Stop Saying That Pixar Films Aren't For Kids (Glass of Water)

[@Carolina-pr2ug]

why would you call coco the worst pixar movie when cars exists 😭

[@LilianOrchard]

Called it!

[@Carolina-pr2ug]

@@LilianOrchard my bad!

[@thenablade858]

I had a crush on Lightning McQueen as a kid and now I can never hear Owen Wilson’s voice without cringing.

[@lucythevixen8757]

@@thenablade858 weirdly enough I know other people who were the same you need to start a therapy group

[@chairpool7623]

I like Cars

[@benwelsh5265]

"Pixar films aren't for kids" Translation: I'm too insecure to admit I liked a kid's film that had more depth than I was able to handle without somehow making it all about adults.

[@Mysterynovus]

I'll never get how any Millennial who watched Pixar movies AS KIDS and loved them would then go around to say these movies aren't for kids. Homey, you were six when you saw Toy Story 2, what are you going on about?? That's proof right there these are aimed at kids.

[@lalaland2107]

Because they always say that they didn't notice some things or that some themes went over their heads, which is fine, but there are those of us that did understand them as kids.

[@ayannabranchcomb7535]

It’s so dumb. Like ofc when we’re older we can appreciate different things about the shit we watched as kids but like.........WE WATCHED THEM AS KIDS AND STILL LOVED IT BECAUSE IT WAS FOR KIDS!!!! Like hello I teach second graders and they all understood that inside out was about embracing emotions and its okay to be sad. They might not have picked up on every single nuance but they got the point and they enjoyed the funky glittery colorful cartoons. Which is the goddamn point

[@lizo5930]

Yeah but Pixar also tries to make them enjoyable for the parents.

[@kaly_ths_291]

Kids are smarter than we often give them credit for.

[@julsdraws6769]

Thank you

[@hhaidar121]

@@ShamanMcLamie just out of curiosity, do you remember that question?

[@MarkAndrews12]

Yes

[@lucythevixen8757]

Remember when this film was announced and the backlash this got was “instead of a serious story for adults were getting a blue blob kiddy film”

[@Mirrorcomics24]

Mhm

[@zigzoinks5493]

How the tables turn, huh?

[@SecretAgentYaya]

I don't get how someone could say even Joe's storyline wasn't for kids. The pressure to have something to aspire to is forced on kids from when they're, like, five, and it only gets worse the further into education they go (we had the idea of GCSEs potentially shaping our whole lives drilled into us when were in year 7, which is about 11-12 years old), there's plenty of anxiety over the future and what they'll make of it in there.

[@elizabethb4168]

It's always so weird to me how many adults refuse to see children as actual human beings

[@korinoriz]

Paradoxically as a culture we're so hung about protecting them. Like yes, we should, but it's often used as a political tool "THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!" and like you said they're treated like lesser beings. They're just young and learning. What's equally annoying is typically those same adults tormenting children very likely were tormented as kids. It's like the moment they became "adults", they decide "yeah I'll treat kids as poorly as I was when I wad a child". Which is the same thing that happens in generational conflict. Older generation think the next generation is bad, that generation hates it but does it to the next.

[@jzas3916]

@@korinoriz You put it perfectly, no better way to explain it

[@warknightxl2167]

@@korinoriz your comment is on spot mate. I never really understood why there are a majority of adults think “maturity” is never acceptable to kids in entertainment media when mature is for and should be for everyone of all ages, not just adults, but kids as well. Also when adults say “mature”, they think that it is the same thing as adult when there is literally a difference between mature and adult.

[@ExtremeWreck]

@@korinoriz At least I started to know that, & became far smarter about the internet than everyone else of my generation lol.

[@randompromises1038]

@@korinoriz "i'm treating you like how i used to when i was your age" is the exact same thing my abusive mother who emotionally crippled me and is the reason i have severe anxiety and depression had said to me, which is one of the last things she ever told me before i cut her out of my life over two years ago. no kid asks to not be given respect and attention. no kid wants to be mistreated. they want to be _heard_ which takes literally the littlest of effort possible.

[@Deepspace472]

Honestly I feel like kids these days (especially girls but that’s a different topic) are not aloud to like things anymore. I’m still a teen and I get ridiculed on my music taste, what shows I watch, and what I’m interested in. Some abuse I’ve suffered at the hands of kids my own age was transfixed on the fact that I’m LGBT+ or my interests. I’m sick and tired of kids being invalidated over their interests. I love and still appreciate Disney/Pixar films because they are really fun to revisit when I am older than when I first watched them. Inside out is probably what I would call my favorite because the theme about mental health resonates with me. Great analysis as always lily!

[@codelyokoulrichyumi]

I feel you on that one! Even as a 23 year old adult people look at me sideways when I say I like to write fan fiction, watch anime, and animated kids movies in my free time. I have gotten the most back lash from family members because they see my hobbies and interests as 'unproductive' and 'dumb'. Like good God let me be happy, I'm not hurting anyone and its my free time. We don't have to be productive all of the time, just let me relax.

