Spider-Man 2 - How To Build The Perfect Protagonist | Film Perfection

[@JiReyAnimation]

I disagree with Peter needing to be more proactive during the fusion demonstration. The whole point of the scene is that Otto can't stabilize it, and the reactor should be shut down, but he's so obsessed with it, due to it being his life's work, that he doesn't want to shut it down and call it a failure. This goes with the theme of the film, letting the thing you want the most go, in order to do the right thing.

[@ravenkarlin]

“Sometimes we have to be steady, and give up the thing we want most. Even our dreams.”

[@rjsouthworth5246]

Agreed. Also, the fact that Otto can't stabilise the first fusion reactor makes the stakes clear when he rebuilds it on a bigger scale. The audience knows that if Spider-Man can't stop it, it will definitely destroy at least half of New York. If there was a possibility that the first reactor could have been recovered, we wouldn't have that.

[@androssteague]

Jimmy Reyes Animation. I agree it Ock tried to save his wife and spidey destroyed the reactor which in turn got Ock's wife killed, the film makers would've spent most of the movie trying to make Peter likeable and respectable again. So any punishment you see him endure after that scene would've been satisfying to audiences rather than sympathetic

[@dariusslim8694]

This comment needs more recognition

[@Ray03595]

Well said. Always good to think for yourself and not take what video essays say as gospel.

[@ayushshah2103]

I love how 15 years later there are still videos about Spider-Man 2... That's when you know it's a solid movie.

[@UltraPrimeHunter]

or that people are just starved for content and originality. Sick of hearing the same uninspired regurgitated shit about this movie. Even if it's a good film.

[@kylelundgren5133]

@@UltraPrimeHunter people claim they want something new and then whine and complain when they do so what the movies do is say do what make some money. I'm making the same lazy uninspired movies as they normally do until somebody makes some regular gutter trash into Super gutter trash look at the latest Star Wars series horrifying example of gutter trash like Rian Johnson or JJ Abrams both of them.

[@Loxer150]

Damn I can't believe it's been 15 years

[@michael_2xx408]

Spider-Man 2 is the most overrated superhero movie of all time the reason why people like it because it's nostalgia and you don't see the flaws in the movie homecoming and far from home is better I don't @me 😎

[@DaYoLoMaster801]

@@michael_2xx408 yeah, it's ok to have the wrong opinion, don't worry

[@wbhurt01]

Am I the only one that disagrees on his point that Tobey’s acting didn’t really add to Peter’s character? The guy was literally Peter Parker in the movie. It takes much more than just simply knowing about Spider-Man. There has to be a representative to show us the struggles and triumphs. Sure Tobey isn’t the most amazing actor but, his performance felt real to me. He felt like an ordinary guy with extraordinary gifts

[@timy9197]

And most importantly, he does a good job at making him sympathazable. That's not a thing just anybody can do.

[@joshuanaranjo5296]

Tobey is peter

[@wbhurt01]

George Harry That was a pretty huge exaggeration but okay. I’m willing to bet there’s at least one comic strip of Peter oogling over MJ. Just say you haven’t like any of the actors, it’s easier than just over exaggerating whatever flaw you may see with them

[@RaMraM-zm1el]

I think that was the point. Stan Lee wanted Peter to be ordinary that's why Spiderman is the Amazing Part of Peter Parker

[@arkham7727]

@George Harry Just keep your mouth shut about things you don't understand!

[@chrissosa3723]

I like this video but I disagree on two points: 1. The CGI is pretty strong for a '04 movie. 2. Tobey McGuire *_is_* spiderman. I know for a fact that if RDJr was replaced by someone else to play Iron man, there would be backlash, same thing with C. Evans and Cap or R. Reynolds and deadpool. I liked both Garfield's & Holland's spiderman, but Tobey's spiderman really stands out. Anyway man, love your content.

[@DarkGamerA]

Yes

[@thetypingavocado574]

Exactly, doc ock's arms look great and hold up compared to some mcu films

[@DarkGamerA]

@@thetypingavocado574 yeah but that was not cgi

[@prakesh2904]

Pirates of the Caribbean was made around the same time, and Davy Jones looks better than most Marvel villains nowadays. Sometimes even better than Thanos.

[@angryanakin]

@@DarkGamerA some of it was

[@aerothelich2023]

be as unfair and cruel to your protagonist as you can.... *Dark Souls approves*

[@dylana.9057]

Last of us 2 doubly approves

[@barbablanca117]

Guts from Berserk

[@miroushebsheb3943]

Gundam ibo season 2 approve

[@InNOutmuncher]

People keep forgetting about Deadpool

[@robertrowley4929]

Sounds like straight up villain talk to me.

[@Themboys22]

I’d rather have cheesy and amazing movies than cliche and formulaic. This trilogy will always be great.

[@trafrp]

Thats why its called the holy trilogy

[@goodgamesir1750]

@@glue6143 it's not nostalgia, it's really great.

[@goodgamesir1750]

@@glue6143 Then the same can be said for the MCU. Tons of those movies are overrated.

[@goodgamesir1750]

@@glue6143 It's not dude. But the raimi movies aren't masterpieces like some claim it is. But Spiderman 2 is a truly great film like any other great superhero film. You blindly follow MCU films and look back on the early 2000s films.

[@goodgamesir1750]

@@glue6143 I'm not projecting, but your trying so hard to shit on the raimi movies but it's never going to work.

[@Laxhoop]

**Video starts with “Pizza Time” **Instant like

[@juniorjunior5884]

Agreed.

[@DetectiveJones]

Just thought that to myself and thats the first comment I see

[@Gabriel-ey8dd]

Rent?

[@azazelop5223]

Upvote? You mean like?

[@arditeider2812]

oh no doctor connor's class

[@kieranholmes8086]

I’d say the CGI still looks amazing for 2004, and as for the plot not starting till half an hour in I love, the film takes time with its characters rather than rushing to action. Great video I love how you brought up how everything is wrong in his life because of Spider-Man, that exactly how it is in the comics. He’s an incredibly endearing character

[@igors1690]

Yea, the cgi did revolutionize spiderman movies considering it was back then

[@minhaj_khan]

@@glue6143 The film did win an oscar for vfx (think of that what you will). In some scenes, sure, CGI doesn't hold up, but take another look at 1:15 - 1:22 That's CGold, 1 example among other scenes. Either me being a CG artist makes me appreciate it more than others, or it actually still looks pretty darn good.

[@TracksWithDax]

Honestly, I'm right with you... I think the one thing that 'ages' it a bit (besides the lightly flat-looking texturing) is that the things moving don't look like they have a lot of *weight* to them. But otherwise the way things are put together looks VERY good considering we're talking about 15 years ago.

