Sony a7iii or Sony a9 is it worth the extra money

Sony a7iii or Sony a9 is it worth the extra money
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[@RolandoMora]

Hi my friend I loved your video!!! Excuse me, could you please tell me what camera and lense you used for record yourself this video? It looks stunning!

[@DavidOastler]

Sony a9 and tamron 28-70mm

[@user-nl2rl1ex5c]

Hello, uncle David! thank you for the advice, especially liked your photos, where a group shot of the wedding model are at different levels on the letters, cowboys youth in the school, too, very much!!!

[@surgicalshot1]

Thanks for the informative video!

[@DavidOastler]

Thanks

[@DmitryBrodsky007]

Good video David, I had both A9 and A7III but not at the same time. In fact I had A7RIII in between the two. Now that A9 is $3400 and can be have used sometimes for $2700-2900, I started to look at it again. It is a benefit to hear from someone who uses them together

[@wuerhui]

Thanks for the Video David. I saw photo of Fitzroy garden - one of my favourite places on earth mate!

[@DavidOastler]

It’s so beautiful thete

[@bala1000mina]

Thank you so much David for the informative comparative review! Very helpful for me! God bless and good luck!

[@DavidOastler]

Thanks so much

[@mjfotografiedeNeuried]

Good work, David, as always! Still on Monitor/Viewfinder -2? I dialed in the same since I switched to Sony 3 years ago

[@DavidOastler]

Yes I still am.

[@matthewjames2100]

Great video again David, very informative! I thought the super 35 mode being better for video applied more to the high resolution sensor, ie the a7rlll not the 24 megapixel sensors, I could easily be wrong though. Keep up the great content, I always look forward to your next live stream or video!

[@DavidOastler]

Thanks Matthew I am interested in the super 35mm answer as well let’s see if any Videoguys answer

[@hmudesign]

Hi David, did you shoot all the slow-mo of your model walking around with the A9? Thanks for the very informative video.

[@DavidOastler]

Yes I did.

[@STACYBURK]

Great video! Just wondering... which lens would you prefer... the Sony G Master 100mm STF or the Sony G Master 135mm?

[@DavidOastler]

Definitely the 135mm

[@STACYBURK]

@@DavidOastler Ok, thank you.

[@Dave_Stafford]

Good info.. thanks

[@goldbrick2751]

David great video and excellent points. I went to local camera store here in UK they don’t have any price drops on A9 where is this information published?

[@DavidOastler]

It may be finished now

[@drummingspain207]

Order from Panamoz.com. They only deliver to the UK, Ireland, France and Spain. They are grey importers but provide their own 3 year warranty at your local Sony service centre. Trustpilot reviews are very good. They have a UK telephone number and will give you email responses to queries very quickly. All products are brand new, free delivery 4-6 business days. I’m about to order my A9 with them... £2560 as of today.

[@tonyhaltmar5982]

I've made my decision, thanks to you. This video is just what I needed to see. A big THANK YOU! All the best to you, always..

[@DavidOastler]

Thanks Tony

[@ScotsWildcamper]

A6300 user got Apsc and full frame lens. I've never considered the A7iii the super 35 mode not good enough. If I'd known last year the A7000/A7siii still wouldn't be released yet I'd have bought the A9 already.

[@STACYBURK]

One more question... all my wedding and engagement shoots are in beautiful outdoor landscapes in Arizona. Which do think would be more beneficial to buy between the G Master 70 - 200mm 2.8 or the G Master 135mm?

[@DavidOastler]

I would get the 135mm as long as you also have a wider lens. The Tamron 28-75mm is amazing

[@STACYBURK]

@@DavidOastler I have the G Master 24-70 mm 2.8 and I use it a lot. It seems to put out more pleasing pictures than the Sony 1.4 FE 35mm. I know because I own it also. I also like the power of being able to use the zoom to compose, crop and compress. I end up doing a lot more cropping in my editor if I use a Prime lens.

[@parijatsjoy3724]

Hi David, useful video there. had the A6500 for 2 years and then got the A9 for taking pictures of fast moving kids and loving it for the purpose. But just heard of the A6600 with real time 3D tracking ...same as A9 !!! Do you think the A6600 will be as good for slow moving sports (that is what toddlers are...) compared to A9 ?! Thanks.

[@DavidOastler]

The a9 will be much better at tracking kids and it also has the no blackout screen

[@kennethhart4859]

Thanks David.