[@Dee-vi9tj]

Even if you aren't bullied, the stuff that gets put on our backs (that no one else seems to care about, mind you) adds to the stress of learning, I can't draw something or make a character design where I don't think, "is this racist? Will I get hate for something that never leaves my computer? Should I change the darker purple to a lighter green?" it's so fucking stressful-

[@msm8434]

Why is it nowadays that kids are supposed to see nothing but cute dancing animals? What the hell happened?! Are they just not allowed to learn good morals or anything?! It's not like there are zero kids that suffer abuse, trauma, and depression! These people are just stupid to think that kids are too young to see that!

[@davidegaruti2582]

@@Dee-vi9tj yeah , i honestly feel the same thing , it's basically a giant panopticon we collectively built in wich the watchmen watch the watchment and everyone is pushed at condemming "wrong" behavior as soon as they see it , else they may be seen as "complicit" in that ... i also had hangups about my worldbuilding project aimed at building two utopic societies , just because i want a place where the modern anxieties and problems aren't real ... i am anxius about sharing it , because i am scared it could be culturally insensitive , or not intresting to pepole ...

[@AnonSquishy]

​​​@@codelyokoulrichyumiA-Anime... *Immediately gets suspicious* 👁_👁 EVERYONE PROTECT THE KIDS!!! I'll get them to the bunker!!!!

[@fizzydizzystudios4768]

The moment I saw that Marie Antoinette of all people was one of 22’s mentors was the moment I realized that 22 wasn’t the one at fault.

[@misterguyman9669]

And she's headless and in a bakery. Lol Pixar

[@ProtagAster]

Fun Fact: Marie Antoinette was actually not as bad as history makes her out to be! If you want me to clarify I can, but apparently while hse did spend quite a bit of money while commoners were suffering (which, to be fair, a lot of nobles did in France back then), she was used as a scapegoat despite not being that bad of a lady

[@pillowfullospiders3934]

@@ProtagAster clarify plz

[@ProtagAster]

@@pillowfullospiders3934 Fun Fact, a lot of the French back then did not like Marie for her Austrian blood, even though her marriage to the king wasn't exactly her choice (it was to secure a peace treaty between Framce and Austria). She and her husband, king Louis XVI, were only teenagers when they married, and Louis was already pretty ridiculed by French Nobles because his grandfather, King Louis XV, considered him a loner. Since they were both teenagers when they married, French Nobles and the royal household were frustrated they couldn't produced heirs right away, which was the start of many negative opinions that would form about Marie and the King's reputation. I could talk more about Louis later if you want, but right now I'm gonna focus on Marie. Obviously, there are two things that Marie's associated with: lavishing in riches the country didn't have and the phrase "let them eat cake". First thing, that phrase above, is something she never actually said. Supposedly, the phrase was said when Marie was told of her subjects not having any bread to eat, and she said it in a callous and sarcastic way that fueled hatred for her and caused her to be a symbol of the French Nobles disregarding the poor. This goes to the second point: lavishing in riches the country never had. While it is true she was quite the spender loving the queen lifestyle, it is important to note she wasn't the only Noble who did this. Almost all the French Nobles were spending money at the expense of the poor (with the exception of Louis, who wof much rather spend his time tinkering away), she just happens to be the main face of it. It is also important to note that while she did spend a lot of cash, she was actually much kinder than the media was portraying her to be, and she was described as being extremely friendly to almost anyone who crossed her path

[@leefay4856]

@@ProtagAster I was just about to comment something like this bc it makes me so frustrated that history villainies her

[@strawberryanimation9294]

I watched inside out when I was 11 and It helped me through some stuff. Mainly that you shouldn't bottle up your emotions and that being sad is the first step of feeling better.

[@mixedmango2870]

I watched it the same age and I had already begun to develop depression as a result of bullying. Seeing the conclusion was so reassuring and satisfying and made me cry at the theater itself because I'd never seen anyone say it way ok to feel that way

[@CoolMagmar]

I remember reading some articles saying how the movie was great for kids because helped them pinpoint what emotion they were feeling and made it easier for therapists and parents to help them

[@strawberryanimation9294]

"Pixar Films are not for kids" is what you say when you think it's not ok to like cartoons after the age of 12.

[@j.a.ogrady7783]

Ah the flashbacks! All the 4 yr olds telling 4 yr old me Dora is for babies. FOUR. And the kids telling 10 yr olds me httyd is for babies and I should be watching Deadpool. Funny the dilly childhood insecurities transition to adulthood so cleanly and, um, much sillier.

[@Mirrorcomics24]

I’m 13 from yesterday and exactly

[@jacobb4795]

I’m 19 and I love cartoons

[@warknightxl2167]

It’s so weird that the people who complain that kids entertainment media should not be “mature” and think kids media is bad are the same people that complain about kids entertainment media being immature and bad.

[@Mirrorcomics24]

@@warknightxl2167 I’m confused

[@ArteiceTB]

At the end of the day, everyone can enjoy animation. Some people just need to stop labeling it as mature or not for the intended audience, because everyone can find some enjoyment from the media. Pokémon is aimed at kids, but mainly adults who grew up playing it talks about it. People shouldn’t be judgmental about what others like either, it creates unnecessary stigmas and barriers.

