Surface Pro X Full Review: How I Use | What I Like/Don't Like

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@WycliffStudios
@WycliffStudios 4 жыл бұрын
From the day I bought my first Surface device I’ve been hooked onto your channel. A quality channel with quality reviews. Fantastic work sir.
@jiratkwin
@jiratkwin 4 жыл бұрын
Good Review on sharing many open different angle views. ... My own experiences using 2 weeks Surface Pro X, and MS Surface Pro 7 core I 5 Before having MS Surface Pro X , I bought SF pro 7, it is working well and fast. After 2-3 weeks, I had to buy another one computer, I had to give SF pro 7 to my college to work continue 1 week for urgent adhoc many reports requested by customer. Then I have to buy another surface for my parallel works on presenting, office and web browsing, traveling several places. when I saw SF Pro X firstly open in Microsoft Big Event and later in the MS shop seller, I was very impressed on very nice improved design and functions of MS Surface Pro X. Design look the best among the nowadays tablet, and smart ultra traveling notebook . 13” screen is good for views. Quality of screen and sound and video were much improved than older pro version. So, I have gone through studying a lot from Surface Pro X reviews, both on their MS own website and third opinions. Most of reviewers, youtubers focused only performance and limitation on new ARM processor, those said many problems on negative about Surface pro X. So I think, I should try and explore more details by myself on this Product, because... I don't want to have 2 surface similar. I wanna try different. And I believe inner inside that, "MS team must have some good reasons to launch something new by new chipset with this ARM". There should be reason good enough to go for ARM with this product. I like thing about starting of AI feature on this SQ1 chip. “After hearing other, better to try with your own experiences.” ... Then have to do my own test, I went to the seller Shop to do the test. I bring my SSD HD data containing many of files, that i regularly use to do my own real test at Surface Pro X seller shop spending almost 1-2 hours for all tests. I am the one who usually do the works on MS office. I do reports with MS word, one file size could be more than 100 MB. At the same time I would do multiple tasks, opening Excel sheet picking up several data financial and analysis technical data several sheet calculating. Moreover , I am doing at the same time opening 10-15 pages pdf file parallel with doing slide presentation with power point that containing tons of high definition of pictures and videos. While doing all above I am opening many windows of web browsers, doing search internet data. One can be email on gmail, one is opening youtube music for relaxing, anothor one could be working on email, another one monitoring stock and gold price, ready to buy and sell. While I am testing, I open my presentation slide made of MS power point, that is quite big size of 400 MB. With lot of HD pic and Video embed on it to test the severe case. All of working windows, I open through my SSD HD connected via USB C port because Testing SF Pro x at the shop is demo machine. All that programs and open windows as mentions above on test are working very well. While doing all many tasks on Pro X as all above I mentioned, opening 100 MB with MS word doing report, opening youtube 4 K, opening several files (excel, pdf documents, edge browsers surfing more than 10 pages web browsing ) to copy data to creating report, and also at the same time doing that quite big size 400 MB slide presentation. Result is that, MS Surface pro X is working smooth without any problem, working fast, honestly to say that it is slower a bit comparing to surface pro 7 core i5 256 RAM, as I said, the one I gave to my college for working on writing reporting . (I would say that Microsoft Pro X, at the shop, is the one that skilled seller just update lasted programs, software and firmware, I guess many things and problems were fixed.) Web browsing and Movie on KZbin are working very well with impressive quality. See clear on big screen, Nice details with full High Definition, Resolution is almost 4 K movies with fine and smooth through my eyes. . The sound and movie are showing on Surface Pro X are very IMPRESSIVE. The sound is not as good as iPad Pro , but it is really good enough to enjoy the entertainment. The outlook of SF Pro X design is very impressive, pretty much beautiful. The handling, carrying Surface Pro x is very suited for traveling people like me, while I am going out to give lecture and consulting to students and customers. Due to the working style and my age, I don't mind much about gaming performance, because I do not have much time left for games. I used to be a game lover when I was young, but after coming to some old age, I gradually fade off it. Photos and Videos I usually take and work simply by iphone and ipad. So Adobe Photoshop and A Illustrator or A Premiere were never used on this Surface. But heard that in a few months, Adobe team is working on to develop those photo apps to be compatible on ARM. MS Edge and Edge Canery developed for ARM is working very smooth and fast. So that is enough support for me to choose this computer, MS SF PRO X. So, I made decision to buy Surface PRO X. New MS PEN is used for many comfort functions. It is really work for noting, drawing very good ergonomic and smooth use. After buying, This MS Surface Pro X had been tested, opening files, working all day and night. Even I take rest sleeping, but computer had to be opened , because continuing work on many data files. This SF had to keep running open to finish more than 3 reports, the Due Diligence reports for customer in 2 weeks. Each report size is more than 60-90 MB and has more than 100 pages. So the long time test had proven its reliability and stability. I would say this Surface Pro X is very best suited for me. Nice Design, very lightweight, look smart when presenting work to customerss, Good for web surfing and browsing data, watching movies in KZbin. ... People use different computers for their different purposes and experiences, select the one that fit to you. I do like one the Pro X machine. When it is working such a long time, it is notices that this machine is not as heat as SF pro 7 , I think because of lower power (watt) used in ARM processor. All above mentioned, I do love this MS Surface Pro X. Its designs, functions, and features are very fascinating one.
