touch this sign & you're stuck forever. why?

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[@a_lexine]

i swear, the more bugs shounic finds, the closer we are to tf2 just being entirely rewritten purely through individual bugfixes

[@hirotrum6810]

ship of theseus

[@surytrap]

wild alexine appears

[@boldCactuslad]

@@hirotrum6810 per athenian law the original ship stops existing as soon as the mast is removed you are allowed to have Theseus' Ship II - you must pay the duty and do the seaworthiness inspection for the designation and pay some other tax and bam you have a ship. ive been pointing this out for years and philisophers have never recovered

[@mrsqueaksrules]

@@boldCactuslad you've done it lad, you've solved philosophy, now all the philosophers can stop arguing and move on with their lives

[@ItzaLukkeri]

@@boldCactuslad So what you're saying is we already have TF3

[@adamnielson42]

I mean it warned you, it says it's a point where you'll get captured.

[@NoNameAtAll2]

okay, this one was good

[@nremac]

pin this shounic

[@smolbrendan5978]

i like this one

[@TheRealMycanthrope]

Beat me to it, take my like 👍

[@aperks]

wth with the replies

[@SouYef]

Huh?

[@philo-]

I wish a sign would suck off my soul tbh

[@tiny_alsoundertaleiguess]

@@philo-

[@The_D_ray]

@@philo-

[@МаксимКамышенков]

​@@philo- wish a sing would suck me off

[@GermaphobeMusic]

@@philo-Based

[@ihavenoideadanny]

“you must actually get a *heart attack* to resume playing the game”

[@philo23]

I'm pretty sure it's going to be related to the same dynamic prop stuff, but there's a spot on pl_badwater in blu's first spawn (left corridor) between some pipes sticking out of the wall and a dolly carrying some.. wheels or something... where if you jump into it at just the right place you get wedged in, until you try to walk backwards and then you get violently thrown on the floor. The longer you wait the more damage it seems to do

[@gravidust.2]

5:10 i remember being extremely confused cause i couldn't recreate this a while back, you live you learn

[@Youhadabadday2021]

One: I've seen this exact thing happen to Jameskii. Two: I actually never knew that that particular sign changed!

[@vibaj16]

my mom's keyboard makes a ringing noise when you press a key fast

[@JM-dq7xn]

These visualizations are always appreciated

[@ino1820]

Your videos are really intereasting and get me learning about a game from 2007

[@fenn_fren]

I never noticed that the signs change direction. That's really neat!

[@Lucasberrin]

3:54 "You must get a heart attack..." *dies*

[@populistscum]

scout is just magnetic. :]

[@kuroblakka]

Me and a friend found that glitch by ourselves while playing like a month ago lol, it was very funny

[@Jmcgee1125]

The fix is one line of code. Fantastic.

[@Xarenth]

that's crazy, first time i ever saw someone get stuck here was just yesterday

[@stefanandrejevic2570]

Someone add the one line fix as an community fix in the steam workshop

[@kiroma0]

5:10 oh my god that explains so much

[@austen3825]

I remeber report this like 6 years ago as an exploit, since if you rocket jump into it with an air strike you can technically trigger the faster reload and firing rate, add a dispencer and boom soldier turrent.

[@LiquicitizenAntoine]

really worrisome we end up stuck

[@emanvidmaker]

near door stuck experience

[@ronaid-with-an-i]

I actually jumped into this with the thruster like 2 years ago, initially thought it was related to it

[@SCP-tn2ln]

Nooo, stepbrother, what are you dooooing

[@chocolatelover19]

this is interresting if only we had this sort of thing for skyrim annversary edition

[@mikonson4091]

In all my years of playing tf2, I never knew this was a thing and never seen anyone get cought by it

[@ceu160193]

That sign is called "capture point", so you get captured.

[@cheetahmazing]

Oh, Thats where jameskii got stuck on

[@DudemanntheOriginAl]

I forgot this channels name and I was typing in topics of your videos to find you again 🗿

[@mrstudent9125]

Spy used superglue to troll the enemy team.

[@Pacca64]

Prop_dynamic is a fundamental base Source entity, Fixing this could potentially cause an update to every Source Engine game prior to the Alien Swarm branch!

