Stock JL Vs Modded TJ Off Road | Can Ryan's Stock JL Keep Up With his Modded TJ - Throttle Out

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In this video Ryan's comparing his built TJ to his new stock JL. We're ready for the rematch when Ryan finally builds his JL.
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Subscribe for Daily Jeep Videos: terrain.jp/SubscribeXTyt Check Out Parts For Your Jeep Right Here: www.extremeterrain.com/throttleout-feb2019.html Do You Think Ryan's JL Can Beat his TJ After Ryan Builds his JL? Ryan's TJ Parts List: JKS Front HD Adjustable Trackbar - terrain.jp/2SxsbcV JKS Rear Adjustable Trackbar - terrain.jp/2UHAL6h Rock Krawler Adjustable Front Upper Control Arms - terrain.jp/2GaoG6F Rock Krawler Adjustable Lower Control Arms - terrain.jp/2SvDzG9 Rock Krawler Adjustable Rear Upper Control Arms - terrain.jp/2UODnQ5 Rubicon Express 5.5 in. Front Lift Coil Springs - terrain.jp/2GgBIzo Rubicon Express 5.5 in. Rear Lift Coil Springs - terrain.jp/2RF6Xpb JKS Front Swaybar Quicker Disconnect System - terrain.jp/2RJSV5F KC HiLiTES 6 in. Black SlimLite Halogen Lights - terrain.jp/2UKdu3z

[@tlalexander3]

Gotta have a SYE and drive shaft with that setup too more than likely

[@achavesbarrantes]

good comparison, there are barely videos showing how capable a sport stock jeep actually is

[@pkh8121]

Thanks for showing what stock Jeeps can do. Seems like stock Jeeps and Jeepers who own them are forgotten.

[@MHix63]

Cool to see this. Other channels say you "must" have a Sahara or Rubicon...this was a great demonstration of what a basic Jeep can do. I've been looking to get my first Jeep and have hesitated when considering the Sport/S. For what I'll be doing (fire roads, easy trails, occasional shallow water) I think the Sport/S will do just fine!

[@extremeterrain]

Does getting a Rubicon help while doing some rock crawling? Absolutely, those HD axles and lockers are great. But do you need a Rubicon to go off-road? Not at all! If mild/moderate trails are your plans, sticking with a Sport or Sahara will be just fine! You can always get a lift and bigger tires down the road. 😁 -Zach

[@blam7]

I believe if you put a good all-terrain tires on the JL you could’ve made it up that rock.😁

[@owensands6151]

There’s no question on that one. Tires make the biggest difference offroad

[@taylormccallum]

KZbin needs more 2 door jl content like this. 👍

[@atomneely]

Surprised at how well the stock JL kept up! Excited for ya'll to get your hands on a Gladiator and do these kind of tests with that.

[@GoodOldGamer]

I love that TJ's light colored interior! I hope I'm able to get that as well. 👍

[@andreipretorius92]

Love your videos. For the jl...keep it clean and functional. A nice 2.5 inch kit and some 35s, that's all you need and that jl will be unstoppable

[@ciroandsteph]

Crazy what the JL can do stock, just got mine a couple weeks ago, love all the info in your videos!!! Getting hyped to live the Jeep life.

[@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo]

Real keep life is getting a TJ or older jeep............

[@nickconrad94]

Now all the soccer moms are going to go wheel their brand new wrangler. Great video! I love wheeling my 02 TJ

[@co4x4]

Buddy...get going on that JL build of yours already! Looking forward to those vids.

