Superman Vs Sun Wukong is PAINFULLY CLOSE

[@kyphxr]

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[@MATTHEW-y2h]

9:01, Lol, the MacGuffin rock.

[@vond5829]

If you actually read on the 72 spells that Sun Wukong knows. You'd find a spell that literally allows his soul to escape from his flesh with no consequences. That time I check, most superman are helpless if they wish to harm the ethereal

[@flacko7750]

1:42 cold wukong i ntro😮‍💨

[@bricks4469]

Very entertaining and I was surprised when you only had around 400 subs. I’ll definitely be sticking around

[@Justennj]

Wukong from mythology is mopping Superman(any form).

[@juanma0840]

Idk man cosmic superman, superman one million... seems tuff

[@orale_]

Superboring vs Monke Yeah monke slaps that bore

[@Wicha_Game]

Red hulk vs Green hulk ( Bruce) ? Who would win

[@Louiiecontt]

Green

[@awsjsn]

Cool video great explanation me likey

[@FUMI-i9x]

Just putting it out there in the books wukong has carried infinity has and will make infinite copies of his enemies and can boost his powers by turning into kaiju mode and this powers has been amplified by transcending into the fighting budha either way the video was a fun watch I really like it.

[@hannes5437]

In reality this fight isn't even a close call. Sun Wukong has 7 kinds of immortality, make thousands of clones, literally ride clouds once leapt to the edge of the universe in one jump. The only way Superman could kill him, would be with the scorpion demoness's poison.

[@mr.q337]

Both MK and Sup held the conceptualize of Infinity. So at least strength wise they are on equal terms. Wukong know Magic which Sup known to be vulnerable again. Wukong can also create clones which equally as strong as the original.

[@kyphxr]

wukong's clones are not equal to the original, and while he does know magic, he doesn't have any particularly offensive magical abilities which makes it a close fight

[@mikasaackerman88]

wukong is beat superman up it not even close

[@jezrahsupremido106]

bro this debate ain't even close like really really really really really close sun wukong would destroy the entire DC universe

[@kyphxr]

stats wise sure, but wukong isn't known for having too many particularly offensive abilities. like I said, he's known more for being a trickster than for just punching everything in the face. I don't think anyone in the DC universe could kill monkey, but the ruyi jingu bang isn't really gonna kill the entire DC Universe

[@jezrahsupremido106]

@kyph *Unbeatable Feats:* 1. *Defying the Jade Emperor's Authority*: Sun Wukong challenged and defeated the Jade Emperor's forces, earning his respect. 2. *Outrunning the Four Heavenly Kings*: He outran the four most powerful gods in Chinese mythology. 3. *Lifting and Tossing the Nine-Heavenly-Platform*: A massive, cosmic platform that supported the heavens. 4. *Shaking the Pillars of Heaven*: His immense strength caused the heavenly pillars to tremble. 5. *Creating Chaos in the Underworld*: Sun Wukong disrupted the underworld's order, freeing spirits and causing chaos. 6. *Subduing the Red Boy*: Defeated the powerful demon, Red Boy, who was said to be unbeatable. 7. *Taming the White Bone Demon*: Conquered the powerful White Bone Demon, a formidable foe. 8. *Racing around the World*: Completed a lap around the world in seconds, leaving behind a trail of divine energy. 9. *Picking and Eating the Peaches of Immortality*: Ate the peaches that granted immortality, making him virtually unkillable. 10. *Surviving the Fiery Furnace*: Endured the intense heat of the divine furnace, emerging unscathed. *Unmatched Abilities:* 1. *72 Transformations*: Can transform into any creature, object, or being. 2. *Cloud Travel*: Can travel vast distances on clouds. 3. *Invisibility*: Can become invisible at will. 4. *Shape-Shifting*: Can change his form to adapt to any situation. 5. *Elemental Control*: Can manipulate the elements (wood, fire, earth, metal, water). *Invulnerabilities:* 1. *Immunity to Divine Weapons*: Resistant to even the most powerful divine weapons. 2. *Regeneration*: Can heal from any injury instantly. 3. *Poison Immunity*: Resistant to all poisons and toxins. 4. *Disease Immunity*: Cannot be affected by diseases. These feats demonstrate Sun Wukong's unparalleled power and abilities in Chinese mythology

[@melvingenao550]

​@@kyphxrfull power nirvana sun wukong fought darkseid in monkey king issue #6. Darkseid beat him in one blast.