[@FuzzyDlop]

"The plot not starting until half an hour in"...yeah, that's basic screenplay structure. Stanley Kubrick talked about that in one of his rare interviews; he said if the movie didn't pull him in within the first 30 minutes, which is the "introduction" of the film, he wasn't going to stick around even when the story starts to develop. On one hand you have Stanley Kubrick...on the other hand...a goddamn youtuber.

[@bradwoods371]

@@minhaj_khan i says this all the time. A 15 year old movie that still looks cutting edge in terms of cgi (most of the time)

[@-Lola.]

I disagree about the fusion reaction scene, it was perfect as is. The whole point of it is about Otto not wanting to fail even though he clearly already has, it would make Peter look antagonistic if he destroyed someone’s life work if it weren’t a threat. It fits in with the theme of sacrifice too

[@ko71k52]

I guess filmento meant Peter to stop Otto who is still conscious, so there was a tiny chance Otto could stabilize it, yet Peter denied him the opportunity to risk so many lives, as he sees him getting obsessed

[@whisperofthebookworm5341]

Peter also idolizes Otto. He trusts him.

[@flying-magpie]

That and he's already dealing with accidently killing Harry's dad, so it would just be redundant

[@darthzayexeet3653]

Spider-Man 2: Peter gets bullied Spider-Man 3: *Peter is the bully*

[@Emobullymaguire]

Yessir

[@whisperofthebookworm5341]

Somehow, your comment perfectly explains Raimi’s genius and BALLS in making Peter the antagonist of Spider-Man 3.

[@campflacko8191]

Spiderman 2:Bullied Maguire Spiderman 3:bully maguire

[@MariOmor1]

@@campflacko8191 Spider-Man 1: bullied Bully

[@Xelfist]

@@whisperofthebookworm5341 peter is still the protagonist...

[@Rifer0]

Raimi's Spider-man will always have a special place in my heart. A huge part of my childhood and just hearing a small piece of Elfman's score makes me really emotional, almost bringing a tear to my eye.

[@sarahirisfox]

I definitely agree!

[@mannujc9871]

feel u bro

[@eduardomartinez7648]

Fax

[@superstag]

Then consider me your reflection as I do this too... I'm literally downloading The Holy Trilogy to re-watch for the nth time in this lockdown.

[@NKproductions316]

I can relate to this

[@DextroDNAOfficial]

One of the most important parts of this movie is that it has heart. Peter's struggles and his commitment to putting others before himself, the exploration of what it means to be a hero (Aunt May's speech is some of the best, most heartfelt dialogue in any superhero film), the idea of sacrificing yourself for the greater good. Add to that some epic action and incredible music, and that's why many consider it the best superhero/comic book movie ever alongside TDK. I don't think even the MCU will ever be able to recapture what this movie had, which is a shame. This is hands-down the best portrayal of Spider-Man

[@bradporter8110]

mcu spiderman has always just been campy and fun to me, still a good movie though

[@JayVicky007]

Yeah now compare Aunt May's speech to the one Martha gave Supes in BvS... cringeworthy!

[@arizona_anime_fan]

well remember, in marvel's universe, top end spiderman is like a god in comparison to most of the MCU heroes featured in the Marvel movies. The answer the MCU had to this power conundrum was turn him into a kid who is still trying to figure his powers out; then give him the iron-spidey suit to power him up for the Thanos battles (a suit the full power spiderman would have zero need for, but young spiderman certainly needs to keep up). Unfortunately for marvel both the Raimi and the "amazing" spiderman movies had touched on the young spiderman genre. As a result the MCU spiderman just feels like yet another half hearted reboot of the Raimi version. That said I like the kid playing spiderman, in the MCU movies, just don't think he's been given good standalone movies (MJ is awful, terrible casting and writing there).

[@TheLeftCulprit]

@@arizona_anime_fan To be fair, 'full power spider man' or adult Spider Man in his prime would still need the Iron Spider suit in Infinity War exactly when he gets it. The ship is breaking upper atmosphere and even the enhanced physicality from the spider isnt guna get him past that. He needs a supply of oxygen or he'll pass out just like everybody else. Aside from that point I agree with you 100%

[@Lummerbummer115]

I think the best portrayal of spiderman is from the SpiderMan PS4 game. Don't get me wrong, this is a great portrayal of Peter Parker and good portrayal of spiderman. The amazing Spiderman does a great version of spiderman, crap version of Peter Parker. And the MCU spiderman is a great portrayal of both... But the game is hands down the best version of both lives.

[@frosty8269]

Spider-Man 1 CGI has aged badly Spider-Man 2 CGI has aged gracefully, the mix of practical and CG blend well. Spider-Man 3 CGI is actually amazing.

[@bradporter8110]

spiderman 3 is underrated

[@whisperofthebookworm5341]

It honestly on par with Pirates of the Caribbean CGI. Which is some of the best in the industry. Even Marvels modern CGI doesn’t have the same care and attention to detail.

[@orsonlepherd7064]

I agree except with Spiderman 3. Almost everything was fake and digital, it was bad in 2007 and it's terrible now.

[@riatorex8722]

Honestly Spiderman 1 had some pretty groundbreaking CGI at the time. But yeah it didn’t age very well sadly

[@suda_lifts]

@@orsonlepherd7064 just look at the birth of sandman scene. That’s a good example on how good the cgi was. And even if it’s mostly all cgi. Still looks pretty good

[@rx-ym3cs]

Tobey Maguire was not just good, he is the best, he lived the character's life.

[@nyanffie9905]

"peter parker is punished for doing good." damn, this is why spider-man trilogy is my favorite.

[@rorschach5704]

"To this day, I'll never forget those words." "Pizza time."

[@landychapman3]

What about when he told Aunt May that he was there when Uncle Ben died? HARSH

[@katipunan4212]

@@landychapman3 pizza time

[@Menaceblue3]

Give me rent!

[@dhruvtyagi9249]

Not going to lie you had us at the first part

[@Emobullymaguire]

Gonna cry?

[@douggx10]

Funny how spider man 2 cgi "dont hold up" but still better than Black Panther cgi a 2018 movie

[@dimensionzone8048]

Well the movie didn't use all cgi though. Not including the swinging scenes, doc ocks claws and some of the fight movements and etc most are practical effects or fights at real locations.

[@shoesncheese]

To be fair, the CGI in Black Panther is great except for that one fight scene that looks like it was filmed for PS2.

