SteamOS 3 is Finally Happening

[@apexberserker3057]

I feel it should be mentioned that valve has outright stated they are not trying to compete with windows. that being said... i can't wait for windows to have some competition.

[@mdexterc2894]

Not trying to, because they don't have to. Microsoft gaming survives entirely on exclusivity at this point. With Wine 10 and ntsynch coming soon, there is no question about which is the better OS

[@pixels_2124]

Even then, they are directly competing with them when it comes to gaming, and even in Windows itself, they're winning.

[@SireDragonChester]

Ms has a choke hold on Pc Industry. With both hardware and software (gaming included). Ms has bullied all other os out business or threaten then with lawyers. IBM OS/2 Warp was originally being supported by ms, then they decided it was a threat to windows and they had them shutdown. I still have os/2 warp box somewhere in storage. With zero competition, ms has zero reason for any innovation, thus why windows 11 has become so bloated. We need steam os for some proper competition. And imo steam os/proton (Vulkan.api) is way better then anything windows has ever done. Vulkan is open source. Neither window or DX 11/12 are open source. Valve told all devs back 2015 to use vulkan over bloated DX 12. Nobody listened. They created showed world they know what they talking about. Steam deck/steam os and proton are all proof of that success. And often many windows games run better under linux vs native windows. So yeah I am very excited for when steam os comes to desktop pc. Valve may not openly say they competing with windows for Pc gaming. But imo they need too. My only concern is I hope they have GTX gpu support. As I can’t afford atm to replace my old GTX 1080ti. And we all know Linux Nvidia support atm, though slowly getting better. It’s still hit or miss. With windows 10 EOL coming soon. I hope steam os is out for desktop before EOL of win10.

[@u-k]

@@mdexterc2894 wine 10 is already out

[@kilteddwarf]

@@SireDragonChester the default nvidia-drivers package on debian works for gtx 9xx and higher -> have 3 pc's for lanparties with a gtx 980 (one has a 970, because 500w builds and with the i7 950 overclocked it's kind of hard to fit the 980 in) all run debian, have wine, lutris and steam on it... so about everything runs on them...

[@jeffg492]

Don't you mean SteamOS 2, Episode 2?

[@siz1700]

Steam OS floor(pi)?

[@FrostDagger]

cant count to 3

[@hundvd_7]

SteamOS Alyx when

[@asphalt2554]

@@hundvd_7 SteamOS Deskjob

[@xXLeandro12]

​@@FrostDagger why do you think they're naming now steamos 3?

[@roternando]

hell yeah imma use steam os. can't wait for the full release.

[@ZestyAsTech]

I’ll be interested to see how long they keep it in beta

[@MasterChief0093]

@@roternando been daily driving it for months with my steam deck as my only PC. Can confirm, it’s fantastic for casual users.

[@konukaame_]

Windows 11 will never take me alive.

[@Colzun]

Long live windos 10. The 11 is like the vista in those days

[@dunderdotten]

@@Colzun hahaha no it is not bro.

[@m4rt_]

Actually, they only announced that it's coming to other handhelds, rather than to everything as a general OS. Though, it's coming to everything... eventually, it is something they have said that they want to do when they have the time, but they are busy with other things, like bringing it to other handhelds. So they will hopefully have more time now to finally do it. Also, you can already install it on your own hardware, through the SteamDeck recovery image, but you need to have hardware similar to the SteamDeck, as the SteamDeck version only includes drivers for the stuff that it needs, and their compositor doesn't support Nvidia hardware yet. There is also community maintained Linux distributions that try to emulate what SteamOS will be when it releases, by using the stuff Valve made to get their SteamOS to work, like their compositor.

[@alternatuber6698]

Imagine if you can play GTA 6 on SteamOS 3. Would be epic

[@ZestyAsTech]

The more ground that Linux is able to gain before release, the better the chances

[@OraOraOra]

You probably can! Offline 100%, but the problem would be for online, if they implement Kernel Level Anti Cheat. CoD has it... but there are still tons of Cheaters... Easy Anti Cheat for example works perfectly fine.

[@HouseOfFunQM]

It'll have always online rubbish DRM. Like I would say 100% guarantee it will.

[@binja_]

For anyone "Waiting for SteamOS 3" to try or even switch to Linux, it's important to note that there will likely be nothing a SteamOS 3 will be able to do that any other Linux distro can't already do right now. The only difference I would be expecting compared to other distros is that it would ship with KDE Plasma as it's desktop environment and it will probably come with steam & proton preinstalled. If we're lucky the situation with anticheat will somehow someway become better with an official release of SteamOS but I really wouldn't count on that to happen, especially with just a beta release.

