Star Trek: First Contact #1 - Atop the Fourth Wall

Welcome to Atop the Fourth Wall, where bad comics burn. In this episode, Linkara reviews the comic adaptation of Star Trek: First Contact
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Originally uploaded September 22nd, 2014.
ORIGINAL INFO: It removes all character and emotion and individuality. No, not the Borg - the dreaded comic adaptation of a movie.
RUMINATIONS: Years ago, when I had planned to review the comic, I was actually thinking it would end with a fight between me and a Borg. I bought some costuming material off of eBay for that express purpose - a homemade Borg costume utilizing tubes and football padding that probably would have worked very well. However, that probably wasn’t going to happen just thanks to the changing sensibilities of the show when it came to random fights with fictional characters that had kind of fallen by the wayside for review shows… my own included. However, as it happened, I was going to be attending a convention with the Blockbuster Buster, doing a second crossover with him - this time on Flash Gordon. As such, he asked me to include a teaser for the crossover at the end of the episode. Normally I prefer not to do that kind of thing since I want the show to be mostly self-contained, but hey, it didn’t really hurt anything, so here’s the link to that crossover if you’d like to see:
www.zippcast.com/video/36db189...
For the youtube reupload, this one actually required a lot of re-editing. Aside from the fact that I show a lot of movie and TV clips that needed to be pared down to avoid ContentID issues, there was actually an entire sequence where I never had the comic panels moving. Not sure how I missed that when I was initially editing - I usually watch each sequence when I finish editing a part of it, but fortunately for the youtube edition I was able to actually make the sequence edited and not just still shots of the comic. I'm guessing I missed it because I was going out of town at the time for a convention and just was rushing the editing, but that's just sloppy of me.
If you've been paying attention to the background, this episode also showed the culmination of all the cybermats slowly taking over the shelves before just disappearing, which lead into the finale of the storyline where we see just how many cybermats there are now...

[@Mewchu14]

Fun fact: The Borg's plan to travel through time in order to take over Earth in the past canonically comes from an encounter with the Cybermen and the Doctor in a comic crossover between Star Trek and Doctor Who.

[@Mewchu14]

oh.

[@adambesley4455]

I'm so glad I'm not the only Star Trek fan who found Picard's hatred of the Borg totally justifiable. Yes screaming in fury whilst gunning one down is a bit extreme but considering all the damage the Borg did in this movie alone feeling enraged would be a natural feeling for most people.

[@tylerromo854]

CruelestChris ptsd my friend

[@adambesley4455]

I don't buy the Crystalline Entity example as a justification. The Entity strips entire worlds and kills all life on them to stay alive. Yes it's a wholly unique life-form but when it comes to its singular life against potential billions Picard's attitude looked rather selfish. Every time I watch that episode I sympathize more with the woman who eventually killed it even if she was doing it for revenge. This does come down to personal interpretation but I don't think Picard got past his animosity. A lot of people parrot Red Letter Media (he also used that Crystalline Entity example) pointing out that Picard showed mercy to Hugh however that decision back-fired horribly and the results would've weighed heavily on Picard's conscience. Add on the fresh trauma of what the Borg have just done; destroyed another Fleet, tried to literally erase everything Picard values and assimilated half the crew of the Enterprise. Then of course there's the issue of the Enterprise. The loss of the Enterprise D is also probably pretty fresh in his mind so losing the new one to the Borg is the straw that broke the camels back after all the horrors that happened. As he puts it; "I will not sacrifice the Enterprise, we've made too many compromises already." Being enraged is not in character for Picard but he can become highly emotional under certain circumstances; absorbing Sarek's emotions, his fight with Robert, being tortured by Madred, this is no exception. And he knew that if he threw Wesley out of the airlock he probably never get a chance with Beverly.

[@SuzanneHomemaker]

Question as someone who has little knowledge of Star Trek, why not use a normal gun like the ones from now and days; the borg's shields should only protect against thermal energy not kinetic and the fleshy parts of them should be easy to penetrate and kill. The tommy gun used by Picard seemed to work perfectly well even though only firing 45acp rounds which are while on the high end of pistol calibers are still small rounds.

[@cps2204]

I'm a lifelong Star Trek fan, and I have been wondering exactly this ever since I saw the movie in theaters so many years ago. Anyone else who can chime in here, would greatly appreciate some clarity.@@SuzanneHomemaker

[@jfdrac]

@@SuzanneHomemaker Which ironically in this case is a massive plothole. Picard is actually NOT using a tommy gun on them.....He is on the Holodeck and even of Safeties are off its still not a real gun he replicated so it would still be energy the Bprg could defend against lol

[@zachgamemaster3329]

My head cannon is that The Borg Queen has many bodys. She just choose this one because It's probably the most normal for Data.

