Sports Games got WEIRD

[@Gaslighter893]

Sports games did not get weird. They got worse.

[@juliusjean-baptiste924]

It became a monopoly and a lack of options

[@bornonmany2sdays]

they were always weird 😂 they just were fun

[@dylanroach3022]

The "new features" they add are usually features they took away years prior

[@isoxj1810]

I find it weird because while the games are not flawless, the gameplay gets better and better every year. But all that gets thrown out the window when playing online. 2k was the worst with the removal of the aution house in my team so you couldnt even hunt for budget options if you were f2p or a low budget spender. My career has always been "if you dont have the best build or said animations, then you're at a disadvantage."

[@alexnather7614]

NBA 2K24 is literally worse technically "not graphically" than 2K16 17 18 19 20. its pathetic

[@mechrowave6342]

Honestly micro transactions are anoying in sports games I don't care for a season pass I JUST WANA PLAY BASEBALL

[@greg.osiris]

U literally dont have to buy any micro transactions

[@Xaydot]

@@greg.osiriswell that would be the case if they didn’t try and force that shit in our faces every second. i remember getting ur build max was relatively easy but nowadays you gotta spend 70 dollars to 100 dollars to get ur build max and it’s like what’s the point cause the builds will end up getting patched and u wasted ur time and money

[@juliusjean-baptiste924]

@@Xaydotwithout VC and starting from scratch, I think players start at like a 65 overall and it can take upwards of a month to get to a 90 overall without VC in a 2K game. Im playing Live 19 again, a game free of micro transactions, and it took me a week to get to a 93 overall and players start from 70. Players can level up pretty quick in Live

[@thatdude7692]

I didn’t spend a dime and my team in season 1 was stacked 99 overall

[@itzquan7295]

@@greg.osirisso if the business is making money and they implement something to gain money off said product why don’t you think we getting short end of the stick .. just curious why they down your throat like that

[@kylekruse8618]

The excitement over a college football video game is a perfect representation of what sports video game fans ACTUALLY care about.

[@Southeastern_Thrills]

I don't want EA to screw it up, but I know they will.

[@dizdawgjr34]

@@Southeastern_ThrillsI do think they will probably mess it up, but the new game is showing more promise than any other major sports game than a very long time when it comes to actually being a sports game focused more on the sport.

[@Southeastern_Thrills]

@@dizdawgjr34 👍

[@TheSticksRelapse]

@@dizdawgjr34to be real the only way they mess up the game is the W&T(wear&tear) system. Id say about 70 percent of us only care about dynasty mode & they never disappointed or fell short with recruiting so the adds to recruiting is a huge win.

[@LordWafflestomp]

I'm excited for CFB25 because it's the first game in a long ass time to have am actual dev cycle instead of yearly release. Yeah it's the same engine as Madden and all, but it's still gonna feel different just like the older games did and hopefully when it does go yearly, it doesn't decrease in quality. Modern sports games are the biggest reason why yearly release games just can't happen anymore.

[@franklinligh7175]

This all started when EA Sports bought the exclusive rights to the NFLPA in 2006, setting a new precedent and ending competition

[@jpeters1734]

Yeah no shit lol

[@OtherBarry4908]

Then EA screwed up and killed nba live.

[@stephengrigg5988]

Well 2k made espn football and that challenged madden, so EA bought the exclusive rights to the NFL and we lost 2k football. In response to that, 2k bought the exclusive rights to the MLB and we lost MVP baseball, which is still regarded as the best baseball game. So yeah, a great example of capitalism working as the complete opposite of a meritocracy. We lost the two best sports games in their respective sports forever, over corporate greed.

[@CouchCoach16]

​@stephengrigg5988 I know everyone always thinks that "EA BOUGHT THE NFL RIGHTS" but what happened was that the NFL looked to sell their rights to their league. They did this with everything...Pizza Hut used to be the "official pizza" of the NFL now it's Little Ceasars, they have "official partners" for EVERYTHING. So while EA paid for the rights, it's because it was the NFL wanting there to ONLY BE ONE partner for everything they could

[@FragginWagon76]

Madden 2007 is the last Madden game I ever bought. I was so upset they killed 2K.

[@bguzewi0]

Bring back EA Big. The streets need a new NBA Street and SSX game.

[@brettrossi034]

YES!! NFL AND NBA street were the best!! So much fun.

