know? No incel deserves to be treated with respect"- some feminist mcu writer, probably

[@O1OO1O1]

Yeah, treating Steve's character arc as a joke was pretty disgusting. His whole thing is that he's waiting for the right partner. Which, despite being able to get any partner, he does. It's a beautiful contrast to our current culture of disposable relationships and meaningless sex. We'll always have that moment where it's just Steve vs an army. Better times.

[@Sleepytechnician]

The amount of people I see online attacking The Drinker for not liking movies with female leads is hilarious. They can’t look past his dislike of specific tropes and movies and can only see the fact that it contains a woman and he doesn’t like it. “Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee misogyny” shut up, I’m a woman and I agree with him.

[@stevemerritt2721]

Difference in a good movie with female lead vs a “woke” misogyny with a “Mary sue”

[@fibessnaredrum2775]

Its this crazy culture that promotes individualism, difference and being unique ... well if you follow their specific rules that is. Weird kind of freedom to me.. All people want is well written characters i do not get why this point of view is frowned upon? They can make any film with whoever they like. All we ask is a well rounded developed characters rather than the usual predictable writing we see these days.

[@musicorum9862]

It's the only "point" that woke SJW's have and its not even a point its a strawman "You hate wahman, POCs, alphabet people etc" or "wahman, POC's, alphabet people etc exist" like those aren't arguments.

[@passthedutchie4873]

Have they picked you

[@passthedutchie4873]

@Zeffo but arcane is inclusive their world is different they are al inclusive our world isnt stfu I hope they pick you

[@nicmarcelino9944]

I'm no longer seeing hulks. I'm seeing Shreks.

[@visd.9344]

She-Hulk: "I got catcalled today. I have it harder than you daredevil." Daredevil: "I'm literally blind...you realize that right?"

[@phoozball1709]

Also She-Hulk to Daredevil: "Stop stare-raping me!"

[@unclekarl5219]

Daredevil hasn’t appeared yet

[@unclekarl5219]

@@phoozball1709 daredevil hasn’t appeared yet

[@theaxbowlotl]

A blind *man* smh.

[@nuqmanzahhar6223]

@@unclekarl5219 and never appeared on this feminist sitcom

[@MegaCityPatrol]

The Boys : Take a superhero team that no one ever has ever heard of and turn it into a hit show MCU TV : Take superheroes that *everyone* has heard of and run them into the ground to the point where no one cares anymore

[@GodGainzz]

👏👏👏

[@gulliermobarrera7163]

My favorite part of the episode is where she’s going on about how she is so amazing at controlling her anger and then immediately resorts to physical violence.

[@MarcosAlvarado_]

Thats… the point. Dumb

[@enricopucci3954]

No, the part where she transformed and said "it's hulkin' time" was way better

[@nicolascharron1038]

Yeah, it makes me think of my mom making justifications for slapping and hitting my stepfather while he was sleeping and claiming it wasn't assault.

[@acheron9515]

@@enricopucci3954 wow that was so fucking hilarious omf

[@sunmaid6916]

these comments “she’s without flaw this is blatant feminist propaganda”. meanwhile when she shows a flaw u tear the show down. what is it? are flaws good or bad?

[@echelonxc2852]

" doing laundry on a tuesday is the slice of life this show explores " what is that statement 🤣

[@user-bt3bu6qn5u]

I'm so pissed off about what modern "entertainment" has become. Watching your videos tho are presenting the rare moments in which I can laugh about it other than just being overly frustrated 🙏

[@Shockkings0714]

MCU Phase Bore

[@TrigonAZR]

Don't get too upset @J. It's a wierd trend that will go for a bit longer and soon will fade into obscurity

[@NoahGooder]

@@TrigonAZR i hope so because its quite boring

[@CorePathway]

Don’t get mad, just don’t feed the trolls who are shitting this content out.

[@user-bt3bu6qn5u]

@@CorePathway wish it would be trolls. But those "trolls" are multi billion dollar businesses lmao ':/

[@aheahe7943]

women: all men think about is sex, stop treating us like sex symbols, it's disgusting. also women writing jokes: let's make a joke about how captain america was probably a virgin that entire time

[@potatowaffle5653]

Teenage level jokes eeugh

[@steventhomas231]

Stop treating us like sex symbols; forgetting Instagram exists in the process

[@neutrallynonsensical3477]

@@steventhomas231 by that logic, someone can assume all men are idiots based on your comment lmao

[@coolioso808]

Let's not forget that Hollywood execs are deeply disconnected with reality. They have a stranglehold on main film and TV, which means they have a big influence on portraying a narrative that isn't necessarily what most average people want, nor agree with. Many are seeing through the BS, but some are not and they are even subliminally letting these messages sink in. Art imitates life or life imitates art or both? The thing is Hollywood narratives should not be seen as what most people think or should think. Hollywood has deep connections to the CIA and propaganda tactics. This reminds me of Orwell's 1984 with the messages: War is Peace / Freedom is Slavery / Ignorance is Strength. They just keep putting out this illogical message and if they say it enough they hope people will just accept it. Unfortunately, propaganda does work. So it is up to every one of us to help each other see through the smoke and get to the truth, so we all do better.

