Lift or Lower your Toyota Pickup or 4Runner by adjusting the Torsion Bars

[@mocruz1200]

Since it's a Japanese truck the torsion bar bolt is metric. I'm doing it right now, it's 22mm

[@laptopdragon]

came here for this..

[@Kiwigd]

😂

[@brodyscott9148]

I have a hammer that fits that. Crescent wrench lol

[@carloscazaresv.3724]

Lol I saw this comment just in the right time, saved me time thank you

[@mojavedesertsonorandesert9531]

Did the same thing to my 88 Toyota- changed my torsion bars to oldman Emu torsion bars (made a big difference 👍). These old Toyota's are solid!🏜️✌️

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Love them!

[@billythomas4527]

How tall is your lift

[@TimmyCramer]

Just bought a 1997 2.7 toyota tacoma 4x4 last week, only had 29k on the odo.....Flawless!! I immediately put new bfg's per the old set was 20 yrs old. Timmy C Arizona

[@PedroKolbEmmel]

Dude I'm buying a 4runner 1993 and the arms were touching the end stop damper, then I started looking and say we're the hell are the springs lol then I saw the torsion bar but doubt it was for real, thanks for the video!! Brought peace for me

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Happy to help

[@ted5543]

Dude, as a you tube learner, I thank you heaps for teaching me how to raised my Bighorn. Now I’m looking forward to apply what you have just showed me. I subscribed too.

[@Jmacs04]

Thanks mate. Haven’t been able to find a decent tutorial and this was finally the one. Made it much easier.

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Glad to help

[@martinkim6564]

i dont even have a garage where i can work on my 4runner but i love watching your vids. They're always insightful and straight to the point! Thanks for the videos, keep it up!

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Thanks I really appreciate it!

[@ZombieGhost2250]

I work in the street on mine

[@84shortyota]

I've never had a garage of my own and I've built several off-road trucks. Just work with what you've got!

[@petergiacomantonio98]

@3:50 12 X 365 degree turns huh? 😂😂

[@1966cambo]

@@CrazyCartsOfLasVegas some metric is the same as imperial sizes....

[@brentlochala686]

Lol, 360 degrees in a circle, 365 days in a year...

[@TWIRKNOLOVE]

@@1966cambo no they are not, that’s how you strip hardware. You can get away with it but it’s never a good idea

[@1966cambo]

@@TWIRKNOLOVE I know they are “close” , try and measure a bunch of different brand wrenches of the same size with a micrometer, lots of difference!

[@TWIRKNOLOVE]

@@1966cambo A micrometer measures to the 10^-6 decimal, so yeah it would be acceptable if some metric wrenches have that much of a tolerance between each other - but the difference in SAE and metric is much more lol. Just best practice not to do it especially on aluminum hardware

[@joshbilliot4032]

I did this to level out my 95 4Runner. Came out perfect to squeeze in my bfg mts in nicely.

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Glad to hey that it helped

[@Jose-tx1vv]

can you email me a picture or a video because i am haveing trouble doing it on my 1994 4runner

[@hunterrobinson826]

Watching this video from nola. My ol lady laughed when you said you was hungover.

[@timeforbigchange9417]

Wow, That was easy . I always feared touching that adjustment and didn't know how. Back in 1993 a Yota guy did this an said his 91' truck ride got stiffer, so I left things alone on my 88' truck.

[@marcusm9367]

Awesome pick up I just bought a 91..I haven't done much but cant wait to DIM. . Do it myself

[@foxgrove60]

Great vid glad u remind me I forgot all about this system and I need to lift my land cruiser 100 series new tires bigger size up thanks so much

[@tedlambert12]

You answered my question I needed answered to finish my lift! Thanks for the video!

[@jmof85]

Awesome tutorial hands down the most simplified and informative Keep up the good work.

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Thanks! *Keep

[@jmof85]

@@SnailTrail4x4 yeah that’s what I said 😂

[@artnoll]

so... How are those cv joints doing after a year of increased angle?

[@Jay351]

Better practice is to install 1.5” ball joint spacers in the front end. It will provide additional droop travel which will provide better handling characteristics over ruts and holes in the road.

[@SnailTrail4x4]

I've actually bought some. I really dislike the ride with the tightened torsion bars. Im planning on installing 1.5" ball joints spacers and loosing the torsion bars back down to stock.

