Susanna Questions Michael Tomlinson on Why Uk Isn't Doing More with France to Stop the Boats

Just hours after the Rwanda plan passed parliament, French media reported that five migrants died while attempting to cross the channel this morning.
This comes as the Prime Minister says nothing is going to stand in his way of getting flights deporting asylum seekers to Rwanda off the ground.
Susanna Reid questions Illegal Migration Minister Michael Tomlinson on why the Government aren't doing more with our French counterparts to stop the boats.
Broadcast on 23/04/24
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[@dacorum8053]

They killed themselves by trying to come here illegally when there was no need for them to do so because they fled from a safe country, France , where they could have sought to remain if they were genuine refugees.

[@redmed10]

And still they keep coming in spite of those who died in the attempt. Doesn't that tell you something?

[@josimpson7999]

Agreed!

[@Dom-De]

Yeah, but because of BRExit we don't get to send them back to France anymore - we have to spend £500 million to send back 200 a year. We used to send them back to France, under the Dublin agreement. Blame Farage and his lies.

[@richarddavidjohn6803]

@@Dom-Dewe couldn’t send them back before we left the EU

[@josimpson7999]

@@Dom-De You have to catch them before you can send them back! In reality, I doubt very much if a single illegal migrant was ever sent back to France.

[@Bridgey938]

And why is that the British public's problem

[@Dom-De]

Because BRExit means more will come. Farage lied .

[@Gaviek1]

You voted for Brexit, we no longer have the same powers that we did.

[@andybanov4319]

@@Gaviek1 Brexit lol let it go ffs

[@Bridgey938]

@@Gaviek1 I didn't actually mystic meg

[@saulwest8254]

​@Gaviek1 ECHR is unrelated to Brexit.

[@elgun6125]

How is it the UKs fault if they’re coming from France. We’ve spent a fortune giving money to the French to stop the boats, but they’re clearly aiding and abetting the smugglers.

[@stephendarlison8140]

we should not be concerned the French have been paid to stop this if they can not spend that money pushing back like Australia do

[@biddlybongdavinport5995]

Because we didn't sort the returns deal with France. Funny how the Cons don't mention this.

[@Arltratlo]

maybe your government lied to you....maybe they gave the money not to the French, but Tory donors!

[@kevincrouch3956]

The UK with Brexit wanted to control their OWN borders...nothing to do with France...this tragedy on the incompetent UK.

[@ravd8082]

rather get a 4 star hotel than a tent in france

[@leer774]

stop the benefits, free homes and free health care if you want to stop the boats its not that complicated... no freebies no need to come here.... they ain't coming here for the weather

[@karenhopwood891]

Healthcare is free at the point of use in this country. Also, what free homes? What benefits? They aren't allowed to work while they wait years to be processed. Are you suggesting they starve to death?

[@SigmundJaehn]

@@karenhopwood891you might not like their answer to that.

[@redbeard3923]

​@@karenhopwood891😅😅😅😅 what benefits hotels free heating free heath care and money each week more then British homeless

[@TheDominicProject]

@@redbeard3923all you have said is we are also violating the rights of our homeless. Our gov won’t even help Brits, and so you want to punish those fleeing war and famine etc. got it backwards

[@kat2023.]

They don't get benefits. More Tory lies!!

[@alansimms2238]

Stop giving hotels rooms money and help.. then they will stop coming..

[@liberte.3.6.9]

So what,thats 5 less to house feed

[@user-mn4yd7ds9b]

Yes look on the 🔆 bright side

[@julietkelly7215]

Talk about St. George's Day. Not on those who aren't from the UK

[@peppertennis]

Julietkelly …St George was Turkish and lived most his life in Palestine

[@andypercy4022]

Stop the benefits and you stop the boats!

[@karenhopwood891]

They recieve £14 per week.