[@joelss22]

Pokemon Sun and Moon has some great emotional episodes that I don't think I'll be able to forget. Episodes like the Stoutland that helped mentor Ashs Litten dying of old age, Ash and friends spending time with a pokemon that has the lifespan of a fruitfly and having to deal with it slowly fading away, and One of Ashs friends regretting her last words to her mother only to finally be able to thank her mother. Sun and Moon has a lot of filler that can be a slog to get through but those specific episodes are what make me glad I stuck with it. I then watched the Pokemon I Choose You movie and hated how they handled the death of Luxray as just a way to flesh out one of Ashs forgettable companions but that's just me.

[@isobelmiller7464]

@@joelss22 Wait, what Pokemon is that with the lifespan of a fruit fly?

[@joelss22]

@@isobelmiller7464 Minior. In the games its said you can save it in a pokeball but its unfortunately not that easy in the anime.

[@welovea73]

Expertly executed

[@stardustnothing6115]

inside out flying over the heads of kids????? bro i was literally going through the same thing riley was going through when i moved countries and i was 10 if i hadnt seen inside out i wouldove been a very diferent person if i hadnt seen it as a kid it helped so much

[@staxistrash3659]

I don't get why people are so ashamed about liking childish things like are they really that much of a killjoy I love sitting with my little sister and watching bluey it's adorable

[@AnonSquishy]

As someone who adores Series 1-7 of Thomas the Tank Engine, I can safely say that I'm not embarrassed that I like the show. It was a defining moment of my childhood, and I wouldn't trade it for anything!^-^

[@victorb5608]

Watched soul with my nephew and he goes "that shit was boring" and I'm like "maybe you didn't understand the underlying messages or themes" and he goes, "I think I got it, I just didn't like the movie" and that when I realized the insane concept that kids are their own people with their own opinions

[@rowanlochnea]

This is when instead of assuming a reason, you instead ask "why did you find it boring?"

[@yelpingfox1894]

I dunno if this sounds weird but the way that you described 22's character arc was so fucking validating for me that I actually started crying. Guess I finally understand why I always gravitate towards characters like her. So yeah from a neurodivergent kid, thank you for perfectly laying out the way in which the people in my life have let me down. It means a lot to hear someone say those things. My mom is one of the people saying Soul isn't for kids and it makes me so angry when she does. I might send this video her way and see if it makes any difference.

[@GlitchyPixExtra]

When I was in college, I was doing a media course and one of the lessons my lecturers gave us was about target audiences and I remember, quite clearly, how that lecturer showed us a clip of Up's opening and then asking us who the target demographic for Up was. And so many of the people in my course kept going 'everyone, it's for everyone' because most of the people there were around 18-19-year-old men who _really_ didn't want to admit that they liked shows that were made for children. That lecturer shut them down completely, telling them that, quite frankly, the movie was made for kids. And people kept trying to argue with him about it but he ultimately won out because you can't write a movie for everyone, you have to pick a target audience

[@DisneySwimmer]

I watched this with my dad. When it got to the scene we're 22 is having her mental breakdown where all her mentors are yelling at her, I looked straight at my dad and said, "those are the voices I would hear in my head when you would belittle me. And those are exactly the words that they said to me." Because of the movie, I was able to actually have a real conversation with my father about the damage that he did to me when I was growing up. I wouldn't have had the conversation of 22 story wasn't included.

[@XainRussell]

People are so afraid to openly like things made for children that they'll sooner break them and try to reassemble them as some horrible eldritch abomination of the original.

[@Rikkiroo1008]

I hate that some people do forget that animation is a medium not a fricken genre, and I love a lot of animated films, because some live actions are so boring and usually have just themes and stereo types that just suck all the time. Like everybody stop being horny for some actress. At least with animation I get a wonderfully colorful world that expresses some time mature themes that even adult oriented medium would never goddam touch

[@lesliea.1019]

Didn’t Disney have a quote, “You’re dead if you only aim at kids, adults are only kids grown up anyway” so no one should feel ashamed for liking these movies since they can literally appeal to anyone

[@catst9927]

I don’t believe I was a troublemaker when I was a kid. But even so, this is what I want to hear from any adult. That I was still a person like an adult. So thank you

[@FatherIimaginedyoutaller]

You hit the nail in the head with the whole "The system has failed 22". As a neurodivergent kid who thinks of their time in school as a "fucking nightmare", I could really relate to the fact that her mentors kept giving up on her because she wasn't bending the knee to their idea of "spark".

[@randompromises1038]

i'm not neurodivergent (unless anxiety counts), but the foster system/legal system had failed me when i was a kid and i haven't been the same nor has my life or mental health ever since, and it's mostly because my opinions weren't heard/i wasn't taken seriously. even as i was perceived to be 'mature' for my age (re: trauma forced me to grow up older than i should've been), my words were never heard and it's why my mother got away with abusing me for two years.

[@tomas100708]

people treat children like they're emotionless robots, who can't feel sadness or think, like saying children can't experience depression or anxiety is like saying children can't experience emotions lmao

[@SoraTheMye]

Lily, thank you. Almost no one I knew picked up on what 22’s story was and how she was a huge point too. Her story is exactly what you say it is, and when I first watched the movie I cried during her depression because I had it happen to me too. You explained it in a way even I couldn’t years after it I was abused by my education system in such a clear and concise way. I know it was only a fraction of what this video was about, but it means a lot that someone else understands what her story is and how it is a very real thing that kids go through.