[@raphz6256]

What's sad about that is that the games just wouldn't be as good, so I don't even want to think of that

[@AlexCereal]

Could you imagine NBA Street with a modern roster and updated graphics?! What a dream

[@raphz6256]

@@AlexCereal and micro transactions for everything. There's a reason Volta failed in Fifa

[@TheMarslMcFly]

@@raphz6256 or NBA Playgrounds...lol, that sorry joke of a Game

[@tbyrn21]

I think you've nailed it in this vid. Sports games are fun when you just let us play the sport, and not have to worry about things like ultimate team. I'm loving my career in Cricket 24 because it just lets me play without being asked to drop cash to max my stats out like in NBA 2K. We really need a big reset or new competition in the genre.

[@lakerfan2874]

NBA 2K never tells you to max your attributes out. The players are telling you that because they don't want to play with a 60 overall player. You can play the game against the CPU normally. It's realistic that a 60 overall wouldn't be as great as the storyline wants to claim.

[@turtz0]

​@@lakerfan2874please use your fucking brain. You think after paying 70 dollars you should be forced to play a 60 overall and not be able to have any fun online because you are getting stomped by people who paid more than you?

[@badaxtion1878]

@@lakerfan2874yea but without cash, you’ll be trash for too many hours without even counting trying to customize your own player with just shoes. I just play The W now. It’s what Myplayer used to be but a little more stripped down

[@dominicdragoni4215]

even offline madden and 2k esp nba have like point matching to try and keep they game close and they completely sacrifice the integrity of the game and gameplay for the sake of being down 9 points and not 10

[@Rookie_Mode2023]

The college football community is the biggest indicator of this. We've been playing NCAA 14 for 11 years and finally we're getting a new game next month.

[@Rookie_Mode2023]

"We're the audience. It shouldn't matter to us how the business works." 👏👏👏

[@alonedownthere47]

and yet it's gonna have to matter to everyone because we laid down and accepted capitalism 🥲 it's not enough for a game to have an impressive innovation or make a certain amount of money, it has to be more impressive and make more money next year, and the next year, forever! it's fucking cursed. I'm not gonna pretend I know socialism or some other system would make better video games for longer, but it's just so rough and i hate it here lol

[@richp858]

@@alonedownthere47 Yeah you sound like you're struggling to cope with basic concepts of life.... quite the opposite, we're really not supposed to care. That's the point of the field of business. It's why people get college degrees in business, to play in this mud while WE, the general public, ENJOY THE SHOW.... the only reason drama happens is when people get EMOTIONAL and CARE TOO MUCH

[@GarkKahn]

​@@richp858no, the problem comes when whoever is making the product just stops caring about it You don't go to a restaurant and expect the one cooking to do it poorly or have a "then do it yourself" attitude. If you keep going there then you deserve eating the same garbage expecting some change one day

[@richp858]

@@GarkKahn Just stop man. I'm already getting tired of avoiding scammers on here. People like you are the problem for real. You don't like something, don't do it. That's all. Stop f'n whining.

[@giggityguns123]

Former Madden fanboy here. I think the frustration you pointed out about losing features from old games while being advertised to aggressively is half the problem. But the game switched from the ignite engine in Madden 25 (2014) to frostbite, which was basically a commitment to cinematics and graphics, while making the game feel more scripted and on-rails. I think the AI took a nose dive for both FIFA and Madden when they embraced frostbite. In any video game you just want to feel in control of the game. Another problem is that the community will eat up anything that looks pretty and displays the players’ faces glamorously, and the developers realize and are counting on that.

[@colmecolwag]

It is just the eternal problem of "videogames are harder and harder to make than ever, yet skipping a year for any of the Sports games for a year would be a financial disaster" so you got a team panickedly trying to make and update a game in a huge time crunch which is all a mess Madden is a weird one tho cause like, yeah it has a lot of modes that have come and gone but the game itself has like a Billion game modes still, it's a weird product to talk about there

[@mbowmoney]

THANK YOU

[@giggityguns123]

@@colmecolwag Yeah i blame the suits over the devs for sure. But i dont buy that a multi billion dollar conglomerate doesnt have the resources to produce something better. And its not necessarily a lack of game modes, its that everything lacks depth even at the gameplay level. Its just like everything else, why would Disney and Marvel not spin off their franchises and beat their properties to death? As long as the theaters are filled and can sell popcorn, they’re happy for those to be the only movies shown. The NFL itself loves watching Madden make billions every year, so why bust up your own legal monopoly?

