SIMPLE DRYWALL PATCH WITH NO SCREWS/WOOD

This is just another simple way to patch walls that I do when there is no easy way to screw the patch in. This is not a California patch.
Tools I use often:
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[@mb2308]

Nice job.......To everyone else in the comments below telling you how you "should have" done it, make your own frigging video and leave this guy alone.....This guy is a pro....

[@mariad4183]

that's right!

[@utubewillyman]

You're so skilled with that trowel it's like watching a concert violinist!

[@danielhall3595]

@Kaiser Billy fuck off

[@danielhall3595]

@Gideon Maxwell fuck off scammer

[@youngkim666]

You should see his switch crooks

[@Stan_sprinkle]

Or a cake baker

[@brianwall5680]

Vancouver carpenter, I just want you to know your videos really helped me with patch work. Thank you for the time you put into these. I feel very proud of the work i did in my living room and my family and I can’t see the old outlet patches at all.

[@giantnamekiandende8988]

Thank you FINALLY somone who did it without a piece of wood

[@pastoracahow5543]

You are awesome!!!!!!!! I just finished patching an old telephone jack box with this video. I'm a do it yourselfer and learned a lot today watching some of your videos. I send my husband to the store and I do the all the repairs. LOL You are the best by far. Thank you for taking time to video and post these for us! ;-)

[@lucianonarno1408]

For anyone saying “that’s not how you do it”. He isn’t stating this is the God given way to repair holes nor is he telling you how to do your job. He is presenting a very good way of patching holes. Use his tutorial as is, modify to fit your needs or do it as you’ve always done it. No one’s forcing you.

[@matthewrivera3000]

I think it’s a great method and far better than how most do it. That whole trade around the edge is ugly but this method where the tape goes under and comes out the edges is much better.

[@ackjar]

Hey Ben, thanks for this quick demo! I used this trick to patch a small hole in plaster over gypsum in my house, it's about an inch thick and explodes into dust with pressure -- rendering screws impossible to use. Really learning tons from your videos, keep it up you're helping us DIY'ers same a ton money and time!

[@ktroed6189]

OMG! This video was a life saver for me! Helped me to repair a number of holes without having to widen them in order to find the studs to drill the drywall piece into.

[@ralphsullivan8972]

That's a nice trick. I'm going to try that on my next job. Thank you for sharing your tricks of your trade and craft.

[@asuweasel]

Just what I needed, followed your steps and it has come out great. THANKS for great video !!!

[@adammorris9008]

Hey boss, my wife and I just bought a house in 2020, and we knew going in that the walls were going to be a point of consternation. I've been watching your videos over the past couple weeks, and I honestly feel like I've taken a class. I'm walking around now looking at everything and saying "yup, that's a pretty terrible cornering job" etc. You've given me a lot of confidence that I can do these repairs on my own and save ourselves a ton of money. Thank you for sharing what you know.

[@petergriffin383]

Me too, he's an excellent teacher and a true professional. 20 years ago the only way to get this kind of instruction was to actually have a job doing drywall. The beauty of KZbin!

[@itchy_gooch7933]

Never seen it done like this before. I always use wood and screws so this is a game changer. I bet that’s solid once it all goes off.

[@WayneWBishop]

Dude, this is genius. Kudos!

[@martinbrennan7491]

Love your work mate, I'm a carpenter in Australia haven't done a lot of flushing (not sure if that's what you call it in Canada?) Until this year with a new job, your vids have been a great help gosh I wish I was as neat and quick as you!!

[@recless8667]

Wish I had seen this video yesterday before I demo'd the fixture for the existing BR30 in my bathroom. I pulled the wiring but couldn't get any wood behind because of the mounting plate, so I cut out a big ass hole and went to town with the sawsall pulling out the fixture.