[@chefdean7257]

Zach Gamemaster The only Head Cannon I ever saw was on Fulgore . . . ;-)

[@youwayo]

Zach Gamemaster what would the other bodies look like?

[@OrangeRangerVideos]

That doesn't quite work. It's fine for the mechanical component, and I have no trouble imagining that she has multiple mechanical bodies for various things that need to be done. But, she has a BIOLOGICAL aspect, which is a real person that was assimilated and chosen for the task. I can sort of buy that that there might be a Queen "consciousness" that can maybe be transmitted to different bodies within the Hive, but especially since as we see her, the Queen is just a torso biologically, that's probably not the case.

[@user-zk6vn2xg4r]

i had this idea that the Borg queen's true form is like a robotic insect Xenomorph thing with tubes and stuff

[@KertaDrake]

@@OrangeRangerVideos Personally, I could easily see her being alive, but capable of Cylon-style downloading into new bodies as needed to explain her surviving deaths. I do wonder if she's meant to be something akin to embodiment of the maximum extent of Borg Perfection though, as in the full extent to which they can replace the weak organic bits while keeping the biological strengths intact...

[@firefly4f4]

About the Oscar rant here: Can we add Star Trek Beyond losing to Suicide Squad to that? I'm sorry, but even taking Croc & Enchantress into account, I honestly don't see how anyone can say that movie had better make-up than the amazing alien designs in Beyond.

[@nathanthompson4613]

Regardless of quality, I’d agree that Beyond had more effort put into the makeup, and much more interesting designs. Also, I’ve never really invested much time into Star Trek, but I always enjoy seeing massive swarms, so the “battles” with the Bees were satisfying to watch just because there were so many. I probably sound stupid

[@jfdrac]

@@nathanthompson4613 BEES...MY GAWD

[@KertaDrake]

As long as you discount them dipping into the "villain must resemble orcs" line of thinking still creeping in here and there. Everything else in that movie was pretty creative, but ever since Nemesis they keep falling back on making bad guys that look like orcs. Sure, they try to break away from that occasionally, but in the end they can't resist dipping back into the "bad guys must look extra-generically evil" mindset that is only limited by not giving them a mustache to twirl.

[@repulser93]

@@KertaDrake Ironically, I'm pretty sure Into Darkness mostly avoided that.

[@fallsilently8666]

I remember the "It's the green button, right?" and "nasty rash" lines from the novelization of the movie. Maybe both were in the original script that the comic and novel writers were given to work with, and then changed or improvised by the actors.

[@pickering86]

Around 24:30 - not enough praise is ever given to Picard for his memory. The guy has, at least, a thousand people under his command, but he still recognises the ensign and knows his name. I've got, like, 40 co-workers, and I still struggle to put names to faces. You could argue that, as captain of the flagship of starfleet, he can pick and choose the best people in starfleet to serve under him, so he'd have some idea who his crew are. But still, 1000 people!

[@JaelinBezel]

Your profile image... I recognize that silhouette. THAT'S FROM MY LITTLE PONY! D:

[@ntigdona7487]

him recognising one doesn't mean he knows all of them. in fact, i vaguely remember him asking characters for their names in the show!

[@OrangeRangerVideos]

Something that I didn't catch until just now that is a REALLY great touch. I wondered why there were blank spaces behind Linkara and then I realized...the Cybermats aren't there. The only one that is there is a Plushie Cybermat, which obviously wouldn't be real. "GREAT CONTINUITY!", and no sarcasm in the reference!

[@PokemonHaloFan]

My third favorite Star Trek movie after Wrath of Kahn and Undiscovered Country. Fond memories of watching this as a kid. Man the Borg scared the crap out of me back then. Hell they still scare the crap out of me.

[@Tareltonlives]

Same!

[@alyssinwilliams4570]

The Picard scene with his fury about the Borg may be one of the *greatest* film scenes of all time, to my mind.

[@atomicninjaduck9200]

Thank you for that defense of Picard's "extreme" behavior in this movie. I cannot tell you how many times I've run into people who think it's totally out of character for him, and hate the movie on that basis (or at least think it's only "okay"). Personally, I've always maintained that Picard never actually had another encounter with the Borg Collective before this movie. Hugh? Not connected to the collective. The rogue Borg under Lore? Also not a part of the collective, and behaving quite differently, to boot. It's hearing the collective again that pushes him over the edge. Not just seeing Borg.

[@Saxcat20]

First Contact has such a nice music theme. Love it.

[@eamonndeane587]

One of Jerry Goldsmith's finest musical creations.

[@KidSnivy69]

13:53-14:09 Don't worry Linkara, a lot of people are like that. I can't remember most of my accounting lessons to save my live, but ask me about Digimon, Baccano, Power Rangers just to name a few and I can answer in seconds

[@thomasjenkins7506]

+KidSnivy69 ask me for a walkthrough of final fantasy 4 (a game i haven't played in about 10 years), and i'll give step by step, detailed directions. ask me about anything i may have learned in college and i'll give you nothing but blank stares.