[@karacomley2001]

As a person with autism who struggled a lot in school, I salute you.

[@StardustWhip]

People are way too focused on the whole "what is the meaning of life" part of Soul, so much that they don't pay any attention to the character arcs and the actual story. Same thing with the "depression" part of Inside Out, the "mid-life crisis" part of The Incredibles, and the "letting go of the past" part of Toy Story 3 and its inferior sequel. Technically true though it may be that Pixar films aren't _just_ for kids, they are still for kids. "All ages" means "ALL ages", "the whole family" means "the WHOLE family", and nobody at Pixar has ever so much as implied otherwise. ...Except for Brad Bird, fuming the flames of the whole "OhHh It'S nOt a KiDs MoViE" thing, completely unironically, making a clown and a fool of himself in the process.

[@DragonLovingGirl6]

Agreed. Now I wouldn't show a kid an R-rated movie, but a lot of bad things happen in this world, and there are a lot of sh*tty people. And by infantizing children of all ages, not only are you not trusting them to process heavier themes and think critically (so they never might learn to), but you also shield them from something that might happen to them and when it happens for real (either still in childhood or as an adult) they won't have had the mental 'practice' to try and handle it. And that's why I have taken the initiative and am training myself to say 'I don't know, let's find out' and to admit when I'm wrong.

[@karenroque3583]

Thank you so much for this Lily. You are one of the staggeringly few people who took the time to go over and analyze 22’s story arc and you did so beautifully. I’ve watched so many reviews of this movie and so many people gloss over what 22 goes through in favor of talking about how no kids would relate to Joe’s problems. Honestly, whenever I watch a channel reacting to stuff like A:TLA and spitting out phrases like “this is not a kid’s show” it always makes my eyes roll so hard I fear they might leave me soon. Especially when I have distinct memories of being just as enraptured by everything that the show had to offer at the age of eight. All kids from every generation deserves to have fun like that

[@newcarloswig5147]

Cars 2 slaps to this day... Jokes aside, one if the biggest problems in media as a whole is that children are somehow starting to be treated like they have the same emotional intelligence as a potato. For no reason at all, people like to pretend they don't feel anything beyond "sad because rainy today". That's a lie. Let them understand this movie because the way it is presented makes it explicitly able for them to comprehend. They CAN pick up on things. They CAN understand issues like emotional distress BECAUSE in these movies it is made specifically so THEY will get it. And the movies are 100% better off for it.

[@aylarios7523]

at the end of the day, Pixar films are literally, explicitly MADE for children. whether or not adults find enjoyment in them does not change that fact.

[@Bunni504]

Right. Children are the primary target. Teens/adults secondary.

[@alexgrim5165]

"Too deep for kids", "animation should be made for adults" etc. are disgusting things to say; adults need to STOP hating children.

[@warknightxl2167]

@@unicornbunny5439 I think what he meant is that some people should stop acting that animation as a whole should only be for a specific age group audience than for everyone of all ages.

[@warknightxl2167]

@@unicornbunny5439 oh.... okay then. Sorry my bad.

[@Shining-ou7bo]

For those people you talked about lily, those adults that think family movies like soul or inside are too much for kids, I genuinely wonder if they ever met a child. Like yes children can be impulsive and emotionly driven but that shouldn’t be a reason for adults to look down on them. I have babysat a lot of kids from the ages 3 and beyond and while their intelligence vary, children can understand “mature” concepts seen in Pixar or just any children animation studios. They might not fully get it until it’s explained properly but they can still see concepts and relate to them. A lot of kids I babysat grew up with inside out and while they didn’t understand the whole undertone of depression, they could understand moving homes, arguing parents, trouble at school, etc.Point is, treat kids not like they are inferior but like they are actual people.

[@darinae34]

Yet again, the queen of the BONK said it best.

[@jacobb4795]

Thank you Lily for helping me realize how important the messages in Soul really are.

[@ColaLoser]

You got real. Extremely real. I actually had to pause the video because finally someone pointed out everything I've experienced and it hurt. I'm 22 I guess. The school system mishandled me as an autistic girl and my parents didn't know how to handle me. I saw the movie with my mom on Disney Plus. When 22 started having that mental breakdown I started my mother down. She didn't get it but it still was refreshing to finally see what I go through on the big screen.

[@eggnblood]

Cars 2 is an actually funny movie. Break my bones but I had a lot of stupid fun watching it with my nephew.

[@dontmindmejustadorkp6160]

Yeah sequels aren't always bad, the first disney movie i watched? Mulan 2, i loved it then and i still love it to this very day!