[@colmecolwag]

@@giggityguns123 i mean yeah the suits are part of why "skipping a year is suicide" is a Thing at all, but also that's just capitalism and money making as a whole too. There is a LOT of game in every Madden but it's still based on all this spaghetti code and stuff too. And also like... I don't know if this is a problem more money can solve. The Best yearly released game out there is like, Call of Duty, and they're 3 different huge studios taking turns making 3 different 3 year plans, are one of the largest game developers around, have also kinda put every other studio they had ONTO call of duty to just try and get enough manpower for it, AND each year there's all sorts of weird crud and issues fans have issues with. I don't think EA can spare All of Activision levels of manpower and spending on Madden alone. The hope is just that "college football got multiple years of work on it at least hopefully it can be ported to Madden without losing all of THEIR good stuff in the process too"

[@nothabibikah24]

I’m pretty sure they didn’t switch to frostbite until Madden 18, before that was ignite. I have Madden 15 and that’s on ignite

[@harpskid]

I just wish people would honestly say to themselves "I am a victim of a predatory business model." Sports games that come out every year are already pretty suspect, but when you've got lootboxes, season passes, and you *literally* are only leasing the game until the servers shutdown in 4 years...is that really a good investment? I would rather regress to the 80s, a time before I was even born, and enjoy the games of that time period than give this manipulative garbage the time of day.

[@reedtheroom9580]

For me all the sports games i wait to play til they're on game pass. I almost never play online anymore and gave up my player even tho i used to enjoy it in 2k. I always hated ultimate team. I just like franchise modes in everything and i still cant help myself but to sink hours into the show franchise now but at least i dont give them extra money

[@Bferrell15]

servers actually shut down even quicker, nba 2k24 released 9/8/2023 and shuts down 12/31/2025, which makes it even worse

[@harpskid]

@@Bferrell15 Wow so people are paying $70 minimum for 2 years of gaming. My sports gaming bingo card is seeing games go to a subscription model. $5/mo to play "2kinfinity".

[@RoninTheBlackFox]

Yes sir! Salute

[@cglucas44]

4 years no no no no no try again you can't play anything before 2K23 You're getting at Max two years. it used to be 4 years, but that model's all gone now it's last year and then this year and when this year's comes out they'll shut down last year.

[@icrashout]

Microtransactions are the huge reason of sport games' downfall

[@LadySniperSwaggYT]

The thing is with NBA 2k they make it hard as possible to play the game without micro transactions.

[@juliusjean-baptiste924]

They made the game hard for sure. Getting VC is a grind, the gear in shops are expensive, and it can take upwards of over a month to get to a 90 overall starting from under 70. Then there’s badge regression which really put the 2K community on edge. It forces players to not only play the game longer but to use those badges or skills. Live starts players out at 70 and in under a week can get to a 90 overall. Can unlock everything in the game by just grinding. Don’t have to spend real money. Pure in game currency

[@wimpwilson]

Yeah the grind is atrocious, pretty obviously designed to frustrate you into buying vc

[@OtherBarry4908]

If only EA hadn't messed up nba live.

[@Maxrepfitgm]

Once it changed from skill points to VC I think I lasted two years or NBA 2k15 or 16 and realized it wasn't something I was interested in anymore which is a shame because I would love to buy and play an NBA game.

[@irvinglambert9316]

2k is still in a much better place than the other games. 2k is the most greedy with it's online modes, but they also offer the best offline play. They have the best franchise mode ever conceived. The gameplay offline is usually good and gives you enough options that can be adjusted if it isn't. The other sports game franchises are less greedy, but they offer so much less for offline play, and the gameplay does a worse job replicating their sport (The Show excluded, it has superb gameplay most years). The only franchise mode that is in any way comparable to 2k's is NHL, and 2k's is still years ahead of NHL (excluding the manager games like OOTP).

[@OtherBarry4908]

Lack of competition is the problem. EAss and 2k got lazy and greedy because they have no competition.

