Superman & Lois 1x12 REACTION!! "Through the Valley of Death"

[@BlindWave]

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[@the-quiver]

hello, enjoyed this episode so much

[@krisb.1565]

FYI, Kara was supposed to be in the show. But… COVID :/

[@ryancraig6675]

4:48 Supergirl episode 5x10 established surviving doppelgangers of Crisis came to Earth-Prime via wormholes which we saw.

[@acereporter73]

I swear Diggle sounded like he was ready to slap the stupid out of Gen. Lane.

[@Zevave]

I was confused of the order episode of John diggle. Now I figured it Batwomen, Superman & Lois, The flash and then Supergirl. His episode are not in chronological order.

[@dominikstasiak4247]

@@Zevave How do you know that in chronological order Batwoman was first? If we count only Batwoman, Flash and Superman, we know for sure that The Flash is happening after Batwoman (after saying that Gotham doctors found nothing) and it is the last one in order (because he gets it that he has to deal with the "glowing box"). But how do you know that it is not Superman & Lois that happened first? Am I missing something he said? In Superman & Lois, he has no headaches and he says that "glowing boxes" are in his past life. I'd assume it's the first one that happened, the second one would be Batwoman and The Flash is the third one. Obviously Legends of Tomorrow are not included in this

[@Zevave]

@@dominikstasiak4247 Some one pointed out that in the other comments on a different KZbin video. I didnt get a chance to edit it probably is Superman & Lois, Batwomen, The flash and then Supergirl.

[@doctor1431]

I am honestly so happy that there is finally a group of writers who respect and know how to write for Superman and aren't obsessed with making him interesting through turning him evil. I am so happy that this show gets Clark and is written so well.

[@apassionatenerd.3564]

This episode made me fall in love with Steel. His speech to superman was so good and the actor absolutely nailed it. This might be my favourite episode yet.

[@jomiis.]

Supes didn't get turned because of the power of family Dom Toretto would be proud

[@Sentinelfan]

Lol

[@UltimateLordMonkey]

"Zod is strong, but family is stronger" - Dom Toretto.

[@whofactchecksthefactcheckers]

"You may kneel before Zod but you stand for family" -Dom Toretto

[@gustavoclarindo101]

@@whofactchecksthefactcheckers the best😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@nicosilva8724]

You know is a good show when you get a satisfaying finale before the actual finale.

[@nicktolentino8250]

wait this wasn't the finale?

[@krisb.1565]

@@nicktolentino8250 It was the original finale until they got additional episodes for the season plus a renewal.

[@breezy3392]

@@krisb.1565 Wow the writers did a good job with that

[@maad5372]

That Superman & irons scene unexpectedly almost made me tear up

[@ageveilliw]

Loving this Superman show still!

[@jacobmitchell115]

And loving this channel. These guys are great at what they do. You can tell that they are truly passionate about it. My second favorite after the Heroes Reforged dudes.

[@chaost4544]

Holy hell.... Jonathan Kent with the Naruto speech.

[@danielenyel3542]

Maybe he got inspired from watching the Flash episode

[@josearroyo8008]

Talk no jutsu!

[@ingunebatjargal2168]

He may not have his super power but he sure hell have his talk no jutsu with the will of believe it.

[@izs6946]

Also John Irons developed some of that jutsu, but he has a lot to learn 😁

[@brandoman79]

There was originally going to be a Supergirl/ Superman and Lois Crossover Special that was planned for this season but it was cancelled due to Covid 19 Restrictions. Hopefully as Superman and Lois has been picked up for a second season Kara and Alex can make a cameo or an appearance next season. Especially because Alex and Kara can add insight and a dynamic to the Jonathan Jordan relationship. Like Jonathan and Jordan, Alex and Kara are siblings where one is super powered and the other isn't. That is a dynamic that Lois, Clark, General Lane do not understand. Sure Lois is used to being a wife and mother to super powered husband and son and Clark knows what is is like to be a husband and father to a non super powered wife and son, but neither now the struggles one has being a sibling. Alex would understand fully what Jonathan is doing through, she'd be able to pick up on any doubts, insecurities or jealously and could share her experiences. Likewise Kara would be able to share insight and guidance to Jordan in relation to his brother. She'd be able to share her doubts, insecurities and jealously she had with Alex and can share how just because Jordan is super powered and his brother is not it is ok and understandable that he too could be jealous of his brother. Again bringing Alex and Kara could help. As I would love to see Aunt Alex teach or train Jonathan and Aunt Kara could show Jordan a trick or two

[@hasan_1888]

I would be very surprised if kara shows up in s2. coz the actress wants to move away from arrowverse. She lives in different place, she is now a mother. so it will not be easy to convince her to do just a cameo.

