Why Miraculous Will Have It's Own Civil War

[@maybe8985]

Adrien Villain arc is long overdue we deserve it, it would go so crazy.

[@floofiibliss]

Yesss! I think if he got the wish he’d destroy all the miraculous cuz it destroyed his family

[@Kittysuicoffee]

I agreed with this 100%

[@muichirotokito5624]

@@floofiibliss he would lose contact w plagg tho

[@Superheroes_rule]

Yeah tbh with how the characters are treating him in this show, I don't even blame him

[@Kris-w4w4h]

With miraculous writing it's just gonna be some corny emo era

[@dspace4514]

God i would love this. Legit, after everything is revealed, Ladybug cannot just be dismissed for her lie. This is a public figure!

[@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDooplivian]

Exactly!

[@nonzamemange7612]

​@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDooplivianShe lied to Adrien and then she lied to the entire city of Paris the people whom she had promised to keep them safe from the person who she's protect his secret oh the irony

[@rubenlohata5263]

@@nonzamemange7612 the whole world not just paris bro

[@nonzamemange7612]

@@rubenlohata5263 Thanks I forgot

[@rubenlohata5263]

@@nonzamemange7612 its ok man

[@TS-fe4jl]

The secrets that are being kept from each other, will cause soo much drama the next season 😭

[@True_Miraculer]

I posted the release date of season 6 episode 1 in my last video❤🎉

[@K41Teto41]

Hoorey! Drama!

[@prcervi]

truly a lovely change of pace from all the inane and pointless drama of the past seasons and maybe even rabbit girl will gt dragged back in to pay for her part in this whole snowballing disaster (cat blanc episode is still pretty solid backing for mari logic of not telling adrian shit, not that it ever really came up afterward)

[@proclarushtaonasat]

@@prcervi i just remembered, that during the timetagger fight, cat noir cataclysmd bunnyx miraculous "by accident", at the time, this seemed just to be more of adrien still being a dumbass in the future, but it could be retconnned into them having beef with each other.

[@setiell]

and I live for that drama 😊

[@suenicole8979]

Honestly, a fallout between Ladybug, Chat Noir, the heroes, Paris and the world due to the severe weight of Marinette's lie regarding Gabriel|Monarch is an inevitability at this point, and if Thomas or the writers were to so much as try to rug sweep this impending fallout like everything is fine in the name of giving Marinette some kind of plot armour, then it would just be bad writing for the entire show. The lie Marinette told isn't a harmless white lie, but a severely loaded lie that is now a ticking time bomb of consequence that with every day that passes with this lie going on, the bomb gets bigger increasing the potential blast radius and it's now counting down. Had Marinette told the truth in the beginning, people would have been mad yes, but they would have gotten over it sooner and accepted it much easier. However now, the outcome will be so much worse for everyone as Ladybug, a figure of justice and TRUTH, has essentially deceived her partner, her teammates, Paris and the World to conceal the identity of man who has caused inconceivable harm to the people, and what's worse is that she let these people who he harmed think that he was a hero. This isn't just deception, this is betrayal. Plus, Marinette has set the stage for Lila to easily sway people into believing that Ladybug is a traitor and that Lila, the new Hawkmoth, is telling the truth because basically, this time Lila is telling the truth, and the people who in a state of emotional distress over Ladybug's betrayal will believe Lila instead, and turn against Ladybug. What really brings the point home of how lethal this lie is, is that Nathalie and Kagami, two people who you would have expected to accept lie, actually implored Ladybug to tell the truth as nothing good would come from the lie. I would even say that Kagami's response is probably what Adrien's response would have been to the truth where although he loved his father, he can't excuse what Gabriel did, and he's gonna be mad about anything, he'd be more mad at the fact that he couldn't confront the man himself on how he abused and neglected him and terrorized Paris. Now, when Adrien finds out the truth, that sense of betrayal and resentment that he would have felt towards Gabriel, he'll now feel towards Ladybug as not only did Ladybug betray him but she actually let him honour and heroize a man who was an enemy and an abuser. This will severely damage the partnership where Chat Noir will either: *a)* Be cold and avoid Ladybug while maintaining a distant yet professional partnership in their work. *b)* Have a temporary anti-hero arc where he isn't on Ladybug's side but he isn't Lila's side but is certainly a more chaotic lone wolf with hos own plan in mind. *c)* Have a temporary mental break down and temporarily sides with Lila out of resentment and bitterness towards Ladybug but with his own agenda to wish to undo the damage Gabriel, Lila and Ladybug brought to his life. Really, for all of Chat Noir's constant support and optimism in Ladybug, I can't see him being optimistic in this situation. As for Adrien, he'll be an emotional wreck and there will definitely be a strain between him and Marinette where Marinette may try to defend or reason why Ladybug did what she did qhich will upset Adrien greatly and lead to them taking a break in their relationship. As for the heroes, with the probable exception of Luka and Alya, and the obvious exception of Alix, they won't take it very well and may start to question their trust in Ladybug. Alya and Su Han will definitely say that Marinette was incredibly foolish in letting her blind love for Adrien cloud her sound judgement and make an incredibly stupid decision. I'm sure Su Han may even feel tempted to remove Marinette from her role as Ladybug and Guardian but Alya won't let it get that far even if she's very disappointed in Marinette. I read in a story once a part where a character said that if you try to keep someone from getting the deserved bad karma then you will be the person to take on the karma in that person's place Since Ladybug|Marinette has prevented Gabriel's very name and memory from getting the backlash he deserved, she may end up getting that backlash in his place. So yeah, Ladybug has set the foundation for all of Paris and the world to inevitably turn against her or distrust her on the grounds of Lila and/or Tomoe's words that aren't lies.

[@abby-cadabby]

Well said 😎

[@proclarushtaonasat]

during the timetagger fight, future cat noir "accidentally" cataclysms the rabbit miraculous. at the time, this seemed to be due to future adrien still being a dumbass sometimes, but it could be retconned into them all having beef with each other.

[@nonzamemange7612]

The one thing we have learnt from history and from the current Era of the world and also from media is that people do not like being deceived or being fooled and because of Marinette and all her lies she has put herself were she can't undo it nor stop it true she can delay it but that won't stop someone else for snooping for for the truth and because of lila's plan not only will she lose Adrien her friends her family but she will also lose the trust of the Parisiennes because Gabriel is not here to face the repercussions of his actions Marinette will take that spot because of her dishonesty and covering up his crimes

[@Itsjustj82]

Nice one

[@mc-inversal7069]

Y'all, theres' this fic called Truth and Consequences, and it does this. FAR BETTER, than the series itself ever could.

[@the13thgoogler]

Rotating the Love Square again I see... Now it's the Hate Square.

[@DarkWarchieff]

I hope so, and this civil war shouldn't end up with a hugbox ''and then they all loved each other'' there should be a dirty, flawed resolution like real world revolution often end up in.