[@Axioanarchist]

+KidSnivy69 Pokemon, Chrono Trigger, SNES-era Final Fantasy, D&D, and any books by Brandon Sanderson or Jim Butcher here. Can recite off info in a heartbeat. Anything I learned in high school or college? Good luck if I can remember the basics....

[@starwarsnerd100]

+KidSnivy69 It's a common phenomenon, people tend to remember things they find interesting or important.

[@KidSnivy69]

starwarsnerd100 I take it your that way with Star Wars? (If not sorry for assuming)

[@starwarsnerd100]

+KidSnivy69 Gasp! How could you have possibly guessed that I liked Star Wars XD. And yes, I can name the species (and sometimes backstory) of most of the weird aliens that appear in the Mos Eisley Cantina or Jabba's Palace.

[@danieldb631]

Well, you might be able to use a flame thrower to defeat the Borg, but then you might set your 'own damn ship' on fire. However, the movie suggests that the Borg might not be able to adapt against kinetic weaponry. Picard empties an entire magazine from a Thompson into two drones and both of them had time to adapt. So, why not replicate some P90s? They're compact enough to fit in the replicator dispenser port, they're light weight, and they're a precision weapon, so you don't waste ammo on the semi-auto fire mode. Aside from that, they're considered a primitive weapon by the Borg and therefor would be overlooked as a threat.

[@Acrosurge]

Not to mention, Picard was using holographic bullets (energy enclosed in textured force fields). There is no reason to believe the Borg could not adapt to this had Picard tried it again. And no reason to believe chemically or magnetically propelled physical projectiles would have any better effect on the Borg, since, as you mentioned, Data can shrug off automatic gun fire. Why shouldn't the Borg adapt to this as they do everything else? Yes, the Borg have allowed Starfleet crew to go hand to hand with them, but this makes sense, as it places Starfleet officers well within range of the Borg's assimilation tubules.

[@MeepChangeling]

Except that wasn't a Thomson. That was a hard light construct. They were not hit with lead. They were hit with holograms.

[@Sephirothwolf]

Plus the fire suppression systems would deoxygenate fires rather than be water-based. Also pretty sure thats why they came up with that Sniper Rifle that popped up in DS9, or was at least one of the reasons for it

[@Tareltonlives]

Easy answer to Borg: Bayonets

[@jennifermoriarty2188]

Schwarzer Ritter the borg have organic parts ....

[@alyssinwilliams4570]

I have a fun story re this film: I went and saw the premier episode in my city (YYC), being hosted by our local star trek fan club; my (ex)gf and I went. The theater opened up half an hour before film time, for a little presentation/MCing/whatnot from the star trek club, and among other things they did ST trivia, and there was a Borg cube piniata that trivia-winners would whack. The stick being used to whack the cube BROKE. The Borg can adapt to *anything* it seems!

[@volcanicwinter4417]

The Borg Queen IS the Borg. I bring order to chaos: The Borg bring order to the chaos between all the species in the galaxy.

[@KertaDrake]

And ironically their combined voices sound like chaos personified in the form of a white noise generator...

[@ssu-haolu3736]

I have a lot of respect for Picard as a Captain!

[@Tareltonlives]

Saw this movie again last night. I'm really enjoying it more than I did before.

[@Tareltonlives]

Like in Wrath of Khan, they cut out all the character bits!

[@SBaby]

22:52 - Another way I look at the Borg is they're kind of like an ant colony. In ant colonies, the Queen lays eggs and is one of the most protected members of the colony, but she isn't necessarily their leader or the one in charge of the colony. She's just another member of the colony that has a specific function, like the 'Borg Queen'.

[@SBaby]

Also it's likely the Borg are polygynous and have multiple Queens, which explains why there's another Borg Queen in Voyager. Everything else about that two-parter... Ok, enough beating around the bush. I didn't like the finale of Voyager, at all.

[@histguy101]

There's only one queen, and she can appear anywhere, on any ship. She can't be destroyed because she exists everywhere there are Borg. She is brought out and assembled as needed.

[@andrewe3165]

Guessing the fedora is some multi-levelled irony.