[@Bodywern]

Very informative and not hard to understand - you have a gift in that department! Fascinated to catch an almost throwaway remark that the 𝝰9 with firmware update was practically as good as the 𝝰9ii. I’ve just ordered an 𝝰9, so am delighted to hear that. I know I’m late to the party, but I don’t always need the latest gear. Stuff that works well suits me fine! Thanks for this!

[@DavidOastler]

You will love the a9 it’s amazing

[@enrico97404]

Ciao, Ottimo video complimenti ma... credevo di avere capito tutto, poi ho visto la modella vestita di nero e sono andato in confusione!!!

[@YuccaSpeedShop]

Great video. I've been on the fence between an a7iii and a9 for a while and this piece basically confirmed what I thought, if you can afford the a9, get it. The larger sensor is like engine talk. There is no replacement for displacement.

[@DavidOastler]

Yes it is definitely worth it

[@EnzoJerezberlin]

Great! Thanks!

[@InspiredObserver]

Hello David Great video, thanks. Would you mind sharing which camera and lenses you shoot the videos at: 15:56 - 16:01 And 16:02 to 16:10? the quality of the video is stunning!

[@DavidOastler]

Sony a9 Sony 55mm F1.8 lens

[@wolfe4410]

@@DavidOastler the sony 55mm is a models nightmare

[@DavidOastler]

Jency Binny I don’t think so I love that lens.

[@wolfe4410]

@@DavidOastler What I meant was that it is sharp af

[@DavidOastler]

Jency Binny lol I see

[@amitkrupal1234]

Can you please make a video with couple shoot on A7iii on 28-70 (mostly at 28 to 35 mm) with single off camera flash(like Godox TT685s) with ND filter so that we can get beautiful sky without using HSS. I Have shortlisted this kit (A7iii+28-70,1xX1T-s with TT685s, ND4, ND6, ND8 filters) as my Mirrorless Full frame starter kit. I already have Nikon D3300 (its shutter life is coming to end). Doesn't have HSS, doesn't focuses well with ND filter.

[@solomtb5795]

Thanks David , Great video. If these 3 lens I have and should I get A9 or A7 III? I also think of A7R3 too. I am a hobbies landscape person but want to get in street photographic, with Zeiss 25mm F2, Sony 24-70 F4, Rokinon 85mm (manual lens) Thanks for your help.

[@DavidOastler]

If your mainly doing landscape the a7riii is a better choice

[@solomtb5795]

thank you very much.

[@Bo2007uk]

Awesome vid!! I'm torn having left Canon a few weeks back (took a break too) between the A9 and the A7riii. It's a tough decision! This has helped alot but I'm also still torn haha

[@DavidOastler]

The a9

[@Bringisen]

Beautiful pictures I the start, and beautiful models. I like :-)

[@DavidOastler]

Thanks

[@jasbirbawa8039]

somewhere i read,A7iii with 28-75 tamron is struggling a bit after updated 3.0 firmware, what u say david

[@DavidOastler]

Mine is fine.

[@STACYBURK]

Thanks for the video! I just purchased the a7iii last weekend because it was the newer camera. I thought it might be better. But after watching your video, I"m now going to return it for the a9. Keep up the great work bud!

[@DavidOastler]

Thanks Stacy

[@atyl1972]

i am about to buy my first mirrorless coming from a nikon d810, i don't have any lenses left as i am not a brand specific guy, i shoot mainly landscapes, but would love to try wildlife / bird shooting at some point, so is the a9 good for landscapes and long exposures etc, or do i go the a7r3 for the detail, i am too very torn as both models, even nikon z7 have plus and minus all across the board....

[@DavidOastler]

For landscape the a7riv is the best camera and it can also be use for wildlife.

[@atyl1972]

@@DavidOastler i just cant wait for the lockdown to be over so i can handle these cameras, as i feel that will also be a major factor in my decision, the sony's do seem to be a bit tight round the lens mount area, and the grip. i guess i'd also be concerned about the 61mp in the IV, i am 47 and not having the best technique in hand holding would be worried more about camera shake, or would that not be an issue with the IBIS, even with the mp size of this camera?

[@DavidOastler]

Ibis helps.

[@youuuuuuuuuuutube]

You described exactly how I feel about both cameras, they both offer amazing bang for the buck when you look at the competition, but I feel the a9 in particular is so cheap for what it offers.