[@Matheus-ww6qj]

And if that happens, it could open the door to something I've been waiting for from this IP for a LONG TIME, in this case, a cosmic villain like Thanos. (Since in the UCM, after the civil war the heroes had to unite to try to stop the finger snaps, they failed but that's a detail)

[@rubenlohata5263]

Civil war type of season(avengers)

[@Matheus-ww6qj]

@@rubenlohata5263 I don't think they would give a whole season to this, a special like Miraculous World would be more possible.

[@CreativeStoryteller35]

I love this civil war idea. I've actually had these same thoughts, like the heroes choosing sides and the couples being on opposite sides. I hope this happens in S7. S6 could be the building blocks for the civil war.

[@mayotango1317]

It sounds great, but sadly we all know that the series evades great, logical ideas: Like Alya being Lila's natural enemy for being a reporter who seeks the truth, or Master Fu being a real mentor to Adrien and Marinette instead of separating them with his absurd rules, or Marinette working as an intern at Grabriel Agreste's fashion company. Let's be honest, if that by some miracle manages to happen, the plot will do its best to side with Marinette as the good girl who does everything right and make Adrien look like the wrong one and that he does not deserve to be Chat Noir. Heck, that already happened in season 4 when Ladybug constantly marginalized and belittled Chat Noir while replacing him with other heroes and in the end the simp still forgave her instead of telling her "we're done, I'm out". Another problem is that Ladybug as Guardian can easily take away their Miraculus if they turn against her, as happened with Chloe, not to mention they all barely have enough character or personality for me to care when they feel betrayed. Frankly I think all his friends will still be rooting/defend for Ladybug when the truth is revealed while Adrien is all alone.

[@rensike569]

That’s what I thought too, and I don’t even know if Adrien is gonna be mad at her, maybe at the start but then he’ll forgive her as usual. And like you said, even if they make Lila reveal the truth to the whole world nobody is going to blame ladybug for lying and I’m not even sure if Lila can cook up a plan to make that work since they’ll have to dumb her down because they won’t use the bunny miraculous every episode.

[@dizzyheads]

Oh man that would have been great especially Marinette being an intern Imagine respecting each other IRL but hating each other in super hero

[@wellidontknow1941]

Straight facts. London special did give me hope for painting marinette in the wrong for the first time, but miraculous have failed so many hopes by now no one should trust them on that. Hero team is also a laughable concept even by now: 90% of them are seriously underdeveloped and underused in the gran scheme of things - can not care less about them individually or what happens to their group dynamics

[@Mightymewing360]

In a weird way the way it’s describe it almost sounds like that what happened to Chloe in the story if this civil war of ladybug vs cat noir happens and will side with Ladybug even if she in the wrong

[@mayotango1317]

​@@Mightymewing360In "Miraculer" shows that Chloe would have been Ladybug's most loyal ally if Marinette not marginalized and patronized her in the whole season 3.

[@TheMajinHermit]

That's too interesting a concept for this series, if Chat Noir finds out he'll likely get over it in one episode, I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not holding my breath

[@Nadia-wd6nm]

I feel like Lila is the most likely to reveal Ladybug's lie, not only because it could parallel her first appearance when *Ladybug* exposed *her* lie, but I also don't think it would be clever of Tomoe to expose the truth if it meant exposing herself as Hawk Moth's accomplice Either way, I love the idea of the team being divided once the truth comes out and having an arc with Adrichat being angry at Ladybug for keeping the truth

[@toukei8398]

The funny thing is, there's a MLB fanfic from 2018 where Marinette found out Gabriel's identity, and Gabriel's desire to revive Adrian's mom, and then she decided to go with Gabriel's plan for Adrian's sake. LB was about to snatch the miraculous from CN but not surprisingly Chat refused. This is the start of their civil war. (Spoiler: LB lied about Chat to the world). At that moment, they still don't know each other's identity, but their civilian forms are dating each other. The fic also explored LB and Chat's superpowers. LMAO when I read this years ago, it's interesting, but I don't think Marinette would keep Hawkmoth's identity secret for Adrian. So, years later, I never expected THIS to become canon.

[@alexandra_6869]

do ya still have the link to that fanfic?? i´d like to see how much a 2018 fan predicted lol

[@abby-cadabby]

Perhaps said writer ended up working for Zag and pitched the idea forward 😂

[@Shimospeher]

Ahhh good fic anyway, IDK if there were continuity cuz I end at Gabe downfall but it was good one.

[@mc-inversal7069]

TRUTH AND CONSEQUENCES OH YEAH AND THE SEQUEL IS JUST AS GOOD

[@toukei8398]

@@Shimospeher There's a sequel! It's also as good as the first part

[@KayterinMaimay]

I think miraculous will, they planted the seeds so much in the London special and the finale

[@True_Miraculer]

I posted the release date of season 6

[@sliced_oranges.128]

​@@True_Miraculer Why are you everywhere lol 😂

[@staydetermined6717]

If ladybug is exposed, imagine Chloe’s reaction, maybe she’ll get true permanent character development

[@Lumine_TheFourthDescender]

if Thomas Astrucs is fired lmao

[@hunterrousseau3770]

​@@Lumine_TheFourthDescender God, I hopefully so here 🙏🤞

[@Kris-w4w4h]

Thomas made sure Chloe will never be redeemed there's literally no way to come back from what happened season 3,4, and 5.

[@hunterrousseau3770]

@@Kris-w4w4h And yet he should have no choice now here, she had lost everything after "Revolution" and has nothing forward to lose now here and feel nothing except silence remorse after Marinette made sure after the last time they spoke to each other that she is no longer her favorite victim anymore from now on here and will remember what she told her before breaking down into tears after that here now and will have no choice but to make amens for her actions to get all that back now here for 'em here

[@Kris-w4w4h]

@@hunterrousseau3770 Not really he could just make chloe a very minor character there's nothing stopping him from doing so she's already sent to New york Which means we won't see chloe as much anymore

[@Kayhero3045]

Viperion would be on Cat Noir’s side he all about Truth and stuff

[@joestella1843]

He’d be Black Widow where he changes sides when I all comes to ahead. He try to talk Marinette into divulging info only for him to change sides when she doesn’t listen.

[@Kris-w4w4h]

But like I'd really doubt he'd go against Marinette like this especially when he knows how much she had to sacrifice

[@mozzy2968]

Cat Noir vs Ladybug sounds like it would be amazing, except for the fact that its cannon that Ladybug is always able to easily defeat Cat Noir.

[@freddieadams8435]

I think their could be a cool power up would be that Adrien not being a naturally destructive heavily nerfs him, so when he turns he gains a massive power up.

[@Rosemary_bae]

I would like to see Cat Noir/Adrian went to the villainous path then sided with Cerise. I mean he has been treated by a useless sidekick, he never knows the truth of his father was a villain. EDIT: You must be thinking why would he side with Cerise, imagine she told him the truth about Gabriel was Hawk Moth and blamed Marinette for not telling him. He would probably break up with her

[@Starberry7]

Why would he side with Cerise? He hates her. Also we know for a fact that Cat Noir will stay a hero because of the future timeline. Sure he might get angry at Ladybug and there will likely be fighting between the 2 (maybe not physically but definitely verbally) but that will be all. He won’t suddenly switch sides. That would be totally out of character for him. Also by making him switch to the villain side you would ultimately give prove that Ladybug is right to not trust him. That would be terrible writing for the show.