[@JeepTJWheelin]

Really dig the stance of the TJ on those 35's, but hey Ryan, TJ heat is the best, I never get cold in my TJ. No need for those cream puff, fluff bells and whistles of a JL. Heated steering wheel?? That sounds very prima-donna. Anyway, I have an '05 TJ Rocky Mtn with the amazing AMC 4.0 I6, 32" ko2's and 2" Old Man Emu coils, Currectlync steering, Freedom Off Road front adj track bar and their front lower adj control arms, rest are fixed Detroit Axles, transfer case drop kit, JKS quick disconnects, M.O.R.E steering box brace, Fox 2.0 Shox and Fox steering stabilizer. And this modest build has given me the absolute best vehicle I've had. All in, I'm at $25k and this rig more than keeps up with today's way overpriced JLs. In fact, it outperform most of these because of people's inexperience and/or their lack of off road instincts and common sense. I might add ARB lockers and 32" BFG MT's to do more challenging off roading. But it's been a blast with the current set up. The TJ in my opinion is the greatest Jeep generation of them all. The best Jeeps have the 2 door short wheel base, round headlights, soft top and a 4.0L O|||||||O 🇺🇸 Only in a 2 dr 🇺🇸 '41 - '06

[@extremeterrain]

TJs are definitely closer to the original CJs than the JLs are. But in a world where new cars keep getting more and more technology in them, FCA really can't put out a new "TJ" and expect it to sell like hotcakes. The new JLs definitely are fancy when you option them out, but I own a base-model Sport and it's pretty bare bones for today's standards. Roll up widows, manual locks, steel wheels, cloth seats, halogen lights, no heated steering wheel or heated seats, etc. The new JL is still a Jeep, it's just modernized. -Zach

[@benmudn]

I went back to a TJ from a JKUR because the B-pillar was always in my peripheral. Being that my first Jeep was a CJ and had such a great "open air" feel, the JK/JL was to "closed in" for my taste.

[@kaikaiser1497]

Same here, went back to a YJ from my JKUS. Love my YJ for being more "Jeep-like" but the JKUS with its additional half doors had been much fun and made good memories as well

[@shawnjoe9187]

I, too, sold my JK and went back to a TJ. I also picked up another YJ as this was the first model that started it all for me when I was first getting into Jeeps. They may not be a JL with all the bells and whistles but they are sure very solid. The one thing I absolutely hated about the JK was the cheap thin metal. It dented very easy. Im not sold on this new aluminum panel stuff for the JL either. Higher cost and more expensive to fix. Not for me!

[@greygoose4x46]

I too went from a JKUR to a TJ ... my problem is driving it to the off-road locations in a tj and having to tow it

[@JoePriceJWP3]

Wow! A proper title for the video. Nice job

[@nicolecurry5627]

Great video Ryan I love the comparison of the two ✌🏻

[@jonasbennett9237]

This was fun. Thank you.

[@CammieGee]

Great video, do another off road comparison after you lift the JL

[@johnknipp]

I really appreciate your wheeling videos. I’m blown away at the capability of stock Jeeps. I know others have asked too, but why not a Rubicon. It seems like the lower range and upgraded axles would be well worth it. Thanks again for the great content. 👍

[@Rynsey]

Hell yeah that old Best Buy employee discount on car audio was the bombbbbb

[@zaneelliot6963]

I will take the TJ any day, over the JL

[@cbr6864]

TJ for the win look at used prices older JKs are going for just about the same as the trusted TJ

[@LukeEdward]

I’m about 5 months behind and catching up, but, so so so enjoying this, on a personal level. 2001 Sahara TJ & 2dr/2.0L/Stingrey JL, myself. So hoping I win that contest so I can rocket ahead in my building up my JL.

[@jeffallan3761]

Love the TJ. They have tons of personality and you don't see them everywhere anymore, easy to mod too. New Jeeps just aren't exciting, my JK with top down feels nowhere near as open as the TJs I had did.

[@Brisco1983]

I had a TJ 15 years ago and a JL for a week. Man, this is awesome!

[@extremeterrain]

Thanks for watching! -Zach

[@V8AmericanMuscleCar]

Nice comparison! I like that TJ!! :-)

[@PickTeej]

I was there this weekend! Looks like they had a lot of snow melt in the past few days

[@Ferda1964]

just installing good all terrain tires on the stock Jeep will considerably increase the capability of the stock JL

[@slugzkea]

Thanks for showing what a stock JL sport can do. Getting a little tired of always seeing a Rubicon in videos. Definitely those tires are the big limiter. Even with some Bridgestone Deuler A/T RH-S I'm sure you could have made it up.