@filoniz
@filoniz 4 жыл бұрын
That is a longest comment I have ever seen on KZbin.
@niradshah2951
@niradshah2951 4 жыл бұрын
Very thorough review - and refreshing to read a review from someone who uses the X for work in a similar manner to myself - Plenty of files open at the same time and able to work seamlessly - thanks
@whalewillie
@whalewillie 4 жыл бұрын
amazing insights(information beyond what most can see!)
@RelojoAsenime
@RelojoAsenime 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@emerson-sheaapril8555
@emerson-sheaapril8555 4 жыл бұрын
Best review I have ever read! Thank you. I am so glad you brought the "work first" attitude.
@CJ3WT
@CJ3WT 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review. Everyone else complains about two specific apps instead of going into detail and actually being hands on and showing examples on it
@futuredarknight88
@futuredarknight88 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely THE BEST review on youtube. Very informative with expertise. I kept debating on whether I should upgrade a few things with my income tax such as moving up to a note 10 + from my regular note 10 and from a Surface Pro 5 with LTE to a Surface Pro X and whether or not I should get a surface go or wait for surface go 2. I like to have a device that can do most if not all (office work, video and photo editing) without much compromise. I think i will have to pass on the pro x and stick to my pro 5 LTE. I may get a surface go as a secondary device because of the form factor (i.e. for work or meetings) not sure. I like the form factor of the new slim pen so I may purchase that also. Still debating on getting a note 10 + or not. Anyway, thanks for this review it was really helpful and look forward to more of your videos I love them so much!
@art0507
@art0507 4 жыл бұрын
It's actually a really good review, instead of just trashing Pro X like many are doing. Not that I'm a fan of Microsoft Surface.
@h069401
@h069401 3 жыл бұрын
Just in case you haven't noticed, you are fantastic; keep them coming and thank you.
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Thanks! 😁
@tuckercoffin2164
@tuckercoffin2164 4 жыл бұрын
I got my first Surface device when the Surface Pro 7 came out and I love it. Thanks so much for making these videos! They're great.
@sz4128
@sz4128 4 жыл бұрын
Best reviewer on the KZbin interweb thingy. No nonsense and informative. Brilliant. Thank you and keep them coming.
@MrDtoU1
@MrDtoU1 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome use case review and beautifully articulated. I am sure I'll be looking forward to your reviews henceforth.
@zynan
@zynan 4 жыл бұрын
Another sensible and comprehensive review.
@perc7935
@perc7935 4 жыл бұрын
Great review but I still don’t know if I should purchase any other info I should know about?
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say that if you still don't know you should stick with a Pro 7. Great device, safe bet.
@RatulGhosh89
@RatulGhosh89 4 жыл бұрын
I was on the edge about the Pro X, this definitely helped. Cheers Mate!
@petertuck9243
@petertuck9243 3 жыл бұрын
Can we get a up to date review please be very much appreciated on the integration of apps 365 with arm and where we are now?
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 3 жыл бұрын
There will be an update... Soon. Ish. Lots to do. 😁👍
@commentarytalk1446
@commentarytalk1446 3 жыл бұрын
@@oztabletpc The key is the price drop if you can find one with this (significant price drop) then it changes the proposition completely and the device is incredibly useful for the price paid due to the versatility of 2 in 1 (interactivity), portability, connectivity and ergonomics (eg kickstand, portrait, detachable etc).
@vegantho1270
@vegantho1270 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I'm on the fence about buying the SPX. I saw some review videos and they said that the screen would flicker when you lower the brightness, is this true?
@commentarytalk1446
@commentarytalk1446 3 жыл бұрын
Yes at
@liamdale130
@liamdale130 4 жыл бұрын
I've got the Surface Go base model. I find it's fine for what I use it for (email, web surfing, office 365 and videos), however the battery life is quite poor for an 'all day device'. I'm finding I can use the device for around 3 hours before it needs to be recharged. Sadly this doesn't fit my needs as I am a uni student, so I think I'll be looking for an alternative device with longer battery life. Hopefully Microsoft releases a Surface Go 2 with an ARM processor, longer battery life and built in LTE by default.