[@MANOFACTION-jh4fz]

He could do it if Lila is able to convince some of the heroes that ladybug is in the wrong or has some kind of malicious intent or is simply misguided Or appeals, to emotional vulnerabilities

[@True_Miraculer]

I posted the season 6 release date in my last video❤🎉

[@IsmaelCiulla]

@@Starberry7 he hates Lila not Cerise. In Adrien’s mind (at least that I’m aware of) he hasn’t ‘met’ Cerise so even if he does encounter Lila’s new identity it would be like meeting a new person

[@Luvxsharon]

​@@IsmaelCiulla​but cereiese would want to destroy marinette, and if marinette finds out that it is lila or gets suspicious maybe she would tell adrien and adrien would most likely trust marinette or marinette might try to prove to adrien (maybe)

[@oceanangel2896]

Love the video, but I actually think while Adrien would be leading the opposition, Kagami and Felix would be his hypemen. I think Felix is prolly gonna end up being even more passionate about exposing Gabriel considering how Felix talks about his own father. (And it’s not like he and Ladybug are friends, he has no reason to stick by her) He’s the last person who’d allow Gabriel to rest peacefully. I think he might even insight unrest like a good anti-hero. I’d label Adrien’s side as Chat Noir, Argos, Ryuko, Carapace, Pegasus, Polymouse, Minotaurox, and Miss Hound I added Pegasus, Polymouse and Minotaurox here because I honestly think Max is way too smart to just blindly believe Ladybug. I think his logic would tell him that Ladybug needs to be depowered if she’s going to lie to the public. I also think Mylene and Ivan feel strongly about people in positions of power (Like it or not, Ladybug is an unelected authority) considering they’re politically active protestors and I feel like Mylene especially would feel EXTREMELY betrayed, and I feel like Ivan would feel similarly. As for Sabrina, I could see her going either way but honestly, I think she’s prolly a weeny bit traumatized after being forced to lie and cheat so many times by Chloe that she wouldn’t respond well to anyone lying to her. And her dad’s a cop, so like, justice or smth. I think Nino would definitely side with Chat Noir is he figures out that Chat is Adrien. Otherwise, I could see it going either way. And Marinette’s team as Ladybug, Rena Rouge, Vesperia, Pigella, Purple Tigress, Rooster Bold, Caprikid, and King Monkey Alya would feel betrayed but I don’t think she’d ever ditch Mari, and I feel like Zoè would understand what Ladybug did, as she knows how painful it is to lie and act all the time. I think Rose would see how Ladybug just wanted Adrien to be happy, and I feel like she’d be an ignorance is bliss truther, and I don’t see Juleka leaving her side. I do think she’d be an opposing voice within team LB. I think Marc and Nath are just so clearly Ladybug fanboys that they would follow her to the ends of the earth. And as for Kim, I think he’s honestly so fricken dumb that he would either be Chaotic neutral or just follow ladybug because she’s the one who allows him to have fun as a hero. I’d put Viperion (and maybeeee Juleka and Rose could go here too) as the middle men who can’t pick, which Luka ultimately being the therapist/mediator who ends the conflict. Bunnyx would just watch it all while eating a tub of popcorn.

[@lenastorm6280]

This! This is amazing! I need a fanfic about this yesterday. I realy hope that next season is gonna be like this.

[@Luvxsharon]

The writers are probably too lazy, but if they stopped being lazy next year, this will probably happen, and I am super excited for it!

[@Keith_Norman]

True and I don't think Thomas will allow his precious little angel to be in a civil war

[@Luvxsharon]

@Keith_Norman yea 😭

[@hunterrousseau3770]

​@@Keith_Norman Unless you're someone like Jeremy Zag with more sense really here perhaps maybe here

[@Keith_Norman]

@@hunterrousseau3770 I would say he needs to finish his other shows before he even considers a civil war but if this was going to happen they would need to fire Thomas

[@hunterrousseau3770]

@@Keith_Norman Agreed 💯

[@NessaTheBat1]

I hope Ladybug tells Chat Noir the truth. She has no reason to not tell him. Also when she lost all the other miracolous she learned that she should trust Chat Noir more. Would make sense at least. Also it would create some interesting conflict.

[@Shimospeher]

yea to be honest that's reasonable, I don't see a reason why LB should not tell Chat truth, she don't knew he's Adi and this will be a easy and good way to made drama in S6, cuz Adi would have hard time play "it's okay" with Mari and "why he's so upset" to LB.

[@IsmaelCiulla]

I like the idea but I would add it where Adrienette breaks up after Adrien finds out from Marinette that she is ladybug. She wouldn’t say it outright but Marinette would try to defend Ladybug aka herself and Adrien questions Marinette why she would defend Ladybug and after some stuttering and barely saying anything Adrien would put two and two together and figure out that Marinette is ladybug. Adrien would be furious and storm off only to return a later time as Cat Noir and confront ladybug with the revelation of her identity. Adrien would look furious at ladybug at the betrayal and finally have at it with Ladybug. At first Marinette wouldn’t know what Cat Noir was talking about so she would try to calm him down to no avail till Adrien decides to just reveal the truth that he knows that she lied to him about Monarch and he reveals to Ladybug that Adrien is Cat Noir. Marinette is shocked of course and tries to comfort him but to no avail and Cat Noir storms off and vows to himself that he’s done with lies and done with Ladybug/Marinette and everything with being a superhero. In turn Adrien decides to become an antihero that does his own thing doing what he thinks is best and all of the other superheroes try to stop him but he’s had enough so slowly a couple heroes, ex villains and former miraculous holders like Chloe, Kagami and Nino team up to take down Ladybug. While that’s going on Lila could be pulling the strings from the sidelines and turning the civilians against the heroes by showing them the damage the heroes are doing and akumatizing people to fight against the heroes. Adrien sees what’s going on and decides on a temporary truce with Marinette to take down Lila and tells Marinette that this is only temporary. After the team up Adrien decides to permanently quit being Cat Noir and gives back the ring to Marinette and tells her and everyone else to not bother him again due to all the mistrust Marinette has given him over the years/seasons and walks away never to be seen again.

[@cjgamer6356]

That could explain the new Cat Noir

[@kingpin1498]

My idea for a civil war team up: Alya/Rena Rouge and Felix/Argos stick with Ladybug, and Nino/Carapace and Kagami/Ryuko would go with Chat Noir. Rose/Pigella would be on Ladybug’s team. Though she just wants everyone to get along and go back to being teammates, she doesn’t understand that it can’t work that way. Juleka/Purple Tigress on Chat Noir’s team. Juleka seems to have problems speaking up when she thinks something is wrong, but as Purple Tigress, she’s a lot more forward and willing to express anger. Ivan/Minatoroux would be with Ladybug and Mylene/Polymouse with Chat Noir. Nathaniel/Caprikid sticks with Ladybug due to his hero worship of her, but Marc/Rooster Bold goes with Chat Noir. Kim/King Monkey and Max/Pegasus aren’t really a couple (outside of fanfics) but they are close friends, so I propose we split them up too- Kim with Chat Noir and Max with Ladybug. Zoe/Vesperia would stick with Ladybug, but Sabrina/Miss Hound, who knows how it feels to be betrayed by a friend, would go with Chat Noir. Alix/Bunnyx and Luka/Viperion I believe would be a neutral party, but if I had to place them on a team, I’d say Alix with Ladybug and Luka with Chat Noir, since he values the truth so much.