[@DavidOastler]

I agree

[@jimmychavedo8038]

After weeks of "youtube research", and what seems like hundreds of hours of videos, you have finally answered the question in plain English with real world experience instead of just giving us the specs as a camera reviewer. Many many thanks. I've been looking for a system to get into with a quality camera capable of taking pictures of gymnastics. Way too many $2-3,500 cameras have horrid rolling shutter. I was on the fence and almost bought a used Sony a9ii (was setting up the operation to sell a kidney to get it) That was going to leave me without a second body and lens to film the events and I would just get photos. it may be three years after you posted this video and Sony may drop an a9iii in a few months, but a used a9 is going for $1800-2300 depending on the condition. A used Sony a9ii in excellent condition is $3k on KEH. So I can get an a9 in excellent condition and get halfway to the Tamron 70-180mm F/2.8 Di III VXD. I can't thank you enough.

[@DavidOastler]

Exactly the a9 is still an amazing camera

[@BuzzWorthy]

The camera makers should do as many of the pistol makers do and include 3 grips sizes that are interchangeable. Then you can fit it to your hand/comfort and nobody can complain the grip is too small or too big, it will be just right. Also, as I had mentioned before they should have 256GB on board memory with one card slot. They should offer 256GB, 512GB and 1TB models for premium up sell.

[@DavidOastler]

That would be cool.

[@TheMarcfont]

OMG 11:34 the model stands out!!! Amazing photo!

[@DavidOastler]

Thanks she is beautiful

[@David141071]

Hello David, I have an A7iii and would like to buy an A9ii, but I’m not sure if the update is worth the price, knowing what the A9ii has at this time, what would you recommend?

[@DavidOastler]

I would just get the a9 and save the money

[@David141071]

David Oastler thank you, will take that into consideration.

[@kevinkmhui]

Hi David, have you tried using the A7III to catch bird in flight? I know you are not a wildlife photographer but just wonder if you have tried, for example, to test the AF performance after firmware update

[@klackon1]

Kevin Hui. The A7III update did not affect the AF other than EyeAF. In answer to your main question. I shoot wildlife almost exclusively and own an A9 and an A7III. The A7III is very good for birds in flight - just not as good as the A9. I previously owned a Nikon D500 and Olympus EM1 mark II; and the A7III is easily equal (in my hands) to both for birds in flight - and they are brilliant cameras.

[@DavidOastler]

Thanks for sharing

[@DavidOastler]

The a7iii is still amazing just not the same with af

[@kevinkmhui]

Thanks a lot Pete and David

[@hazardstorms226]

David, if you could please clarify for me. I understand that the A9 is way better for general tracking, but what about eye autofocus specifically compared to a7iii? I'm a portrait photographer and really need quick accurate eye autofocus. I would love to have the option to shoot sports, dance etc. but that would be the second priority for me. I recently bought the a7iii but I'm still within the return window and I have the option to switch. So I'm considering the a 9 as I would love to have that option for movement, but don't want to give up anything as far as eye auto focus for my work. Thank you your help.

[@DavidOastler]

Eye autofocus is slightly better with the a9 but go to a store and try it to make sure you like it.

[@hazardstorms226]

@@DavidOastler great, thank you!

[@kerkezz]

Well done David, can give me an advise. As a stock photographer I shoot in various situations, or themes, with stobes or with natural light.. In stock photography I have to keep in mind quality, but because I mainly shoot life style would A9 meet my expectations? What would be your advice, where to go, considering that I currently have Nikon D750. Thank you in advance 😁

[@DavidOastler]

If you mostly shoot stock static studio work you would be better with the A7riii or the new a4rIv

[@kerkezz]

@@DavidOastler thank you! Actually I never ever shoot in studio (with flash heads) I only use speedflash and rarely It is a static shoot. Because my model are not posed, I let them be natural and move freely. This is my portfolio on shutterstock www.shutterstock.com/g/kerkez just for reference! I am only worried about picture quality, will be at least good as I have with Nikon D750...

[@DavidOastler]

Ok yes the a9 is perfect

[@terrystarr3012]

Thanks David, the a9 looks Good but is the a911 something that should be considered. Regards

[@DavidOastler]

Unless you need the networking for sports I would save the money and get the a9

[@AJ-bb6ow]

Which all round Lens u recommend for A9 for a beginner

[@DavidOastler]

Tamron 28-75mm f2.8

[@Iruinyourkdr]

First view first like first comment. Love you David!

[@DavidOastler]

Thanks

[@ryutashimotomai1743]

Thanks for this. I was just wondering about this. I have an a7r3 and I love it, but the autofocus is the worst of the three.. How well does the a9 track focus in low light?

