Sir Alan Tommy Lascelles advises The Queen

[@streets7698]

Everybody gangsta until tommy starts speaking!

[@meroromancer]

I love this comment, he be like E.F. Hutton.

[@visionarylady7128]

🤣🤣🤣🤣😁😁😁. I like that!!!

[@BurhaanProductionsDeen]

HE IS A DESCENDANT OF THE PEAKY BLINDERS😅😎💯

[@RozitaVideo]

I love this comment so much that I say it when I watch his scenes.

[@lauralarrabee7870]

I wonder if there was a Sir Tommy style discussion about Meghan Markle

[@NVRAMboi]

He mobilized the English language and marched it through the brothel, while leaving it's virtue entirely intact.

[@babysealsareyummy]

Severely underrated comment

[@peg202xo7]

@@babysealsareyummy I'll say!!!

[@rutrose2000]

Indeed.

[@NotimeforThis-fd4ye]

He was well written as a character, you on the other hand sound utterly insufferable and puritanical.

[@siobhan110]

❤

[@rd3ster]

The actor playing Lascelles is so perfect, superbly perfect. The control. The understatement. Brilliant. Whole series satisfies the ideal of drama: to be informative as well as to be entertaining.

[@saa82vik]

rd3ster yes, and even if he's so restrained he manages to communicate a raw undercurrent or energy always flowing when he speaks.

[@CriticalenquiryOrg]

That's Pip Torrens, and I agree. Seeing him makes me want to have met the real Tommy Lascelles, or at least to read his book!

[@huiarama]

Here here

[@miss19lolo]

He's always in historical pieces. Seems like that's his specialty.

[@telfordrunners3254]

well all the script have been prepared

[@ladyvader2648]

If he were still the Queen's secretary in season 4, he would have fixed the whole Charles and Diana fiasco lmao

[@Mr_M_]

He wouldn't have let them marry in the first place

[@ruthgoebel723]

Tommy was a genius! Tommy’s expertise is sorely needed these days, as well.

[@bricktam]

@@Mr_M_ At the very least, he would've made sure contact between Charles and Camilla were extinct.

[@kwunmun]

If he were still the Queen's secretary in season 4, he would have stopped the queen from doing stupid action against the PM, and hence no one would have been resigned...

[@anneneville6255]

He reminds me of Tywin Lannister :D

[@robertperry814]

There is a story that Princess Margaret ran into an aquaintence who asked her "how is the Queen" to which Margaret replied, "which one, my mother, my sister or my husband?"

[@idk-wv1sf]

Why husband

[@robertperry814]

@@idk-wv1sf because her husband was bisexual.

[@KoiYakultGreenTea]

Really see how she’s ‘Vice Queen’ as she says in season 3. Poor Margaret

[@MsTinkerbelle87]

Margaret was before her time lol

[@visionarylady7128]

🤣🤣🤣🤦🤦🤦

[@HolgerRuneFan]

Tommy is, without any question, the most interesting and incredible character on the series. Once he left, the series was never quite the same.

[@LAK_770]

He's so great. My favorite moment is when Elizabeth visits his home to discuss her uncle and he's playing with his model army, and he frantically but discreetly repositions a soldier she's misplaced. Hilarious, but exquisitely understated as always.

[@desertezz]

Definitely, the first few seasons were the best. Never was quite the same.

[@audreykennedy90]

​@@desertezz season 5 was badly done.

[@qwill8254]

​@@audreykennedy90sadly done.

[@TheGrouchDnD]

I would have liked it if he was the main character. The mechanisms behind the royal machine are more interesting than the actual royals.

[@samcorrado5329]

Hands down, Tommy was one of my favorite characters. Stoic, composed, tough as iron, uncompromising, wise and loyal. Just the sort of man you'd want on your side!

[@anthonywatts2033]

I hope you are being sarcastic! He is one of the truly most horrible creatures unhung. Doing incalculable damage to the Monarchy .

[@kenoliver8913]

Just the sort of man you'd want on your side - and very definitely one you'd want NOT on your side.

[@mw89181]

He oozes classic British decorum and character. The exact same thing we have now lost thanks to progressivism and mass immigration.

[@SamvedIyer]

@@mw89181 Quite.

[@w9gb]

Pip Torrens owned the scenes (The Crown) he appeared. Great chemistry with Clare Foy.