[@misspriss2482]

Why bring up Black Panther specifically? Also, other than the end fight scene where Chadwick and Michael are both in panther suits, the CGI was great.

[@tiellimilin6622]

@@misspriss2482 the cgi wasn't great. The suit part was good because of the real suits

[@Soridan]

@@misspriss2482 because Black Panther is a modern movie with some notably bad CGI. Duh.

[@milliondoller06]

To be honest homecoming didn’t have that much emotional weight like the original trilogy had.

[@dimensionzone8048]

Well to be honest if you basing one movie on an entire trilogy instead of fairly dividing it be each movie own its own then your being a part problem instead of fixing it.

[@prufan]

How about comparing Homecoming against Spider-Man 1 only? It still is a poor version of the character by comparison. Homecoming offers me NOTHING that I can't get from every other Spider-Man film.

[@dimensionzone8048]

@@prufan I can make the same argument for each Riami movie with any form of media for Spiderman whether threw just cartoons and video games games alone. So that's a subjective POV to think a series just offers nothing for everyone instead of our own personal experience. I personally can list several things that each series has offered for me that one of the others didn't without looking with a bias on which series is better. But again its all on perspective.

[@prufan]

I said offers ME nothing I can't get from the other films. I wasn't talking about everyone else. Action/music/visuals/story and characters/tone, Raimi/TASM And even the PS4 Game have what Homecoming lacks. There's no reason to ever give Homecoming the time of day.

[@dimensionzone8048]

@@prufan I know which is why I acknowledged it was a matter of perspective since you have a right to an opinion even though mines heavily differ.

[@acepedro12]

You're telling me CGI that won an Oscar for Special Effects didn't age well?

[@LogeenthLive]

Just remember that Shark Tale got nominated for Best Animated Feature in 2004 when it had to deal with the likes of Shrek 2 and The Incredibles - so I don't blame his mentality, but I still liked Spider-Man 2's CGI

[@spookyspider2820]

the oscars are full of shit

[@andrewanderson1755]

Lol, thinking something is great just because it got an award is such a sheeple move. It was pretty good but the oscar has nothing to do with it

[@heartless604]

Moaning about cgi lets you know immediatly filmento doesnt have any real point or clue here lol.

[@blackSUAAAVE]

@@heartless604 - Excellent point, Thoughts. Bitching and moaning about the CGI. Oh, STHU. Just bask in the awesomeness of the train fight scene, and Spider stopping the same damn train by himself. And Doc Ock's arms really had a life of their own.

[@alexmontesino]

This movie has so much humanity that is impossible not to feel something, I cant even take the scene when Peter talks with aunt may about Ben's death and how because of him letting the criminal go away ends with his uncle's death, and all the scenes about them talking about life struggles, how bad the situation is and how they had to deal, that rips my heart every time I watch the movie, this is the only movie that explains why a hero is a hero, how a person can sacrifice everything for others, how he cares even loosing his powers is able to save the life of a child that was doomed in the building fires. His life struggles makes him understand people's pain and suffering, this movie is just perfect, I don't care about the CGI because the best of the movie was the acting and the script.

[@hiedemariebalundo5832]

160 hours of a comment for 16 likes

[@hiedemariebalundo5832]

160 hours of a comment for 16 likes

[@gamertag1014]

Little late But MCU fuckin massacred Aunt May's character like she dates happy are you saying aunt may the nicest old lady who can't get over Ben's death, now is in relationship MCU Aunt may is literally an eye candy when she should be the embodiment of wisdom in Peter's life

[@alexmontesino]

@@gamertag1014 100% true

[@FMRNathan]

What are u saying bro, the CGI on the Raimi Trillogy is pretty good even for today lol

[@spideriquemaniglesias2342]

The cgi of raimi spiderman trilogy is way better than most cgi of nowadays hollywood movies

[@phoenixero8161]

uh... no... rewatch it. I thought it looked pretty good too until i went back

[@slash.slayer]

Yeah, I don't know what this guy talked about at the beginning of the video lol

[@joeokeefe2771]

Better than black panther

[@enkiimuto1041]

Some scenes don't work, but I did find it funny he said that showing a scene that did work rolf.

[@MrDinko]

But the question is... Pizza time?

[@ginge641]

Pizza time! PIZZZZZAA TIIIIIME!!!

[@MrDinko]

​@@ginge641 Does whatever a PIZZA TIME does!

[@toxification]

EmperorDinko Yes pls :3

[@gabethebabe3337]

YOU RANG!

[@joaodorjmanolo]

Taking good stuff about Spiderman 2 = instant like.

[@mark-zuberrodrigues]

Filmento:- "Tobey Maguire is just ok and does do his job, not that he does any ground breakthrough in his performance. He just there !!!!!." Bully Macguire:- " Is that all you got, GONNA PUT SOME DIRT IN YOUR EYE."

[@naughtyskywalker9292]

Hm. I disagree on one point. A good story, villain's creation and motives, doesnt have to be linked to the protagonist for excellence. The protagonist can find himself pulled into a riveting plot. Brilliant analysis btw. Well done.

[@MasterCookies]

Sorry for late answer, yes, The protagonist can find himself pulled into a riveting plot. But protagonist that made his own problems and than dealt with them feels more.... Human, humans are making mistakes, out choices can backfire, thats what is great about Spider Man 2. He try's he fail's and he deals with conseqences.

[@whenthedustfallsaway]

This is not true. For a good story, the plot, characters, and theme must be intertwined. You can get away with a few instances of untied narrative, but the overarching elements must be tied together. A school kid having trouble with bullies pulled into a war against intergalactic aliens that take the form of loved ones will probably not work.

[@emanuelmaldoileacont8253]

Brilliant? You don t know what that means if u use it so easily

[@agentnacho2029]

"HiTop would like to know your location."

[@Chenso2099]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm Chocolate cake

[@dannybenhur6123]

And also HiTop's girlfriend who narrated the video...

[@steps8140]

That annoying fuck with a voice that is making you wanna punch the shit outta him?

[@rorschach5510]

@@steps8140 yeah.

[@steps8140]

@@rorschach5510 got it

[@chrisruff9540]

Poor tobey. He IS spiderman, in the hearts of a lot of people, including myself. I think he executes his role perfectly.

[@anirudhgupta2570]

he is a pretty bad actor, like he only has 2 or 3 expressions which he already uses, he is pretty bad in spider-man 1, but in 2 and 3 he is decent but nothing special, he has no flexibility when it comes to expressions and his acting, look at tom holland, he is perfect when it comes to portraying the spider-man character that he got to work with, he executes emotional moments well, the fun moments well, the angry moments well, the same can be said for andrew garfield, but tobey aint that good, he is just average

[@curryis828]

@@anirudhgupta2570bozo

[@anirudhgupta2570]

@@curryis828 wow what an argument

[@forelamp6873]

​@@anirudhgupta2570 watch brothers.