[@MooneyBabbler]

I loved it as a kid

[@eggnblood]

@@dontmindmejustadorkp6160 the problem isn't sequels, almost all dreamworks sequels are better than the first one. People trash on Cars2 because it's a dumb comedy based on spy movies with cheesy jokes, when it was in fact what it was trying to do. Edit: wrote disney instead of dreamworks

[@dontmindmejustadorkp6160]

@@eggnblood im just saying sequels are almost always HATED i also liked cars 2 better than the original lol. edit:i also liked toy story 2 better than 1, 3, and 4 lol

[@dontmindmejustadorkp6160]

@ً cuz its fun! Lol

[@z.z.4752]

Honestly, when I saw Soul my first thought was about how gifted schooling failed me and my ADHD, and if a movie like that existed when I was younger I would've realized that I wasn't a lost cause long before I graduated high school. It's really a movie that a lot of kids should be seeing

[@Siennarchist]

I dont know whether the joke extended to the coco thing, and im just confused now

[@JaniHorvat1]

It was a joke. You know how people react to different opinions about movies

[@RealFriarsLantern]

One thing I must ponder is why complex themes are often seen as inappropriate when a lot of things that are discussed in animated movies (with your example of people seeing killing the villain as inappropriate for children being a prime example of this) are things that they inevitably get taught in history class. If killing the villain in a movie is inappropriate, why is it appropriate to discuss the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand or the death of Caesar? Whether or not children are exposed to, for example, Batman killing the Joker, they are invariably going to see very real villains killed in history by the very education system that is propped up by those very same people. As such, it isn't exactly a well thought out point to say that certain themes are inappropriate for children when those very themes are being taught to them regardless of the media presence of those themes.

[@VanillaVillain8]

That part where you said that adults don't know how to handle nero-divergent kids, I have a lot of personal experience with that. My little sisters (both 6) get a lot of crap from my parents because they're always on they're phones or addicted to sugar despite the fact it's their own fault because they enabled them to become addicted to those things. My parents know how to take care of their kids but they flat out don't have the patience for it and refuse to go to therapy because they don't want to admit there's something wrong with them. I know my sisters aren't actually difficult because it takes little to no scolding from me for them to get the message. All I have to do is teach them why what they're doing is bad and be patient. I act as their parent so often that I've flat out called them my kids on some occasions, and treat them as such. My parents aren't like that though, especially my dad. And I clearly can't raise them on my own because I don't have the time and I'm 14! My parents' handling of my sisters is so bad that I'm genuinely worried for my sisters' futures. Not to mention the fact that I'm possibly autistic and have multiple mental disorders but they don't take into consideration that I dissociate often and I'm too depressed for school work and just say, "Well, you should do more". I'm sharing this to let you know that, well, you're absolutely right. A lot of adults are stupid and don't know how to take care of kids. Also as a word of warning: If you're a parent, be a parent. It's not as a hard as people make it out to be.

[@theflaminglitten-fo6jd]

all of this shows that anyone can be a parent but not everyone _should_ because then you get children growing up in horrible situations and often having to do what you do, raise themselves and their younger siblings, to be a parent, to raise a kid for 18 years and probably more because their still your kid after 18, you need patience, empathy, and a lot of understanding and if you dont have that then fix that before you ruin your future child's life

[@camarin713]

Add Turning Red to the list of “Pixar films that have parents/caregivers failing their kids in some way” but the twist is that misogynist pricks on Twitter are calling it “cringe” and “unrelatable” because it centers around a 13 year old girl going through puberty!

[@walterobrien8045]

Yo Andrea where can I get them turnips???

[@cortomaltese5206]

Asterix books have taught children about capitalism and imperialism and how sometimes empires conquer villages and take away their identity and freedom by other means than force for over 60 years. And people still get surprised when a cartoon touches the subject of death and say "this is for adults only!".

[@Mythic_Fire]

amazing as always. I will admit, the nuances of 22 story flew over my head as well. Perhaps because being an adult now, naturally I gravitated towards Joe's story, but yeah 22's story is just as important and it's a shame that it isn't as acknowledged because it is so real. People underestimate and ignore children so much sometimes, and it sucks. I'm glad not all children's entertainment has fallen into the manchildren's clutches yet. Off-topic, but not really since you mentioned Teen Titans Go. I don't like when those Manchildren say that more light-hearted, silly shows shouldn't exist either. Yeah, good, deeper content for kids can be great, but not everything needs to be intellectual. Kids deserve dumb fun as well. Both kinds of content should be able to exist. I think we all sometimes enjoy more mindless content sometimes i.e memes, vines, tiktoks, etc. So why kids can't get that, I do not understand.

[@caseycarpenter3221]

Literally my only problem with teen titans go is they made it annoying. Like I find all is is is repetative jokes and screaming, and it feels like the creators think kids are idiots. That's literally my only problem with it, I like the art style, the episodic stories, stuff like that. I just could do without the yelling and dumbing down of the characters

[@ayannabranchcomb7535]

Right. I think the art of accepting that you don’t have to like everything and everything aint for you so just find shit you do like has been lost. I find TTG annoying as hell but it’s not for me bc I am no longer the target demographic, and that is okay

[@fiachuAnimation3537]

wow, this video feels so close to home for me right now, especially after my parents figured out I was transgender. after watching this video I want to get Disney plus in the future to watch soul.

[@NyxTheBraix]

In the recommended section of this video I got the Emoji movie made for rent. What have you done, Lily?

[@Bartholomule01]

The expectation that children's content is uspposed to mindless drivel that is fun to watch and pretty colors really needs to stop. Kids have less expeirence, not less intellgience.

[@TheOrene]

Lily: trying to make a point Me: holy shit stop holding the pizza like that

[@student8663]

3:55 thank you! I really felt that scene when she was so close to admitting she hated the sudden change but had to hide it in order to remain their same happy girl

[@randolfgarard]

I alway saw their films as being appropriate for all audiences.