[@shmee123ful]

as for the Borg queen, I like what you said in this Linkara and mostly agree. However while I have nothing to back this up. I think there may be a few other reason's that may explain why she is the way she is.one. species 01. as we know its more than likely the Borg or what ever they ere called originally evolved as any other organic species would normal would however eather because they had to, or wanted to they started putting tech in their bodys and someware down the line thought it would be a good idea that everyone should have tech inside their bodys. The queen could be a remnant of that time, perhaps species 01.was a monarchy and the borg for what ever reason the borg wanted to keep that aspect around. two. its a more recent thing. Perhaps sometime ago (though more recently, say with in the last few hundred years or so) the Borg were stagnating or facing a crises. an enemy species that were kicking their ass or some kind of natural disaster or plague either biological or technological. and the Borgs solution was the queen, a extremely spealised drone with a more intact independent mind that could think outside the Borgs BOX and offer new solutions. to issues they couldn't solve though their normal means. eg throw drones at it. I mean that's petty much what the Queen said to seven of nine dueing the two partner dark frontier. that for all their might and collective intelligence. they need new input and new ideas otherwise they can not be perfect. 3. she's a server. think about how much technology or even just science or even just weird space stuff the Borg must invent, encounter or assimilate on a daily basses. someone has got to keep track of all that and make sure the Borg aren't wasting their time chasing dead ends. and that every update and every species works harmoniously together. think about it, a species of fish people are going to have different needs than, a species of bird people whom will have different needs to so on and so on. plus all the different tech and biology's and that's just the humanoid species.

[@ntigdona7487]

personally, i think it miht have started with captain picard... i think thats when they adapted a new position of borg queen!

[@Shiirow]

I loved the mirror universe episodes of Enterprise though, they were the best prime cut ham one can get. Plus they redid the meeting of Cocrane and the Vulcans. He goes to shake their hands, pauses then goes 'Nah' and pulls out a gun to shoot one of them.

[@jakebryant3445]

XD

[@SpeedyEric1]

I also love Star Trek: First Contact as much as The Wrath of Khan, mostly because I was scared as Hell when I first saw the TNG episode "The Best of Both Worlds," where Picard become Locutus of Borg.

[@Bauglir100]

15:05 "To hell with the Phoenix!" That's okay. I'm more of a Farsight kind of guy, myself.

[@jeremyneill227]

One of the most major problems with film to comic adaptations is pacing, comics need to be paced in a certain way, and film pacing does not translate well into comics.

[@Cpt50Caliber]

Love First Contact. I got SO freakin' scared when I first saw it, the Borg used to scare the hell out of me.

[@jakebryant3445]

Hey I liked the 2009 film

[@orcatwar9810]

to me it was alright

[@KonElKent]

Me too!

[@shmee123ful]

actually fun and basic fact about how ballistic and ballistic resistant material's work. their is no such thing as bullet proof material's (exempt maybe diamond's but that's something to discus for a different day) only bullet resistant if their enough damaged, force and speed put towards any structure (man made or other wise) even if its not all at once and done over time. any structure can be damaged by any amount of force it just takes time or over whelming that structures tolerances. for example if you hit a mountain with enough expositive shell's the mountain will eventually go away or if you the same mountain with say a metro then it will also go away.now how dose this work in regards to body armour. like Linkara joked about data have or even the borg. well take something like Kevlar body armour and fire a bullet into it and more than likely the vest of armour will take the round with minimal damage. (well it will take the damage but it should be variable for taking an other few rounds.) but if you shot an arrow at a Kevlar vest the arrow is likely to go right a though and armour plate. because of sciencantific principles that I can barley under stand but ive seen it in action as I worked as a range officer for a year. now what about the borg I hear you ask? how douse take pertain to energy shield's? well I suposs every drone has some form of internal power supplie that runs their doo-dads and their bodys. this is why they regenerate In those alcoves instead of eating and sleeping they have a battery inside them that they use for their day to day actives.now say they git hit by a phaser, after the phaser has hit three drones the forth would seem to be immune but it really isn't because of conservation of energy. every time that drone gets hit by the same phaser (and it hasn't being mod out) that drone's battery is going to take a hit. and likely the implants responsible for creating the shields will be damaged. now while the drone may be able to self repair and stuff. its power is still going to be drained, the more you hit it, the more the battery will be drained. only problem is its going to take a bloody long time to drain that battery.just be thankful that for all their advancements the Borg haven't cracked wireless energy yet. otherwise the drones would never need to stop to recharge themselves at an alove. In less the aloves is more than just a battery recharger

[@ntigdona7487]

in the real world, no.. in star trek, i would bet half my money that there are bulet proff materials!and no, shield being easly panatrable by matter in star trek is just stuppid!

[@PhatGirlLuvr68Comix]

I'm going to watch the movie again right now.

[@andreworders7305]

I miss the days of reviewers fighting fictional characters for no reason. Darn you changing times!

[@SBaby]

27:07 - Yeah, that's a scene they really should NOT have shortened, because it contains major character development for Picard and him calling Worf a coward is, you know, a REALLY BIG DEAL, especially after EVERYTHING THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH IN THE SERIES!!! Not something to leave out of a comic adaptation.