[@eddiebatoa2023]

@@SnailTrail4x4 I have a 94 Toy truck with 3" bj spacers and heavy duty torsion bars.. works great for low cost lift.

[@learysinsight5796]

Hmm.. I’ve talked to a few guys who ‘had’ BJ spacers and said it wrecked their BJoints prematurely.

[@SnailTrail4x4]

@stoney renegade I've never heard that. But it did make the ride very uncomfortable. I'm going to be going to ball joint spacers soon.

[@dannym.4247]

SnailTrail4x4 did you already installed the bj spacers and if so what are your thoughts on them ?

[@carsonbrown1498]

Just broke the adjusting bolt. Now have no suspension on one side. Not sure what I did wrong, the drivers side tightened fine, lifted the truck like a half inch no issues. The passenger side snapped after a couple turns. It's a 1987 4runner.

[@SnailTrail4x4]

I'm not sure if you can simply replace the bolt, you might be able to... If not you might need new torsion bars

[@carsonbrown1498]

@@SnailTrail4x4 I figured it out! New bolt, old anchors. And yes it was as simple as just putting the new bolts in and tightening them down. It's a little wierd because after '88 they changed the design a little bit. Pre '87 you have to use your old anchors with the new bolts. Also there is now just a single big nut instead the 2 that were on there before. Glad I didn't have to tear apart my entire front end to fix lol

[@rogerlarsen5328]

The nephew was my favorite part of the video.

[@charlesbarr3561]

Thanks for the info, and good presentation as well. Good stuff. My 97 T100 is the first torsion bar suspension I've owned. And the driver side sits a bit lower than the passenger side. This should fix it I believe. Maybe raise both sides a bit while I'm at it.

[@conefam]

I would love to see all the videos on Loyd? Rear end work, tires, etc..... looks amazing and videos are awesome.

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Sorry don't have the truck any more

[@tacotots_132]

Love it!! Maby a video on body lifts?

[@omgcheeter]

Is there any cons to timing up a torsion bars (lifting the vehicle) ? Such as premature wear on other parts or potentially breaking them ?

[@Gary.6.10.19]

Yup. Changes angles on CV axles ball joints and steering components. Will eat all of them.

[@tomshiba51]

I have a base 1994 Toyota pickup. I've watched general videos that explain how to remove the torsion bar, but yours explains simply to me how to adjust the height back to normal once everything is locked back into place. Thank you.

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Happy to help! Thanks for the comment.

[@adamlawson957]

First video I’ve seen and it helped so much! Going to hopefully do the same thing to my ‘03 Pathfinder! 🎉 Would love to see some custom bumper tips/grill guard as I will be fabricating one soon. Thanks so much!

[@bushratbeachbum]

You should do a follow up showing why an alignment is essential after winding up the torsion bars. Really fast way to ruin tyres if you don't do it or get it done

[@windprobe7264]

I did that when I owned my 1993 Nissan P/U. Worked great, but I needed to realign the camber, because lifting the front end due to adjusting the torsion bars through off the camber.

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Yes an alignment was necessary

[@interstate80.]

Is this similar on a 2wd pickup?

[@ialbium]

If you push the torsions all the way up will it fit 33s?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Eh... Maybe, but it would be a horrible ride. I would probably add the ball joint spacers and lift the torsion bars, then spacers for the rear

[@drue2283]

Awesome knowledge bro, I just got me a 1990 Toyota pickup and want to lift up it up a bit. How would I lift up the rear ?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Either with a spacer, or new leaf springs

[@michaelseals518]

@@SnailTrail4x4 do you have video for how to do the spacer or leaf springs on the rear. I've got a 91 and they sit so low.

[@SnailTrail4x4]

@@michaelseals518 it would be a block between the axle and Leaf pack. You will mostly need longer ubolts

[@RogerM88]

Cool truck. How then you fix the camber? Need to correct my camber but don't see where to adjust is. Is with the torsion bars or with some bolts in the control arms?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

I took mine to an alignment shop and the got it as close as they could but the camber was still off

[@RogerM88]

@@SnailTrail4x4 with the research I made, to adjust the camber in these trucks, you need to add or remove shims, that are in the screws that attach the upper control arms to the frame. They are visible with the hood open.

