The Makers of Homeworld Have an Upcoming Strategy Roguelite! - EARTHLESS

[@gringo533]

Homeworld still holds a very special place in my heart.

[@christophersteen1873]

I was always shit at it, but the lets play videos are just amazing.

[@ikmor]

​@@christophersteen1873 Exactly this!

[@admiralhalo7293]

​@@christophersteen1873never bit it myself I got like half way but one day I'll beat it

[@phlanxsmurf]

Easily the best game reviewer on the tube, much appreciated.

[@IIISentorIII]

The dude has the overall IQ of a snail though!

[@rizzy11111]

I think that directional shielding would go against the battle philosophy of the game: I think the game is designed to have quick battles so you can advance through the Slay the Spire map. If all battles take 30 min instead of 10 min, the roguelike aspect (play, die, upgrade, repeat) will not be achievable. At least that's the way I understand the game

[@PreacherManX]

Homeworld will forever be my fav strat. Can not wait to play HW3. So excited.

[@Acidicstudios]

The makers of Homeworld made a game that's nothing like Homeworld, amazing.

[@happyninja42]

You had me at "The makers of Homeworld" *slides into the spot next to you on the bench* "mmmmmmgoooo oooooon"

[@CarbonOtter]

Three categories: Indie, for independently funded project teams. AAA or Produced, for games paid for by a production firm (like Sony, Microsoft, EA) and thusly the game design is influenced by them. Finally a new one I use-Classic Dev, for developers taking the classic investment and loan route for funding but running a AAA-grade studio as things were done in the golden age of PC gaming circa 1999. This studio falls into this category.

[@CowCommando]

I usually call them AA developers, the people between AAA and Indie.

[@Reidang]

AAAndie

[@Cuthawolf]

Yeah that last fight totally sold me. It looked neat to me, but it was the final fight that really made me want it.

[@HidForHG]

Ikr! Those last two are the true meat and potatoes of the game. It makes sense though that the earlier fights as VASTLY weaker tho. You need that build up and leveling up or have NO chance. Unfortunate but that's just how these are. Hopefully they can add more diverse types. Along maybe a few more interactions and mechanics. To spice it up and make it more interesting overall. Though only having to do like a handful of shitty fights to get to a few decent ones is much better than many in this type of game. Hopefully permanent progression helps with speeding up making the start more interesting. Kind of like Dead Cells.

[@nmavrantzas]

All hail Splat, bringer of indie-adjacent games :D

[@AmbientSounds205]

Rogue like deckbuilder is the new genre with so much potential!

[@mr.q8240]

first release of slay the spire was 2017 in EA so not new

[@GameTimeWhy]

​@@mr.q8240well slay the spire was kind of a one off for a long time.

[@mr.q8240]

@@GameTimeWhy yeah 3 years later Monster Train released(2020 3 years ago) ... still not new there are one of my favorite gerne... i agreed there a where a niche but still not new my points still stands

[@GameTimeWhy]

@@mr.q8240 it is new in the sense that we had almost no options for this type of game until recently.

[@mr.q8240]

@@GameTimeWhy i only agree that we had not really many good ones but there are and was more than enough .... yeah they not exploded like the bullet heaven..... just a few after one quick google search ( first resulte) still some missing from my own steam library iam too lazy to look up Dream Quest (2014) Hand of Fate (2015) Hand of Fate 2 (2017) Night of the Full Moon (2017) Slay the Spire (2019) Nowhere Prophet (2019) The Legend of Bum-bo (2019) Dicey Dungeons (2019) Monster Train (2020) One Step From Eden (2020) Signs of the Sojourner (2020) Griftlands (2021) Inscryption (2021) Luck Be a Landlord (2023) Tainted Grail: Conquest (2021) Trials of Fire (2021) Wildfrost (2023) just because you discovered it after it iron out its core mechanics does not mean it is new particularly after slay the spire made it mainstream-ish... you are just late to the party... and there are still a niche somewhat.. if still think there are new let agreed to disagreed

[@somedudeok1451]

During that last boss it looked like you didn't realize that you have to destroy the turrets to keep him out of his shell and vulnerable. Looks like it could be a cool game. Not sold on it, but I see potential.

[@zentek777]

Maker(s) of Homeworld? Someone that worked as the janitor in the office more likely.

[@winnie8614]

So true!