[@Sakonir]

wdym i can play Hell let loose on my linux machine and it has Easy Anti Cheat as far as i l know

[@gelbphoenix]

@@Sakonir And that's because the devs of Hell Let Loose have activated the Linux/Proton support in EAC. Other devs and publishers on the other hand have removed or alright refused to add AC support for SteamOS and Linux as a whole.

[@binja_]

@@Sakonir That's great but the majority of games with anti cheat either don't work or are specifically denied.

[@DemosApollo]

Its a lot easier to use for someone that doesn't want to ever use terminal

[@binja_]

@@DemosApollo SteamOS will have the same amount of terminal use as most distros. There's GUI tools for loads of stuff and any one of them that might be on SteamOS will either be preinstalled, have a preinstalled equivalent, or be installable on any other distribution.

[@m4rt_]

They are advertising it as only handheld, because it only supports handheld for now. They want to bring it to the desktop, but they have other things to do first. When they support desktop use of SteamOS, I assume they will begin advertising about it's desktop usage, rather than just handheld use. But it doesn't support desktop use yet, and their announcement was to bring it to other handhelds, not to bring it to the desktop, that is why they talk about it being handheld.

[@rains-m7x]

Already running Bazzite and Nobara OS, will install Steam OS on my Desktop Gaming PC in a heartbeat. Triple boot will I run.

[@pixels_2124]

It's not the be all end all for Windows as it's meant specifically for PC gaming, but SteamOS, its adaptation, and its continued development will absolutely benefit the rest of the Linux ecosystem, and everyone in it.

[@hnasheralneam]

This is NOT a desktop replacement, if you want an actual operating system use another Linux distro. This is like those kiosk OSes, it's meant for one specific purpose and it just does some other ones well. Valve knows this, which is why they only advertise it for its intended use. The graphical environment in the desktop mode is KDE, a complete desktop environment that Valve as a company has had little role in developing, and is already far better than Windows's.

[@MasterChief0093]

As someone who has been daily driving a steam deck for the last 6 months… it is a real OS for normies like me who pretty much just use a pc for gaming and browsing the internet. There’s multiple email clients and browsers to select from. But I just keep it simple. Thunderbird and Firefox. Discord and games. It’s perfect for those of us who only use a PC for this type of stuff. The UI is fantastic and you pretty much don’t need terminal for anything. I believe it’s perfect for people who aren’t trying to become the type of Linux user who gets into the weeds. It’s clean and it works.

[@MasterChief0093]

I’ve tinkered around with other popular distro’s and can do everything in linux without a GUI. But Valve compiled all the things together that makes it simple to use and it looks good.

[@gljames24]

​@@MasterChief0093 Bazzite has everything Steam OS has and more.

[@ChuckLopez]

I mean, its probably enough for most people.

[@highestsettings]

@@MasterChief0093 That's something that so many people in the Linux community just can't seem to get their head around. That most people want something that just works. They're undermining the very thing that might actually get people to move to Linux. "Pfft, you want SteamOS? You can't even force a stack overflow on the flux capacitor, get Arch." Not realising that all 90% of average PC users need is a browser, some office apps, maybe an email if they don't do it directly on their browser, and some other bits and pieces here and there. And of course in a lot of instances, games too. All of which SteamOS already supports, AND has the backing of a major company with a lot of capital who have a huge incentive to make sure it goes right. The thing that scares most people away from Linux is how complex it can be, and also the fact that there are 5 million distros with very minor differences that makes it overwhelming for most people. Once you research it, there's not that much to figure out. But people don't WANT to have to research which of the 5 million different distros is just right for them. The fact that Valve has thrown their hat into the ring is _huge_ and is going to make it a clear choice for people who just want an OS that does the very limited amount of things that they want to do. Now there's a free OS that can be installed on almost anything, has the face of a major company that people trust, and who also have reasons to make it work. It's not being made by a ragtag bunch copy-left programmers for copy-left programmers. Which is most likely their problem. They see it as a corruption of what they love about Linux, and so they gatekeep whilst pretending to want people to make the switch.

[@Quintuplin12]

Valve: releases their nintendo-switch-like OS to the world Zesty: "wow, look at this nice new desktop PC OS. Weird that it doesn't seem designed for that, and weird that Valve isn't advertising it like that, and it seems to be missing a bunch of core desktop PC features... can't imagine why. Valve must've overlooked something!"

[@ZestyAsTech]

It’s not so much that I think they overlooked something as much as where I personally would like them to go with it

[@nectarincorporated]

They can just simply have an option where it launches into desktop mode by default

[@MasterChief0093]

@@nectarincorporatedhonestly that would be very easy to do and it’s probably what they will have a setting for. I’m on steam deck as my only PC. And it’s docked half the time at my desk. While it only takes a minute to boot up and swap over to desktop mode, it would be very nice if it could boot straight to desk top mode and also allowed you to lock the desktop. That’s about the only 2 features that I want added. They could just add a toggle in the settings for which mode you’d like to boot into.