[@DavidOastler]

It was great at the wedding on the w/e

[@richardcashin5270]

Thanks for this. I have been considering a gradual transition from Nikon to Sony for a while now. My D4s has died so was looking for a D5 to go with my D500, two D750s and D800 and a bunch of fast Nikon lenses. The $1000 instant rebate runs out today in the USA and I may well take advantage of it for the A9. Was going to dip my toe into Sony with the A7iii but I do see a few reasons to go with the A9. The real tracking AF and quiet shutter alone may be with the difference. I do sports, events and corporate work. I am only getting into video recently and I think the A9 will be fine for me as a relative beginner in video. From the comments most folk don’t see an A9II coming out in 2019 but maybe an A7siii or whatever in October or so. So for better video I can could wait for that.

[@DavidOastler]

I agree with what you are thinking it’s a great deal at the moment

[@kennethhart4859]

Hi David. I have the Sony A9. I’m trying to decide between the A7 lll or A7R 3 as a second camera. Ishoot a variety of things. Weddings, gruduations ceremonies, concerts, travel. Your professional opinion, which would you choose. Thanks for the video.

[@DavidOastler]

For what you said I would get the a7iii unless you do lots of landscape

[@FELiPES101]

Eh I'm waiting for 4k60 or better fps for extreme sports video but I also love photography...maybe something for the a7iv or a7000

[@Andy1076]

Not being a professional photographer at any level I settled for the A7III, it already does enough on autofocus speed and shot quality. Of course, the A9 would be a dream but the memory card would fill up FAST lol

[@DavidOastler]

Thanks for sharing

[@tomaszcz.6949]

Its the best comparison on the web! Im going to buy a SONY camera and consider lenses. Which one would you reccomend for weddings. Sony FE 24 mm f/1.4 GM or Sony FE 28 mm f/2.0 ? Mainly in terms of light - as I'm planning to shot without a lamp - would the f/1.4 ORA f/2.0 will be crucial on A7/A9?

[@DavidOastler]

Definitely the 24mm 1.4

[@tomaszcz.6949]

@@DavidOastler Thanks for your reply. Your advice to go to 1,4 is related on stronger BOKEH effect or related to stronger capabilities to shot with lower ISO/shutter time in low light situations? Which one is crucial? Changing f.2 to f.1.4 would allow to shorten one step exposure time or desrease ISO. Your quick response will be appreciated. Tomorrow I have to place an order

[@ruedigerbrungsberg3163]

You confirmed whatI was already thinking: Get the a9!! I do have the 7RIII, 7III, a 6500 and want to sell the 7RIII (most money) and either the 7III or 6500. For landscape I sometimes need the extra zoom of APSC, so would it make sense to sell the 7III and keep the 6500, or do you think the 7III is so much better as an allrounder it may be worth to keep it instead?

[@DavidOastler]

I would keep the a7iii

[@rene.s.s]

What did you end up doing? I would have kept the R as its crop is better than the actual APS-C camera. But I’m biased being an R III shooter looking to add A9 and A7 IV

[@AlbertVasquez4Homes]

If the autofocus on the A7 iii or Riii are a 5 in a scale from 1-10 after the firmware updates, then what would be the score on the autofocus of the A9?

[@DavidOastler]

9 it’s almost perfect

[@AlbertVasquez4Homes]

David Oastler oh wow!! So almost more than double the autofocus performance when compared to A7R iii or A7 iii?

[@DavidOastler]

It’s not double just different the tracking is so amazing

[@STACYBURK]

If photography is your main focus and being that it's only 4 to 6 months away from the release of the Sony a7s iii, would you wait on the a7s iii or go ahead and get the a9?

[@DavidOastler]

The a9

[@frankwieczorek5112]

Ha, ha A7siii, (we're all) dream(ing) on!!

[@DavidOastler]

Lol yep

[@rene.s.s]

@@frankwieczorek5112 what was that ? ^_^

[@oasean]

This past week, the first of April 2022, as I shopped Adorama's used section, it was an α7 III for 1179 USD or an α9 for 1599 USD.

[@DavidOastler]

Great prices

[@georgedamis2495]

Still don’t get why the a9s mechanical shutter is so slow. ? Love it though

[@DavidOastler]

I wonder why as well

[@TW-iu9zy]

... we are two journalists and we use all four models: s9, s7r3, s73 and a6400. So we have the right camera for every job. And Sony makes the work much easier then any other brand. 😊

[@DavidOastler]

Yes they do.