[@winnie8614]

I guess that's reference to Blackbird Interactive, but that's different teams inside that Co. But main ship's design really looks homewrld-ish.

[@bennymountain1]

That's how it always is, lmao. Either that, or same studio with none of the same people 😂

[@Mtaalas]

That map has the coolest effect ever.. I've seen all kinds of demo scene effects and stuff over the years, but that's just "COOL!"... I hope who ever came up with that and whoever made it to work is very proud of themselves... i mean it's just cool! :)

[@Atomize6]

I've always liked the look of Cassette Futurism , Liking the look of this game, too. Thanks for letting me know about it.

[@bradmoshenko7733]

very cool use of shipbreaker art

[@JimCosmano]

Thank you for reminding me of that (honestly awesome) ASCII Star Trek game from back in the day! It was so fun.

[@masterofgreymog5751]

Man, there were *so* many tooltips in that last fight that he just straight up didn't read. He could've finished that fight a whole 3 turns earlier I reckon. Still, good demonstration. Much fun.

[@RaDeus87]

They better add a Heinlein class later on, can't just have two of the Big Three and leave the last one out😅

[@DrBunnyMedicinal]

*Bradbury Harrumphs! snippily* 😁

[@HidForHG]

EXACTLY! Maybe in another faction? Or As the game develops I wouldn't be surprised if they add more ships per faction. Like FTL. Heck just the immediate breakdown and upgrade on the fly functionality is making me want to keep an eye on this and possibly get it.

[@RaDeus87]

@@HidForHG Yeah I think a more militaristic faction is going to get the Heinlein. I for one would love a The Moon is a Harsh Mistress ship with a really big railgun :D

[@Draelyn]

which of the 3 were only the big 2? I mean you have Isaac Asimov, Authur C Clark, and Jules Verne, all bigger than Heinlein

[@RaDeus87]

@Draelyn the Big Three is an informal term for Clarke, Asimov and Heinlein, who were the most influential authors during the mid to late 1900s. It's a well known and widely used term.

[@HidForHG]

I've always thought the retro crt and similar 'tech' made a certain degree of sense. It's usually pretty robust and durable. Likely also WAY easier to mass produce in lower tech colonies and stuff. Possible to jerry rig and repair WITHOUT star trek levels of handwavium. The ability to create a modern smartphone would be near impossible on anything but a fully developed colony/station. The levels of material refinement and processing would be like 10x more costly and difficult to get and setup than the Alien-esque retro tech. Lords above and below, people can and HAVE hand built retro computers. They literally were only made by hand for the longest time. Without the massive industrial and chemical infrastructure required to make modern levels of tech would be VASTLY reduced in massively smaller ships and stations for that older tech. A LOT more base compatibility on components, ruggedness from having to be built by clumsy humans, etc.

[@bunnybunbun8692]

This looks pretty good! Thanks for another awesome content showcase. ♥

[@ragejay1063]

Video only been posted for 5 minutes 😂

[@bunnybunbun8692]

Mmhmm! I was about 10 minutes in when I posted it. @@ragejay1063

[@GameTimeWhy]

​@@ragejay1063it's true though

[@Draelyn]

just downloaded this and beat the demo first go around, with 1 whole hitpoint remaining XD The fact that this is going to be co-op has sold me

[@heroicx00]

thanks for covering what looks like a pretty good game splat

[@arandomdragon1534]

33:00 the pain of realizing he could cast executioner for 9 damage on the boss, and wastes it.

[@FunkyBaconArts]

A Blackjack with an executioner missile launcher sounds very badass. kinda like strapping an Arrow IV on it.

[@rainbowkrampus]

I really dig the idea of making direction a more important factor. Feels like it'd be kinda... weak if you just pushed a button to determine shield allocation or whatever. Like, just not very engaging while being additional clicks, slowing things down. Maybe there's a solution in running two decks that represent the port and starboard halves of the ship. That way they behave kinda independently based on whatever action economy is currently available. Might allow for some interesting abilities that sacrifice economy for one side of the ship to improve the other.

[@littlekong7685]

Even having deck slots, 4 sides to use, each with certain buff slots you can apply to all cards on that side... but if damaged, you can lose buffs/degrade cards on that side (Eg: All shields played on this facing have +1, all guns from this side do +1 range). But also the deck would draw in sequence from those sides. So you could do 1) Shield> 2) Attack> 3)Heat/Shield> 4) Specials/Attack> 1) Shield. Give a lot of flexibility to your deck configuration, lots of control, and have powers or enemy attacks to disorganize this. eg. When hit, randomize rotation order for 2 turns, or passive crew power randomly draw 1 card from other rotation each turn at 1 less power.