[@kyphxr]

@@melvingenao550 that is not the same character LMAO. I’m talking ab jttw

[@melvingenao550]

@@kyphxr it actually is. It's confirmed all myth feats happened and he reached nirvana. Darksied infiltrated the mythology of sun wukong and beat him. This means all feats apply to this version and he lost to darkseid. I read the issue. Darkseid>>>sun wukong.

[@adityanair6540]

Brother you are down played both of them so much the monkey King lifted Mount sumaru on his shoulder which holds the weight of the whole universe according to Hindu and Buddhist ideologies also monkey King has 72 early transformations in which he can transform into anything and gain that things strength only limitation is he can't turn into omnipotent beings like Buddha or jade emperor and to kill him you love to kill him 72 times India's at least 1000 layers of immortality Superman is also much faster than light impact in speed I will give the edge to Superman but monkey King can make clones each as powerful as the original and with the ability of 72 earthly transformations the fight is not close at all the monkey King stomps

[@kyphxr]

the reason that the fight is close is that monkeys main offensive attack is his staff. A 17k lb staff is powerful, but not gonna do much against Superman. Also you are incorrect, wukong's clones are typically depicted as weaker than himself. Wukong also has the ability to shapeshift into divine creatures, but can't imitate their abilities so that wouldn't do much either - not many animals that are gonna last in a fight against superman. I agree that wukong is far more powerful defensively, i genuinely don't know if anyone in the dc universe can kill him, but he doesn't have superpowered abilities designed to kill gods like a lot of the DC universe does so it would be difficult for wukong to kill them outright.

[@Short_heights]

@@kyphxr Kyphxr, i have watched all of your power scaling videos and i just have to say that, do you even know the characters you are power scaling. Because by just by looking up how strong is Superman on either google or youtube, you see that he can holde a blackhole in his hands, he can bench press earth's weight for five days straight, it has been stated and shown that his battles could destroy the universe multible times, fought beings that are infinitly beyond all of these feats and he himself stated that concepts like weight, distance, temperature even spacetime had lost their meaning for him. superman has also traveled to the edge of the universe and back in 60 days(by the way the DC universe is at a lowball hundreds of trillions of light-years in length, which was said by Lex Luthor one of the smartest men in the multiverse), Superman scales to the Flash(who has so many speed feats that i can't even list them all, but for example he out ran the big bang, out ran the concept of death, traveled through time many times with cheer speed and out ran the speed force it self, which is basically the concept of speed. And also the speed of light is much faster in DC compared to real life and thats why they somtimes say that somone was close to the speed of light and did a 4 sextillion times the speed of light feat.) and Superman is beyond space and time and has fought beings who are literal platonic concepts which means that speed dosen't really matter to him. I was also gonna go over how you lowballed Sun woukong but somone has probably already done that and Offical divine has a good video on him so you can just watch his video on him and i am just a bit to lazy/tierd to do that, so for now i hope you see this and improve your skills in power scaling.

[@kyphxr]

@@Short_heights Lol have you actually watched the videos? Almost every feat you just listed came from other versions of superman. I specifically said this video was discussing post crisis superman, not every version of superman ever created lmao. I specifically said other versions of superman were omnipotent beings that could give the jade emperor a run for his money, those are the versions of superman your listing here. I also don't really understand how i could lowball wukong if superman is as strong as your saying? If you want a fight between pre crisis superman or superman prime one million (like what youre suggesting with this comment) then wukong would get wiped out of existence. Maybe try actually watching the video before commenting? like bro I said a fight between the two of them would destroy the entire planet before either of them took any damage. ntm ive literally said before that im not a fan of traditional power scaling, because stats get real stupid, real fast. Flash (Wally) is generally considered to be one of the most powerful beings in the DC universe, but the flash has lost fights to people like gorilla grodd and captain boomerang. If you want to argue that those 2 are 2 of the most powerful beings in the universe, I think the logic you're using is stupid. Based on what you said, superman should've instantly killed the justice league in the snyder cut but he didn't... because there are multiple versions of the same character. thats how comics work

[@Short_heights]