[@WavelengthsOfFun]

time miraculouses would be probably neutral since it can hella bad if they get invovled

[@Langkajowa]

​​@@WavelengthsOfFun + They'll form some sort of alliance of knowing the problem and solve it somehow, it makes sense since bunnix has burrow, and whenever they stumble into a problem vipereon would use his power.. Im intrigued now lol

[@RonnieSoakers]

The idea of an episode focusing on team Chat trying to take down the villain of the week without causing any property damage so that they won't need Ladybug has me on board with this plan.

[@iscoolerthenU]

OHHHH I LIKE THAT IDEA

[@iscoolerthenU]

And then they make it feel like that ladybugs team is more dangerous considering they'll break stuff to their desires to defeat villians. Sure it'll be fix by the end but the people of Paris will see it as chat's team being more of 'heros'

[@mayotango1317]

I feel like the episodes "Chameleon" and "Ladybug" have foreshadowed what's going to happen in season 6: Lila/Iris will turn everyone against Marinette/Ladybug and she will be easily doomed, Adrien will downplay that and have a conversation alone with Lila/Iris, but this time I think it's time for Marinette to be Akumatized. Think about it, at this point the girl can't take it anymore and is on the verge of a nervous breakdown (again from the season 4 finale), her control freak tendencies are already out of control as she practically controls Adrien's life (we even see her spying on him with binoculars), no doubt she would be a more dangerous akuma than Chat Blanc.

[@alexandruulesan7009]

#teamchat If he's gonna be akumatized for this, I hope it'd be like Chloe at the end, where it didn't show she was Luke siding against Ladybug would be the ultimate gut punch

[@lasseehrenreich5502]

It's an interesting idea that could have fantastic writing, so of course it probably won't happen in this series but maybe one day you will become a writer

[@eddog6666]

I think we will have a civil war because of this line in the London special: “ Lying to him or tell him the truth will lead to very different consequences with their share of both happy and sad moments. The important thing is that you own up for your mistakes and how you overcome the challenges.” This line seems like it is a hint towards a team miraculous fight. Ladybug team would be Rena, vesperia, Juleka, argos, and miss hound. Chat noir’s would be Carapace, Ryouko, vipreon, Pigella, ( whatever Mylene hero name was. The rest would be equally divided but bunnix can’t be part of it

[@mayotango1317]

Sorry, but I can't imagine any of them allying with Chat Noir. Surely they'll all follow Ladybug around like the mindless lapdogs they've always been.

[@muichirotokito5624]

@@mayotango1317 It would be out of character for some of them to blindly follow ladybug. Examples of these are Vipereon and how he always strives to find the truth. However, I do agree that vesperia, juleka, pigella and mylene r all sheep that would follow her lol.

[@mayotango1317]

@muichirotokito5624 Tell me, except for Queen Bee and Chat Noir, is there anyone else who questions or challenges the Ladybug/Marinette criteria?

[@muichirotokito5624]

​@@mayotango1317 No I completely agree with you on the fact that they mindlessly follow Ladybug except Viperieon. It would be out of character for him to support her in this scenario

[@mayotango1317]

@muichirotokito5624 And wasn't it out of character that in the London special suddenly Kagami wants to defend her obviously abusive mother? It seems to contradict with the Kagami we saw in seasons 4 and 5.

[@Nathan-fo4ux]

I have no faith that anything too interesting will happen in the seasons to come. They refuse to let Adrian lead in any plot. I believe we are going to have more of fake out episodes where they just undo everything by the end of the episode. I also believe that they will try to convince the audience that Marinette was right all along.

[@Shimospeher]

Interesting things to happend propably not in S6, Adrianette only start and they won't break it, they won't also loose Lila just after one season, which to be honest would be a good way for some other interesting villain and good twist anyway.

[@Canadian_4Ever]

Gotta appreciate that this video is 11:11 minutes long and it was 11 hours ago

[@ArjunSingh-m2v5x]

😂 👍🏻

[@nycprtybuai]

I actually haven't watched the london special(my bad), but I actually think it makes more sense for felix and kagami, to be on the same side as adrien. Deep down felix loves adrien and only told marinette, as he still thought adrien could also be wrestled into submission by gabe. Now seeing how adrien has full control over himself(I think), ladybug not telling him would not be in his best interest, leading to both him and kagami being on the same side. Heck maybe even bring anti-hero felix back trying to act as a mediator and leaning towards adrien but being told off by both for not deciding and him taking the lead on some missions to stop them from arguing.

[@oceanangel2896]

So true

[@Shimospeher]

Yea I can't see why Felix would not join Adrien if anything happend, Kagami too.

[@nycprtybuai]

@@Shimospeher If they make him side with marinette, I'll be pissed. He needs to go with adrien. But I can accept an anti hero felix where he flip flops sides to suit his end goal which is to protect adrien.

[@_friedtofu]

Oh this is definitely an interesting direction for season 6!! I just hope the writers have the actual guts to make these plot lines cuz they have tendencies to just go down the easy route or just completely abandon character arcs lol.

[@DUDEBRUHMICE]

I cool plot point that could happen in season 6, is that Ladybug tells Chat Noir that Gabe was Monarch, not knowing that Chat’s Adrien, and that’s how Adrien learns about Gabe

[@manotimagati2390]

3:29 the lip sync was incredible

[@NiteStrike]

Cat noir becoming a tragic villain sounds kinda cool for a civil war season

[@sofia7816]

AS much as seeing Cat Noir and Ladybug go against each other. GOOD, after all this bs and still being lied to Adrien is bound to go crazy when he learns the truth. Which he deserves to learn the whole truth. Especially that Marinette didn’t think he was strong enough to handle it and gaslight the world to paint Gabe as some hero. I support Cat Noir beat her ass a little.

[@jedemu]

Something to add to your idea: Since Nathalie also knows the full truth, it would give her the opportunity to grow as well. Maybe she can support Adrien and help him deal with the truth once Ladybug is exposed. Maybe let Nathalie tell Adrien part of the truth (that he's a sentimonster and that Emily was the user of the Peacock Miraculous) without Ladybug knowing it

[@ItsJae_37]

what makes me so mad is that adrien still doesn't know he's a senti... like he doesn't know his LIFE is literally in the rings he wears and that really dangerous

[@Shimospeher]

well Nathalie tell Adi truth at some point is more rational for me than LB cuz Nathalie practically act as his stepmom.

[@creflot]

I think another aspect worth considering would be how having to keep secrets from those closest to you would affect Marinette's sense of morality. We've seen her Teeter on the edge of self-righteousness, egotism, and controlling behaviour before. What if this Civil War was the inciting incident that led to her fully embracing those aspects of her personality? Instead of coming to her senses and apologising, she instead chooses to double down when faced with significant push back, thus beginning her villain arc.