[@Jailem]

It makes sense that this was supposed to be the first appearance of Diggle. The Supergirl break wasn't supposed to happen, so when they drew this up the plan was for this episode to happen a lot earlier.

[@Hobodeluxe960]

some good acting in this episode. especially strong was Jonathan's plea to Steel. Kudos to the writers and direction to get it right too.

[@clonedavenger]

Man I watched both Loki & Superman and Lois today. I really just have enjoyed Superman much more every week. Wole Parks as Steel is amazing and hope he gets a suit upgrade or two soon! I'd love to get a Mcfarlane line of this show down the road. This felt like the ending of the season, which it originally was. But I definitely welcome more episodes.

[@amarawinchester963]

Same here. Yesterday I watched Loki first got disappointed and then got action and heart from Superman and Lois. Yep definitely Superman and Lois is a better show.

[@barryallen6461]

Loki was amazing! It's funny people got mad because Wandavision didn't have a big cameo. Loki does and still people aren't happy..smh

[@turnthepage8980]

was just thinking about how I want I want a McFarlane line of this show!

[@cherryrosemararac5893]

I was hoping that Superman wouldn't be evil for too long. I want him to fight Edge instead of with him, although I thought it would be at least 2 episodes of evil Superman. Great episode as always.

[@tyshco2969]

He honestly didn’t seem evil. Just brainwashed.

[@izs6946]

I'm kinda over that trope anyway so I'm glad it's one and done. Unless, it's kinda like the Arkham Knight where Batsy has Joker inside him (insert lenny face) Zod would torture Superman on the inside. Which could be very interesting.

[@baddealdude807]

if Edge just became the comic book eradicator I would be so hyped

[@taimurmuggo1634]

Good episode imo. I’m surprised (but pleasantly so) that “Evil Superman” only lasted an episode though honestly , it wasn’t even really 5 minutes…I have had my fill of that archetype as of late. It was cool that his consciousness was being taken over by Zod’s…since Clark overcame it, I’m assuming Zod is gone for good which I have mixed feelings on. I like him as a character and could have been cool to see this show’s take on him but not using him in the future allows them to also use new villains aswell…plus , we already have Evil Kryptonians trying to turn Earth into their new home which tends to usually be his M.O. Anyway , I liked the conflict between Lois and John Henry this episode…both sides made sense and while it was predictable that the latter would try to reach out to Clark rather then kill him at the end..I still thought it was well done. Also , nice to see the Cushing family stronger then ever considering how broken they were at the beginning as the town tries to scapegoat Kyle and Lana for Edge’s actions.

[@krisb.1565]

Remember that it was only a copy of his consciousness. 😏

[@johnyshadow]

@@krisb.1565 What else is there? More memory crystals? Clones? Phantom Zone? (Timetravel? Different universe?)

[@retrostuff8976]

@@johnyshadow I would love to see this shows version of Brainiac if they can do it.

[@mod9399]

@@retrostuff8976 I was literally thinking this exact same thing and hopefully a good actor like James marsters in smallville to truly make the character shine

[@tonyrandall4364]

Didn't know show was back until I saw your video posted. Zod! Diggle!!!! Confirmed everything is still connected! Felt for Kyle and family. What the hell did Edge do in space? RIP Richard Donner.

[@relatedreality]

I teared up so hard when Clark called out for Jordon

[@Lord_Draco_III]

It's odd that the Eradicator and Steel were introduced just before Superman was defeated and seemingly lost, loosely mirroring the comic events of the Death of Superman storyline, from which those two characters are very prominent. It is also odd that the scientist Dabney Donovan was shown in one of the previous episodes. Dabney Donovan in the DC Universe was a geneticist that either worked for/ help founded the genetic research corporation CADMUS Labs, which was the people responsible for the creation of Kon-El/Connor Kent AKA Superboy, another prominant character from the Death of Superman storyline. The last of the Supermen is of course Hank Henshaw AKA Cyborg Superman, who we know from the Supergirl show. Put them all together and you get the Reign of the Supermen, which was the storyline set after of Death of Superman.