@@kyphxr Kyphxr, most of the feats i stated was from post-crisis superman and other post-crisis characters. But if you wanna know about more of post-crisis superman feats then go watch IvaN The UnStoppable or WebCamParrot videos on him. I still belive that you lowballed Sun Wukong but i can under stand because Sun Wukong's feats are harder to scale because of it's age and the language berrier but if you want to understand how Sun Wukong could compare to superman then watch Lonk's Takes video on Goku vs Sun Wukong which is were i got some of his more normal scaling. For example just one normal buddha could be beyond infinite Dimensions which a remainer stage nirvana/buddha Sun Wukong would scale to, this is not fighting buddha Wukong/Wukong who reached complete Nirvana so this would count as a feat for the Sun Wukong you want to use and Sun Wukong's battle against the gods of heaven disturbed both heaven and the living universe with there battle, Sun Wukong deafeted a being that could split apart the universe/existence with a whistle and leaped to the edge of heaven(which should be comparable to our universe if not way bigger) in very short amount of time. Okay, i get why you think that it would be stupid if a gorilla and a guy with boomerangs could beat the Flash, but it is fiction, if the wrighter makes it consistent that a bug who knows good kung-fu can beat a eldrich planet eater then i don't see why you should ignore it just because you think it is stupid. Captain boomerang through out post-crisis probably never even fought the Flash and i think you just did not give the respect Gorilla Grodd deserves, he has been able to tag the Flash many times and even keept up with Wonder women(who would scale to supermans more basic feats)for some time and in new stories he has gotten speed force abilites if you want a "more realistic" anwser to his power. I did not use any feat from any justice league movie, i just used feats from the comics and a specially from the post-crisis era of comics, make sure if you ever try to argue against someones arguments then make sure that your not misinterpreting there arguments, in that way you become a better power scaler.

[@kyphxr]

@@Short_heights post crisis superman has held a miniature black hole, but idk how you think that would be a more impressive feat that traveling at almost light speed which i stated in the video? And even if it was Wukong could deffly withstand a black hole so idek why that feat would matter. The rest of them I dont think are post crisis but again, none of those feats are really something that demonstrates his ability to kill wukong so idk why those would matter. you keep saying i lowballed both of them, which ultimately means that the fight would still be fair, so im kind of getting the feeling what youre actually saying is that I just didn't go in depth enough. Which is fine but im not looking to go super in depth and make a 40 minute history video just to talk about a hypothetical fight between 2 characters. There's other youtubers who do that, you can watch their videos. For the points about wukong, again im not a fan of scaling characters, when wukong fights gods like Nezha and JTTW says it disturbed the heavens and the mortal realm - its a dramatic description of the widespread effects not a literal description of damage. It caused chaos amongst the other gods and usurped the jade emperors total control over the heavens, it didn't destroy them. But also i said a fight between superman and wukong would destroy the entire planet before either one of them began to take any damage so im not sure what youre point is. Im assuming your talking about peng when you say split the universe, and while you are correct that wukong beat him, 1 its generally understood that while peng can cause cosmic levels of destruction, the ability to split apart the universe is not literal, and 2 regardless of if it was or not, the great peng operates at such a different capacity that the feat is kind of useless when comparing against superman. Peng is shown to have pretty impressive offensive abilities, but he doesn't have nearly the level of durability that superman or wukong have, so wukong vs peng is utilizing a completely different skillset that wukong vs superman (part of why i don't like powerscaling). Wukong jumping to the end of the universe is a common misconception: Wukong believed that he had jumped out of the universe, but the text tells us that he had jumped 36k miles in that instant which 1. is much smaller than the universe, 2. is a feat we already knew wukong could do (its just his cloud somersault), and 3. was just monkey being confused - he was still in buddahs palm. If you like traditional power scaling thats fine, but thats never gonna be the content i make. Id much rather look at the characters feats and apply logic to that, rather than drawing lines that superman scales to flash who scales to darkseid who scales to doomsday because those fights almost always are won with different strategies and different skillsets, and are never gonna be something thats able to actually be measured. I make these videos cuz its fun to think about hypotheticals between different characters that we'll never get to see fight, but ultimately its just a fun thought experiment. If you want to treat it like a math problem that has a correct answer thats fine, but thats not what im gonna do.

[@saptamdebbarma246]

Bro its sun wukong not sukong

[@kyphxr]

lol thats a typo thank you