[@SpacerZVEVO]

How have I never heard of this

[@Gardeningismypassion833]

Capture the point but it captures you

[@LovelyBlazingRush]

So thats how that youtuber got stuck (that one with the green pyro duel i forgot his name)

[@littlefieryone2825]

I'll be honest, before this video I'd forgotten that those Capture Point signs exist.

[@MrRobotsk8r]

Love you shou

[@trollsansofficial]

It captured you.

[@DamianQualshy]

I NEVER EVEN SAW THIS, WHAT

[@sshuckle]

"Gravity? Who gives a crap about gravity?"

[@RighteousBisonEnjoyer]

Scout glue trap

[@thehittite6982]

Now here's the question, does getting stuck in the big sign still count as rocket jumping for the purposes of the Air Strike?

[@marker9308]

please make a video about the hats and gibs that spawn out of nowhere!

[@NecroBurt]

I come for the gabe remixes at the end

[@0hellow797]

Beautiful graphics, loving this channel ❤

[@thelifeless125]

yo I remember this from a super old Muselk video, good times...

[@caramelldansen2204]

you know, I've actually never got stuck on that sign... ig I just never take the low ground?

[@dogemaster9676]

what should i eat for lunch shounic

[@uhhhhhhidkkkkskamsksk]

spaghetti code

[@sarahkatherine8458]

SIGN STUCK!!! I BEG YA

[@Hexarth]

20 years ago, valve would've hired this man without an interview

[@CharCole]

It's the funniest sign in the game

[@blckmesa5319]

If god had wanted you to be stuck then he would not have created a heart attack!

[@vasiaswolfram3113]

3:52 Average TF2 casual server

[@trompetguy6890]

I have somehow never seen or heard of this ever but I can't wait to see people intentionally jump into this sign on upward

[@willtheoct]

works well with the air strike or a det jumping pyro

[@dis_pencer]

5:08 i've seen soooo many ppl stuck here, especially soldiers. I even stuck here once

[@ouroya]

i was literally doing this yesterday lmao

[@Drew_42]

Get your signjumping in right now before it's fixed

[@DoABarrelRol1l]

As a cart-rider I get stuck on low hanging signs daily :( To the point where I dismount the cart when pushing up that hill.

[@brunon554]

Just a question, did you make a video about hats popping from nowhere, or other particles (like water droplets) popping too? If no, that would be an interesting topic in my opinion

[@wolfcl0ck]

Ooh, that's a good idea! Have always wondered *why* people's particles and parented objects will sometimes just pop in seemingly random places on maps.

[@uis246]

Same question

[@criptfiv3]

yes, its mentioned in a bugfix video i think

[@skipmanghondarg]

**Split-second A-pose Pyro appears**

[@cloverlovania]

i thought that was an intentional easter egg tbh

[@Adusakful]

So this is why you get stuck on that infamous tunnel exit when standing on top of the cart sometimes, it was the sign all along, not the cart pushing you into the ceiling as I thought

[@daedliy963]

the editing used to illustrate the map loading at 1:40 is nothing short of perfect, holy shit

[@jwump]

doukutsu-rs real

[@daedliy963]

@@jwump jwump sighting at 3am

[@watema3381]

@@daedliy963 daedliy sighting at 10pm

[@SurmenianSoldier]

@@watema3381 watema 3 sighting at 5pm

[@nexieadr]

@@SurmenianSoldier surmenos sighting at 2pm

[@StickMaster500]

Don't you hate it when you get stuck and consumed by the invisible black hole on Upward?

[@tappajaav]

No but I hate it when stickmaster gets stuck in youtube for 10 years

[@TheDiner50]

No. That is fine. Upward is like the best map in the game. And this bug has not ones made it known in many thousands of hours playing it for me anyways. Far worse is that the plant might not have survived after the janitor was determent to not live up to Valve work politic standards and so promptly fired. Should have helped making Artifact or whatever. Since that is just the way it is. RIP the last standing TF2 Dev. Incredible you made it passed 2020-2022 lock downs. Love you forever pot plant. You will be missed.

[@SchemingGoldberg]

What are you doing, step-sign?

[@davisdf3064]

Now, I'm going to intentionality get myself stuck in there, just to troll and scream "HELP!"