[@efoulaki1]

“ tea or human blood, whatever that monster drinks” 😄🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@rickheady2298]

Monster the guy was a complete asshole

[@ds1868]

@@rickheady2298 he's brilliant!

[@Miuccia.]

When ?

[@efoulaki1]

@@Miuccia. huh???

[@dismallyhappy]

I kept replaying that part whenever I get to that scene. 😆

[@deutschliebe]

Tommy personifies “magnificent bastard.”

[@kenjinpiniteu]

@ric Gikonyo It's a TvTrope. The Magnificent Bastard archetype is a character who is known as a master gambiteer and manipulator, who plays the game on both sides to get what they want. A popular iteration is early GoT's Littlefinger/Peter Baelish.

[@rdjb9650]

This is the English language at its most sublime. The level of linguistic mastery involved here is a joy to behold.

[@neilreading3552]

Yes, a beautiful way of saying "he'll shag anything with a pulse".

[@worstchoresmadesimple6259]

@@neilreading3552 good grief, you don’t say, someone better hide the corgis

[@jaredconnor]

It's proper usage of English but ultimately basic. You'd have to be an imbecile to think this was sophisticated lol

[@EyeLean5280]

Doesn't hold a candle to James Baldwin, if you ask me. It's just ordinary conversational English, a bit polished up by posh prep schools.

[@michaelhayden725]

Yes it was, imho, the use of the English language at its political supreme. Even Churchill would have applauded.

[@DianaSanchez-oi5kb]

This man would’ve handled the Charles and Diana fiasco so much better

[@efoulaki1]

I couldn't agree more!!!! for starters, camilla would be vanished from the map.

[@jimmy2k4o]

Camilla’s bones would be buried in Tommy’s back garden.

[@Jeffery-Vanity-Blofield]

@@jimmy2k4o lol

[@nightofroses5959]

A helluva lot better

[@justoreynav.8625]

With only a visit and a few words...

[@RozitaVideo]

Netflix should bring back Pip Torrens and do an entire series on Tommy Lascelles' life. I could watch the Tommy Lascelles Show! He was my favorite part of "The Crown."

[@lar9299]

I would watch that spin off indeed. Better Call Tommy

[@MWayne-zz1cr]

Little known fact: Tommy Lascelles used to go by his birth name "Slippin" James Mackridge until he and his older brother had a falling out.

[@ds1868]

I can see it now, the lights flashing on the Strip in Las Vegas, 'The Tommy Lascelles Show'.

[@RozitaVideo]

@@ds1868 And I would book my tickets ASAP🤣🤣🤣

[@LaKellita]

Or a Spin off about Churchill with John Lithgow

[@arpeatasharma802]

The actor who played Tommy is by far one of my favorite... he is right next to Claire Foy and Venessa Kirby for me

[@567raman]

Absolutely true.

[@NurAfifahWidyaningrum]

me too 😁

[@LaPtiteAnglaise]

I was amazed to see him looking so different in Preacher. Phenomenal range.

[@coniston3106]

His deep sound makes it so satisfying

[@jasminderpinder]

Pip Torrens is a very good actor.

[@youraccountingprofessor5013]

There's something in Pip's voice that he adds to "Just the natural ones" that makes you feel the staggering breadth of his disapproval of whomever they were discussing...and yet he gets this sentiment across to the viewer without resorting to bluster or bombast. Brilliant actor. Clearly one who believes in the application of "the delicate touch" to his art.

[@luxitos2867]

I couldn't get past the magnitude of how asinine that phrase was. Not to mention his next few words and Elizabeth clutching her pearls. Dear Lord, a bi dude is getting laid. Alert the police! Fetch the smelling salts!

[@youraccountingprofessor5013]

@@luxitos2867 That's the benefit of living in a different era. One can look back with critical and contemptuous disdain on the ignorance and folly of preceding eras. Of course, in about 50 years, some officious, sanctimonious, pompous ass will probably be deprecating condescendingly on our comments.

[@africassky]

​@James Jones we understood that very clearly. It did not need explanation

[@africassky]

@James Jones so those comments weren't visible to me when I wrote that reply, hey ho

[@bwanadave76]

Tommy's not there to be loved. He's there to do a job - protect the monarchy. I appreciate his dedication and professionalism.

