SuperYacht Ragnar Arrested by the People | Ep57 SY News

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@BTM866
@BTM866 2 жыл бұрын
Before this Ukraine situation I had no idea about this whole Yatching world or really ever thought about it. It's so interesting, I've learned so much since finding this channel last week.
@alhubb66
@alhubb66 2 жыл бұрын
He has years of great videos! It is amazing to see these one of a kind creations... So interesting
@BTM866
@BTM866 2 жыл бұрын
@@alhubb66 Right,I've been binge watching.
@BTM866
@BTM866 2 жыл бұрын
@@alhubb66 I saw this Yatch dock in my hometown in Canada called Blue Moon which is a 60M Yatch. At the time I thought it was a cruise ship from how big it seemed. Now I've I realized that it's the equivalent of a nice Honda in the Yatch world 😂
@tunahxushi4669
@tunahxushi4669 2 жыл бұрын
Me too, I'm only watching it to get some enjoyment seeing billionaire criminals lose their yachts. I hope they actually do lose them permanently, I don't know how feasible that really is.
@arvinoo5881
@arvinoo5881 2 жыл бұрын
Same, and now I'm outraged that these evil corrupt oligarchs are sailing the world on floating palaces. Meanwhile people in Ukraine are dying having never even seen a superyacht in their lives.
@wellcraft19
@wellcraft19 2 жыл бұрын
A minor inconvenience for the crew (who still easily can fly home), but a simple and effective way to get to a former KGB agent and Poutine ally. Good on the Norwegian merchants for taking a simple but effective step.
@CleopatraAnimations
@CleopatraAnimations 2 жыл бұрын
They can fly home there is a full functionall airport close by
@heuhen
@heuhen 2 жыл бұрын
@@einfelder8262 That is just what he said, What drug are you on?
@mbd6054
@mbd6054 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The Norwegian merchants are doing the right thing. The fewer of these yachts roaming the globe, coincidentally arriving at strategic destinations, the better. Most of them resemble destroyers, in disguise. Whereas I sympathise with the crews of these vessels, who are just making a living, the odds are that their contracts are soon to be terminated. Perhaps they'd be better off seeking safer employment.
@louis_quinn
@louis_quinn 2 жыл бұрын
exactly!
@heuhen
@heuhen 2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing with this story, I do get that felling that media is shooting from the hip, on "Ragnar", instead of do some factacheck. But then there is always a backside of a medal!
@dtaylor9673
@dtaylor9673 2 жыл бұрын
The real owner of Ragnar should stand up and identify himself, and give proof of ownership to the authorities. That would be the obvious solution? Because this has not happened you can understand the concern and suspicion. Or, my understanding is Ragnar was converted by Icon Shipyards in the Netherlands, so the real authorities should be able to find out who paid for the work?
@xpusostomos
@xpusostomos 2 жыл бұрын
Some shell company no doubt paid for it.
@Greg_Chase
@Greg_Chase 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is the solution as you have laid it out. There is history on this channel's other videos of a russian owner replacing a non-russian crew (suddenly, recently) with a russian crew. I can't remember which video of this channel (eSysman SuperYachts) mentioned this crew-swap - I am pretty sure the crew swap was to have taken place right around the time putin went into Ukraine. It was as if "non-russian crew in good times, russian crew when we might be in trouble" was the owner's thinking. To your point, they can disambiguate the ownership immediately if the owner identifies himself. You want to trust the 'grapevine' too - if those folks on the ground in Norway fully believe this is a russian owner, connected to putin, I'd wager better than 50/50 odds they know the truth. The vessel's crew could have easily disclosed this "confidentially' to people in the local yacht operation industry there, and that's how the word got out.
@ihatemybosses
@ihatemybosses 2 жыл бұрын
The suspected owner is not on the sanctions list. @2:20
@angela1984a
@angela1984a 2 жыл бұрын
@@ihatemybosses And?
@BobfromSydney
@BobfromSydney 2 жыл бұрын
I sure the grapevine/rumour mill in Norway understand who the owners are. This Yacht might not be on the sanctions list yet, but I think that individuals and businesses SHOULD have the right to boycott Russia and exercise that right in solidarity with the people of Ukraine.
@MrSandseeker
@MrSandseeker 2 жыл бұрын
The Skipper and crew are free to leave their vessel any time, to infer that there would be hardship felt by the crew if they ran out of fuel in port is nonsense. Otherwise, I find your commentary interesting and informative, keep it up!
@macswanton9622
@macswanton9622 2 жыл бұрын
yea it's just the ragnar. Crew may want to sign on w/another outfit, or take a vacation
@davidhargreaves1728
@davidhargreaves1728 2 жыл бұрын
So you’d leave your trolly collecting job at B&Q because The Range sell Russian dolls? The crew are getting paid, why would they simply resign? Your not making sense, empathy is walking in another mans moccasins for 40 miles before passing judgement.
@Mk-yg4vf
@Mk-yg4vf 2 жыл бұрын
Get out the oars
@sandlmv8301
@sandlmv8301 2 жыл бұрын
You're free to leave your job too mate, but why should you? These are just innocent crew trying to earn a living like the rest of us.
@jollyjoker6340
@jollyjoker6340 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidhargreaves1728 If they don't like the conditions they're working under they can resign. If they're fine with sitting where they are, that's fine too. Using the crew just as an excuse is not fine though.
@MarkFromEastleigh
@MarkFromEastleigh 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy watching these videos. It shows a lot of in depth information that the average person wouldn't know.
@erfquake1
@erfquake1 2 жыл бұрын
My vote would be that it doesn't matter what the nationality of the crew is, it only matters what the nationality of the owner is. And it sounds like the Norwegians know something that we don't.
@Myrcella_Rykker
@Myrcella_Rykker 2 жыл бұрын
@Grim FPV these are the super rich of Russia that Support Putin's evil empire. Those that aid and abed crimes also get punished
@AndyCutright
@AndyCutright 2 жыл бұрын
@@Myrcella_Rykker Where's the proof? Do you have evidence apart from your suspicions?
@marcbee1234
@marcbee1234 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyCutright Crickets like I expected but there's still time for Myrcella to prove me wrong.
@thomasborgsmidt9801
@thomasborgsmidt9801 2 жыл бұрын
Precisely!
@Myrcella_Rykker
@Myrcella_Rykker 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcbee1234 wow I'm supost to respond in minutes!?🤣🤣😘 I'm not glue to my tech like you my Russian bot collecting worthless Rubles. Let me guess your an extra account to the above comment
@jujuUK68
@jujuUK68 2 жыл бұрын
If the crew had anything about them, they'd fly home. And of course the yacht isn't owned by the oligarch. Its owned by a shell company, which is owned by an oligarch.
@xpusostomos
@xpusostomos 2 жыл бұрын
A shell company that can't buy Shell. Ironic.
@carlfromtheoc1788
@carlfromtheoc1788 2 жыл бұрын
Companies, shell companies. Plural.
@benghazi4216
@benghazi4216 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnwright3426 Yeah, because the sanctions are about taking superyachts from oligarchs right... Russian economy is tanking. Russian stock experts are toasting to the death of the stock market on national TV. There are literally queues miles long and fights over sugar packages. That is Russia 2022.
@alexportiiii6414
@alexportiiii6414 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I really appreciate the distinction you make between things that you're relatively sure of and things that are speculation.
@cyril-rr2jk
@cyril-rr2jk 2 жыл бұрын
As far as that "feeling discriminated against" because Russian fishermen can get fuel while they can't, there's a huge difference between captains working to feed people and oligarchs feeding a madman's ego.
@calvin6429
@calvin6429 2 жыл бұрын
shame on him giving such brain dead statement
@zoeyshoots
@zoeyshoots 2 жыл бұрын
Who’s the madman?
@alexokunnur8946
@alexokunnur8946 2 жыл бұрын
Are you suggesting to sink all superyachts? :)) I totally agree!
@spicyirwin5835
@spicyirwin5835 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! U r smart, thx!
@spicyirwin5835
@spicyirwin5835 2 жыл бұрын
@@zoeyshoots Putin & Trump & Kim & Xi! Some others but cant recall their names!
@peccola2001
@peccola2001 2 жыл бұрын
I think the fact that Ragnar has a submarine on board, and was in the general area of NATO exercises with the suspicion of the owner being a former FSB/KGB officer, all combined provide a valid reason (legally) to arrest.