[@Dom-De]

How much are these benefits? Did you look it up? it's HALF what a homeless person gets !!!! That an a bed to sleep in - that's all. You believed the Reform lies - but this is all BRExit's fault. Before BRExit, France had to take them back, and stop them leaving - we sent loads back to France under the Dublin Agreement. After Farage's BRExit, we "took back control" remember ? THIS IS OUR PROBLEM NOW !

[@sausagesoda4090]

@@karenhopwood891£49.18 per week plus entitlement to claim universal credit, pension credit and housing benefit.

[@andypercy4022]

@@karenhopwood891 wake up.

[@Arltratlo]

funny, Brits still want to live in Spain....i wonder why??

[@Trav-eller]

300-500 british people are dying here per week due to NHS delays. Focus on them. It's not nice these people died. However, it is a risk that they were take.

[@kevinwellwrought2024]

The French police officers were just spectating the immigrants boarding the boats without lifting a finger to stop any one of them!

[@Dom-De]

Before BRExit, France had to take them back, and stop them leaving - we sent loads back to France under the Dublin Agreement. After Farage's BRExit, we "took back control" remember ? THIS IS OUR PROBLEM NOW !

[@Arltratlo]

@@Dom-De you cant talk facts to a special Brit! they are so special, they can find the facts, even if you staple them to their forehead!

[@stub1256]

​@@Dom-Dethey are Frances problem. France let them in, in the first place. If France dealt with them as they would deal with you, if you turned up without a passport then they wouldnt be our problem would they.

[@public.public]

They didn't go in heavy because there were children there and there had been a previous crossing stopped by police which was criticised for being violent.

[@tonycoxall7370]

@@Dom-De You say France had to take them back and stop them leaving before Britian left the EU. Have you the facts and figures to back this claim up? Perhaps my memory is defective but I can't remember many illegal immigrants being returned to France, or even seeing stopped coming here before January 2021 ( when we left the EU).#

[@cheryl71000]

Perhaps if the French and British towed them back to France straight away. Then boom they would stop people paying the smugglers as they won't get want they are paying for!!!!!!

[@philipberry7806]

Exactly right.

[@Dom-De]

They don't have to do this - the UK protects it's boarder, not France. BRExit "took back control" remember !

[@jakeholland9502]

No rules saying France has to have them back we left the union

[@biddlybongdavinport5995]

​​@@Dom-Dewe didn't sort a returns deal with France, as the cons bodged it. Yes it's our fault, and I personally think this was engineered to try and win an election. Our current government is a bunch of nepotistic charlatans at best.

[@nimzgaz7049]

Lady is wrong. Rwanda will work. Watch sky news from this morning and see the immigrants reaction and how disappointed they are. One of them actually said please don’t to Uk.

[@corinneaggar9755]

Stop them coming over ..

[@Dom-De]

How? We have 3 boarder force boats in the Channel. Italy has 27 for it's boarder. After BRexit we have no money to buy & run boats, and the EU doesn't have to lift a finger to help us as we're not an EU country.

[@jameysherman3318]

Wouldn't it be more feasible to just mine the UK coastline?

[@macdory666]

The only way to stop this is to ensure that no benefits, housing or free NHS is accessible unless you have lived and worked in the UK for at least 5 years - the boats will stop overnight!

[@TheDominicProject]

Vile and not even accurate. They are put in holding and wait months if not years to be passed, to get right to work documents etc, they want to be safe and to work. Your logic is Our country is run poorly so lets punish those who come from war and famine, UK is so backwards rn

[@mjrhitchin]

you think that illegal immigrants claim benefits? How?

[@Arltratlo]

you talking about Brits in Spain???

[@janis3328]

@@Arltratlopeople not from Spain don’t receive benefits and in fact help the economy by paying their way so reign your neck in.

[@rb1062]

​@@Arltratlo Brits in Spain are receiving their retirement, which they contributed to. Contributed!

[@timyardley7042]

Anyone who cries “refugees are welcome here” are all complicit in this happening,if it even happened at all. We have had enough.