[@GewelReal]

Stick

[@Micha-Hil]

you ever just accidentally hit a sign and suddenly get forced into infinite suffering

[@tappajaav]

BIND "E" "EXPLODE"

[@JM-dq7xn]

yes, except there was no sign

[@redstonewatcher6651]

maybe that is a sign that uh,,, that you uh,,, should stop playing scout or something

[@Vincer]

how many signs have you jumped to IRL? This could be acurate simluation

[@LiterallyInternet]

Well thats not a good sign...

[@blacklight683]

1:41this map loading is actually cool, how did you do it so well? its like entering a simulation

[@vaan_]

probably took different clips with the different rendering modes then video edited the transitions between them

[@ViciousVinnyD]

yep, if you stays till and turn on wireframe mode you can take a screenshot of the map in wireframe, then overlay with a wipe transition in the video editor

[@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439]

A new video with new mysteries, even after all these years, this game is proven to be timeless in every aspect.

[@Dribbleondo]

Except for when it comes to having a good anti cheat and decent monetisation.

[@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439]

@@Dribbleondo good anti cheat problem could've been solved with Valve being more involved.

[@damsen978]

You must be new because the bug from this video is almost 2 decades old.

[@soupcangaming662]

@@damsen978 You're not even 2 decades old.

[@damsen978]

@@soupcangaming662 Bet i'm way older than you both physically and mentally. Especially when i'm compared with someone who has a simpsons meme for a pfp, says a lot about your mental age.

[@Goldenleyend]

You can use the sign to get permanent increased attack speed with the airstrike

[@jesusmendoza297]

And permanent market garden crits.

[@LinksYTLink]

Time to either have a bunch of people purposefully getting stuck in the sign or for it to be patched within a few days

[@BiblemanTF]

It would have been patched by now, but it doesnt make the game unplayable so valve just wont fix it, ever.

[@GewelReal]

@@BiblemanTF it is literally unplayable

[@BiblemanTF]

@@GewelReal elaborate on how very few unfortunate players get stuck in a very specific way from time to time is a game breaking bug. It doesnt affect everyone on the server either.

[@GewelReal]

@@BiblemanTF literally unplayable

[@anactualseagull5980]

​@@GewelReal >killbind >Literally fully playable

[@Misuune]

Regardless of much of a tangled "spaghetti" TF2's code might be, I still find it quite interesting to learn the inner workings of Source Engine and see a occassional in-depth analysis of strange bugs.

[@adog3129]

i never realized how many signs swap out after points are captured. that's really cool. explains how they always seem to have signs pointing in the right direction

[@ruff_crane]

I remember getting stuck on that second sign leading to second. I was a Heavy on the cart and just got left floating in midair. I shot some people down before an obvious Spy came along. I pretend to not notice him but turned around at the last second before shooting him down. Then I kill binded and went along my way. Never change, TF2.

[@joseaca1010]

4:03 that unstuck procedure seems horrifyingly spaghet to me, its the sort of stuff id write as a quickfix and then say "ill clean it up later"

[@Moss_Dude]

I actually got stuck permanently on the second sign in upward in a real game before, as I was sticky jumping out of spawn.

[@SJrad]

Do you know why the position of demoman shields from your view model gets messed up and be seen elsewhere in the map. I know that since it’s still tied to you, what would normally be a slight movement when you rotate gets magnified, and the reason you can see it through walls is because how it renders on top of everything so that it there isn’t any clipping when close up against other objects.

[@Mrs.THECOMMUNISTCHANNEL]

SIGN STUCK, SIGN STUCK

[@kahlzun]

You stick to it because it's a capture point sign. It captures you.

[@K0Z1E]

What if SCOUT was BETRAYED by his team and TRAPPED in the CAPTURE POINT SIGN?

[@breadstevens3802]

I have always enjoyed how both teams will stop and dance around the stuck player. I hope it is never patched.

[@HeisenbergFam]

Its pretty dope how TF2 is a 2007 game and you can still learn new secrets

[@NexTDesigns]

we really need this comment in every shounic video?

[@LalitoTV]

Just wait until you learn about parallel universes in super Mario 64

[@-Kozloff]

​@@NexTDesignswhen people need to sell accounts... unfortunately, yes. i see this exact mf since day 2 of his existence.