[@somehelluvafanboy8357]

I'll call it out (38 seconds in): when Cat finds that out, and ditches Ladybug, she will be akumatized out of sadness and guilt. Her goal? Take the miraculouses, and wish Gabriel and Emilie back, in exchange of herself. That or Adrien will become Chat Blanc again, whichever the writers feel more ballsy about, but I feel like it's about damn time we see an Akumatized Ladybug. Lady Ubiquity doesn't count, she was Kamikofied

[@AimFlash2506]

They really need to hire u as a writer the offers this man is chilling up might actually save this show

[@Johanjannes]

Creation holder vs destruction holder this is going to be a really loud fight

[@StillWaitingForAMiracle]

All these ideas sound perfect! And conclusive. This show needs something like this - some pep in the step! But I have deja-vu. We had so much hopes and story ideas from the given hints for s4 and then again for s5… And? Nothing really changed. Well, something changed - Adrien/CN became even less important. At this point I fear, that his role will be only as Mari’s boyfriend. I’m really afraid to hope for some changes for the better…. We were shown again and again, that Marinette plays the main fiddle and her girl power is the only thing that matters.

[@Shimospeher]

Propably will be, be honest after S3 it's mostly about Mari, Adi/Chat is total sidekick now, the fact that he was not in finale and current special means something. The writers constant and constant show that they had older audience in ass and every good possible go into ash. To be honest all specials except last could be treat as nothing more than fillers cuz they do nothing serious to the plot, and the fact that characters from there show in show means nothing cuz actions from there have no consequences. Hawky shot nuke and act as Yuri from RA and nothing? Damn the writers were totally lazy and the talk that "it's kid show" is some crap, I belive even MLP 4 gen had less plot holes.

[@SBGamezSB]

Ooo this actually sounds like something that might happen! I’d like to see that in all fairness 😂

[@skullthefan8914]

I've been thinking something, what if Marinette as Ladybug told Cat Noir the truth to know his opinion? that too could be how adrien learns it

[@Deka-Kaizer]

If there is going to be a civil war in the show, I hope Cat Noir gets a suit upgrade. Maybe a Wolverine-styled one?

[@trolledfordrip]

i could see cat noir heading down 2 paths for this one is this timelines version of blanc the other is him nearly killing another miraculous holder and using unify with the miraculous

[@Murdockchern]

I would like for how the Civil War to start is if they figure out each other’s identity’s and Adrien would find out that Mari(Ladybug) Nat, Kagami, and Felix have been lying to him about his father And Lila teams up with Adrien and gets her own team of villains and that’s how the civil war will start

[@IllusionQueen4Eva]

Pretty common for lovers to get into arguments and hurt each other and ultimately end up together again, like in dramas. But yeah, since it took five years for them to get together, probably wouldn't be a good idea, even though I would love the drama.

[@electrobob992]

Though I will agree with the Civil War theory, considering she is adding something to the miraculous to help them from being stolen again. My theory: Only the approved Holder can use them, and that doesn't include if they are akumatized. I.e If they are akumatized they detransform. But she forgets to add a TRACKING feature. Then Lila will find this out early on, and then strive to convince each of the heroes to join her side. Obviously succeeding on half. Obviously the dumbest ones first sadly. But some expected ones. Like Alya for example, who will still keep her secret BUT sides with Lila. While some wouldn't believe her, such as Felix, Kagami, and Luka. The former two because Felix is good at reading her lies, and Luka.. Because of him knowing her secret identity. Then in the DARK timeline, Adrien finds out, gets akumatized, destroys the universe not just earth... OR big crazy moment... Destroys the actual timeline where this happened. Unknown to everyone... Adrien retains the memories of the event, instead of marinette. And as a result would try to get marinette to reveal things herself, and when she doesn't just breaks them up. Sadly Astruc kinda confirmed in the show in Cat Blanc that their relationship is up and down. They will most likely break up and come back together repeatedly.

[@jules6735]

Miraculous Injustice, "we are totally 100% not ripping off DC" All joking aside, something like this would be INSANELY GOOD. The miraculous team divided between LB and CN, Lila or whatever she's going by now acting like Injustice WW and feeding Adrien/CN's anger, some Damian-style "betrayals" Mari didn't see coming (Luka perhaps?), and maybe a plot thread involving Natalie 'betraying' Adrien's trust? (I can't think of an Injustice Reference for her). This story is writing itself. But which side will everyone be on? Will allies from around the world/alternate universes appear? My theories below (I tried to keep relationships, besties (other than the ones Smarty mentioned), and siblings separate for ~drama~) On Ladybug's side: 1) Alya/Rena Rouge 2) Felix/Argos 3) Juleka/Purple Tigress 4) Ivan/Minotaurox 5) Nathaniel/Caprikid 6) Sabrina/Miss Hound 7) Zoe/Vesperia 8) Max/Pegasus(?) On Cat Noir's Side: 1) Nino/Carapace 2) Kagami/Ryuko 3) Luka/Viperion 4) Rose/Pigella 5) Myelene /Polymouse 6) Marc/Rooster Bold 7) Kim/King Monkey(?) 8) Wayhem who Adrien should definitely not have around because he gives off creepy stalker vibes Meanwhile Alix is in her burrow and Su Han is about to have a str0ke

[@mayotango1317]

Sorry, but I can't imagine any of them allying with Chat Noir. Surely they'll all follow Ladybug around like the mindless lapdogs they've always been.

[@jules6735]

@mayotango1317 lol😂 I can see that for the majority of them now that you point it out, but I feel like some (especially Luka) will get this “why wouldn’t you trust us with the truth?” mentality. Kagami has already been outspoken about how it’s a bad idea, so it might not be a stretch to say some of the more innocent characters will be upset by LB’s actions

[@mayotango1317]

@jules6735 And for some reason, in the London special, Kagami is written as she was in season two instead of the impulsive rebel she was in season five.

[@XaranAlamas]

What I am REALLY worried about is that Marinette didn't even tell ALYA. Sure, she has Alix as a friend who knows the truth, but Alix isn't always around, Alya is. But she didn't tell Alya about Monarch. I feel like that will come back to bite Marinette. To be honest the most shocking side choosing in a schism would be for Alya to not side with Marinette. I doubt that would happen, but it might. I've gotta be honest, though, I don't care if they break Marinette and Adrien up lol, the love square is the least interesting part of the show for me, and I find Zoénette far more compelling. Either way though, I look forward to the future of Miraculous and I'm sure I'll love it either way :)

[@ItsJae_37]

zoenette isnt even a thing tho..