@maciejguzek3442
@maciejguzek3442 2 жыл бұрын
You 'think' ? This is insanity. I understand that dramatic events like war produce dramatic emotions and reaction.. but what the hell, this is not how justice should ever work. If there is indeed an existing law that they were breaking - then ok no problem, execute the law. But all these people who come out now with their bright ideas what should be done to Russian citizens unless they prove that they are not camels.. Do you realize that it is STALIN himself who said, 'there are no innocent people, only badly interrogated ones' ?
@peccola2001
@peccola2001 2 жыл бұрын
@@maciejguzek3442 you really didn't get the extend of my comment, did you?
@maciejguzek3442
@maciejguzek3442 2 жыл бұрын
@@peccola2001 I think the fact that peccola2001 has a potential tool to commit a rape, and was in the general area where there was a rape committed within the last year, coupled with the suspicion that he is interested in women, all combined provide a valid reason (legally) to arrest.
@aquacruisedb
@aquacruisedb 2 жыл бұрын
Compared to having your house destroyed, watching your kid die in your arms, seeing your whole way of life destroyed - then this boat having to wait a few weeks whilst they prove they are clean is really no biggie. P.S. If ownership is clean, why not just demonstrate it?? I.e. probably not clean.
@Make-Asylums-Great-Again
@Make-Asylums-Great-Again 2 жыл бұрын
SHOW ME ZI PAPERS!
@wiregold8930
@wiregold8930 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcelohendrix6139 He can't make the list if his control is masked. Cutting underwater cables is a euphemism for tapping the cable. This is how it's done.
@elliotmorin5560
@elliotmorin5560 2 жыл бұрын
Why should you have to demonstrate shit to buy gas? What is even the accusation? Being Russian and rich does not make you responsible for the invasion. Were rich Americans responsible for Iraq? You people are fucking unbelievable. The second the media says go you unleash your prejudice with no appreciation of individual responsibility.
@tokyo.peking
@tokyo.peking 2 жыл бұрын
So OWNER IS GUILTY UNTILL PROVEN INNOCENCE ? Very good NAZI trick. What about constitution and private property ? Nothing ?
@aquacruisedb
@aquacruisedb 2 жыл бұрын
@@tokyo.peking Yes, guilty. Guilty of hiding his true identity. If you want to buy a house for example in Europe, you have to prove your identity (through multiple means) and prove the source of your money. If you can't, you are assumed GUILTY of some sort of money laundering and you cannot buy the house. Same with opening a bank account, even when I went to buy a car recently I had to prove my identity and source of funds! So if it is like that for the ordinary person, why should these people be any different, why are they so special?? What has this to do with Nazis? What has this to do with private property and constitution? Are these words you just use without understanding their meaning?
@glennboyd939
@glennboyd939 2 жыл бұрын
The captain can clear the whole thing up by calling the owner, and asking for a one off declaration of ownership. By not doing so, implies some level of guilt. No-one needs to know the owner's name, just the nationality. If it's from a Russian satellite state, further information would be needed.
@pauldailey4477
@pauldailey4477 2 жыл бұрын
Are you going to listen to this triple vaxxed placebo? Glenn Boyd wants you a caged animal. He is a zionist too.
@Deckzwabber
@Deckzwabber 2 жыл бұрын
@@pauldailey4477 I hope a seagull steals your french fries. About as relevant a remark to the topic under discussion as your own comment, I should think.
@HisameArtwork
@HisameArtwork 2 жыл бұрын
so many yachts are going to Vladivostok and china has been salivating to get that region back, I wonder if those yachts are going into a trap once russia looses all its troops in Ukraine.
@GTLees
@GTLees 2 жыл бұрын
@@Deckzwabber Your comment had entertainment value...for me at least. 😂
@darthkek1953
@darthkek1953 2 жыл бұрын
@@pauldailey4477 I suppose he also has sex with kittens? In a horrifying plot twist, MALE kittens.
@robinfarman
@robinfarman 2 жыл бұрын
Keep going sir, your updates are a respite from the news
@petrosstefanis6234
@petrosstefanis6234 2 жыл бұрын
i feel the same
@wekker090
@wekker090 2 жыл бұрын
The crew can always leave. The owner should pop up to resolve this.
@uhuraenterprise6372
@uhuraenterprise6372 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr, Norway has a beautiful nature to explore, more interesting than sitting in a boat.
@peterebel7899
@peterebel7899 2 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't the owner of Ragnar show up to clarify the ownership? Norwegians are friendly people helping every seaman, but not criminals.
@orso66
@orso66 2 жыл бұрын
You can't force a company to provide services/products to an individual. If that company thinks that by providing fuel to Ragnar, they are helping Russian oligarchs and they don't want to do it, so be it. If the owner of the vessel is not who everyone thinks it is, then the real owner can come forward, demonstrate ownership, and the problem is solved. I understand billionaires want to keep their assets hidden for tax evasion and money laundering purposes, but their needs don't trump everyone else's rights or needs.
@mattk8810
@mattk8810 2 жыл бұрын
It only works when you want it to. What if the conditions were due to race, gender, etc?
@alfredonski
@alfredonski 2 жыл бұрын
a great idea would to be to show proof of support to ukraine in order to get services. The government could print out cards for us as proof of who supports Ukraine and if you want to eat at Mcdonalds you have to show the Ukraine Card. It would be for the better good. We are intelligent people
@romeisfallingagain
@romeisfallingagain 2 жыл бұрын
well, when it comes to the WORLDS RESOURCES, no one has the right to withold ANY RESOURCES.
@romeisfallingagain
@romeisfallingagain 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattk8810 or pronouns, bigot
@angela1984a
@angela1984a 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattk8810 But they aren't due to race or gender. So it's a stupid argument.
@MacAlex
@MacAlex 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see any problem, the crew takes a plane and goes home. The boat stays in Norway until the owner shows up and proves that the boat is his.
@jamier7073
@jamier7073 2 жыл бұрын
That is a really stupid answer. The owner has no obligation to prove ownership in an illegal impounding of a boat. Whenever the owner is needs to take action against those people either in the courts or in the back ally as those idiots have no idea who they are messing with and of the consequences of their actions.
@ike8236
@ike8236 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamier7073 Exactly, all these people have chosen a side and action will be taken against them. Truth will be told soon!
@gustavmeyrink_2.0
@gustavmeyrink_2.0 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamier7073 It isn't impounded, it is out of fuel. There is no court that could force somebody to sell fuel to the boat. If the owner wants his boat back he needs to turn up and prove ownership may be then he can buy fuel.
@DJShadesUK
@DJShadesUK 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamier7073 If you turn up at a gas station in your car and, for whatever reason, they wont or can't sell you fuel and you don't have enough in the tank to try elsewhere has your car been "illegally impounded"? 🤡🤡
@dolorespallares2735
@dolorespallares2735 2 жыл бұрын
Alex you hit the nail straight on the head. Give the crew a taxi for the nearest airport: “problem” solved.
@tonyseifert3370
@tonyseifert3370 2 жыл бұрын
Way to go Norwegians!!! Sure hold them and force them to prove ownership. It is a luxury yacht, not a fishing boat so suppliers are NOT messing with anyone's income.
@nan7503
@nan7503 2 жыл бұрын
But selling fuel for Russian fishing vessels?
@gustavmeyrink_2.0
@gustavmeyrink_2.0 2 жыл бұрын
@@nan7503 Why not?
@markdoldon8852
@markdoldon8852 2 жыл бұрын
There is a crew on board whose income is in jeopardy.
@Bikeaddict4235
@Bikeaddict4235 2 жыл бұрын
Cant imagine the crew getting much sympathy from anyone, they have a good idea what sort of people they are ultimately employed by , they are happy to take the big tips etc when normal times persist , same for Nannies and entourages that follow the money around.
@TheAccidentalViking
@TheAccidentalViking 2 жыл бұрын
Not true. The crew isn't to blame. I'll try to find some info about them, but I'm sure most Norwegians won't blame them.
@johncahill3644
@johncahill3644 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly this hinges on who the actual owner is. The mere fact that is still undeclared (let alone unknown) is highly suspicious, and a valid reason for caution.
@olasek7972
@olasek7972 2 жыл бұрын
@sooje nite no, it isn’t a “regular” ship, stopped being “regular” once the sanctions have been adopted. And a ship without a clear cut owner automatically becomes highly “irregular”.