@gyozakeynsianism
@gyozakeynsianism 4 жыл бұрын
I went through the classroom portion of grad school on a Surface Pro (2017), WiFi only - OneNote for notes, Word and PowerPoint, and a bunch of statistical software (Gauss, Matlab, Stata, R/R Studio) plus all the security nonsense required by my institution. Worked great. Works great - still using it. When I get home I dock it and it becomes my desktop. On a good day I get 9 hours of battery life - that's real life usage. (It'd get down to 6 with heavy Matlab usage.) Even though I'm on the train all day I find I don't need LTE. The SP(2017) does have an LTE option but that'll bring down your battery life of course. I think the Surface Pro X would be a great choice if I were confident it could run the statistical and security software well. Thankfully the Intel Surface Pro line is tried and true.
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I hope for that too. 3 hours is about half what you should get on the Surface Go though. Have you tried any of our battery suggestions?
@truenobzr
@truenobzr 4 жыл бұрын
best pro x review in youtube, thx for sharing.
@GeetMadan
@GeetMadan 4 жыл бұрын
Wait? You have a podcast? Where can I find it?
@vikrantkbhardwaj23
@vikrantkbhardwaj23 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant review. V comprehensive 👍
@Clodderes
@Clodderes 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I'm using my pro X mainly for office work. it's good to know that it's good for video conference, I don't do much conference, so never tried it myself yet. for battery life, I feel like, it's drain the battery too much, and sometimes it cannot last until all day, when I use office 365, which run through emulation.
@carlinogonz
@carlinogonz 4 жыл бұрын
Toto Isdarto hi there, how much RAM did you get? And what’s your average usage of RAM with all you normally use it? I can’t decide if 8GB will be enough.
@Clodderes
@Clodderes 4 жыл бұрын
@@carlinogonz Hi, I have 16 GB of ram. My average usage is about 50%, and mostly for edge, office and foxit pdf. Several instance of them are usually opened.
@rakshyathapa7438
@rakshyathapa7438 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please try running latex with high-resolution images in beamer slides about 40 pages and say how smoothly it works or how laggy it is?
@HassanAli-qq8yb
@HassanAli-qq8yb 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been trying to fine a review like this for soo long I’m not really into the more hardcore stuff, just Microsoft word and PowerPoint.
@piyushkatariya1040
@piyushkatariya1040 4 жыл бұрын
Most of the programs like office 365, MS Teams, slack, visual studio code and many more have their online version and works at best speed in chromium based Edge browser. Many games are also porting their code to webassembly or JS which is also good.
@fallinginthed33p
@fallinginthed33p 4 жыл бұрын
Instead of using x86 apps, you can create apps from websites using the new Edge beta. Works for Teams and a lot of SaaS stuff out there. You'll get better performance and longer battery life by using the ARM64 Edge beta.
@pc0736
@pc0736 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, very informative. I’m looking into the X but I relay heavily on Google Backup and Sync. I can’t find any info on wether it’s completable. Can you please shad some light on this? If it doesn’t I’ll wait for the 8. Thx dude.
@rakeemrakeemrakeem
@rakeemrakeemrakeem 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review. One question about external monitors. I have the LG 49inch monitor with 5120 x 1440 resolution, but is the X able to output this resolution with just 1 usbc? Wasn't sure if this was the same monitor you shared. Thank you!
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
The monitor I have is this one here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIOlhJure8mBbdE It is 3840 x 1600. I have not tried 5120 x 1440. The support article that you need would be here: support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4023496/surface-troubleshoot-connecting-to-a-second-screen
@SuperAdobeFlash
@SuperAdobeFlash 4 жыл бұрын
Please compare and do a similar program with the latest Pro X too. Great content Brett. Thanks
@KPleader1
@KPleader1 4 жыл бұрын
Can you run Remote Desktop so I can connect to lab computers at uni?
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, remote desktop works on the Pro X.
@robertopontelli4902
@robertopontelli4902 4 жыл бұрын
My compliments for the effective review, we don't so many data abt performances but we need to know how it works in our daily use. Two questions: I assume that it has the power to run complex functions in Excel, and it should be adapted to 32bit, right? Second: is it possible to connect 2 extrenal screens simultaneously? 2k or 4k as well? Thanks a lot and cheers from Italy!
@nikjosafatow4167
@nikjosafatow4167 4 жыл бұрын
Have you had troubles connecting to printers?
@whatsbestnow
@whatsbestnow 4 жыл бұрын
Do all the backgrounds on teams work too?
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, they do.
@MartinSjoholm
@MartinSjoholm 4 жыл бұрын
Have you not had issues with Teams at all? It keeps crashing for me. Seems to be a common issue on SPX.