[@Mightymewing360]

Why Zoénette though there really isn’t anything compelling about them beside Soe random crush on Marinette and this being another crush Marinette has (Nathaniel, Luka, Nino that one time) so Zoe crush means nothing I would think Zoe x Sabrina would be more interesting than Zoénette

[@XaranAlamas]

@Mightymewing360 I could say the same about Love Square. For me, there is nothing compelling about them. Zoé and Marinette, on the other hand, are adorable together from day one, with clear love at first sight for Zoé in Sole Crusher, lots of little moments any time they interact, and just the entirety of Adoration before the bolted on Adrinette confession. I also don't find the whole spouting gibberish thing Marinette has with Adrien to be at all charming, and much prefer the way Marinette is able to talk at length with Zoé. Zoé and Sabrina at this point WOULD be random with them having barely interacted in the show.

[@XaranAlamas]

@ItsJae_37 It is on Zoé's side, and Marinette never said she couldn't reciprocate. It could just be bad timing as, at the time, Marinette was with Adrien. Edit: And besides, it is as much a thing as Adrinette was for 4 and a bit seasons of the show where Marinette had a crush on Adrien which Adrien (as Adrien) did not reciprocate to Marinette (as Marinette) because he was ignorant of her feelings

[@shacharlem4424]

If it were up to me, I would have cat noir getting soul evans'd and gain a dark entity in his mind, with that same dark entity telling him all of those secrets and discouraging Adrien from hanging out with his friends because according to the entity, they're fake untrustworthy liars who only care about Adrien having fun and being happy, and that true friendships have others getting hurt is actually an important part of friendship as it makes you stronger. Appearance-wise, I'd want the entity to look part ink demon (Bendy and the dark revival) part room (_boisvert).

[@CallMeSaltyScorpion]

Personally I think the two sides of supposed Schism would be The Truth- Adrien because obvious, Nino because he's not big on the secrets in general anyways also his best friend, Max because he's the smart pragmatic type, Kagami knows already, Mylene seems like the type to hate liars same with Juleka and Sabrina. The Lie- Marinette, Alya because she supports her girl and also symbolism cause shes the fox, Zoe cant think for herself, Luka has always believed in the secret keeping with identitys so this is no diff to him, Rose(?) The others have no side because we gotta make even more parralels.

[@Sqweezr10-27]

I’ve thought about a lot of ideas for the future of Miraculous, but oh wow, a civil war was NOT one of them. Holy cow, that’s such a great idea. If a civil war will happen at one point, it should either be its own season, OR an hour long special. Also to me, I think it should happen at a more later time in the future seasons, like around Season 7 or 8.

[@BlackParasite5]

I like the idea, although I think it would be better if Catnoir doesn’t get akuma(something) for the third time

[@miraculoushero-k6h]

To answer your last question at the end of the viddeo, Imma just scrap it and make it in a serious tone lol. Hear me out, End of Season 6 ends with someone revealing the truth about Gabriel Agreste, Beginning - Middle of Season 7, we see Cat Noir/Adrien slowly depart from Ladybug at the point where he somehow discovers ALL the secrets and things Marinette has hidden from him, and HIM taking a more realistic and logical look at her obsession and hypocrisy, and the Civil War happens after Adriens reveals his identity to the rest of the heroes and explains everything, and everyone chooses a side, long story short, by the end of the season, there is a big argument that turns into a fight when in the end, Adrien leaves Paris and start a new life...start....a NEW SHOW...a spin-off Cat Noir centered show, and have Season 8 drastically change, with another supporting character, most likely Alya, filling the 2ndary protagonist role, that way, Thomas Astruc and his weirdos can have their UTOPIA show come to life, and Jeremy Zag or whoever will be in charge of the Cat Noir show, take a more serious tone on the plot and writting, and make a GOOD show. I miss the old late 2000s, early 2010s TV Shows, the ones I GREW UP with, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2012, a mix of both younger and older audience centered show, Teen Titans, DC Animated Movies and TV Shows, Avatar series, Anime Shonen, Ben 10 from Classic all the way to Omniverse, Transformers Prime TV Show, Early Ninjago, and many more, those kind of tone. if not that, then atleast after Miraculous is done, have somedoy do a Spin-off Anime version of Reboot, without Western Woke Writers.

[@111CatN0IR]

What a clawsome way to frame it!

[@Jagged-Dust-Jacket]

No cause why do I LOVE this.

[@ItsJae_37]

i dont think this would ever happen, but cool idea

[@miraculoushero-k6h]

@@ItsJae_37 it could easly happen, or just a random guy creates a Comic Series about it, AT THE VERY LEAST.

[@joestella1843]

Team Cat Noir. Give him his “He killed my mom” moment where he completely loses it and kicks ass. He also needs to be told what he is. Until then, he is just a doll.

[@wintersoldier164]

personally i thought the idea of having evil charms be interesting. like charms that are corrupting you, like the one ring, or the symbiote

[@cheyennecedeno6867]

Beautiful and true potential. . . But as much in Miraculous it won't be used, done justifiably or worse made to make Marinette the righteous party and STILL REWARD HER WITH KAGAMI'S ADRIEN!! As always Smarty love your Miraculous videos. No matter how I'm feeling, they never to get me smiling. Adrigami and Lukanette always!! 💕🔥💕🔥💕🔥💕🌸🌸 Everyone have a blessed Monday November 4, 2024 at 9:01AM. 🔥🌸🔥🌸

[@Argosentral-88]

Maybe we get to see the fabled Chat Noir Vigilante arc, also I think Felix is by far the most interesting person to try place on one hand he doesn’t want Adrien to get hurt so Ladybug, on the other if he had the evidence I think he’d have dropped the bomb himself so maybe Chat Noir

[@tinamobley1833]

I 100% love this idea!!!

[@Enola_Evil]

I know this is a hot take but I kinda want them to go down the path of “you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain” similar to Shadowbug becoming a hero maybe Mari will become the villain now that she has made this decision, maybe her obsessive behaviour will cause her to spiral and go to extreme lengths to keep the secret hidden from Adrien. I want Adrien to find out that hawkmoth was his father after investigating maybe Mari left loose ends or Lila tells him or even Nathalie telling him eventually. I think that if he approaches her and asks for the truth and she continues to lie and he sees her trying to cover up the lie even further and starts battling against him as Cat noir as he says as Cat noir she needs to tell Adrien the truth and he baits her with pretending to go telling himself and such trying to force her to stop lying which might lead to the reveal and have Mari and Adrien discover their alter egos which will lead to fighting between them in civilian form and be a separation but not a break up exactly as in this situation Adrien tells her “I get why you did what you did, but, you didn’t even give me the choice to decide how we handled this situation…. You said we were a team…. Not only did you hide such a big truth from me Marionette, but when I found out you tried to continue the lie, I gave you so many chances to tell me the truth and instead of being honest you started becoming just like him…. I need time to think” and then he leaves and Marionette being dramatic does her usual defeated flop. Then it’s more focused on Adrien doing superhero tasks kinda like Mark from invincible just helping with everyday tasks or petty crimes and returning to school and such……an invincible ark would be super cool….. and I think it would put strain on even Alya’s and Mari’s relationship as Nino and Adrien avoiding Mari for a bit would put Alya in an uncomfortable position…. It’ll eventually resolve due to happy endings being good but I think some angst for a few episodes would be really necessary to a point Mari is just avoided by everyone given sympathetic support by alya but from a distance…. Could even lead into Chloe returning and becoming Mari’s friend as they’re both shunned which it’d be kinda funny if Chloe ends up helping Mari to repair things with Adrien and the others because her reason for bullying Mari was simply “I was jealous you had everything I wanted, a supportive family, genuine friends, you’re smart, but seeing you like this makes even me pity you….and I hate seeing Adrien look like a that” so they start hanging out and showing that they’re very similar in how obsessive and controlling they both are which could bring back queen bee as well as the Chloe/Mari teamwork which was fun from season 2 and 3 before Chloe got nuked in character development…… anyway this storyline would really bring back a lot of fans and stay true to the setup they have foreshadowed