@joaopedro-ue3xx
@joaopedro-ue3xx 2 жыл бұрын
Issue is this is the norm for yacht owners, nobody wants their name to be a google search away especially those of us with this much money
@Alexarakas
@Alexarakas 2 жыл бұрын
I love this channel.... Just incredibly informative and thoughtful content for those who aren't insiders allowing us to better understand the industry. Terrific stuff..
@mobayguy
@mobayguy 2 жыл бұрын
Like the man said - Row or Sail - Sure the good Brits onboard can get home ok. Fascinating industry and thanks for bringing it to us.
@jaquigreenlees
@jaquigreenlees 2 жыл бұрын
ok, abandon the ship in a Norwegian port, a ship that by international law must have a watch stander on board and on duty 24/7. Not one of the crew would ever get a job on a boat again.
@ryanb974
@ryanb974 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaquigreenlees In this situation I'm sure they would be excused by many... except RUS
@Make-Asylums-Great-Again
@Make-Asylums-Great-Again 2 жыл бұрын
Captain should sink it in the middle of the port.
@mbd6054
@mbd6054 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaquigreenlees On the contrary, many would support their actions, as individuals of integrity, and would be happy to employ them.
@jaquigreenlees
@jaquigreenlees 2 жыл бұрын
@@mbd6054 Integrity = holding to your agreements, leaving the ship means you have zero integrity. you breached a contract / agreement and cannot be trusted.
@purplewheelchair
@purplewheelchair 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the updates recently!
@jeremyxy23
@jeremyxy23 2 жыл бұрын
If the crew weren't getting paid, they would leave and go home, so getting paid to hang out on a yacht and do minimal work isn't hurting the crew. The only person it is hurting is the billionaire owner. I don't see a problem.
@kevinheath7588
@kevinheath7588 2 жыл бұрын
Well done Norway!! 🇬🇧+🇧🇻
@Seahorn_
@Seahorn_ 2 жыл бұрын
The crew can always leave the vessel, even with the Brexit. The people in Mariupol cannot leave. Good move Norway!
@vitalys5395
@vitalys5395 2 жыл бұрын
People of Mariupol had a choice to leave too 🤷‍♂️
@larsrons7937
@larsrons7937 2 жыл бұрын
The people of Mariupol could leave. The only problem was that the "safe corridor" was a kill zone. I don't believe such a thing exists in Norway (unless Russia attacks). So you're right, the crew can simply leave.
@Malishev
@Malishev 2 жыл бұрын
Will you pay Crew credits if they leave? You Support smth that is popular right now. Its Just funny.
@Seahorn_
@Seahorn_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@Malishev There is a reason why it is popular right now.
@Seahorn_
@Seahorn_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@Malishev And please explain what the crew wages have to do with this.
@stevemchadd
@stevemchadd 2 жыл бұрын
As uncomfortable as it is for the crew this sort of backlash from the Norwegian locals has come about in response to the atrocities in Ukraine, no doubt we will see more of this type of reaction in other ports, an ex KGB agent that can afford a vessel like this is hardly going to smell of roses when it comes to where and how he got his wealth.
@bokhans
@bokhans 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty similar case with Putin, KGB and have a 12000 sq meter palace in Sochi and a 800 million $ super yacht. Good salaries in KGB and an other thing, there is no ex KGB, if you enter KGB you are a KGB agent for the rest of your life.
@brahmburgers
@brahmburgers 2 жыл бұрын
The Brit crew should be paid and given plane or boat tickets to go home. I respect the Norwegians for not supplying the vessel. War has a lot of residual effect / repercussions.
@paulnaylor6035
@paulnaylor6035 2 жыл бұрын
Yep bang on the crew will be fine chances are there on shore power as the marina has a duty of care if they are that low on fuel ,if this is what we have to do to out the squeeze on putin and his oligarchs then so be it ,it will be interesting to see what happens if and when this blows over with the yachts seized or arrested do they get them back ??? Auction them off and all funds go to the Ukraines to re build their homes....
@basstrammel1322
@basstrammel1322 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulnaylor6035 Is there any buyers for the yachts in question? How much can we expect them going for?
@basstrammel1322
@basstrammel1322 2 жыл бұрын
@@brahmburgers The crew are free to leave and catch a plane back to UK, as far as I know. If and when they get their next paycheck has to be between them and the management.
@no_rubbernecking
@no_rubbernecking 2 жыл бұрын
Well isn't this just splendid: - Former Soviet chap was in KGB. - Has known, current ties to putin. - Has military-grade superyacht. - NOT on any sanctions list anywhere on Earth. ?!?
@csjrogerson2377
@csjrogerson2377 2 жыл бұрын
Please define a military grade superyacht. PS - dont include the colour grey.
@heuhen
@heuhen 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the statement, but I also have that feeling the entire story is media shooting from the hip, without properly checking the facts.... I got that weird felling about it. The yacht isn't military grade, it's just a normal exploration yacht, build on a offshore ship hull, painted in some dark colors, carrying mini-submarines that can have up to 3 persons onboards, for the rich people that want to see the life under water. If Russia wanted to take a cable, they send out on of there specialized vessel and do it in broad daylight, something we quite often see and they have done since the cold war-era. They even have Submarines based on there nuclear submarines that do that to, they would wast resources on a yacht for this. There is a video on youtube, where you can see the interior of Ragnar, and there isn't space for specialized equipment. Due to this, I do get that felling that something isn't right with the story around "Ragnar"! But how knows. they could have gutet the interior just a month after it was build, for playing a stupid game... but then the Norwegian military that was onboard an inspected the ship, would noticed it!
@no_rubbernecking
@no_rubbernecking 2 жыл бұрын
That would be a no.
@juliewatson2281
@juliewatson2281 2 жыл бұрын
You folks do realize the idiot with a supreme case of hubris, parked that yacht right offshore two special forces bases where 30,000 were to be there in a massive joint exercise among NATO, EU, + USA. WE’re talking here DELTA, SEALS, SAS, THE MILITARY ELITE OF THE WORLD. And you people think, oh, it’s just a regular yacht who decided to pull in for gas and take a wee lookey. The military would not have boarded , OR HELD ON TO THE DAMN THING FOR TWO WEEKS if it was only a simple mistake. Get with the program boys. The world has a psychopathic megalomaniac with designs to control the world sitting on its doorstep. Every damn one of you ought to be sweating it out. If he thought he could get away with using nukes,he would have done it by now. We Americans realize that. And we realize this man is egging on the world to see if we will make a misstep that triggers annihilation of a good part of the world. And all of you think you are not a part of his sick game? If this starts, the whole world loses. Not just the Ukraine, or the former eastern block nations. They’ve already played the weather war games, so we know what is coming from that direction. Take a look at the block that voted with Russia on sanctioning. Those are the ones you all need to be worried about. It is not business as usual any more. You boys with your toy boats are right in the middle f a war zone. And look at the number if these scampering off to “safe” harbors. Even Vladivostok has become the Pacific Riviera. Putin thought it would all be over in two weeks. That’s one thing Putin forgot, we Americans are mutts. We have relatives all around the world, some close kissing cousins, others, more like 10x removed, but they are relatives. We are not perfect, far from it, But we have grit and determination , And we protect our own.
@pattitinsley4899
@pattitinsley4899 2 жыл бұрын
Right? That blows my mind.
@madusan1
@madusan1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much to the channel and it's community/contributors for your reporting. Myself, a landlubber, is so appreciative to be kept appraised of the non-aggressive but more passive pressure that can be put on the ones to blame for this situation and lessen the effect on the Russian people. It is the Russian Government, Oligarchs and their collaboratives that are to blame. Please all be safe!!! Thank you from 🇨🇦!
@peterebel7899
@peterebel7899 2 жыл бұрын
If you enter a nation with a car you must be aware to declare the car's ownership. Why does Ragnar think this not to be valid for a ship?
@jamier7073
@jamier7073 2 жыл бұрын
Because you are ignorant of how these ships are owned that is why. They are primarily owned by companies owned by several other companies and few have a personal owner. This is like a company jet. It is not owned by the company owner but by the company and they are often leased or chartered to other people when the billionaires are not using them. To them it is a company car.