[@Steve302]

Every dang episode they find a way to make me tear up… family montage was so predictable but it got me though

[@davidjejna9700]

This show is definitely in my top 5 right now. It's just so friggin good.

[@ReesePlaysGamez]

I think this was supposed to be the season finale but the show got 3 more episodes.

[@amarawinchester963]

I hope the 3 episodes won’t mess it up.

[@ryancraig6675]

It was orginally going to be thirteen episodes before it got an extra two.

[@roryotoole3279]

This show is such a great surprise every week! My fav scene was when Jordan heard his father and looked up smiling. That hit me. It was great to see him smiling a lot. Where is this Earth's John Henry? What is his connection with Lex? Could.SuperZodman have also gone through the portal?

[@zvivizt]

I love that scene with Jordan too, he is learning about his powers and he feels really good when he manages to control them

[@nathanhills336]

It was confirmed that this Earth’s John Henry died in action during his time with the army. That was in the episode when he was revealed to be John Henry :)

[@roryotoole3279]

@@nathanhills336 thanks

[@martinacosta3821]

I actually like the general, he has to think about the world first, Lois was thinking as a wife and mother in her belive, but he doesnt has that luxury so i dont blame him for having weapons and trying to kill him

[@darcrequiem]

I think Lois finally understands that.

[@shalomjonas1179]

I hate to be the one to do this but it's "have"

[@martinacosta3821]

@@shalomjonas1179 i dont mind, thanks, tho i just check in a grammar corrector and it didnt tell me nothing.

[@shalomjonas1179]

@@martinacosta3821 ohk 😅

[@brady3319]

@@martinacosta3821 "doesn't have that luxury" instead of " doesn't has that luxury"

[@themamome]

Is it just me or is the sonic boom that Superman creates like the humming of the Tardis. It brings hope to everyone who hears it. At least that is what I got from the scene were he returns to the farm.

[@whosmansisthis6624]

Yea I'm sure that's where they're going. Like the bank robbery scene showing people look out to see him fly off.

[@ArmFallOffBoii]

John Henry Irons looking like Master Chief with a hammer. I love it.

[@callydavis3071]

Jonathan was clutch this episode!

[@galonski64]

Man so good. I cant wait to see where we go next

[@cinnabonbons]

i do hope we get to see Kara here eventually in this show if only because i want to see these superior writers write for her. i imagine they could give us some quality character stuff with her and clark.

[@Pongus_420]

I'd love to see them interact ONCE and not have Clark tell her she's better than him in every way a thousand times

[@UKpowerunleashed]

Like Loki said to Dr.Strange in Ragnorok- "I HAVE BEEN FALLING FOR 20 MINUTES!" I have been waiting for YEARS! Jhon Diggles... put the ring on already!

[@galonski64]

I swear the red energy thing, looks like Crisis stuff, lol

[@adaurysantos]

It is

[@jheddyy]

It is

[@thanos6635]

Lol...you didnt include any of the Kyle, Sarah & Lana scene...they were so wholesome in this episode, i love it.

[@grapeleiva2266]

Same I loved it

[@Ex1toverhere]

It was definitely very wholesome and fun, I personally just didn't really think it fit this episode for the same reasons Blind Wave mentioned, tone and such. Personally I would have had this episode completely devoted to the serious aspects, then next episode include the Cushing stuff since Evil Clark is wrapped.

[@galonski64]

It's shame. But it a reward for the patron people

[@Deception975]

@@Ex1toverhere It felt too good to be true though. I think Kyle did give in. So, he wasn't effected like the others were.

[@ViniciusCadaval]

Jon. Doppelgangers, other worlds, "GLOWING BOXES"

[@2383Scorpio]

Morgan Edge or Tal-Roh has become the Eradicator and he should wear the goggle to use for more power of the x-ray vision.

[@sofiyanali2489]

I really wanna see a show with Diggle and Irons. John and John, defending the universe as Green Lantern and Steel!

[@evanmagura2296]

Excited to see Blind Wave’s reaction to the Titans season 3 trailer

[@apassionatenerd.3564]

Okay, this show has some great effects, but that little tap at 9:58 looked hilarious lol

[@babikirftw3732]

Didn’t he say in an earlier episode that even a tap from the hammer is like getting hit by a truck or something?