[@sergeykish]

UI, not OS. Nintendo Switch is hardware exclusive Nintendo Store.

[@gelbphoenix]

SteamOS is basically a desktop OS because it's build upon Arch Linux. Valve themselves don't restrict you to using only SteamOS as the SteamDeck is a PC.

[@IntangirVoluntaryist]

"the dream of leaving windows behind is starting to become real" Linux: "am I a joke to you?"

[@jarod1701]

Yes, yes you are.

[@Renigen]

Yes. And it's not even all that good as that.

[@IlyaDemidov]

Steam OS is Linux.

[@IlyaDemidov]

@@Renigen I bet you never even have used it.

[@Logicalporkpie]

@@IlyaDemidovunbuntu isn’t it?

[@ChloeCake]

See, the thing is that the SteamOS interface in a nutshell is just Big Picture on top of an standard KDE Plasma desktop, so you can just turn off Big Picture and you get KDE Plasma as-is. SteamOS is probably not gonna be easy to use as a desktop because it's an immutable distro, so you can't easily just install any package you want without some hacky script or unlocking the root partition, but you *can* literally just go into a normal desktop. Maybe when it's finished, there's gonna be some sort of "advanced" edition or something that lets you mess with it like normal distros, who knows.

[@ZestyAsTech]

An advanced version for enthusiasts would be very cool

[@CaptainWonderBread]

Almost anything that isn't available as a flatpak can be installed in Distrobox, which is no more complicated than installing on whatever distribution your container is running, you can even install a graphical package manager. I'd suggest Bazzite over SteamOS, but immutable systems are not the limitation they were a decade ago. Bazzite has been my primary system for most of a year.

[@gelbphoenix]

There is Flatpak and the Flathub which are automatically integrated into SteamOS. I would think that the wider adoption of SteamOS would also mean that Flatpaks as a software package and distribution method could get more popular.

[@JDCogan]

I run Steam OS via Bazzite on a ROG Ally and one of those mini PCs with an AMD APU, but I do too many other non-gaming tasks on my main PC to install it there.

[@UsingGorillaLogic]

A specific thing I want is for specifically when playing deadlock when I go to the keybinds menu it doesn't instantly go to the steamdeck mapping your controls on the deck itself menu so I can map my keybinds or even just change my mouse sensitivity

[@joaorovira]

you can do whatever you want in linux.

[@blake6248]

0:10 what game is that? also as soon as steam os gets desktop support im moving over im tired of the windows operating overhead its so inefficient and annoying

[@homework8969]

Titanfall 2, respawns middle child

[@ghostrydergames]

Titanfall 2

[@Priyajit_Ghosh]

​@@homework8969Another game where we wanted 3 but didn't get

[@blake6248]

Thanks it's currently on sale Steam for only three bucks I'm definitely going to get this weekend

[@Priyajit_Ghosh]

@@blake6248 It's my favourite FPS Game! You will love it

[@Skibbi198]

I think SteamOS will lead to a lot more native Linux games too.

[@jarod1701]

No, it won't.

[@Skibbi198]

@@jarod1701 depends on SteamOS's adoption and whether game studios want to take chances with Proton or not

[@jarod1701]

@@Skibbi198 Why would they port games to Linux if Proton basically does the job for them?

[@Skibbi198]

@ because Proton can be a bit hit or miss. If there's enough Linux adoption, companies may not want to risk it.

[@jarod1701]

@ Linux adoptions costs money and the market share for Linux-based gaming is extremely small.

[@sunnasmilieu]

I'm just going to say that my partner, who knows literally nothing about Linux, has been gaming on Linux Mint for around 3 months now. It's running without issues. I'm only running W11 because I'm in need of som proprietary software. But I've tried everything else on Linux and it's worked fine. We're both Nvidia users. The only issue I had when moving her system to Mint was a WiFi driver, but connecting to the internet with the phone as a hotspot made it find the right driver and there were no issues from there.

[@roccociccone597]

I am a long time Linux user and my experience with nvidia has been horrendous every single time. The drivers love to just break my install at random times. So for the past 5 years I've stuck with AMD. It just works and the drivers are foss.

[@sunnasmilieu]

Yeah, I've heard that it's been bad at times. I have used Linux on and off for probably ten years at least and Nvidia support has definitely been much worse. It's obvious that there are problems, otherwise the discourse wouldn't exist, but I haven't personally had that many. I am hoping that it gets better as things develop. I would like to switch to Linux, but the software I depend on isn't available and sadly can't be run through wine or proton. It can't be in a virtual machine because it needs to interact with the rest of the system. But I'm holding out hope.