@nomansland120
@nomansland120 2 жыл бұрын
Well, they can surely provide ownership proof, but the owner will be a Maltese company, which is probably owned by another entity, which is owned by a third entity which again is owned somewhere else. When you finally find the last link, most likely a strawman will have been placed as the owner (on paper)
@aaronfahr9
@aaronfahr9 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamier7073 "Because you are ignorant...". That word has two meanings, you've demonstrated one of them.
@Zomby_Woof
@Zomby_Woof 2 жыл бұрын
@@nomansland120 Ownership proof isn't enough. Make them prove the vessel wasn't purchased with proceeds of criminal activity. If they can't prove that it wasn't bought with dirty money, it goes on the block
@johnmcmillen8263
@johnmcmillen8263 2 жыл бұрын
It is a strange and refreshing concept to hear of people (and a country) who are willing to forego cash to stand on the side justice and peace~~ Hip hip hooray for Norway!
@mbd6054
@mbd6054 2 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@jcdentonunatco
@jcdentonunatco 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure how seizing Russian citizens assets and putting the average Russian citizen onto poverty is helping stop the war. It's not like these people are responsible for the invasion, most Russians oppose it.
@basstrammel1322
@basstrammel1322 2 жыл бұрын
@@jcdentonunatco Not seized. No average russian citizen is put onto poverty. The goal with inconvening the billionaires and oligarchs is to turn them against Putin, as they have him on speed dial.
@SvenStp
@SvenStp 2 жыл бұрын
Guys you don't know what you are talking about. I live in a country whose citizens ware punished for their government conduct. THAT IS NOT THE PROPER AND HUMANE WAY! I was in sport and minding my own business when "ppl abroad decided" i will be punished every possible way , ruin my life until i lost all hope and joy in life so i go angry and attack my own government? You really think if Boris Johnson or whoever, start doing "bad stuff" that you will like if foreign forces start pressing you to the point you go mad? That is life ruined my friends, and we are talking about millions of INNOCENT lives here. And no, you can not tell me "what about the lives on the other side" because ITS NOT MY FAULT man! IT IS NOT MY FAULT !!! John, it is not your fault if Johnson killed children in Syria and i will NEVER PUNISH YOU MAN, NEVER!
@LadyDewBuild
@LadyDewBuild 2 жыл бұрын
@@SvenStp 'Their Government' key word is 'Their' - "...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it..." ~The US Declaration of Independence
@sirierieott5882
@sirierieott5882 2 жыл бұрын
If ever there was a bond villian boat, this is it!
@BoldRam
@BoldRam 2 жыл бұрын
Just get the real owner to come forward and identify themselves. If someone in Norway wants to sell them fuel no problem. Pay for fuel and go. If no-one will sell them fuel then that's their problem. Rent another fuel tanker to come in and help.
@markusboestfleisch2937
@markusboestfleisch2937 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a nice and brave decision of the people from Norway! We shall never surrender!
@Carz6
@Carz6 2 жыл бұрын
The crew can leave any time. They can catch a ferry back to the UK. As for the ship, the Norwegians are under no obligation to sell fuel to someone they don't want to sell to. Maybe whoever owns the boat can pay money to have fuel delivered to them from somewhere else. Not the Norwegians' problem.
@seeratlasdtyria4584
@seeratlasdtyria4584 2 жыл бұрын
If the 'owner' won't show up, prove he owns it, then Norway should consider the vessel 'abandoned' and thus subject to 'salvage' under the Maritime Law...I remember NO case that entitles an 'owner' to fail to prove ownership upon request by a maritime authority.
@AndyCutright
@AndyCutright 2 жыл бұрын
Not only should folks force someone to identify themselves while lacking any evidence apart from paranoia, these same folks should go further and subvert the law by declaring it abandoned? Is it lacking papers? No. Is it uninsured? No. Have they failed to pay port fees? Not as far as I know. Has the vessel or anyone aboard done anything illegal? No. Let's just go ahead and throw the law to the wind because maybe the owner is Russian.
@saber-jocky3436
@saber-jocky3436 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyCutright Well, I don't know about ships, but cars have these things called titles that spell out exactly who the owner is. If they don't know who the owner is, I would guess that it in fact does not have proper paperwork. Furthermore, the port authority can make any reasonable demand they want of any vessel in their jurisdiction. They are the de facto gatekeeper of that port.
@alicedanger
@alicedanger 2 жыл бұрын
@@saber-jocky3436 That’s not how these purchases are made. There is ownership paperwork, but the listed owner doesn't have to be a person; it can be a company. Massive purchases like yachts, land, other companies, and even cars are often done in the name of a holding, or shell, company - sometimes several layers of holding companies. Who owns that holding company is a completely different set of paperwork that someone asking for the boat's registration wouldn't be entitled to ask for. The paperwork for the boat is legal and accurate if it identities a holding company as the owner. This would allow the individual behind the purchase of the yacht (and the ultimate owner of the holding company) to remain anonymous, and compliant with their documentation and registration.
@AndyCutright
@AndyCutright 2 жыл бұрын
@@saber-jocky3436 No the port authorities can't do whatever they want. Putin invades Ukraine and y'all just want to suspend the law everywhere else as though Putin's actions justify whatever steps y'all wanna take. Unprincipled truly.
@hawkdsl
@hawkdsl 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyCutright Yea, the party is over... Sux for them. Strange about the law.. how it's different for the ones with the yachts, verses regular working people. These Russian guys are the beneficiaries of corruption, and broken laws themselves. They don't even live in Russia most of the time, having a freedom denied to the rest of the country. You should absolutely stick up for them.
@TinyScorpion44
@TinyScorpion44 2 жыл бұрын
I understand the frustration of the crew, but they're the ones who chose to accept contracts via shell company knowing full well that the boat was probably owned by someone shady. If you have to sign an NDA like they probably did and you "don't know" who is signing your paychecks, shit is clearly sketchy. Fuck around, find out. If they really wanted to, most of the crew could probably just fly back to Britain. I don't think a whole lot of Ukranians currently have that same luxury.
@chopperaxon6171
@chopperaxon6171 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Agreed
@G-ra-ha-m
@G-ra-ha-m 2 жыл бұрын
Slightly shady? What about everyone who works for Pfizer? Over 40,000 deaths and 1.6M serious injuries in Europe alone. Instead of focussing where you are told, on a man clearing out the Azov nazis, take a look closer to home, where your family and friends and being poisoned.
@outkast94
@outkast94 2 жыл бұрын
Total concur w/Andrea
@j.j.1064
@j.j.1064 2 жыл бұрын
@@G-ra-ha-m typical straw man trope. Introduce a debatable subject to defect the focus of the argument. So everyone concerned with trying to stop this war should park the action aside against the Russians until a spurious argument about Pfizer is settled? Meanwhile people are dying in their thousands. Forget Whataboutisim and stick to the issue and it's not Pfizer. (I've had three Pfizer jabs and I'm still alive.)
@londo776
@londo776 2 жыл бұрын
@@j.j.1064 same here
@Donald_Shaw
@Donald_Shaw 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for these updates. Keep up your diligent work.
@knotgood9077
@knotgood9077 2 жыл бұрын
TY for all your hard work and content contributions.
@tyeteames7192
@tyeteames7192 2 жыл бұрын
As Always. Thank you. You and your videos are intelligent, insightful, and honest. In other words...I think you totally rock. Looking forward to your upcoming informative updates.
@tomtillman
@tomtillman 2 жыл бұрын
The custom is to hide ownership to avoid liability. Looks like there's a little problem with that. So, everybody has to play by the rules that someone else created to avoid culpability in any situation? What if the owner is a criminal with criminal liabilities? The owner should be compelled to come forward, and prove ownership to the port authority of the port in which the vessel is docked. It is they who should decide whether there is an issue or not, regardless of the mechanisms designed to hide.
@basstrammel1322
@basstrammel1322 2 жыл бұрын
If you came up to my business and I didn't like you, I could refuse to serve you. The fuel supplier is using his right to not sell fuel to M/Y RAGNAR. Port authoity are not holding them back, and neither is any police or coast guard.
@G-ra-ha-m
@G-ra-ha-m 2 жыл бұрын
"What if the owner is a criminal with criminal liabilities?" Like destroying Iraq on a lie? Smashing up Libya, for no reason at all? Or bombing Yemen? Or small time - like Hunter Biden for robbing the ukrainians since 2014? Who exactly, are the criminals?