[@apassionatenerd.3564]

@@NoName1462 And all that big build up made that little tap even funnier to me lol

[@DXStriker]

This show is sooooo good. It always makes me forget that it's a CW Show with its production and Storylines compared to other CW Shows lol

[@ryancraig6675]

35:00 It's not a matter of WB thinking fans won't know the difference between the tv versions. *It's that they're worried that general audiences will get so invested in the TV versions that they'll be no interest in the movie versions ergo less box office money for them* .

[@ryancraig6675]

17:20 Apparently the chronological order of Diggle's appearances are Superman & Lois, then Batwoman, then Flash, and later Supergirl.

[@octaviodeleon1778]

I love the fact they are on Earth Prime. Hopefully they will mention Supergirl before season's end.

[@ZealStarMedia]

A cameo would be nice, so we can get her interaction with Jordan and Jonathon.

[@ayushman3359]

This show should not go further than just mentioning or giving a cameo to the other Arrowverse characters as that would ruin my decade because of how bad those shows were.

[@209sMichaelJ]

The last 2 episodes feel like they could have been season finales

[@ShadowArtist]

Morgan Edge merged with the Eradicator device.. so he is now *The Eradicator*

[@ZealStarMedia]

That’s probably what the blue eyes meant, so he has powers that aren’t negated by Kryptonite and Red Sun Radiation.

[@airmann4673]

I think he zod now or doomsday

[@TheOTA101]

lol Aaron trying to rationalise and defend someone throwing a rock through a house window

[@callydavis3071]

Dude! My Drunk ass hasss been waiting for this reaction!

[@tauhid9983]

so basically dig rejected the box, and the fact that he rejected the glowing box pissed a couple of ppl off....and hence the headaches.... I hope in the supergirl eps, we see him as the main plot.

[@darcrequiem]

I think Edge may be the Eradicator now. Could be wrong though.

[@turnthepage8980]

correct

[@2383Scorpio]

In the past, Irons drove through the Red Sun, then the Anti-Matter from the Crisis event sent him to Earth Prime.

[@ryancraig6675]

A Red Sun is nowhere near Earth lol

[@2383Scorpio]

@@ryancraig6675 maybe a combination of red sun and anti-matter could cause the multiverse portal.

[@ryancraig6675]

@@2383Scorpio So you can't read? *No red sun was involved*

[@ReesePlaysGamez]

People knew Diggle was going to be in the arrowverse shows because of promos for episodes that play on cable television after the episodes.

[@nicolaskaito4769]

OMG Aaron got teary. This is rare and this episode was amazing as always...

[@bannanaman0406]

So I thought that John Henry came to this earth because his earth got destroyed from the cross over episode so I think that's what the red stuff is space was his earth getting destroyed

[@DjB8709]

I wanna know how cw made a show so God damn good. This is one of the best shows of this year. The writing, the music, the cinematography, the acting, the story. Everything is so good.

[@nathanhills336]

Well, it’s official. Superman and Lois is still in the Arrowverse and I am so incredibly happy.

[@SDavid3388]

Lara never was with Edge's father their DNA was just mixed together.

[@secretagenttau2233]

It's such a good show

[@flaggerify]

How is this show not part of the Arrowverse if Diggle is in it?

[@Slade_The_Deathstroke]

Damn. No, "Kneel before Zod"

[@breezy3392]

I don't think Dark Superman from John Henry's world was Zod. Zod is always a major egomaniac. If it was him, he would have worn his own symbol and made his name known so that everyone would "Kneel Before Zod". John Henry only knows him as Kal-El

[@josearroyo8008]

So is Morgan Edge now the Eradicator like in the comics?

[@myyklmax]

All those Kryptonian criminals are now all inside Morgan Edge.. He is now Zod.

[@ryancraig6675]

he's not especially based on the previews

[@willparks3429]

The other world Clark got cheated on by Lana, so was pissed

[@LitoLarj]

There's only one eradicator boys it's the same one that Clark had when he fell at the door of the fortress after his flare edge got it from him while he was knocked out and using that device to see into his memories it's the same eradicator there's no good one or bad one it's only one

[@theawesomeman9821]