[@Simplify365]

THANKS! Now i can do it once and it’ll look great which means no one will ever know i moved my thermostat this video was a huge help

[@HandsomeBobTV]

So first off, thank you for these videos. I watched em for years over and over again and I finally got my first house, and I'm rebuilding it myself. First time doing carpentry too. Your videos helped. Also I had three drywallers fubar my house. And I know it's WRONG. because I did it your way and it worked. Hopefully...I'll find out tomorrow. Could be my fault since I'm new to mudding. YOU MAKE IT LOOK EASY!!! I struggle doing old outlets near corners or a foot off the floor. So my passes are sloppy and the ends of the mesh tape get straggly in the mud..so I still suck at it. But the 3 different mudders, mudding the surrounding area, then used paper tape over the outlet hole and then mudded with joint compound mixed with ez90 powder. I saw him mix that and I was confused. Next day. Mud cracked from shrinking. The other drywall guy left all the bumps on the walls and tried floating it with mud. So I got humps on it. I sanded it down and cutout the imperfections and mudded it with ez90 and warm water. No joint compound. The last guy used pink stuff to mix with joint compound and he globbed it everywhere and floated my walls out like big balloons. Overkill and lack of skill. I watch your videos BECAUSE every project you do is clean and methodical. These guys were animals. And I understand floating a wall. But not to hide all the corner beads and paper tape that's peeling up. So long story short. Thank you for documenting the process that I wish I did myself earlier and saved $2500 for 10 days of 3 shtheads who told me "I been doing this all my life"....one thing to say it. Another to show it. You my friend show your skill. I appreciate you!!

[@roberttrask6826]

Really appreciate your videos Ben. They have helped a lot.

[@harrypouncey9218]

Nice Ben! Wife see you make it look too easy. 😂 But she also said my ceiling looks pretty damn good as well. Thanks for all your teachings here on KZbin! 🥰

[@nakedhombre]

You’ve got a great technique thanks for sharing it visually worth 1000 words. Nice explanation good video👍🏼

[@HomeImProveMentHow]

Nicely done I’ve never seen that before so good job bro thanks for Sharon I’m new to your community keep up the great work look forward to hearing from you God bless bye for now Ken.

[@luistello1971]

Nice optimized solution, thanks Ben.

[@XSwordOfWarX]

Funny thing I came up with this same method on my own. Only difference is you added mesh on top where I only used mesh on the back brace. I didn't know about the California patch so that was totally new to me. These are great methods for areas that you don't want to go from stud to stud or leave extra wood on the wall.

[@carolynredinger439]

Great! I'm removing an outlet that is in the way of a mural, and this is perfect! 😊👍

[@myrepairguy9618]

That’s a neat little trick. I think I would still prefer to use a Cali patch though.

[@user-cr6ki4qs4y]

This is just what I was looking for! Thanks!

[@joshkersey2334]

Why is this oddly satisfying

[@lsabik88]

Great idea - that I was looking for. Thank you.

[@gottagit8772]

Man, you are an artist!!!

[@amusicthang]

Love the videos man thank you for your great content

[@johno.3693]

Pretty good. I'll try that next time and run into one.

[@AmericanPatriot-bp7cu]

You are an awesome craftsman.

[@sqqqrly]

Got an old phone jack box that I want gone before we install a tile back splash. Perfect!

[@thewholls7176]

Good job I’m a DIYer and I tend to get oversized popsicle sticks liquid nails them from behind let it dry for a couple of hours and then liquid nails the patch to the popsicle sticks but if you’re in the trade you probably don’t have time to wait for stuff to dry

[@frogface3975]

correct about the time

[@BeckVMH]

Haha this shows up in my Recommended... right after I used your instructions for a “California patch” to remedy this exact issue.

[@frogface3975]

same here but my hole was 12"x12" so the cali patch was best and worked a charm

[@FrancoDFernando]

Wish I saw this before I did this for two telephone boxes…I have one more though so this wiki still come in handy

[@michebre]

Thanks so much. this really helps.

