Superman & Lois: The Ultimate Superman Adaptation

[@12Chris6]

Having John Henry Irons be called Captain Luthor in the beginning was genius. It threw all of us off the trail of who he could actually be. The reveal was definitely an OMG moment.

[@Christian_Ada1]

They practically copied Supergirl season 1 with Martian manhunter

[@nickalt7369]

@@Christian_Ada1 but they did a better job at it

[@Christian_Ada1]

@@nickalt7369 No they didn't. In your delusional mind they did It's called Hypocrisy. Learn it so you don't come off like one again in the future

[@Christian_Ada1]

@Mostaverse They pulled The Suicide Squad from theaters in just 7 days

[@nickalt7369]

@@Christian_Ada1 bruh wdym kid, supergirl sucked as much as all of the cw shows did

[@hannahlong1802]

It’s great that they included Lana Lang without forcing a love triangle.

[@Abominatrix650]

Yes. I like that they could be mature adults, not shackled by teenage puppy love and are capable of being more than content with the partners they have

[@randomknowledgeperson2872]

absolutely, superman should never be written as a love triangle because it’s always him and lois and we all know that. so making something like that would be a mistake because we already know how it ends

[@qgxyreverse9886]

Lana Lois Lane Superman 3 unless maybe one comment is right Drunk self VS True self Evil Superman is much better when Joker kill Lois Lane and Batman try to help him . Aquaman also fight him self in Injustice God Among Us but I think that story fix better for Aquaman and his own world experience . Evil Superman / Fake Superman the other other part , is over use just don’t blame Knightmare part that part have a interesting stories .

[@OfficialEdwardNewgate]

@@qgxyreverse9886 what

[@thatoneguy-jk6ts]

@@qgxyreverse9886huh??

[@brofiss352]

This show is actually Legitimately A Great show

[@miyadeen2978]

Agree

[@Mirrorcomics24]

@@miyadeen2978 stop spamming the comments toxic little kid

[@miyadeen2978]

@@Mirrorcomics24 I am not you are

[@Mirrorcomics24]

@@miyadeen2978 except you are

[@dakotatrue12]

@@Mirrorcomics24 bro you are spamming the comments not him, Jesus fucking Christ. He's not being toxic you are, give it up. Whatever he did he said sorry and you keep attacking him in every single thread on this video.

[@CyGea]

I don't see Jonathan's kindness as "unrealistic." He actually reminds me of my oldest nephew, and I see Jonathan's behavior as very realistic.

[@nicholashodges201]

Those people are getting rare, especially people genuinely like that. So it's getting hard to believe

[@CyGea]

@@nicholashodges201 Just like there will always be people filled with hate. There will always be people full of kindness. I meet both, almost every day.

[@hasan_1888]

@@nicholashodges201 it depends on the writers. If this was pure CW, Jonathan would have hated jordan lol

[@SarahSharpe1231]

@@hasan_1888 What is legitimately SO AMAZING is that even when DO they fight like normal brothers....at the end of the day, they're family. And they're there for each other. And that love TRULY trumps everything!!! (I think it also definitely helps that--aside from one of them having powers--they're the only people on planet who know what the other is going through. Like they are in a VERY unique situation and they literally do rely on each other to get through the day! The show honestly wouldn't work if it was just one of them.) I mean, down the line, I can see an outside force SOMEHOW pitting them against each other.....but as of now, their relationship is one of the most REFRESHING sibling relationships I've EVER seen on television!!!!

[@hasan_1888]

@@SarahSharpe1231 Yes. exactly. I have not seen a sibling relationships like this in a long time. and its not just them, even other characters like kyle-lana who i did not care for, i like them so much. If the characters are written in a way that they behave like mature strong family, fans/viewers will love the show even the plot is weak. Thats whats been missing from other arrowverse shows. Arrow/Flash both suffered coz in each season, there was was always 1 or 2 main characters written unlikable. not the case with superman and lois s1.

[@alesenatorephoto]

This show proves wrong all the people that say superman should be darker and edgier or he becomes boring. This superman IS the classic superman from the comics and he is still fucking badass and absolutely relatable.

[@hasan_1888]

those people are idiots. That scene where his eyes turn red " STAND DOWN". Thats how you do superman darker.

[@madtitan0825]

Exactly, there’s nothing wrong with making Superman the nicest and most righteous dude

[@Fenris30]

What the hell is so Dark about Snyder's Superman? What do you consider to be Dark? All the dude ever tried to do is help in a world that doesn't automatically give him the benefit of the doubt. You guys know damn well Superman would get savaged in the media by the right wing because he wouldn't fit their agenda.

[@madtitan0825]

@@Fenris30 Superman does not give af about humanity cuz he sees himself above them in this universe, Snyder and the writers write him like Dr Manhattan is a big mistake, sure seen his struggle in youth is good but other than that there’s nothing to sympathize about this version of Superman

[@Fenris30]

@@madtitan0825 What movie are you watching cause that's not the ones I watched.