[@zeruelagameplays]

This movie is so remarkable in my life that I always cry watching it. even being goofy sometimes, i get invested from beginning to the end

[@Gio-ym4uj]

"Tobey Macquigre is OK." Proceeds to tell us how Tobey did an amazing job as Peter Parker.

[@bulge2882]

Who the hell is Macquigre?

[@bulge2882]

Don't worry bro It's Maguire

[@stev6963]

Lmao Maquigre sounds like it would be a Spanish name.

[@sxlrac_barlos3392]

he really didn’t do as good as andrew tho. i love tobey tho don’t get me wrong but his performance was ok

[@curryis828]

@@sxlrac_barlos3392 sorry buddy but Andrew tasm movies was meh and has no substance

[@mogumogu_ogayu]

I like how when Peter jumps from the building, he says "I'm back". Then the next that happened is him talking in pain saying "My back". That's clever comedy writing if you ask me.

[@whisperofthebookworm5341]

Not only that, he nearly couldn’t return to the role of Spider-Man after the first. Because he injured his back!

[@MariOmor1]

Now his back is fixed

[@ginge641]

Well, when he saves the train, he gets the respect of those he saved. They all see his face and none reveal this to anyone else. They care for their hero and attempt to protect him when Otto arrives. Edit: Jesus Christ, this is probably one of the least substantive comments I've ever made. It's thin sentiment with poor wording and zero competent argumentation. Really doesn't deserve all these likes.

[@MrParkerman6]

How do you know? Did you follow them around and make sure they didn't tell anyone?

[@shoesncheese]

@@MrParkerman6 I did and I can confirm that they didn't tell anyone. Edit: one person told their therapist, but that was protected by doctor-patient confidentiality so I didn't think it counted.

[@jacobswiney9977]

@@MrParkerman6 douche

[@Dreadjaws]

I mean, it's not like they _could_ tell anyone. Back then not everyone had a cellphone with camera, and Peter Parker is not a famous person. What are they going to say? _"Dude, Spider-Man is really... some white kid with dark hair"?_

[@LogeenthLive]

@@Dreadjaws >basically the aftercredits scene of Far From Home

[@AndySomething]

What about Lord of the Rings? That's a film remembered because of great protagonists. The main villain in LotR is a floating eyeball.

[@TheInstaShark]

Frodo and Sam get a pretty shitty hand. Dunno about the others, though.

[@moanguspickard249]

The ring is the true antagonist, and frodo is the protagonist that gets punished for his choice of carrying the ring.

[@kapetanyakinthos3460]

@@moanguspickard249 Actually Sam is the real protagonist stated by Tolkien himself

[@louis-stephane1391]

@@kapetanyakinthos3460 The hero of the story. Not the same

[@Ray03595]

@@kapetanyakinthos3460 Tolkien called Sam the most heroic character. This isn't the same as being the protagonist. It is definitely still Frodo. Also, I never think Frodo ever gets the proper credit for being the ring bearer.

[@VestingKnight10]

Maguires Peter was sympathetic, you felt bad for him which is what Peter is supposed to be... Human. Hollands Peter literally gets everything handed to him, and when he solves a problem he immediately gets rewarded by getting everything he wanted. But when Maguires Peter gets his problem solved he gets some type of reward and yet there's still something wrong in the back of your mind... Hes human and that's how life works. NO WAY HOME: Almost everything was perfect and except one scene annoyed me. The highway fight scene with Molina and Holland. We could've seen an amazing fight with both of them but once again, Starks Nanotech saves the day.

[@fevierenie671]

WELL, ACTUALLY, Holland's Parker still suffered for making the right choice. He tried to stop weapon dealers, but almost killed a bunch of people. He tried to fix it, but without Iron Man's help, he would have failed. He gave up his date to stop bad guys, but only almost got killed. I liked both actors as SM, and I don't really get why Holland gets so much shit for his version.

[@dixonb.tweenerlegs4225]

@@fevierenie671 Yeah, but it always worked out just perfectly fine in that movie. There was no lasting consequence. When ever he was in trouble, he was bailed out easily and it was like nothing ever went wrong to begin with. Like, for example, the restaurant getting messed up in the beginning. A friend of Peter's lively hood was destroyed because of Spider-Man fighting robbers, but it's never mentioned again after that. There's no weight to it. The movie is just like, "yeah, fuck that guy lets finish the movie". The only bad thing that happens to Peter is that he lost his puppy love crush, but it's all good because he obviously has another girl waiting for him who conveniently and obviously likes him already without having any real interaction with him. Out of all the Spider-Men, Tom Holland's had the easiest life so far. And he rarely gets shit compared to amount of people who overrate the character. Tom Holland's Spider-Man is treated as the Jesus Christ of all Spider-Men. He gets no where near as much shit as Tobey and Andrew.

[@bradporter8110]

@@fevierenie671 where the hell did you get "tom holland gets so much shit for his version"? literally in every positive tobey maguire review video 40% of the comment section has tom holland fanboys mostly repeating the same shit like "blinded by nostalgia" or "more comic book accurate" and when there's a postive tom holland review video everyone treats him like the holy grail of spiderman films. Also not to mention that the same raimi trilogy was getting hate even before homecoming released (people preferring TASM over the trilogy) I know its all opinionated but it just annoys me when someone thinks the sam raimi trilogy is overrated when its clearly being slowly forgotten by the new generation of kids

[@3Rayfire]

@@dixonb.tweenerlegs4225 Even then though Peter not only lost Liz but also had to understand that because he did the right thing, he not only lost her but tore apart her family. Peter is a person of conscience, you know that's not anywhere near the outcome that he wanted. There's also a matter of his age. One thing between the original comics and Tobey's version that's synchronous is that he graduates to the real world relatively quickly in the narrative after getting his powers. Tom's Pete is actually still in high school. He's not at that point where he's going to be homeless because he can't hold down a job. He's not at the point where he's going to have the lasting consequences. Though Far from Home gave him plenty of consequences. And for all that he gets "handed" to him, he's also handed lots of bad shit. While he does basically get upgraded by Tony Stark, when Tony does, Peter also inherits plenty of Tony's enemies. And the Peter with the easiest life is Peter B. Parker in Spider-Verse everybody knows that.