[@arleenshamon9685]

Looks great 😀

[@wilverine1]

Thanks for all the videos budd!!..i need some advise..on a daily basis i need to go and do patches on small holes, screws, dings and dents..but i need to have a quick way to finish them until leave them ready to paint because the areas are always occupied and i want to knock them out as fast as i can..thanks in advance

[@TheLoobis]

I am so going to try this tomorrow at 8AM!!!

[@randyfitz8310]

Thanks Ben!

[@peterbrown8521]

Brilliant!!

[@Douglas-tz2oq]

Your channel has a video for every drywall challenge I run into in my home renovation projects. Thanks for all the great content. I always look to your channel first and find what I need. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@x2malandy]

Pretty smooth drywall guy.

[@yanchinggao]

Great video thanks

[@fortuneonfinance]

Thanks man.

[@jerrycrawford8983]

You make this look easy, for me i feel like a cat covering up crap on a crap floor, the more i work the worse it gets!!

[@aaahillshandyman..bellavis864]

Seems like a lot of work but appreciate that it is an alternative method.

[@sonwasup]

AAA Hills Handyman .. Bella Vista Handyman oh yes that thing called work

[@mariad4183]

Very cool!

[@chrisv4640]

I use a method an old timer taught me, he called it a "hot patch". I cut a scrap of drywall down to size plus 1-2 inches in each direction. Then I turn the scrap over so I am looking at the back of it and I then cut through just the back paper edge to edge, a little smaller than the size of the hole. The cut lines will look like a # pound sign. Then I snap the drywall and peel the excess off starting from the center out. This leaves the front paper as a flap only still attached to my patch piece. Then I smear some quickset around the back edge of of the patch where the drywall ends and the flap begins. This mud will fill in the gap behind the flap and bond to the edges of the hole. Then just insert the patch into the hole after smearing mud around the hole on the surface of the wall enough to adhere the flaps. Smooth off the excess and feather edges. Let dry and proceed to next coat of mud like any other patch.

[@BOHICA_]

Isn't that a California patch?

[@davewaltham1470]

@@BOHICA_ Hot Patch, California patch and Butterfly Patch are all terms I have heard for the same thing as Chris said. I think it is a lot less work than the method in the video personally.

[@ManyaP64]

You just saved me $2500. I’m doing this in my house following an electric rewire.

[@sometimeshome]

Same!😊

[@mgrifi]

hello, what excatly is this quick set you are using? Thank you for the video! I need to patch two holes like you had in this video.

[@erickgutierrez6743]

Damn he makes it look easy

[@kyle2kmaxima]

nice job!

[@frequencyfuct]

You can also cut your wallboard patch leaving 1/2" of excess paper still attached around the perimeter. Then no taping is needed.

[@me_et_moi]

California patch if so.

[@Kotep]

great vid

[@riinzamai3369]

awsome bro .

[@julioleal1213]

Master 👌🏼🔥🔨🙌🏻👷🏻

[@Here_Today_]

Is that a back scrubber in the bucket?! Brilliant😁

[@TOMTOM-nh3nl]

Thank You

[@lordosmosisx8653]

Subscribed. You're awesome

[@nogiallstar6924]

Nice! Now to fix the holes I punched in the wall

[@MasterMayhem78]

Maybe work on your anger issues first so you don't have any holes that need patching??

[@nogiallstar6924]

CyberCyborg 20XX true true

[@HomeImProveMentHow]

86👍Keep up the great work and look forward to hearing from you God bless bye for now Ken.

[@benitahaig7695]

your awsome just what a lady was looking for without a husband being home

[@martinespinomusic]

I wish you would’ve listed what brand of quickset you purchased because I went to Home Depot asked for quickset and they said that there was no company name by that name and they sold me something that they had called quick setting cement. I put that I grabbed put some water in it and it was a dark, dark gray yours was white. What brand did you get cause I want the white I don’t wanna put this gray junk on the wall because you know how difficult that’s gonna be to paint white over it please help. Thank you so much for your great video, it’s helped a lot I’m a musician not a repair guy, but being a homeowner now I’m becoming much more of a handyman

[@jeffreybajek9233]

A quick question....is there a reason you’d use this style of patch instead of a California Patch?