[@brofiss352]

The budget is super important for a show that emphasizes CGI and Cinematography. This show has perfected it

[@miyadeen2978]

Exactly

[@Mirrorcomics24]

@@miyadeen2978 except this budget is the worst part

[@dakotatrue12]

@@Mirrorcomics24 what?

[@thetypingavocado574]

i hope that the budget gets abit higher, so they can clean up that cgi

[@nicholashodges201]

I don't think it the budget as much how they use it. They're much better at hiding the iffier fx and because of the nature of Superman's powers many thing are easier to do in practical w cgi enhancement, like normal flying or feats of strength. That the one thing I'll give Supergirl, it generally did have slightly better fx than Flash for some of the same reasons. They just weren't near as good at it as the S&L crew

[@capn_toad]

as soon as Clark said "thanks! my mom made it for me! 🥰" I knew he would be my favorite superman

[@thatoneguy-jk6ts]

Same bro!!!

[@CyGea]

Cinematography and special effects aside. All the other CW shows really need, is Superman and Lois' level of writing.

[@disposable_hero1725]

The problem is, WB TV oversee the writing of the show not CW.

[@yousefalmudhaf4083]

@@disposable_hero1725 that’s not the problem that’s the reason it’s succeeding same as stargirl

[@noblesseoblige319]

And directing. A great script and great actors help, but it's wasted without good directing with a good vision. The other cw shows honestly seem like everyone gets the script and written directions on the scenes and they just kinda go from there. Arrow specifically seems like the director calls in their shots most of the time, and the few times other people direct it is VERY obvious (James Bamford, for example). Damn near night and day

[@edkwon]

You also nailed it with the relationship between Clark and Lois, in this show they are actually portrayed as goddamn mature adults in an actual healthy relationship who know how to communicate and respect each other. My mind is blown 🤔😆

[@elijahabraham569]

I think some of the reasons why some people aren’t watching it are because of the cw, dc I’m general, and the Snyder only people. Tyler Hoechlin is my favorite live action Superman. More people should watch this

[@coledavin1016]

I’m a Snyder guy but to be honest this is the most accurate representation of Superman we’ve had. Although I still do enjoy Henry Cavill as Superman.

[@evanvaughn4295]

Another reason imo is the weird release schedule. They keep taking all these little breaks throughout the season and it's killed a lot of the hype and momentum they had early on. We know they're already doing a second season so I only hope they avoid doing this next year.

[@Wade_N]

Honestly, when I first heard about it I didn't care for it due to how badly CW DC shows have disappointed me (especially Supergirl, genuinely hope Melissa Benoist gets another opportunity to potray Supergirl in a much better show). I’m actually so glad I decided to try watching it.

[@Wade_N]

@@evanvaughn4295 I think they probably take breaks due to covid things. But the US seems to be doing substantially better so yeah hopefully the schedule is more consistent.

[@CyGea]

"We've never seen Lois as a mother." Damn man, way to throw shade at Superman Returns.

[@nicholashodges201]

IDK why that movie gets so much hate. Routh is a great Superman

[@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ]

@@nicholashodges201 Probably because it's a rehash of the 70s superman most people had grown out of

[@nicholashodges201]

@@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ you say that, yet every more "modern version" belly flops. Every successful iteration of that character has essentially just a reskin of Christopher Reeves, who in turn was mostly a skinnier reskin of George Reaves. So you can take that "but muh old shit" and choke on it. Edgy ass "modernized takes" don't work because pinheads who need everything updated don't actually have the capacity to understand ANY fictional character well enough to write something for anyone who's actually literate.

[@elijahlee3610]

@@nicholashodges201 Smallville didn't reiterate reeve and it succeeded, neither did cavil and he's grown in popularity over the years.

[@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ]

@@nicholashodges201 That's not true though Man of steel was very successful in spite of some boomers whining in the back of the room. Same goes for ZSJL. Both had a modern iteration of Superman And Superman and Lois found huge success by combining elements of classic comic book superman and Cavill's modernized take

[@diegojimenezaguado5421]

Shows like Stargirl, Superman&Lois and early seasons of The Flash and Arrow prove that the CW CAN make amazing superhero shows. They just need to get their heads out of their butts. And less episodes per season.

[@miyadeen2978]

Exactly

[@Mirrorcomics24]

@@miyadeen2978 toxic

[@ckicgi6154]

Well not amazing, daredevil is amazing, but decent the cw shows whether they are ok, bad or terrible are carried 100% percent by actors cause action is always bad at best and the writing is the bare minimum at best, when a scene is good (rarely but it happens) it's because of the actors on screen, not the writing

[@miyadeen2978]

@@Mirrorcomics24 go away

[@Mirrorcomics24]

@@miyadeen2978 you started it

[@tricerosefrosty]

Honestly Tyler is my favorite live action Clark Kent and Superman

[@giovannigiovanni.7220]

He's still not good.

[@poelewis6034]

Yeah I agree despite what haters say tho I'm at a crossroads between him and Henry cavil

[@blackoutemzz2674]

He's my favourite superman, Tyler is the best of all time.