If DC heroes were Pokemon: Superman Type: Steel Ability: No Guard-Attacks always land on targets. Move Set: Meteor Bash (Steel), Hyper Beam (Normal), Super Power (Fighting), and Fly (Flying). Batman Type: Dark/Normal Ability: Disguise-Substitute takes damage for the first attack. Move Set: Sucker Punch (Dark), Mega Kick (Normal), Anchor Shot (Steel), and Shadow Sneak (Ghost). Wonder Woman Type: Fighting Ability: Justified-Attacks powers up when hit with Dark attacks. Move Set: Double Kick (Fighting), Close Combat Fighting, String Shot (Bug), and Attract (Normal). Aqua Man Type: Water Ability: Swim-Water moves powers up in rainy weather. Move Set: Drill Peck (Flying), Attack Order (Bug), Flip Turn (Water), and Leer (Normal). Flash Type: Electric Ability: Reboost-Speed increases with every turn. Move Set: Electric Charge (Electric), Quick Attack (Normal), Swift (Normal), and Charge (Electric). Cyborg Type: Steel Ability: Thick Skin-Damage taken by super effective moves are reduced. Move Set: Meteor Bash (Steel), Shift Gear (Steel), Steel Beam (Steal), and Dynamic Punch (Fighting).

[@aidenray6214]

Make Wonder Woman Fighting /Fairy and Aquaman Water/Psychic

[@theawesomeman9821]

@@aidenray6214 I cannot think of a move that would make Aquaman a Psychic Type but I'll make Wonder Woman a Fairy Type with the Fairy Moves Play Rough and Craft Shield.

[@aidenray6214]

@@theawesomeman9821 Aquaman's call to the ocean creatures like a call assist.

[@theawesomeman9821]

@@aidenray6214 that's a psychic move?

[@aidenray6214]

@@theawesomeman9821 pertains to the psyche does it not? That is what it used to be pre-crisis atleast. There was one issue post Flashpoint which said that he encodes the water apparently with his mind and the water itself carries it to the sea creatures. That is a little psychic.Also, this was just a suggestion, feel free to NOT include it if u want.

[@ClamantFever458]

“ladies and gentlemen, we got em” - Erin 2021

[@ProfessorZoom_]

Who’s Erin?

[@ClamantFever458]

@@ProfessorZoom_ Aaron* excuse me

[@alvinodion8575]

What if the evil superman comes to this earth and they have to fight him next season

[@amon__7187]

On another note, what happened to the Rick and morty episode? It was removed and hasn't returned

[@gar55rocks1]

I really liked this episode but the ending felt super rushed. From Superman breaking free to them taking out Morgan Edge it all just felt like it wrapped up so quickly

[@latertheidiot]

Superman had Harry and Voldemort thing.

[@danielledesma9938]

How do you guys watch the episode without any ad breaks ?

[@StephOMacRules]

Are there now two Fortresses of Solitude, Kara's and Clark's?

[@Doco160]

Think we just see different parts of Clark's in both shows. But yeah the difference between the two shows fortresses always irked me a little.

[@sebastiandaniels3244]

I headcanon that Kara's is in the Arctic, and Clark's is in the Antarctic, or vice versa

[@galonski64]

Crisis is your answer

[@CaptainScarLeg]

@@galonski64 Crisis would be the answer... Except they've shown the old fortress again in Supergirl after Crisis. So it's either two different fortresses or different parts of the same one. Kara has always called it THE Fortress of Solitude so logically it has to be the same one, it's just so visually different it's hard to believe.

[@2323stickboy]

It's two different art directors' interpretations of the same thing. It's really no different than two comic book artists drawing the same thing and having wildly different takes.

[@scottkendall8323]

Diggle didn't have to show up for people to know that this show is in the Arrowverse. I mean it's the same Superman and Lois Lane that were in Supergirl, and the Crossovers with all the other shows. To me, it's kinda stupid and knuckleheaded, to think that this show isn't connected to the arrowverse.

[@kazinadbiralamadit6905]

Yeah but at the same time due to Covid most of the first season was written as a standalone 1st season. So this cameo was done deliberately by Berlanti & Helbing to establish that yes this takes place within the Arrowverse.

[@Hobodeluxe960]

that "family fun" scene felt so out of place in this episode. I agree it was mis-placed and should have happened at the end of the episode maybe?

[@PLBiohazard]

My thoughts exactly 🤔 It even could have not existed at all, the message and intention would have been the same, thanks to the breakfast scene.

[@zvivizt]

They would be tortured by Smallville people for another episode and then maybe we could accept that family fun scene

[@fakudan]

Disappointed af that Diggle didn't became Green Lantern.