[@JepoyIgana]

I wish ive seen this video before patching up a whole on the wall. I used spackle and mesh tape. I shouldve done it your way. Im in th process of sanding the dried spackle. Is it still possible to start over and do your way? Or am i too far into my "patching"?

[@thomasflynn6307]

Nice

[@uncoiledmarrow]

was just wondering,,,,,now I know. Easy is for me lol

[@audreyyoung5154]

I have seen some one use just the drywall no tape they only thing they did was use the paper on the area around the drywall

[@Richardsumilang]

What did you coat it with? Do you have a video on coating examples?

[@71TFFC]

Ben, the local Fire Dept had to come out because of a faulty AC outlet and they cut the drywall above the outlet. It's a hole about the size of the outlet directly above the outlet. Can I repair it using this method on just the three sides I have or should I try and get some wood behind it and screw it in?

[@mikebonge7206]

Great

[@DekorumISP]

Ben, when you say "quick set" can this be substituted with thin set mortar (for tiles) or with spackle? If I understand correctly we don't want to use an all purpose joint compound here.

[@dumbwaller]

I might have teased you about the hawk and trowel but you know what you're doing.

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Was that you over on the skate channel? It takes me a bit to remember names from the comments.

[@dumbwaller]

Vancouver Carpenter. Yep I follow both. I like your videos, you do a great job on both channels.

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Got it:) Your the fellow skateboarding drywall finisher from Portland area:)

[@dumbwaller]

Vancouver Carpenter yep!

[@jayworner795]

I’ve been using metal patches lately and they just suck. I was going to use drywall then I came across this old video now I know I’m using drywall on mesh tape

[@RadioMartyT1B]

A lot of work. Just cut your drywall piece to "pressure fit" and throw some mesh tape on the seams. Takes some practice estimating measurements that will fit with a tiny bit of friction, but it can be even faster than California Patches. Works generally on pieces smaller than 8"x8".

[@EthanChollak]

Just grab some insulation ball it up and stuff it in the hole. Then fill the rest with concrete fill. Saves so much time

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Do you put mesh tape over it after it's set?

[@EthanChollak]

Vancouver Carpenter yah but i use paper tape

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Okay. I was just making sure. That's not a bad idea. Longer drying time if your in a rush but otherwise pretty quick and easy. Where do you live? Con-fill is a West coast Canadian thing.

[@EthanChollak]

Saskatchewan

[@CP-zj1hx]

Easy on the California remarks.

[@glenngriggs6445]

Are you the same guy that does the skateboard vids, if so that’s awesome

[@elenar4543]

Looks easy. But not for ordinary people. 😀

[@eadweard.]

Is this the guy I was watching do nollie flip noseslides recently? Strange coincidence if so.

[@topfuel29channel]

Way easier idea here. Cover the hole with a 6"x6" framed picture. And now you have a Hide-e hole to stash your stuff. Things you need. A hammer or Rock, Picture, and Nail. Total job time 2min. (tops)

[@joewellindowd5664]

A 6x6 picture frame hanging off the floor isn’t obvious or anything. It would be the first place I look

[@harryl7946]

Maybe place a pic of a pet ......... or a predator 😱 to keep unwanted animals away from that area. Quick and easy!

[@sonwasup]

topfuel29 my wife might have another idea

[@Schlumbucketreturns]

I'm a total amateur, but I use an electric sander to sand around the edges, take a rigid foam sanding block cut to the size of the hole to use as filler, mud over the top, and then sand it down once it dries.

[@kingkoopur9212]

I like your method i hate the idea of using drywall clips because they require screw 2 each side so 8....and screws show through drywall over time

[@High_Desert_Tanner]

This situation is where I would normally Cali patch it. Seems easier, flatter, and stronger than this... I could be wrong though.

[@miamiracer]

I need t get a larger trowel, my problem has been trying to patch using a two inch putty knife!!