[@elcompajr664]

Great video nice jeeps

[@thelaC100]

Great video

[@arasyelo6774]

Would haven been awesome to see a stock TJ out there too! I bet it would have kept up with the JL 😈

[@NotSure876]

Jerry Z I think so, when I had my TJ, I only disconnected the sway bar and put 31” at’s and I know it would go anywhere any other stock vehicle could go

[@chuckzechman7390]

Nice comparison

[@Octaviodeiques]

Please make more of these videos with the Tj and jl

[@clarencewong7298]

Hey Ryan that was a good comparison and I agree that with ATs you would of passed the last test in the JL. Do you recommend a overland bolt on cage for JL? I have a soft top and need a roof rack exoskeleton type of solution.

[@braedenbowie1919]

The green trail you went on is 75% of the roads in my area 😂

[@krasnaludek298]

Have a new JL (after two JKs) & would love to have a project TJ.

[@ec6933]

Can you PLEASE tell me where you got the TJ fog light covers!?! I can't find them ANYWHERE!?!?

[@off-roadingexplained8417]

Yep. You see that pic of what I drive. Total mountain goat. Probably comparable to a Wrangler Sport with the 2 inch lift and the bigger tires and being the Trailhawk version. Don't forget the rear locker. You don't need to be 25 inches off the ground!

[@Rushdie01]

Did you guys disconnect the swaybar on the JL for this video? I didn’t think they flexed that much up front with swaybar connected ?

[@ajs8237]

Jeez even stock is a beast

[@joshuadempsey3449]

Ran the stock tires on my JKU until end of last year. It has been to rausch, ure, flag pole knob and playing with its bigger cousins all day long. Even though it is now wearing the at ko2’s (amazing btw) having had to pick lines in a stockish jeep for awhile made me sincerely appreciate and probably better navigate a ton of play areas later. As for this build my suggestion would be a balance build. The 2.0 designed for better fuel economy coupled with some smart aftermarket decisions could make for a good sell. Obviously roll 4.56 diffs and a full 35 x 12.5 tire might seriously cut into whatever savings you might be trying to achieve with fuel economy especially in the day to day. I would be interested to see if less was more. A 1 inch to 2 inch level and spacing with a solid set of 33’s at. How would something that simple compare to the stock trail riding you already did? Would even that small amount push it up that last obstacle? Btw want to see stock tires on Dickey bell Uwharrie look no further kzbin.info/www/bejne/ip7MlIljpc2Vfpo

[@jdlasvegas6053]

Dare to be different and install 6” lift and 35s . Jeep will look amazing take you up those rocks easy. 👍🏻

[@andoniades]

Locking rears? Didnt look like limited slip or it just engaged quick. Which model JL?

[@BillyTpower]

Hey Ryan you see a lot of rig so if I may pick your brain for a second? I have just bought a 2013 jk 2dr sport. I only have a budget for one or the other up grade which one is better to start: bigger tires (295/70-17) or rear locker. my terrain is mostly trails either dusty or muddy or snow/ice (remember I can only do one) also it's my daily driver but only on gravel roads to work?

[@joezephyr]

I am close to making a decision to get a 2 door JL Sport S. Thank you for this video. In the meantime I would be happy if you did not lift the JL as I would love to see more of its capability stock standard.

[@Ferda1964]

So did you get one? I just ordered 2 dr JL Sport manual : )

[@Popflyer123]

Great stuff! What is your opinion on manual transmission vs automatic for going through the obstacles here (assuming new JL model). Cheers

[@Kennykoo65]

I have a ‘98 as well. Is your Jeep a chile pepper red?

[@timbradfield788]

I like the wheels on your TJ, I'm not a fan of the black wheel fad. Also like the 15 inch wheels. Can you put 16 inch wheels on a JL or do you have to stay 17 inch?

[@Michael_ryan91]

Was the front sway bar disconected on the jl??