[@poelewis6034]

@@blackoutemzz2674 i mean I can't blame you for it he's better then I thought he'd be as superman

[@blackoutemzz2674]

@@poelewis6034 Yeah honestly comparing him to Supergirl and now. The difference is crazy.

[@lymabeanz]

the show is very underrated and needs more exposure. it hasnt gotten alot of promotion and alot of people are turned off by it cause its a CW show. S&L has to always defend themselves from the snyder fans and supergirl fans that are putting it down. why cant we just accept them all and all support one another rather than choose sides

[@azarelzaleta7619]

I love Cavill's Superman and i legit think he has been done dirty by the scripts he has to work with. But Tyler Hoechlin is on a whole other level, he's practically the comics Superman

[@vietnameeseguy]

Because you’re not accepting Snyder and keep comparing everything Superman to Snyder’s Superman. You guys still aren’t supportive of one and another and blame the “toxic” Snyder fans😂

[@miksobrado]

@@vietnameeseguy No. You showing Up everywhere to critice us for not liking snyder. Shut up

[@Fenris30]

@@vietnameeseguy Facts.

[@roberthoward2745]

This is the live action Superman that, as a lifelong fan, I've been waiting for.

[@JcgLounge]

Saying that the Flash looks like an early 2000s Power Rangers show is an insult to the PR seasons that came from that era. At least Rangers worked with what they had back then. The Flash has been on for 7 seasons and yet the budget still feels like it needs improvement.

[@jeremymorris345]

Agreed

[@charlesdyttv4978]

Now u pushing it

[@SevenZeroEleven]

He isnt like actually insulting it if you look at it. He's actually making it look better by saying that, Power Rangers in the year 2000 was able to do what the flash is doing now like that's basically him saying Power Rangers was better cause they were able to produce the same content with way more restrictions and less advanced tech

[@nickalt7369]

@@charlesdyttv4978 no hes not

[@nickalt7369]

@@charlesdyttv4978 with cw shows nothing is too far

[@luiscalzoncit2820]

I'm probably the *only* person that *does not* want Jonathan to have powers. I want him to still have that conection with Lois, a human between all this chaos and supernatural events. I want his power to be his compassion, his intelligence and his maturity. Jordan and Jonathan in a sense, mirror the relationship between Clark and Lois, where Clark/Jordan struggling to balance their power and responsabilities with their human life and Lois/Jonathan continously proving their value and importance to the story and the heroes. Both relatioships are loving, mature and balanced. I know people thinks Jon deserves powers, but I actually think that would be a disservice to his character and his arc.

[@drserr6581]

I agree 100%

[@livingarrows]

I wasn't going to watch Superman & Lois, but I saw a review on episode 11 and went and watched that episode after hearing such great things. It instantly hooked me. I've watched every episode now and I am in agreement with you - this Lois and Clark is the best interpretation we've had in live-action so far. Tyler (especially, because to me he's been the biggest and best surprise with how he's just embodied Clark Kent and Superman so perfectly) and Bitsie are knocking it out of the park. I'm really excited for the rest of the season and season 2. Hopefully the show has a few years in it, and can maintain the high quality.

[@Cinema-j1j]

Honestly this show is doing what the flash did during S1 and S2 . Stay Comic Accurate but also put a new twist on things. Also it shows that sometimes it’s okay to take ur time and lesson to fans , also Superman and Lois have accomplished understanding the character because the writers probably read the comics and understood what Superman is supposed to be , Who Clark Kent is . The Flash had sense of this but then lost it once Eric Wallace joined the boat . All we need is someone who cares about the character

[@dalou61]

Na na not even the first 2 seasons of flash was as good as superman and lois

[@sanjithvijay5323]

@@dalou61 nah flash s1-2 was absolute peak 😭

[@JoelMiller431]

I will never understand why the rest of the Arrowverse shows are not getting this level of quality

[@miyadeen2978]

Because the writers don’t care for the fans

[@Mirrorcomics24]

@@miyadeen2978 they do care, don’t undermine them they put effort in, it’s just not good

[@dakotatrue12]

@@Mirrorcomics24 I have no doubt that that bum Eric Wallace has put zero effort into the Flash, ever since he joined as the head writer and I believe show runner, the show has gone down so much in quality. The Arrow writers were trying but the show still dropped in quality, however it ended on a good note. Supergirl is ok, I don't know who the writers are and I haven't watched the show in a while but it's ending so I don't care. I've watched maybe the first few minutes of Batwoman and nothing else. I don't care if that show is garbage or not because the trailers were a complete turnoff. Legends works because it's weird, but it's still dropped in quality. In fact, one of my favorite seasons of the Arrowverse is legends season 2. I remember it was so damn good. It's sad tbh remembering the good memories of these shows and how good they used to be. Most of them have turned into shit and if they aren't shit yet, they're getting there. Superman and Lois is a breath of fresh air. At this rate the only good CW shows are gonna be this and Stargirl.