[@geecee310]

“These, are just the...natural ones” - as delicately put as may be.

As a gay man, I can't wait to try and use that line at my next dinner party! It's brilliant.

[@mikloscsuvar6097]

@ 😀

[@monmothma3358]

Very offensive, too, seen with modern eyes - but I know we shouldn't. The old logic is brilliantly shown here.

[@keldonmcfarland2969]

I love the English 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿. So prim and proper

[@RozitaVideo]

@ Wish I could upvote this a million times!

[@NigelTufnel612]

The English language is a beautiful thing when spoken properly.

[@jjrmmrrja4535]

Tommy Lascelles may have been an arse the entire time I've watched him on this show, but I like his character because he knew how to put people in their proper place. From Peter Townsend to the Duke of Windsor, he wasn't afraid to offend them or put them down in order to shield the royal family. There was that one scene when he and the queen were talking about Princess Margaret, where he said, "you can always put the blame on me". He knew how people viewed him, & doesn't hesitate to take the blame just to ease the queen's burden. In spite of everything I said, I would have still hate to know him in person. He will always side with the crown, never with anyone's personal feelings.

[@CaptainPikeachu]

The man takes his duty seriously. His job is to protect The Crown, so that’s what he does. It doesn’t make him likable but gotta give him credit for his dedication.

[@mscott3918]

He was very clever and discreet. He was also a closet homosexual.

[@jacktheripper5661]

@@mscott3918 he had a wife and kids bro

[@enlightenmentdoesntcomeeas5337]

You really dislike him? I think he's cool. Headstrong, dutiful, focused on the job.

[@jacktheripper5661]

@@enlightenmentdoesntcomeeas5337 he comes off like he’s evil and very rude especially that scene when he was lecturing the queen when she was kid and them Went off on Margaret and made her run out of the room crying

[@PerovNigma]

This actor has the most condescending voice in the world and I love him for it.

[@aroosajkhan]

The fact that despite after his retirement, he was still called back and Lascelles was really the man the Royal Family needed in time of a crisis. He served for 27 years, first as assistant private secretary to Elizabeth’s grandfather George V in 1926, then her uncle’s assistant private secretary, then her own fathers assistant private secretary then promoted to Private Secretary in 1943 and then Elizabeth’s and then retired in 1953. So despite what some may think of him, he knew exactly what to do.

[@lemorab1]

I read that Lascelles died at 94 years old in 1981. If he was in full possession of his mental faculties at the time of his death, then he lived long enough to see the match between Charles and Diana and to see that ghastly engagement interview where Charles infamously said, "Whatever "love" means..." I would've loved to hear what Tommy Lascelles had to say about that disastrous union. Maybe something along the lines of, "God help them, I'm too old and frail."

[@aroosajkhan]

@@lemorab1Apologies for responding back so late, I never received a notification of your reply. And yes absolutely, Tommy would have handled Charles easily like second nature and would have incinerated the love triangle between Diana, Charles and Camilla.

[@theroseexperience]

Lascelles was one of the highlights of arguably the best show of the past 5 years.

[@alextabet9247]

He served the crown, and nothing else. Even the monarch was not above the crown. And what a voice!

[@thehumanrightschannelbythe3958]

I lost it at the unexpected "These are the just the natural ones lol

[@poodtang2104]

I read between the lines on that one.

[@petraskvarc317]

what did they mean by it

[@not_an_author8972]

Petra Skvarc Gay relationships were regarded as “unnatural” at the time, so they’re basically saying that he also has male lovers on top of the several female lovers he already has.

[@poodtang2104]

@@not_an_author8972 Wow ..... he really did get around.

[@friedman01]

It was succinct and direct without actually saying the actual words.

[@AB034TX]

This man could have negotiated the end of cold war alone.

[@libertyvilleguy2903]

Of the many great characters in this fabulous series, Tommy Lascelles stands high. Loved every moment he was on the screen. Great, great job by actor Pip Torrens.

[@kevinburke2839]

I love Tommy straightening his cuff after laying the photos on the table. The body language of all 3 actors is spot on here.

[@rdjb9650]

"These, we should add... Are just the natural ones." Sublime.

[@popazz1]

I've read Lascelles' diaries and boy do they not pull any punches! They make for fascinating reading.

[@matador521]

Thanks. I bought them but haven't got round to them yet. Now I shall.

