Stouty vs Crush (Mordhau dev)

[@Stouty]

Coaching: r.metafy.gg/mtp3o5Y (Get 10$ credit after your first 10$ order with this link) Use above link first, then book here: mfy.gg/@stouty

[@aj-ug9hh]

5:55 who would guess developer consoles have a feint spam option

[@aj-ug9hh]

@@TravisStockton no one is thinking that. he is a comp player while the other is a dev who spends most of the time coding the game.

[@maxwellwhitty1415]

@@TravisStockton nobody thinks like that

[@Stouty]

@@TravisStockton context: crush doesn't play his own game

[@FOWST]

@@Stouty I have the feeling that they are really bad at balancing weapons or maps. I tried hard in the forums but they wouldn't listen. Half of level 100+ players is using maul or Bloodlust in frontline and invasion. It's clearly broken but hasn't been nerfed a bit. What are your thoughts on messer jpegs, leanback stabs and all the other animation shinanegans / abuse? Could you live without them?

[@kupitm3n728]

Next video - I got banned from mordhau

[@AT-vt9rt]

🤣🤣🤣

[@JeanMC_]

Lol

[@bobkratos8177]

@@JeanMC_ jean minecraft

[@JeanMC_]

@@bobkratos8177 DumbKratos

[@bignose4703]

He's clearly been taking notes off of my gameplay, run in, get smashed, repeat

[@FartSmucker]

19-29 in Invasion, FUCK YEAH.

[@stefan1924]

@@FartSmucker More like 4-65 on duelyard.

[@TheeActualKeyboardWarrior]

thats why they call him crush.

[@ForeverLovePizza]

I was just about to say the dudes been copping my strats

[@ZomboJoe]

dont bully him too hard, he might delete the entire game

[@18NakedCowboysAtRamRanch]

Based mr z

[@Blaze-nc2nh]

No way, a wild Mr.Z spotted

[@wag0NE]

Probably the only person who can't actually blame 'the game and its bullshit' for his failures... He made it after all haha

[@SnuffySpaghetti]

He'd be the absolute last person allowed to complain. He's the one who made it and also REFUSES to hear ideas from people with valid points. Crush is a loser.

[@TeamOneDay]

​@@SnuffySpaghetti Not only that, he will change the game depending on his playstyle. The stuff that Stouty used to beat him? Nerfed or tweaked in his favor. I guarantee if Crush fought Stouty or another pro player again he'll nerfed/"tweak" more stuff.

[@MrWongWey]

@@TeamOneDay He also kicks any player that absolutely shits on him in the game. He’s a loser and the dead game he made is his only iota of power.

[@SuperMysteryboi]

@@TeamOneDay stouty should beat him w gs so everyone can stop fucking using it

[@Kalinik.]

remember that the guy with 0-27 is in charge of the game's balance

[@Proxi_Ex]

tbh look at pretty much every other game.. most devs aren't pro lvl at their own game.. often they rely on stats to balance!

[@wilihey1425]

every dev team in a game like this should have a pro or a very good player keeping in check with the devs

[@simplecat8736]

For Honor devs don't even play their own game, they even forget characters names and abilities on streams lol

[@szczypawa]

@@Proxi_Ex What really shook me is how Stouty said they don't try out the changes with any top tier players. I thought they were doing that since a bit after release, I actually thought this was some old recording before that because he's playing BR and back then they didn't do that but no, they don't do it to this day, amazing.

[@Wesolyman]

@@wilihey1425 Game has to be playable at all levels. If you make super skill-based it dies very quickly. The reality is there have to be noob weapons, noob playstyles etc. Like shotguns and bullshit weapons in fps, like easy but effective champions in league + team soloq experience (you sometimes win because you get carried) and all that stuff. Even fighter games that are effectively super skillful because it's 1vs1 have characters that are easy or with bullshit mechanics that allow noobs to steal some wins. Basically if u want to be successful because of your abilities and seek for the perfect skill game you should "play" life instead of games.

