Straight Edge & Plant-Based: Toby Morse's Recipe For A Meaningful Life | Toby Morse X Rich Roll

Rich sits down with Toby Morse, the frontman of the hardcore punk band H2O and host of the One Life One Chance podcast. The conversation explores maintaining a Positive Mental Attitude, parenting, punk rock, and much more. To read more about Toby and peruse the full show notes, go here 👉🏾bit.ly/richroll816
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:13 Cultivating Friendship
00:05:10 Meeting Josh Brolin
00:06:49 The Hardcore Scene's Influence on Friendship
00:08:46 The Challenge of Maintaining Friendships in LA
00:12:36 Max's Musical Journey
00:14:14 The Longevity of the Band
00:16:43 Living the Punk Rock Ethos
00:19:45 Managing All Merch Orders Personally
00:25:09 Overlap of Punk and Animal Rights Activism
00:28:57 Young Musicians Caring About Well-Being
00:30:38 Sponsor Break
00:31:44 Toby's Journey with Better Self-Being
00:33:53 The Importance of Self-Care
00:34:46 The Benefits of Cold Plunges
00:35:49 Appreciation for Sinead O'Connor
00:40:48 The Importance of Supplementation
00:41:30 Discovering the Benefits of Molasses
00:42:03 Finding Vegan Options on Tour with Happy Cow
00:47:14 The Importance of Maintaining Positivity
00:48:34 The Struggle to Make a Difference in the World
00:58:15 Self-Discovery through the One Life One Chance Podcast
00:59:53 Uncovering Past Traumas in Therapy
01:03:35 The Power of Face-to-Face Conversations
01:04:43 The Real Travis Barker
01:08:09 The Power of Podcasting
01:11:58 Liquid Death Water and Music Collaboration
01:15:53 Touring and Shapel Lacey's Band: Mad Peaceful
01:18:13 The Crew
01:18:59 Running with Rich
01:19:51 Embracing Lifestyle Practices
01:22:15 Credits
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[@richroll]

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[@pippilongstocking2864]

Rich ❤ again and again I ask Where did the desire to adopt this stilted media speak catch you by the throat . May I suggest exploring the Liberation of your natural voice Breaking free of limiting conventions . Sets the spirit free Rewind rewild living Long haired & free more conducive to the man whose tent is his cathedral.

[@debbiewall2160]

I'm a punk drummer grrrl and had my "a-ha" moment in 1978 when a little calf I met licked my face, making me realize that they were no different than a dog. I immediately stopped eating meet, transitioned to veganism and became involved in the AR movement. In the 80's I co-wrote a Ruggedy Annes tune about factory farming called "Pretty Package." I always wonder when punks aren't vegan since they should be the first to see through societal bulls**t. By the way, blackstrap molasses is also high in calcium.

[@kathleenkulp240]

I think that social media is the negativity that inhabits our lives. Coming out of that digital haze and being in the world FOR REAL presents a very different perspective. Let's do more of that.

[@susie1770]

Yes yes yes❤

[@xzouix]

Negativity has been here before the age of Internet. Most of the people will never find out where the negativity comes from to them. If you feel like social media is what brings negativity to your mind, don't use social media, and you'll be healed.

[@Cr8vkel]

I love when Rich has these punk rock dudes on… and true artists in general

[@andrewthorpking5479]

Toby Morse is the real deal. Been a fan for over 30 years

[@PeteMooore]

Love it man! Episodes like this make me miss John Joseph... his appearance on the show changed my entire life!

[@suzydinapoligagliardi8743]

Love Toby!!!! H2O fan 20+ yrs here!!!

[@JustinRennolds-um1ne]

Incredible episode. Morse, is a living legend. XXX BROTHERHOOD Thanks for keeping it real and for the continued inspiration...

[@asab167]

I am glad they talked about therapy. I love Toby, his positivity, but it is good to hear vulnerability because sometimes hyper positivity can seem surfacey. He is a good dude ❤

[@bakeraus]

Shout to Toby

[@dudeinthecrowd]

It good to see new podcast, I am all ears to listen to. Let`s go!

[@PowerShellNoob]

Toby, H20 and the hardcore scene taught me a lot about life. MVHC is what I grew up in, and it's helped me grow tremendously!