[@OrrosGG]

I freaking love Tommy Lascelles and also the actor portraying him, he’s the quintessential butler-like figure, the great Advisor, reminds me of Mr. Carson from Downton Abbey, a stoic and austere figure, but then of course essential. Pip Torrens and Jim Carter are so good at reprising the strict characters’ roles.

[@BatmanHQYT]

This scene was fucking hilarious. Elizabeth's horrified reactions, Tommy trying to sound formal and reserved, Adeane cringing in his seat, and just the whole aspect of Tommy making such a grand entrance just for the job of probing into a guy's sex life.

[@janluitzenroelevink1451]

Tommy dreams of becomes the king

[@luxitos2867]

It was astronomically stupid and cringe. That's what made it so funny to me. All that posturing and bluster over... someone getting laid.

[@BatmanHQYT]

@@luxitos2867 Exactly. Tommy and Adeane would've both had a stroke if they watched the Diana interview.

[@michaelhayden725]

What was unknown at that time was that he was not only conducting several affairs with unmarried women he had also been involved with wife of one of his closest friends and even fathered a child with her. BTW this couple, wife pregnant and all attended the Tony and Margaret wedding.

[@LordZontar]

@@janluitzenroelevink1451 No. People like Tommy Lascelles don't dream of being king. They figure it is not only their duty to the realm but their personal honour to serve the royal family to the utmost of their ability and discretion.

[@Jigme2727]

I'm so attracted to this man because he is so effortlessly masculine and dominant .

[@mrs.herculepoirot7763]

Netflix, when you are done wasting money on Harry and Megs please do a show on Tommy Lascelles. I find him fascinating and love the actor playing him.

[@cathybradley9067]

Amen

[@twylaputt6356]

Oh, FFS.

[@Melisblessed]

Racist

[@bym6952]

Idc what you say Tommy is one of my favorite characters of the whole series

[@lynnmcculloch-m4h]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@UrukEngineer]

"These are just the 'natural' ones." In other words, Anthony Armstrong-Jones had gay partners too. So very stiff.

[@UrukEngineer]

@Herbie Shevers LOL. You could not BE more wrong.

[@someinteresting]

So stiff? That was a time when this wasn't even fully decriminalised. And to talk to the queen about it is a very delicate thing. To talk to her about it directly - plainly inacceptable.

[@UrukEngineer]

@Evil Jester Ouch! That hurt.

[@mscott3918]

So did Lascelles, despite being married.

[@mscott3918]

@@Lynwen10 Actually not. He was a very discreet homosexual. During my working life I met a number of people who knew him.

[@Fredrikschou]

"as he pushes his medium...to its boundries". In a manner of speaking....

[@paddyhalligan28]

Photography I believe 😂

[@recollections-may-vary9328]

Just the natural ones...LOL. Tommy's shade is on a whole other level.

[@mbsheisey]

This was such an excellent example of "British reserve" and the actor played it superbly.

[@atomsmash100]

Tommy Lascelles on The Crown was the perfect courtier, and the one I loved to hate.

[@kb4903]

I can’t stand those lapdogs. Medals and knighthoods for bringing the queen a paper on a pillow.

[@Edmonton-of2ec]

K B That and planning a coronation, an staving off scandal after scandal

[@kb4903]

CanadianPrince I thought Phillip organised it? They have press secretaries to deal with the press too.

[@mscott3918]

@@kb4903 In the late fifties and early sixties the press office was run by Commander Richard Colville, who was renowned for being particularly uncooperative with the press. I believe he was the one who first called the media reptiles. The press office was much smaller then than now.

[@emmaventura8778]

The Crown has such stellar dialogue. So smart and subtle. What better proof than all of Tommy’s scenes.

[@mstomatito007]

Tommy Lascelles is the most passive agressive character in the tv series. I love it!!!

[@Teddy_Bass]

Wish I had this guy for business negotiations

[@audreykennedy8891]

The way silent Michael and Tommy keep looking at each other looking for the right words. 😂😂

[@davidgaveston654]

I didn't know Lascells is a bald actor in real life! That hair suits him best! Look so dashing

[@doublep1980]

I spit my coffee out, when he said: "....an oriental dancer named *Jackie Chan* " xD

[@SamvedIyer]

This one is apparently spelt, "Jacqui".