[@johnsierramusic]

Man. I believe that JL with a lift and some MTerrains would've killed the course just fine!

[@extremeterrain]

A 2" lift and 33" MTs would turn it into an absolute mountain goat! -Zach

[@MattTortilla]

Can you do a video on the Axial Smoked LED Turn Signals w/ Halo?

[@AmericanTrucksRam]

Hey Pastawarfare, www.extremeterrain.com/axial-led-halo-headlights-w-drl-amber-turn-signals-9717.html

[@MattTortilla]

@@AmericanTrucksRam I saw those! But I mean a video on these... www.extremeterrain.com/axial-smoked-led-turn-signals-w-halo-0718-jk.html

[@johnganshow5536]

To get the performance out of the 2.0 liter, it requires premium fuel, according to the jeep website. Must get expensive?

[@johnganshow5536]

@@FJDH11 Maybe, But my 3.6 litre v-6 does everything I need it to do in my new JL with regular fuel...

[@RyanWithAviators]

@@FJDH11 You don't inherently get better fuel economy from higher octane rated fuels.

[@johnganshow5536]

@@FJDH11 Glad it works for you!!!

[@AnnDee4444]

@@FJDH11 You also get a longer range with the 2.0

[@sugarnads]

Lol @premium fuel. We have 91 as our base fuel here. Then 95 and 98.

[@captainbc52]

Are those seats in the TJ stock?

[@Yourname3000]

Yes sir

[@abrahamcontreras1664]

11:48 dang that hurt me a lot ouch

[@00corin00]

Tough luck on the ledge. Good knock though.

[@jeremy8715]

That JL windshield rake / angle is horrible.

[@emdubeu]

Nice comparison, Ryan. Question for ya though... what was the clunking noise at 9:12 and 9:18? At 9:12, you can see something happened with one of the front axle components.

[@mcoffroadinaz4075]

It's the plastic rock guard making a loud popping sound, as it binds against the drag link as it moves up and down. Either the rock guard isn't attached at the rear properly, or was knocked loose, maybe? Might just need to be adjusted forward a touch.

[@MrLazyAmerica]

It's the plastic splash guard rubbing on steering components

[@kurtwolford5801]

6:06 you can see it hit

[@Projects_and_Pistons]

Vs YJ ?

[@WillysOverland]

Very ipressive for what people call a "Fiat". I guess some people just dont like change. I was also impressed with those highway tires not getting destroyed. I think if you would have backed up just a bit a bumped it again you would have made it up. This is where undercarriage armor is important and a winch wouldnt hurt either =)

[@nazmulsakib1644]

I just love jeeps. Whatever it is TJ or JL. Someday i will buy one.

[@dad3562]

Is it cheaper to get the base model and just put in lockers on your own VS the Rubicon?

[@extremeterrain]

I'll put it this way; if you plan on needing lockers at some point while off-roading, its a *lot* more convenient getting a Rubicon if you can afford it. By the time you buy a Sport with a couple options, then add a small lift kit, larger tires and lockers, the price will work itself out to be about the same if you can get a good deal on a Rubicon. Considering you also get the electronic swaybar disconnect, larger brakes, a heavier duty transfer-case with a lower crawl ratio, 4.10 gears compared to 3.45s that come with other models, rock rails, etc, the Rubicon is a solid package. Hope this helps! -Zach

[@dad3562]

ExtremeTerrain.com it does help so much! I never thought of it that way! I really appreciate the response !

[@extremeterrain]

Any time, Patrick! Best of luck and thanks for watching! -Zach

[@DarkLunarNights]

i want both the TJ and JL for myself when i get my licence💜💜💜💜

[@Wayfinder_JT]

Didn’t realize you guys were PA based too.

[@extremeterrain]

Yep! Right outside of Philadelphia! -Zach

[@WhoAmI_Official]

I have a question what do you prefer 2 door or 4 door?