[@jacobblair6941]

It's something that's circulated on the Internet. They added it for the memes

[@daneyal7162]

You know, when Dante's famous "Inferno" was labeled as "the divine comedy", it wasn't because it was ment to be extremely, or even REMOTELY, funny. It was named so because back then, comedy was a genre that was accessible for all people to read, poor and rich alike, because Dante wanted all sorts of people to be able to read his work. Seeing all the negative reviews of this show so far, including my own impression of all the scenes from the show that I checked out for myself...yeah, it does feel like walking into hell...a hell of misandry, false female empowerment, and the butchering of not one, but TWO major and beloved Marvel characters...may this woke dumpster fire burn in hell itself.

[@unclekarl5219]

That’s not what the comedy in divine comedy means

[@da4127]

Isn’t it because it was satire to the current political and social division? Like I agree with you, but I don’t know wtf the part of the divine comedy had to do with the rest

[@Yohan-yc2bv]

@@da4127 "i agree with you, but -" you don't

[@KaseyC.]

@@Yohan-yc2bv it was definitely more of a "I agree with you for the most part, but what's x about?" kinda thing. If you've seen the movie Tick... Tick... Boom, think about how the guy (I don't remember his name), the entire time, was basically being told that his play was good, except for one part of it. Because that one part was critiqued, does that mean people were calling the whole thing bad?

[@kjn3350]

Comedy back then meant it had a happy ending. That's it. Nothing particularly deep about it. A regular person could read comedies as easily as tragedies - which actually means not easily at all, because it was the middle ages and literacy rates were low.

[@williamhaas9090]

I have to disagree with one thing . Mark ruffalo enjoyed every moment of being emasculated .

[@Paulafan5]

Can we have Edward Norton back for a real Hulk movie? Ruffalo is fine as a goofy sidekick to Thor or Stark, but I think a full movie with Ruffalo as the lead would be bad. Very bad.

[@quademasters249]

@@Paulafan5 Agreed. He's pretty blank as a character. Man I'd love Ed Norton in that role.

[@jlondono7]

Yeah he’s a total soyboy, even Edward Norton was a better casting decision for Hulk than him

[@poppedweasel]

And all this time I thought his name was Ma Gruffalo.

[@Vaultboythefightingmachine]

Edward Norton was a Chad Hulk

[@adamfernandes4312]

I'm certain she'll do a "he did not see that coming" joke with Daredevil.

[@Laxhoop]

Classic She-Hulk was the original Deadpool. She was a bombshell, she knew she was, and she loved that she was, so she’d use that fact to her advantage whenever she wanted, even to sell comics by wearing revealing costumes on the front covers, while saying “This is what the fans want, I suppose”. But she was also 3 dimensional, because while she wasn’t as strong as the hulk, this was balanced by the fact that she didn’t have an alter ego, which, actually caused her an immense amount of guilt, as she constantly had to wonder why she was blessed, but Bruce was cursed. Her determination to find a cure for her cousin, while also using her powers to help in deadly situations where she could, all while using her lawyer skills to defend Bruce legally, and help actual, non-super people, made her one of the most dynamic, likable, and endearing characters that Marvel had to offer. Combine that with her initial run also having a healthy dose of 4th wall breaking before Deadpool made it his shtick, and it’s no wonder why she became almost as popular as her roid-rage cousin. But, this new show, and even modern comics, completely misunderstand almost all of these aspects of her character. Now, yes, the 4th wall breaks haven’t really been part of her character for a while now, but the rest of what I explained is still really interesting and cool. But in this show, Bruce just kinda… Stopped having to deal with the alter ego thing. And even if the hulk does come back during the events of this show, it’ll be too late. Because She-Hulk won’t have to deal with the guilt of always having been in control, while Bruce just doesn’t have that luxury. She’ll have gotten her powers and mastered them, all while Bruce doesn’t really have much to worry about in terms of having two personas. It really removes that pivotal aspect of She-Hulk’s character, where she’s thankful for Bruce saving her life, so she dedicates her life to making sure he can one day live at least semi-normally, like she can. By having Bruce be normal during the majority of her time coming to terms with her new powers, just means that should Bruce ever split into two again, it just won’t have the same weight, because She-Hulk will already have an answer to the question “Can I even help Bruce?“, because the answer is yes, as he was fine for a long time. It just really removes one of the character’s most endearing aspects. And then of course there’s the sexuality aspect. I can’t lie and say that this She-Hulk won’t appeal to a lot of modern men who want a dommy mommy GF, but the original She-Hulk was that, and more. This She-Hulk is just buff, which, again, yeah, absolutely will appeal to a lot of modern men’s desires, but classic She-Hulk was muscular, while also being built like a classic comic bombshell. She could fit the dommy mommy roll, while also being the girl next door, the quick-witted lawyer with her hair tied up, and so many other kink- I mean, “aspects of her character”. This show has stripped her down so that she can now only really appeal to people who share anime tomboy abs on discord. Which, yeah, I’m one of those guys, but I also like bimbos. And I’m not even going to get into the modern comics, because they’re so bad, that even the self-awareness lacking writers at modern marvel comics had to have Deadpool literally ask their version of She-Hulk “Uh, hey, are you alright? You used to be fun. You were like… Me, before I was me. What happened to that?” And they just don’t answer Deadpool’s genuinely good question, and proceed with their story like that genuinely good question doesn’t matter. So yeah, even if the show was good, which it probably won’t be, because Phase 4 is garbage, then it would still be disappointing, because it’s stripped She-Hulk of everything about her character that doesn’t align with modern Hollywood standards, and the current MCU Hulk is just undermining any depth she could still potentially have as a character, by not being the classic duo-personality hulk, to give her something to instead feel guilty for, and something to strive for, that being to either cure Bruce, or something that will allow him to live normally.