[@rickmartin1922]

Good video. For me it was easier to remove the locking nut at the top of the adjuster bolt before turning the bolt.

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Yes, good idea.

[@jefferyfranklin3750]

Did it raise the hole truck or just the front

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Just the front

[@twiztidsidfreak13]

Kids are great! I'm a dad. He wants to help build a truck tooooo

[@SnailTrail4x4]

That was my nephew, and he is A-Maz-Ing

[@anthonygutierrezosorio977]

Hi I wonder when you are going to lift the truck you need to loosen that top nut first and then turn on the other nut.

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Yes!

[@dannycruz6846]

And did you lift the back as well!?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

I didn't, and my front was slightly higher then the rear.

[@juanzuniga8403]

You are smart my Man

[@jacobalmond9025]

Does this mean one side is anticlockwise = lower And the other side is clockwise =lower ?

[@cajuan2000]

Hello. Nice video. Is there such a thing as a very tight torsion bar? If so what would be the symptom? Thanks

[@chrisclift7921]

A real stiff bumpy ride

[@oldowl4290]

Are you running 1" wheel spacers on your pickup here? It looks like it.

[@paulmayfield9709]

I have a 90 and a 92 motor home the 92 is quite a bit lower I’ll have to check it out now see what happens thanks.

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Both those should have torsion bars

[@jimmypage4162]

Nice. Just got a ‘90 SR5 xtracab 4X4 V6 auto with every factory option rust free extremely nice factory paint/graphics I’m thrilled to own one and got super lucky on the price.. how’s the ride after? Any cheap easy hack for a rear end leaf spring to axle spacer for rear lift?

[@quattrocintron9899]

So tightening the torsion bar would make for a stiffer ride right?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Yes, you are correct

[@dundeeecroc]

I replaced my torsion bars from factory to 28mm, factory is 24mm I think. I had a 1995 4runner SR5 v6 with the 5 speed manual transmission.

[@corywilliamsmith]

The Torsion Bar lifts the entire vehicle not just front or back?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Just front

[@28Mystry]

Awesome video! I have some serious rear sag in my 94' Yota pickup. I'm wanting to add some 2in lift leaf springs to the rear. Will I be able to just crank the torsion bars a bit to balance out the front from excessive rake? Also will I need to get an alignment after that? Thanks for any information!

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Yes and yes.

[@timeforbigchange9417]

Be careful of adda leaf, after a while they broke my stock leaf pack on my 88' sr5 4x4. But I did have a 1000. lb. camper in the back 24/7

[@williamcrazylacyfurmage9953]

love the video, My 80 Datsun 720 king cab height is like a 1" or 2" lower on the driver side than the pass side. Is all i do is tighten up the driver side to bring it up some, or do I have to pull the bar off and move the spine a notch over a turn on driver side to go up a little? I want to bring up the driver side to match the passenger side height

[@alexandrebignoux9721]

What is the maximum lift you can put with this method?

[@MeanMāoriM3an]

Quick question mate, can u do.this with a 04 hilux? Also do.i.need to upgrade shocks etc? Thanks in.advance mate great channel!

[@SnailTrail4x4]

I'm not familiar with Hilux as we don't have them here in the states. But if the truck has torsion bars and not coils or coilovers you can do this lift

[@MeanMāoriM3an]

@@SnailTrail4x4 thanks mate

[@georgecates9538]

You turned the bottom bolt 12 turns to the left to bring it up just over an inch?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

That sounds correct, but you should do your own measurement. Every torsion bar will be different

[@georgecates9538]

Thank you

[@wilmercanales4006]

Saludos desde Honduras 22r Toyota es Toyota el mero mero 4x4

[@babyTOY-YODA777]

Standard sizes on a Toyota! Haha cool video bro.

[@afkyungmane5987]

How do you lift the rear wheels? Same process?

[@michaelseals518]

Hey im not clear on what to do with the nut on top.