[@rrickarr]

Tommy Lascelles is the man and one of the great characters as long as he is in the series. Later when Lascelles resigns and no longer visits the palace, the same actor plays an assistant courtier. Brilliant acting---the best character in the entire series.

[@danplays1403]

Which episode is that? I’d love to see him!

[@2e1r3s2]

Tommy is just like sir Humphrey in yes minister, utterly in control and far more intelligent than his master or mistress in this case. Even his speech is humphrey like in it being long winded and the queen being none the wiser at the end of it. Fantastic acting and utterly enjoyable.

[@jimmyfong2202]

Well they are both civil servants... In fact less senior than Sir Humphrey come to think of it, he's about the same rank as Bernard, a 'mere' private secretary

[@h.calvert3165]

Don't kid yourself. She knew EXACTLY what they meant. She's no dummy, & she's used to people speaking. . .delicately. . .in her presence. 🤔

[@LordZontar]

@@jimmyfong2202 Well actually Tommy Lascelles would be the senior over Sir Humphrey as he reports directly to the Crown and not the ministries. There's a difference between being private secretary to a minister, even a Prime Minister, and being private secretary to the Sovereign. Particularly if that private secretary is also the monarchy's "fixer", which gives him far wider access and influence within the Civil Service which would be necessary for him to do such jobs.

[@jimmyfong2202]

@@LordZontar that...I suppose is true actually, access wise, I still underestimate the rank of the monarch...

[@paiman1976]

More like Sir Arnold

[@nicecute1221]

I love the way this man speaks. He can tell you everything without saying any thing 😂

[@saa82vik]

These... we should add... are just the natural ones. God I love Tommy,

[@monmothma3358]

I love the long break when the other guy can't find the words and looks to Tommy....

[@saa82vik]

@@monmothma3358 i know, right? You can see who calls the shots. Tommy was his ex boss and they managed to convey how he was really the ultimate courtier.

[@mscott3918]

Tommy would know, being gay himself

[@usagi18]

Who else wants a supervisor like that? Yes, he's an old-fashioned mustache guy, but he's not a "because we say so", he's patient enough to explain by detail why some things are and should be done that specific crazy way

[@mscott3918]

I had a supervisor called Sir John Johnston for some years when I was younger. Very much in the Lascelles mould.

[@AishwarryaWorld]

Tommy Lascelles all through.Would watch any show for him.What an actor! Bravo

[@missreds88]

I want a Tommy Lascelles spin-off

[@lar9299]

If the real Tommy Lascelles was indeed as portrayed on the series, he would have been indeed a very unpleasant person to be with, rather cold, observant, quiet, a bit frightening due to his extremelly emotionless speech but he is in fact a great character, cunning, clever, always one step ahead of absolutely everyone from the Royan family, to politicians to the press. Brilliant

[@bellaluna6966]

The proper way in which Tommy walks with his left arm behind his back is perfection.

[@robstevenson675]

I noticed that, and I’ve seen it before, but I haven’t the vaguest idea why it is done. Nor do I know why it’s “proper”. Could you enlighten me, please?

[@bwanadave76]

He tucks the near arm to whoever he is escorting. It prevents accidental touching avoiding the appearance of familiarity or causing the other person to be ill at ease.

[@robstevenson675]

Thank you!

[@hothotheat3000]

A true gentleman.

[@monalebon8016]

Also when he parts his in tails before he sits.

[@meisterjager41]

"As he pushes his medium---Photography, I believe." Brilliant. I love this language.

[@ri8255]

The sophistication in English languages far more higher in the first two seasons. No wonder many people find it boring and hard. Season 4 purely for mass audience with punchy lines, humour, melodrama.

[@yosrab95]

yes i had a hard time with that, too many insinuations and metaphors, sometimes it was hard to get the meaning. I was bored out of my mind in the first season and in most of the season 2 as well ( the only interesting episode was prince charles boarding school)

[@maritheresereyes]

Season 1 and 2 because of Claire Foy was The Crown at its peak so far.

[@bluecollarlit]

SJM 92, I've watched The Crown several times, and I get the feeling that I like seasons 1 and 2 the best. But I could not put my finger on the reason why... What is missing, or different, in seasons 3 and 4... Thanks for your comment, it can help me analyze this a bit...

