[Street Fighter 6 Season 1] - Fireball changes in SF6

[@DenOfSin]

So my theory on why this was implemented is because in SF5 and earlier, metered fireballs felt like a thing you kinda had to do to blow up armor and win fireball wars and your reward for it was kinda... meh. You got 60 damage and a knockdown.. if even that. EX Fireballs being 2 drive bars definitely had to be something they considered when doing this priority system

[@anthonyirons1857]

I saw Guile use his lvl 2 super and throw out like 5 sonic booms and it lost to an ex fireball. I knew something must have changed in this game.

[@MansMan42069]

The booms thrown by Guile during his SA2 install are still only regular booms. SA2 only gives Guile the ability to throw multiple booms. The booms themselves are not Super tier

[@megapussi]

@@MansMan42069 What they're saying is that, sf5, each mini boom would each cancel out one hit of an ex fireball. But now, because of the priority system, an ex fireball can beat an infinite number of mini booms

[@MansMan42069]

@@megapussi Yes, but the reason he mentioned it is because he was under the assumption that SF6 minibooms were Super tier and _should have_ beaten an OD projectile.

[@simbarashetakaidza565]

@@MansMan42069 No i think they were just under the assumption that projectiles work the same way they did in V

[@Ayyem93]

I did that to a Guile with Ken during the beta and I was so pleasantly surprised

[@javierpatag3609]

Immediately Liked just for the background music choice.

[@user-wy1et9dk9w]

Nuance in zoning is actually super nice to see

[@ryo-kai8587]

Nice! I noticed this, but it's nice to have a clear and concise video to help explain the concept.

[@AToasyEngineer]

Loving your sf6 videos, but may I suggest that you have screen text linger for a bit longer? Personally I found myself having to go back because I wasn't finished reading

[@PureSangheili]

For Supers throwing multiple "Fireballs" and not an enhanced one, the ex Fireballs still win, I guess it's the case against Luke Super and Guile Super too. One ex Hadoken win against these Supers.

[@AegisKHAOS]

I want to see this tested out, but I am certain this only applies to Guile's level 2, and not Luke's level 1. Guile's is an install that allows him to throw rapid normal booms, so I get EX beating that. Not so much the case with Luke, as his level 1 is an actual super move itself, therefore EX would completely lose. I say this because I remember seeing Luke and Ryu's level 1 cancel each other out.

[@PureSangheili]

@@AegisKHAOS Yeah maybe I'm wrong for Luke. I have to see it.

[@bigredradish]

just wanna say i love the font used here, very klassic

[@lamMeTV]

"We have this very simple system! Except this rule oh and that case oh yea that doesnt work either" Welcome to fighting games!

[@papas7748]

This is such good info, I was wondering why some of the interactions I’ve had in game. Thank you!

[@Apricator]

God I wish they'd hired the composer from SF3 again to do the SF6 music

[@Cassapphic]

This makes DeeJay's multi fireball still scary but much less so.

[@TekkLuthor]

At the very least we should've gotten some sick effects for fireball clashes

[@idioticeskimoe5149]

The aesthetic of fireball fights in this game alone and how everyone has a different shaped fireball tells me that fireball wars are going to be very aesthetically pleasing.

[@ManlyFightingGames]

This is exactly how it works in KoF. SF6 is taking the best of each fighting game.

[@methanesulfonic]

what about Juri charge? can she "absorb" the fireball regardless if it's enhanced or ex?? or is it still following the same rule?

[@idioticeskimoe5149]

Juri's Fuha Stock projectiles don't act like a normal fireball. They're a low profile, slow moving projectile that passes under them. I remember this because I remember how many times I got stuffed by a fireball in the beta trying to do a setup after Super 1

[@XIVDock]

@@idioticeskimoe5149 They're not asking about Juri's projectile, they're asking about the kick special she does to build a charge/resource, which can at minimum destroy standard projectiles.

[@idioticeskimoe5149]

I never got to test that part in match tbh

[@DenOfSin]

Juri's Fuha (store) absorbs a single hit of projectiles as far as I know. I haven't touched her long enough to test EX Fuha and see if anything changes.

[@PedroFernandoPereiraBogado]

All fireballs loose to Luke’s taunt though. Right?

[@gamerbee9984]

hello there ,I have a problem with +2 and +3 close range normals in SFV people hit with one of those and just walks a little close to me and grab. My question is if there is any gaps in between those attacks or I just have to guest

[@chibinya]

SA1 gets enhanced from Denjin? I didn't know. What does it get if not more hits? What about SA2?