[@andrewmihovich4252]

STOKEEERRR Wasn't the Borg's plan to assimilate Earth in the past all along, or at least from the beginning of the movie? (You could still ask why they didn't travel back in time, *then* warp over to First Contact-era Earth, and therefore not face any resistance, but it never seemed to me like it was a spur-of-the-moment idea on the part of the escape pod.) ...wait, I missed one. PREVIOUSLY, ON STAR TREK: "What we leave behind is not as important as how we lived. After all, Number One, we're only mortal." AND NOW, THE CONCLUSION. "Also, it's not like they're main characters, so who cares?" Regarding the Borg Queen: Like she says 22:00 minutes in, she's not just the Collective's "leader". "I am The Beginning. I am The End. I am The-One-Who-Is-Many. I *am* the Borg." ...in a single, somewhat smoother-talking body. So, does this adaptation make any mention at all of not only space travel itself, but -- like the movie does -- everything *else* that First Contact does to Earth? All those cuts, and they *also* left out Picard reciting, "And he piled upon the whale's white hump the sum of all the rage and hate felt by his whole race. If his chest had been a cannon, he would have shot his heart upon it."? Dang.

[@StarryOak76]

Did you know? Zefram Cochrane is bipolar, according to the novelization of the movie, which, as a bipolar person, I can say with certainty, makes me SUPER happy. So I'm gonna take it.

[@aaa1e2r3]

Nice timing to have this with air the same week you did Flesh and Stone

[@noahsark4528]

FIRST CONTACT is such a masterpiece

[@davidspring4003]

anyone else notice how the Borg are basically the same future that Gene Rodenberry envisioned for TNG?

[@Banchoking]

What do you mean?

[@davidspring4003]

Banchoking Gene Rodenberry's future (at least in TNG, before he got booted off his own show) is one where no one disagrees with each other, everyone gets along, and everyone works together for the benefit of the community, often to the detriment of creativity or individuality. Only within species, mind.

[@Banchoking]

David Spring Oh. Yeah, that vibe is kind of why I never really got into Star Trek.

[@davidspring4003]

Banchoking eh, I was just never that interested. But it's really a matter of taste. Everything we like is silly in its own way.

[@davidspring4003]

I didn't know he died just after season 2 of TNG. I knew he was dead, just didn't know when it happened.

[@myriadmediamusings]

Your counterarguments against the critiques are great because they exemplify a problem I’ve always had; when people critique based on surface level exposure and not think through.

[@tenchiofJurai67]

OMFG, I FUCKING LOST MY SHIT AT THE THOUGHT OF PICARD MOONING THE BORG! XDDD Best. Joke. Ever!

[@starwarsnerd100]

I'm pretty sure this was my first exposure to Star Trek as a kid, or at the very least my first Star Trek film. Maybe its the Star Wars fan in me, but I like Star Trek to have a little action in it. Contrary to popular belief you CAN have action without dumbing things down.

[@KidSnivy69]

That probably explains why I prefer Trek

[@orcatwar9810]

same thing happened to me as well (it was ether this or Nemesis)

[@ntigdona7487]

star trek has always had a little action in it; from kirk's neck chomps to space battles etc, its just that they are generaly poorly shown, with most of what we see being the shaking from turpedoes hitting the hull!

[@elijahblechman8633]

I prefer my star trek to a like bit more sophisticated then say star wars. However I do really enjoy the action in certain films.

[@SasukeUchiha-ix2yk]

I don't know about a flamethrower, but I figure the good old BFG could take care of them

[@orcatwar9810]

well from the DOOM movie it does structure damage soooooooooooooo? not a good fit for the ship

[@joshgellis3292]

In the episodes involving the Borg, Picard was calm as they were not nearly as depicted as menacing as in the movie. The movie section of the history of the Borg, they're MUCH worse! TIME TRAVELLING!

[@AbyssalPrince]

Now please note I'm more of a Star Wars Fan then a Star Trek fan since the Borg can adapt to energy weapons why not go old school on them like Guns that use bullets and swords and Grenades since they still need some human parts to function

[@Tareltonlives]

I always wondered that; since Picard's tommy gun and Worf's knife did some serious damage to them. I suspect the Federation is more interested in destroying them ship to ship since once they're boarded they're already in trouble.

[@ntigdona7487]

because using regular guns in star trek and having them prove to be effective anywhere would be stupid... i mean, the question of why they haven't developed armor or personal shielding is already enough of an anoyance withought sugesting that a regular they don't even have the means to protect themselves from regular guns!

[@keyblademasterclark]

I think Linkara just pulled a Secret Wars on us with that portal

[@jakebryant3445]

Not to mention that even Q is terrified of the Borg

[@averagegamecritic]

My only guess is that as you said they are crude and functional. It would be annoying to make a custom body versus just rolling with what's around.