[@flameshana9]

If only you were a writer for Marvel instead of these hillbillies.

[@michaeljdauben]

This. 1000%

[@boobah5643]

My only gripe with that rant is characterizing the Hulk as only having two personalities. Sure, there's Banner on the one side, but the big green dude sometimes thinks of himself as Banner (but often has an aberrant personality anyway), there's the rage-monster, there's the child-like Hulk, and there's the personality known most often as 'Joe Fixit' who is merely intelligent but views the baseline Banner as a foolish sap. Not an exhaustive list, of course, and different writers telling different stories have changed all of them from time to time. The gripping hand, though, is that all of them represent a loss of control for Banner in exchange for the Hulk's power.

[@Bonobo_JoJo]

I couldn’t take it seriously when she hulk was instantly stronger than Hulk, despite having literally 1/5 the muscle mass. Maybe that was one of the “jokes” of the show though…

[@CallmeScott67]

The joke is on the audience I'm afraid

[@fantochedollmaker7030]

Stronger, faster, instantly adapts, can switch from to to none with no cost or consequences in the least..

[@justforever96]

I said the same thing. Whatever the magical muscles are, they still made her feminine and much smaller than him. But somehow still just as powerful than him. Because it's not like it's the _size_ of muscles that count, that's silly! If that was true than how could all these small women be just as strong as the ripped males they consistently outperform? So obviously how strong you are is just a function of your will, not the actual size of your muscle. Right

[@Corvy952]

It’s another woke “strong female character” whose character based off the trailer is “I’m better and smarter than every male and challenges that were challenges to men aren’t challenges to me bc im a wahman”. She’s supposed to be smarter and more adept than Bruce banner, a literal genius.. Having a perfect female character that struggles against nothing and is perfect in every way, ridiculing and surpassing all men is not a good character trait. Why are woke strong female woman always characterized with the absolute and most mysogynistic traits of toxic males? Only for some reason it’s portrayed as a positive when it’s a women whose toxic?

[@THEKXRMANETWORK]

Y’all call every main character that isn’t a white male “woke” lmao, like come on now

[@luizlapa2245]

@@THEKXRMANETWORK dude explained in almost 10 lines why the problem is not with the gender of the character, but whit the how this character is built and their traits.

[@ty194]

@@THEKXRMANETWORK You need for that argument to be true. It helps you cope.

[@origami83]

@@THEKXRMANETWORK Then you havent been paying attention to the critisism.

[@THEKXRMANETWORK]

@@luizlapa2245 except he derailed his argument when he claimed she’s supposed to be perfect and that she’s “smarter” than Bruce which she factually isn’t, she’s actively learning from HIM how to be a hulk, and she’s not stronger than him either sooo….😂to me it just sounds like y’all don’t understand women

[@RansomPro]

We clearly needed this. There isn’t enough comedy in the MCU

[@mrgreenboy644]

And the Dundee Award for sarcasm goes to...

[@dericjames2018]

@whaaa t No get out

[@Xzenoblade101]

U better be trolling

[@squid8420]

@whaaa t holy crap part 2 I’ve been waiting for this since the beginning of the universe

[@markmolino679]

At this point.The MCU has become SNL.

[@keepingupwithculver545]

I just find it poetic how Better Call Saul ended a couple days ago, which featured one of the strongest female protagonists in tv history with Kim Wexler, and this pathetic dumpster fire debuts right after. Two shows about the same subject, but this one doesn’t want to put the time and effort into make the experience worth while. Just amazing😭

[@nont18411]

Comparing Jennifer Walters to Kim Wexler is like comparing an expired meat from Walmart to a michelin star restaurant, and I’m not even a fan of Kim Wexler.

