Iron Hands vs Sons of Horus - Horus Heresy (Battle Report)

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[@Black_Blow_Fly]

Very excited to see Robin’s Iron Hands in action… I’m a big fan of Geeks Wargaming !! ❤

[@SNBattleReports]

They are great lads

[@warkatwargaming2358]

Another great battle report. Nice to see Ironhands on here. In relation to that rules query about the Hold the Line. It's a morale check but if you fail a moral check you do fall back. Which means if the charger rolls high enough they can cut down the target. It's a really all other nothing reaction because it's very powerful. All bonuses (legion, weapons, extra attack) that trigger on a successful charge are cancelled

[@SNBattleReports]

But you can’t fall back in the one here right? Only the ZM one

[@warkatwargaming2358]

@SNBattleReports I though it you fail a morale test you automatically fall back. I could be wrong but played the other day and it happened to my opponent and he informed me he now has to call back. One the final position was determined I rolled my charge and cut him down. I didn't think this until that game

[@philpulling3811]

@@warkatwargaming2358 pretty sure youre correct here, you fall back and then if the charge is successful you get cut down

[@DirtyMardi]

Legion bonuses don’t get cancelled by HtL.

[@warkatwargaming2358]

@DirtyMardi Is that FAQed. Or is it in the rulebook as can't find it?

[@Thedagda801]

I’m thinking of making an Iron Hands Legion, well I bought the decals and some forgeworld Terminators! Brilliant stuff as always, thank you.

[@SNBattleReports]

Go for it!

[@filipmanicmushroomsandrzej4073]

What a great timing with bringing Iron Hands to the studio. I am just getting ready to start my new project for Shatered Legions (Istvaan V survivors), despite them having no rules. Really cool game, awesome models (DC could do some weathering on his brand new fresh from the factory tanks), maybe they will perform better when looking a bit more "experienced"... and also don't forget that when Champion is in a challenge his buddies in the same combat gain fearless.

[@SNBattleReports]

Awesome! Enjoy Champ

[@sn_dc]

I was thinking of weathering my tanks! This settles it - weathering inbound

[@filipmanicmushroomsandrzej4073]

Looking forward to it :D@@sn_dc

[@raphie8488]

Grav Weapons: roll below your strength ,so a four is a wound on a normal marine.

[@TheMightyDilks]

It’s a strength test which passes if equal to or less than the models strength, 5/6 is a fail for marines

[@raphie8488]

nope it cleary states that it must be below @@TheMightyDilks

[@SNBattleReports]

Will need to check

[@TheMightyDilks]

@@raphie8488thanks for clarifying didn’t realise they’d changed it to differ from the standard characteristic test

[@raphie8488]

@@TheMightyDilks Instead of rolling To Wound normally with this weapon, any non-Vehicle model that suffers a Hit from a weapon with this special rule must instead roll under their Strength on a D6 or suffer a Wound (a roll of a ‘6’ always counts as a failure). NP mate, that makes Grav not quite as useless, still the Bombard is far better with 2D6.

[@BubbaGunShrimp]

I would love to see a rematch with the Sons of Horus and the Death Guard eventually

[@SNBattleReports]

Has to happen

[@lucaslisznianski6416]

Great battle report! I don't know if someone has already mentioned it but invulnerable saves are the only saving throws that can be made for dangerous terrain tests.

[@SNBattleReports]

Correct!

[@danielnelson9600]

I love to see IH on the channel! On the first turn the daemons should have gotten their feel no pain against everything the dread had because they are T5 on the first 2 turns.

[@SNBattleReports]

This is very true!

[@vibergyplus5949]

Per the Age of Darkness Core Rulebook errata/FAQ; a unit making a morale check for the hold the line reaction, falls back if the morale check is failed.

[@SNBattleReports]

Yep 🙌🏽

[@333Beholder]

Such cool armies. Hyped for our HH league we're starting at our local. I'm surprised I haven't seen a fluffy IW list using Brethren of Iron/Allied Admech. I'm going nice and fluffy Brethren IW and was hoping to see some cool little lists in action 🤔😊

[@SNBattleReports]

Brethern?

[@333Beholder]

@@SNBattleReports the Brethren of Iron Rites(don't know if you're memeing and it's going over my head! Haha) it allows you to take some automatons like a thanatar, castellax, Vorax, some WB unique ones..

[@petefenner8905]

Loving the Batreps and ur whole vibe guys. Can a unit charge the troops within a transport if they just shot at the transport? They're technically a different unit, but I do feel that it both makes good sense, and is in the spirit of the game. What do u think?

[@SNBattleReports]

So if you blow up a tank with a unit inside you can charge with that same unit when disembarked with the unit that fired at the tank.

[@shadeofheresy]

So very first shot, why is the Rhino not getting a 6+ cover save from the Saber shots for all the intervening models? Has to be 25% covered. Also, if the Rhino is hit by a penetrating hit, the guys inside need to take a leadership test to see if they are snap firing I belive. Also just noticed at 58mins, didn't you forget to remove the 5 dead guys in the Sons of Horus tac squad?

[@benjaminbrenner745]

Thank you

[@SNBattleReports]

You're welcome

[@Kiickman]

So as Ferrus Manus is dead, Does that mean Iron hands Servs Saruman? as they have the white hand?

[@SNBattleReports]

Could be…

[@DeusExMachina10001]

Looks like meat's back on our menu boys!