[@Dom-De]

Millionaires like Tice, Farage and Habib are MAKING MONEY from all this with Reform memberships. And they're taking that money as 'loans' for themselves ! And they are the ones that said we should leave the EU and don't need France to protect our boarder !!!!!

[@rb1062]

Absolutely. Especially when the hypocrites don't, even, take them in.

[@timyardley7042]

@@rb1062 Don’t get me wrong it pains me to even say such words,but this is all being done on purpose and I don’t believe a word MSM say about the subject anymore.

[@EdwardLindon]

"Anyone" is a singular pronoun. I'd have thought a staunch John Bull patriot like yourself would know this.

[@timyardley7042]

@@EdwardLindon 😂

[@Leeroy-gt6zs]

When you stop feeding pigeons they go away

[@123prestolee]

Very good - this evening’s laugh.

[@leerattley6740]

Why should the UK do any more 🤬

[@TheHeninhardenne]

All boats should be forced to turn back

[@ChrisTowner-wc8zj]

Blame the French they shouldn't of let them do it.

[@Dom-De]

When we were in the EU the EU stopped this. BRExit means the EU doesn't care. Remember how we "took back control" of OUR boarder ???? LOL - Farage played us for fools.

[@Icedmorgans]

@@Dom-DeThe EU is flooded with illegals. Nothing to do with Brexit.

[@Arltratlo]

nobody can be forced to stay in the EU, if they want to leave....they can leave! its not like Europe is a tiny island with silly people on it who making bad decisions 24/7 for a living, aka Tories!

[@JaniceKing-dy6wc]

Oh dear what a shame never mind!

[@user-mn4yd7ds9b]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@robbeales5516]

My thoughts exactly, I will even celibate that tonight with a nice drink and a toast to sea 🌊 😊

[@Ruffbiker68]

Glug glug glug 😂😂😂😂

[@user-mn4yd7ds9b]

@@Ruffbiker68 can't stop laughing 😂

[@user-mn4yd7ds9b]

@@Ruffbiker68 can't stop 😂 laughing

[@markwilliams4201]

How can a PM who the British public never elected,take these decisions?Surely we as the British public should have more say on boats stopping etcetra.Why is Sunak making decisions that the British public don't agree with?

[@matthewbunting127]

Stop giving them money when they come , then they won’t come The money and free house, of course they’re gonna keep coming You need to take this country back grow some balls🇬🇧

[@garethwilliams976]

If you are not deterred by the fear of death how deterred will you be by the fear of being sent to Rwanda?

[@borsiak]

Shouldn't be there

[@user-mn4yd7ds9b]

Exactly😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Dom-De]

Yeah, they should land on our shores secretly, which is what usually happens.

[@oneeye6437]

France has had the money and done very little It's about time we got tough with France If you don't stop the boats leaving we'll stop your boats fishing

[@rayofhope1114]

We left the EU to “take control of our borders”. Why blame France ?. What we should be doing is joining with ALL of our neighbouring countries to address this problem at the cause of the problem. Setting ourselves in isolation and then trying to blame others gets us nowhere. Biggest mistake thus country has made is voting fir this government and Brexit .

[@asificare5093]

Taking money under false pretences Coco. Don't miss that yellow bus sweetheart.​@@rayofhope1114

[@Dom-De]

BRExit caused this flood - EU countries have to accept returns between EU countries. We "Took back control" and now we're saying the French control OUR boarder !!!! Farage lied ! And OUR fishing boats NEED French fishing rights - you'd literally destroy the fishing boats by taking away their ability to fish in French waters. Oh, and most fishing in our waters is licensed to Norwegian boats. BRExit caused all this.

[@francesbrown5116]

​@@rayofhope1114 have you seen the Afghan s rioting in Paris this week .

[@biddlybongdavinport5995]

No it hasn't.

[@timfallon8226]

Top tip- don't illegally crossnthe channel in a rubber boat

[@Dom-De]

Most of the boats make it to UK shores....