[@rainbowkrampus]

@@littlekong7685 Hm, I'd want to see it in practice. Would the buffs persist? I like sticking to the idea that everything refreshes with each new hand. Reduces the amount of stuff to keep track of. I could see room for a game that goes for maximal complexity. Multiple decks accounting for different sections of the ship. A command points system. Cards persisting between hands. The whole nine yards. But in terms of the game in the video, seems like quick and breezy is part of the design ethos.

[@littlekong7685]

@@rainbowkrampus Passive ship buffs could help with speed. Have 4 balanced decks, each one with a different artifact buff to them, or do each deck a min-maxed optimized artifact synergy tool, like a super shield buff deck and a super damage output deck. Once in place, the artifact is passive, no need to hope for draw combos, and you can know the next deck coming up. instead of getting into the combo draw death spiral where things come up out of order and screw your synergies.

[@LoopBell]

I don't know, this still can't fill the NDS Infinite Space shaped hole in my heart

[@JarodCain]

I swear that was an amazing game that so many people slept on.

[@Creadeyh]

Seems pretty nice, not a big card game fan either but this one doesn't look too convoluted. Nothing will beat the charm of FTL though :) Just one thing that felt off is the CRT monitor effect, sure CRT is low quality but still quite sharp, here it looks like they just slapped blur on it. Obviously a demo and something that will surely get improved but it caught my eye badly since it made some stuff hard to read

[@PreacherManX]

That would depend if you were actually on a CRT properly or if it was a very low scan line television a la TI 99/4a

[@DoomedPaladin]

With a grid playboard like that I was honestly hoping for a 3D chess element. Some cards or game function that let you move above and below the main battle area for bonus damage, evasion buffs to shields, or something similar. I kind of want the treasure phase to be jazzed up a little too. Griftlands and other deckbuilders have spoiled me a little with that, revealing new cards with alt build potential, with a sparky-shaky pizzazz.

[@LaymensLament]

i actually skipped over this in my nextfest scrounge, even tho i like deck builders but it looks quite cool, when u see it in action. my 3 best picks are thaumaturge, last train home and mars tactics so far.

[@Jinkypigs]

me too, because of the so called FTL like mechanism that is so boring, linear and limiting

[@angelmarauder5647]

Have you watched any documentaries on Homeworld? It's impressive what they did

[@Vyre12]

I love that the ship looks like a giant A-wing!

[@raglanroadworks]

I just played this demo, liked it a lot! I'm definitely jumping in when it release into EA.

[@tiemanowo]

For me this game looks very similar to 'For the Warp'. Of course I don't mean graphics, but core concept of the game.

[@cyanx7]

My thoughts exactly. 😊

[@kaelin000]

it's like a polished version of Crying Suns

[@Chromov113]

I was just browsing comments to see if there is someone, who finds any similarity to Crying Suns!

[@gangstalkerofgangstalkers]

Is there any hope of you looking at Ortharion - The Last Battle is a dungeon crawler.

[@Reoh0z]

"Welcome to the world of Indie-ish games!"

[@jakehill3566]

Per your review I checked Earthless out. I dig it. Played thru a few times. It should definitely be harder but it's fun. Maybe the full game will up the difficulty. I'll buy it when the price is right.

[@richardatkins3623]

I honestly feel bad about watching videos and forgetting to leave a like when i enjoyed it. I remembered this time tho

[@Ownedyou]

Original Homeworld had those vibes... After Karak was destroyed, your quest for Hiigara was literally your last attempt at survival. Really set the atmosphere. But this game has cards, cards are lame, not touching this with a pole.

[@discordinmymind6565]

Classic splat, accidentally figures out the trick to defeat the boss

[@Transmissional]

Not a fan of card games really but if its gonna be a card game it needs to be more complex. I do appreciate the ui, graphics, and theme going in in everything else though. Low key kinda reminds me of this space ship card game i used to play on kongregate.

[@grantmccoy6739]

Awesome game. I love the interface and gameplay loop.

[@arnoldthomsen6571]

Directional damage and shield were a bad idea you had.

[@VndNvwYvvSvv]

Yeah, terrible.