[@dixonb.tweenerlegs4225]

@@3Rayfire Everything he gets handed to him dwarfs any problem he's met in his movies so far. He has a multibillion dollar weaponry up the ass and has access to a drone army from space. Tony gave Peter more than enough in his arsenal to make the majority of Spider-Man's villains in his teen years fodder. Nobody should be a threat to Peter anymore. All this shit Iron Man gave him, he's soloing the Sinister 6 in their first fight without a sweat. They would have to rely on bad writing to survive. Edit: He also only inherited the weakest of Tony's enemies that his tech should be able to handle with little problem. Why can't Spider-Man have villains of his own anyway? Vulture, Mysterio and Spider-Man himself never gave a fuck about Iron Man in the comics, but the MCU has Tony Stark's signature written all over the Spider-Man brand for what? Just to try and convince Sony to give him up? Lmfao

[@diagonxx1866]

Toby is always gonna be my spiderman.

[@jaythomas3224]

The greatest film critic of all time the late great Roger Ebert said Spider man 2 was the best comic book movie he ever seen

[@jasminecrawford42]

Ebert, who is one of the few critics I genuinely respect, is usually pretty on point.

[@ahmedfawad16]

spiderman 2 is and always will be the best

[@melvinsamson5684]

He wasn't wrong

[@TheRealRiptide01]

He wasn’t wrong still to this day

[@anirudhgupta2570]

he only got to watch superhero films till 2013

[@Franco98k]

For me the cgi stil looks great

[@spideriquemaniglesias2342]

Totally agree spiderman 2 has great cgi the cgi of spiderman 2 is way better than most cgi of nowadays hollywood movies

[@spideriquemaniglesias2342]

@Chi Wing LEE spiderman 2 is the best superhero movie for me because spiderman 2 has everything that should be in a superhero movie

[@Franco98k]

Chi Wing LEE true

[@brandonwilson4281]

💴💰🔫🏃💑

[@Scroteydada]

It's unconvincing but the cinematography makes me not care in the slightest.

[@_SMEAR_]

6:55 "Spends last of his strength to save a trainload of people. Reward?" I think you missed it big time here pal. THIS IS the moment he finally got the recognition he deserves despite it being limited to the capacity of that train. He was saved from falling to his death by the very people he's risking his life protecting this whole time. Him being carried to the back of the train and getting appreciated is one of the best feelings someone can have, especially the part where the people of New York stood up to Doc Ock. This was his first real break, the scene with the cake is let's say a step in the right direction for him. Now if the people let him fall to the water then yea, life is technically beating a dead horse at that point lol. Good vid nonetheless.

[@jannegrey]

He gets rewarded and then is beaten. Yes there is some Katharsis because of Recognition, but it is so short lived that it ALMOST doesn't matter. It makes you feel good, just to smack you back down.

[@johnarvirviray5236]

This comment is underrated indeed

[@whisperofthebookworm5341]

It’s like he doesn’t understand what the movie is trying to get across. Peter is a hero, not for himself, but for others. With great power comes great responsibility.

[@bikkyychaudhry4510]

I still remember how hyped I was for this movie. Oh the childhood memories.

[@atribecalledlen3567]

Bikkyy Chaudhry summer of 2004 had the best movies out. Spider-Man 2, Shrek 2, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, etc. lmao it was great being a 6 year old

[@superioricebear2975]

I can relate to Peter in this film it’s why I love this film being hated for doing the right thing is my stick so to speak. But no matter how many times people beat me down I never give up and I think this film has helped me get this mentality from the aunt May speech “I believe there’s a hero in all of us that kept us honest gives us strength keeps us noble and finally allows us to die with pride even though sometimes we have to be steady and give up the thing we want the most ever our dreams.”

[@cadethumann8605]

About the whole reactive protagonist vs active protagonist, I've heard that it is ok to have a protagonist initially reactive but eventually becomes active.

[@hunterlawrence3573]

That's what many stories do. Luke Skywalker, for instance, only reacts to other's decisions or does what other people tell him do until the scene where they find out Leia is a prisoner onboard the Death Star. Then he makes his first proactive decision.

[@georgezombie]

Man, you made me realize how much I care for this Peter Parker that I got teary-eyed! A great fictional character can inspire us all. Thanks for this video.

[@ThomasdWell]

I'll give you Paul knows how to cry, but I wouldn't call "Little Miss Sunshine." him being a whiny baby. Its the appropriate reacting to finding out no matter how devoted to a goal you are, he still wouldn't get to be a pilot,(or whatever being color blind hinders) I feel we've all had that reaction to stuff out of our control despite our best efforts.

[@The.1.0.1.]

Who’s Paul? 😂

[@HolySpicoli]

Those shots at him are totally uncalled for especially since he’s not the protagonist in those movies making the comparison weak

[@Alpha-bt9bh]

Paul Dano freaking rocks. Filmento doesn’t know what he’s talking about lmao

[@shubo4478]

“Sometimes... to be steady, you gotta give up the thing you want the most. Even our dreams” Nothing in the MCU will be better than these films. Nothing

[@BSJINTHEHOUSE420]

Shubro64 Disagree, but each to their own.

[@shubo4478]

laz kar except one is said by a big purple creation of cgi and the other is said by a person who we have seen constantly fail and so he is far more relatable than a genocide alien

[@agentnacho2029]

@@FrightRdr Not nostalgia. MCU is generic trash.

[@tobleronetube3686]

Nah, MCU all day.

[@whodatninja439]

No action scene in the entire mcu is better than the train fight

[@xyryljapanjapan9069]

“He’s just a kid...” Tobey Will always be the best spiderman.

[@getsinged7631]

Tobey Macguire was easily the actor most true to Peter Parker, he was someone I could really imagine being a bullied geek in school with a kind heart to become a great hero. Tom Holland is a great Spiderman for the MCU because he fits the slightly more jokey tone of the MCU well, I'm not sure I really see his character as being a bullied kid though. Whoever the other Spiderman actor was was the worst portrayal of Peter Parker imo, his character seemed like the exact opposite of Peter Parker, like he was the cool kid and nothing ever went wrong for him.

[@everythingisawesome2903]

Andrew Garfield. Yes, he was the worst Peter Parker, more like a jock than a nerd.

[@futabafanclub]

@@everythingisawesome2903 That’s… Debatable. But he gets redeemed though in No Way Home though so it’s good. Besides, Andrew did great with what he was given.