[@charltonsteenkamp2761]

i miss arrow 😔

[@vincentdouglas9835]

zod never got to say the line pf kneel before zod i was waiting the entire episode for it

[@SomeGuyCalledJack]

This Diggle appearance confused me. I love that he's doing the rounds on the arrowverse shows and popping up everywhere, but I thought there was like a 16 year time jump between normal arrowverse and this? Hence the teenage sons?

[@yoshidracos.a.1125]

Nope. Clark had a son by 2019 in the original multiverse. After Crisis, that whole history was rewritten, so he married Lois and had his children way earlier.

[@TruthSeeker23099]

They almost had 2 rename the show…zod & Lois lol

[@Vipre-]

Man I WISH I could find my old comment because I completely called the details of John's face turn.

[@scar1143]

So Diggle is just a courier here?😅

[@PLBiohazard]

While I enjoy having Diggle on screen, his appearances are basically what happened repeatedly during the Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover : fan-service, the useless and pointless kind. And I really would have loved if Superman & Lois was COMPLETELY 100% separate from all the Arrow-verse. But alas, it's not because... reasons ??? In this episode, Diggle could have been replaced with another character (famous or not) and we wouldn't even have noticed any difference.

[@TheCkent100]

Personally I think they could have put the entire Cushing drama with the formerly converted townspeople in a later episode and dedicated that time to a more prolonged battle, both the internal battle Superman had with Zod and the later "battle" with Edge. I thought those two confrontations were just over too quickly. On another note...I wanted to thank both of you...I just completed your entire playlist of "Marvel: Agents of Shield" reactions. Really excellent insights, opinions, predictions and discussion there. Thank you for doing such a great job to all involved. I thoroughly enjoyed that. And by the way, congrats to Eric and Aaron on becoming Agents yourselves. Those videos before the series finale were great!

[@MrPancak3Man]

I really wanted to see supergirl

[@Dancingqween3]

I get it for the sake of the drama they had to give the one twin powers.. but man i wish the other one had them.. 🤦🏾‍♀️🤧 he is more mature

[@eirei0789]

tbh I prefer if this series is more standalone and did not have any appearances from the Arrowverse. Not that it would remedy the inherent problem of "why are they not contacting all the other heroes every time there is a serious crisis ie every season finale", but you're more able to take the show completely on its own and not think about any discrepancies (blue vs red eye laser etc). With this appearance from Diggle, it feels like a floodgate has been opened, and now the show would come under heavier scrutiny with the contrivances and discrepancies as its apparently confirmed that it is in the Arrowverse and the other heroes were all present. Diggle's appearance didn't seem to have any significant relevance to the plot, which leads me to think it was an add on to the script that was not relevant to the plot. He had great scene paying homage to the other shows, but I'm not sure if it's worth opening that floodgate.

[@ras_alhim]

Originally, there was supposed to be a crossover between this show and Batwoman, but they had to cancel it because of the pandemic. Diggle didn't open a floodgate, he is the only thing they could do. So yes, expect more bigger crossovers in the future.

[@eirei0789]

@@ras_alhim I heard it was with Supergirl? Anyway, probably for the better that 'that' crossover was cancelled. My point stands. As the show now confirms it's setting as the arrowverse with the presence of all the other heroes, it lost some of its stakes knowing that there are other heroes running around and the characters are just being stupid for not contacting them like with Superman's ELT's (or in fact, the other characters not using an ELT's).

[@ras_alhim]

@@eirei0789 Why is everybody only complaining about this in S&L? Why is Barry only calling Flash characters to help with Godspeed? Why didn't the Legends call for more help to find Sara? Or Batwoman when Gotham was purged? It's just comic book/show/movie logic. Even the Avengers don't call their teammates all the time, there wouldn't be solo adventures anymore.

[@eirei0789]

@@ras_alhim Did I specifically say in my post that I did not have the same criticism with those instances? I thought my original post implied that I did. I just personally cared more about S&L to bother with posting my thoughts on it. Also. I don't care if all the other shows do it and "get away with it". It's still a problem to the narrative and the stakes.

[@renz5960]

@@eirei0789 it is not a problem when it is a comic book story, they did all the time in DC and MARVEL

[@DarthDarrik]

I just feel every time there’s a Cushing family segment that it’s keeping me from watching the Kent’s who I’m here to see.

[@alissonalexandre1106]

Brasileiros no Blind Wave além de mim??