[@kylespevak6781]

They basically became all sims besides Mario sports and any clones. We used to have SSX, NBA Street, NFL Blitz

[@angel_of_rust]

e a. *B I G*

[@kidthekiddo8996]

youtube gave me an advertisement 6 seconds into your nostalgia montage at the end, and it was so ironic i thought i was going to rip my hair out

[@666cashley]

I got one 6 seconds into the video 👍

[@dasteelerz7413]

you guys should really use adblock

[@presrecord]

Admittedly, an amazing video that touches on how almost all video games these days have become money grabbing corporate entities, not just sports games. The biggest indicator is at the end of the video when you put together the montage. Every game looks amazing and nostalgic and I missed every game you showed… then PGA 2k23 popped up, and the ball flying in the air just looks lifeless and dull. Sad times these days

[@brianm27]

Micro transactions ruined video games 😭 this is a post mortem, they’ve been dead for years

[@kirk90212]

As far as ice hockey immolation goes, the Zamboni is a vehicle that resets the ice between period and flattens and smoothes it with hot water. So… being on fire would help melt the ice but it would probably happen so fast that the ice wouldn’t have time to freeze again so the results wouldn’t be helpful. It might depend on the ambient temperature of the arena. But I’m not a physicist. Hope that helps

[@wimpwilson]

Thank you, this really helps with my research 🤔

[@Maxrepfitgm]

Lol 😂​@@wimpwilson

[@Re_al33]

What sucks is that MLB the show felt like the only good sports game bc it wasn’t so heavy on micro transactions on its diamond dynasty mode, but they recently just kept shoving packs in our throats that cost way too much making you want to spend money

[@wimpwilson]

Yeah I guess I look at the show as the lesser evil at the moment in terms of the big sports games

[@jackryanTV]

I have a cool lineup nms they’re obv not comp but they’re fun

[@dasteelerz7413]

not to mention it has not changed much

[@k-2768]

Making you want to spend money??? you must be talking about children right? 😂

[@halcyonfrost6790]

@@wimpwilson I feel like each game should just be compared to its past versions. The most common argument I hear is that "at least the show is not like madden or 2k". Like the bar is on the floor. Just because you are an inch off the ground doesnt mean you're doing amazing. The show used to be amazing. Its just good now because the ENTIRE GAME has taken a backseat to diamond dynasty

[@DADON99]

Lack of competition and the popularity of online play is the reason for the lack of passion in sports games and just video games in general

[@wimpwilson]

Yeah I agree, I think a lot of triple A gaming has the same problems as the sports genre

[@Bizixi]

Very surprised this video doesn’t have a lot of views. Very well put together and informative! I’ve been playing sports games my entire life and this completely sums up the genre. Great video bro‼️

[@wimpwilson]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it 🙌

[@supermegaguy666]

It's been out for 2 weeks and is by FAR his most watched video...

[@Bizixi]

@@supermegaguy666 yeah I mean this is a video I’d see that potential could get a million views is what I mean

[@MellyWater-c2k]

I love the comical parts of the video. The overall point of the video. Great work. I hope I see this page at 50k subscribers soon.

[@JSimBaller23]

The nostalgic hype for NCAA Football is so great that it’s really going to upset a lot of people when it ends up being a pay to play business model. The fans think they brought it back for us, but in reality they brought it back to profit on a business model that didn’t exist the last time the game existed.

[@Sewer_Goblin]

Was expecting way more subs. Your video quality, editing, and style are amazing my dude. Remember us all when you’re at a million

[@6994Elijah]

Excellent video, as always! Also, although they're not conventional "sports" games, I do miss the EA NASCAR games of the early to mid 2000s. I played the hell out of those back in the day.

[@wimpwilson]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed 😊 i haven’t played any of the nascar games actually, I’ll have to check out 👍

[@RowingFrontal5]

Before EA got exclusive rights you had different types of NASCAR games. Just the same type of phenomenon you talked about here. All the games had to be good because they weren’t the only game on the market. Simulation type with impressive physics: NASCAR Racing 2003 Season (still being modded to this day) Polished Mainstream EA Entry: NASCAR Thunder 2004 (best console NASCAR game) Lower budget but just as fun entry: NASCAR Dirt to Daytona Then EA got their exclusive deal and nascar games have been on a nosedive ever since. They’ve crashed into the bottom of the deepest depths of earth and might be climbing back

[@ChrisSterner]

Omg yeah I loved the ones that had the ability to switch between drivers during a race because i used to created all kinds of championship battles and try to do stuff like have Scott Riggs when a coke 600 are Kevin harvick having to fight his way into the chase then wining it

[@BlazarFGC]

as someone from a very small town in Texas, your “vague texan football coach” accent is on point.

[@jameshartman3630]

Super underrated stuff, never see people with

[@wimpwilson]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed 😊

[@seamusmcgrath7165]

As someone who used to game a TON as a kid and recently bought an Xbox after a ~10 year lapse. This is SO spot on. Really resonated with the pop ups and in your face “buy now” bundles.. while I do think sports games have gone down hill I’m so appreciative to keep playing!