[@barrettbirks1058]

I did watch Cell's video on soul and, although it covered the same things you said, I much prefer this video. You are just a lot more blunt then Cell and I like it when people get to the point.

[@korinoriz]

I distinctly remember when I was like 6 years old and was blown away at the concept of a gray villain in a episode of Power Rangers. I also remember talking to my peers about similar rather "morally complex" characters. Children do understand this stuff, just in a much simpler form. I work with preschool aged children and though their articulation is even more simplified than a 6/7 year old, they show signs of understanding "muh complex morality" in media. There's an excellent video of a therapist analyzing Inside Out, and he shares a wonderful anecdote of how his very young daughter said a memory of hers was "blue and yellow", akin to the memory in the movie.

[@LightSpectris]

Okay, I haven’t seen Soul but judging by what you said, I already love 22. I remember my school REALLY didn’t help me when I was diagnosed with autism and despite they thought I was a hard working student, whenever it came to my interests and hobbies they just didn’t give a shit. They hated it when I drew in my sketchbook in class, blamed my mother for being a bad parent because I was drawing gore at one point and they thought me drawing with a black pen meant I was depressed. YES REALLY. I made a PowerPoint presentation about why I love MLP as a way to talk about social outcasts and they threw it back in my face cos they thought it wasn’t educational. Even when I was making mascots for our school houses (granted they were all MLP ponies but they should’ve at least told me to rethink the designs to make it original) and they just threw it away. When I was being harassed by an ex classmate they just gave me a little kids Internet safety book when I was SEVEN-fucking-TEEN. And even when one of my own classmates called me the “class r****d” on FB, no teacher found out about this or say anything about it. (Tbf i should’ve said something but I was a coward back then but still they should’ve At least CHECKED THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA AND SEE WHAT THEIR STUDENTS ARE POSTING) To sum up, I was literally infantilised. I was treated like a precious babby who should just listen to what the adults say and not embrace my hobbies cos they’re not educational and as such grew into a very insecure, immature woman and I’m still now recovering from all the hell secondary school has put me in. So yeah 22 sounds like me when I was at secondary school and it’s depressing how this clear and obvious message to parents and teachers about how they should treat children is completely ignored cos I NEED VALIDATION TO WATCH A CHILDRENS FILM!!!!

[@snorp_lord6141]

I really, really, *really* hated the people saying that Inside Out was 'too complex' or 'too deep' for kids. I was in the exact same situation as the main character multiple times as a kid, and I knew damn well people didn't get it, as much as they pretended they did.

[@SamuraiDudepsgamer]

this video says alot of the things ive thought of pixar for a while. ive grown up with these movies and when i saw the incredibles, when I WAS 5, i saw and knew that helen thought bob was cheating on her. i saw the dark, disturbing revealation that syndrome had killed all the supers to make the perfect robot. it seemed liek brad bird directs his movies for adults then kids. but with Cars, it teaches kids to slow down and enjoy life while also giving them a fun race car movie. the point is, animation is an art form, and within that art you have genres: kids films, action, adventure and all the other genres. it can be meant for kids but animation is not a genre, its art form for brilliant directors like brad bird and john clements. so get your head out your ass for saying 'pIxAR Is NOt MeANt FoR KIIIIIDDSSS' like....stfu.

[@LiftedStarfish]

Obligatory "The Good Dinasaur" comment.

[@theflaminglitten-fo6jd]

I actually really liked that movie nut I know for the majority it was a huge flop

[@CoolMagmar]

@@chey1863 As a person that watched it, I think is because is not a noteworthy movie is just kid and his dog but with a twist and it is like they got good scenes from other movies stitched them together and hoped it came out good, the only part that is memorable is the triceratops scene

[@dashingtothepoint5745]

I’m surprised people have to be told that all Pixar films are for kids, I thought that was common knowledge.

[@cjayden04-87]

That Coco and Cars 2 joke actually killed me

[@jrgoriginal569]

I really love this channel. Lily's bluntness is parallel to none. Keep going at it

[@illusiveaxeman9164]

Soul's message about how the system is failing Twenty-Two completely flew over my family's head. They thought it was just "life is worth living not for a purpose but just for the sake of it" and they didn't think too hard on it. God, I wish I'd had this movie as a kid, it would have been so validating to see.

[@aaronschultz4061]

As always great video Lily.from 2nd grade to 5th grade I was abused by my peers to the point of suicidal thoughts,what did the school do nothing nothing at all,my mother had to threaten to go the news to get them to act,so I know what it's like to be failed by the system.