[@joaorovira]

Can you share what kind of proprietary software are you using?

[@gunslingerzach]

W11? You mean X11?

[@sunnasmilieu]

@@gunslingerzach Windows 11

[@micbln8967]

dont get this hype about steamos. just install linux now and have already gaming on linux and a proper desktop experience

[@pixels_2124]

I use Arch and won't be switching on my main PC, but my own excitement comes from the possible benefits a public release of SteamOS could have on the rest of Linux as a whole. Think about it. It's a controllable and marketable environment where Valve can confidently develop and test their own software; on top of customising and contributing to existing projects. SteamOS is essentially their personal workshop, and the stuff they produce benefits everyone, and getting lots of direct user feedback from a public release will not only benefit them but all the projects they contribute to.

[@IntangirVoluntaryist]

No kidding right? I've been gaming on linux for longer than this clown has existed on planet earth

[@swagmaster6922]

Linux distros are maintained by elitists who DON'T want mass adoption, and keep obtuse and illogical decisions about the UI or the OS functionality to make it harder to use. Valve has the resources and the willingness to make a linux distro that anyone can use effectively without having to be a hacker.

[@TopiasSalakka]

@@swagmaster6922 Distros like that are a minority. Most popular ones are maintained by large companies, some worth more than Valve.

[@IntangirVoluntaryist]

@@swagmaster6922 that may have been true 25 years ago, but it hasn't been true since then linuxmint couldn't be more open, and accommodating linux's biggest problem is that 95% of people have never tried it, but they parrot outdated information from 30 years ago that they heard from other people who/ve never tried it. and they are all certain they know more about it from those rumors than the people actually using it...

[@blar2112]

I can replace Win in productivity too, its arch behind the scenes, it has available every single piece of software available for linux, and the proton game layer works for windows productivity apps too.

[@m4rt_]

In most cases, people can just use SteamOS for everything. A lot of people just need a web browser, and that works fine on Linux. There is also a lot of content creation related tools that you can use. There is also office suites that are available on Linux. Etc. The only reason to dual boot is if you are dependent on some specific software that isn't supported on Linux, like Adobe stuff.

[@tfksworldoflinux]

I'm already on Linux so no need to switch as I can do everything I want to do. My two steam decks run great. I really am waiting to see a release of a new steam machine running SteamOS3. I would totally go for that as it would be the ultimate living room experience.

[@danilotakagi]

I'm already playing on Linux (with Mint) for almost a year now, and I want to try Steam OS I think it could be a very interesting KDE distro, even if it doesn't have many customizations in desktop mode.

[@Disthron]

I don't know about anyone else, but I want a complete Windows alternative. If Steam OS takes off maybe this will be what I need

[@Disthron]

It's a bit early to tell, but I would like Steam OS to be a full on competitor to Windows, be able to run my video editing software and the art programs I use.

[@LaSpookyEXE]

As a arch linux user I can tell you nvidia drivers are so good now a lot of people even prepare nvia gpus over amd on linux these days

[@H2beastt]

Steam should make a egpu dock to boost the steam deck experience in desktop mode kinda like the switch. Could also add a m.2 for ssd

[@ZestyAsTech]

That would be sick

[@ItalianNerdGamer]

I could switch if programs like open office and 3d printing softwer will actually work on steam os

[@zengineer3369]

I wish i will live long enough to witness another OS that can run even the most obscure lost old games.

[@m4rt_]

I'm already on Linux, and I'm comfortable here, so I likely won't switch over to Steam OS, as that is essentially just another Linux distro, but I might try it at some point, and if i need to set up a gaming thing in my living room, then I might set up a computer running SteamOS rather than a traditional console, as it's nice to be able to have a distro that just works when it comes to gaming. I might also get my brother to switch over... hopefully.

[@ecm86]

I can see how this would be much more preferred on handhelds that are for gaming as opposed to running Windows which isn't optimized for handhelds and would kind of take away a bit from the experience I can imagine. Of course, if gaming handhelds end up running steam OS 3 it allows for more polish and further polishing of an already pretty great gaming handheld OS and can only serve make it even better.

[@R3nDix]

I'm a programmer, and I can't even express how much I want to get rid of Windows from my computer. it's nothing but trouble for me. The only reason I still use it is that I don’t feel like rebooting my system every time I want to play games, so I end up doing most things (aside from gaming) on Windows as well. This system is a constant headache. Defender and some othert functions hasn’t worked for me in a year, but reinstalling Windows would mean spending days reconfiguring everything I’ve set up. I really wish that in a few years, Windows would no longer be necessary for gaming, but I’m not entirely convinced that will ever happen.