[@legalisecrack]

Gets owned by kicks, nerfs kicks, realises kicks weren’t that OP, reverts kicks back to normal. Brilliant use of Dev time

[@Stouty]

to be fair kicks are really annoying again, I think he had it right with the nerf

[@legalisecrack]

@@Stouty they don’t see anything wrong with riposte kicks though, I don’t think they should be in the game

[@organicleaf]

@@legalisecrack dont know if it got changed again cuz i stopped playing, but i think after the kick re-buff even the hitbox was fucked, one for the leg and like a second later for the foot, which made it really janky. so ye, he really does seem like someone who knows what he is doing

[@gunterdonnerfaust9616]

BRO *gets dumpstered like 10-1* "u got lucky bro" this guy

[@facehurt7606]

0-27

[@CHR3S_1]

He's so toxic and deluded

[@MrKrossix]

Honestly can't tell if the dude in the chat after crush is sarcastic or not ''Indeed. Stouty got lucky''

[@ninjatehdergenbern5011]

4:17 "kicks getting nerfed" ~Cocoman_ Well that happened 6:54 "He's probably going to nerf crouch now. I've crouched way to many times" Stouty Well that happened too

[@brenbail2000]

did crouch get a nerf? Havent played in a while

[@moony5308]

@@brenbail2000 no longer instant

[@HairlessMonkeyKing]

@@brenbail2000 Yeah the crouch is now slower in response than how it used to

[@thefateweaverchannel2288]

Isn't That the dev who banned a lad for killing him with a frying pan?

[@DoggoDeBoggo]

He kicked GIRU for killing him with a pan in a comp duel(i think)

[@thefateweaverchannel2288]

@@DoggoDeBoggo HAHAHAHA Hilarious

[@austinbyrd4164]

@@hellocommaspacebitch not anymore. Giru hates crush

[@logie3020]

@@austinbyrd4164 yeah no shit crush sounds like a weak man

[@Stoonks]

@@austinbyrd4164 why does giru hate crush?

[@benh9047]

hate it when the guy you're fighting gets lucky and dumpsters you 9 times in a row

[@wileymcgraw5511]

Just a stroke of bad luck really. Lol

[@zetastein6031]

unlucky always man

[@YeNZeC]

Next day = Stouty has been banned. Few hours after. Some level 3 has 90 kills on frontline. 😁

[@RiseSoup]

I think this duel happened before crush's daily cocaine intake thats why he's not playing very well

[@jordanweir7187]

How did you even get him onto this server to duel lol, thats an achievement in and of itself, cool to see the content on here tho

[@booowie8374]

games player base is small

[@booowie8374]

devs show extra love to players

[@Liam-ke2hv]

@charlie caruso no they actually prefer the players who suck, those are the only ones they listen to

[@randomlygeneratedname7171]

@@Liam-ke2hv Because of a big learning curve I forgot the term for it but it creates a skill lock and new players will just get demolished by a older noob who in turn gets demolished by a average player. They want to grow the player base not lose them.

[@TheAsarath]

@@randomlygeneratedname7171 Mordhau has a lot of this, it took me over 100 hours to start getting consistently even K/D much less positive. Not a lot of games have that sort of lock out, it really feels like the old medieval times where you have to practice one swing motion over and over until you get it perfect.

[@dokusa]

"Why I got banned from Mordhau.. - St0uty vs Crush (Part2)"

[@nates9778]

Crush just gonna end up nerfing Stouty, he's too good

[@Stouty]

happened multiple times already...

[@dalekmasterblaster585]

@@Stouty he banned stouty :(

[@RaulBaus]

@@Stouty Nerfed maul because of stouty

[@MrFirefox]

@@Stouty the unnerfable

[@astartesfanboy5294]

@@dalekmasterblaster585 wait he did? oof

[@Artiiisto]

that must hurt on a personal level

[@Gurdmungus]

Look at that he can't even read his own animations.. who would of guessed...

[@thrax7051]

Came back to this video after a year. In retrospect, I think it's good that he was willing to duel one of the top players in the game. Seemed like his comments in chat were just banter, and he wasn't mad or anything. Idk though I wasn't there.