[@lorddrayvon1426]

It's probably not a coincidence that the Borg are similar to the Cybermen since they debuted in the Next Generation episode "Q-Who" on August 7th 1991 and the Cybermen debuted (as the Mandoshan Cybermen) in the episode "The 10th Planet" which was also Hartnell's final story on October 8th 1966.

[@lorddrayvon1426]

Also, anyone else find it funny that the main antagonists of Star Trek took 25 years to debut and have appeared in only 100 episodes and actually only 21 episodes and one movie you don't count Seven of Nine which I don't since he was de-Borgified?

[@DreFromMaine8472]

This is one of my favorite Trek comics ever, a great adaptation of a great movie, while not without it's flaws, was still the best of the TNG era movies IMO!

[@bdpickett]

Yay! Story Bits!

[@Bussani]

They used up all the blue for the quantum torpedoes on the deflector dish. But hey, that original enterprise e toy with the weird bussard collectors also had a red deflector dish if I remember right, so...could be worse.

[@Shadethewolfy]

The funny part about Linkara's spider robot body quip is this: Just 2 years later in Future's End, he would be criticizing the spider body. Irony for the sake of comedy or just a change of tastes?

[@andrewmihovich4252]

"Fortunately, he now has the ability to switch [his emotion chip] off... which is something you would definitely want when one of the sounds the assimilated section makes is 'SLURP!'." Simon Furman? Is that you? Shenanigans? :O

[@TeamAonn]

12:18 - The green button comment was taken from the book... not sure why they put it in there, maybe it was in the original script but cut... I'd have to look it up.

[@tfmaster96]

After hearing the flamethrower idea, all I’m left thinking is: “Why the hell hasn’t there been a Star Trek/the thing crossover?!”

[@histguy101]

There is. It's called "Regeneration"

[@tfmaster96]

@@arcahmwinters70 maybe. especially if it was in voyager. (sorry it took so long to respond. youtube didn't tell me someone replied to one of my comments again)

[@tfmaster96]

@@histguy101 really? I think I gotta' check it out.

[@oliversmith4548]

One plot hole from the movie: How does Worf have self-destruct codes for the Enterprise-E? He was on DS9 at this point. He wasn't serving on the Enterprise anymore.

[@thetruewisegamer]

Maybe given the code off screen or remembers the last one(i know new ship but since it easier to use older passwords) maybe they never change it

[@1987MartinT]

I love this movie.

[@fredrikcarlstedt393]

" THE WRATH OF PICARD ! "

[@SgtScorpious]

and yet first contact being screwed wouldnt be the last time star trek was robbed of a make up Oscar

[@mOnStErSonfilm]

Linkara reviewing futures end: WHY WOULD YOU GIVE THEM SPIDER LEGS. Also Linkara: I would give my self a kick ass spider body......

[@AT4W]

Because I'm not someone with superpowers and recognize that such cybernetic enhancements would probably be to MY benefit, plus to a group that does not REQUIRE a humanoid form to operate. The ones in Futures End just don't make sense.

[@mOnStErSonfilm]

@@AT4W Literally just finished bingeing all your star trek movie episodes to see your reply Made my day and totally agree with your point

[@TheseTangledWebs]

*Makes it two minutes in, decides to rewatch plinkett review of first contact for the 7th time*

[@elijahblechman8633]

Linkara is intolerable sometimes but I'd rather give him a view then those guys.

[@lordofhnajuty]

MY anti -borg Gear? AA12 with tritanium buck shots that are belt feed from a backpack. A THOMSON, the m1903 sub machine gun could kill it just fine on the holodeck. The AA12 is a fully automatic SHOTGUN with a fire rate of 5 rounds A SECOND, and has a build in recoil system that reduces the recoil by 90% making it accurate and able to fire for a long time. With the tritanium buck, it would put hole in the deck, the borg, crew members, the halls, the ceiling and haul. Literally if you have a problem, this gun will solve it before you could blink and if not, hold the trigger for a few more seconds, it won't be a problem for much longer.

[@jockhenry2672]

Except the enterprise does not use sprinklers, they use a fire suppression system that removes the air around the fire.

[@nickkurtz512]

+Linkara Hey Linkara I have two questions on my mind. One: who is your favorite Avenger and justice league member? Two: What are your thoughts on the new Star Trek show coming to tv and what will you like to see?

[@robinfalkner-wedge824]

I've spent forever trying to figure out what the borg can and can't adapt to, and the more I think about it the more confused I make myself..... Do photon torpedo's deal any kinetic energy based damege or do they just release photons all over the place? Because it's pretty dang important if they can adapt to kinetic energy or not (if not then chuck an asteroid at them or hit them with a hammer etc, if so then how worf get so many of them with his knife before they adapted?)