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm. Maybe. I did notice teams crash somewhere the other day, maybe it was on the Pro X. If you haven't already, make sure to send feedback about it. Click on help in the bottom left corner > Give feedback.
@stevenlk
@stevenlk 4 жыл бұрын
Going to japan in a week might just not be the best idea considering the corona virus outbreak there...
@gsogymrat
@gsogymrat 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. Today I ordered a Surface Pro X to replace my Surface Pro 4. I use the Surface Pro 4 daily and love it but the battery now lasts less than 2 hours at 50% screen brightness. What is going to be the dealbreaker is whether Surface Pro X can access Epic medical records through Citrix. I've read it doesn't work and read that it works flawlessly.
@Tommy-qe6fh
@Tommy-qe6fh 3 жыл бұрын
Is it any good?
@brianwolters7560
@brianwolters7560 4 жыл бұрын
currently use a Surface Book 2. In the mobile world, I use Google Services mixed with about equal parts Microsoft. I go between Samsung Note and a Pixel but usually my camera needs win out, so I end up staying with a Pixel, even if I like Samsung's Hardware. Which, brings me to the Surface Pro X. I had a Samsung Tab S6 tablet with 4G and it is a good device...great screen, surprisingly good cameras for a tablet and having DEX is an option. But my workflow never could match what I get in a desktop / Surface Book 2. So I decided to take a chance on the Surface Pro X as my middle ground between Phone and laptop. Let me say, so far, I'm pleased...surprisingly pleased with the Surface Pro X...and I wanted to share general thoughts: I love the screen. Best I've seen in a "detachable" Surface. Sound is excellent and crisp. They keyboard feels good and backlighting is perfect. The magnet that pushes against the screen to provide more support and hide the pen seems a little more flimsy than I'm used to on a Surface Device. Tablet Mode seems a little more natural due to the screen size and ratio. Face Unlock is super quick, faster than a Surface Pro 7 I used for a while. Now some performance and experience notes I've seen some lag but no showstoppers. I loaded the new Edge and it works smoothly. Visual Studio Code works great. Office runs perfectly. Random Notes Absolutely, anything that requires moderate to heavy 3d Rendering I've not been able to run, which is fine. Syberia Myst IV Obduction Older and Lower Resource Games from GOG run splendidly well Zork Grand Inquisitor Kentucky Route Zero URU If I want heavy gaming, I'll go to my Surface Book 2, Desktop or XBOX. But on the go, I want to play simpler and retro games. Google's Stadia, as expected, runs amazingly well provided you have a good connection. I saved Stadia as an Edge "App" and it loads and plays in full screen. I'm ready for XCLOUD Beta to come to laptops and PC's. Popping in my Verizon worked seamlessly. And that's a good thing as Verizon with CDMA is usually the kicker. I love my Surface Book 2 and will continue to use this but I really believe my Surface Pro X may be my day to day, on the go machine. I'm impressed.
@mariagorettalombardi6300
@mariagorettalombardi6300 3 жыл бұрын
Can runs Google apps eg meet, classroom, jumboard
@BW7085BW
@BW7085BW 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I think Microsoft should have release the surface Go with the arm processor and the pro X with the Quad core 10th gen intel core.
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I agree with that!
@andybyard1154
@andybyard1154 4 жыл бұрын
I half agree, a Go with an arm chip would be fantastic BUT it would probably sell by the lorry load and then be returned by the 1/2 lorry load as people find it can't quite run everything. Better to wait until more ARM apps available or MS crack x64 emulation, might run things slowly but at least they will load. I would hope SPX buyers did significant research before splashing out £1k-£2k. Personally I'm happy to act as a Guinea pig for WOA with the SPX as it does exactly what I want, not sure the target market for a Go would be of the same opinion.
@andybyard1154
@andybyard1154 4 жыл бұрын
and the other 1/2 of my response - The SPX should never have had the word 'Pro' in it, that should be reserved for the x86 line until such times as ARM can equal it in all things. I hope somewhere in the MS labs there is a Pro 8 waiting in the wings with all the bells and whistle (top spec cpu, decent battery life, LTE, instant-on etc) to meet the needs of the true Pro crowd (not the office/OneNote folk like me). I love my SPX but still recommend Pro7 to friends/colleagues looking to get a surface.
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
@@andybyard1154 it's like you're stealing my words! 😉 That's what I say to people all the time. I should do a video about that...
@andybyard1154
@andybyard1154 4 жыл бұрын
@@oztabletpc Apologies if I've just typed what you said in the video, it's been a while since I watched it but I like to come back and read the comments on your stuff. I should prefix my comments with "A wise man once old me...". Big fan of your OneNote vids too btw
@SCIENindustries
@SCIENindustries 4 жыл бұрын
what about visual studio?