[@georgeskate78]

Take the skateboarding away I’d say he was the most accurate Peter Parker/Spider-Man. Quippy, selfish, scheming but romantic and loyal. It’s just a shame the films themselves weren’t that great

[@tskmaster3837]

The true nature of the character Spider-man only comes out when you the reader/viewer compares how the cast treats Spider-man versus how they treat Peter Parker. For some reason, this is the only Spider-man movie series that realizes this, that public loves Spider-man while the world hates Peter Parker with JJJ putting this in reverse as he hates Spider-man but respects the hell out of Peter. Far From Home may be able to cross the gap BUT as more people learn Peter is Spider-man, the more his entire core concept gets eroded. At the end of that movie, the MCU may as well finish the job of turning him into Tony Stark 2.0. The Amazing ones forgot to add most of the supporting cast entirely and by the time they tried to add more characters in 2, it was too late.

[@bradporter8110]

far from home has no emotional depth like spiderman 2 and i have no idea why the directors decided to make peter known to the entire world that he's spiderman it was a really bad decision especially this early into the movie

[@kake2978]

@@bradporter8110 ikr, they’re turning him into iron man, first his sidekick now him 😭

[@berengustav7714]

@@kake2978 hehehe,Holland is Spiderman now!

[@charlespuruncajas9663]

That’s why TASM movies didn’t worked at all: Peter was a cool guy, not an innocent or kind teen, he was a jock that even uses a skateboard. No character arc or real change at the end of both movies. Raimi’s Spiderman fulfilled that aspect

[@ahmedfawad16]

nah disagree with ya there. I prefer Raimi trilogy over every other live-action Spider-Man, but I think people don't give enough credit to TASM. It was flawed, but people like to pretend it has little to no redeeming qualities. Peter wasn't a 'jock', that's just a gross exaggeration. The way his character was in those movies was essentially the result of Sony wanting a 'realistic' teenager. And minus the skateboarding, I think he is easily one of the best teenager adaptations we've gotten, albeit maybe not a great Peter Parker adaptation. He does have arcs in both movies, especially the first one, his arc is really good.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

Good job, you completely missed the point of Amazing Spider-Man, the whole point of that was how a jerk “cool” kid become a better and good person as Spider-Man

[@whenthedustfallsaway]

@@Gadget-Walkmen It was poorly written, so its not like the point was made very well.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

@@whenthedustfallsaway I’m not saying the movie is was the best of all time, it wasn’t. But it wasn’t as “poorly written” as some people make it out to be. It’s not. Its really not. It’s flawed but overall the first movie is pretty solid and good starting point. The second movie though is an abomination and easily the worst Spider-Man movie by far.

[@drlakshanasharma3862]

In school we were shown Spider-Man 2 and had to write a character study on Peter Parker and his life. Thanks to your video I scored highest in the class!

[@persey7241]

Damn, mate, I never had such interesting assignments in school!

[@jojobizarrelivingstone594]

Noice

[@everythingisawesome2903]

Coolest school ever

[@martindelira5014]

He is the definition of "With Great Power Comes With Great Responsibility."

[@jeeannguibone1678]

Love your analyses and breakdowns! This trilogy will always have a special place in my heart & this Spidey will always be my favorite version just because he was a hero who was struggling to pay rent, carried so much guilt over the death of his uncle & his best friend's dad, couldn't catch a break, didn't have a lot of recognition for his sacrifices and saving people for most of the series. He was a hero who really didn't have it made.

[@josephcollinst.v5536]

I like your video and respect it, but I think that most of the CGI still holds up. I think it’s better than the cgi in the 1st and 3rd.

[@jdmr1c3ing]

Not better than the 3rd but way better than the 1st.

[@josephcollinst.v5536]

JDM racing have you seen the third? It’s honestly really bad

[@IcePhysicsGaming]

Honestly, the only CGI of the trilogy that I can recall not looking good are the parade float balloons Spider-Man jumps on in the 1st one.

[@josephcollinst.v5536]

IcePhysics or when he swings on the light pole into the fire building

[@josephcollinst.v5536]

I’m gonna put some dirt in your eye I guess I need to watch it again

[@markbilotta3882]

I am so glad that these movies are experiencing some sort of renaissance on the internet. The first two Sam Raimi films are among the best comic book movies ever. There are good movies, and then there are amazing movies: Spiderman and Spiderman 2 are just that, amazing

[@whisperofthebookworm5341]

Rewatching 3, although it isn’t on par with 2, is just as good as the first. It just got a bad rap because Peter becomes a villain. Which is what the movie was trying to show, that anyone can be overcome with pride.

[@ivancerecer5758]

This reminds me of "Into the Spider-Verse" when MJ says; "Peter didnt choose to get his powers, but he chose to be Spider-Man"

[@LeFroge]

2 years late watching this video, but I’m so happy others respect this trilogy as much as I do. I always tell people given the opportunity that this is the best movie(s) that I’ve ever seen - my example of a perfect movie. At first people are like, “yeah right! No.” But I try to explain my point on how the journey with this character, how it follows his whole life, both boring and exciting, is the thing we’re missing in so many new movies. The corny lines, the dramatic camera work and grandiose storytelling....just, everything. I love these movies so much I will watch them whenever I’m able, and enjoy it equally every time. I don’t know. These are just my favorite movies of all time and that’s just it! Brings out my inner kid regardless of time. Long live Spider-Man!

[@krookyj]

"The CGI doesn't hold up today" Funny that you mention that. Doc Oc's arms were actually entirely practical.

[@ahmedfawad16]

and let's not forget the gorgeous scene in spider-man 3 where sandman forms for the first time

[@HolySpicoli]

Bro even Alfred Molina’s face is cgi in those fight scenes

[@MorganLeodeMenezes]

Plus don't forget spiderman 2 got oscar for visual effects 🥰

[@nope5657]

No, they were not entirely practical at all.

[@remusorchora2827]

Not in every scene

[@cyclopsjrg]

14 views and 14 likes. That’s pretty good.

[@phylypdecuk7815]

Perfectly balanced.

[@davidchavez776]

Phylyp Dečuk As it all should be

[@joserafael9913]

PIPO

[@dragonking184]

I mean with the nuclear reactor scene. With or without the “choice” or doc. Oc having the power to stabilize it, the audience already knows he will try his absolute hardest to stop it because by this point it would be a betrayal to the character if he were to say “welp, I’m gonna save my peg behind. You guys can deal with that” and then swing off. In my opinion, heroes and villains should be both proactive and reactive. It should be like a seesaw or those wrecking balls thins that you see on a businessman’s desk. Hero does something to the villain who reacts by doing something back to him, you know... like how a real fight works.

