Shogun 7 VS Shogun Inferno | What's the difference?

[@broadcastinsider3281]

Great video, but I want to point out that the Shogun 7 screen is unlike any other small or medium display on the market. You mentioned the whites vs. blacks, but it's much much more than that. An LED behind a zone is assigned one of >10,000 brightness levels that corresponds to the luminance value of the zone. What does that mean? It means not just the "black remaining black" but every color having a brightness that reflects reality. It's the best display on the market and if it was a monitor only, it would be worth it to some folks. I think it's an amazing tool for a vlogger or KZbinr.

[@yardbacktv8723]

It should be worth noting that you CANNOT do more than one simultaneous 4k recording as the device doesn't have the bandwidth for more than one, which kinda defeats the object of having the SDI inputs for my small setup. I have 3 4k cameras outputting over SDI, ran them into my Shogun 7 and it doesn't work. So this box ain't all its cracked up to be, better off buying a proper live switcher, to top it off, it gets VERY HOT, even with a single camera, it is quite slow in switching between playback and recording mode and although this guy claims theres an improvement on the user interface, i think it still sucks in comparison to some touch screen devices we are now accustomed to. One of my main reasons for buying this was so that I could record my audio from external mics directly into the Shogun 7. They claimed it had XLR but the input looked weird to me. It then turns out you have to buy a special cable from Atomos (who are the only ones that make it) which converts 2 real stereo XLR plugs and converts them into the Atomos port on the side which costs £120. You have to buy it because nobody else makes it and its only for that purpose. Why isn't that included in the box? Thats been done deliberately to squeeze a few more £££s out of people. This is an honest opinion from someone who's owned and used this for 3 months in a studio location setup. Don't blow your £1300 like I did, its not worth it. This box is worth like £400 if you ask me. If you want to use the SSD case that comes with it, make sure you use the high speed samsung evo drives(which are twice as expensive as the normal ones), I had to learn that the hard way, also this won't come with a sata 11 connection for that. Again I was a sucker thinking there was something about their special Atomos sata 11 connector to find out it is just a branded version of £10 product you can find on Amazon. Atomos are using the apple model to make money off people, sell you the skeleton product and overpriced accessories. Companies with this type of business practice will survive when they have products for the masses like Apple do, when your're selling niche products like this it appears they have a really short sighted business model as I won't be buying any of their products again. In 2 years time there will be some chinese company making a product like this for £200.

[@RuskinKyle]

The monitor improvements aside, does this improve on the Inferno’s biggest issues - battery consumption & overheating?

[@magnusgotander3954]

You are one if the best to explaine video gears. Great !

[@PirateShot]

Thanks for the good comparison!

[@fritzroysmith8526]

ProAV TV, please please do a comparison between the Ninja V + and the Shogun 7, which is better and more future proof?

[@juancasotelo4126]

Excellent comparison my friend! From Lima - Perú

[@MikeMatzke]

I think this is will be a good match for the FS5. Fingers crossed

[@Bigworld_Productions]

When will AtomOS 10 be available for the Shogun Inferno?

[@OB_shredder]

So those of us with the INFERNO shouldn't hold our breath for a multi cam update??? Will Inferno get AtomOS 10.4?

[@jessecohen1]

I tried putting the Shogun 7 firmware on the Inferno ....it didn't work 😭

[@crutchesordie]

Could you compare this to the 7" Blackmagic Video Assist?

[@SkriblesX]

having worked with the MB Video Assist and the Shogun Inferno.I can easily say that the shogun wins in almost all catagories. However, if you own a black magic camera, they tend to not play nice with atomos

[@mannyb4265]

@@SkriblesX in what way do they not play nice?

[@SkriblesX]

@@mannyb4265 I haven't tested myself with the Shogun. But in the previous generations of their products just seemed as if the companies purposefully didn't place nice with each other. Sometimes Atomos monitors wouldn't even display what Blackmagic signals through HDMI or SDI. This probably stems from the slightly hostile history between the two companies. This is why you won't find any built in log/film profiles on Atomos devices. I believe the shoguns will accept signals from the Blackmagic cameras now, but don't expect any support for external recording in Braw or even built in luts to convert BMs log/film profiles.

[@massakidi]

Atomos products lineup names are really stupid , it’s so hard to understand what’s what. Thanks for the video. Btw is there any recorder capable of doing 4k 120p? I was once on a set recording at 120p on z6 and the atomos inferno wont even display anything when one choose 120p so basically the monitor is useless I really wish I could display it at 120p

[@BenJordan]

I get 4K 120 DCI from my FS5 to the Shogun Inferno & Shogun 7 (4 sec burst).

[@IridiumMoon]

I agree the Atomos naming conventions are daft, and appear somewhat random. For a newcomer to the technology it's difficult to understand the model range, both past and current.

[@ereceeme]

If they had a 5-inch version for sdi raw Id buy.

[@shem44]

5 inch is too small for quad view

[@ereceeme]

@@shem44 yes for those that need quad view. but many dont

[@Emperor-2029]

Can Atomos Shogun Inferno record 4K RAW with Sony A7iv via HDMI?

[@Danumals]

Thanks for the great comparison. Question, does anybody know if the fan noise or heat issues are any better with the new Shogun 7??

[@98JamesNixon]

Can we have some more in depth videos on the C500 mk2 & FX9?

[@ProAVTV]

We are working on more. Anything you are hoping to see in particular? Carl

[@georger.rmartinhat9366]

Theyre hella not worth the upgrade but it looks like the inferno is discontinued everywhere now

[@justinweilyDOP]

the difference is updates for the shogun inferno firmware doesn't work

[@Medialook]

Hi There. Thanks for the vide. What about audio switching - is this synced with the video?

[@ProAVTV]

You can set it to change along with the video, or to work separately Carl

[@nigellewis8461]

love your videos

[@SkriblesX]

can you choose to output a quad split on the shogun like you can with the odyssey?

[@263Tanaka]

How is this really a comparison when 99% of the video was talking about only the shogun 7?

[@johnnyray5515]

Can I use the Atomos Shogun 7 wirelessly, without it actually being wired into the camera?

[@nathantaylor6378]

If you had a separate third-party external transmitter/receiver yes.

[@sanilalkuttimon1755]

😍😍😍

[@guccipurse]

Why isn’t there just an app for this. Way can’t I use my iPhone as a monitor?

[@kitbaker9134]

You can on the Red Komodo.That'll probably become more common with new cameras

[@jamesbridges1107]

Multi cam?!? 4 years after the Odyssey 7Q+...way to go Atomos

[@ya_yayjude3120]

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