[@95Ldunc]

Great video David. I have both the A7III and A9. I got the A9 during a holiday special in November for $3500.00 USD ($1000.00 off). I was hard pressed to tell someone the difference besides the FPS in electronic shutter and the brighter EVF. Excellent explanation as to the critical differences. I’m very happy I have both cameras. They serve different purposes but are both very good at capturing, clean crisp pictures right out of the camera. Being a wedding photographer and portrait photographer both of these incredible tools give me a clear advantage over my old gear that I traded in to make the change. (Nikon D5 and Nikon D850). I lost about $5000 in trade and was doubting myself at first but It was well worth it.

[@DavidOastler]

Yes I did the same thing

[@hazardstorms226]

For what situations so you prefer a7iii?

[@DavidOastler]

I only prefer the a7iii if I need picture profiles for video otherwise it’s the a9

[@hazardstorms226]

@@DavidOastler thank you!

[@ForrestWest]

On the A73 I change the focusing mode and also the drive mode with one push of the function button while looking through the viewfinder. I'm sure the dial on the top would be nice but I wouldn't need it to make those changes without looking away from my subject.

[@DavidOastler]

It’s not focus it’s also drive speed ect. I love the tactile feel.

[@ForrestWest]

@@DavidOastler yes drive mode, focus mode and all changes are available on the function menu but dials are nice too. The A7iii exposure comp dial is really clicky though compared to the other 2 dials

[@kennethhart4859]

Hi David. I own 2 SONY A9's. I'm an event photographer and the A9 has served me very well. Today 2023 would you consider trading a A9 for the Sony A7 IV. Thanks for sharing your content and information.

[@DavidOastler]

Hi it really depends if you use the silent shutter if you don’t then the IV is better

[@chewbokehl1435]

Thank you David for this - really useful info regarding differences that helped me make a decision.

[@DavidOastler]

Thanks for watching

[@Pilot7826]

What if you want good autofocus but also shoot landscapes? A9 is still a good all-round camera?

[@DavidOastler]

24mp is fine for that.

[@Pilot7826]

David Oastler Thank you. A9II it is for me

[@lazaroalonso467]

I'm shopping now and moving up from the Olympus Omd-Em2 system, but stuck on whether to get a73/a7r3/a9, money is not an issue. My main focus is a great travel camera for landscape 30%, portraits 30%, street photography 20%, and wildlife 20%. I was originally going for the a7r3 with the 100 to 400 gm and 24 to 70 gm. Now I'm confused, please give me a push in the right direction. Thanks so much and your video was great.....

[@DavidOastler]

I think I would get the a9.

[@lazaroalonso467]

Thank you for the quick response. I would like to ask you one last question. I've done 4-safaris in the last 2 years and leave for a migration following on August 23 of this year. I was actually thinking, before seeing your video of buying the a7r3 with 100-400 with the 1.4 tele-converter. The reason for this choice was using the crop factor in the camera for longer reach and file size helps with that on the a7r3. Do you still think i can get good distance and moderate cropping with the a9 for long shots in wildlife. thank you@@DavidOastler

[@DavidOastler]

If you need to crop and need resolution the A7riii is better for that it just depends on what you mostly shoot cropping needs an A7riii

[@videophoto1436]

Hi David, I see another comparison between A7III and A9 in this month, and exactly the same narration of these reviews (accident ? i dont think so). Why is so many reviews coming now between those two cameras? Perhaps Sony sends such recommendations in email ? But why they doing it now... It seems to me that the new camera will enter the marketplace in a moment (A7SIII or successor A9) and Sony need to empty warehouses from old stock???

[@DavidOastler]

I think the new firmware updates and a9 special pricing has brought the reviews on I certainly did not receive an email from Sony.

[@drummingspain207]

Can a Sony shooter tell us if it's acceptable for flash studio work? Thanks!!

[@DavidOastler]

Yes it sure is.

[@drummingspain207]

@@DavidOastler Thanks - I had heard it had a severe problem but it turns out it's just that you can only use 5 fps.... but hang on, how often do you need that for studio work? Thanks again

[@macbaar]

Camera body & lens are tools for what prec? Choose yor cam lens and light gear for the job.... money problem? Rent it... 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑😜🇨🇭

[@drummingspain207]

@@macbaar I really didn't understand much of your garbled message. "Prec"? - no idea what you're talking about! "Choose your gear for the job" - yeeeees......! That's why I asked the question, capiche? "Money problem?" - who said anything about that? It's no problem - my A9 arrived today :)

[@DavidOastler]

Congrats on the a9

[@michailxyntarakis1590]

I have the A7III for a few months and I am shooting sports/running as a hobby. I am happy with the A7 which is a lot better with Firmware 3.0. However, eye focus is not always right on the A7. I am getting 5 frames/second or less in focus with the 70/200 GM. You do need more frames to capture runners in the best stride etc. I love what I have but ... I think I would have been a lot better with the A9 (which I haven’t yet tried though). I would say the added money is well worth it.