[@CHMernerner]

ah 90's. when liftup was cheap

[@SnailTrail4x4]

So cheap it was free

[@Mischa.meditation]

I have the same problem with my 91 4Runner . So you lifted the front easily . Did it solve the problem? And, the car is now not leveled anymore , is it ? Isn’t the back „sagging“ now ? How to raise the back at the same time ? Thank you 🙏🏻

[@SnailTrail4x4]

You need new leaf springs with a bigger arc, or some spacers

[@ht9739]

Could I do this on a 2017 Tacoma that already has a 6” Pro Comp?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

No, it doesn't have torsion bars it has a coil overs setup

[@Blake.Blackburn169]

Did it fix the rubbing on the tyres and what size are your tyres

[@SnailTrail4x4]

32x11.5 wheels, 15x8 with a 4" backspacing rim

[@laciramirez3465]

I have a 1991 Toyota pick up 3.0 V6 I wanted to know where is the torsion bar located?

[@simba2ndpatches14]

So now the front end is higher than the back end?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Yes, slightly

[@joetrueblood7663]

I did this to a old blazer and effected the riide really bad, it was way to bouncy, maybe i needed to re ajust my shocks??? Dont know?

[@goreobsessed2308]

I had a wreck in my car and now the tires rubbing against the side wall I notice when I lift it with the jack it clears it is this the same process on a car with torsion bars

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Yes

[@goreobsessed2308]

@@SnailTrail4x4 neat I'll have to get under their and see what can be done

[@Wholetthedogsout714]

I have a 1986 2wd, either the shocks are bad or the torsion bar is bad because I’ve tight it and it didn’t really lift up .

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Well the shocks don't lift, they dampen the spring. So maybe your at the max. How much did you tighten, and we're you holding the nut on the top?

[@robinlatham7579]

Nice job !

[@havefunbesafe]

We used to do this back in the day...gnarly shitty stiff ride

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Yes agreed

[@StubbornOffroad]

What is the the size on the wheels? I like how they stick out a bit

[@cadenschier1543]

I have no idea but if you want yours to stick out a little then I just put on 1 1/2 inch spacers and its not obnoxious but gives them a wider appearance

[@JuicyJ.43]

I’m new to the older trucks but what does it mean if the threads are super long on top does it mean it’s tight or lose?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

I think it means it's loose, if you tighten them the threads should be less

[@NathanClevenger1337]

Are there any long travel options for the 90 2wd Toyota pickup?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

I am sure there are. Check out total chaos

[@NathanClevenger1337]

@@SnailTrail4x4 They got in touch with me and said they discontinued the 2wd long travel kit :\\\. Guess that means it's not worth keeping if it can't have long travel.

[@coreyhoward781]

Of i take off the wheel, would the torsion bolt turn easier?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Not really, but the wheel should be off the ground.

[@gl02vnk]

Just found your videos, quality. Any chance of a torsion bar removal video? I have a ‘91 Surf and I’m trying to take the stock bars off to replace them with longer ones for a lift kit. Mine is a UK car (JDM import) so rusted up pretty bad, unlike yours. I just can’t get anything undone. Any tips gratefully received.

[@SnailTrail4x4]

I do have plans of removing the torsion bars for a solid axle swap. But I don't have plans of putting new ones on. Have you looked into Ball joint spacers?

[@gl02vnk]

SnailTrail4x4 Thanks for the reply. I gave up with trying to remove and put an air hacksaw through the bolts. New torsion bars are in, just waiting on replacement bolts in the mail. Gonna follow the 2” lift with a 2” body lift next. Enjoying the videos!

[@anirudhchauhan1698]

Hey, nice video. I just broke my upper control mounted on chessis. What could be the reason? Does over size shocks can do harm Or over tighten Torsion bar?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Tightening them definitely puts more stress on them, but I haven't heard of anyone breaking th mount off. We're you off-roading when this happened

[@anirudhchauhan1698]

@@SnailTrail4x4 not offloading normal riding.

[@senderbud6323]

How much could you lift a truck before it affects camber too much ?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Maybe an inch... Maybe

[@t4rbrah899]

So is it worth it ? Lifting it this way and getting an alignment ? Want to smack some 33x12.50 on

[@SnailTrail4x4]

It's the cheapest way to do that, but the ride sucks, very rough. I bought a set of ball joint spacer but haven't put them on yet. I think this might be a better answer.

[@simba2ndpatches14]

If you want to put 33x12.50's on, you'll need more than 4 inches of lift, more like 6 inches. I had a 1990 with a 4 inch lift and it rubbed turning, cranked up the bars 2 inches making a 7 inch life to clear 33's.

[@lintonacosta8558]

So what size of tire you Got on en what size of rims .because I’m trying to figure it out what size I need and how much I need to lift it up.? Thank you ,nice video by the way .