@100bsl
@100bsl 4 жыл бұрын
Hi... does it have pwm flickering screen issues? Noticed it on the review.
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen anything. If you're referring to flicker on this video it's more likely an artifact of our camera and lighting setup.
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Further on, the Godox lights that we use have issues with Pulse Width Modulation, especially at low brightness...
@100bsl
@100bsl 4 жыл бұрын
The Pro X screen seems to flicker in some of the scenes
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
It could also be our 50Hz power supply VS camera frame rate settings VS screen refresh rate.
@wendelynmusic
@wendelynmusic 4 жыл бұрын
I have the Pro X and I love it. Does everything I need and more than I expected. I really think arm is the future so I suspect that more and more apps will port. I mostly don't hit that wall but I have run into a weird bug with edge that has me annoyed, though just using Chrome until it's fixed works great. And battery life is awesome!!! This alone makes it worth it to me.
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Consider giving Firefox a try on the Pro X. Native ARM. My short experience with it was very good!
@filoniz
@filoniz 4 жыл бұрын
If this run window and Android together I would buy it
@carlinogonz
@carlinogonz 4 жыл бұрын
What’s your average RAM usage?
@sedjromensah5077
@sedjromensah5077 4 жыл бұрын
Hi @oztabletpc ! Nice review! I watched also your video on handwriting recognition improvement a year ago and unfortunately this feature doesn't seem to work on my device and on other SPX users according to fora, could you confirm it? Anf if yes, do you have an idea what the problem is?
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it works on my Surface Pro X. Check your language settings to see if the necessary features are installed.
@carlinogonz
@carlinogonz 4 жыл бұрын
Sedjro Mensah hi there, how much RAM did you get? And what’s your average usage of RAM with all you normally use it? I can’t decide if 8GB will be enough.
@howardbattersby5672
@howardbattersby5672 3 жыл бұрын
I've had a Surface Pro X for just shy of 3years now. I'm on my FOURTH keyboard. While Microsoft replace them without question the warranty period comes to an end shortly, then life will get interesting. The thing is that with the integrated pen charger, that when the keyboard packs in then the pen also effectively packs in.
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's bad. What's happening with your keyboards?
@sankeerthsonu3741
@sankeerthsonu3741 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think that it will get slow down in long term? As it is something like mobile hardware. There were some reviews showing some bugs also. What’s your view on that?
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
I'd still be cautious. It can be slow and laggy at times. I'm not seeing lots of bugs, but too much slowness under load..
@Nellysdomain
@Nellysdomain 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video .. one best out there for Pro X potential buyer 👍
@michaelggriffiths
@michaelggriffiths 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I noticed you were running JW Library :-) I find that JW Library crashes often on my Surface Book, how does it run on the Pro X?
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Runs well. It used to crash every time the computer went to sleep. But that's been fixed I think. Do you have the latest version?
@michaelggriffiths
@michaelggriffiths 4 жыл бұрын
@@oztabletpc hmm., Interesting, yes latest version. I've had 4 surface devices, and they all exhibit the save problem or similar probs with JW Library. One bro who I work with uses his Surface book to take the WT and he also finds that JWL is now unusable. Strangely at the Branch loads use Surface Pro 3 & 4 without any issues at all. Also when I go to WHQ it's full of Surfaces.. I might get a Pro X and give it a whirl then. We do a lot of presentations for Conventions and Surfaces are absolutely invaluable, but it's nice to be able to use at meetings also, saves carrying an iPad. Thanks bro. Mike
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelggriffiths I take it you're from the USA Michael. Keen to get in touch, drop me an email via our website if you can.
@alphabeta6246
@alphabeta6246 4 жыл бұрын
Smooth product placement
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
What's the product placement you're talking about? Is there something that I should be getting paid for that I'm not??
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe you're talking about 1password? If so, I get nothing at all from them and pay for their product. I take advice from Troy Hunt who recommends them, and since they support Windows Hello I like their password manager.
@mohammedsaad1059
@mohammedsaad1059 4 жыл бұрын
The video was very helpful for some of questions, thank you very much for the efforts. But I personally don't understand technical issues and limitations of ARM. I want to start trading so I must use trading apps such as Metatrader and others. The question is how to know if I will be able to download and use these apps with ARM.
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Try to find out of the are available to download as 32bit programs. If they don't say up front you might have to dig a little deeper or check on the support forums that are available for the software. If that is too technical (not everyone is a Geek like me!), it would be safer to stick to the Surface Pro 7.
@odin2024
@odin2024 3 жыл бұрын
do you know if office 365 working in mode native or mode emulated x86?
@commentarytalk1446
@commentarytalk1446 3 жыл бұрын
The installed version is x86 iirc. However if you uninstall that version then seek to install again, you'll end up with native ARM binaries and it will run faster.