@G-ra-ha-m
@G-ra-ha-m 2 жыл бұрын
@@basstrammel1322 Didn't a Christian baker get prosecuted for refusing to make a wedding cake for gays? As long as you follow the narrative you'll be fine. But stand against the elite psychopaths, and you'll suffer.
@walkingstick6655
@walkingstick6655 2 жыл бұрын
@@basstrammel1322 I think that's correct, to some degree. There are degrees to which refusal of services can be warranted. It's their prerogative to not bunker, sell fuel. If you want to operate in a shady world of hiding ownership, you have to take the bad with the good. Whoever owns this yacht does not have any absolute right to service, under these circumstances.
@jonasstafsengeinarsen4984
@jonasstafsengeinarsen4984 2 жыл бұрын
@@G-ra-ha-m Pretty sure that would be a case on discrimination of a minority, and not even a bit related to this situation regarding fuel.
@boxbreaker4863
@boxbreaker4863 2 жыл бұрын
As a non-yacht owner, will never be able to be, so I love your knowledge, insight and wonderful commentary.
@hamletksquid2702
@hamletksquid2702 2 жыл бұрын
As a guy who's called a 16 ft skiff a "yacht", my main interest in big boats has always been in not getting swamped by their wake or forced out of the channel by a giant white chisel coming straight at me. Beautiful machines. I would expect vessels this big to be at least competently operated, I have more interest in that than in the fancy fittings.
@orso66
@orso66 2 жыл бұрын
My boat is smaller than their tenders, but it will always be a micro-super yacht to me.
@kerrilee501
@kerrilee501 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update on this. Not what I was expecting given the timing and location. Hopefully the crew are safe.
@MiniMu-2008
@MiniMu-2008 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Just started watching your videos! I’m learning so much. They really have been going under the radar for a long time.
@krihanek117
@krihanek117 2 жыл бұрын
There are no sanctions on this vessel. There should always be due process. Innocent until proven guilty.
@countmorbid3187
@countmorbid3187 2 жыл бұрын
Companies can decide who they sell to ... you gonna force them to sell fuel??
@vonakenyon7981
@vonakenyon7981 2 жыл бұрын
Innocent until proven guilty applies here in the US. I guarantee that if one of Putin's buddies (who are the only russians who can afford these yachts) came forward with ownership papers he better not go back to Russia. As far as I am concerned it was probably paid for with stolen money which means it belongs to the russian people.
@uhuraenterprise6372
@uhuraenterprise6372 2 жыл бұрын
@@countmorbid3187 Actually I would like to see Ken travel to Narvik stirring up shit with the local fuel dealers. Good luck with the Vikings😂
@countmorbid3187
@countmorbid3187 2 жыл бұрын
@@uhuraenterprise6372 Indeed 😂😂
@andyslater2320
@andyslater2320 2 жыл бұрын
The owner is guilty of not coming forward. Until then, detained. Sounds reasonable to me.
@otm646
@otm646 2 жыл бұрын
5:55 fuel consumption of the generators on board a vessel like that is trivial compared to the propulsion engine. You're looking at 50 gallons a day on the absolute high side. That boat can sit there for a month easy if it's at only 10% fuel capacity now. She holds 10,000 gallons full.
@justayoutuber1906
@justayoutuber1906 2 жыл бұрын
2 gallons of fuel per hour? That is small generator.
@otm646
@otm646 2 жыл бұрын
@@justayoutuber1906 A diesel generator can produce 10 horsepower hour per gallon of fuel. That gives you about 10-18 kW continuous. That's enough to keep the basic systems function. You don't need to run the water maker you only need to run limited HVAC.
@wellcraft19
@wellcraft19 2 жыл бұрын
She holds well over 200,000 gallons full. She'll be fine at that dock for a very long time.
@csjrogerson2377
@csjrogerson2377 2 жыл бұрын
You know nothing about super yachts. A 68m vessel will be on 250KW generator. She might be able to use a 125KW on quiet days or night time. Fuel consumption will vary with load, but about 10-20 gals/hr. So about 250-500 gals per day. She will hold at least 25,000 gal (imp) of fuel.
@gfrizzleshizzlemanizzle
@gfrizzleshizzlemanizzle 2 жыл бұрын
Stop talking in Imperial you antiquated fools. This is not 1943.
@guenthermichaels5303
@guenthermichaels5303 2 жыл бұрын
This " ship " was converted to an Explorer ship. Note there is no Fairing on the hull. This is a tough workhorse with luxury accommodations. If you go to David's channel " Yachts for Sale ". There is a complete tour of Ragnar at the shipyard in the Netherlands. There are 3 Videos over 2 years " Extraordinary Icon "
@petesmith9472
@petesmith9472 2 жыл бұрын
There is an Australian billionaire who has a similar conversion…I think it’s Arctic P . It must be a popular platform for this kind of thing
@guenthermichaels5303
@guenthermichaels5303 2 жыл бұрын
@@petesmith9472 found it, interesting, older. Deep sea ocean going salvage tug.
@hl236
@hl236 2 жыл бұрын
Never seen a yacht like it. I am in love with its character and utilitarian exterior. The English pub inspired rooms are gorgeous.
@PhilbyFavourites
@PhilbyFavourites 2 жыл бұрын
@@hl236 you obviously haven’t been into an English pub have you…. Sovereigns near the Portsmouth Ferry Terminal is a pub - wall to wall Sky TV screens and every single one is in your line of sight. Bloody annoying doesn’t cover it. So before you dream at the wonderment of an English Pub be very aware they don’t all look like they fall out of the screen of Midsomer Murders…
@kenholt8297
@kenholt8297 2 жыл бұрын
NO it wasn't! The ship "was" a former exploration ship converted to a luxury super yacht!
@markstonham3395
@markstonham3395 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I think the ship should be held until they can identify who the owner is. If no sanctions let them go.
@randomchance7796
@randomchance7796 2 жыл бұрын
It's been long enough that's odd that the owner hasn't made a call or email or any contact apparently.
@idanceforpennies281
@idanceforpennies281 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. How hard is it to prove you are *not* a Russian oligarch? I would have thought that's pretty easy. Provided you actually aren't one of course.
@Chris-ou4ej
@Chris-ou4ej 2 жыл бұрын
@@idanceforpennies281 That is ridiculously stupid precedent to set "You got to prove a negative". The authorities should have to prove THEY ARE a Russian Oligarch, else continue as normal. Please prove you are not the man who killed X on Jan 02, 2005. See how stupid it is?
@no_rubbernecking
@no_rubbernecking 2 жыл бұрын
Why shouldn't there be sanctions for a wealthy KGB officer with current ties to putin, who wants to go globe trotting?
@markstonham3395
@markstonham3395 2 жыл бұрын
@@idanceforpennies281 The wealthy LOVE to hide their money so they don't have to pay taxes... Might be cheaper to let the boat go.
@williamdrijver4141
@williamdrijver4141 2 жыл бұрын
"They can row home. Or use sails" hahahaha 🙂 Well done Norwegians!
@neilabernath5862
@neilabernath5862 2 жыл бұрын
That was my favorite part of the video.
@uhuraenterprise6372
@uhuraenterprise6372 2 жыл бұрын
They just don't care about the profit they lose, their statement's worth more
@RayMrRobert
@RayMrRobert 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your updates. I watch every day and really appreciate your reporting.
@pm1104
@pm1104 2 жыл бұрын
I think the legal owner and nationality needs to be known & proved before any fuel is delivered ….!
@csjrogerson2377
@csjrogerson2377 2 жыл бұрын
The legal owner is the one written as the owner/director of the company that owns the yacht. You'll never see the beneficial owner listed anywhere as anything.
@5thGenNativeTexan
@5thGenNativeTexan 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure the "legal" owner is a shell company, which is why Arcon Yachts feels justified in saying Vladimir Strzhalkovsky is not the owner. But the reality is that given some of the evidence, he's most like the money behind the paper title. The mere fact that the "real" owner hasn't stepped up is evidence itself. No Russian oligarch wants to step out of the country at the moment, nor let any of their hidden assets be known.
@greenidguy9292
@greenidguy9292 2 жыл бұрын
@@csjrogerson2377 Then no fuel if the won’t show who is the true owner…pretty simple.