[@NurseGundam]

The wrecking ball things are called Newton's cradle btw

[@dragonking184]

Canoness Snow learn something new every day haha thanks lol

[@NurseGundam]

@@dragonking184 No problem! Took me years to finally find the name for those things when I was younger lol. I hope you have a wonderful day!

[@superstag]

I disagree with the plot being mediocre. Because it is not. It is SIMPLE at it's best. The struggles of a college going superhero balancing both sides of his identity.

[@TerceroIV]

Peter is punished for doing good, and that's a pristine reflection of the world we live in today, where no good deed goes unpunished. I think most of us have been there and become a slightly worse human being after being punched in the face for being good towards others. That's what makes this Peter so easy to relate to.

[@sadgirlhours4088]

Nah. Nah nah nah. The train scene is not peter getting punished, that train scene is 100% him getting rewarded. It's the first time in the movie where New York isnt kicking his ass. The people on that train see who his is, pretend they didnt. They then actually stand against doc oc, a guy with 4 metal arms that can break concrete and throw cars. It's such a satisfying scene because he finally gets paid off for every good thing hes done. The dialogue is very sweet as well

[@GMMReviews]

*Video is about Spider-man 2* *Thumbnail from Spider-man 3* ...ok...

[@tennisawareness3404]

GMMReviews hang on To what!

[@gaspy9760]

I don't want to say that I missed you but I did

[@Filmento]

Can always count on yo to show up!

[@GeoffreyGonzales]

good boy

[@JamesOnen]

The only movie I watched twice in the theater.

[@superpe]

The montage of Peter's struggles, along with jet's some hold on was fantastic powerful scene

[@anomienormie8126]

I think Tobey Maguire has a sort of “pathetic” face that’s perfect for this Spiderman. He can look downright pitiful.

[@WhatInTarnation123]

‘The Revenant’ would’ve been a great example for most of your points in this video

[@thecrazyslopoke]

God I forgot how much I loved Prisoners. Such a good movie. Oh also, you know... Good video.

[@ThatOneDude521]

Green Goblin literally predicted Spider-Man 2 “In spite of everything you’ve done for them, eventually they will hate you.” I know that was in the first movie, but the only proof we saw of that quote holding weight was the “Citizens Call for Wall-Crawler’s Arrest” article and that was it. This entire movie, though, is defined by that quote. Peter does good 100% of the time and is punished for it no matter what. Idk why but this aspect has always been so profound for me.

[@OmnerLopezVillalobos]

Dude! I think this points are not only for building a memorable hero, but a life lesson! Being a consistent active protagonist of our own lives and when we get unfairly punished dont be a whiny little baby! Amazing!

[@stacylewis2055]

I'm not a comic book fan, but I caught this film in theaters because the trailer looked good and it was well worth it! The hero was fine but Alfred Molina as Doc Ock was superb! A truly intelligent and morally ambiguous villain is a hard target to hit but can confirm the authenticity of the hero.

[@CrawfordPrime]

Spider-Man 2 has always been my favourite Spider-Man movie because of how realistic it is and as a young man in his 20’s living alone it now feels sooooooooooo relatable lmaoo

[@JoseSilva-wv2sh]

Spider-man punching thru that paper was one of the best scenes in comic book movies ever

[@nagamata]

I've always held Peter Parker/Spider-Man to be the very embodiment of the whole "heart in conflict" idea, and it's why I think the Tom Holland movies have done so well on the character. Anyone who has read the comics knows that, basically, it's all about this dude's life as a ceaseless train wreck of ridiculously hard choices that get torn between his dual identities; all the while, he has a flawed heart of gold, which always sits in the middle of what he wants(or doesn't) and what is needed. My love for Spider-Man is not unique, but I almost get emotional thinking about the ways he's inspired me as both a kid, as an adult, across all platforms.

[@spider-man500]

I feel like that Spider-Man is a very unique protagonist, even amongst other iconic protagonist like Batman etc..

[@artinacart8035]

6:10-6:50 Was really hoping you'd put in Norman Osborn saying "FIRST, WE ATTACK HIS HEART"

[@netizen6958]

Not only the protagonist, the supporting roles are memorable in this movie. J. Jonah Jameson, May Parker, Mr. Ditkovich and his daughter. Too many.

[@Gamerkid124]

Honestly, the train scene remains one of the best scenes ever in superhero movies to date

[@dragonskunkstudio7582]

I'm taking notes. As I write this I realize my hero character is a bit too passive. I'm learning all I can to make my show "The Zen" the most amazing sci-fi show ever made by one man and some really talented voice actors too. I just need more subscribers.

[@iliveinsideyourhouse1367]

With that weird furry with big tits animation you making, i dont think your dream will come true.

[@RobertBelko]

@@iliveinsideyourhouse1367 lmao what the fuck

[@pampazapp4169]

This is by far the most useful video you made. I love it so much, I could take notes every second of this

[@leofera1137]

I remember seeing on the extras that 14:12 that was performed by a stunt double and even when he’s struggling on the ground it’s hard to tell a difference

[@ShinkuGouki]

I watched these 3 Spider Man movies again and they still hold up greatly in late 2020. 3 was good but I get why people like that one less.

[@syferz]

Making Peter more active in the situations you describe would have hurt Otto's character, Otto is a tragic character who redeems himself. If Peter had been the reason that Otto lost control of himself, been the reason Otto's Wife died, or caused the experiment to go haywire when Otto still might have been able to control it, well, it would have destroyed this story. Peter meets Otto before the experiment, he sees himself in Otto, and Otto has no one to blame but himself, so at the end of the film when he learns Spider-Man is Peter, he doesn't see his enemy that caused all those things to happen to Otto... He sees someone who gives Otto a choice, that is why Otto says "I will not die a monster" He had the agency to change, and Spider-Man/Peter was able to "Save" Otto from himself. That cannot happen if Peter had more agency over those points in the story, it had to play out where Otto was his own Villian, just like how all the negative things happen to Peter because he chooses to be Spider-Man, all those things happen to Otto because he chooses his Ego, until Peter asks him to make a different choice near the end of the film, Peter is the hero that Otto needs, it's not Spider-Man who saves Otto at the end, it's Peter reaching Otto. That is why the film is the best in the genre, because Peter is a Hero, not just Spider-Man.

[@Zealwind]

You're on point. Not all have to be interconnected.