@guyfromkk
@guyfromkk 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, seems like Microsoft will launch a new SPX (with improved processor) later this week, if rumour is true.
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Windows on ARM is very much on the radar! I have a 10 month review coming very soon BTW.
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Announced last night (Melbourne time) x64 support for ARM processors! This changes the game... blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2020/09/30/now-more-essential-than-ever-the-role-of-the-windows-pc-has-changed/?WT.mc_id=WDIT-MVP-4025565
@nikjosafatow4167
@nikjosafatow4167 4 жыл бұрын
What monitor is that that lets it charge?
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Most USB-C capable monitors include PD charging.
@Cakebattered
@Cakebattered 4 жыл бұрын
Great review, and nice device, but the lack of Citrix compatible software makes it a No-Go for a large percentage of ideal users.
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
So no Citrix client? Wow. I really dislike the Citrix approach anyway. It's so keyboard and mouse centric. It enables remote end points, but not really mobility. That said, it's been a long time since I looked at it.
@NickPrizzy
@NickPrizzy 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE my Surface Pro X, but the only thing that is bugging me is that my face unlock isn’t working :( I see a lot of people saying the same, and someone needed to get a whole new one to fix the problem, which I’d rather not do. Hoping a future software update can fix it, but other than that the Pro X does every that I(!!!) need it to do!
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
I've had that happen before too, but not on the Pro X. I had to reinstall windows. Hope they fix it for you...
@carlinogonz
@carlinogonz 4 жыл бұрын
hi there, how much RAM did you get? And what’s your average usage of RAM with all you normally use it? I can’t decide if 8GB will be enough.
@NickPrizzy
@NickPrizzy 4 жыл бұрын
Carlino Gonzalez I got 8! I’ll let you know my usage when I’m home but everything I do runs great!
@carlinogonz
@carlinogonz 4 жыл бұрын
Nick Prizzy thanks, I will be awaiting your reply. I really appreciate your help
@collenekennedy
@collenekennedy 4 жыл бұрын
As always good content, review and information! You are my "Surface Pro 5" go-to expert! And this is off-topic, but I'm wondering if you can tell me how to get Windows Workspace back on my Surface?! When I got it last year, if he pen was tapped once, on the right side of the screen the workspace opened up with a variety of Microsoft apps i.e. sticky notes, fresh paint and frankly, I can't remember what other apps. But now, Poof!' It seems to have disappeared. When I tap the pen once or twice Workspace seems to be gone and on the bottom of the screen what comes up is Whiteboard or Snip and Sketch, which can be opened, I really liked the workspace....any idea how to get it back on??????? As always thanks for your content - Collene
@collenekennedy
@collenekennedy 4 жыл бұрын
The correct name would be Windows Ink workspace!
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, I liked it the way it was too. It's now been changed and is just not at all useful. I suspect that this was due to the design of the Surface Pro X where the Windows Ink Workspace is launched every time you pick up your pen. My guess is that they were thinking that it had to be much less obtrusive of you were going to see it so often. But I think the missed the mark, and they should have allowed both options...
@collenekennedy
@collenekennedy 4 жыл бұрын
@@oztabletpc Ahaaaa! Now I understand why Poof! It did disappear! What was a tad' annoying is I called a Windows Microsoft support number and the person I was talking to didn't know what I was talking about...I was having problems with sticky notes that are demanding to be full screen since this change! ! ! I'm working on fixing (I think!) Thank you so much for your quick and helpful response! I don't really use the other two apps all that much...but who knows what update will do what next! Cheerio!
@BaloustiProductions
@BaloustiProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Hi does anyone know how if blue beam works on the surface ProX?
@daveg8228
@daveg8228 4 жыл бұрын
if I get the Pro 7 (i5 and 8GB RAM model) ? Will this device hold it's own and perform a lot faster with than my current laptop (fourth gen i5 dell latitude with an HDD and getting slow every day) I heavily use Microsoft office 365 apps (large speardsheet, PowerPoints, large word files with alot of content, etc.) for an 8-9 hours a day..
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
I can't advise on your specific laptop, although it sounds easily achievable. If you do go ahead with it, there's plenty of help on the channel to get the best out of the Pro 7. For example, watch our videos on the Surface pen and put it to use, and you'll soon forget about your laptop ;-).
@jasonlaughton7590
@jasonlaughton7590 3 жыл бұрын
Howgd is the pro x I'm after a surface machine that will all me to surf the net and to download music and films from sites n that which will be better
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 3 жыл бұрын
If that's all you want to do, it should be fine. It's a great machine.