[@PaulJonathanWpg24]

What is the difference between the quickrite product and the second finishing coat product? One's rougher, one is for finishing? Is it that simple?

[@frogface3975]

1st dries much quicker but rougher and harder to sand, 2nd has opposite qualities

[@iandentry167]

Hey Ben. Pretty sure I said to keep that trick our little secret.

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Hi Ian:) Wow!! I can't believe you saw this video. I have considered calling it the Dentry patch! I have however seen some other people do it too.

[@iandentry167]

And wearing a white t-shirt. I think you may have been listening to what I was saying.

[@iandentry167]

Well I think it would have to be called the Tony patch as that is where I got it from. I didn't invent it. Good one though right. Give me a call and I will take you for lunch . Would be nice to reconnect.

[@vancouvercarpenter]

I don't think I have it anymore it's been so long. I wouldn't recommend putting it in the comments though. I am on instagram and can be easily reached there @ben degros.

[@riinzamai3369]

awsome vids bro.. i hve a can of gorilla expanding foam.. i blast in hole it expands out 20min l8a its dry ..i cut flush wth wall and plaster with 5min quickset..

[@jeffebner6701]

You have turned me into a mudoholic.

[@kristinaclark9542]

I can do a beautiful California patch but anytime I use mesh tape I'm not happy with it. I can always, no matter what I do, tell the tape is there. Any ideas?

[@JimmerJoMoore]

Do a "tape and mud" coat, then skim it out after it's dry far enough that u can't tell there's a very slight incline in the mud over the tape ..

[@ak6781fan]

That low to the floor just cover it with an ac grill or a pet door. (Joking)

[@elonmusk8667]

What was the first mud you used? The bag says concrete.

[@nicoguar1]

Can u make one about estimate ?

[@Mike-si5tt]

Was that second coat, quick-set? Or All purpose?

[@MasteringHow-To]

Does a fan speed up the drying and make it crack?

[@vancouvercarpenter]

The fan won't make it crack. Too much regular mud laid too thick will crack when shrinking. Quickset won't shrink or crack.

[@beckyb8929]

Are both pieces of the mesh tape on the outside of the wall/on same side of the patch? I can't tell if one of them goes with sticky side against the wall and then behind the patch and back out the other side. I tried with both on the pieces of tape on the outside and the patch seemed to cave in a little so I ripped the whole thing out thinking it would fall through with nothing behind it.

[@natashasimpson8917]

He used 2 pieces of tape on the back of the drywall where the sticky side is, he made it like a plus sign ➕. Then he put some of the quick set also on the back of the drywall on top of the mess, on the side that is going inside the wall. Then he put more tape on top of the drywall followed by the quick set. So tape on both sides! I know this comment was 3 years ago but I hope it helps anyone else that is confused!!

[@edgarshoe]

what do you use that brush for?

[@n1ghtblur]

most electrical boxes are just held on by nails and you can quickly take a sawzall and cut right through them without damaging the drywall anyway, then the box can be pushed down into the wall

[@jayjayhooksch1]

Multitool works great too, a little more weildly for a small job like this.

[@AJohnsonJr]

If you took the time to watch all 6 minutes and 25 seconds of the video, you would understand why he did it this way. Do you think that you're teaching him something? He knows how to cut out a box.

[@jayjayhooksch1]

@@AJohnsonJr Obviously he knows how to cut out a box, but someone watching the video might not, and since that is the most professional way to do this repair it is worth mentioning.

[@AJohnsonJr]

@@jayjayhooksch1 For the people who do not know how to cut out a box, this video is perfect. The most professional way to do a repair is to get a professional. If you had watched the whole video, he explains why he would do a repair like this. He also explains that people just might want to do it this way.

[@jayjayhooksch1]

@@AJohnsonJr except it's not because this is not the most professional way to do this. I would know, I'm a professional, that's why I took the time to comment.

[@johnbrain8408]

I do a similar thing only with paper tape.

[@beckyb8929]

Does the tape go entirely on the outside of the patch or around the patch?