@jeffb.140
@jeffb.140 2 жыл бұрын
@@greenidguy9292 Which is plain terrorism
@olivegrove2615
@olivegrove2615 2 жыл бұрын
The Kremlin has bought plenty of Brits in the past also so who's the real owner? FYI the Kremlin has a rule, once KGB always KGB (former KGB doesn't exist). The employees chose to work on that yacht, I have chosen not to work for certain people & companies due to their "possible axtions" so it's a case of they made a choice they can make a choice to walk or stay.
@mop2254
@mop2254 2 жыл бұрын
Many Brits are extremely greedy and will sell out their nation for money. Look at London.
@xpusostomos
@xpusostomos 2 жыл бұрын
Well... they chose to work there before the war, before all this blew up, and possibly without even knowing the true owner.
@olivegrove2615
@olivegrove2615 2 жыл бұрын
@@xpusostomos yes chose & I've chosen to not work for businesses that didn't add up (war or no war).
@mbperformance9794
@mbperformance9794 2 жыл бұрын
THX ! For all the hard work !! Videos are great info !
@jonathanohagan1349
@jonathanohagan1349 2 жыл бұрын
i click on you about three weeks ago, now i check regularly to see whats going on. What a shady world yachts are!!!, oh and i subscribed
@coop_coop007
@coop_coop007 2 жыл бұрын
Citizen journalism at its best, no B.S. or made up conjecture, fantastic. Thank you.
@marklengal9990
@marklengal9990 2 жыл бұрын
Why is it such a secret about yacht owners? Not just Russian but the whole industry.
@twitherspoon8954
@twitherspoon8954 2 жыл бұрын
Own nothing, control everything.
@jazldazl9193
@jazldazl9193 2 жыл бұрын
So they can hide massive wealth from their ex-wives
@jaquigreenlees
@jaquigreenlees 2 жыл бұрын
The same reason celebrities don't advertise where they are. Most of the large yacht owners are celebrities of some sort and need to worry about nutbars stalking them or their families.
@YouTube_can_ESAD
@YouTube_can_ESAD 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I’m not going to lie, I love that Yacht. Wish I had the resources to own an expedition yacht like this and sponsor Nat Geo projects. Stunning ship, put it to better use… F’ these Oligarchs.
@sensei-lr4cj
@sensei-lr4cj 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobjuniel8683 oligarchs are not capitalist. They bought state assets for cheap after the fall of the USSR using their political positions. They literally order hits and executions in the aluminium war, they're practically mobsters who happen to be politicians. Even the famous Roman Abramovich left his position as Governor of Chukotka in Siberia 'cause he literally does not give a shit about his constituents.
@breathofyahmosthigheliyohi1268
@breathofyahmosthigheliyohi1268 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobjuniel8683 'Cheap labour', what cheap? they should be paid milions a month? They should be happy with what they have.
@ASpiro-c4l
@ASpiro-c4l 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobjuniel8683 what "facts" are there that Zelensky's troops were murdering Russians?? Your reply is pure Russian propaganda.
@ASpiro-c4l
@ASpiro-c4l 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobjuniel8683 putin started this war. and you think this war is to stop Russia selling oil and gas to Europe, WHY would putin start a war to do that??? Look up russia and mind control, it seems you have been brainwashed dear chap, I hope you get well soon
@ASpiro-c4l
@ASpiro-c4l 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobjuniel8683 is that why Biden waived sanctions on the company behind Russia's Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline to Germany? YOU need to do your research, putin can pull out of this war right now, but he is so afraid of democracy he won't. Zelensky is jewish, he had family killed by the nazis, he isn't funding them. Why does putin have all media shutdown??? because he doesnt want people like you to know the truth. He is a war criminal.
@c.rittenhouse6647
@c.rittenhouse6647 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve really enjoyed all of your recent videos. Great job and thank you.
@johngori9477
@johngori9477 2 жыл бұрын
So if the Norwegian government boarded it and has examined the papers why can't the government settle the question of who actually owns the vessel? The management company says it isn't owned by a Russian. The Norwegian government should now know if that is true. It is possible the fuel companies are acting based on bogus information. Lets at least make sure people are acting on facts, not rumor.
@vonnikon
@vonnikon 2 жыл бұрын
It is probably owned by some shell company in the Caymans. Which in turn is owned by a shell company in Bermuda. The question "Who is the owner?" can have many answers.
@johngori9477
@johngori9477 2 жыл бұрын
@@vonnikon Maybe Yachts are different, but when the Navy had me boarding merchant ships we were ALWAYS able to identify the actual owner through all the layers of holding companies. The ships' masters were usually very obliging because they wanted to get matters resolved and have us leave so they could get on with their voyage. They'd open the safe (or locking file cabinet) and pull out the ship's documents (ownership, registration, safety inspections, crew licenses, etc.) and lay them out in the Captain's stateroom for examination. We'd pass the info by radio to our ship who would verify it by satellite link to make sure the papers were valid. That was a lot of years ago, so I assume the technology is at least as good today. Hence my curiosity about why the Norwegian military/government wouldn't be able to know who the ultimate owner is after they stopped and searched the vessel.
@Spacey7
@Spacey7 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. Really enjoy watching them & learning about these vessels. ✌️😊
@kjell206
@kjell206 2 жыл бұрын
Narvik know very well what war is, some of the big battles in ww2 took place in and around Narvik , so i guess getting any supplies for a oligark owned boat anywhere up north, or anywhere in Norway these days will be a very hard task
@dscott130
@dscott130 2 жыл бұрын
I love these news videos! Thanks! 💕
@oceaninmotion8910
@oceaninmotion8910 2 жыл бұрын
"No shoes no shirt no service." Norway business has the right to refuse service to anyone if it is like the States. With the heart break in Ukraine I understand businesses being very cautious. Can you personally guarantee the owner?
@covidhoax7646
@covidhoax7646 2 жыл бұрын
Norway is not like the States.
@AB-vm2nz
@AB-vm2nz 2 жыл бұрын
… so, refuse service to anyone… Maybe next time we add - skin color - religion - gender… one of the other 99 - …
@akcandlemaker8786
@akcandlemaker8786 2 жыл бұрын
@@AB-vm2nz If they want to...it's their business, Karen. 🤯
@tunahxushi4669
@tunahxushi4669 2 жыл бұрын
I was actually just thinking of the exact same slogan you read my mind. No shirt, no shoes, blood money? no way, no service...
@elliotmorin5560
@elliotmorin5560 2 жыл бұрын
You literally do not have the right to deny service in the USA for any reason. Have you forgotten the civil rights act? How stupid can you possibly be?
@markjenkins1986
@markjenkins1986 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your content its much appreciated... looking on outskirts of a situation often gives you a better understanding of the centre.. Keep it going for a God !!!
@loreneRa
@loreneRa 2 жыл бұрын
As was pointed out before, the ship crew is working for the owner. The ship is the extension of the owner, not the crew. Good move, Norway.
@casual9982
@casual9982 2 жыл бұрын
Captain Rob made a valid point about the Russian fishing vessels, however I agree with the decision to deny fuel. Small sacrifice, the crew will get beyond this.
@5thGenNativeTexan
@5thGenNativeTexan 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, I have nothing against the Russian people, or the Russian fishing vessels just trying to make a living. But a mega exploration vessel that more likely than not is owned by a Putin crony , I've got no qualms in letting it sit there and gather barnacles.
@JoseMVelazquez
@JoseMVelazquez 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not so sure it is a valid point. As far as I understand russian food industry (that includes fishing) is not subject to sanctions so any company/country is free to do business with any russian company in that industry. Russian oligarchs are though (some of them), so if there is suspicion or is unclear who the real owner is then companies can choose not to sell them any fuel until the matter is resolved.
@saber-jocky3436
@saber-jocky3436 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoseMVelazquez Free to do business with does not mean they have to do business with. Those businesses have made a conscious decision to not. It's well within their right to refuse service.
@JoseMVelazquez
@JoseMVelazquez 2 жыл бұрын
@@saber-jocky3436 That's my point. They sell fuel to the fishing vessels because they are not on the sanctions list so they are free to do business with them if they so choose, but they also have every right to refuse service to luxury yachts for any reason they choose, either waiting to get more information on the owners or just because.
@mr.joshuah1412
@mr.joshuah1412 2 жыл бұрын
People cant go around stealing sht because they don't like Putin.....
@thomasridley8675
@thomasridley8675 2 жыл бұрын
The ship can rot at the pier for all I care. As far as the crew. They knew who they signed on with. So I have little sympathy for them.