@lucabastianello9830
@lucabastianello9830 4 жыл бұрын
Same problems of previous incarnations: compatibility ed Apps missing and price too too much high
@HappieHowie
@HappieHowie 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very good video!
@MarioCharron3046
@MarioCharron3046 4 жыл бұрын
How does the Pro X work with Gsuite and Google drive?
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Good question. I'd imagine that it should work well with FireFox or the new Edge on chromium. But Google have a habit of breaking things so that they only work in Chrome (which also works, but a little slower). Reminds me of old Microsoft. Perhaps someone else can comment?
@BillyHarvey
@BillyHarvey 4 жыл бұрын
I use both and they seem to work fine with my X, also using Chrome Edge. I also just use the web version of Office 365, and it works well. As another data point, though maybe more technical than most are interested in, for those of us who live frequently in the Linux world, WSL2 works well. Docker doesn't have a service that will run on the ARM64 yet (some people have compiled their own, so it's possible), so for that kind of development needs, it does work well to bring up the server in the Linux subsystem and run any natively compiled containers there.
@andybyard1154
@andybyard1154 4 жыл бұрын
Have you gone to an Insider build to get WSL2? I'm on WSL1 and finding that more than adequate for my hobbyist needs for the Linux world, X-App start-up times on my SPX seem way faster than their X86 counterparts (on works i5 cpu) - reference point=JetBrains intelliJ, Pycharm and Datagrip
@miguelangelgm9475
@miguelangelgm9475 4 жыл бұрын
You can instal Excel an you can open protecting files with password?
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely. Excel and Office run perfectly.
@pro-gradetech9155
@pro-gradetech9155 4 жыл бұрын
Does Samsung DeX work on the Surface Pro X?
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Haven't tried it. Your Phone works great though.
@pro-gradetech9155
@pro-gradetech9155 4 жыл бұрын
@@oztabletpc sorry to say but can u try it please because I really use Samsung DeX daily and I'm willing to buy the Surface Pro X but I'm quite worried it doesn't work? 😅😅
@alessandrorossano8870
@alessandrorossano8870 4 жыл бұрын
How many surface devices !! 😳 This would be one of my greatest dream! 😔
@maazkamran7b122
@maazkamran7b122 4 жыл бұрын
Is there MY PC in surface pro x
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Do you mean in the File Explorer? Is called "This PC" now and it's still there.
@maazkamran7b122
@maazkamran7b122 4 жыл бұрын
oztabletpc no in the desktop. Is there an official app called “This PC”. And another thing is there Recycle bin in surface pro x
@zedrameses1564
@zedrameses1564 4 жыл бұрын
Will it charge from a powerbank?
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it charges from a USB-C PD (Power Delivery) capable power bank. So does the Surface Pro 7. Very handy!
@KingMooseThe3rd
@KingMooseThe3rd 4 жыл бұрын
Being able to run AdBlock on a Surface in-browser makes it leagues above any android device.
@jeffjarinmd
@jeffjarinmd 4 жыл бұрын
I use photoshop elements 13 on my Pro X. 32 bit.
@carlinogonz
@carlinogonz 4 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Jarin hi there, how much RAM did you get? And what’s your average usage of RAM with all you normally use it? I can’t decide if 8GB will be enough.
@jeffjarinmd
@jeffjarinmd 4 жыл бұрын
@@carlinogonz I have 8. Don't think RAM Is the bottleneck.
@carlinogonz
@carlinogonz 4 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Jarin thank you. I want to bet on Microsoft on ARM, and if they make better software in the future I want this surface to last me at least 3 years. That’s why I ask. Do you know your average RAM usage on your SPX?
@tecnopadre
@tecnopadre 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review, but I'm always missing you not referring to what I really consider soooo important. The X removed the microSD expansion slot. Which I think it's so important. That's why one of the main points I'd buy the PRO 7 instead of the X. What do you think? Congrats again for the channel. (a subscriber)
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't use it a lot, but would prefer to have it for sure, especially with limited storage options currently.
@colinmannutube
@colinmannutube 4 жыл бұрын
One thing you did not mention regarding the new edge browser is the ability to create apps from any web page. That is super useful . Ps great review
@Pyriander
@Pyriander 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a (big) difference to just making a Link?
@akasection
@akasection 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Pyriander if the web is not PWA supported, it's mainly just a link with supposedly separated cache management. but if its PWA based web, it's really.. an app. They use resource separately from main browser, and have basic permission/access to hardware, like native apps.