[@Spidey-oi5sn]

Because CW doesn't give a fuck about their audience, they just follow the shitty fangirls and SJWs on Twitter and nothing else

[@Ukaran]

Stargirl is. 🙁

[@TevyaSmolka]

I love this show and I am so happy Superman and Lois is doing everything I ever wanted especially as a huge fan of the superman rebirth series from peter j tomasi and Patrick Gleason this show is doing everything fantastic which I approve. :)

[@mco2l739]

This is such a good show. Really surprised me. Tyler, Bitsie and the rest of the cast are really good. The writing so far on this show has been great and characters aren't one-note, they are being fully fleshed out. While S&L looks great visually it is the writing and the acting that's making it stand out, I watch a lot of shows and I can accept the visuals not being great due to cost etc but when the characters and writing are bad, I'm out. Thankfully, this show so far is keeping me hooked.

[@umarssoccerhighlights2033]

Petition for cw’s the flash to get this treatment of writing and cgi.

[@infiniteearthclips2723]

Me I’ll sign that shi

[@featherguardian6023]

By far the best CW DC shows of all time,as long as it doesn't become a cash cow,but it is unavoidable.

[@2013venjix]

Superman is already a cash cow. So don't hold your breath.

[@featherguardian6023]

@@2013venjix Every characters in DC comics is a cash cow,I'm aware of it,but I'm referring to the fact that when CW does too many seasons and runs out of ideas and ruins alot of characters that creates plot holes and awful explanations that it's rushed that turns it into a horrendous series like the intired Arrowverse.

[@2013venjix]

@@featherguardian6023 and yet they're still on the air.

[@featherguardian6023]

@@2013venjix All thanks to CW and WB for treating it like a money item instead of focusing on characters and story that makes me feel sick and disgusting on watching their own personal garbage.

[@ivanagustinortiz5237]

Lets hope Eric Wallace doesn't touch any script of this show, then if they keep the creative team for a few more seasons that's it, they might get to the best Arrowverse show

[@brofiss352]

If this continues for a few years, I could see this show being the greatest “arrowverse” show. Maybe on par or surpassing Arrow

[@Mirrorcomics24]

@@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu all of that is what the show does good

[@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu]

@@Mirrorcomics24 What show does what good?

[@Mirrorcomics24]

@@MrWolfchamp-xi3cusuperman and Lois

[@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu]

@@Mirrorcomics24 I wasn't talking about Superman and Lois.

[@dakotatrue12]

I love Arrow, but even I have to admit that Superman and Lois is superior all around.

[@andyabdullah3324]

Just like you said, this series in season 1 has not had any filler episode in it. It's all connected and condensed and all moving the plot forward. That's why i really love it. It engage us without ever having to dragged us with unnecessary things. Also the cinematography and story are strong. The best yet in Arrowverse. It really shows us if CW showrunner and writer rrally do care for their series, it will ended up like this series. Heck, i even dsred to say that this series has surpassed and better that The Flash, Arrow, and any other Arrowverse show.

[@harrykuehn3894]

Some kids are just ready for life, it's rare but they are out there. They are self-possessed, confident, and smart; they give this old man hope for the future, maybe.

[@SLJ957]

The perfect superman would have to have: Henry cavill's physique and suit (I think it's the best suit coz the of the attention to detail) Christopher reeve's charm and likeability Tyler hoechlin's dialogue and love for his family and the people of smallville/metropolis

[@derekwaters8683]

I'd add that Brandon Routh brought a certain level of warmth and kindness that I don't think even Reeve had.

[@cngotham4111]

I don't like Henry suit at all. To dark in my opinion I perfer a bright suit matching superman's kinda and charming persona.

[@joshtalks1611]

I'm very glad that superman and Lois is a thing. Superman was underappreciated and mocked in favour of his female counterpart Supergirl in her TV show. Which I hated. But but gotta say I'm a huge fan of superman and Lois tbh. It's absolutely fantastic.

[@harrambou9468]

It’s getting a little slow but still great Perfectly balanced on all sides

[@nicholashodges201]

@@harrambou9468 I was afraid they would screw up Lois & make her like cw Iris Allen. Which would be really damn ironic in all the wrong ways...

[@patrikmacek121]

@@nicholashodges201 if we never hear Lois say ´´We are the Superman´´ we are fine.

[@nicholashodges201]

@@patrikmacek121 I'm okay as long she keeps acting like she *thinks* she's Superman, though. That's just vintage Lois. Seriously, if she wasn't w him, her butt would have died a looong time ago...

[@SSJKDotsSanctum]

Superman and Lois made me love Tyler Hoechlin, I hate how they downplayed his strength and status in Supergirl. Superman and Lois elevated him as Superman for me

[@trevturp7687]

Superman and Lois also saved his portrayal of Superman.

[@briansmith48]

That's because Supergirl became a very woke show. It started off good on CBS. But when it got transferred to the CW, the longer it ran, the more woke it got. So by the time Superman got there it was this whole female uber empowerment thing.