[@mychonkers]

He was salty af, if that’s not salt then salt doesn’t exist nowhere

[@Yung_Goudaa]

Kick is def getting nerfed now

[@derpybookshelf1416]

A man ahead of his time

[@bigman6251]

@@derpybookshelf1416 oh you dont even know brother

[@Sassy_Witch]

oh my fucking god it actually was LMAO

[@Yaamaari]

wow they actually did it

[@krisvind1715]

Crouch also got nerfed

[@keriti1129]

Ohhh, so the reason why everyone is a manchild in this game is because the admins / devs are manchilds too!!! that makes sense.. actually

[@kube410]

you are very smart for anime

[@tally9542]

Reaganomics lmao

[@exodus1759]

Most of the devs are pretty agreeable cool dudes, Crush is easily the worst of them from what I’ve seen

[@bruhmoment2095]

I agree, but you, an anime fan can not talk about man children.

[@CalSprigley]

Better a man child than a weeb😂

[@vampiric172]

I’ve never played mordhau but Dead by daylight has the same problem, one of the devs was getting destroyed by a perk that made skill checks ( basically a qte) harder so he nerfed the perk

[@Splunkster]

DbD devs are notorious manchildren. They can't play their own game at all and would rather be assholes towards people who actually understand how it should be balanced.

[@blackraptormoses6838]

That's more common than you think. A dev will have trouble or see a player have trouble and assume that the mechanic is broken while the player just thinks that they suck.

[@Dibbles115]

@@blackraptormoses6838 This is why devs should listen to player feedback instead of changing it instantly, dumb decisions like that kill a game

[@maximusthegoat8034]

Almo2001 and crush are one and the same lmao

[@luckyshottzZZ]

next patch they'll nerf stouty by adding 200 ping to his connection

[@zoharnakash7361]

Bruh Im more impressed you were in a Battle Royal game more than playing against crush. Finding a Battle Royal server is rarer than fighting devs these days lmao All jokes aside I loved BR in mordhau, I really miss it.

[@Nikolas5842]

it's his own server BATTLE ROYAEL EU or something like that

[@neopocalypse675]

I'm pretty sure there is a discord server that does battle royal on certain days

[@zoharnakash7361]

@@neopocalypse675 Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh I wanna join I miss BR so much

[@Stouty]

@@zoharnakash7361 discord.gg/GnP2ukKaSc

[@zoharnakash7361]

@@Stouty Thanks a lot!

[@santadog6753]

"That's not a duel, that...Is an execution"

[@kriegergoose]

Watching this video again after patch 22 was released, you can really see how a lot of the combat changes were made to favor crush’s playstyle. I used to hate the people that theorized about crush doing such things but now is more apparent than ever lol

[@zxcursed-]

Agree that's why playercount drops every patch, Someone like patches in which u see nerfs and buffs everything? changes meta every patch.

[@Dibbles115]

It's why I've stuck to Chivlary honestly

[@EscapeTheGuitar]

I've watched this video several times just for the mere crush-crushing masterpiece it is

[@wileymcgraw5511]

Me too

[@ghostdog4330]

Presumably they'll keep nerfing the game mechanics until Crush can beat Stouty. Rock, paper, scissors incoming.

[@BattlerEvil]

combat already feels like rock paper scissors ngl

[@pogboss420]

Stouty spittin straight facts

[@Proxi_Ex]

a lot of players and even high lvl players hate on crush.. on reddit he is a meme.. tbh I don't really know where all the hate is coming from, if somebody could clear things up that would be nice!!

[@adam7802]

To put it bluntly he can be quite childish. Surprised he did this though so fair play to him.

[@gunide]

Exactly what stouty said. Making these trash game 'balances' without consulting/testing with the veteran community. Can't know if something is broken or not unless the best of the best test it thoroughly.

[@Proxi_Ex]

@@gunide I see.. yeah testing with the "pro" scene is what a lot of game devs should do but often they don't!