@colin5577
@colin5577 2 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing Sailing Yacht A at anchor off Formantera 4 or 5 years ago. Spectacular looking vessel. I subsequently read in local papers during my holiday that a delegation from a town in Siberia where the yacht’s owner (Melnichenko) owned the regional utilities had flown to Spain and were traipsing up and down the coast looking for him to try to negotiate that he turn the water (and/or power) back on at home. He was squeezing locals for higher rates, I think, and had restricted supply. The delegation even approached the Royal family in Monaco begging them to intercede should Melnichenko turn up at an engagement there. A charming guy by all accounts. Just lovely. Sat in his floating palace like a Bond villain on the back of some of the poorest people in the Northern Hemisphere. Never mind ushering back the glory days of the USSR, Putin has done fabulous job of ushering back the days of the Tsars.
@elliotmorin5560
@elliotmorin5560 2 жыл бұрын
That all sounds terrible. Hopefully a responsible government will conduct an actual investigation and charge him with an actual fucking crime. Instead we have moral posturing, where idiotic western governments seize private property absent even an allegation of criminal activity because of an alleged association with a man they must associate with to do business in their country.
@MyChilepepper
@MyChilepepper 2 жыл бұрын
He should’ve been anchoring off the Norilsk shore enjoying the beautiful toxic scenery instead.
@georgielancaster1356
@georgielancaster1356 2 жыл бұрын
If it does belong to that Russian chap, I hope it isn't released until he shows how he got the money to buy the boat, and the taxes he paid that same year or more. In fact, maybe a forensic accountant? investigate income from age first working, to establish if yacht bought with clean money. If not, maybe turn over to local government, to accomodate refugees or rented out and income used to buy homes to accomodate refugees.
@tunahxushi4669
@tunahxushi4669 2 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable story, literally makes me want to cry. People in Siberia can't afford water and power because of a billionaires greed.
@maciejguzek3442
@maciejguzek3442 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgielancaster1356 So you want him to prove that transactions dating back 10 years or more were legit, and if you don't like his proof than you will consider them not legit. lol. I do understand your moral stance and I also wish there was no fortunes made by dishonest deals between corrupt officials and these crooks called 'oligarchs'! But it is not realistic that the whole idea can work in the way that you just described. If yachts are arrested, it's only because of specific sanctions, not because someone has a wet dream that money stolen 15 years ago should be paid back. What if Russia 'arrested' private property of some US or European crooks and told them they have to prove that they are honest, you also like this idea?
@marcuscoquer5958
@marcuscoquer5958 2 жыл бұрын
If the crew are getting paid and allowed on and off the boat then I see no issues for them. Solar panels are readily available, as are leisure batteries and controllers. Only issue I can think of is pumps. Ownership loopholes should not be allowed so tough luck.
@glenpeters955
@glenpeters955 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate all the information and updates on what is happening to these oligarch's toys. I am curious about their luxury properties, is there a similar channel that gives the same type of information but about property not yachts ?? Thanks again for all the updates.
@campingboy9213
@campingboy9213 2 жыл бұрын
Great coverage. Is there any long term consequences to a captain that turns off their AIS? If it's maritime law, what enforcement is there?
@basstrammel1322
@basstrammel1322 2 жыл бұрын
It would be very easy to manufacture a reason they turned it off.
@sambassil7825
@sambassil7825 2 жыл бұрын
Navies of the world should patrol the seas and sink, warn ships who turn off their devices then sink them
@basstrammel1322
@basstrammel1322 2 жыл бұрын
@@sambassil7825 What an enviromental disaster that would be.
@JeepCherokeeful
@JeepCherokeeful 2 жыл бұрын
Only a small amount of fuel is necessary to run generators. Deliver fuel every other day, for example.
@oleplanthafer7034
@oleplanthafer7034 2 жыл бұрын
Remember that this is the boat that has been actively accused of pranks like professionally cutting transatlantic wires outside of Norway and also wreaking havoc in the Irish Sea before the invasion. That's not a toy, that's a tool!
@Make-Asylums-Great-Again
@Make-Asylums-Great-Again 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks God it was done professionally!
@jackbaker7232
@jackbaker7232 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you read about these pranks?
@skinwalker_
@skinwalker_ 2 жыл бұрын
It should say where it is until the real owner is identified. If in doubt keep it locked up. I am impressed with the actions taken by the Norwegian people on this.
@NatEff3ct
@NatEff3ct 2 жыл бұрын
Umm lol what? No this is a violation of privacy and human rights
@dracolique
@dracolique 2 жыл бұрын
@@NatEff3ct Human rights now include the right to sail your superyacht into foreign ports while your government commits atrocities? Interesting. "Human rights" sure have been expanded recently, it seems.
@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491
@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491 2 жыл бұрын
@@dracolique aaahh those soviet ultta rich were petty criminals let out of jail by a sovivampire... and put in chaege of confiscated industries. "communism" is not "sharing".
@johan.ohgren
@johan.ohgren 2 жыл бұрын
@@NatEff3ct You should read up on what the Human Rights actually are..
@benghazi4216
@benghazi4216 2 жыл бұрын
@@NatEff3ct That's an impressive level of BS I must say.
@MrLanto2
@MrLanto2 2 жыл бұрын
" They can row home" Hahaha What a legend!
@uhuraenterprise6372
@uhuraenterprise6372 2 жыл бұрын
Row like Vikings lol
@jeeprose4712
@jeeprose4712 2 жыл бұрын
That house boat can sit there until the true owner is identified. As for the crew, they can fly home or walk. Whatever is convenient for them.
@roscoau
@roscoau 2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that military was involved with Ragnar. There's more to the story.
@johnlong384
@johnlong384 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again and, as far as I'm concerned, send the crew home to England and keep the Russian vessel locked up on chains!
@ruiferreira6578
@ruiferreira6578 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry if the crew doesn't have fuel or electricity or both. Maybe they want to trade positions with some people in Mariupol. That would be great!
@breathofyahmosthigheliyohi1268
@breathofyahmosthigheliyohi1268 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao not their problem, its the problem of ukraine/nato and russia. Gonna use the same thing on you, maybe stop using internet? people in africa have no houses and acess to internet, maybe trade positions, that would be great!
@ruiferreira6578
@ruiferreira6578 2 жыл бұрын
@@breathofyahmosthigheliyohi1268 when was it the last time you here in Africa? Do you think people still live in trees? And if it wasn't because of the war in Ukraine that they left the boat, why was it? And no, I don't want to trade positions with any one. I leave in a country with free education and health, with full coverage of fast internet, paid parental leave, paid 30 days of vacations, and a national retirement plan. I just wish you could have the same... Have a nice weekend Si
@weirdo165
@weirdo165 2 жыл бұрын
They can leave the boat and catch a flight home, they bloody well know who they're working for. Kudos to the Norwegians for not backing down!
@janemarett1885
@janemarett1885 2 жыл бұрын
Who is the real owner ? That needs a answer, wether the crew is English , doesn’t come into this situation. Why the owner won’t reveal his or her identity is suspicious.
@Miata822
@Miata822 2 жыл бұрын
I admire the Norwegian businesses who took it on themselves to make the call on Ragnar. Sometimes governments are too slow and careful about making sure their paperwork is sorted. I say "too slow", but it is good that our governments work under the rule of law. Still, if the point is to put pressure on russian oligarchs, refusing to do business with anonymous parties who appear to be Russian oligarchs is completely justified. If the owner is innocent as a lily it would be easy enough for them to verify their ownership.
@henrik1743
@henrik1743 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. In sweden our politicians didn't want to bann russian oil tankers coming in to our ports, so the ports themselves decided to bann them and not load / unload receive them etc. However this takes affect the 28th of March and we have a russian tanker in swedish port now in Stillerydshamnen in Karlstad and one more coming on it's way "which they can't stop" (lmao).
@StormyDog
@StormyDog 2 жыл бұрын
@@henrik1743 You need some new politicians, but that's a universal problem. They all stark to stink after a few years.
@chucktx5957
@chucktx5957 2 жыл бұрын
Easy. Just have the non-Russian owner show up & prove he’s the beneficial owner. NP.
@cowbanchalam9725
@cowbanchalam9725 2 жыл бұрын
Their pre-requisite would be "don't tell the taxman"
@covidhoax7646
@covidhoax7646 2 жыл бұрын
Why does anybody have to prove anything?