[@inigobantok1579]

Charles and Diana's argument is mastery of the language mate

[@ahelibiswas3164]

Well season 3 and 4 are also the late 70s and 80s which in general are much less sophisticated eras than the time shown here so....

[@Bogie0315]

PipTorrens is the best. His delivery is spot on every time. Love Tommy!

[@keb107]

Pip Torrens is a brilliant actor.

[@dufus7396]

He got me at "these are just the "natural" ones... the tone in which he delivered that was menancing at the least

[@atulis2u]

Character of her majesty The Queen played by Claire Foy is itself so strong and to top that is truly amazing, Tommy has done a marvelous job.

[@markwilliams7091]

I love that line and delivery. "..........are the natural ones."

[@paulrath7764]

Can we have a series or movie just about Tommy Lascelles, played by Pip Torrens?

[@jrb1802uk]

Brilliant man , and Brilliant actor - Pip Torrens really nails him.

[@harryturner8701]

“ these are just natural ones” 😂😂😂 Old timey way of saying bisexual 😂😂😂

[@poetcomic1]

"...and those are just the natural ones." Understated and factual and yet leaves NOTHING to the imagination.

[@arthurnewman7461]

Well its not factual at all. There's nothing unnatural about homosexuality.

[@SgtAndrewM]

@@arthurnewman7461 yes there is

[@squares4u]

@@SgtAndrewM No there’s not. We don’t live in the 1400s anymore. Religion has convinced large swathes of people that it’s unnatural which is hilarious because so many religious people are the most closeted gays of them all… just look at the Catholic Church for proof 😂

[@SamvedIyer]

@@arthurnewman7461 You misunderstand; a trait perturbingly common today. The word 'factual' is in context of it being a 'fact' of trait of the person in question, Tony Armstrong-Jones. That is the very purpose of this scene: reporting facts pertinent to the man. It has nothing to do with the naturalness or otherwise of homosexuality.

[@luxitos2867]

@Meme Emperor "Natural" meaning here "exists in nature" which homosexuality literally does.

[@romavictoriano]

You know it's a serious problem the royals are dealing when you see this man around 🤣

[@lesleyschultz6846]

One feels bad for the Queen. She knows that if she refuses her sister permission to marry this man, even though in her moral landscape AAJ is a smoking nuclear blast crater who will probably make PM unhappy anyway, Margaret will never ever forgive her. Margaret is also getting older and the odds of her finding someone to start a family with may be diminishing not to mention that Margaret (although beautiful) is no bundle of fun. And the Queen would also know how miserable it can be for someone to marry into the royal family. She can't say no. All she can do is watch the train wreck when it comes. And she watched her children's marriages go to spectacular ruin in public-- except Edward. Somehow he managed not to destroy his marriage. But I think less was expected of him. Even if the Queen had a Tommy Lescalles with her in the 80's and beyond nothing was going to stop the Royal Family from the conflagrations that came later.

[@mxbx307]

One of Lascelles' children is still alive and another only died in late 2020. Wonder if they've seen this portrayal of him and what they thought of it? Lascelles himself died in August 1981. This scene refers to Anthony Armstrong-Jones who died on 13th January 2017.

[@andrewjohnston9115]

Great writing, delivered with total aplomb by Pip Torrens - excellent.

[@BurhaanProductionsDeen]

I lost it When he said “WiTH A JACKIE CHAN”😂😂

[@Hiruma312]

Jacqui, not jackie

[@Da_one_tl]

He said Jacqui

[@BurhaanProductionsDeen]

@@Hiruma312 my bad to me it sounded Like Jackie Chan

[@BurhaanProductionsDeen]

@@Da_one_tl my bad

[@tktru]

AIYA JACKIE

[@khfan4life365]

I love the clear disapproval in Tommy’s tone as he talked about Tony’s personal life. 🤣

[@spinlok3943]

He’s having a relationship with Jackie Chan?! I didn’t know his kicks swung that way if you know what I mean.

[@shirtless6934]

2:14 the expression on the Queen's face as he says "just the natural ones" is priceless.

[@halojones1843]

That look on Tommy's face at 1.26 says it all: "Oh dear, I really am going to have to spell it out in detail for her."

[@rowdelacruz6043]

I love all the scenes with Tommy Lascelles!

[@ayodari_style]

The way he says it so professionally and it’s still a bad burn!!