[@bioticninja2170]

I like to think of the Borg Queen as the democracy equivalent to the otherwise anarchy of Twitch Plays- I mean, the Borg

[@KertaDrake]

Wonder if she has a verbal tick of randomly shouting "Praise Helix!!!" if you hang around her long enough. No wonder she's wanting an equal so badly... She must put a TON of effort just getting a single cube to Earth and not have it wander off into the Gamma Quadrant!

[@MicrowavedAlastair5390]

23:00 So... My high school band teacher is secretly the Borg leader. He can shut up 200+ kids all talking at once faster than anyone I know.

[@RichardWatt]

Linkara - yeah, Data's code would be "password". He wouldn't be like Garibaldi and use "peekaboo".

[@LordZack1]

It's not inconceivable that Data could be bulletproof, but nonetheless able to be pierced by arrows.

[@jfdrac]

Little disappointing that when she called Picard Captain Ahab....You did not use a clip of him AS CAPTAIN AHAB from the Moby Dick series lol

[@andych8425]

well, I think one can question why at least the Enterprise E was not recalled and Picard replaced with someone else. They did it to him in Chain of Command I and II, I don't see why Starfleet would not do it again, citing wanting more experts and veterans like Commander Shelby, or Jellico. Heck, give command to Riker, since he, I don;t know, saved Earth in Best of Both Worlds.

[@lanningboy6586]

Oh yeah and by the way Star Trek the Next Generation I found on Netflix so if you're interested see there you go

[@tfmaster96]

something about the title card reminds me of a picture of sonata dusk and sunset shimmer I've seen before. coincidence?

[@ebwarg]

Anyone else notice partially organic Data's resemblance to Black Jack?

[@tjjordan4207]

I have only two issues with the First Contact film. I completely buy that Picard would want vengeance against the Borg, that makes sense (despite what others say), but what doesn't make sense to me is why Picard doesn't go for the "lets activate the self-destruct sequence" idea. I mean, he wants to get back at them, wouldn't destroying them before they can take over the ship and therefor takeover humanity be his best way to get vengeance? The second issue is the person they got to play Zefram Cochrane. I mean no offense to James Cromwell, he does okay in his role, but I always thought that the character should be in his 30s, not late 50s. But aside from that, this was a surprisingly good film.

[@andreworders7305]

I''l be back for this one. I'm skipping since you said its a good movie, and I'm making my way through Star Trek (slowly).

[@timf7413]

Can we talk about the fact that Picard starts the film (and this comic) taking a nap in his ready room. As much as I like this film, it always bugged me that Picard was depicted as nodding off while (presumably) on duty.

[@Tareltonlives]

To be fair, Starfleet was basically kicking him out of main duty. They just wanted him to stay out of the way.

[@timf7413]

Considering that he does actually hear the Borg in his thoughts, I've always found it hard to fault the fact that they were worried over that. (as the film is set up to make the audience do) Great film (the best of the TNG ones certainly), those little bits just always bugged me.

[@JohnCKirk]

Looking at the video blurb, the zippcast link to the crossover episode no longer works. I think this is the new link: www.dailymotion.com/video/x3zg6ax

[@takashizumoku8993]

Well linkara, the reason why the creators couldn't give the Borg queen a spider like appearance is because of the technical limitations during that time period. It's was a clever hypothesis though.

[@DOWSOE]

flawed, but an excellent movie. The Wrath of Khan of TNG if you will. Nemesis is hands down garbage.

[@chrisshaw1294]

+DOWSOE "The Wrath of Khan of TNG if you will", or the EXACT thing that Linkara said in the beginning of the video.. wow DOWSOE, you are soooo original and witty, how did you come up with that..ohhhh.....

[@DOWSOE]

Chris Shaw huh........well admittedly I skipped the opening. and other parts.

[@adcon00]

DOWSOE Nemesis' final battle was pretty good, though

[@TheAllSeeingEye2468]

i have a question, how did the borg start? like who built them and why?

[@AT4W]

Never stated in the show itself. Non-canon material like the novels and video games have tossed out a few ideas, but nothing that interesting.

[@tavila]

Are their any DS9 comics? I'd love to see a review of that and a crossover with sfdebris that would be awesome! patron supporter get on it!

[@davidspring4003]

just wondering, will the crossover be put up on this channel and if not, where can we find it?

[@JaelinBezel]

6:51 He was transported... to another world... to a world where monsters rule (Monsters Rule!)

[@HiperPivociarz]

I don't get it, how the heck are borg able to suddenly update? I mean, if they upgraded their parts after battle with starfleet it would make sence, but they just suddenly are able to adapt to your weapon

[@Drakespawn85]

+HiperPivociarz As far as I'm aware, they have shields that can completely block any kind of (energy) weapon, but not all of them at the same time. So if one of them gets taken down, all the others receive a signal or something about what killed that drone and re-adjust their shields accordingly. That's where the "Change our weapons' frequency"-part comes from, it was established in one of the earliest Borg-episodes, that, as long as you use a different (ideally random) frequency after every shot, drones and ships can't reliably adapt and you can keep hitting them.