[@TheCandieWhore]

I matched in the same team as crush once, he was trolling and trapping people in spawn. I tried to ask him why and he just started attacking me, I then called him a bitch and he kicked me from the game.. that’s why nobody likes crush

[@ancalagon1144]

@@TheCandieWhore HAHAHAHA

[@OysterMassage]

I remember when I was like 7, watching dev's play Halo 2 and pull the craziest tech, unstoppable with a sniper, and purely influenced by their competitive scene that they essentially established by showing the highest extent of what was known to be possible in the sandbox. This was peak, and I am really disappointed that the market for games has turned the scene into something really wishy washy, with little care for perfection of an idea or a concept with the help of the people you are apparently making the game for.

[@BadCompany002]

I 100% believe this duel is why kicks got fucked in the newest update.

[@TheOracle...]

loving the stouty content recently

[@moony9028]

daily uploads lets gooooo

[@queso.4726]

he really just crushed the shit outta crush LMAO

[@XSINITY]

Very funny, the joke was that he was using a variation of crush hence the Devs name crush and added "ed" which spells crushed, crushed means deformed, pulverized, or forced inwards by compression. So in terms of beating an opponent he's saying that he beat crush at a high level almost as a term of disrespect, just like he didn't let him have the change to hit him. Very hilarious 10/10.

[@af1nity]

@@XSINITY Even more funny when you know that crush used to call himself crushed...haha...?

[@XSINITY]

@@af1nity no.

[@queso.4726]

@@XSINITY Good analysis

[@cougar9610]

Fun fact : After this, crush nerfed ES into the ground while messer, zweihander, and greatsword remain OP

[@rhodesiansneverdie7515]

+rep for killing a toxic dev

[@neverseemstoAsh]

of fucking course crush uses edgy black armor and deep cruel voice

[@nugget1953]

Eyy, I was the Mario in the video Edit: turns out Mario didn't make it into the video. I want a full refund :c

[@YegaSRT]

"u got lucky bro"...10 times

[@TheTrueGhostBuster]

2:43 stouty is a time traveler?

[@roguebogey]

He really did have to get kicks and crouches nerfed didn't he

[@TheVidCaptain]

Dev can't even read the broken animations. sad but not shocking that this game struggles to have 3k ppl on and i haven't seen a full frontline in ages

[@ubbo3466]

No more dragging in the next patch after this

[@allaltitudeproductions454]

crush has no possible way to defend himself, either he openly admits he's bad, or he blames the game. but if he blames the game, that's him calling himself out, because he is responsible for the balance. so you're also just saying your own combat is bad. "yes, I lost, but I convinced myself that I didn't lose" -absolute pixel on one salty player in SoT. basically "the only thing broken is how long it takes you to kill me" 0-27 k/d. discrepancy detected.

[@OGCMayne]

Still waiting on those fights that feel like real fights.

[@plaguepandemic5651]

Play in low gold on ranked and you see it a lot more

[@roguebogey]

This vid aged well...

[@rathfoks5051]

IDK what the overall context of the situation is, but its cool when game devs interact with their playerbase like this. There seems to be an underlying tone of toxicity which, again, i dont fully understand the situation, but it makes me a little sad to think about. Also most multiplayer game devs aren't pros at their own game believe it or not.

[@bonelessman56]

True, but crush is kinda bad at the game he made and the fact that he is the guy in charter for the balancing and considering he was a chivlary pro (the game people used to play before mordhau) is kinda bad aka some things are very broken and unbalanced but since crush either likes to abuse said broken things or genuinly doesn't know what's wrong with them it's part of the problem + he's known for being kinda toxic

[@sirnotawesome]

@@bonelessman56 he also does copious amounts of cocaine

[@chadshowdown9382]

I’ll repost: Watch “Giru insults Crush” it’s a 40 min compilation of Giru explaining in detail how Crush ruined the game with his own hubris and ego, thinking that he knows best and refusing to listen to feedback. Caused a lot of players to quit. He literally banned Giru, arguably best player from feedback. Crush is toxic in himself by letting his ego determine all his interactions with feedback and pros.

[@Stouty]

crush is a comp player at heart and engages with the community in the same toxic, aggressive manner as most chiv vets, I don't mind it because I'm used to it but a lot people are rubbed the wrong way, also he insulted my gamemode (goldrush) earlier in the stream so he gets trashtalked here

[@rathfoks5051]

@@Stouty That's quite tragic really.