[@luxitos2867]

Not really. He sounds like a prejudicial relic trying to say things in the most dry and long-winded way.

[@marzi8087]

Yoo this man is a straight up G! My name for him is Tommy big balls, 10 toes down, Lascelles! Dis man ran the palace and low key stood on business WITH ANYONE

[@frazer3191]

If we 🇬🇧 still had a ‘Tommy’ the country would not be going to hell in a hand cart. He is a very special man and I salute him.

[@jessmorgan6732]

How I wish they'd made Tommy go into further detail. "We have obtained photographs that appear to show Mr Armstrong-Jones and Mr and Mrs Fry engaged in an act known as 'spit-roasting,' ma'am."

[@keldonmcfarland2969]

... "There is also evidence that Mr Armstrong-Jones' participated in what is called-by those in circles for whom the 'straight,' Christian path is not to their taste-'Eiffel Towering,' 🗼 Ma'am. Suffice to say that proper decorum limits any further of my description of the act in Your Majesty's presence. " -Tommy Lascelles, would be scene.

[@jessmorgan6732]

@@keldonmcfarland2969 Adeane: "It is also worth noting, ma'am, that we've spoken with a number of, ahem..." Lascelles: "Rent boys." Adeane: "Indeed, and all of them claim that Mr Armstrong-Jones paid them considerable sums to... ah... well, to..." Lascelles: "To defecate upon his chest, ma'am." Queen: "Goodness. All at once?" Adeane: "We did not think to ask, ma'am."

[@jcrossney]

@@jessmorgan6732 hahahahaha corpsing

[@bluecollarlit]

You tube commenters being hired as script writers for The Crown...

[@larchitecte5287]

@@jessmorgan6732 It's still nothing compared to the dirt that will make the child she is about to give birth to

[@Jeffery-Vanity-Blofield]

If they were to co exist, Michael Corleone would be checking under his bed for Tommy Lascells

[@corinam.2633]

Even the devil himself checks under his bed for Tommy, before going to sleep.

[@frenchustube]

‘These are just the natural ones” 😂

[@StevenTorrey]

Tommy Lascelles wrote two books about his experience as advisor to the Royal Family from 1935 to 1953.

[@keldonmcfarland2969]

His description of Eddy VIII is astonishingly bad

[@StevenTorrey]

@@keldonmcfarland2969 NO--his description of Edward VIII was spot on!

[@buddhidev7877]

Love his acting skill. Love the script.

[@British_loyalist]

Sir Alan Lascelles Is the best representation of Britain.

[@luxitos2867]

God I hope not. I always wanted to visit...

[@libertyvilleguy2903]

If I were in any leadership role, I would want Tommy Lascelles as my Chief of Staff. Not afraid to be a prick, unyielding in his ethics and morals, entirely unafraid to deliver an ass kicking to people when needed. And all within the very tight confines of proper British gentleman’s behavior. This actor was masterful.

[@puffin51]

This may or may not be close to what actually happened - we shall never know - but this scene should be shown to salespeople as a perfect example of how to manipulate a customer into buying. Lascelles, the character, manages the Queen, the character, perfectly. He assumes an air of careful neutrality while exploiting his exact understanding of her mind. She wants her sister to be happy; she was brought up and trained to be neutral. She is aware that she cannot actually forbid the marriage - her sister is not in line of succession. Yet Lascelles manipulates her into opposition by playing on her conventionality and Constitutional awareness. The insinuation of "the strait and Christian path" is masterly - he knows that the Queen takes her title "Defender of the Faith" seriously. The last line, delivered with such such apparent reluctance, "and these are just the natural ones" is crushing. It's done without actually giving advice or any appearance of advocacy; without showing his hand at all. The Queen is now opposed to the marriage, and almost certainly thinks she has come to that decision completely of her own volition. And whatever the fallout may be, Sir Alan (Tommy) Lascelles will be in no way held responsible for it. Humphrey Appleby would have applauded.

[@baranduyn]

Princess Margaret was in the line of succession, after her sister's children who were then young and obviously without children of their own. PM's children by A A-J are still in the line of succession, further down as Queen Elizabeth's children and grandchildren have their own kids. PM was told if she married Townshend she'd have to resign from the succession. She didn't. When this scene is set, PM was third in line.