[@LoveBandP]

Such a great interview! What a genuine person❤🌱

[@wertcon]

Great episode, great guest. Stay hxc, stay positive.

[@ruthannlewis6471]

Best Podcaster on KZbin ❤

[@gerardschaefer6495]

one life one chance!

[@patrickburke5453]

Monday morning - 6:02 EST > Rollin’ with Rich. Les’Go!

[@charjacobs6320]

Love this talk, down to earth and honest. As a scandinavian punk kid, who work sin music im so glad to see more people are adopting a healthier lifestyle and doing cold plunges. Always travel with back up food, great healthy options where you only need a kettle

[@lauraestes9304]

I quit eating meat in 1985...in Florida...i didnt even know a soul that ate that way. No internet either. Ive never had to go to a doctor for an illness since then. Im 55 and the only medical care ive had was for accidents trauma surgery. The surgeon told me he never saw bones fuse so fast as mine when i was 40 and shattered my arm. No processed food or fake vegan products.. No cooked oils no sugar no table salt..no alcohol.

[@pawelzawislak1671]

Toby is a legend. So as Rich. Vegan Straight Edge for life!

[@mariaangelova8275]

I get sad and sometimes depressed, but overall, I've been told that I'm annoyingly cheerful. Honestly, I love my annoyingly cheerful self and im not going to change that. ❤

[@t.thompson9977]

Such a great podcast! I’m new to the legend of Rich Roll….. awesome stuff

[@carolgerber6375]

Great listen! Thoroughly enjoyed this.

[@luzaguirre2830]

If we truly value something.. we will Make time for it.

[@davidiruya657]

One of my favourite episodes of my favourite podcast. I loved the vibes. What a great guy Toby Morse. I was not into punk music but I am really enjoying it recently. Boom Boom Kid and Fun People froom Argentina hardcore punk scene are also vegan activists and huge bands. VEGAN for the animals ❤

[@RachaelCrowDrums]

Loved this conversation…molasses…try a spoon mixed with tahini! Omg ❤❤❤

[@xxxxxx1427]

Hey, I'm watching your second interview (after The Amazing Courtney Dauwalter) . Toby Morse is a legend. Thanks for the interview🙏 Go vegan Kido XXX. Life is good. I like you Rich 🙂

[@aaron-dm2bw]

I've met his son out in the water at Malibu...very nice young man. I remember he bought a board off me and when he called me and Toby's number popped up....I was like, dude ur dad is the man!

[@stevebohr880]

Great great podcast

[@beckybecky1725]

I baked vegan molasses cookies and they were the shit

[@tylerwhitney3443]

Been vegan 8+, substance free 15+

[@zenveg]

Wish I had friends like these two... heck, any friends that at least think and feel the same about these subjects.

[@felepi]

Toby is the best!

[@vegfr]

❤❤❤

[@NicholasHallows]

YESSS!! H2O go!

[@dorothyjabaley1666]

I LOVE H2O!!!!!

[@maxdecleyn]

"Molasses is a prime example of a junk food. This is a product which has been so degraded that it really should not be called a "food" at all. It has been refined, processed, contaminated with poisons and boiled to such an extent that it could never be of any benefit and, in fact, will contribute to toxicosis if ingested. So let us take a look at this "super junk food." - T. C. Fry, life science health system

[@TheScottyLincoln]

Would have loved to run in that crew at 1:24!

[@MichaelMankong]

Sweet

[@lisablanchard8915]

Hey Rich. RFK Jr. has been in recovery for 40 years and he is all about eating healthy and intermittent fasting...a spiritual man ,he would be a very interesting guest on your show!

[@vegangames3468]

❤

[@reefbrazendale1531]

Hell yea love toby

[@seanbraun4067]

toby rules

[@sugashaner]

I MADE IT MOM !!