[@royalteaanimations]

I honestly never picked up the lessons you pointed out in this video. Granted, the lessons were kind of directed to adults, but still. Now I wanna rewatch the Pixar pantheon and see what else I may have missed

[@NyahNyeh]

why did i stop watching your content I forgot how much I enjoyed your writing

[@ZephyrStarchild]

Pixar was my favorite studio growing up and it was because of one movie. Toy Story 2. The Arc Jessie goes through I could relate to very much as a child having been abandoned by my family at a young age. Inside out is also for kids as it's my kids favorite movie, and he uses the characters to show how he's feeling (nonverbal autistic ) This Video really touched me because I've been hearing how soul is not for kids but having seen it and 22's story I can't help but think how it is for kids and how kids who have been abused can relate to her. I know my 10-year-old self could. I mention this because I know I'm not the only one who feels this way. People who have been abused as kids even as adults ( my experience ) look for things that can relate to that to heal. For me, the music in these movies the characters, and these stories were a way for me to thrive in an environment I wouldn't have. While that is sad Without these influences I shudder to think where I would have ended up. These movies were a way for me to express my feelings in a safe way without further abuse and without appearing weak as a child. TLDR: People who say pixar is not for kids.... Please shut the fuck up. You don't know what you are talking about.

[@CoolMagmar]

I once had to take care of a "problem" child, but the only problem the kid had was having terrible parents. Sadly people like these that say "Is not actually for kids" never going to change, because first they will need to accept they like kids stuff and this offends them deeply, because they like to think of themselves as superior and with high intellect, this is why when these sad sacks discovers that anime exist they almost cry on "Finally a cartoon not aimed at kids!" and think that liking anime is a personality trait and start to complain how western animation should be more mature and appeal to adults when their "adult" animes are immature and extremely tropey

[@lennytherat]

You have such a way with words when it comes to insulting narcissistic assholes with an incessant need to be seen as "super superior adult and edgy"

[@maplesummers2023]

“This show is too kiddie” “This movie isn’t for kids” those people need to shut up and admit they don’t like kids.

[@thelilartzy]

Thank you for helping me realize that I’ve been failed by my parents. They always do what you talk about and they made me into a people pleaser to make them happy.

[@untoucheddiguise]

I just need more of 22 doing Sylvanas voice lines.

[@tracybryant5945]

Why do people think kids are just unable to think past the level of a newborn? Honestly we constantly grow in both mind and body and some kids problably could handle ir understand most of these themes if the parents let them think about it and question it... but i guess thats just my own "opinion" and not actual experience or thought RIGHT?

[@SamuraiDoggo14]

Here's a line to keep in mind if you try to gatekeep animation in any way. "Inclusive, not exclusive."

[@rotem5843]

You have such an interesting perspective on pixar movies! You have made connections to the theming and character arcs that I completely missed. It's really making me respect these films more. Great job!

[@artmoonsilva]

I just finished my certification and my mentor teacher used Inside Out as entertainment for her students when she had "extra time" instead of actually talking about the movie and having the students internalize it and mature emotionally. The school system is way too concerned about children's academic abilities and not their life skills.

[@mor3796]

... how much *are* the turnips, though?

[@lhayciasamuels3312]

You know the funny thing is, children, do understand Pixar films better than adults because my little cousin told me that Joy was in the wrong because t the beginning she was being toxic positivity, sadness was the appropriate emotion for Riley who moved schoools

[@jmtaylor0811]

Hey Lily, I was one of those kids who is failed by the school system and for years, I thought it was my fault

[@fourcatsandagarden]

When I saw Inside Out, my first thought was "I wish this movie had come out 15 years ago" because I grew up in an area that actively didn't believe kids could be depressed unless they were abused in a way that adults acknowledged. Everything else was seen as 'attention-seeking' and therefore something to be punished, not helped. And Inside Out was out there calling them the fuck out on that while validating the hardships that kids go through and proving that they don't need their own super tragic backstories for things to get that way. Inside Out is 100000% a kids movie that adults need to learn from, not the other way around. I haven't seen Soul yet because I'm not sure I'm emotionally prepared for it, but it sounds like it's very much the same. Something that kids will absolutely relate to and that adults desperately need to actually learn from.

[@anymeaddict]

Why do people think a movie for kids means it can't also be for adult. You know who watches a lot of movies with kids? Their adult parents. Not saying that its not for kids. Totally for kids. And kids get it. Just saying that I an adult also love and get these movies.

[@Nube-Gamer]

1:25 *FINALLY! IM NOT ALONE ON THE WHOLE CARS 2 IS THE BEST PIXAR MOVIE IDEA*

[@samdarkmoonsamdarkmoon7807]

That end monologue was top tier

[@bryonmurphy7049]

fr tho the rest of society looks down on teenagers and kids is cause they’re the only ones that recognise they deserve respect.

[@ghustinator3300]

Adults feel this deep desire to return to the validating feelings of their youth, provided by the studios they love. So when a movie comes along, of course they want to still be the targeted audience. They can't get with the fact that their not the ones meant to be reached, their the ones the message is being sent to. Instead of superimposing their own selfish interpretation of a deep and meaningful piece of art and ripping away the emotional depth, changing the symbolism and blatantly grabbing at the last shreds of their innocence they need to realize that they're the ones in the wrong and work up the courage to come to terms with kids' ever expanding sense of self, and the roles they play in helping them navigate life. Just stop grinning stupidly as Pixar repeatedly beats you over the head with this message with film after film because all it shows is that you need to fucking. stop.

[@soniaharris5465]

I honestly love the title oh my god

[@WinterRabbit1]

Thank you so much for making this video. I’m so sick and tired of seeing this happen so often.