[@jbwarner8626]

This comic cut the two best parts of the movie: Robert Picardo's cameo as the Enterprise-E's EMH, and "You're all astronauts on... some kind of star trek!" That alone makes it inferior.

[@9-bitfox]

Fox: Spider Mechakara for At4w the movie 2

[@jakebryant3445]

I'm thinking Ancient Egypt should have a role in the sequel

[@9-bitfox]

Fox Ancient egyptian Mecha spiderKara

[@JKAzrael247]

So Linkara has to fight the Goa'uld?...... NEATO! :)

[@jfdrac]

@@JKAzrael247 Now that would be awesome

[@samuelbarber4154]

Is there a comic of War of the Worlds? I just want to know your opinions on that story.

[@hannibalbrown]

Whatd you think of the Plinkett review of first contact? he seemed to hate it

[@Robbinson98]

16:13 did the Cinema Snob take over writing for a sec here?

[@DetectorCliche]

32:24 Hey I was born 13 days before that.

[@nathanthompson4613]

I know the Borg because my dad is also a massive Star Trek fan, but I am unfamiliar with Doctor Who. How did the Cybermen concept compare and contrast with the Borg?

[@AT4W]

The Borg are about having a collective consciousness and assimilation is the primary goal - to elevate assimilated species closer to perfection. The Cybermen became the way they are initially in order to survive - their planet was slowly dying and the only way they'd be able to survive the catastrophic changes occurring was to replace most of their biological components with robotic ones. Over time, their goal of survival transformed into conquest - THAT was the best way to ensure survival in their eyes. Converting people into cybermen is a secondary goal and they could just as happily destroy anything in their way. And depending on what era of Cybermen you encounter, their emotional level is different (as is their level of sophistication).

[@Earthstar_Review]

23:00 I feel that a simple governor program would have fitted the Borg much better. Voyager could have visited a Borg planet where they interact with drones whose thoughts are clearly truncated as evidence of this governor. And then we could avoid the sexy Borg nightmares.

[@SilverSurfer166]

I'm reluctant to argue with one so versed in Star Trek Lore, but Link said that "Star Trek 4" was the worst of the original movies. ST4 is widely considered to the best movie, after "The Wraith of Khan" of course. The Star Trek movie with the Whales (that's my nickname for ST4) was also one of the highest grossing ST movies to be made. Still like your videos, Linkara.

[@kanebravo953]

Will Evans He never said it was the worst. He was making a joke at how ridiculous the premise was, which it was. Also, in his review of the comic adaptation of Voyage Home, he said he loved the movie. Also also, Star Trek Insurrection.....need I say more?

[@thaneoflions9576]

Agreed fire would be effective- but throwing ignited combustible fluids in and around the oxygen rich enclosed spaces of a starship with no fire control implemented would be catastrophic. Fire and ships don't mix! Also- remember when all those Irish immigrants were in the storage bay and lasers automatically targeted the garbage can fire they tried to light? 🦁 awesome content brother!

[@chefdean7257]

Thane Of Lions Or using Fire Suppression Systems against Borg? ;-)

[@MitchellTF]

...I actually want to see the original script now. I think I'm gonna have that be a thing in one of my 'numerous alternate dimensions' works... (Cheesy but awesome, so it wasn't a franchise killer)

[@starwarsnerd100]

12:31 I would agree with you that comic adaptations of movies are no longer necessary in the era of DVDs, BUT I know that lots of Star Wars fans were clamoring for a comic adaptation of The Force Awakens (which is in production now), so apparently there IS a market for them.

[@1rhpsfan]

(Raising a bottle of Seagrams Escape Passionfruit Mango) To Old Guys drinking!

[@dakotadoyle7573]

I thought the holodeck had safeguards to prevent it from making real weapons

[@AT4W]

If you disengage the safety protocols, even a holographic bullet can kill.

[@tokubrony9447]

19:16-19:22 Wait... is that the Doctor from Voyager?

[@jfdrac]

indeed it is

[@astrocitizen]

Does anyone know the artist and the song fro the end credits? Thanks!

[@ConorCarlisle]

Did Zephram Cochrane make any appearances on Enterprise? I haven't seen much of the series and I admit I'm curious.

[@LetsTakeWalk]

Yes. I think in a recorded speech and a recut of the scene from the movie, used for an alternative universe episode, where Cochrane killed the Vulcans.

[@jasongradyphstiger6179]

Ah the mirror universe.

[@craigdickson308]

The link to the crossover with the Blockbuster Buster doesn't work. It appears that only the version on dailymotion still exists. This link atopthefourthwall.com/the-blockbuster-buster-linkara-flash-gordon/ will get you too that version.