[@blam7]

VloggerStation I would pick the 4door because it has more back space for your languages or what ever you want to bring along with you plus bring your friends along.😁✌️

[@johnganshow5536]

Yup, I have both, and the 4 door with the 2 inch Fox lift and 35 inch tires, is the way to go for my 2018 JL....

[@TheOwenMajor]

Do you have a family and is it a daily driver? If one or more of those answers are no, then 2 door. If both answers are yes then a 4 door. A 2 door Jeep is the "better" jeep. But it lacks usable space.

[@onefastcyclist]

Simple answer - Wheelbase/breakover angles

[@johnganshow5536]

@@onefastcyclist Don't worry about it with my 4 door, It's got a lift kit and 35 inch tires, best of both worlds, interior space and rough terrain worthy...

[@NotSure876]

I’d take the tj over the jl any day

[@darkpill]

Every video that features your Jeep you say “subscribe because it’s not going to stay rock for long” but months later it’s still the same?!?

[@itsCopello]

So stock JL Rubicon would have had no problem ✔

[@extremeterrain]

Unless you take it into a boulder field where most other people are using 37's and 3 inch lift kits, a stock JL Rubicon won't have problems in most places! -Zach

[@JBlinky67]

I'd take my Silverado on that rock garden. It's not that extreme.

[@rcreuse-jeepford8396]

Can you do more tj vs Jl because if I’d get a Jeep it’ll be between those 2. Maybe not as much off-roading though.

[@Terror7380]

Stock JL is no different than stock JK. Same crappy ground clearance, same crappy tires and wheels, same worthless bumpers. I wouldn’t own a JL simply because they’re too damn expensive to fix when something electrical breaks plus I don’t feel like living at a dealership. Imagine what you can do to a TJ with $45K

[@John-uj9zy]

Most of the time I'm off road I am alone. I bought a LJ simply because it was the last Wrangler that is simple enough for me to be comfortable being able to do any repairs if I breaks down off road. New Jeeps are for people who have other people work on their vehicles. Parts for a TJ are inexpensive and available at any major auto parts store. 95% of the tools you need can be found at auto parts store. Bottom line is a TJ is one of the easiest vehicles to work on that has been made in the past 20 years.

[@Lidond]

35s on d35 oof

[@nickfenlon8879]

Belfonti most likely built it into a super 35

[@jeremy8715]

DANA 35?? hmmm

[@johngreen9864]

He added an ARB locker (replaces the stock carrier) and chromoly shafts. Easily as strong now as the stock D44.

[@jonerikgreene1175]

Why didn’t you buy a Rubicon, knowing you would do so much off-roading?

[@blackonefifty]

There’s up to another 20,000 on the price of a Rubicon depending on how you outfit it. Probably why.

[@YJKadventure]

My guess is that he will be switching out the stock parts for better after market ones which would make it pointless to get the rubicon.

[@jrexplores5488]

Bet it doesn’t keep the stock axles under it.

[@blackonefifty]

JR Explores I mean, his TJ still has the same shit it was originally equipped with and it seems quite capable.. don’t know that he’d do that with the JL unless he’s offered parts to do so 😂

[@joeylavigne1742]

Taken my new 4 door JL stock to places where most big trucks get stuck drove by with ease

[@Blastfence1]

Why is the bottom of your Jeep rusty!

[@extremeterrain]

Good ol Pennsylvania winters and road salt don't let vehicles stay clean for too long, even with consistent washing. -Zach

[@Blastfence1]

@@extremeterrain Well he needs to get under the Jeep and clean up all that corrosion and apply anti corrosion paint and corrosion inhibitor as required!

[@jeremy8715]

TJ > JK/JL

[@AdolfTrumpler]

I couldn’t imagine buying a Fiat “Jeep”

[@extremeterrain]

The JL is a really solid platform! Don't knock one till you drive one! -Zach

[@markk3488]

@@extremeterrain u r so right.. i got exactly the same model and color as yours.. here in Israel we pay price x 2.5 then in the US

[@TheCableGuy1981]

Looking forward to see the 2.0L JL build!! Cool video seeing the comparison between TJ vs JL..