[@trevturp7687]

@@briansmith48 Supergirl didn’t start off good on CBS.

[@freakzeke6404]

The family man Superman from the Rebirth run is definitively my fav version of the character and this show captures that while also adding on a little more.

[@velvet_violet]

Tyler Hoechlin is the best hands down.

[@martinacosta3821]

for me this isn't just the best show on the arrowverse, but a heck of a show of its own, period.

[@supervoss4321]

Tyler Hoechlin is a good representation of live action Superman, and shows proper direction of how the character should be portrayed in morden times. But despite that the best Superman will always be Christopher Reeves.

[@PervySage723]

I love that the show focuses on Supermans personal life instead of some earth destroying threat all the time. Tyler also portrays exactly what I want out of a superman

[@akash377]

I think both can be balanced in a Superman movie.

[@prometheustv6558]

Superman and Lois is the best show in the Arrowverse right now.

[@trevturp7687]

That is undoubtedly correct.

[@giovannigiovanni.7220]

That would probably change after season 2.

[@trevturp7687]

@@giovannigiovanni.7220 You are probably right, but hopefully that doesn’t happen.

[@baker-po4ww]

People stop forgetting stargirl it is on par with this show

[@jay-ip7sr]

@@baker-po4ww star girl is flopping hard lmao, they have green lanterns daughter but they won’t focus on john diggles green lantern saga?💀

[@laurelsilberman5705]

“Thanks, my mom made it for me.😊”

[@spider-manunknown9193]

This show is the perfect show for Superman and the best live action Superman of all time.

[@darknemessis6880]

Nah that title belongs to Henri Cavil and his Superman . Sorry

[@trevturp7687]

Christopher Reeve is the best Superman.

[@trevturp7687]

@@darknemessis6880 No, that title belongs to Christopher Reeve and his Superman.

[@darknemessis6880]

@@trevturp7687 No that title belongs to Henry Cavil. Stop living in the past

[@trevturp7687]

@@darknemessis6880 No, that title belongs to Christopher Reeve. I’m not living in the past at all.

[@LUCA_G22]

This is how you make a realistic Superman without removing his hopeful attitude. And how he embodies hope is very realistic and I love that. I am going to miss this show.

[@thepatronarchy]

I have been enjoying this show SO DAMN MUCH. As you said, it's everything so well that it genuinely amazing. Great video.

[@matthewdennion6477]

Dude I totally agree with you! I did not think this show would be that good but it has really won me over! I do think this is the best live action Superman we’ve ever gotten! And I love Henry Cavill, Smallville was favorite show for many years, grew up with Reeves and think Routh is underrated but this show really is the best Superman we’ve ever gotten and I couldn’t be happier that it is!

[@sikarin_co2463]

Such a great show! I hope they can carry the momentum into season 2.

[@giovannigiovanni.7220]

Yes but more like can they keep the momentum after season 2 cause that's when the DC CW'S go bad.

[@mohammedazam6562]

@@giovannigiovanni.7220 it's not like the other shows had their first seasons as good as this show

[@DarthOwenZ]

its great because in reality it was supervised, written and directed by HBO--it is only shown in CW not directly in HBO because its still part of the arrowverse

[@tsingh7275]

The reason why the show is good is because this is HBO Produced including the writing and only released on the CW.

[@blue-12316]

Yeah and they got ideas from man of steel

[@thehighground7926]

Superman and Lois is pretty good for what I’ve watched. But Superman the Animated Series will always have a place in my heart.

[@openrange8889]

tyler and elizabeth are both amazing as clark and lois

[@TheDeFiler316]

That opening montage on the first episode gave me feeling I have not felt since the first Christopher Reeves movie.

[@jaelie8398]

I think Tyler Hochelin should be Superman in the movies now since Henry Cavill was axed

[@blackoutemzz2674]

Tyler Hoechlin is the best

[@darknemessis6880]

Henry Cavil is better

[@blackoutemzz2674]

​@darknemessis6880 Not really lol. Each to their own i guess.

[@rossalexander1711]

I couldn't agree more. Best show CW has ever done!

[@shadowstrike234]

I despise how Zack Snyder made Superman dark and gritty. Don't get me wrong, MoS was a good modernization, but now it's led people to believe that this incredible character is overpowered and boring.

[@patrikmacek121]

He lost me when he made Kal kill Zod, there is always another way. Zack Snyder was good for Watchmen, maybe Batman solo film could work , but certainly not Superman or other more lighter characters, basically anyone from Justice League. Still I did enjoy Snyder Cut and the way Snyder made Cyborg kinda makes me regret my first statements about Snyder not being able to properly make lighter characters.

[@danielkeller1337]

You have to look at it from his point of view, which most of you nerds aren't. There are different versions of Supermen. He was the first to start down the different Superman path. WB and most critics didn't like his version. I for one loved it.

[@shadowstrike234]

@@danielkeller1337 same, I loved MoS too, but it's just not my version of Superman.