[@rhythmlessroxby]

Hardcore 2K gamer from 11 to 22 here, I really can only agree with your sentiments here. 2K has managed to get away with so much, it feels like there's a major controversy every year since 18 -- from unskippable ads, to deleting players, to 2K24 literally lying and scamming people out of card rewards ... the audacity of sports gaming companies is insane

[@rhythmlessroxby]

Not to mention that since the new gen of consoles came out, 2K has been repackaging the same game every year for last gen consoles & still selling it at $60

[@EricDeatrick]

The editing/production of this video is great! I was entertained start to finish. I also relate to the content because I played a TON of sports game up through the PS2 generation, many featured in this video, but I have played very few since for the reasons explained in this video. Well done! I subscribed.

[@cartermelon]

This video better pop off and your channel better grow! This was a fantastic video! Summarized everything perfectly. I recently returned to NBA 2K to be disappointed that the my career mode changed so drastically. But you really hit the nail on the head with every point in this video. FANTASTIC work!!!!

[@wimpwilson]

Thanks, really glad you enjoyed 😊

[@FeveTen]

an absolutely incredible video, kept my attention the whole time, the editing was perfect with subtle laughs, keep up the amazing work

[@AdamKlownzinger]

Sports games are trying to not be sports games. They’re trying to be open world like mmorpgs, they’re trying to have grand story modes, theyre trying to have microtransactions like mobile or casual games, etc. while also being sports sims. And they can’t do all of these things so they do each of them poorly and the quality of just the sports gameplay alone stagnates or declines

[@lunarwhaler]

This is exactly the kind of thing I subbed for. Doesn't matter if it's the "usual" genre or not - at the end of the day it's a funny guy, making a video on a topic he's passionate about, with some entertaining gags and some good editing.

[@wimpwilson]

Thanks! Glad you are enjoying 😊 I tend to be all over the place with my topics, I just play lots of different genres 🤷 thanks for the sub 🙌

[@marrodc]

The extreme focus on graphics and making money killed modern sports games. I've always liked playing FIFA a lot, but FC24 was the nail in the coffin for me. I found the "intelligence" of the players when defending to be terrible, and that coupled with the play style that is rewarded in this game is unfun and, ironically in a sim, unrealistic. It's all about spamming skill moves, abusing glitches in the defense to score, and just going forward without thinking about it, and if you don't play this way, you'll struggle to keep up. I gave up on FC24 went back to FIFA 17, which was such a refreshing take on a football game. It is still such a good game that plays way better than the recent installments. The players are somehow smarter both attacking and defending than in the newer versions despite all the supposed improvements throughout the years; the game looks probably better (FC24 looks cartoonish to me); and it actually rewards playing the game in a more "tactical" way. Like, playing with a lot of passes in this game feels so rewarding and nice because if you have good vision, you will be rewarded by finding your player make a run into the space you created with your touches, unlike in the new releases where players are static no matter what the instructions are. Contract negotiations in career mode, while a bit annoying due to how long it takes, also feels more realistic due to that waiting time than being able to make 7 signings in a single day because they're immediate. And the best part might just be the menu tbh. It's so refreshing to have a background that isn't a boring dark color. The menu with a bright pitch being in the background even makes me more enticed and excited to play a match because of the positive connections my brain can make with a pitch that looks ready to be played in, rather than a bland dark screen. I just hope with competition in the near future, they can finally make a great game again

[@modnar-]

Hi Mr. Wilson, this was in my recommended today & ended up binge watching all your videos. You gave me some genuine chuckles and your reviews are now strictly how a base what games I play lol

[@wimpwilson]

Thanks! Glad you’re enjoying the videos 😊

[@jesusismyhigh123]

wimp exposing modern gaming one genre at a time

[@jbvol3]

Absolute gem of a video you made here, 100% agree with all your points, hopefully one day we can get some competition back in the sports genre. Maybe we'll get a small taste of that with Madden, with the new college game coming out. Same company but maybe some pressure will be given if it performs well

[@z0zef]

I wish there would be an NBA or basketball in general and a soccer game similar to games like super mega baseball series or the golf club series. The state of sports games, for the most popular of them, is disappointing, at least.

[@cbixby8335]

I been playing smb 4 I like it more than the show

[@jefflingyueyan]

Bro so glad I stumbled upon this video today man. Your videos are are absolutely blast to watch! Looking forward to more amazing contents from you!