[@ItsJae_37]

It would be SO FUN to see team catnoir vs team ladybug!!! THIS BETTER HAPPEN. I'm also really interested to see how ladybug will gain the publics trust back after the truth comes out

[@ArtisticBishoujo]

Marinette made me hate her so much for not tell the truth season 6 will be wildfire but at the same time kinda interesting 😅😅

[@staydetermined6717]

I mean the specials are brought up again the new characters it’s shown And considering the Paris special, definitely gunna see betterfly and such again :)

[@Coroplocs-Chameleon]

I have no clue what’s going on anymore. I left after that train wreck season 5 finale

[@fatimamir2006]

My theory, Tomao does not change and Kagami and Ladybug bring her to justice where she reveals the truth Cat Noir becomes suspicious and almost gets akumatized since he has no evidence of it he rejects the akuma but then he finds evidence somehow and gets akumatized and his motives are clearly told to be just like SAFARI showing that he is just emotional. He shows the whole world the truth with proof when he gets de-akumtized he gives up his miraculous due to anger and the feeling to being lied to, being betrayed and have his trust broken he is also disappointed that after all this Ladybug does not trust him. He does not know the full truth and he is being manipulated by Lila and thinks Ladybug is the cause of his father's death and is angry with her even though he knows his father was the monarch. He and Marinette are depressed due to this and Adrien goes to Marinette house where she is almost akumatized here he learns her identity and momentarily forgives her and helps her in de-akumatizing herself after that plag who angry on Adrien talks to him in front of Mari due to this she learns his identity there and she with help of bunnix tell him the whole truth then they explain the situation to the other superheroes and try to get them on their side after that they fight the villains the holder that does not trust her just come to fight to defeat the villain and the media no longer trusts her. Ladybug tells Cat Noir everything from what happened in the season 5 finale to his akumatization Adrien kind of forgives her but their relationship remains slightly bitter until their final battle with Lila or with an akumatized villain where Ladybug almost sacrifices herself to save Cat Noir. I also love your theory.

[@beatricezanoni5582]

You mean... marinette's actions will have consequences?? And shes gonna face them??? No way

[@CerisMoonlight]

There is going to be some Felix and Nathalie tension and I feel like Felix is going to tell Adrien the truth somehow and side with him while Nathalie is going to side with ladybug. And Felix and Kagami that's gonna create tension because of Kagami's mom.

[@electrobob992]

Sadly I doubt Astruc will have her tell the truth to Adrien, except in those Dark Timelines where time gets reversed. She will keep lying to him, until she decides to just break up with him and end up either alone... OR someone else.. Like Chloe's half Sister for example, or Alya if she and nino break up.

[@Juccie_edits]

Ladybug, argos, viperon and rena vs cat noir, ryoko, bunix and carapace would be so hype

[@sophie4517]

i personally think the london special opened up soooo many possibilities and i rlly hope they take the route and use their disapproval of marinettes decision to lie to the whole world as foreshadowing for whats to come. i think adrien HAS to find out in the near future, it’s just too big of a secret to keep alongside all the others, their relationship would just be so strained. plus everything w him being a sentimonster etc. they NEED to pull the trigger soon and honestly i would love to see a lovers to enemies

[@kat42266]

I think the truth , will be revealed sooner then we think. At this point the amount of episodes of season 6 should extend

[@kat42266]

Make season 6 a three part , of the aftermath of the truth. Ladybug will take the blame for Natalie , as marinette wouldn’t want Adrien left without a mother. Season 7 , cat noir hiding his room , after ladybug accepts her consequences. The relationship is broken , but it will be repaired slowly , for both him , Paris , and the other heroes.

[@StillSaber]

I don't think so, because remember the episode 'Timetaggered' we know that Ladybug and Cat Noir are still together in they are 25 because in the London Special we found out how Bunnix/Alix is during that special, so that's how know that nothing is going to happen between them.

[@MissJJoan]

It’s a great idea! I remember in the first couple of seasons, the show had conflict in the civilian personas on top of the superhero conflict, making it more interesting. In the more recent season the conflict was “how to get Marinette to like Adrien again”, and then “Gabe vs Mari in terms of her relationship with Adrien,” which to me was so dull and predictable. This civil war thing could definitely spice things up, if they choose to go that route, which remains to be seen. Also it would be neat if Zoe was actually some kind of spy bot from the future. Just my 50c.

[@federicofranco6419]

If the teams split, plot twist, Alya will not be on Marinette’s side because she’ll have lied to her as well and she will be PISSED.

[@swankyfyn]

omg i would love to see all the couples split between team bug and team cat. alya vs nino, juleka vs rose, nathaniel vs marc, mylene vs ivan, kagami vs felix, and then whatever side zoe, alix, kim, sabrina, luka, and max fall under. i don’t usually like angst but i would die for that type of angst to happen omg omg omg

[@notyouraveragemiddleschooler]

this idea is great, and i think it sets up the stage for a reveal as all the resulting drama dies down

[@StrikeCrossoverNexus]

that would be way to cool for this show.

[@hezelia]

If the Civil War ever happened. What would Cerise do? That would be interesting to see.

[@-izzFizz-]

This is one of the only scenerios i can see happening, so if they do something different, i will be intrigued

[@doomdogdog]

Who would go with who though? I think other than the ones in the video, the Adrien side consists of: Mylene (wants to face fears and stuff), Marc (because I think Nathaniel would for thematic reasons go with Marinette, and we need to split them up), Kim (Kim is awesome and would go on the objectively correct side) Luca (his whole thing is emotions and stuff) Alix (seemed to be against her in the London Special) And Juleka (would go with her brother) Everyone else would go with Marinette: Vesperia (gay) Max (he would think her reasoning was logical) Rose (wants to make people happy and is ok with lying) Ivan (wants to protect people) Nathaniel (thematic purpose with the introduction to his character being his crush on Marinette) And Sabrina (had to make the teams even)

[@angelswan6259]

Absolutely love this idea.

[@mockersjayparker813]

If they boot Thomas Astruc from the writing team, then this would be one of the best arcs in the series.

[@mollieadele]

Okay when are you going to start an Ao3 account Smarty Pants? The producers are missing you in the writing room.