[@patrikmacek121]

@@danielkeller1337 when you reply to video that has “Ultimate Superman Adaptation” in name, congrats, you’re nerd aswell.

[@SerginhoPMoura]

Most people always thought Superman was boring. And he grew irrelevant over the years. Zack Snyder made him modern and relevant again by giving him some actual depth. I just don't understand what some people have against some "grittiness".

[@theguardian3431]

Love the Superman and Lois show. I agree with you that this is the best Superman adaptation. It's also the best Lois adaptation.

[@2jebeal]

The best superman series since Smallville

[@I_am_Raziel]

The first one, but yes, it is great 👍

[@captaineri.223]

Dint know people hated the Snyder cut that deeply.

[@maximussaktish]

I agree that this show superman doesnt look like the superman im used to and hes really small but the writting really makes him really feels like the superman i loved from the comic and animated shows

[@richardjohnson9543]

I rank Hoechlin and Tulloch right up there with Reeve and Kidder. And if you check out comic artist Gary Frank's version of Lois Lane in Action Comics, she's a dead ringer for Elizabeth Tulloch. And this was several years before she got the part

[@legoobi-wankenobi3080]

Y'know what this show has that other arrowverse shows don't? Maturity and Respect. The characters *feel* like their comic book counterparts.

[@mezful594]

This is the first arrowverse show I was interested in, I watched because I heard you say it was great. I watched the whole show in two days. Thanks for giving something to do while I had COVID.

[@jaidoncrawford1163]

I love how the best cw show wasn't made at the cw (directed and written by the good people at HBO Max)

[@GTRracingPR]

Tyler Hoechlin is the best Superman

[@fireflame62]

That flash family vs Godspeed was exactly like a Power Rangers fight

[@patrikmacek121]

And final confrontation was DC/Star Wars crossover fan-made battle

[@danarossa]

I've never managed to watch a full season of any cw show before (tried flash and supergirl). And I only got interested in this one because I've seen few comments somewhere that "it's suprizingly great" so I turned it on... And the first few minutes of the first episode completely got me hooked on. And I binge watched it in 2 days. And now I can't get over it. I keep watching the overview and so on. What a great show

[@jeremyleonbarlow]

Every character in the show has a motivation that feels natural. Nothing feels contrived or forced to arrive at a plot point. It's entirely organic.

[@tauhid9983]

Honestly the moment I saw Elizabeth and Tyler on screen together....I WAS LIKE YES! THAT'S THE ONE.... Superman has always been CW's strongest suit and no matter how shitty the seasons might get they never fail superman which is always so welcoming. Also supergirl never wrote superman as a sidekick. Litterally the first eps of the season 2 people were almost like kneeling to him as he flew into the DEO. In truth super girl was the actual side kick but superman since he is in kara's city wanted to give her the spotlight then take all of it for himself.

[@dishansinghmehta8891]

What was meant is that supergirl was supposed to be the one who had shadow over her but they made superman inside her shadow kinda, They decided to make Supergirl a female Superman, ya know showing supergirl to be superior than superman is where the problem lies.

[@dakotatrue12]

Superman was portrayed as weaker than Kara. He said himself that she was stronger than him. Even though he's been on the planet for 20 more years than her. I can't go into detail as to how he was portrayed as the sidekick because it's been so long since I've watched the show, however I know it happened.

[@tauhid9983]

@@dishansinghmehta8891 well she isn’t exactly superior in that sense. Literally the first season superman waste one saving her and shit lol. But regardless this is her show… and Clark is in national city so it makes sense why she was given the spotlight. Also the stronger bit idk if that’s a reference to the fight but both are similar in strength it seems like so for supergirl to one isn’t exactly surprising.

[@tauhid9983]

@@dakotatrue12 well superman wasn’t exactly portrayed weaker. He lost one fight against supergirl and that even in the presence of silver kryptonite. Also supergirl being an adult just like Clark and her spending her teens in krypton gives her an edge to superman soaking him on the radiation. In terms of the power levels both are pretty similar. Also supergirl being just as powerful isn’t anything new even in the comics just look back at how she rag dolled darkseid with superman

[@dakotatrue12]

@@tauhid9983 yes, he was portrayed weaker. I clearly remember him saying that she is stronger than him. I have no problem if they are similar in power, but saying she is more powerful is wrong. How exactly does spending her teens on Krypton give her any advantage? Kryptonians on Krypton are just like any human. Like I said, yes she has similar, if not even power to Superman. The problem I have is him being portrayed as weaker.

[@TheMetallicaman13]

That’s one thing I loved about this show is the character development. Some shows go way too long without making significant progress with the character

[@jonathanweinberg6901]

Incredible show. Everything about this show is perfect. Just..amazing👏👏

[@nikhilbhatnagar7745]

I agree with everything you said here. Christopher Reeve is always gonna be Superman for me, but this show absolutely reflects Clark. Makes me damn proud to be a fan.