[@krischens2433]

Who are the people who gamble on the packs and skins and stuff??? I don't know anyone like that, where are they hiding? Who's playing online and sweats? I just want a great franchise mode...

[@harpskid]

I lost over $300 as a teen playing on CSGO roulette sites. Id imagine a similar teenage demographic is suspectable to buying packs and skins on sports games. People who buy the packs know in some sense that they are being ripped off so they might not admit they do it to their friends because they're ashamed.

[@nomorepartiezz]

middle school aged kids.

[@danielsmokesmids]

high schoolers who dont have any other vices

[@whiterider1414]

“EVERY TIME I RETURN TO A MENU IT REMINDS ME THAT I AM NOT GETTING THE FULL EXPERIENCE BECAUSE I HAVE NOT PURCHASED THE BONUS PACKS!”… literally my exact experience with every 2K game the last couple of years, and it is so frustrating because the 2K games are otherwise a lot of fun and full of great stuff, but they always make me feel like a poor loser for not buying the season pass and they constantly remind me on all of the missing features that I am missing out on! 🤬 GREAT VIDEO MATE! 🤗

[@iamthurnis745]

i think it’s also been fascinating to see how more common emulators have become and the advancement of those as well.

[@19mills87]

Great videos bro, i miss the old nba and madden games. In the last 2 years though ive played maybe a total of 3 games.

[@dylanmoore5138]

The problem with madden is not only do you get nickel and dimed but the gameplay also sucks but they have the exclusive license so you have no choice.

[@FoolisH409]

You’re spot on. I’ve played sports games ever since I was a child and I always imagined we would get where we are graphically but not once did I ever imagine I would be playing a game that would be nagging me about buying something it’s more than just sports though, fps games are the same way.

[@stickdeath1980]

NFL Blitz on Dreamcast was Gold (in my student day's) but main one we played was the rugby league games and the NHL and jonah lomu rugby and Shane Warne cricket 99 ;)

[@wimpwilson]

All amazing, Shane Warne cricket 99 is 🔥🔥🔥

[@Helsfasa]

As an American football coach actually living in Texas (not originally from Texas) I give you permission to talk about American football. I miss competition with nfl games.

[@Helsfasa]

Also, I gave up on madden and just stick with ncaa football 14

[@Helsfasa]

Also, also, the last few years of madden have straight up not been fun. If you can even get past the garbage menus the game is just sluggish and boring.

[@Helsfasa]

I miss nba and nfl street

[@NoMoreTrickPlays]

Anyone else remember how awesome the EA sports ads used to be?

[@nightwing_72]

Found this video on the home page and really enjoyed. Wish you had talked more about cricket and rugby games, they're a really interesting case in a discussion that's usually centered on annual release American sports (and FIFA/EAFC)

[@wimpwilson]

Yeah I might do some more on them in the future, just had to fit them in with all the others for this one 😊 glad you enjoyed!

[@coreyward9000]

Great work video about racing games as usual, not many cars though, in all seriousness the big ant cricket games slap and have no natural enemy or competitor. Weird observation but your shirt looks like it would be heavy and would feel scratchy, please confirm. Keep up the great work!

[@wimpwilson]

Yeah I think these games were all from an experimental phase where the devs started putting professional athletes into racing games instead of cars 🤷 can confirm the shirt is heavy, not too scratchy though! The colour is a poor choice to try to key a green screen against, but I’m up for the challenge

[@RLongo1515]

It’s for these reason why I keep my steady rotation of all my classic games instead of buying these new games every year. MVP Baseball 2005, NFL Street, NHL Hitz, NBA Street and Mario Strikers prevail!

[@lukekowalski]

There are plenty of great sports games coming out nowadays, you just gotta know where to look. Out of the Park Baseball, Wild Card Football, 3on3 Freestyle, Super Mega Baseball, Football Manager. A shame the industry is so dominated by the top-end names that no one goes to look below the surface.

[@defeatstatistics7413]

FM has its own problems, been in that community for nearly 20 years.

[@nadimls3672]

Try Legend Bowl and College Bowl made by one guy. That game combined everything that people ever played.

[@CaseyS30]

I was so glad to see the clip of Backbreaker in the montage section, that is one of my favorite sports games ever, every day I imagine how good a modern day high budget nfl game would be with the same physics engine as that game

[@marctuenge]

I’m just waiting for the day when EA and the NFL get investigated for monopolizing there games. Also goes for Sony and The Mlb

[@UltiMaker2]

Great video. I really enjoy sports games and wish we had more competition like we did during the PS2 days!