[@puffin51]

@@baranduyn Perhaps I should have said "in the _direct_ line of succession". That is, short of the premature deaths of all of HM's children, they would not succeed to the throne. The point is, there were no formal legal grounds on which the marriage might be forbidden, as was the case with the marriage of Princess Margaret to Peter Townsend. He was a divorcee, like Wallis Simpson, and the remarriage of divorcees was not at the time recognised by the Church of England, to whose ordinances the Queen was bound by her Coronation Oath. The Queen actually had little choice but to accept, if not to approve, the marriage of her sister.

[@jasonkoch3182]

@@puffin51 The Royal Marriages Act, which is in effect at the point, prevented the marriage of *any* descendant of King George I without the approval of the reigning British monarch. The law was so poorly written that descendants from the line of George I's daughter were having to write to the queen for permission to marry. Elizabeth absolutely had to approve the marriage between Margaret and Armstrong-Jones and could have forbidden it on any grounds, just as she did when she forbade Margaret's marriage to Peter Townsend. This law was changed along with the rules regarding succession and male-preference primogeniture so that now only the top 6 individuals in the line of succession must seek approval from the reigning monarch to marry.

[@jasonkoch3182]

@Daniel Pizarro you missed some context. Tommy was retired in this scene. Michael Adeane had reached out to him to help advise on Anthony Armstrong-Jones. He returned in this scene at the request of Adeane.

[@Fisher9001]

There is also the fact that he indeed wasn't going to be faithful to Margaret at any point in their relationship. No need for manipulating the queen here.

[@rodrigodepierola]

The most indirect way in which he introduces the topic is fantastic.

[@Monomakh]

"Photography, I believe"!!!! This guy's wonderful.

[@dlxmarks]

Sir Alan Frederick "Tommy" Lascelles was of a peculiar British social class: close to being an aristocrat but not actually one. His paternal grandfather was the 4th Earl of Harewood and his first cousin, the 6th Earl, married George VI's sister and thus was uncle by marriage to Elizabeth II. Tommy in contrast was a commoner, an upper class one, but still a commoner. I don't know what the real Tommy was like but those types (the ones Princess Diana described as the "men in grey") are often the ones most fanatical about maintaining orthodoxy within the Royal system.

[@jonnnyren6245]

That awkward silence from Michael before Tommy gave him the all clear look is so funny it's like Michael is asking "sir, this is getting too awkward" and Tommy be like "don't worry Michael I got this."

[@poetcomic1]

I love to fantasize about Tommy Lascelles confronting Meghan Markle.

[@laraschauble]

Omg he would bury her and Harry...

[@khalidalali186]

His cousin was married to the Queen’s aunt. Mary, Princess Royal and Countess of Harewood that is.

[@maryvalentine9090]

Just bought his book, “King’s Counselor”. Looking forward to reading it. I got inspired from watching his performances in the crown. That man appeared to pull no punches.

[@ABC_DEF]

Tommy Lascelles would never have allowed Harry to marry a gold-digging divorced American soap actress. He'd have had her on the next plane back to Los Angeles and Harry imprisoned in a Scottish castle until he learned how to behave.

[@briancontreras9317]

Naturally, since Tommy was a racist.

[@ABC_DEF]

@@briancontreras9317 So you think he would have had no problem with a 100% white gold-digging divorced American soap actress?

[@cg8397]

​​@@briancontreras9317Nope, the divorced part would've been the red flag for Tommy. Finding out that she's also American would've given him PTSD flashbacks about Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson.

[@jjampong]

Pip Torrens is killing it in "The Crown"

[@plainbagel9192]

As the timeline progresses I find myself more and more convinced Lascelles was single handedly keeping the Monarchy afloat ...

[@isaiahpavia-cruz678]

Funny that he was first referenced by Prince Philip as being a dinosaur, and put him in a bad light in the show for me, but he quickly became one of my favorite characters

[@lordrobert12]

I could listen to Tommy speak forever!!🇬🇧🇷🇺

[@GeoValyy]

Tommy must be the best character in this series. He is my favourite for sure.

[@mcc271]

Tommy is the amazing second best that every boss needs! Experienced, appropriate, on point, responsible, resourceful, dare to challenge yet providing more solutions.

[@EV-wp1fj]

"These, we should add..." *pinwheel spinning* "..are just the natural ones."