[@triplehernan5155]

IT'S EVERYDAY BRO WITH THAT STOUTY CHANNEL FLOW

[@jcdentongaming1304]

Denton pfp gang

[@triplehernan5155]

@@jcdentongaming1304 lessgo

[@jcdentongaming1304]

@@triplehernan5155 eyyyy

[@naughtyjupiter]

england is his city

[@AtroposOrbis]

Let's remember that the dev took on a fight that he knew he wouldn't win in Stouty's home court, with latency disadvantage and during a livestream. He has no fear apparently and kept fighting without any tilt. At least he's interacting with the community still unlike many devs who leave their games to die after they've made their cash. Hats off to Crush

[@chadshowdown9382]

Ok Crush.

[@chadshowdown9382]

Ironically the community and game would be more alive if he just left it after it was made OMEGALUL PepeLaugh He doesn’t know

[@Stouty]

yeah respect for playing vs me but he's EU there was no latency disadvantage

[@naughtyjupiter]

You can see the tilt in the constant weapon changes. He barely interacts with the community at all and rarely plays the game. He’s inactive on discord but when he actually does get on discord, he doesn’t listen to private feedback unless it’s certain people who gobble his whole dick. Imagine a dev who bans people from private feedback and removes roles because they gave him negative feedback. Imagine saying “hats off” to a dev who barely does his fucking job lmfao Marox even said he’s extremely slow.

[@Bebolife12345]

yeah don't give your hat off to someone who literally basically killed the game.

[@SpecialNeedsMuffin]

Mordhau is just gonna disappear from our libraries soon

[@sninctbur3726]

The real Mordhau was the friends we made along the way

[@vipoerx4532]

@@sninctbur3726 Literally the best part!

[@NeonIcyYT]

2:37 Welp, you got the kick nerf alright

[@DlES-IRAE]

DID I SEE A NAJO CLASS THERE? omg im dying, the memories

[@demturkeys1811]

I love the mindset of, "alright this dev is gonna nerf anything I dominate him with, lets pick something bad."

[@WhatAMagician]

I remember crush as being pretty mid at chiv and very toxic. He'd get trashed in NA servers, say it was ping, then get trashed in EU and blame NA players high ping. Good times. At least he put his money where his mouth was and actually made a game.

[@ajamchomp]

Nice to see a dev that actually plays their own game though

[@annoyedzebra6362]

M watching this and grinning, pretending that I'm not obviously worse than even Crush

[@organicleaf]

this would explain the latest changes to the combat

[@longcat7673]

Thanks for uploads man!

[@bocajmed]

we unironically got that kick nerf, lmfao

[@pawesomepal7827]

The madman actually actually nerfed kicks because of this.

[@Jedentheconsume]

5:54 let me 1v1 crush i will animation abuse him with his own animations xD

[@rein5754]

We got a kick nerf 4 months later

[@kronk8023]

STOUTY ABSOULUTLEY PUMPING VIDS OUT

[@Digitalis17894]

Hell yes, Mass Effect soundtrack. Did you play them Stouty?

[@Stouty]

yup

[@Rev8]

Can we take a moment to appreciate the daily uploads

[@AllTheOthers]

I do HEMA in real life and this is exactly what not too do. feinting over and over is how you die in two seconds.

[@deadcats6083]

Well this was sadly predictive. Stouty bodies crush and now crouch and kick are nerfed.

[@Martial_Autist]

Don't forget the already niche shield.

[@guisardyannick2973]

Next nay stouty launch his game find out axe and warhammer disappear from him inventory.

[@ballingkitten433]

i miss this era of mordhau.

[@coolboy9979]

Should have advertised your coaching at the end

[@yungchangsta]

Dude don’t kill him too much he might delay the patchies!

[@markgolenkov4951]

Also would be useful to show greatswords aссel flick from neutral. He would like it.

[@zablogful]

yeah, one of the most fucked up animation in the whole game.

[@pandemonium2536]

Considering most of the match there models were acting like contortionists due to how stupid the feinting and morphing can look I doubt that they care about readability.