[@danielbetts3327]

It will be cool to play with steamOS. I left windows years ago for Linux. Steam has worked really well in the last couple of years for gaming on linux and I hardly feel the need to shift really. Will check it out for sure though.

[@user-dz3ph7dl4m]

just use any linux distro if you want regular desktop use - steam are only interested in games - they don't need to reinvent something that is already there. Also if there is a general steam os release it would likely ship with nvidia open source drivers (NVK ) rather than proprietry ones - unfortunately NVK while getting better rapidly is still a way off

[@gillesboisson]

I use kind of the same distros than steam OS (Arch + KDE for desktop mode) on my desktop PC, it works pretty well with nvidia cards out of the box with open source drivers. I'm confident that Steam OS Guys will be able to to finetune a proper desktop version of there OS.

[@JohnTibbitt]

As someone who used Mac for work and PS for games for a long time, this would be great to have 5 years ago :(

[@DarknessessB11]

How many games with multiplayer and anti-cheat will work on it though?.

[@MadNekUA]

Almost every game except maybe several shitty like GTA online, fortnight, rainbowsix siege etc. Anyway not worth playing

[@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece]

@@MadNekUA Some people need to be left behind, this seems to be one such case. Too dependent on EA/Ubsiofts juices. Don't look em in the eyes, makes it easier.

[@1BucketOfChicken]

have a look on 'protondb' or 'are we anti cheat yet', they are both websites that show how well games work on linux.

[@scofrona]

If compatibility gets good enough this might even impact non-games. Steam has a pretty robust software catalog as well! Either way, I'm still waiting for those proprietary launcher/service multiplayer games (Epic, Riot, Ubisoft, etc). to consider enabling support because that's the last link in my chain to windows.

[@slaapliedje]

To be fair, I was using Linux for gaming long ago... it has just gotten better over the years. Also, SteamOS is just a Linux distribution, you can easily run Steam on any Linux desktop...

[@Lagotarius]

Why wait for SteamOS? There are tons of Linux distributions out there with Nvidia drivers and more. And honestly spoken, on a desktop I won't switch into the steam interface for gaming, because it is not primarily for gaming but for everything else. The one thing that I miss the most on the desktop, is a real new Steam Controller, with touchpads, with four back buttons at least and every other control /button the SteamDeck has, not even one less.

[@Nick-bn6ch]

I'm literally already on Debian 12 Linux and it works just fine minus anti-cheat. If you dual boot Nobara and Windows you'll be set for anything you need

[@iSlammedMyKindle]

Thinking about it, Linux in general is something that screams valve because of a constant: community drive makes good things. Take for example GMod, portal 2's level editor and modding community, expanding that, just the centric ability to mod in the first place. People love modding, taking things into their own hands and strengthening it. Thats what is possible with steam OS at its core, because it was also made by community at every level of its foss pieces, including flatpaks, drivers, game scope and proton. Also launchers like heroic and prism. We can build something cool with them, so as long as we take a moment to also pitch in some capacity, whether its trying it or helping financially

[@KniteDad]

I will switch it in a heartbeat. I'm so tired of even Windows (i.e. X-Box Game Studios) games needing handstands to work on Windows before they finally figure out their latest patch broke their own games.

[@sandcrakes]

Never thought Gaben would release a third version of his product

[@Disthron]

The next Steam hardware survey is not going to show any uptake in Linux. NO ONE WANTS TO FIDDLE FUCK AROUND WITH LINUX!! It will likely show an uptake of Steam OS, in my view this is not really the same thing. I'm hoping Steam will make the OS more user friendly, because they care about people actually using it. But yeah, not on is coming to any other version of Linux, and the survey will list Steam OS as it's own thing too

[@DeadPollo]

Microsoft: " *chuckles* i'm in danger"

[@blalien777]

At some point these developers are going to start putting some respect on Steam OS! I'm hoping we can get some parity in this space, one player dominating for so long is frustrating! ARM on Steam OS 1080p 60fps gaming would be nice! An AMD APU that can give the same frame rates or more with 4-6hrs of battery life would kick ass also. I'm just hoping the performance from these handhelds get better soon!

[@Markkreuzz]

We got Valve with more than 3 iterations before GTA VI.

[@xoso599]

Why would you want a console UI experience on a PC?

[@gr-lf9ul]

You're so wrong about its desktop use. There's practically nothing that Valve needs to do about that for it to be good, since it's a KDE linux desktop which is good already. You just have to alt-tab away from steam and that's all. Valve may or may not attempt to make that side of it usable via just a controller, like they did back with the original "steam machine", but for its use with keyboard and mouse all the work is already there from decades of linux desktop development that has nothing to do with Valve.