[@tan_tama1354]

What I love about Tobey's Peter Parker that's because I can relate to him. He portrayed an introvert accurately. In this movie, Peter is awkward, rigid, and genius but not easy to be understand by people. He has difficulties to explain what he feels, he also feels very rigid when talk to someone (except Harry). Sometimes, his words feels cheesy and weird like "Punch me, I bleed!". I feel like he's not so different from me. As an introvert, I can say I'm going to be really awkward and rigid if I interact with people (not my closest friends). It's also often happen to me when my family totally not understand what I'm talking about. Peter is quite an observant person and so am I. As a man, Peter is really gentle person. If you say that his character is unreal or makes him like a wimp, crybaby, or even a wanker. I can say you're wrong, because I ever meet a guy like Peter once and they're almost the same. He never raises his voice or I even think he can't be angry. He is a gentle and patient man. He is very polite, he works in a company, and he lives alone far from his family. What I think now is I don't really understand the characterization of Andrew's & Tom's Peter Parker. Is there someone want to explain it to me?

[@ariahazelwood3842]

8:38 *dead men tell no tales jack sparrow slowly materializes in background*

[@kaksspl]

Actually Homecoming shows that a little bit of giving up and showing human weaknesses can strengthen later picking yourself up. Once when Tony takes away Peter's suit and he feels like being a hero ended for him before he chooses to use his underpowered old suit anyway, but also way more prominently when he's pinned down by rubble and he literally cries for help because he doesn't think he can pick himself up any more. But he does.

[@darkprince3474]

The MCU did the same to THOR. They completely broke him.Now he is my second favorite avenger after Ironman

[@timy9197]

Agreed

[@MachineFuckingHate]

It's too bad that, instead of making Thor a heartfelt and emotional character, they made him a joke machine.

[@darkprince3474]

@@MachineFuckingHate people often tend to be funny when they are most sad .Its their way out of the pain and sadness. You can tell about his passion and heart when he talks to Rocket in infinity war before going to get his axe.

[@darkprince3474]

@@MachineFuckingHate In Ragnarok I think they overdid joke sometimes but in infinity war they got him right. A demigod who doesn't hesitate to take the power of a star even if it can kill him

[@rainmaker2338]

@@MachineFuckingHate how exactly is Thor not a heartfelt and emotional character? He literally just lost his dad, best friend, brother, mom, and fucking planet and now he has to deal with being partly responsible for half the universe being wiped out. But sure, JoKeS

[@deshaunbaker2220]

I disagree with your view of reactive and active characters in which there should be be a balance that leans back and forth depending on the character's situation and motivation. Other than that, good video.

[@soniachristine9450]

I couldn’t stop thinking about Daredevil as I watched this. Matt Murdock is so compelling to watch mostly because of the same reasons you listed here (specially in season 3). Also, Spider Man 2 and that train scene are always going to be iconic.

[@schattentaenzerin]

Still my favorite Superhero movie. A lot of people get really worked up about Peter being a crybaby. But seeing what life throws at him, I get it. I feel it. Why should he not cry? Because he's a hero? Because he's male? He's human and so are his reactions. And while this trilogy may be a bit campy it's also just so memorable and quotable. I don't remember any line from the Amazing Spider-Man movies. But "You'll get your rent when you fix this damn door!!!!“ :D

[@Ahalaya]

I do have to argue about the constant active protagonist idea. A rare scene of reactivity is more realistic, I think. You have to remember you're not building a sollipsistic world (usually). Other characters have agency, as well.

[@datguyuno98]

That Prisoners joke hit hard and I don't know why XD

[@NoeLPZC]

I feel like rule 1 is a bit removed. Like, the rule should be to make your audience emotionally invest in the character, and beating them up to evoke sympathy is just one of many ways to do that. This is less the rules of creating a good protagonist and more the cheat sheet for creating one.

[@peynnep6483]

punishment have been used so much the movie/serie might aswell be dropped by the time that step is executed

[@h3ll_here]

the reason why i didn't do my homework is spider-man

[@edmontonboy99]

The reason why I got grounded for not getting home in time before dinner is because of being Spider-Man.

[@jku9936]

8:23 Not so incidentally, this is why Shinji Ikari is known for being a whiny character, even by members of the NGE fandom.

[@Varun_79]

There are two types of story telling. Character driven example (Spiderman 1&2) Plot driven example (Infinity war)

[@MrPirateking619]

Poor CGI r u serious spiderman 2 had one of the best CGI the CGI of venom from spiderman 3 is 1000x better than the CGI of venom 2018 even though the movies r like 10 years apart arms of doc oc were done amazingly the fight scene btw spiderman and doc oc in the bank was done amazingly even the train scene wat more do u want?

[@spideriquemaniglesias2342]

Agree with you spiderman 2 has great cgi the cgi of spiderman 2 is way better than most cgi of nowadays hollywood movies

[@MrPirateking619]

@Zane Drake R u serious? the CGI of spiderman 1 still holds upto this day go watch Venom look how bad the CGI is of that movie

[@TrufanNW]

@Zane Drake This is like the third comment from you I've seen saying the amazing films cgi is better and I have to respectfully disagree.

[@bradporter8110]

venom (2018) looks like liquid plastic to me

[@yourfatboy5359]

@@TrufanNW explain.....compare the web swinging from tasm films and the sam rami ones

[@shubo4478]

“Brilliant but lazy”

[@BobPantsSpongeSquare97]

Pretty much me

[@bapabs]

meirl

[@arseniojohnsonrulez6734]

Me too

[@lemonzazz122]

No

[@jalapeno.biznaus5752]

Perfect way to describe Garfields spiderman

[@redwaldcuthberting7195]

CG shot at 1:15 still looks pretty good IMO

[@fexbio]

You could also add that all these traits amount to this character being the most faithful to the original concept of the character, and why Spiderman was such a success early on. While most heroes were posing brooding Captain Perfects, Peter was the nerd orphan who was bullied at school. The reason a good villains is what makes a good hero is that the later is measured by its capacity to surpass hardships and challenges, which the former usually embody. But Peter has to fight not only with a solid real person that represents his difficulty, but also his only inadequacies, including the price he pays for having these powers. He carries the weight of his responsabilities to the extreme. Having powers is not a thing of distinction and pride, but a burden. He doesn't go to a press conference and says: I'm Spiderman! He have to protect his loved ones - and even then they're always in danger anyway. This formula was tested before and it works. No other cinematic representation of Spiderman captures this feature, which I feel is paramount to the character essence. Spiderman is not only human, he is common. A John Doe who got powers. And not only this, he's a hero in its essence. Because, for him, being a hero is hard on itself; it not only has the often agregious challenges of being a superhuman, it takes his life apart, and he does it anyway. Even if it makes him feel overburden. How is that not relatable?

[@tujaun1]

At 9:25 you said “falling” as Peter fell,which the song “raindrops falling on my head” playing during that scene also said falling lol