[@BalladOfLooks]

I've been looking forward to Breachway, this looks like basically the same thing.

[@Nekoyashiki-san]

Thanks for showcasing! ^^

[@Tentacl]

Just downloaded the demo, hope it gets more complex because the base game is really cool.

[@throeawae2130]

you hadn't me at "deckbuilder"

[@Snowlilyzoe]

There is another game out that mixes the same two together like this one called Cobalt Core. Its abit more cute 😂. Hopefully we get a video on that one as well 🎉

[@fudgebucket11]

Looks like a promising game

[@MadsterV]

this sparks joy.

[@Chumpy819]

This is really cool looking.

[@Vulture2k]

I usually don't like card games like at all, I rather just chose out our all options and don't get why everything has to be a card now. But this actually looks kinda cool.

[@dasilentzealot]

Now this is definitely interesting

[@Cyenthie]

Thanks for the vid!

[@davesmith1044]

VGA or EGA TREK or Trek 71, I still play EGA trek to this day

[@CowCommando]

I such at strategy games, but Homeworld has some pretty great storytelling in its games.

[@Bahcorp]

🤔 High Technology running on Vinyls.

[@matthieuparthonnaud8023]

thanks. looks fun

[@HeathenSWolf]

Man, such a shame that it's a card game. Would've loved it otherwise probably.

[@winnie8614]

Yeah. Too big aspect of random in this kind of games.

[@sciohermetikum3902]

"It works exactly like FTL" except that it doesnt at all.

[@savenok4869]

Controversial take: I like desserts of kharak more

[@iratevagabond204]

Homeworld 3 is coming as well!

[@moldysquirrel7135]

They should have called it "shiv missile"

[@erictrauman2879]

this looks so goood

[@Arcon1337]

I wish the game ends up having a custom cursor because the windows mouse cursor really breaks the immersion.

[@itzybitzyspyder]

I had that Star Trek game or Apple IIe!

[@pbsixgun6]

Cool.

[@CPcamaro]

Hate the card-game deck concept, so this game isn't for me, but thanks for another great review/preview

[@winnie8614]

How heat is building up not from weapons but from engines is ridiculous! You see, engines are basically huge tube that is venting exhaust out from your ship! From what I saw in video, you basically can't move two turns in a row. WTF???

[@rogierdikkes]

Homeworld makers and then this? Their not making steps in the right direction.

[@igotbluesdevils]

"They're" :D

[@stevanvaughn2360]

Blackbird did not make old school homeworld. They are making 3...

[@elonwhatever]

As an explanation to Bluedevil's little comment. "Their" is a possessive, it marks something belonging to someone else. e.g. "It's their car". "Their time to shine." "They're" is a contracted form of "They are". Subject and verb leading into an object. "They are not taking steps ("making steps" is not really the phrase that we use in English) in the right direction. Other examples: "They are tired" "They corrected the grammar of that sentence". Their and They're are homophones (words which sound the same but are written differently and have a different meaning) which is why it's easy to get them confused. But if you mix up homophones in writing it comes across as hella odd.

[@igotbluesdevils]

@@elonwhatever Exactly, thank you. I try really hard not to come across as "judgy", or demeaning, so I keep comments like these short, and add a smiley face for good measure. :)

[@elonwhatever]

@@igotbluesdevils Yea, I feel the struggle. It's a difficult one. On the one hand you don't want to come across as demeaning or condescending but on the other hand just saying "you're wrong" and not explaining why makes it so they don't really know what they did wrong and it is harder to correct themselves in the future. I tend to add some info as to why their mistake was an understandable one to make, hoping that it expresses my understanding and empathy.

[@bernard832]

It's visually appealing but doesn't seem to bring anything new. Still might be worth checking out.

[@MICKEYrenraw]

the idea of this game seems great, but why does it have card mechanics?!

[@arkheavyindutries]

Exactly my thought

[@dfgdfg_]

Homeworld is ripe for VR

[@mbielcik]

🖤

[@JacobSantosDev]

5 minutes in and i am already tweaking. When it coming out?