[@mr.spooks1]

"the only broken thing is how long it takes for u to kill me" what a legend. My respect for him has grown after he said that

[@lavasource1763]

TBE "Triple" Hernan Vs Stouty ft10 wen ??

[@wileymcgraw5511]

Why am I not surprised crush uses the cruel voice unironically

[@Stouty]

that's crush

[@wileymcgraw5511]

Sorry, typo.

[@wileymcgraw5511]

You aren’t cruel, you use knight, personally I usually do the Scottish one or Floppish

[@jimzeez]

6:52 "probably gonna nerf crouch" was this before the update that slowed down crouch speed and removed the ability to mash it?

[@whaleshey]

yes that was the very next update

[@ltsYuri]

This is why kicks got nerfed :(

[@user-jt3ns5mu2w]

IM THE BROWN GUY IN THE BACK

[@gunide]

Racist

[@RTXonerix]

wait wtf, why is Stouty's kicks look faster than mine in game? Is there different type of kicking or am I imagining things?

[@Psyfonify]

Imagining

[@Mentat13]

it's been 1 month but there are different types of kicks, if you neutral kick it comes fast, if you feint/morph then kick you do a very slow kick etc

[@danielwoods8384]

And this is the guy who makes all the changes in the game... A semi-competent person who spends just a few days on a duel server would get to his level...

[@Dean-gw3jp]

eh, just because he happens to not be able to beat the literal number 1 player in mordhau in a ft10 doesnt mean he shouldnt be in charge of balance changes, it is his game afterall.

[@Zztp0p]

@@Dean-gw3jp As much as I don't like crush and his changes ur right D. Stouty is #1 and ofc he wont beat him but biased kids dont get it.

[@naughtyjupiter]

@@Dean-gw3jp It’s not even that. Stouty is using comp fundamentals and crush can’t even compete. He’s a chamber bot and can’t read drags or accels. The constant panic parries and early chambers on drags show that. He honestly shouldn’t be behind wep changes and should stick to animations (even though he can’t even do that)

[@Dean-gw3jp]

@@naughtyjupiter you try dueling stouty, he will make you look just as bad

[@danielwoods8384]

It's not that he's not as good as stouty. It's that he's arrogant enough to not listen to anyone's opinions, yet he's not even remotely good at his own game. For reference, go listen to Giru's comments on crush.

[@chriswolf529]

faint spamming is the lamest way to fight

[@Gaffywastaken]

"Hopefully get a kick nerf aswell". Well that didn't age well.

[@robsche1337]

Ive watched this like 4 times now

[@PANCAKEMINEZZ]

Ah, so THIS is what it looks like from the perspective of the guys who beat my ass into the ground in duels. Lol

[@captainbean3114]

crush please, keep this content coming, youre hilarious

[@Standforworldpeace]

Eh yeah he sucks sometimes being a dev. But we all love this game don’t lie. Even if it’s shitty in a lot of ways, it’s still my fave. Just enjoy the ride before servers are gone

[@jonathanlee5314]

Stouty is the coaches' coach.

[@torzhentorzhen344]

Average duels fan Vs Average bot practices enjoyer

[@henrysarson7417]

You absolutely love to see it

[@hardboiled2987]

Lol I get why they made the kick a press to lose key now. Stouty punished his misplays perfectly with them.

[@Iverson3]

Stouty uploading daily now lets gooo

[@Boutz]

I can remember some nice moment in chiv 1. From IO team RK team. 10 years ago, we have a good competitiv scene. After all this years some name stay... Sophax, StormChazer, KING, Happy, Crush. But onli one name become millionary.

[@BrassBashers]

This is like if the Hound fought an infant

[@zander3096]

I'm liking the uploads recently

[@barringtonlevy1941]

so this is why kicks got nerfed

[@evanchojnowski2895]

"you got lucky bro" lmao

[@psydemekum]

Hi Crush, look at all the salt u get, insane ^^ Stouty u are insane too. Such minimal movement, so hard to read.

[@notj6524]

damn I just came two years later for the gold rush for this game

[@mrcombine7983]

He nerfed crouch and kick lol

[@internetperson335]

Not fair, Crush didn't get his daily cocaine dosage!