[@Michael-zf1ko]

The Breaking Bad universe shows what is possible when the people making things gives a shit about their story. Better Call Saul was literally the only modern TV I watched. I loved every minute of it, and it only manages to improve upon the Breaking Bad story while also making me anxious about what's going to happen in its own story (even though I already know where it all ends up). That is amazing for a prequel.

[@misterfancy9528]

@@Michael-zf1ko If Better Call Saul is the only modern TV show you watched, I recommend watching Severence. Great show.

[@L_87]

Listening to people roast she hulk is my new favorite thing to watch

[@suhpc82]

If someone had told me about this show and the latest MCU movies back when the first Ironman movie came out, I'd laugh my ass off and thought that person is off their meds for sure. It's a sad world we live in now.

[@D3voidofsoul]

It is the death of the MCU. It will take a while and they will put out more POS like this but eventually the cash cow will turn into a turd. Because that is what it is becoming. Crap.

[@Ganon999]

For me it's hard to immerse myself in a world of heroes and villains if literally everything the characters say is a joke. Like y'all said in a recent stream, when a franchise is nearing its end it turns it into a comedy as a last ditch effort to keep an audience.

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

Yeah and it gets even worse when you have a one trick pony like Taika coming in to direct it because he will even make a woman who is dying of cancer a joke.

[@Ganon999]

@@JustTooDamnHonest Yeah lol so weird

[@jeffk464]

Well I split from comic book movies probably 10 years ago. They used to be entertaining mediocre films, now they are just painful to watch.

[@Ganon999]

@@jeffk464 Yeah that's fair. I felt like End Game was enough for me, like the story was over. After so many years and movies I'm satisfied lol maybe if they weren't the same exact characters over and over. I wouldn't mind more serious rated R films like Logan but none of the new films/series are interesting anymore.

[@WeighedWilson]

Deadpool.

[@LordOfAllusion]

There’s a good reason Steve noped TF out back to the 1940’s after endgame. He saw all the woke shit and decided the past was better. He really was the smartest avenger.

[@ab5olut3zero95]

Probably the best explanation. Also, wish I could’ve gone with him.

[@LordOfAllusion]

@@ab5olut3zero95 same bruh

[@cloudbounc3]

That’s why Stark died, he saw the future and couldn’t handle it, so he died from the cringe

[@naqibdaik7241]

@@cloudbounc3so both of them just nope the fuck themselves out from the big screen because of that? Yup, they are still in sync albeit using a different method.

[@scorpixel1866]

@@naqibdaik7241 Strange isn't actually Strange after Infinity War, he exchanged places with another one from a better reality and told him do deal with this shit just before he got snapped.

[@Dr.Goldstein]

She hulk: " I HATE BEING CAT CALLED". Also She hulk: * Proceeds to twerk in the next episode after*. Me: "Your an Actual Lunatic".

[@Darkdaej]

The whole "can't get drunk" thing also ruins a powerful moment from "Captain America: The First Avenger". After Bucky falls off the train to his (apparent) death, Steve goes for a drink in a bar, alone, when Agent Carter comes in to try and comfort him. He then comments on the fact that he can't get even get drunk anymore due to the serum's effects EDIT: Seems I was misunderstood by a few - I mean to say the She-Hulk moment ruins the one from Captain America.

[@SamtheBravesFan]

I think that what they were going for is he wants to get drunk to forget what just happened and he's lamenting he can't, but that might be giving it too much credit.

[@Darkdaej]

@@SamtheBravesFan Well that's what's implied in Captain America, but now it's just been turned into a gag.

[@DexDexter0]

She hulk not getting drunk is something that's come up in the comics

[@timmyturtles9670]

Doesn’t ruin it? it’d be ruined if captain was actually drunk but he was only trying showing how strong the serum made his body

[@ExeErdna]

Yet in the comics any decent healing factor makes you overall immune to getting drunk. Like you have to basically poison yourself just to get buzz

[@ag9953]

I mean, I laughed pretty hard when she lectured a man who was abused as a child about how bad she has it being catcalled (Haha, she wishes) and ocassionally being told she did something wrong. Then I realized that was not meant to be a joke.

[@m.douglas8492]

Who did she tell that?

[@mcflyingfury]

@@m.douglas8492 Bruce Banner? The Hulk?

[@m.douglas8492]

@@mcflyingfury He was abused as a kid?

[@hollowwoods7130]

@@m.douglas8492 He was

[@mcflyingfury]

@@m.douglas8492 Yup

[@PredatorWookiee]

The discussion of Steve's sex life proves that these woke writers see greater value in sexual activity than in someone's character and their accomplishments.