[@theral056]

too bad there is absolutely no music, the silence is a bit hard on the ears imo. Hope that's just an early access thing and they actually have a soundtrack to go along with it

[@dicksoncider5099]

I love ftl so much. Kinda makes me sad they went with cards

[@elonwhatever]

Splattercatgaming: - not reading info and getting confused - not learning how things work that he literally did 30 seconds ago - stating things with conviction while having on the screen the exact opposite explanation displayed - the content creator :p "I don't have an Angle" "We have more and more deadzones to play around" No: you can't shoot the ship while all turrets are up. That's how you got it vulnerable the first turn and every turn after and it is what the tooltip says literally every time you try to shoot it. :p It was a bit funny the first few times and downright infuriating after.

[@johnatanfalck3021]

That is the type of game phone or tablet not so much for my pc

[@oak1780]

oof maybe i won't hate the card mechanics next time i watch this, but right now I'm not mad, just dissapointed. (think hearing "homeworld" over-amped my expectations )

[@kabiebebe2332]

Is this any good?

[@VndNvwYvvSvv]

Depends what you like.

[@plumbthumbs9584]

splat bug wacks.

[@XeratolPlays]

It really looks nice! Not a fan of card mechanics though :(

[@testbenchdude]

@7:29 Gross. Why is some of the UI deliberately blurry??? I couldn't play Rebel Galaxy Outlaw for some of the same issues. You can look plenty retro without handcuffing your visual clarity, devs. It's especially painful for me to look at since I wear corrective lenses in order to combat this precise issue IRL. (I'm not blind, just near-sighted.) Please offer a way to change this, maybe a slider in the graphics settings, something. I loved Homeworld to pieces, and FTL is one of my all-time favorite games, but I absolutely will not pay to experience this blurry mess, no matter how great the game might actually be. Gross. EDIT: @7:52 is equally bad. I can't watch this video to the end, sry Splatty.

[@Awootistic]

No Earth?

[@JayB9127]

comment for the comment god!

[@nuruddinshah684]

3 min in and I alright have what I need to know Card + FTL = this game Me. Ok I pass on it

[@aerouge4492]

Slay the Spyre X FTL ...m this is either great or garbage... there is no betwren.

[@d3athfromab0ve70]

Damn hella early

[@coolhandluke1503]

How vid says 2 min old and your comment 15 min

[@creamysmooth79]

I love the idea of this, but I can't stand rogue-likes. I just don't have the time to put into them to get good or rely on luck. I hate having progress wiped by a single mistake or random bad luck and having to start all over again from the beginning, so sadly I will have to let this game slide.

[@doltBmB]

I can't freaking stand cards and dice in a video game. They are awful limitations of the tabletop medium and that's where they need to stay.

[@christophersteen1873]

"Lets see if they can make me like a card game." Me: Uhhhh nope, looks really lame, expected more than some recycled deckbuilding thing.

[@VndNvwYvvSvv]

Directional shields and abilities sounds terrible.

[@galosryzos8929]

Calling this basically FTL seems very off mark. Any similarity is superficial. Combat works differently, crew management works differently, ship (deck) upgrading works differently. It feels like every game where you command a spaceship gets called FTL these days and it is unhelpful.

[@yancieb]

Seen the turn based playstyle/grid movement and no thank you, not my style. FTL was good but I feel like turn based style takes too much from games involving flight, especially when its in space.

[@SiDi-Wuja]

Ugh.. another card game with a different skin.

[@TuhljinTampergauge]

How does this critique make any sense? It's like saying, "Ugh, another board game with a different skin." Two card games or board games could be very different. If it's just a "different skin" then you'd have to specify WHICH card game it's like. It makes no sense to just say it's a new skin for CARD GAMES in general.

[@admthrawnuru]

​@@TuhljinTampergaugebecause for some reason it seems a ton of new strategy games are deco-builders or card games, and it's annoying.

[@alessimc]

I was about to watch this, but if it’s a card game…

[@whoisj]

started the video, saw this comment, threw up a bit in my mouth, and left. 😢

[@FerrowTheFox]

Absolutely had my attention at "makers of Homeworld" but alas, I *HATE* turn based card games with a passion. If I wanted to play a board game I'd do so, but not on a computer. So this'll get a pass from me.

[@Ceowulf20]

Love Homeworld. Hate these kind of card games. What a waste of time.

[@robinfox4440]

Ew. Card games. I think the only one I've ever liked was Inscryption. A friend bought me Slay the Spire as a gift and I touched it once.

[@Trindify]

Why do so many rogue-like games insist on using that god-awful card mechanic? That is not fun. It's so damned annoying to have your character's abilities limited to pure chance when you know damn well that the character is capable of doing what you need to do.