[@lukehopper465]

Smallville is also a great show it has its flaws but it was the peak of the arrow verse

[@giovannigiovanni.7220]

It was the peak? It created the peak for modern superhero shows not just for DC, not just Marvel, but non DC and Marvel superhero TV shows like The Boys and Invincible.

[@henrygrace138]

I used to think superman was borin, but then I found this show which made me realise how great of a character he was

[@mcsthethreequel9557]

Aside from the writing, CGI, story... It's the first time where I've actually cared about every single side character. Hell, I don't even care about the OG Team Flash anymore. Meanwhile Superman & Lois has characters like Kyle and Sam who are becoming some of my favourites. I hope to see this show hit a 5th season at least. Maybe even a 6th.

[@SevenZeroEleven]

Im just cherishing it as long as it's good, one thing I did wrong was being over-judgy for flash S1 and S2 and now looking back at it I should've just enjoyed it while it was good before it went downhill, I'm doing the same here.

[@brittm851]

I love your channel I always can agree and respect your opinion, and I loved the way u talked about Superman and Lois, u inspire me to maybe do a channel like this, thank you (:

[@captaineri.223]

Walking w clark kent. Edit: flying actually.

[@deadpoolnerd]

With so much over saturation of "what if superman or someone essentially superman was evil" depictions and stories, it's so refreshing to see a version of Superman exhibiting the best qualities to him. The dorky optimist who doesn't have all the answers but is trying to help everyone. And it's not just filating him saying he's a savior he's a symbol of hope above people. They show why he's viewed as a symbol of hope, and hammer in he doesn't wanna be viewed as above humanity. Despite not being human he is filled with humanity still and what makes him a part of the people.

[@hrithiksubinkv9333]

I have seen every superman adaptation but when someone says superman the face that comes to my mind is Henry Cavil. it's not like I don't like other supermans but that man is born as Man of Steel

[@owofrostyy8840]

I'd agree with u, had Snyder not ruined the character, making the guy dark and sorta relatable (like within inner conflict)

[@batblaze97]

I wasn’t originally excited for Superman and Lois but now I’m happy I love this show

[@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu]

That's probably debatable. Or definitely debatable. Christopher Reeve's and Richard Donner defined Superman. That movie defined pretty much the entire Superhero genre of films and tv and gave the definitive live action version of Superman. Gave Superman a soul. Gave vulnerability to the invulnerable. The Man beneath the Steel. Christopher Reeve's acting in the scene where he finds Lois dead is a prime example of how.

[@Mirrorcomics24]

They started the superhero franchise but superman and Lois feels like every good part of superman (including reeves)combined

[@dakotatrue12]

That version was good and was very influential in the superhero industry and just movie industry in general, however Superman in this show embodies every amazing aspect of Superman.

[@livingarrows]

All respect to Christopher Reeve and it's fine if you prefer his Superman, but what I appreciate bout Tyler's version is that Clark Kent is the real person and Superman is the secret identity. I don't think it's fair to use a word such as "definitive" since there will always be someone with a different opinion. I think that's the best thing about the character -- there have been many interpretations, many actors bringing him to life, and we can all find one version of Superman that speaks to us. That's what makes him such an iconic hero, right? As of now, my personal opinion is that I'm very much enjoying Tyler's Superman more than I've enjoyed any other interpretation (but it doesn't take anything away from Reeve or Donner).

[@elijahlee3610]

I find it extremely ironic how you claim reeve made superman vulnerable when he was the literal embodiment of a plot device. A prime example actually IS lois' death. What does he do afterward? He time travels and saves her. Was this established previously? No. Was it ever explained? No. The movie gives him whatever power he needs to solve the situation, whether it be time travel, amnesia kissing powers, telekinesis, "rebuilding vision", or cloning, etc. That's not vulnerability that's hax.

[@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu]

@@elijahlee3610 his acting in that scene is what I was talking about. Emotional vulnerability. My comment is clear in that regard. And it kind of was pre established by Jor El wasn't it?

[@IvanaChapman]

My favourite Superman/Clark. My favourite Lois Lane. This show is getting it right.

[@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu]

The part where you say the CW shows always looked like low budget TV is pretty spot on. On top of the cinematography the editing and direction is usually bad. This stuff can be overlooked if you got a strong enough narrative. A narrative that consists of likeable characters that you can get behind. Something that Flash has even with the low budget TV and lifeless direction it can have. Supergirl as well people could argue seeing as how the show does seem to have a devoted following despite the production quality

[@kdean_art1066]

16 seconds. Within 16 seconds they sold me on Tyler Hoechlin during the first episode of Superman and Lois. From the moment he gently sets down the car, to when he says: "Thanks! My mom made it for me!". That was when I knew that this series understood Superman fundamentally, and is the clip I show to people to generate interest. From that moment, I knew it was going to be the only CW show I watched on a regular basis. I dropped off of Arrow at season 3, Flash at season 2, never finished Supergirl past season 1 (episode 18 is the furthest I got), stopped Legends of Tomorrow after season 2, and I never started Batwoman OR Black Lightning. The CW from a writing level is more often than not objectively bad (take this from someone who ACTUALLY watches Riverdale), but Superman and Lois? It's in a whole other league. Personally I hope S&L stays mostly disconnected from the Arrowverse because I don't want to see the quality of these characters dip again. EDIT: I'm glad it has an HBO Max budget and the benefit of having shorter seasons. I think 13-15 episodes is a perfect length to tell a complete story rather than the 22 episode standard the CW is set on.