[@derekhill4113]

Great video. I have a 1993. I wanna lower it this way. Can I just back the bolt counter clockwise or I have seen some videos where you have to take the torsion bar apart to adjust the pitch. Thanks for the help

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Yes, you can do the opposite and lower the vehicle

[@chrisjones2956]

Nice video

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Thanks!

[@nathanuntun6822]

Thanks

[@silicainformaticas.l.4024]

Thanks, will try that as mine leans backward with new shocks :)

[@SnailTrail4x4]

You you might need to lower yours then

[@Korbin57]

Does this change the camber on the front tires?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Yes

[@railroad61]

What size tires did you put on it

[@jesusavila4835]

Your crank only one side ?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

No, one side will lift only one side. You need to tighten both drivers and passengers sides

[@joegonzales772]

Does this apply to a 2002 toyota preerunner 2wd ? Thank you

[@foilnautics808]

I’m curious if these trucks were setup balanced left to right? My truck was sitting about 3/4” higher on passenger side (front only) I thought possibly to balance out road pitch but probably worn suspension since it’s an almost 30 year old 4runner. I did my best to even it out but now feels like it pulls a touch to the right. Probably because it was aligned as it was and will need a new alignment.

[@justcolt13]

Does tightening torsion bars raise the back and the front?

[@justcolt13]

I have a 95 4runner

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Front, and one torsion bar tightens one side

[@eagle1532]

Will it make the suspension any stiffer? I want to soften mine a bit

[@TubNastyRacing]

I believe if you lower it, it will make the ride softer, but I may be wrong

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Yes it will make it stiffer, if you turn it the other way and lower the vehicle it will soften the ride. My next step was to add ball joint spacers to give me 1.5" more lift then I lowered the suspension by loosing the torsion bars to give me a better ride

[@hwhy8764]

Hi, what is the maximum turns you can put on the torsion bar? And is it possible to tell if it has already been wound up? Thanks Howard.

[@SnailTrail4x4]

The max would be either when you run out at threads to tighten it with or if the tension bar breaks. I'm not sure how to tell if somebody has tightened it already. You could crawl under and look it should be close to the middle of the threads

[@nicks.8835]

Wanting to lift the front of my wife's 2014 4Runner a little because it scrubs when making deep turns in reverse, will this work on that year model?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

No, the 4Runner has struts, with a coil spring over the shock (coilovers). You could either use strut shims or possibly wheel spacers, not sure what your set up is and what mods you have done

[@CentroInvOrografica]

Hi SnailTrail4x4. Would greatly appreciate your opinion on this: I recently got my hands on a Toyota 1994 Pickup, 4x4, 22RE truck. Truck's very clean and maintained at 260000 mi, however, previous owner apparently hit a curb or something with the front driver's side tire, possibly even got hit by that side, don't precisely know. Truck would lean to the left pretty harshly when driving. Caster was seriously out of specs, camber not so much. After some adjustment by an alignment shop, the truck stopped leaning and drove perfectly straight, but camber remained out of specs. So anyway, truck was driving ok so, considering everything else is in very clean shape (body and frame are in perfect shape, no rust), I decided to keep it. Took it to a Toyota dealer which upon inspection found out that the left lower control arm rear mount is BENT UPWARD. Thinking on it, I reflected that considering how overengineered these trucks are known to be, this shouldn't be so big of an issue. I mean with regards to risking breaking the mount or the frame area where it is welded to. Everything seems to be pretty solid and strong, no cracks are visible on the frame or around the mount. Also, I never really considered streightening the LCA mount or frame, better bent but still strong, than unbent but weakened. So I again decided to keep the truck (in addition to engine work, I went on to change upper and lower ball joints, tie rods, steering relay rod (recall), as well as Old Man Emu steering stabilizer and front and rear shocks). BUT THE THING THAT'S BUGGING ME NOW, is the left torsion bar, which I hadn't given much attention until now. Cause sometimes, when, for instance, having the left wheel turned halfway left, and at the same time the suspension on that side compressing-decompressing, as when entering a ramp, creaking-squeaking sounds can be heard from beneath the driver's side cabin floor. Other times, the sounds come simply from, wheel straight, the front end compressing and decompressing while driving over a - say - wide speed bump. I'm assuming those sounds are from the left torsion bar, and it has gotten a bit more frequent and louder over time. At first I thought "such sounds are normal in trucks this old", but then got thinking that maybe the left torsion bar was somehow also compromised by the hit the left front wheel took. So inspecting it, IT SEEMS TO BE SOMEHOW PUSHED UPWARDS where it exits the wheel well and goes beneath the cabin. There is actually not an inch of space between the torsion bar and the cabin, it seems to be actually in contact with the cabin metal floor. I sincerely don't know if this is normal or not. However, the right torsion bar DOES HAVE AT LEAST 1.2 in of free space between it and the cabin, and doesn't touch anything at all anywhere along its full length. I would suppose torsion bars need to have some space around them in order to twist when working, but maybe I'm wrong. So my questions are: 1) Is this normal? 2) When lifting the truck by tightening the torsion bar, does this actually widens the space between the torsion bar and the cabin floor? Maybe all my problem is is the left torsion bar is less tightened than the right side one if this is the case. 3) If the torsion bar, or any of its mounts (front or rear) are under abnormal stress from a probably bent frame, maybe I'm risking breaking something else if trying to replace the bar or even adjust it. What are the odds of this actually happening? I'm just worried the torsion bar may break eventually, wouldn't want that to happen while driving at the highway :/ This truck's gonna be my DD and work truck. THANKS for any advice!