[@KingdomofEvania100]

Ladybug should tell Adrien who his father was. Adrien would be a better person, knowing he could bring honor back to the Agreste name. Ladybug is not that trustworthy. She knows the identities of all the heroes except Cat Noir and doesn't trust them to know hers. Trust is a two way street, and Ladybug hiding her identity is a big red flag. Also, can we acknowledge that the authorities in this world are useless? these are the organizations that should have a arrest warrant for Monarch along with a $10 million bounty: Interpol MI5 FBI DGSI (the French FBI) MSS (China's FBI and CIA) Paris PD NYPD Shanghai PD London PD Tomoe should also face some time for aiding a terrorist.

[@Shimospeher]

Well maybe not tell Adrien cuz she's afraid how he react... but tell whole truth to Chat Noir? Why not, he's after all from beggining in this and deserved this most. This would many funny things to love square.

[@KingdomofEvania100]

she doesn’t know that Kat is Adrian. She needs to find out already. how is it this bitch trusts her whole team to know their identities but won’t trust cat noir. Ladybug is a shitty leader and needs to be demoted.

[@KingdomofEvania100]

I believe she should reveal the truth. The truth is better than a lie lol

[@mc-inversal7069]

Y'all, theres' this fic called Truth and Consequences, and it does this. FAR BETTER, than the series itself ever could.

[@steveseven3206]

I share some of your ideas, I think that season 6 will probably start a lot of themes in the background, the feeling that some people could feel against Ladybug and not only Lyla. But also a part of the league of miraculous could start to doubt Ladybug (with the help of Lyla to sow doubt in some members)!

[@josephmoses72]

your ML civil war concept is basically the plot of zootopia, & I only realized that when I watched you're video on zootopia's biggest mistake

[@Wisemanoftranquility]

The Civil War between the heroes with Team Ladybug and Team Cat Noir seems like a great idea for a fleshed out new and unique storyline!!!! I’m all here for it. Especially, seeing who sides with Cat Noir. However, the likelihood of that happening is very low considering the show’s past reputation with Thomas Astruc’s way of story writing. Hopefully, Jeremy Zag pulls through for the Fan’s sake!!!😣🤔😺❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@kijjamburodney3086]

Any possible way for writers to get it right?

[@Matheus-ww6qj]

Honestly, 0.01% chance And 99.9% faith

[@Astrem-FNF]

Okay, so I'm gonna base my theory off of this video. I think that the choosing of sides between Ladybug and whoever goes against her would be a bit detrimental, I think that they could actually use characters like Chloe come back and try to side with Ladybug more so than the other because even though she doesn't like Adrien at the current moment given how their friendship is over and she doesn't like Ladybug as much due to the choice of giving Zoe the Bee Miraculous, Chloe would definitely question Ladybug and ask why she lied and when she explains to Chloe about why, she would ultimately decide to side with her. Then the thing about Bunnyx is tricky due to the 3 versions of Bunnyx, which the present one would definitely be sent into the fight as some sort of supposed thing to happen and she would side with Ladybug to keep history on course. But the thing with Adrien, he would definitely be torn up about it, but if he were to also find out that Gabriel had been controlling him throughout pretty much all of his life due to him being a sentimonster would leave him more torn, causing him to use the power from Akumatization to his advantage to at least lash out against Ladybug, Felix, Nathalie, and Kagami for keeping that completely hidden from him and the entire public, but then ultimately decide to use the Akumatization Power to help out Ladybug, then the thing with Alya, she would most likely get angry at Marinette for keeping the truth from the public about Gabriel being Hawkmoth, but then to patch things up after a fight but still make dark humor jokes about it to Marinette, then the thing about the Public's opinions could leave most of them torn up about it, causing them to take up the side against Ladybug in mobs with even some trying to stop chaos from coming out all over Paris to not have Cerise as the new Hawkmoth to create new villains on a wide scale kind of thing. But then I could see Tom and Sabine actually scold Ladybug if they found the truth out about that and then start to question where Marinette goes off to every so often to find out that she's Ladybug which they could definitely scold her or at least have a serious conversation with her about her being Ladybug. But then when it comes to Nathalie, Tomori, and Cerise.. I feel like Cerise would just be making villains for the sake of chaos, Nathalie would be on Marinette/Ladybug's side because she knew that it would have been way worse for her if Marinette had told the truth, and Tomori would choose to probably be antagonistic to both sides but ultimately reveal the truth, causing her, and Nathalie to go to jail and would ultimately cause the uproar and backlash to Ladybug and then Ladybug would try to make amends with the public opinion.

[@akitkat-1225]

It also copies magical girl shows, which also sometimes have divides hero teams and has them pit against each other.

[@ghjjiyeqsg1052]

This will definitely cause a division between Ladybug, Cat Noir, and the other heroes, as well as ruin people's trust in Ladybug as a whole. I am here for a potential civil war and I will cheer it all on.

[@kineuhansen8629]

i think it could kinda be fun to see a mcu style civil war if its gone right and the writting will fit the civil and it could be tense if adrian lerned ladybug secret on who she is

[@via6900]

I feel that they would drag this out for a while, seeing they've confirmed till s9 and i heard they want to go to s12 but we'll see where it ends💀 I'm thinking s6 they will do alot of fake outs, s7 is where the stakes get higher and the finale of s7 will be reveal then s8 civil war but it could also be s6 fake out, middle of s7 will be reveal the rest would be civil war and maybe finale of s7 would be a sort of climax battle of it (?) if you get what i mean s8 again with civil war but they'll learn to get back tgt by the end of it

[@ReginaMacKenzie1994]

I am looking forward to the new and improved series; haters be damned! They seem to really hate me specifically, but they are wasting their time because no amount of harassment is going to change the fact that the series made two right moves in the past year: Paris & Time specials, and it is possible it may continue to get better as we move forward. I wont be speaking to anyone obviously seeking to fight with me. I am just done with those worthless bastards.

[@mayotango1317]

I laugh at how naive you are. I mean, in the Paris special was the only time we saw an intimidating Monarch while in the series he was always humiliated by children.

[@TheNewKombatMaster]

I don't think Cat Noir should become a villain, but an anti-hero once he learns the truth. Change his costume/appearance and announce that "Cat Noir is dead..." or something. Have him do the solo superhero thing, but more aggressively. Imagine how Ladybug would feel.

[@jillsmith5784]

I like your idea and how I'll build off it would to show the Miraculouses that we've only ever seen in team combat be used in one on one combat allowing us to know just how dangerous those specific Miraculouses are on there own because up to this point we've only gotten bits and pieces of how strong and tough they are in a one on one battle so that might help us the audience and maybe the people in the show get a good idea as to why the Miraclouses needed to be protected by the Order in the first place outside of the obvious that already happened with the Butterfly and Peacock Miraculouses both separate and together and when Gabriel was Monarch. Does that sound good or does it need to be different due to how the show works.

[@jacquesgotbacque]

Nearly at 100k 🙌🏼

[@Kingdice940]

I say a leak saying Lilly will turn all of Paris and cat noir against ladybug

[@purpleirken1529]

Despite me not actively engaging in this show anymore, I actually like this idea. If this was their intention-- now that's what I call "Good Writing." But let's see if they'll do anything remotely close to that. 'Cause unless I see it, I don't trust it. They have a reputation of throwing good plotlines out the window.