[@manofsteel3165]

Reeve and Hoechlin are the best in my opinion

[@jaelie8398]

Agreed. I also think Brandon Routh was underrated

[@robertpattinson69]

This show is a absulate MASTERPIECE.

[@Me-tp6ll]

This show is just Fan service... its its tooo good

[@ManojKumar-qc5zx]

I think Superman could have been a skinny dwarf and still be Superman.... It's not like his muscles need to grow.

[@garyjones3896]

This show was absolutely beautiful and phenomenal. I loved it so much and I was on pins and needles the entire season

[@johnmartinez631]

We’re technically getting reign of the supermen with Eradicater (even if it’s character inspired by him,) steel, and his son being superboy. All we need is Doomsday and we got the classic 90’s story, only in reverse.

[@CyGea]

Still missing Cyborg Superman, or whoever is going to take Hank's place. I think it's going to be Kyle. (I doubt they will use Supergirl's version of Hank Henshaw.)

[@johnmartinez631]

@@CyGea god I hope not!!! They cucked out Superman and Martian manhunter to prop up her and anything from her show would not be welcomed by me

[@GTRracingPR]

Best CW show and this season is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@JAZZYLGPRODUCTIONSLLC]

My favorite live action version as well

[@on-uo8bc]

Just saw this and you pretty much matched my thoughts. That "power rangers " vibe of the CW shows statement described the other shows. This show is underrated. I was also on the fence with the casting at 1st but Tyler and the cast nailed the characters and the cw writers finally nailed it. Hoping they can have 5 + plus seasons but with the current dcu situation not sure if that will happen. This show is indeed refreshing.

[@UltraViolentMoon]

Superman & Lois made me love superman again.

[@biocapsule7311]

Tyler Hoechlin is in no way small, he is likely one of the buffer actors around. But for some reason it just doesn't work on certain costume. Personally I didn't liked how the season was resolved but this is likely the best adaptation of Superman. Also, this is how you write Lois Lane.

[@46LCG]

I'm so glad this show was renewed and bringing my favorite characters alive. Just wonderful to see an honest family show about family!

[@KrytoRift]

Love this show. I wasn't jazzed about the casting even though I like Tyler in teen wolf but Im sold.

[@kcn6424]

Jonathan is the heart of the show. He doesn't need powers. Jordan takes after Clark, while Jon takes after Lois.

[@darknemessis6880]

Yes he does need powers . He is just lame , uninteresting and useless without them

[@kcn6424]

@@darknemessis6880 Clearly he doesn't need powers as he's a show standout and favorite. Powers don't mean shit without character.

[@darknemessis6880]

@@kcn6424 Powers means everything especially for someone who is supposed to be Superman's son .

[@ewie6040]

A lot of the people I've seen hate on this say it doesn't have enough action and at that point I immediately know they're a movie fan and not a comic fan. Superman doesn't fight all the time, he's a character and has complicated relationships and people who only watch the movies don't understand that

[@dinosoid2000]

Pfft. As soon as I saw Bitsie Tulloch was cast as Lois I quite literally said aloud to myself "oh my God she's perfect". I knew she'd make a great Lois Lane.

[@randomknowledgeperson2872]

another thing i loved was that Lois loves clark for clark. In the OG superman movies(which i love to death) one of my only complaints is that Lois never falls in love with clark but instead with superman. she only wants to be with “clark” when she finds out that this lovable and dorky guy is actually superman. But in this lois is directly asked about how she feels about superman(before she learns who he really is) and says that she likes clark kent instead which i just love! that is 100% the relationship that they both have in the comics and in my opinion is the relationship that they both should have

[@disposable_hero1725]

The Crossover Lois was cringe AF with the Feminsts BS the Supergirl writers made her into, Glad SM&L writers chose the different road for her.

[@godrules3596]

Personally I would've picked Ioan Gruffudd for Superman but Tyler did a phenominal job think they got supermans powers and full potential spot on and they even made steel powerful without it being unrealistic and portrayed his and supermans powers just like the comics especially Superman coming to the end of S2 and the last episode and in general showed just how powerful superman is when he does and doesn't hold back. The most impressive thing for me is the VFX and power of the punches and speed VFX especially after he sundipped and warped the planet with his speed. My only problem was the tease for Doomsday which just ended being bizzaro because if it wasn't revealed I would say thats the best live adaptation even more than Kryptons version. The same creators, VFX artist and directors should make a silver surfer or sentry series because like supes they are just fucking OVERPOWERED.

[@CyGea]

After your little bit on Kyle, I now would not be surprised if they are setting him up to be a new Cyborg-Superman, with different motivations.