[@RanMouri82]

Which probably explains a lot about, say, the Rings of Power show. Who cares that Frodo carried the One Ring to Mount Doom if he never had sex, amirite?

[@daveleevicks8749]

Think about it....that makes him a "good guy."

[@GokuInfintysaiyan]

Ironic considering its usually the virgin who ends up being the final girl in horror movies, a trope that led to a lot of breakout roles and leading ladies.

[@yuhyuhtheindigo7085]

Sex is maybe the one singular thing that women can use to hold power over men. It’s the strongest card in their deck and they play it at every possible chance, which really just ends up making them look vapid and shallow.

[@PredatorWookiee]

@@yuhyuhtheindigo7085 it’s only *circumstantial* they have that power over men and vice versa.

[@goblez5900]

>She wrote Pickle Rick Wow what an endorsement, truly a comedic masterpiece.

[@arealhuman2409]

I used to love the MCU and looked forward to every trailer and project, but today I honestly feel nothing whenever I see something Marvel related.

[@Shockkings0714]

Because the MCU no longer takes itself seriously anymore. Everything is oriented towards kids who can’t think for themselves

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

Because it's all badly written woke trash.

[@sellerie8228]

the mcu ended with endgame for me

[@Sigrafix]

@@sellerie8228 I enjoyed Loki and Hawkeye.. that's about it.

[@scorp77snake]

Just has to be Disney related for me.

[@dbsommers1]

And by "comedy" they mean a misandrist's power fantasy of humiliating and emasculating men and denouncing them if they don't praise it. Comedy.

[@Unapologeticweeb]

This shit makes talkshow hosts look like comedy gold

[@nothajzl]

It’s a comedy, but not for the reasons they intended. As Disparu said😁

[@diegooland1261]

Ya, I'm sure those women sitting around in front of a camera, each with a mic, discussing the making of She Hulk, while actually trying to out do each other for the most pithy, insightful, funny, and memorable quote for TicToc is exactly what the women in the '70's had in mind as progress. You can't act like that and complain when people treat you as devoid or a joke.

[@O1OO1O1]

To be fair, we've really failed to guide women like that in society. They've grown up in a different world, but had no guidance on how to navigate that. And nobody is well-equipped to give it, since they grew up in a different world. They bare personal responsibility, but there's also social responsibility, like how many young people can't buy a house, not because they don't work, but because society is f--ked.

[@jasongarcia8893]

Probably tbh. I hate this meme that "feminism was good back in the day!" It was not. It was still anti-male, still utilized the word "equality" in a sleazy and underhanded way, and was still fueled by penis envy and female neuroticism.

[@O1OO1O1]

@@jasongarcia8893 it wasn't because they wanted the right to: * vote * have paid maternity leave * get paid the same as men doing the same job role * be able to have sex as men do without being socially shunned ? Do you also think the anti-slavery movement was driven by white-envy and black neuroticism? Or worker rights movements driven by ownership envy and labourer neuroticism? Or animal rights movements by cruelty envy and human neuroticism?

[@jasongarcia8893]

​@@O1OO1O1 Although I think women should vote, the suffragettes were still pretty bad. They firebombed churches and also hated men. Why do women need paid maternity leave? Women marry men who make more money than them, so it's not like they need it. How are you gonna force a company to pay you for not working for months? That's stupid. It should be a company's choice. Not only that, but lots of women opt to just never come back to the workforce. Kind of sucks if your the company. They already do. They did in the past to. The idea that a woman and a man ever did the exact same job and the woman was just paid less is not real. Women made less money and continue to make less money because they work less hours, take more time off, and work in professions that pay less. Female doctors get paid less than Male doctors because Female doctors usually become pediatricians, and male doctors become surgeons. Even in under the same job title, women specialize in fields that earn less money. Even before the civil rights act, if women were paid less for the exact same work, you'd expect to find companies hiring mostly women to cut labor costs. Yet historically, men have dominated the workforce. I'm sure there was some discrimination, but it is most definitely a smaller variable than people are willing to admit. Well dude, that'll never happen. Because of the nature of praternity men evolved a sense of disgust of promiscuos women. Men need to kow that they are the father, and promiscuos women make it difficult to know. Women don't have the same aversion to promiscous men. Even women know that promiscous women are bad for men. If you ask a woman if she'd rather have her son marry a virgin or a woman with a body count of 15, what do you think she'd say? We all know deep down. She wants to be sure the baby is her grandkid. Even women call each other sluts when competing for the same man. Comparing women in the 50s to slaves is the biggest meme i've ever seen. A lot of worker's rights stuff goes too far to be frank. Animal rights is not relevant to this. I also said that feminism is fueled by female neuroticism because women really are more neurotic. It's not just me being insulting. The idea that women were ever oppressed is a meme. Women even expected men to provide for them. Still do in fact, cause you can't change human nature. Feminism has always been a manifestation of penis-envy.