[@idioticeskimoe5149]

SA2 - Denjin Hashogeki gets enhanced by the charge, yes.

[@DenOfSin]

SA1 pretty much just does 400 more damage and gets a single frame more of knockdown advantage as far as I know. SA2 gets 400 more damage. SA3 gets nothing

[@chibinya]

@@DenOfSin thank you

[@DUBSDADEVILL]

Had to half the speed so i could read it.

[@voltekka47]

skill issue

[@Kasaaz]

Does SA1 still eat the enhancement charge?

[@DenOfSin]

Yeeeeeeep. Gives ya like 400 more damage.

[@Kasaaz]

@@DenOfSin Awesome. Was just trying to think of how I would have programmed those levels and modifiers for all the cancel outs etc. This all feels like a really elegant solution to keeping fireballs relevant so we don't have another SF3 too.

[@rafdes]

This great info, but maybe because it’s 6am here, but the text is going a little to fast 😢

[@1000Tomatoes]

This makes DJ's double fireball worse than I thought

[@SDSOverfiend]

Love it….

[@VenenoSX]

Kof XV doesn't work like that?

[@savagehyphen01]

I prefer the old ho system but we will see in a few month how this plays out

[@15baddays]

great video

[@dingusdangus9299]

I wonder how Juri's EX fuha store works here.

[@DenOfSin]

As far as I'm aware it's also just 1 hit. I'm gonna make an interaction video when the game launches to show how everything reacts to the various fireballs.

[@mikeyuso9231]

I watched an ex fireball from ken go thru guile super 4 sonic booms. and i about shit myself

[@DenOfSin]

Ya Max's video seems to be throwing a lot of people here to understand what the fuck just happened at the start lol

[@mikeyuso9231]

@@DenOfSin yeah that's hilarious it's so obvious everyone who saw that's eyes popped out of their head I bet

[@KungFoo1]

Good video thanks. Could be improved by adding the EX enhancement that Guile has. He can do ex blade and do ex boom through that!! It’s mad fast.

[@brian_injury]

Don't Hashogeki and Shin Hashogeki have strike property? How do they trade with fireballs?

[@baconbuster9651]

They seem to have a property that lets them clash with actual projectiles while still being strikes.

[@vzm_underscore]

think of it like juri’s store special move (qcb.k) where it is a hit but absorbing projectiles is a hardcoded decision

[@matehiqu9905]

​@@baconbuster9651 yeah, Luke's Flash Knuckle can also clash with fireballs but the timing for it is hard

[@EliosMoonElios]

Those are static projectiles with active frames so it could absorb all the hits while active.

[@DenOfSin]

@@matehiqu9905 IT CAN FUCKING WHAT?

[@ratio1037]

Stale bread

[@Rickle_Pick23]

SF7 be like If the eyebrows are furrowed you’re gonna wanna low kick as that will do more damage than straight faced

[@AirLancer]

It's not that complicated. Projectiles lose to higher types of projectiles (normal < EX < Supers). If they're the same type, than the one with more hits wins.

[@Pat315]

​@@AirLancer he was joking. We all saw the video m8, relax

[@Rickle_Pick23]

@@Pat315 lol forreal

[@Dxsmp]

Tht would be funny and interesting tho I'm not going to lie

[@yyoshman]

i thought it was like this in every game tho ? it is like this in sf3 and i think 4 so

[@DrSlouch]

no, in the other games of SF they merely trade # of hits

[@yyoshman]

@@DrSlouch yeah but this system does not change anything in terms of actual gameplay tho in pretty sure

[@jerry3115]

@@yyoshman it does, it changes a number of interactions involving fireballs. If you use an ex fireball to beat your opponent's normal fireball, you get both hits now so more damage, for example.

[@DrSlouch]

@@yyoshman in the other SF games, if you had a meterless fireball that did 2 hits, and an EX fireball that did 2 hits, they would trade hits and that would be it. In this game, the EX one will win clean without losing any hits or damage. Even a one-hit EX fireball would beat a 100-hit meterless fireball in this game.

[@yyoshman]

@@jerry3115 oh, ok i get it now thanks

[@kaleu66]

Pretty nit. Thanks for the info

[@Mammon2386]

Not New. Akuma real fireball was always a 3 Hit Ball. So you could always counter "normal" shoots.

[@user-bkey]

damn akuma is gonna be annoying

[@yoshidinono8095]

Huh?

[@liublanka3925]

No interest in gummy fighter 6. Yet they still refuse to re-release marvel vs capcom 2

[@danso_999]

Everyone's got an opinion, but I HAVE to agree that MvC2's rerelease is WAY overdue