[@Slick.Robinson]

Don’t get it twisted…EA FC is trash in so many ways. Terrible game.

[@Babbitxp]

Found your channel today and i already love ya! lol

[@shadowandroid1823]

Correction:sports games got BAD. Exclusivity led to laziness and greed.

[@reioftheseventhcircle]

as a long time 2k player, the show was SUCH a breath of fresh air. i have never really been a fan of other sports because any fandom for any sport i ever had came from video games, and i've been playing 2k since i was 4 or 5 years old. last year, i tried the show for the first time and fell in love with both the game and baseball itself. don't get me wrong, it's loaded with microtransactions as well, but compared to recent 2ks, it was so muted. i play basically every mode in any sports game, so going from 2k's ridiculous 99 overall craze with shaq having 90+ 3 point ratings in my team to getting baseball players that somewhat play like how they do in real life was such a relief. it's fun, it's interesting to learn something new, so it's so much better for me personally. the mynba eras is the best addition i think 2k has made in years, and they've already half-abandoned that mode and it's still loaded with generic players winning awards and completely abandoning the boom-or-bust potential system that they hyped up so heavily. 2k seems like they legitimately don't care about basketball. at least the show seems like it's made by people who like baseball.

[@Sem5626]

missed opportunity, could have went on the F1 series hard because its had the EA treatment the past few years as well codemasters had issues before the buy out but man are they hitting a whole new level of terrible now

[@Warlock_Sack]

This dude is gonna blow up and I’m gonna be able to brag that I subbed when he was less than 3k.

[@wimpwilson]

🙌

[@Skumtomten1]

​@@wimpwilsonYour mango is to blow

[@TheJasonaut]

Yeah, I really miss sports games of the past. I feel like the licensing has to be at least partially to blame, those costs have skyrocketed and of course the exclusivity of Madden/NFL. This is the first video of yours I’ve seen, good stuff!

[@obeyhuncho]

All ima say is the community is at fault for the way sports gaming is we keep buying trash product that’s overpriced 🤷🏽‍♂️ accountability.

[@onekidarmy]

Thats not how this works. Companies build predatory gaming models because it takes advantage of our dopamine cycles.

[@roryheath9536]

This was the most needed summary and historical video ever.

[@claustrophobicturtle]

Micro transactions are the downfall of video games period

[@ItsTeddyRetro]

as a texan, your had me hooked at the beginning! lol great work!

[@avery11123]

The Show Games are not getting better, they feel like they are getting worse... I find myself playing 21 and 22 instead of 23 and 24 lol. The graphics look worse, presentation, the gameplay has totally gotten worse. The baseball looks different, they haven't made any changes to franchise, the online modes are fucked rn, the only big additions they made to 24 were women in ROTS... which is all good but that's all we got...

[@ZachWhoIsTall]

Awwww I was happy to see the SJ Sharks in your montage :)

[@DeonSmith-ek8ne]

EAss and 2k got so lazy and greedy.

[@mattheww7846]

You nailed it. NHL Hitz needs to come back

[@NewDesignVinylGraphics]

They are a weird blend of woke and a money grab.. what a goofy ass time we live in.

[@danielsmokesmids]

???

[@JT2327]

Cheers from California mate! Please keep on preaching about the state of sports games , you're spot on. All the racing vids are dope too! Keep on chugging Bruhv

[@wimpwilson]

Thanks! Glad you are enjoying 😊

[@dasteelerz7413]

This is why we used to always say monopolies are BAD. Shockingly, monopolies are BAD. Loved this video! From a Yank married to an Aussie..

[@Cloud121D]

This is why I still play NFL GameDay, NBA Shootout, NBA 2K - 2K6, NFL 2K - 2K5, NBA Live 95 - 06, NCAA Football 98 - 07, and even Quarterback Club 95 - 99. NHL FaceOff as well, along with Griffey Winning Run, Griffey 64, and World Series 98 on Saturn. I "get around" the "outdated rosters" by just doing a fantasy draft in Season or Franchise Mode. In NCAA, after a few years of Dynasty Mode, the rosters are completely made up of players the game made up for recruiting.