[@jasongarcia8893]

​@@O1OO1O1 Also, the reason women entered the workforce in the 70s is because the economy went to shit and ever since people have needed two incomes. I can assure you, women were not clamoring to be able to go to work en masse.

[@shinobi-no-bueno]

She-Hulk staff: "girls like laundry" ...Alright 👍

[@thecriticteam2255]

full ep here kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3K9nqJ_faiHmqM

[@thelaughingrouge]

She-Hulk was such a fun character back in the day. Perfect for a show that doesn't take itself too seriously. It could be great, but considering what Disney has been doing I don't have much hope.

[@shar3859]

Yeah, they're trying too hard with the "not taking itself too seriously"

[@mr.sneazy8737]

Thats because that She-Hulk was written by a man this show is written by a woman. Since woman are not funny i have no hope for this show to be funny.

[@grandmastercadillac9052]

Ten plus years ago the idea of a She-hulk show would have sounded awesome to me. When it got officially announced a couple years ago I already knew what it was going to be and dreaded it happening.

[@vesha6274]

@@SolidGrim so was Iron Man, didn't stop him from becoming a success in the MCU

[@wwehulk8798]

@@mr.sneazy8737 funny is subjective so you saying women as a whole not being funny is a biased and dumbazz opinion, not a fact there have been plenty of funny female characters and female jokesters who write good jokes ppl like, if any woman can make someone laugh then that pretty much proves you are just sexist. It's the same thing as saying if something was written by a German person it wouldn't be funny because Germans aren't funny. But then again ur American ofc you'd say that when you generalize a whole gender over a few not making your stoic self laugh XD

[@pipsqueek89]

years ago i wanted a kinda "law and order" show with Jennifer Walters and Matt Murdock, barely acknowledging the fact they are superheroes this show is not what i had in mind

[@DrLipkin]

I felt that way about wanting a police procedural show based upon Gotham Central. Imagine my disappointment when we got Gotham.

[@lainiwakura1776]

Like a serious Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law?

[@Pandemia616]

@@DrLipkin I actually liked the first few series of Gotham. I thought it was an interesting premise, it just went on way too long.

[@calvin1786]

Only one episode is out y'all tripping

[@IamOutOfNames]

@@calvin1786 Cope harder, we all know how this is going. Seen it all before...

[@merlin_494]

"Steve Rogers didn't have a girlfriend before he went into the service." So that's the level of bs Marvel is serving now ? Being cynical doesn't mean being funny. Especially when you mock the bravest hero of your universe cuz he was *a virgin* Imagine making fun of a nurse cuz she never got laid, because she dedicated herself to her studies and her work. Or because she never had a pretty enough face, or because she was poor. That's the same thing to me. You can criticize and mock someone on their acts. Criticizing someone on their look, their lack of sexual experience or any private things like this is downright being an asshole.

[@toweypat]

Oh, that Florence Nightingale, what a lame-o. Sure, her ideas saved millions, if not billions, of human lives, but she could never land a husband! Loser!

[@Willdaddy09]

Gotta play devil's advocate here: Nurses might be a bad example in this scenario, because they're all hoors. Source: I am a nurse and a hoor.

[@orkaydk9430]

@@Willdaddy09 lmao ok

[@michaellane5381]

Tbf, this is technically a private moment like the avengers dinking around with Thor's hammer, but it is true he should be fascinating for a number of unique legal reasons and she should know he was essentially a support entertainer at one point.

[@dandywaysofliving]

Idk man. Society has this thing we're if u ain't busting loads or riding the biggest pole on the block u have no value. . Especially if you seem slightly attractive. . Ppl wanna diss u because they feel dissed for not having the chance to give u a slurrpy because ur not just looking for a release. . It shatters their world view. That u can exist and have meaning past throwing a load into someone's pants. . Ask any asexual the amount of times people take the term as a challenge. . Now imagine just being too busy helping others, that some nobody in the background ignores everything about u or what you've done. . Only to be like Lol I don't think he's had his pp sucked. What a loser. . As if the amount oftimes she's taken a slurrpy or given one. *Defines her worth in society* . Like sorry the only thing that makes u feel valued, is something that someone so honest could go without. . Now I'm sorry if anyone feels a way or two because of my words. I wish u the strength 💪and power🙏 To move on with your life🤥😜😳😷🥺

[@pearcebchris]

The Critical Drinker's synopsis of She-Hulk is funnier than the "comedy" itself

[@deathmetalbard]

Here's my rebuttal about cap being a virgin: And? Does him being a virgin somehow lessens the good he did or the sacrifices that he endured? It's almost as if the writers are trying to say "he didn't have tons of sex, what a loser" which i feel is a very thin allusion to their own insecurities.