[@DavidOastler]

I agree

[@heybrook819]

The main reason that I switched from a7iii to a9 is the EVF or shutter lag on the a7iii.

[@DavidOastler]

Yes the a9 is much better

[@MMm-hz6hl]

Yes agree with you, the shutter lag made me return it within a week..now looking for used A9..cheers

[@nezikaras9613]

Hello for portrait photography a7r4 or a9 or a7 iii which ı should choose David?

[@DavidOastler]

For portraits the a7riv if you resolution otherwise the a7iii

[@nezikaras9613]

David Oastler thanks 😌

[@Alexander.Ochoa.]

You don't even need to watch the whole video... One camera is for a certain type of consumer and one is for another. If you're a professional taking sport/action photos go with the A9, and if you're not go with the a7iii. Done deal.

[@DavidOastler]

I’m finding the tracking of the a9 is amazing for what I do and I’m not an sports shooter.

[@Pilot7826]

Alex, excuse the dumb question as I’m just a beginner. But do you mean to say that the A9 wouldn’t work as well as the A7III if your focus is just on portraits and landscapes? Thanks

[@DavidOastler]

They are both great it just depends if you need the better focus and silent shutter.

[@Pilot7826]

@@DavidOastler Thanks David. Maybe I'll wait for the A9II. Supposedly, it's coming this year...

[@damiencolacion6339]

Subscribed

[@DavidOastler]

Welcome to the group

[@damiencolacion6339]

@@DavidOastler thank you.. can I ask how long can you take 4k videos in a7III and the a9 like the max minutes of continues 4k recording. And does the a9 or the a7III overheats? Thank you so much.

[@tjsmokey]

I'm sold. In summary, get the A9 asap!!!!

[@DavidOastler]

Lol yep

[@LtDeadeye]

You just made me $3,000 poorer David! The A9 is on its way! She will be joining her older sister, my A7R2.

[@DavidOastler]

You are so going to love it.

[@martinlabelle3103]

There's a black hole in the background

[@DavidOastler]

Yep

[@johnsoncityaerialphotograp7201]

You’re using your new Sigma 16mm 1.4 on this video aren’t you? Your depth of field is much shallower than usual..

[@jimmyqballs]

As a sports photographer, the A9 is 100% worth the money. I have two of them now, with the 70-200 GM and the 100-400 5.6 GM and it's a great combo. Sadly the metabones and sigma adapters aren't nearly reliable enough, I'd love to be able to use the Canon 300 2.8, but you lose so many features and focusing reliability it's just not worth it.

[@DavidOastler]

Thanks for sharing

[@TheAgora123]

The mechanical shutter has been tested to 500,000 cycles. Additional seals were made for moisture and dust resistance.The life of the camera surpasses the Canon 5D Mark II. No other camera market has this durability

[@DavidOastler]

Good points

[@0xCometa]

Shooting wide open during a bright day and utilizing the 1/32000 is just a great option!

[@DavidOastler]

Yep I love that feature

[@Noealz]

A good photographer can make great use of anything :)

[@DavidOastler]

Yes they can but gear also helps especially af.

[@stephengatley8144]

Yes that’s true but quality of life helps make the creativity flow! 🤔

[@DavidOastler]

Yes it does

[@andrewbristoe1833]

clever trio a73 general use a7r product wildlife where the extra mps come in usefull and a9 for action also the screen res better in a7r and a9 for wildlife incredibly difficult mp v fast af and fps both equally useful mamouth a7r file size prob lean towards a9

[@mwran]

Dynamic range on A9 not as good as A73/A7R3. Maybe Sony using pricing to move inventory to make room for new models. I believe the stacked sensor in A9 is 1st gen. I am sure Sony has been able to improve sensor at the hardware level since the initial release.

[@DavidOastler]

The DR is very close in practice and I don’t think we will see another a9 for awhile

[@attilahardy3448]

@DavidOastler do you have or know of a video that explains the different types of tracking, focus, and spot metering options on the A9 with updated firmware and which work the best with the Eye AF?