[@akabuyx4636]

I wouldn't say this replace Windows for gaming, i see this move for Valve more for a console like experience than a PC like gaming experience. Imagine having a small powerfull PC in a console-like formfactor that runs Steam and you can have both console and PC gaming, monitor and TV gaming, mouse + keyboard and controller gaming, all "separate" but with the same library/platform to do so, in my opinion this hurts more Xbox and Playstation than Microsoft with Windows PC's (unless you're counting Xbox since it's owned by them but you get my point i hope). And i'm not gonna lie, it would be awsome, and if Microsoft fells that competition they can just partner with Valve and make Xbox run SteamOS or make that a option and people would buy it, Microsoft focus on the hardware and release of their games and Valve focus on the Software and platform for said and more games. This would bring more people for the Xbox for sure making that competition less of a problem. You say that this would hurt Game Pass, but just think the amount of people that game on a PC, most likely on Steam already, but also have a Game Pass signature, now imagine how much more people would sign for Game Pass when you have even more people inside the Xbox ecosystem. I do think the consoles are dying, but only as we know them and how they are, the future o gaming to me looks more like what a said in the last paragraph plus some even more companies making console like hardware powered by SteamOS or other operating systems that may be developed down the road and less just Xbox or Playstation, with Microsoft and Sony thinking more about the games the publishers they own make, just look at Game Pass and how it works, Xbox is already set to path at least similar to that.

[@tacobo]

Nvidia on linux is fine. I have an Nvidia 4080 running on Endeavor OS (Arch) and an Nvidia 3080 ti on Nobara 41 (Fedora). No Issues running games in Steam and Gog Galaxy via Lutris (Cyberpunk). I'm using KDE for HDR, not sure if Gnome supports HDR yet. I hope they release 2 versions of SteamOS 3 regular/immutable.

[@_adonisk]

SteamOS is powered by KDE (plasma), doesn't it? Desktop mode will be way easier to implement considering they already have a Desktop Environment set up.

[@pixels_2124]

They also have direct access to both the official Arch repositories and the Arch User Repository, so it's incredibly easy for them to utilise every package available to Arch, which includes everything needed to flesh out the desktop.

[@LIXEREQ]

STEAMOS ISIN'T MEANT AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO WINDOWS. STEAMOS ISIN'T MEANT AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO WINDOWS. STEAMOS ISIN'T MEANT AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO WINDOWS. Valve literally said that. If you want a good alternative for windows, there are a lot of options. My personal one is Nobara Linux, but you may prefer Linux Mint or Cachy OS. There are also non-Linux alternatives like Haiku OS or FreeBSD

[@gelbphoenix]

Yeah maybe Valve said that but people will be people and will see SteamOS as an possible alternative to Windows.

[@Captain-Chats]

I’m hating windows myself and would love to move over to steam os at some point. I have a 4080 currently but I would change to an amd card the next time I upgrade so I know that card will be properly supported

[@filipepinho3319]

I want this to become a 100% reality, the only issue is games that require kernel level anti-cheats (that are bad by design)... how are they solving this? Also considering some game companies being morons and denying the game to be possible to run in a Linux operating system

[@Renigen]

Is it going open for handhelds only? Afaik they didn't say anything about desktops.

[@dancingdoormanable]

SteamOS could become the "home system" for techie creatives. The home computing space was a mix between gaming and creative applications previously filled by the C64 and Amiga. For a while BeOS had that vibe, but they had to pivot. That space wasn't filled by Windows because it was too business and dull, not by Linux because too complex and fragmented, not by Apple because too limited and expensive. When SteamOS becomes the best environment to run games in and run applications for audio, video, graphics and 3d modeling, possibly even support the demo scene, then they might own that niche. As much software moves online that OS for high performance stuff may be the only relevant niche left.

[@TopiasSalakka]

We already have plenty of Linux distros for that, don't need another one.

[@dancingdoormanable]

@@TopiasSalakkaI see standardization and market share as something separate from technical ability. Could those distros convince Adobe to port their software?

[@4izm0v]

Have you used desktop mode on the Steam Deck?