@jcdentonunatco
@jcdentonunatco 2 жыл бұрын
Why do they need to be non Russian? Has the owner even committed a crime? I've got no love for Russian CEOs but seizing people's assets without convicting them of a crime is illegal. Putin started this war, not the people of Russia, of whom the vast majority oppose Putin's actions. Imagine if China just started seizing Elon Musk or Bill Gates assets without even a trial.
@notroll1279
@notroll1279 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like oligarchs - but that's not how rights and law work.
@visionist7
@visionist7 2 жыл бұрын
And then he would sue the yard into irrelevance I doubt the yard wants that
@markbradley7505
@markbradley7505 2 жыл бұрын
I love all this detective work
@dave633
@dave633 2 жыл бұрын
Regardless of owner, or crew, it is surely the decision of the fuel providers to choose who they sell to.
@user-jy3zl2vp4b
@user-jy3zl2vp4b 2 жыл бұрын
And yet it is ironic that their enemy is stuck and has to stay near them. A new take on "keep your friends close and your enemies closer."
@sonnybradford8435
@sonnybradford8435 2 жыл бұрын
Good work, all. May the proceeds be used wisely.
@Indoor-Cyling-Revolution
@Indoor-Cyling-Revolution 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for your prolific postings. I didn’t know if you’re still doing question and answer, as the last one appears to have been several months ago. But if you do, (excuse my ignorance), since I am new to the whole super yacht thing, and have never watched “below decks“, I was wondering if you could explain the hierarchy on the boat in your next Q&a. I guess the lowest wrung is deckhand, but as it moves up, what are the different levels and what are their responsibilities… Obviously all the way up to captain. I hope it’s not too involved of a question, but I would really appreciate the knowledge.
@palmtreesandsand1793
@palmtreesandsand1793 2 жыл бұрын
You can also Google it.
@Indoor-Cyling-Revolution
@Indoor-Cyling-Revolution 2 жыл бұрын
@@palmtreesandsand1793 I did, but there doesn’t seem to be anything specific to super yachts. I got a lot of information on cruise ships sailing vessels… It seems to be all over the place, but super yachts are kind of unique so I was hoping he could shed some light on it.
@alhubb66
@alhubb66 2 жыл бұрын
Search his videos… he answered all of those questions in previous videos.
@Toaster-v1z
@Toaster-v1z 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, good job keeping track of all this stuff. A+.
@edvin61
@edvin61 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your fokus on Norwegian waters. The owner can rent a big generator to supply the ship. or pay for electricity. Peaceful fishermen from Russia get all help here in Norway.
@michaelrowlands1448
@michaelrowlands1448 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic and informative videos and have been a long time subscriber, keep up the excellent service. What will happen to these super yacht’s being not used/ maintained for so long. I have no compassion for their owners (and I doubt if any one else has either, especially the Ukrainian people) fee’s for moorings etc will have to be paid as the agents will get no mates rates. Time will tell
@ChevronTango
@ChevronTango 2 жыл бұрын
A russian fisherman just trying to feed his family can definitely have fuel. The war wasn't started by him. An oligarch with ties to Putin though... not a fair comparison at all mr captain. Don't confuse Putin, with Russia as a whole
@kauske
@kauske 2 жыл бұрын
Big agree, there's a difference between a vessel catching food and a billionaire's toy. No one will starve from those yachts being detained.
@warpedweirdo
@warpedweirdo 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Matt-yg8ub This is no more discriminatory than you or I refusing to do business with a some hotel or another solely on the basis of reviews on Yelp. There are legitimate reasons to be extremely cautious about doing business with the mysterious owner of this yacht. So long as he / she isn't Russian, the owner of the yacht has a simple choice: reveal his identity and get fuel, or remain anonymous and get no fuel. The crew have a choice: stay with the yacht and be paid, or go home. Your attempt to imply that refusal to sell fuel in this situation is somehow demonstrative of the attitudes and beliefs underlying racism and prejudice is offensive, and reveals that *you* likely don't take fairness and equality seriously.
@StormyDog
@StormyDog 2 жыл бұрын
The war wasn't started by the dead Ukrainian women and children either. Let the russians fish in russian waters.
@kauske
@kauske 2 жыл бұрын
@@StormyDog Yes, let's punish the Russian people who openly disapprove of Putin and are being locked up in droves just for speaking out against him, by starving them; such an excellent plan. /s
@alhubb66
@alhubb66 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the hard work!
@TheOUboy
@TheOUboy 2 жыл бұрын
From the captains response he did admit the yacht is Russian owned, which is enough to make people not want to supply them. I wonder is provisioners and other companies will start to deny service to Russian yachts.
@tfhmobil
@tfhmobil 2 жыл бұрын
+40 years ago, the USSR, East German, “fishing trawlers” was to be found even on Tyne River. (and everywhere else) I was there for months, but never saw those “fishing trawlers” go fishing any fish, but they had all kinds of electronics running, even their sonar, every time a British navy ship was passing. It’s very hard to believe Russian “Super yachts” doesn’t serve a similar purpose. I’m quite sure those vessels didn’t find anything of importance 40 years ago, but they was annoying and downright a harassment, when they pinged their sonar. Those “Super yachts” need to be arrested, and the bill for having them under arrest, sent to the owner. If not paid, then those vessels could be auctioned locally for scrap. Normal procedure on a normal yacht, there’s no reason to go specially soft, because it’s a Russian owned “Super yacht”. I’m sorry for the crew, as they probably loose their salary and tickets home, but that’s not new to a seaman.
@rommel5241
@rommel5241 2 жыл бұрын
I feel for the crew but to affect change you have to induce pressure from every angle. While the crew may be hit financially, it is much less of an impact then the lives that are being lost in the Ukraine.
@haraldwentzel8861
@haraldwentzel8861 2 жыл бұрын
Right. If you working on a russian vessel just for money ,thats life
@markdoldon8852
@markdoldon8852 2 жыл бұрын
Thats true, but if it's not their fault, is it fair to punish them?
@johncheresna
@johncheresna 2 жыл бұрын
I do not know how or why it is so difficult for the true owners to come forward. Even if it done discreetly to the appropriate authorities. Otherwize, it would seem, they have something to hide. IMHO. edit BTW thanks for your work s always.
@dougle03
@dougle03 2 жыл бұрын
If everything is above board (pun intended) then the owner should have no problems showing the money trail to prove rights... If they can't, they forfeit the asset... Nowhere to hide for illicit cash...
@G-ra-ha-m
@G-ra-ha-m 2 жыл бұрын
" the appropriate authorities". Most, if now all governments, councils and authorities are plain DUNs registered corporations today. Go to Dun and Bradstreet and type in the name of your state or council. The one you pay taxes too. Then you'll see they are a simple company, and have no true authority. It will probably only be a few years old too..
@timwilson1339
@timwilson1339 2 жыл бұрын
A mega Yacht couldn't look more Russian Bond Villain than Ragnar.
@uhuraenterprise6372
@uhuraenterprise6372 2 жыл бұрын
It's name though..steems from Scandinavia
@stevet647
@stevet647 2 жыл бұрын
The Crew has nothing to do with this a company is not willing to sell fuel to a vessel of unknown or unconfirmed ownership. Happens with many services wanting to guarantee who they chase for Payment. Obvious soloution is for the real owner to stand up, prove their ownership and get the vessel fueled. If they cannot or will not then it is likely the ownership is Russian and they would be unable to purchase fuel.
@randomchance7796
@randomchance7796 2 жыл бұрын
The crew can also leave and go to work on other yachts or go back home. They're not stuck.
@prjroberts
@prjroberts 2 жыл бұрын
While choosing to hide the how the wealth came about, I am very happy to see this. Until a full audit showing exactly where the wealth was created, whether it's the boat, or company, then that boat and any others should stay.
@markdoldon8852
@markdoldon8852 2 жыл бұрын
Again, no ship owner has any duty to reveal the source of his wealth. When we're talking this level of wealth, it's virtually impossible to track it down anyway, especially without the assistance of Russian authorities.
@wilderbeestmcc6539
@wilderbeestmcc6539 2 жыл бұрын
Your getting better with your briefings theses days, they’re a lot more succinct. Thank you for you channel, it’s very interesting for even a layman like me….
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