[@brianmurphy5313]

Rich, get RFK Jr. on the show. Just do it. Aside from his 40+ years of being deeply committed to the principles of being in recovery and practicing stoicism, among other things, I just really think if you had him on it would one of your all-time great shows. Anyway.... yes, I'm a supporter of RFK Jr. In quick, random order, here's some of my reasons for supporting RFK Jr... -genuinely wants to heal the 'culture war' divide in our country, and he has the ability to, being liked by many different 'types' of people from across the spectrum of issues and ideas, who are tired of the 2-party duopoly -calm, humble, has integrity, has courage, truth seeker in general, thinks for himself (not a DNC/RNC puppet) -not phony -incorruptible, cannot be bought -thoughtful and introspective -deeply considers problems and possible solutions -wants to get rid of 'Citizens United' and the power of the big private money controlling government -vocal about putting an end to corporate capture over government (pharma, banks, oil, military industrial complex) -wants to get us out of 'forever wars' and to pull back on and expose the corruption within the military industrial complex -wants to pull back NATO and resolve the Ukraine problem via negotiations -vocal about the dishonesty and agendas of commercial media -wants to abolish all pharmaceutical advertisements on television (this has major influence on the 'news' narratives) -wants to keep the pharmaceutical industry honest with safety testing, transparency, etc -wants to get rid of government assist crony capitalism and subsidies for big ag, oil, etc -advocate for civil liberties -vocally against censorship (will free Snowden and Assange on 'day 1') -against mandates and police state-like policies -classical liberal sensibilities with respect of others (without the 'woke' or fake identity politics) -vocal commitment to transparency regarding FBI, CIA, NSA over-stepping and out-stepping -passionate about environmental and ecological concerns -passionate about cleaning our food supply and exposing the unhealthy ingredients in processed 'foods' -wants to bring preventative health more into public discourse; nutrition, exercise, etc -will immediately close the border (this is not some republican scare issue, it is a very major issue - for many reasons) -has an excellent plan to make homes affordable for all, including a program that backs mortgages at 3% and a tax structure to keep Black Rock from continuing to buy everyone out (this also will bring rent cost down dramatically) -due to his family/background, he's well-learned from the inside of the various power structures -due to his decades as an attorney successfully taking on major corporations, as well as government regulatory corruption, he is exceptionally well-suited for taking on the myriad of corporate capture over our government

[@dameanvil]