[@BobDevV]

This notion that Steam OS will enable everyone to switch from Windows, needs to stop. This is just a delusion. Literally nothing prevents you from switching to Steam OS like OSes now and they will have newest drivers, linux kernel and support, faster than Steam OS can ever have. Steam OS updates take months, Bazzite and the like update in days (after new driver, kernel, anything really, is released, even proton fixes, for example glorious eggroll has fixes and changes that are not in official proton builds). Steam machines will not be a thing because it requires corporations to work with Valve, they can't just install Steam OS, they need to spend money to make it happen. It is not worth the hassle for them. Maybe few companies will do a test run, to find out what demand there really is for such devices. You will probably see CN brands all over it, minus the official branding. Lenovo will for sure have one, they already are paying Valve so they will probably make the best of it. That said, to ditch Windows you need to familiar yourself how to use linux. There is no magic OS that will just one click work as a replacement. Steam OS won't be it, it desktop experience will be on pair or worse than already existing linux desktop environments. Why? Because valve does not work on linux desktop, they pay small team from KDE to do that.

[@coldvaper]

Im ready for some competition for windows, windows 11 blows. I have nvidia gpu so I will have to wait for a while to see how others fare with SteamOS but I am ready to switch.

[@hnasheralneam]

There are many mainstream Linux distros with pretty decent NVIDIA support, much better than anything SteamOS will have for a while.

[@Ferkiwi]

They have not announced it for PCs, though. Their focus is third party handhelds, you are jumping the gun.

[@charlienewman7496]

I'm already dual booting windows with Bazzite on my all AMD build. Game pass and anti cheat is the only thing that windows has left for me.....if Devs start using Linux friendly anti cheat, I'll give up game pass and uninstall windows altogether.

[@lilsoonerfaninmo]

Unless SteamOS has a solution for EAC games like Destiny and CoD, then I don't think Windows is going anywhere

[@nikso1496]

Now just gotta force the companies to not be lazy with the anticheats and get linux compatibility

[@icecycles859]

when valve releases something with a 3 in it you know HL3 is close by

[@dcryder9736]

I'll try it now as dual boot. Where can I get it a copy?

[@Treznor.]

SteamOS itself isn't available for desktops just yet, it's still very much aimed at handhelds. However, you could try obtaining Bazzite or Pop_OS and trying either

[@Berny23]

I already use Arch Linux (btw.), but this is awesome news for all other people!

[@pironiero]

they said before may, not in march

[@TopiasSalakka]

Why don't people just install any regular Linux distro if they want to get rid of Windows? For a desktop PC any of the popular ones tick all the boxes: easy to install and use, from a big company, great performance in games.

[@shaun900]

Will it work well with Nvidia? I've been gaming on Linux with Nvidia cards for over 20 years.

[@MikeG0ld]

For me the problem would be that on top of my Steam games I'd like to also play some Valorant and Fortnite...

[@brandursimonsen4427]

Open-source gaming is the future! Hoping SteamOS 3 containers bring top-tier performance across all platforms. Exciting times ahead!

[@prochu975]

I myself would be willing to transfer to Linux as for gaming pretty much quite a big amount of games actually works on Linux, however editing software and other kinds of software that is non gaming, not all of it I use works with Linux which is still a deal breaker for me

[@Xport9]

I hope this replaces WinOS completely.

[@Bizbang]

I've been running bazzite on a desktop and home theater, and it's been so smooth. But I also have an AMD build.

[@hundvd_7]

7:10 On the next survey? Nah. You're crazy. If it's just 5%, it'll be the biggest success project Valve will have ever worked on. And if it can just _keep_ that 5% for a year, then Windows needs to step in and do something _really_ quickly or it _will_ lose a metric fuckton of users. Linux _can_ eventually reach 30% but that's gonna be in a decade-if things go well.

[@ZestyAsTech]

Yeah, the next survey is wishful thinking, but hopefully in the not too distant future.

[@TheSixteen60]

I would upgrade to SteamOS. Though I might end up resetting everything if I do so I might not want to take the chance. Oh well, I'll use SteamOS for my next PC in the future.

[@sly2792004]

kinda exciting but also sad. means it'll lose one of its biggest positives. steam os just being for one hardware both made by valve, meant the os could take full advantage of hardware. now ill just be like windows and android. it have to work on all kinds of specs meaning it won't work great on any hardware, just ok.

[@Hiperultimate]

I hope they do something about the anti cheat issues.... Then this option will be 100% viable

[@weltaristokratmuri8711]

steamos3 and steamdeck 2 will be a dream who will come true

[@lanzer22]

I dual boot Windows and Linux because I needed a Windows PC to run Steam. I can't wait to dual boot Steam and Linux. Though I play VR games so that might take a while longer.

[@TopiasSalakka]

Steam runs on Linux, has ran since 2012.