[@SlowNSteady123]

Honestly when they try to tear cap down, he becomes more of a chad

[@pickyphysicsstudent201]

I have a theory. This show is written by women for women and women will judge men on their sexuality. A man who has not had sex is not worth their time and it is funny (to them) that Cap is a hero with valor but didn't have sex. It's like a big tough scary looking biker guy but then finding out his name is Albert or Eugene.

[@jessekoepp3928]

Its not a coincidence they think they can mock and shame men (and men only) for both having casual sex and NOT having casual sex. 🙄👌 If you expect consistency from wahmenists, youre in the wrong business my friend.

[@Paulafan5]

Cap has one of the saddest stories in the MCU and they make fun of him? He was a man out of time and didn't belong. He gave everything and more to save the universe and what do they do? Make fun of his sex life?

[@jaimeruiz7837]

Exactly… imagine how much puddy he had to swat away. Man’s was using his shield to deflect them hoes.

[@axelolord]

I've already watched She-Hulk in full like 7 times and it was great. I especially liked the moment when she shouted "It's Shulking time" and defeated the patriarchy.

[@carlbig3118]

Loved when after this scene Daredevil shows up and says "I would have never seen that coming"

[@GodGainzz]

BOT

[@PNWAffliction]

when she fought patriarchy hulk and he said PATRIARCHY SMASH! it gave me goosebumps, it was so brave for shulk to smash him with bravery.

[@WaxTheDolphin]

When in legal trouble better call She-Hulk.

[@chunkblaster]

I mean, she does have all the personality of a shulker box

[@michdo23]

Dude, i am from Germany and even over here Captain America is a fucking hero and role model. He stands for "good guy America" without the political bullshit. You guys need to protect him at all costs from becoming the same thing he dispised in his own story: To become a tool for an agenda. Captain America is the man. Fun Fact: We had out own Marvel hero, "Hauptmann Deutschland" alias "Vormund". You probably never heard of him, but he teamed up with Cap once and brought down the Red Skull.

[@k1m198]

I agree with you, but if you think about it, in the greater scheme of things, outside the comic universe, in the business world of it, he's always been "a tool for an agenda", it's just the agenda used to be more wholesome and natural, now the agenda has switched, and the tools are being used to promote, well, literal evil, if you boil right down to it.

[@calistafalcontail]

I agree to the whole political bs stuff but the "...even over here Captain America is a fucking hero and role model" thing is like...what? I am also from Germany and I have never heard anyone say that. I dont know if you are in a specific american comic nerds bubble but american super heros are pretty cringy to me and everyone I know. The character design is awful, the stories are crap....I dont know where you got this from.

[@deznutes6689]

@@k1m198 just say what you wanna say racist weirdo

[@corvus9829]

@@calistafalcontail Even Spider-man and Batman ??

[@patrickhenry8425]

Well he probably isn't a self-absorbed narcissistic wahman that tries to speak for "everyone she knows"...

[@Twyler68]

Thanks to the drinker for providing an honest review. I’m so tired of rotten tomatoes and other critics trying to blame “toxic audiences” for their failures

[@stevekathman1291]

I would fully expect Captain America to be a virgin... because he was born in the 1920s and that was the standard moral practice at the time, you know, no sex before marriage. Remember that? It was a real thing.

[@unclekarl5219]

They got married at 16 back then

[@stevekathman1291]

@@unclekarl5219 Some people did but not everyone... what's your point?

[@DameOfDiamonds]

@@unclekarl5219 no they did not, it was the 40's not the 1700's

[@wlink639]

@@unclekarl5219 Not everyone, captain wasn't married. It's not that crazy to think he's likely a virgin.

[@rory8182]

@@unclekarl5219 Regardless of when they got married, Cap didn't marry till he went back in time, meaning that inital standard marital age didn't matter

[@guywglasses3910]

Weirdly enough, I feel like every project that came out had the potential to really shift the tone for the mcu going forward, but the reason each one fell flat is because Disney is a half-measure. They play with the idea of tackling darker and more serious subject matter and the tone for those stories, but it ultimately always is just that "playing with the idea" but never truly embracing or walking in it. They always fake out and leave the audience with no real sense of urgency, no real sense of direction, no real sense of consequence, and therefore, no real sense of investment in the events that transpire.

[@naqibdaik7241]

And couple theat with their own agenda, and you get this shits of Phase 4.

[@adriandenton6637]

Disney marketing are in charge at the moment no doubt...."how about this demographic? lets expand our net"..13 year old girls-lets go "Ms Marvel". Single slightly jaded women in their 30s "She-Hulk"...Black people "Wakanda Forever". Girls in their late teens "Hawkeye"..Gays & their female friends "Thor"..Chinese culture "Shang-Chi"....White males have got Dr Strange but he was overshadowed by Wanda. It's all heavily targeted from business meetings looking at charts and graphs. And the big question.."How many toys can we sell from this"..

[@adriandenton6637]

It's all a testing ground now before they find their feet again with kang storyline...but they're losing fans.