[@SnailTrail4x4]

#1. No #2. No #3. If the torsion bar breaks is kind of like not having a spring in the tire compress up into your wheel well. now if it will break anything else I am unsure and you should probably check with Toyota or a local trusted mechanic. he did mention that you were concerned that one tortion bar might be tightened more than the other. I'm not really sure how to figure that out other than checking the height of each side and adjusting from there. There might be some way to count or measure the threads that are sticking out on one side compared to the other on the bolt that you tighten.

[@elcocoreyes]

your nephew stole the show..lol

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Always does

[@paulmiles483]

Good video! Have you ever done the upper control arm bushings on that truck..they say the torsion bar must be removed...easy/ hard?..would be a great video as our trucks are getting older and their is no content on this subject..

[@SnailTrail4x4]

I'm sorry Paul, I've never done it.

[@zackbland]

Bro will this work on a 2011 Toyota Tundra ?

[@Loppier]

This work ok newer cars ?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Yes if they have Torsion Bars. Most newer vehicles have coils

[@ROBBG88]

Will this work on my isuzu rodeo it has torsion bars

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Yes, if it has Torsion Bars

[@FishingwithMurphy]

Does this work on a 964runner?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Nope, they don't have torsion bars

[@jahbay]

Does this affect the camber and/or Front end alignment

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Yes, you should get an alignment after this install

[@EG6kidd]

Hi, I have an 89 Toyota pickup(22R). I also added a balljoint spacer. Any other ways to raise the front a little more?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

If you have tighten the torsion bars and are using a ball joint spacer that is the quickest and cheapest way to start. The next step is going to be getting a lift kit from someone. If you have some fabrication skills you can also do a Solid Axle Swap (SAS).

[@spencergrundy6172]

what exactly does tightening the torsion bar do and how does this lift and lower the suspension? why does it throw the alignment off? I want to lower my 4runner for gas mielage purposes and im trying to find out as much as possible

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Oh man lots of info to share here... Please email me so I can help you out. [e-mail]

[@Jaico2024trd]

Is there anything like this on 5th gen 4runner?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Nope, the changes from torsion bares to coil overs in 1995

[@Jaico2024trd]

@@SnailTrail4x4 thanks!

[@__diegoortega__]

Do you have a rear lift??

[@SnailTrail4x4]

If you want the truck to be level

[@macedoniozuniga8322]

Cool,i have a 88 4x4 this Will work to lower?...

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Yes, it should. 2wd set up is slightly different, but the theory is the same.

[@cadenschier1543]

will this help with front sag on 2004 4runner and rubbing from spacers?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

I don't think so... I'm not positive, but I don't think 2004 4Runners have torsion bars

[@connorhaines1258]

Did winding it up stop the wheel from rubbing on lock?

[@SnailTrail4x4]

Yes! But it made it a stiff ride. It rode much better after I installed Ball joint spacers and lowered the torsion bars a little. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaO1h5uOnJZ0bJo