[@deathwizard1996]

I believe kids are mature enough to understand deeper concepts regardless of the movies. But yeah I agree that people of certain power would abuse their power and hide the problem without taking responsibility for it. I still haven’t trust anyone because of a lot of adults putting blame

[@janemcdermott7099]

Out of all the fanbases that are talked about for being toxic why does nobody bring up pixar fanboys?

[@MommaDusk]

I get excited when a new Pixar movie comes out, because I get to watch something deep with my daughter that she will enjoy. She understands the stories and even asks questions. Yes, the movies can be easily enjoyed by adults, but they're still great for children. Good video. 11/10

[@PaintSplashProductions]

Thank you for saying this! I am not neurodivergent but I felt SO MUCH with 22. I have a problem with stuff like school to the point where I had to redo maths for 3 years while also trying to do college at the same time and let me tell you my emotions got out of control, I was sad, stressed, angry and lonely due to the fact that I felt so stupid because all my friends passed these classes that I was having so much trouble with. So when I rewatched the movie and I picked up on that, I felt like I was about to cry. Joe talking to 22 and helping her figure herself out was so revealing to me that someone actually helped her! I was 22 in that scene! And now that I was able to pass my redo Maths I feel like a ginormous weight is off my shoulders! And people saying that kids can’t understand this film is really annoying, I’m glad people like you and Cell Spex were able to see that too

[@jjthepikazard212]

it's so weird when people say inside out isn't for kids because i was 10 when movie came out & that movie was really good

[@ericaobrien-aquino6064]

This video hit very close to home for me. I'm on the very high end of the Autism Spectrum, but I wasn't diagnosed until 8th Grade in Middle School, my sister who was 7 years younger than me was already diagnosed by that point. From first grade and up I struggled to learn and retain what was being taught, I struggled to make friends and was eventually labeled a "bad kid" or "trouble child" when I started acting out around 4th grade. Things were never worse than when I was in Middle School, I'm an agnostic in the bible belt, I was relentlessly bullied by my classmates for being an "Atheist" and for my being "sheltered" and not knowing what swearing was. No one in my whole school thought to do any tests until an incident where I attacked another student, a girl who'd been bullying me for a whole semester, I was going to be suspended or even expelled if it weren't for fellow classmates coming forth and finally admitting what had been going on. Only then did a teacher think to do a test on me. I am fortunate enough to have been in a School District that had a special needs program, that was able to finally give me an explanation of what was "wrong" with me (There's obviously nothing wrong with being Autistic but for a long time I did genuinely think something about me was wrong or broken). However, many more are not because the system doesn't require other neurodivergent kids like me to get what they need, it's so much easier just to give up on us. Thank you for making this video, Lily, people need to understand that just because something has mature themes doesn't mean it's not for kids. This movie is more than just a story about a guy's "Death" or mid-life crisis. Note: Any dumbass who's gonna tell a kid to get out of a theatre JUST because they said something is a fucking dumbass, holy shit I can never get used to the fact people like this ACTUALLY exist OH MY GOD.

[@jamesnhatcher6522]

I absolutely loved this video. Thank you Lily😊

[@AngryIrishBenjamin]

It's just like Snyder cultists who clearly don't believe a sense of humour and light banter between characters is compatible with making a good superhero movie. I'd go so far as to say they stem from the same desire: to shore up insecurity about liking movies aimed at a younger audience by denying either their target audience or their quality even exist.

[@Kull1339]

Gasp, lily as to think I would ever do such a thing, I scoff at you. But the way- I have this sack of turnips for sale here, a dozen for 10 US dollars, this deal only found here

[@metroidnerd9001]

Very well made points. I will be sure to pass them on if I ever get into a discussion of this sort.

[@akuma4321]

soul really resonated with me. i've struggled with adhd and bipolar disorder for seventeen years, and i was always labeled a "problem child" by my teachers and my parents. instead of trying to help me, i've just been treated like a lost cause. i felt the same way with inside out. it's been like this since elementary school. i'm tired of people acting like messages are too """matuuuuurrrrreeee""" for kids while acting like petulant babies the moment someone mentions they may be in the wrong when taking care of a child.

[@bleakautomaton4808]

I'm glad someone said it, let alone two using the Soul as a jumping off point. I know I get my own melancholy yet the pretentious naval-gazing of the 'not for kids' is just sad. Fucking pathetic even lol.

[@XxLordDarthVaderxX]

I made almost the same argument as you went my brothers and I talk about the film; their firts thing that came out of the mouths was "This movie is not for children" and then I almost went mad. WTF? Later our conversation went similar to this video.

[@goldenhorse4823]

Pretty much. School is obsesed with idea of stopping progres of not blaming themselfs and just saying cildren are the problem. That is pretty much giving power of time to the clock that stopped ticking years ago. Original founder of school was a big sexist and even he admited that his sytem is flawed but that is just start and that he belives that others will inprove it. He was wrong at that part.

[@l.eveline3955]

I'm 15 and when Riley's mom tells her not to be sad for her dad, like almost everyday for me because my dad gets mad like a child and i can't be to happy without them to They don't like it when i show an emotion other then mild joy

[@johaniskandar9363]

Try to hang on and try to convey how your feeling to your parents. If they act like children and ignore your problem, try to reach out to your counseler for help.