[@DavidOastler]

No I might do one when I get time

[@chriswildlife8826]

...i think its better to buy the a7iii nowadays...and waiting for the fourth generation models...they will bring the a9 features...for a much lower price...and...with more resolution...and better weather and dust sealing...

[@DavidOastler]

Yes I agree

[@uofmdad42goblue2]

no profiles is a deal breaker. if you are a full-on photographer and videographer get the a7iii ..if your strictly a photographer get the a9...i love my a9 but I use my a7iii more because I do video and photo.

[@DavidOastler]

Yep I prefer the a9 for video but that is me.

[@GaryBox]

Totally agree. I wasn't prepared to spend more on the body so the a9 wasn't a consideration. I don't do that much video but want to get into it and the a7iii is the better all round camera. I know the areas where a9 is better and none are relevant to me. I've been happy with the evf on a7iii and I can't think of times where I've missed a shot with it. Maybe if I needed to use silent shutter all the time the banding issue would piss me off but I've just not needed to use it yet. If you are mainly stills and shoot sports then the a9 would be worth it. Sure if I held the a9 and saw the evf I'd probably love it but I've never felt the a7iii been an issue.

[@stuartschaffner9744]

This is a really nice review of both cameras. However, I think you are making a very common mistake of not considering other valid modes of camera use. You state without qualification that mechanical dials on the top of a camera body are in general a better form of user interface than using menus. With your weddings and portraits of dancers you have great cred as an action photographer. However in both instances you can talk to the subjects and they will usually follow your wishes. Now think about a bird photographer with a big heavy lens. Wildlife, and I suspect sports photographers are a bit like airline pilots: long periods of inactivity punctuated by unexpected bursts of rapid and critical actions. Often a tripod is involved. Low viewpoints are often good, but often they have to be high to clear whatever the photographer is hiding behind. A good wildlife photographer can find and operate the buttons, wheels, and other user interface elements by feel. The EVF shows what the current settings are and how they change. You can make and verify changes in seconds without taking your eye off the subject you are tracking. Now suppose instead you have something important on a mechanical dial on the top of the camera. Suppose the camera is mounted on a tripod at eye height. You have to take the camera off the tripod, or change the alignment even to see the markings. The extra mechanical lock button also doesn’t help. By the time you are done with all that, Murphy’s Law guarantees that the bird has flown or the football pass has been intercepted.

[@jamesf3382]

Stuart Schaffner your comment is nonsense. You can always use custom buttons like on a7III and forget about this dial. For me personally the dial is a huge improvement in usability.

[@DavidOastler]

Yes I don’t shoot wildlife at all so I can’t comment on that aspect of the camera at all.

[@DavidOastler]

I love the extra dials.

[@stuartschaffner9744]

@@jamesf3382 and David Oastler, I am sorry that you both are taking this comment so negatively. I was trying to point out that there might be other types of users of these cameras and that there might be other valid points of view about user interfaces. I don't claim myself to be any expert on either these cameras or on wildlife photography, but I also don't make reviews for a large audience. I was primarily pointing out that for whatever reasons a significant number of photographers use tripods and that others do not feel they can take their attention off a dynamic subject long enough to look onto the top of the camera. David, I think your review could be improved by simply mentioning that you are concentrating on their use in wedding and portrait photography. Comments from people doing other kinds of photography ought to be welcomed as enhancing the overall value of your review. Mike, I used to use an A7rii where I did not have this problem. My little episode of frustration was on my A9 last fall, so it might be unique to that camera, or even to that camera's firmware at the time. I recall that the menu system did not seem to allow me to change the shooting mode. However, were it to allow me to, for instance, put shutter mode into the fn panel then it would be possible that the dial on top might give an incorrect reading if I were to glance at it later. So, again, David I like your review and wanted to give you some useful feedback. Keep up the good work!

[@DavidOastler]

Hi Mike I was not worried about your post at all I love all different points of view Thanks for sharing

[@ihurricane7]

Gonna tell my kids this was Alton Brown

[@DavidOastler]

Not sure what that means.

[@DanielConstant00]

I have enough to buy a a6400 to be my bcam for a7iii but i think i should keep saving to get A9 and have a7iii as b cam.

[@DavidOastler]

Great idea

[@DanielConstant00]

@@DavidOastler Do you think Sony A9 will be discounted moving forward? And maybe more so when newer full frames come out i.e. A7Siii?

[@DavidOastler]

Maybe late this year.