[@guywglasses3910]

@Adrian Denton nah. I feel like mostly what they are doing is a lot of quantity over quality. Every show feels different up until it reaches the middle, then they all just fall into the same Disney mcu formula. They're calling this the multiverse saga, and yet, it feels nothing like that. Despite having all the characters, tools, and stories to make it work, they still are just doing whatever.

[@Yora21]

MCU is the purest manifestation of what Wallace actually meant when he said "Irony is the death of our culture". Brushing everything off as "it's just a joke" and "you're not supposed to take it seriously", and never commiting to any idea or making any statement with conviction. Always leaving yourself an easy escape in case anyone might challenge a statement or value what you put on paper or film. He wasn't talking about humor.

[@cc0767]

Its a shame we never got a proper Hulk by Marvel, before he got ridiculed in Infinity War and Endgame only to now be a side character

[@paxwax1]

Yeah, Hulk never got any redemption from the smack down Thanos gave him at the start of part I.

[@obiwankenobi661]

i still enjoy eric bana and jennifer connelly

[@christiansantamaria7233]

The first avenger movie did it right they made him an uncontrollable monster who just wanted to smash specifically the black widow vs hulk scene the way she was running for her life against hulk was perfect showing off how scary it is to be chased by this giant angry man and the ending too was the cherry on top he brought down that huge ship monster he coulda easily done that in infinity war but noo they ruined him

[@scott8448]

Hulk movie was the second in the MCU with tony making a cameo at the end, hence why abomination is in the show and was in Shang chi, even though he’s supposed to be in this supermax prison at the time by the look of it. Just one small cameo proves none of these so called writers know what they’re doing. At least in the first few MCU movies if something was injected into another show it had a reason, now they throw them in as a simple cameo and fuck up their own timeline

[@rickpetrusmaria3536]

Watch Hulk directed by Ang Lee. Great movie true to the comics with effects which are arguably better than latest MCU movies.

[@howdydobuckeroo1204]

I actually went to watch the first avengers movie where they were fighting Loki and his army. And I have to agree with how terrifying the Hulk was in that film. It was actually pretty scary whenever I saw Bruce getting any bit annoyed

[@milton7763]

To be fair, it looks like this show is going to bring a lot of actual fun comedy. I personally can’t wait for all the hilarious review videos that are going to tear it to threads.

[@achaudhari101]

So you just want it to fail?

[@vesha6274]

Yeah can't wait for him to repeat the same exact shit he's said for every single MCU show

[@Evolution-Is-A-Blatant-Lie]

@@achaudhari101 I question anyone who would want a she-hulk story to suceed.

[@Chadius_Thundercock]

@@vesha6274 they have the same problems, do you want him to make up problems so you have something to complain about?

[@vesha6274]

@@Chadius_Thundercock how about using actual criticism instead of saying ''ThE mEsSaGe'' every single time there's a female character on screen?

[@torwynd3131]

They literally just admitted publicly that when it came time to write the show they realized they had no idea how to write a legal show or how to write anything really. Its like a Disney exec got drunk wandered down to the local laundromat and said "any cat ladies need a job writing a Marvel show"

[@Phoenix_11_17]

It’s funny to me because I thought Cap being a virgin kinda stayed true to his relationship with Peggy in the movie, how even though he can literally get with anyone because of how he looks he’s still waiting for the right person. I have no clue what they’re trying to do with him.

[@thebatman.]

This is such a good point. And it’s ridiculous how obsessed they were with that specific topic, Jen mentioned it like 3 times in this episode alone

[@Beastinvader]

They want to tear him down to their own level

[@Michael-gk4io]

​@@thebatman. She says she hates being cat-called, but then spends a lot of time degrading a man's value and esteem down to his perceived sexuality. She's "sad" he may have died a virgin, and then cheers with delight that he "fu-". Regardless of whether he had sex or not, it was important that she knew a man she had never met before was sexual, but then is angered that random men will call out to her basically signally to her that they are sexual beings and find her attractive, albeit in a vulgar way. Like, are the writers really not smart enough to realize they are contributing to the very culture they supposedly hate so much?

[@gavinabney4023]

@@thebatman. Jesus get over yourself dude. She wanted to fuck Cap that’s why she was curious

[@kateshiningdeer3334]

It's not him, specifically. They're trying to tear down ALL men. In his era, men were just as likely to wait for "the one" as women were - things only changed when better birth control became available. Then women suddenly started to think sleeping around was a GOOD thing, for some reason, and started making fun of men who hadn't slept around. You can see some of this in "Grease", where it's actually talked about from both sides (the girls among themselves, and the guys among themselves). Today, there's actually a movement back to having LESS sex before marriage, and some folks are absolutely losing their crap over it.

[@sussyboy7043]

Here’s the problem with drinkers video: His edits actually make the show funny!