[@user-bs4nr1wn2x]

He is talking twaddle….. we’ve heard all this before….. we are determined to “ STOP “ the boats says he…….. our reply is WHEN ?

[@joancollins3396]

It is not our problem.

[@Powerneck]

My hip operation will now, probably get cancelled 😞

[@christinamorgan4823]

No benefits no home that’s the message that should be sent

[@user-dq6nj1zv9h]

Stop the free hotels. Tell all Migrants in France than none of them will ever get citizenship in Uk and will never get permission to stay . And stop All family reunion

[@macdapimp83]

😂 It's deeper than just letting them in. Ask yourself WHY they let them in when it could be easily stopped if they employ the right people. That's never going to happen though because there's a reason they let them in.

[@karenhopwood891]

Smoke and mirrors. They need someone to take the fall, otherwise their cruelty and incompetence would be in plain sight.

[@macdapimp83]

@@karenhopwood891 remember distraction techniques? They're distracting everyone for a reason. What's really going on though??

[@user-un9wj6jg1x]

Migrant journey: day 1 arrive Rwanda; day 2 contact traffickers; day 3 begin return to UK. Sunak & cronies are USELESS!!!! GENERAL ELECTION NOW NOW NOW

[@mariechungoora297]

People are dying on Hospital trolleys in A&E after waiting for hours on end to receive treatment. They are not making a big issue of it as they are to the migrants who died in the channel.

[@obeanddarth]

They need to put a immigration office in France

[@mariantebb6730]

They take the risk. Our concern is the effect on our country. 😢

[@japfourme381]

They’re not doing more because they’re happy for them to come, why else would they be picking them up in the Channel and bringing them here instead of taking them back to France!!

[@andrewrowlands5840]

Oh dear, what a shame never mind.

[@simongardner3766]

The only alternative solution would be for the UK and France to agree to open a joint asylum processing centre in Paris. We would take a yearly quota and everyone one crossing the channel would be put straight back on a ship and transported back. They would be told to apply at the centre and stop wasting their money. Another solution could be 'asylum swapping', where Britain swaps it's channel crossers with a security checked but randomly selected migrant from a randomly chosen European country. That would have the effect of putting the people traffickers out of business. Who is going to pay £3000 when they could end up in Germany for example. The key is to take control back from the criminals and those that think they can just go where they like ignoring the law.

[@manichairdo9265]

Excellent thinking.

[@Dom-De]

You mean, like every EU country has? Like when we were in the EU and sent back thousands of migrants under the Dublin Agreement ? Yeah, being in the EU is great. But Farage told is to "take back control" - so this isn't the EU's problem.

[@horseman6468]

It is not my responsibility that people from poor countries risk their lives trying to move to a wealthy country.I cannot understand why the UK government does not declare no benefits or housing ,all foreign criminals to be deported on release .Just accept this country is overcrowded we dont need more people we need more .

[@ted1990]

If a civil war broke out in the UK you would be the first to run for asylum elsewhere im sure

[@horseman6468]

@@ted1990 After 22 years in British army ,5 times deployed on active Service, dont think so .What about you?

[@ted1990]

@@horseman6468 thank you for your service. But surely your experience of war can make you see why people sometimes seek to claim asylum elsewhere.

[@twothreebravo2374]

People who have crossed the whole of Europe, then died after leaving French soil and never set foot in the country in their entire lives are our problem how? And, for the record, they’re not ‘migrants’

[@iansutton8802]

How does sending people to Rwanda challenge the people smugglers? It’s like prosecuting people for getting burgled because they didn’t have a burglar alarm

[@Kramp001]

The people with the power to stop this invasion don't actually want it to stop - they're not directly affected and they don't have to bear the costs

[@Dom-De]

Yep, Millionaires like Tice, Farage and Habib are MAKING MONEY from all this with Reform memberships. And they're taking that money as 'loans' for themselves !

[@MunsterIrons]

Poor Susannah, she’s distraught, she won’t be able to sleep tonight.