[@thechanglongwang]

@@-Kozloff Why would you want comments to sell accounts

[@iamjustafisj]

​@@thechanglongwang making it seem legit ig

[@ncla02]

"you must get heart attack to resume playing the game" lmao, freaking youtube ad friendly guidelines.. what a workaround.

[@AzureWoof]

i've used this hidden ancient knowledge before to airblast people up into the sign for a sick combo (airblasting people while looking at a downwards angle launches them upward)

[@rekwass8879]

The edits are so clean, as always. Great video :)

[@wolfcl0ck]

What an utterly absurd error, that is actually genuinely wild.

[@bowserislazy]

This is definitely a Shounic video, undoubtedly.

[@SergioPSC]

Wait a minute, if the game has a built in mechanic to unstuck you, why does the door in badwater still trap you forever?

[@jange8782]

To be honest, that sign has become a part of the map. It would never ne the same if it disappears lol

[@dark_433]

i think i know why the area around 0:02 has a high view count, other than it's the first 2 seconds of the video of course

[@SodogeWow1337]

It would be a real shame if they quietly remove it in the next patch, it was so funny seeing random confused soldiers stuck in a wall after rocketjumping

[@Overlord_Destro]

Aren't there also some props that are solid but become non solid when meleeing them and running into it?

[@oktayyildirim2911]

5:02 I REMEMBER GETTING STUCK EXACTLY THERE! It all makes sense now!

[@GnomeKr]

I remember defending on the last and enemy demo sticky jumped himself onto the blue sign, got stuck for a solid second or two before dying to our heavy Everyone who saw it typed "XD" in chat including the victim of the glue trap

[@StoreMilk]

I love these weird quirks the source engine has. I've already been learning how to make stuff using the source engine and these videos encourage me to do it more. I was editing portal maps in hammer (specifically making it so you can save the companion cube) when I saw this vid in my recommended. Thank you for all the work you put into these videos, it inspires me to keep working in source.

[@SomeUsernameSomeoneElseTookIt]

science isn't about why, it's about why not!

[@maple653YTisannoying]

so the fanart of scout dying in a glue trap is actually in the game such dedication!

[@bl3icom]

Nice knowledge! Just wondering, could you check the window outside of Red's secondary spawn facing the bridge, top left? When I jump into it, it makes a black border around, seemmingly to stop you from going through, but this is not visible when youre just standing on the floor. Edit: I meant on 2fort

[@ContraryASMR]

This map also still has the Stuck spot on the boardwalk by the 2nd to last point

[@justinlua4848]

You breakdown such specific things in such an elegant and interesting way. It all makes a lot of sense and your editing is always so good. Thank you

[@keltonschleyer6367]

When I begin to see uniform, erratic behavior in pub servers I know Shounic has just dropped a video.

[@purplehaze2358]

Imagine jumping into a sign and violating just about every law of matter interaction as your flesh fuses with it.

[@kozlorog]

Literally me

[@yokuutsu9097]

The sign that makes you jump forever has claimed yet another victim

[@Kabutoes]

Sign has the highest k/d ratio than any tf2 player ever

[@TheMikirog]

I guess jumping at signs from below and escaping would require a considerably large nudge.

[@JM-dq7xn]

I get that reference

[@AcidTehObjectThingyIsBack]

"Man i can't believe i just got stuck and get into an endless suffering by accidentally touching and jumping into a single normal looking sign" (yummy spaghetti code)

[@brianery]

and if you get stuck under the control point sign, and have the rocketjumper, you can build a crap ton of speed by firing at the sign. then you can noclip and you go so fast you go way off the map. tf2 devs will add community content to their game, but not bugfixes, even if someone who barely knows any code can fix it (not referring to shuonic, he's the best coder i've ever seen)

[@uis246]

Magic of Source code leak

[@Zack_Wester]

I dont remember but isn´t the thing whit V_physics is that its more expensive to run then obb? Like I recall notes saying only use V_physics if thats the only thing that works and if you use it count manually how many you have used because to many will crash the game.

[@1chaplain]

RIP. This is gonna be gone by next patch. So many dumb memories of pubs turning friendly just at this sign

[@Germ357]

Actually this happens because the sign is very sticky and covered in goop, thanks! -valve