[@annettemcgreevy1258]

wow

[@morgand.3809]

I think this show is so ridiculously superior to all other Arrowverse shows in all aspects, it truly feels like it belongs in a different universe. I don't want the connection to bring it down. Also, I convinced other people who deeply dislike the Arrowverse to give this one a chance, and they all responded positively. I hope they don't think I tricked them or anything. I was (still am) really hoping that any crossovers would be minimum.

[@TheLibrarianOG1]

There are too many Johns in the DC Universe

[@sonario6489]

Every Nora in existence: Am I a joke to you?

[@JBWinter]

Just wait til you see how common it is IRL 😂

[@TheLibrarianOG1]

@@JBWinter 😂😂😂😂

[@junnsahara9716]

i dont understand , are flash, batwoman and superman is in the same time or different time? Since Jonathan and yordan has already maybe 14 or 15 years old.

[@newt1110]

Due to COVID the current Arrowverse timeline is VERY messy, but S&L, Arrow, The Flash, Constantine, Supergirl, Legends, Black Lightning, and BatWoman all take/took place on Earth-Prime now, due to Crisis Lois and Clark married and had Jonathan (Also instead of having one son they have two, Jordan) a little over a decade earlier. S&L is still on Earth-Prime taking place (at least the Pilot) in Fall 2020.

[@Kyojironaxx]

Hopefully there will be no crossover with supersjw.

[@renz5960]

There would be sooner or later, they need Lex Luthor and Supergirl is a big part of the lore especially if they gonna make a Brainiac Arc.

[@stevenedwards4802]

Best Arrowverse show. Best written and acted. And it doesn't have the ridiculous silliness the others have. This one is believable. The family is believable. Compared to Barry and Iris. Iris constant whispering of lines when talking to Barry is annoying. Barry’s constant whining about Iris. Clark and Lois have chemistry. The entire family has chemistry. Even Lana’s family has great chemistry. I’m glad this show doesn’t have a Chester/Cisco or Brainy for comic relief. This show has some good funny parts but not over done.

[@Phoenix-RL]

I am really disappointed how they have handled this Diggle arc. I really hope that is what will be the focus of the 5 episode crossover for next season of the flash

[@comickid05]

The episodes were out of order in supergirl he should possibly get more with the ring

[@LtCatscratch]

This ep was the weakest for me. Why go after when there's a more powerful krytonian than Superman ? Why not lure superman somewhere else and deal with morgan edge first with that uber anti kryptonian tech of Irons'. The constant "we have to kill him" vs "no we can't" discussion wore me down.

[@ZenkaXIV]

👍👍👍

[@Ovan61]

👍📺👀

[@piper998877]

The exclusion of Kara is getting stranger and conspicuous. Why not scream for Kara rather than Jordan?

[@sapphiredragon8149]

It’s just good plot wise. Also this is a Superman show that primarily focuses on Superman and the people in his life.

[@Doco160]

This apparently is all taking place while Kara is stuck in the phantom zone, but that gets harder and harder to believe xD

[@Laurica-lb6nv]

Why would he yell for Kara ? Wouldn’t she be like the last thing on his mind ?😭

[@DayvonR64]

@@sapphiredragon8149 Wouldn't his cousin who he did a lot for when she landed on Earth be someone in his life?

[@Doco160]

ALTHOUGH if Dig shows up for his Supergirl appearance early when it returns in August, it would make more sense considering she's only just escaped the phantom zone

[@dembones5005]

Pacing in this show is wacky. This arc has been going on for 12 episodes yet at the same time every new thing introduced is resolved in two. Superman turning back before actually doing anything 'bad' while fighting brainwashing is both nice (how could the world trust him again if he burned down a city, even while mind controlled, for example) and sort of... anti-climatic. I guess I'm programmed to expect the cliche 'fighting the military, blowing things up without somehow killing lots of people, Lois or one of his kids steps in the way and say a few words and then he fights it off' thing

[@stgeordie2638]

Worst episode yet for me, sfx looked off (especially the flying scenes) and it was a bit too easy

[@jakubgodyn7413]

They should recast Jimmy if they want to bring him back. He could still be black. I don't have a problem with that, but he should be smaller and less "heroic". More comic accurate.

[@AnonymouslyForgotten]

This show shows the cw that you don't need to spend 30 minutes, full of filler, and shitty visuals, to make a fight interesting.