[@elizabethseymour1914]

There is no will, from the politicians to stop the boats. If it so chilling, close our boarders down, end of problem.

[@Dom-De]

Yep, Millionaires like Tice, Farage and Habib are MAKING MONEY from all this with Reform memberships. And they're taking that money as 'loans' for themselves !

[@EdwardLindon]

Yep, the scourge of B&Bs in this country...

[@pram9132]

Still the French has not grasp the fact the people passed the French waters before they reach the British shore. Surely they turned a blind eye and hoped they will be safely arrive at Brish shores. Now they have to explain.....

[@boshankers12]

And here’s to many more

[@georgeh9967]

and we are supposed to care .WHY. if they werent coming in illegally they would be ok. GO HOME.

[@user-vj7xg9wp5k]

Why are they risking to come here and where are they coming from? Ireland? Whats wrong with staying at France and Spain, they decided the perilous journey when there are more than acceptable countries of refuge, lets not call it victim blaming but when you make unnecessary risks, you tend to pay heavily for it.

[@philiplloyd9451]

If Death isnt a deterrent what is A PLANE

[@user-zd9en2iy6g]

Nice🎉

[@bushwhackeddos.2703]

Imagine the absurdity of accepting people fleeing the EU, if they are wandering all through the EU, we must deem them EU citizens.

[@dubsydubs5234]

Why does that boat say border force on it? What border? What force? Looks like a recovery service to me. I recon the best way to stop the boats is to stop the boats, until you stop the boats you aren't stopping the boats so maybe try stopping the boats.

[@canugizabit2810]

Stop encouraging them with free accommodation and money !!

[@dant-vj2gl]

The establishment and their chosen leader need to be held accountable by the people. This is about politics on both sides. Torys & Labour are complicit..

[@Dom-De]

Yep, Millionaires like Tice, Farage and Habib are MAKING MONEY from all this with Reform memberships. And they're taking that money as 'loans' for themselves !

[@KeithDare]

To fly them to Rwanda they still have to come here. So any deaths are on the hands of the politicians on both sides of the channel. I feel sorry for the British people not the illegal immigrants.

[@mikefish8226]

The idea is, as they are mostly economic migrants, they'll stay in France as landing on UK soil will get them a trip to Rwanda.

[@keldsleepnot7961]

​@@mikefish8226but that's a lie isn't it. 75% of them are given asylum because they come from life threatening places!

[@stephendarlison8140]

They see this country as an easy touch

[@karenhopwood891]

​@@mikefish8226Rwanda is a tory gimmick. Nothing more. Stop falling for their lies.

[@adam7802]

@@mikefish8226 We know what the idea is, but it's probably not going to do much I would wager. I don't think anyone on any side of this debate really thinks this is going to work.

[@nicholasbirch9732]

Good

[@pauldirac808]

Yes only another half’s million left . The weather is doing the governments job .

[@davidfleming6220]

DID OCEAN QUEST SUPPLY THE DINGY?..

[@geosmith3436]

“They don’t care whether you live or die” - sounds like the Tories to me.

[@davidcooper8892]

Kalergi plan

[@Dom-De]

You know that the UK was rules by the Roman army TWICE? Also the French, the Sweds, the Danish....only redhead scots and a couple of Cornish people can say they are 'from here'. Read a book, it might stop your racism.

[@KeyBladeMaster-Dan]

(Reads thumbnail) Oh no........ anyway

[@gavinjones2965]

Isn't Australia a commonwealth country yet they still have it right

[@laurencebrowning1545]

Sending people to Rwanda doesn’t seem to be deterring anyone at all, at a cost of almost £1/2Billion! Maybe legal routes for asylum seekers might help!

[@masere]

The route they take to the safe country called France consists of many other safe countries.

[@laurencebrowning1545]

@@masere - refugees may well transit via “safe” countries but they have the right under U.N. convention to claim asylum in whichever country they choose. They often choose a country where they might have relatives, or somewhere they may speak the language & often where their religious beliefs will be accepted.