@kirillpikin
@kirillpikin 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for such a detailed review! For the moment, I decided to go with Pro 7. Due for two reasons: the Dropbox client for the corporate warehouse and the compatible drivers for devices like Apple Trackpad (no ARM version yet). But I don’t like the small screen, battery life and lack of sim card slot. So I would consider switching for Pro X or Samsung Book S in the future. The other Samsung Book S feature is that it’s compatible with Samsung Note’s stylus, which is really nice and lightweight. But Microsoft’s devices use different technology. It would also be great to know if Pro X allows you to charge via an 18W USB-C charger (like the original Samsung Note 10+ charger). Because Pro 7 requires at least 30W, and this charger is almost twice the weight compared with Samsung’s 18W charger. Thank you again.
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think that the standard Samsung charger does work. So you need a USB PD compatible charger, possibly like the Samsung 45W charger. That would charge both your suface and your phone.
@a7madmotaw3
@a7madmotaw3 4 жыл бұрын
Hi all Does anyone tried installing and using filemaker pro esp. Filemaker 16 pro advanced 32bit on surface pro x? If so, how was the performance? Wss it sluggish or buggy?
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
Good question. I hope someone has an answer on that!
@MarioCharron3046
@MarioCharron3046 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 4 жыл бұрын
My issues with the Surface Pro X are not what it cannot do, having a 2018 WOA device I knew this would be an issue as it is a work in progress, the real issue is of its modus operandi. The first is battery life and I cannot get close to MS claims, 5-6h on a good day, that is half my iPad Pro and most 10th generation laptops will beat it. That was the selling point and MS made a bad mistake here. The second is onboard LTE. In 2020 this is no longer important. With 5g phones and tethering it is a much cheaper solution, no need for two contracts, in the UK unlimited data is cheap (£25 pm). Finally, always-on. With Intels new ethos of getting all devices to sleep and instant-on, a WOA laptop has lost one of its major advantages. So I am struggling to recommend the Surface Pro X. You will pay more for less with less performance, disappointing battery life and a lack of native app support. As a secondary device or an Enterprise based machine it works okay. I am not an aesthetics driven buyer so bezels or no bezels will not be a driver, but others may feel that is more important than the overall user-experience. I would suggest wait a year in the hope WOA has better support otherwise you may have driver’s remorse. I have seen on eBay second-hand month old devices selling at over £300 off suggesting low demand and buyers willing to cut their losses. THE Samsung GALAXY BOOK S is the next ARM based device to arrive and hopefully battery life will be more in line with expectations.
@filoniz
@filoniz 4 жыл бұрын
I think Microsoft fail to give the surface pro seven the new keyboard and pen. Just money graph and greedy.
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 4 жыл бұрын
It's a chassis change. I don't think it's a money issue at all... I mean you can buy the Pro X. The Pro 7 did not have a chassis (or bucket as they call it) redesign - only one port modification. The tooling stays the same, and the production lines only have minor changes. As a side benefit it still works with the same cases, peripherals. There will be a chassis change for sure, but each product has a life cycle and the Pro 7 is at the end of one. Really only minor chassis changes from Pro 3 all the way to 7. My feeling is that Pro X is the new chassis and Pro 8 will fit into it... Just a hunch.
@NeuroScientician
@NeuroScientician 4 жыл бұрын
It's like shitty version Ipad pro
@wnekuu
@wnekuu 4 жыл бұрын
So basically overpriced Office 365 hardware, doing less that can be done on Atom powered chinese tablet for 5-10% of price hmm
@lucabastianello9830
@lucabastianello9830 4 жыл бұрын
Atoms processors are immortals
@wnekuu
@wnekuu 4 жыл бұрын
@@lucabastianello9830 i have tablet with one too and it was even powerful enough to run medieval total war :D amd could run Visual Studio fir learning etc, but now using surface pro 6 i7 everything it's much more convinient and smooth anyway
@lucabastianello9830
@lucabastianello9830 4 жыл бұрын
@@wnekuu it's normal if you think the more than 700$ difference in price to the Atom^^
@wnekuu
@wnekuu 4 жыл бұрын
@@lucabastianello9830 fortunately i got mine surface used for half the price :D but i think it's well worth it, since I've got it I'm using my desktop only for hardest graphical work, as Photoshop with big RAWs can become laggy on it, but everything is possible anyway
@wnekuu
@wnekuu 4 жыл бұрын
But i can't even imagine paying that much for machine that doesn't let me do everything. Comparing what i see about X to my experience with 6 - just can't get my head around it, what somebody was thinking makingyso expensive office machine. Same as with ipads pro for example - maybe powerful but still what do people see in them if for such money they can't run normal software? My surface is even more powerful than my previous laptop, can do literary anything, even play games, although gpu is only bad thing on it. So it's illogical for me to pay so much for iPad that can only run mobile apps, or X...
@ramakris2323
@ramakris2323 3 жыл бұрын
useless product
@oztabletpc
@oztabletpc 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... Useless comment.
@MarioCharron3046
@MarioCharron3046 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
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