[@robertknox8745]

Great game so far! Worth remembering that when a Champion is in a challenge the unit he is in gains fearless (not sure if you pick this up later).

[@SNBattleReports]

I constantly need to remind DC! It’s such a good rule!

[@AirsoftAddicted]

Congrats on game. This is literally... 1st win of this army (with regular game rules) on KZbin. Well done.

[@SNBattleReports]

First Sons of Horus win? Not on this channel 😃

[@AirsoftAddicted]

@@SNBattleReports 2nd overall, first in normal rules :) And I was not joking, no matter how many reports you will check on YT, SoH are beated every single time. Still, amazing battle and great report. Nice to see you had a lot of fun from this game guys.

[@sn_dc]

I can’t wait to get some more SOH specific units ❤

[@AirsoftAddicted]

@@sn_dc Well, that would be amazing. For me they are playable only with fix that came from Liber Panoptica. Small, but really needed changes like the one you can't turn off SoH special rules, 5 ppm less for Power Weapon on Reavers or Spartan for Justaerins. I believe it's worth checking. Waiting for more of your reports, high five!

[@latro666]

DC, he loves that.

[@UndeadKing_5150]

The sons of Horus champion. What kits have been used?

[@SNBattleReports]

This is the Nârik Dreygur model with change of arm weapons and a knot at the top

[@filipmanicmushroomsandrzej4073]

He was a limited model unfortunately, one of my favorite sculpts ever. Still haven't painted mine. I can't decide if I want to paint him as him or use a base for a praetor.

[@lordmalal]

How did the C beam predator do?

[@SNBattleReports]

Go and check it out 😉

[@corylains665]

Love the IH content!

[@SNBattleReports]

Thanks very much Cory

[@titiustatius7926]

well, this is going to be an instant classic! Britons v Saxons, epicness! #forgwynedd

[@SNBattleReports]

Haha it is

[@sn_dc]

Haha amazing haha

[@warpaintjj]

Second listen to this today, it’s sinking in… Maybe build an army list for us as an example?

[@SNBattleReports]

Sorry what is this about?

[@zacharymoorhead6854]

That champion is gorgeous! What model is it?

[@SNBattleReports]

It’s a conversion with the Nârik Dreygur model

[@zacharymoorhead6854]

Thank you!

[@ДмитрийМолоканов-з7ш]

Sabre is very unlucky)))

[@WrathfulSon]

Couldn’t quite tell if the melee immortals were on an objective. just throwing it out there, within company of bitter iron they should have a 4+ FNP from heart of the legion. I coulda missed something but it seemed like someone might have forgotten 🦾

[@SNBattleReports]

Yea you are correct we were doing that when they were on the objective

[@WrathfulSon]

@@SNBattleReports ah my fleshy eyes were weak and didn’t pick up on it

[@OmegaIdiot]

BTW as much as i hate Sabres, their amazing. dont dump bad rolls on unit being rubish XD

[@johncolvin2754]

Sorry iron hands but the flesh is weak, good job you have 3 contempters yay

[@SNBattleReports]

🙌🏽

[@AngryAcolyte]

When we getting more 40K? 😢

[@SNBattleReports]

We actually recorded a game this week

[@DirtyMardi]

The esoterist shouldn’t have died to power fist I don’t think, since it would have been counted as S7. Not that it mattered. 😄

[@SNBattleReports]

That’s true but he’s a traitor so deserves it!

[@DirtyMardi]

@@SNBattleReportsfor the Warmaster!

[@connorwright26]

Exactly what happens with my abbadon and justaerian, deepstrike, just sit there and score, such a waste of MANY points compared to what they end up doing 😂

[@SNBattleReports]

haha at least you win LOL

[@connorwright26]

​@SNBattleReports where are the stats and rules for the deamons that can be summoned? Seems like a good idea to add more colour and something other than marines. 😅

[@sn_dc]

You can download the Daemons of the Ruinstorm pdf for free from GW, that’ll give you the Daemon rules. Then you upgrade a Centurion to an Esoterist which lets you summon!

[@connorwright26]

From a fellow welshman from the brecon beacons, thank you

[@johncolvin2754]

Why do you talk almost exactly the same as the other guy, the bald guy not here today

[@SNBattleReports]

He’s my Father

[@johncolvin2754]

Omg how did I not even think of that, pardon dosnt seem that old so I must be getting old😢😆

[@Nazgull2k1]

Oh yay.. space marines vs slightly less boring space marines! Who's excited to watch mirror matches with the same models? Anyone? Anyone at all? /yawn. Im gonna go take a nap now. Wake me when something exciting happens.

[@SNBattleReports]

It’s called the Horus Heresy Buddy

[@devildogwargaming7594]

You watched a Horus heresy batrep, and moaned about space marines?

[@Nazgull2k1]

@@SNBattleReports Noooooo You dont say!?!? Are you sure?!?! Cause what IS horus Heresy? Lemme think... OH!!! I know!! Its SPACE MARINES ... Vs... SLIGHTLY LESS BORING SPACE MARINES! .. in MIRROR MATCHES.. with the SAME models!! /facepalm The game sucks, do less of it.

[@Nazgull2k1]

@@devildogwargaming7594 I didnt *watch* jack shit. I commented. If I wanted to watch garbage horus heresy gameplay.. I'd go stick my face in a pile of hot shit and then tip for the experience.