[@stephengatley8144]

I just went backwards & got a minty X-T1 & grip for $550 Au less than 2k shutters! Scored 👍

[@DavidOastler]

That is great

[@Marcopereira]

the problem with sony is the file.. looking at your photos and other sony users, quickly identify the sony photos the file looks "too digital"..

[@DavidOastler]

I don’t agree

[@madphotographer762]

A7000, that's what everyone should buy... but where the hell is it..?? lol

[@DavidOastler]

Lol

[@rene.s.s]

Not happening

[@clarkjames1510]

first time i've heard someone say to use super 35 on the a7iii, that is correct info for the r3 though

[@DavidOastler]

It’s fine as long as you don’t pri t too big. I used to shoot weddings with a Nikon d3s it was 12 mp file.

[@KenCheng]

I disagree about the extra dial on the a9, I personally don't care for it. Anything the dial can do (for me) it's much quicker to get to with the Fn button (I own the a9 and the a7RIII)

[@DavidOastler]

I love the dial.

[@jamesf3382]

I can't imagine going back to not having the dial. I hope they will include it in a7IV and a7rIV

[@KenCheng]

@@jamesf3382 nope, I much rather NOT have to pull my eye away from the viewfinder to change settings

[@jamesf3382]

Ken Cheng if you can't switch AF-S to AF-C or High Burst mode to Low Burst mode without looking at the dial, you need to see your doctor. Vitamin B complex might also help.

[@Silkroads733]

Ken Cheng I own both the a9 and aiii but haven’t even taken the a9 out the box which I brought as a package deal with the 24-70 f/8 stop lens...I don’t even use any of the material things I own that much..I just buy them as investment for years down the line if I’m broke..I have a habit for hoarding expensive items..I still use my old mk2 canon 5d that I brought years and years ago..and I’m not nowhere near a professional snapper..

[@TheAgora123]

This is one on multiple links:fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Alpha_9. Have a good day

[@angelobarrera41]

90% percent of your client isn't going to know what banding is.

[@DavidOastler]

Yes but they will if it is bad and I have had some bad ones sent to me from subscribers in fact one who used the a7iii for a wedding with silent shutter is shattered as his images have bad banding and he could not see it till he put it on the computer

[@angelobarrera41]

@@DavidOastler I'm new to Sony and I have the a7iii with fast glass along with Canon 5d4 and I think if you know enough to what your gear can do banding can easily be avoided. But thanks for the response, I do see your point in sending your best to clients.

[@GilbertTV]

A9 if youre a pro for sure...

[@HTBMLBB]

No a7R3 in consideration, eh? :) That's the sweet spot for me.

[@DavidOastler]

Yep not for me I don’t really need the file size.

[@picturef8]

I went into a Sony store and picked up a a9, it's the first time I have picked up a Sony . I have always had Nikons ..d810 being last and just moved to Canon eos r . I cant believe how poorly designed the Sony is , how can you hold that thing for hours ?

[@DavidOastler]

I love it but we all like different things.

[@SonofHendrik]

I hear a A9ii coming up. Pure advertising.

[@DavidOastler]

I agree

[@xkawi543x]

Wow, I think all just throw my a7III in the trash........nope.

[@DavidOastler]

Lol the a7iii is a great camera

[@J_bar_S_Photography]

Well, the a9 isn't and will never be in my budget lol so the a7iii it is but i would kiss your A** if someone would let me use a a9 for a bit lol But to answer your question yes, i think the a9 is worth the extra money. The EVF and the silent shutter is better in the a7iii.

[@DavidOastler]

Lol the a7iii is still an amazing camera

[@J_bar_S_Photography]

@@DavidOastler Oh yea totally. That's my dream camera lol I have the a6300 and i love the camera. I'm saving my change right now so i can get my lens the Sigma 150-600 so the a7iii is gonna have to wait for a little bit. Yes, the a9 has more FPS than the a7iii but 10 FPS you'll never really know a difference .

[@DavidOastler]

I do notice the difference with the girls jumping during dances

[@J_bar_S_Photography]

@@DavidOastler Well, you have been doing this way longer than I have lol I'm a just starting out in wildlife photography. Even tho you don't do wildlife photography I still watch your videos because I learn a lot. My 6300 shoots 11 FPS and I really couldn't tell a difference when compared with my friends a7iii. Dumb question but what do you look for when you are comparing the two cameras in the FPS?

[@DavidOastler]

Things like the feet touching in jumps the perfect straight leg etc.