[@kylespevak6781]

What's crazy is the only reason these games actually sell is because they're the only ones with online

[@mattlong4014]

I once lost an NBA2k solo franchise in year 12 because the servers shut down with no internal warning, and I didn’t realize that my file was only saved on the network

[@firstlasts9630]

The biggest problem is that sports titles no longer need a yearly release... The only reason this was necessary, back in the day,was to update rosters really and bug fixes. A simple update takes care of that now. Sports titles need to go to a 3-5 year release cycle. The time it takes to really put out a quality game. You'd also be able to notice innovative things added to the game. But its a cash grab now. Nothing will change as long as people flock to them and keep buying them.

[@danielsmokesmids]

thats what ea was doing with ufc and they improved every game from 1-3 but started declining in quality starting at 4 when they found ways to monetize it and stopped focusing on putting out a quality mma game

[@prestonisechal503._.]

“You can’t talk about Football your Australian man”😂

[@elCaptainKrunch]

This vid hit close to home. Cheers man. Great vid

[@thicccactus6056]

You’re spot on with the 2K assessment. Old games really felt like a basketball RPG instead of VC cash dump simulator

[@1whiskeyaday]

I lost my shit when you got smacked down the fairway mid sentence... lol

[@user78738]

I kept my xbox 360 for this reason to have access to my old sports games, virtua tennis, ncaa football 14, nba 2k11, fight night round 3, and the delisted NFL blitz 2012 even though that one is watered down with no late hits its the only arcade football game on xbox 360 with an NFL license

[@wepopcreative]

That Bundle prompt in 2K24 constantly pops up every time you play the stupid game, and you can’t turn it off. I agree with you man

[@tdurb0]

I love your head popping up randomly all over the screen. Very Chris Morris 😂👏🏻

[@SNKManiac]

I miss the era of Midway sport games and EABig, and the time when there was so much competition in sport games that developer needed to actually work on theirs titles to stand out (NBA 2K, Live, Inside drive, Street... All coming out at the same time).

[@rogertippingii450]

Long time competitive madden gamer here. Recent titles have been among the worst of all time from a purely gameplay/competition standpoint. With massive budgets they are somehow light years behind true competitive titles like DOTA / LoL / CS and still don’t have the faintest clue about competitive balance and creating skill gap.

[@Tboy2kool]

PERFECTLY explained pga2k23 so relaxing and then the most fast paced music ever

[@Lucky13777]

This struggle is so real. I loved sport titles. But now them all are pathetic. Lack of any competition, online only content and MICROTRANSACTIONS. I pay full price for the game and want to play franchise or career without that all crap

[@Angfrojr]

Need more arcade-style sports games back. Street Series, NBA Jam, NBA Ballers, MLB The Bigs, etc.

[@gavintoussaint3237]

Bro is playing 2k on that angle is crazy🤣

[@cozzyono]

NBA 2K still has the deepest franchise mode for modern sport games but definitely the gameplay just keeps regressing in favor of money making schemes..

[@lettucekisses]

The 2k story about my career is exactly what happened

[@Plupert]

I’ve played soccer my whole life. As such I loved FIFA and got addicted. I played hardcore from 2010 to 2023. I was even near pro level around 2017-18. The level of predatory microtransactions EA, Take 2 etc. do is absolutely pathetic. Basically gave 10 year old me a gambling addiction. Luckily as an adult I was able to get out of it. But man I feel so awful for all the naive little kids getting sucked in like I was in the late 2000s One thing I disagree with is that you said the new EA soccer game was better because it’s different. Unfortunately that’s not true, it’s way, way worse.

[@wcapeling]

I hate exclusive licenses, not even just for sports but also motorsports and cars in racing games

[@ryanpedersen5468]

“Vague Texas Football Coach” was spot on actually…

[@KaraKubed]

no fr i swear i went back to the locker room when he brought that voice out

[@wimpwilson]

Some seem to think it was terrible 😂 just happy I put the word vaguely in there

[@CalicoAidan]

This was a great relaying of thoughts, microtransactions are one thing but the shift towards 'realism' and sowing the seeds for clunky mechanisms galore never sat right with me. For me Football peaked with Fifa 13 and Rugby with Rugby 08, the only series which I can genuinely say feels stronger year-on-year is Football Manager. The era of major orgs churning out mild rehashes generally hasn't been a kind one to the genre.

[@ColdSpringKid]

Brooo this is hilarious and accurate ASL love it new sub

[@wimpwilson]

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the sub 😊

[@IsaacLHarrison]

Nice work matey! Your accents arent that bad.

[@w3s10]

1:15 basic summary of all of England's history

[@wimpwilson]

😂

[@cliffo2000]

Nice! Good to see Rugby League live in the montage 👌