[@timf8684]

I've already switched to pop-os. I can't stand being called a "user" and locked out of administration of my own device. Uninstalling all windows bloat, breaks stuff now. Cortana, co-pilot, disabling TPM, Chromium edgelord, removing internet access for all Microsoft and AdSense (unless I feel like updating) AND ai features leaking private information (bigger deal than it looks) Yeah, windoze 11 is fully broken. They nailed their own coffin

[@frontrider3240]

Steam os should work well with nvidia, I use linux with nvidia. Steam OS will be a push for nvidia to do more support. AI already did some with Cuda. The desktop side is covered. A lot of the "productivity" things either ignore the whole proton layer and just need drivers (that proton needs), and a window manager which the steam os has. IF that is not enough, then wine/proton is what it needs which the os has. They focus down on what is weak right now, which is marketing, and running windows software.

[@TheSecondKidNamedFinger]

No way... They managed to count to 3?

[@vicious12394]

Probably will keep using endeavouros with a gamescope session. You get badically the exact same thing but with the advantages of an arch based distro. The only reason i go back to windows now is for work because i cant use davinci resolve well on Arch.

[@legendaryone66]

Great now we just need the devs to work on Linux anti cheat only thing really holding me back is not been able to play Rust and Tarkov on Linux

[@hughsilva5655]

I have a question, will Steam OS 3 be like a complete replacement of windows? I hope that it is, but im not sure if it will be that or if it will be more dedicated for just gamers who want to make a mostly gaming intended system.

[@ZestyAsTech]

It would pretty much be for dedicated gaming rigs

[@hnasheralneam]

It's not a replacement for Windows, it is focused on gaming. If you want a full Windows replacement, use another Linux distro and install Steam, the experience will be basically the same

[@Chris_Husk]

Linux mint is really good for a full desktop experience. (commenting using it)

[@berdik97]

now we need apple to allow proton work in mac os or at least make gptk more user friendly

[@DonaldPierce]

CachyOS FTW best gaming experience I have had on Linux.

[@thesteammachine1282]

Does that all mean steam games have to be updated ?(which is impossible) Or does steam os work works with windows games ?

[@ZestyAsTech]

SteamOS (and Linux as a whole) can run windows games through a translation layer Valve developed called Proton. There are some exceptions but the vast majority of games are playable on SteamOS without any need for changes from the developers.

[@pingerock6962]

It doesn't support multiplayer games with kernel level anticheat. So, I'm still bounded to play Destiny 2 on Windows.

[@mlv60]

i honestly dont mind if SteamOS remains gaming-oriented since i already (and I assume many people who work on linux and game on windwos) have a dual-boot workflow where i do my work on linux and boot into windows to play games, it would be nice though if you could have the power to game out of the box and ability to set it up like you would arch for work... ah man now im fantasizing what if i just had an extra shortcut that would bring up a workspace that would basically be a gaming workspace damn... i really want SteamOS to succeed more than ever! especially after years and years and years of microsofts absolute lack of respect and boundaries in how they treat you as a windows user... im praying (not in a religious way) for a day my life can be 100% linux (arch, steamOS, android) ❤🙏

[@vfn4i83]

Been gaming on linux for a year, no regrets what so ever.

[@aLmAnZio]

I won't change, as I have a significant library on GOG. If they allow other vendors, then maybe.

[@supersonicmario2768]

Speaking as someone with a steam deck. They do let you install other venders. Though you do have to use a third party through Lutris but that's more of a linux thing in general not a valve thing.

[@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece]

@@supersonicmario2768 Yeah I am not sure if this guy is trolling or being sarcastic. As installing anything you want was possible from day 1. I play more non Steam then steam stuff on mine. Mostly GoG and PS1. Stardew Valley is one of the most played games there for a reason and I bought it on GoG. A good example for a game with excellent native support i have played with a controller anyways.

[@aLmAnZio]

@@supersonicmario2768 That changes things!

[@maythesciencebewithyou]

Well, I guess this will be good enough for all the gamers who do nothing but gaming on their rigs.

[@AnonymousTok3r]

Why would I want SteamOS on a PC? It loses 99% of its functionality. Not to mention Bazzite and Linux Gaming Distros exist already. PS Big Picture mode already exist. Its the same thing. lolz

[@wileymonair]

I have been waiting for this moment since SteamOS was introduced!! I CAN'T WAIT! Long time Linux user, mostly Ubuntu and Mint, I have installed Linux on my Main PC a few times to experiment with gaming and just stopped due to a fairly buggy experience. I just want to turn my PC on and game. I also have a dedicated machine for XP and XP era titles. I would really love if Microsoft would have Xbox GamePass for Linux as well since that's what I use the most as I can try many games with GamePass. Great value for $10 a month, instead of buying games and never playing them again.

[@omp0815]

I am from the time that Nvidia was the only graficcard that would even have drivers for linux. Or do I have demencia? I am sure this was a thing