00:01 🤝 Toby Morse emphasizes the importance of maintaining friendships despite busy schedules, expressing gratitude for those who showed him the value of genuine connections. 02:18 🙌 Cultivating friendships is essential, as demonstrated by Toby Morse's relentless efforts, serving as a model for fostering meaningful relationships. 03:45 📞 Toby Morse highlights the significance of regularly checking in and spending quality time with friends, even amidst life's busy schedules. 07:13 🎸 Toby Morse attributes his commitment to friendship to his experiences in the hardcore punk scene, where he found a sense of community and support. 10:29 🎶 The enduring appeal of hardcore punk music is evident, with Toby Morse noting its ability to transcend generations and maintain a vibrant community. 13:47 🥁 Toby Morse reflects on his son's involvement in his band, illustrating a generational shift while maintaining the band's energy and relevance. 15:11 💼 Toby Morse discusses the DIY ethos of his band's career, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and genuine connection over commercial success. 16:50 💥 Toby Morse emphasizes unapologetically being himself, living drug-free, and defying mainstream expectations. 18:01 🛹 Toby Morse maintains a youthful spirit, attributing it to his lifestyle choices of not partying and maintaining a plant-based diet. 18:44 🌞 Toby Morse acknowledges experiencing moments of darkness but strives to focus on the positive aspects of life, including family and music. 20:35 📦 Toby Morse personally handles all aspects of merchandise for his band, enjoying the direct connection with fans despite challenges. 21:44 🔧 Toby Morse values maintaining a hands-on approach to his work, finding authenticity and satisfaction in the process. 22:57 🚫 Toby Morse's commitment to a drug-free and vegan lifestyle stems from a young age, influenced by family and punk rock culture. 26:40 🎸 Toby Morse reflects on the intersection of punk rock and animal rights activism, highlighting the cultural significance of the movement. 28:30 🎤 Toby Morse draws parallels between the ethos of straight edge punk and early hip-hop, noting a shared focus on social consciousness. 32:10 ❄ Toby Morse discusses his journey into wellness, including cold plunges and running, inspired by peers like Rich Roll and Andrew Huberman. 34:04 💧 Investing in self-care, such as having a personal gym or sauna, can greatly improve overall well-being and happiness. 35:15 🛁 Cold plunges can have a calming effect, improve sleep quality, and offer antidepressant benefits. 36:10 🎤 Toby Morse admires Sinéad O'Connor for her punk rock attitude, authenticity, and willingness to speak her mind despite facing backlash. 38:38 🌱 Transitioning to a healthier, plant-based diet can have transformative effects, including improved digestion, energy levels, and overall well-being. 40:01 🍔 Toby Morse has been vegetarian since 1987 and emphasizes that obtaining protein and nutrients on a plant-based diet is achievable through supplements and a variety of plant-based foods. 41:12 🌿 Maintaining a healthy lifestyle while on tour is possible through proper planning, supplementation, and utilizing resources like HappyCow to find vegan-friendly options worldwide. 43:24 💊 Responsible supplementation, in addition to a balanced diet, can help address any nutritional deficiencies and optimize overall health. 44:20 🚿 Cold plunges, saunas, and other wellness practices are seen as life-changing products that contribute to overall well-being, both physically and mentally. 48:01 😔 Despite his positive disposition, Toby Morse acknowledges the challenges of maintaining optimism in today's world, especially given the negativity and division prevalent on social media. 50:47 🌍 While Toby stays informed about global issues, he focuses on spreading positivity and having meaningful conversations as a way to navigate through challenging times. 50:59 🤝 Meeting people with love, compassion, and non-judgment fosters lasting friendships. 51:39 😊 Effective communication and unconditional love are crucial in parenting, fostering confidence and openness in children. 53:41 🎓 Supporting children's education and providing a supportive home environment can alleviate financial pressures and offer them freedom to pursue their passions. 56:46 🏡 Embracing the presence of adult children at home, especially during challenging times like the pandemic, can strengthen family bonds. 58:12 🎙 Hosting a podcast can offer therapeutic benefits and facilitate deep, meaningful conversations with guests. 01:00:32 💔 Exploring unresolved traumas and seeking therapy can lead to personal growth and emotional healing, despite initial fears or reservations. 01:04:57 🎤 Podcasting provides a platform for individuals to reveal their true selves beyond public personas, fostering understanding and shifting perspectives. 01:07:15 🎙 Podcasting allows artists to control their narrative and share their true selves, unlike traditional media outlets. 01:10:00 🌟 Genuine gestures, like Travis reaching out to share a positive impact, reflect a person's character amid fame. 01:12:32 🎶 Liquid Death, a water brand, creatively turns negative comments into catchy songs, showcasing innovative marketing. 01:14:27 💧 Liquid Death's rapid growth exemplifies the power of marketing in transforming a simple product into a cultural phenomenon. 01:16:02 🌍 Touring European festivals is an enjoyable experience for bands like H2O, offering a unique performance atmosphere. 01:18:05 🏋‍♂ Embracing lifestyle practices like cold plunges and saunas can positively impact physical and mental well-being. 01:19:56 💈 Exploring personal style changes, such as growing out hair or getting tattoos, can be an exciting journey at any age.

[@Vranaanna]

Yeah,gluten messes me up too!

[@anabaez21]

#May be I’m Peter Pan… ❤

[@chrisdavies7047]

Hes a punk rocker with a family dental baseball hat on 🙂

[@dameanvil]

Who would have thought that speaking random stuff would pay better than punk concerts?

[@gxrrieri]

XXX TILL I DIE

[@levinpugsley9256]

Some people can thrive on a Vegan, Vegetarian, or Ovo-Lacto Vegetarian ( plant based sounds too cool for school, hipster, rebranded) many people, myself included when I was vegan, tend to consume lots of seed oils, which are now being deemed as some of the most unhealthy dietary products consumed

[@zenveg]

Then change it up to olive oil. Vegan still the healthiest diet possible, when done correctly.

[@juliesill8074]

Nutritional yeast is molasses

[@randygravel2057]

People who say “they’re not trying to impress anyone” are trying to impress you. Also he’s too young. Punk was dead when he was ten. He was 20 in 1990.

[@arjitsingh5989]

Man u r age as my father. You look so healthy are you having any health problems?

[@marcallain]

Rich Roll's most depressing episode. Made me sad. 😞

[@jzen1455]

Why? I thought the opposite.

[@marcallain]

@@jzen1455 Every time I hear about lasting friendships just makes sad.

[@stevebohr880]

Snowmobile boots son cheap nylon and plastic and cotton insulation just not a fashion statement!