[@kokloketan1177]

Stop saying Rwanda plan won't work as it's yet to implement then you will know its effect...

[@Drunkenmeows]

😬 She has a point. IF death isn't a deterrent then how is a free flight to Africa???

[@Drunkenmeows]

@mattbuddyMattBuddyGNN people thinking anyone actually getting sent to Africa... 🤣

[@markrobson5566]

That border force boat may as well have a travelodge sign next to the union jack"

[@Alex-ng6wx]

Oh, how tragic.....

[@aleccap5946]

France is hosting the Olympics so want a clear out of unidentified illegal migrants BTW why wasn't this anti British comedy "Not" covering the St George's Day parade ? Just goes to prove what's important

[@Dom-De]

St George was a Turkish-born Roman soldier, who never visited, or heard of, "England".

[@rb1062]

​@@Dom-De Yawn!! That tired old reposte again! So what? His martyrdom was already known in Britain by the 7/8th Century when Christianity was in its infancy on our shores. Georgiou's heroism embodied the values people followed. Back then, we could only pick our saints from more established territories.

[@oldmanger]

Listen.the government know who.exactly who the gangs are, the same for the French, they can stop this illegal trade by shutting the gangs down with.immediate effect,

[@rb1062]

Yes, this is what is so galling!

[@EdwardLindon]

Goodness, if only some genius like you was in charge...

[@borleyboo5613]

My heart bleeds!!! It was their choice to attempt the crossing.

[@johnwade1095]

Such a shame.

[@geoffreyscott4510]

5 less to pay for

[@user-fh7tx6no1v]

YES.

[@S4MUELELITE]

Good 5 less hotel rooms we have to fund

[@jenih1684]

He is arguing there is 200km of difficult coast to police, yet on the video the police are standing and watching both illegal migrants and, they admit, people smugglers on the beach launching a boat!! Why aren’t they arresting any of them??

[@tobias1075]

Well-rehearsed lines from our elated politicians no longer offer solace, we can see the self destruction.

[@davidwilliams2840]

Fantastic news doesn't get any better

[@44Gherkinz]

Womp womp

[@mariechungoora297]

They chose to get in the boats though they knew it was dangerous. They have been warned before.

[@HG-tq7bf]

So far they haven’t stopped the boats absolutely useless 🤬government

[@neilmorgan3109]

Maybe they can take over Buckingham palace balmoral Kensington Palace! Why not ?

[@douglas.8271]

Someone is benifiting you can guarantee that

[@Dom-De]

Yep, Millionaires like Tice, Farage and Habib are MAKING MONEY from all this with Reform memberships. And they're taking that money as 'loans' for themselves ! And they are the ones that said we should leave the EU and don't need France to protect our boarder !!!!!

[@eyesodd]

No sympathy, sorry, not sorry.

[@ColinCorbin-sg7su]

I agree with what people are saying about the boats but I do have a heart for the children they don't no any difference we do need to save the little ones 🙋💁🙆🙅🤷🤦🙍🙎 God bless them

[@robertbest4398]

Where did they get him from not aclue he think educated people not clue crazy government Tories and labour brutal wrecked country shocking

[@Dom-De]

BRExit caused all this - Farage's fault.

[@locococo3919]

HAHAHA welcome to UK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Runner2]

Where is British navy?

[@tonyryan1574]

Such a shame.🎉

[@johnclegg4993]

Need another dinghy load of doctor's and engineer's then I guess.

[@Rockabilly999]

They shouldn't be allowed to leave the Frecnch coast, sorted !

[@HARRYYZ125]

Best news story of the day ...oh and Tommy Robinson not guilty 💪

[@dinaworkman306]

Why are you oretending to be bothered they wouldnt die if they didnt come

[@MariaHamlyn]

And?

[@The_Stranger1986]

Oh no!! Anyway.

[@karlobluesman]

it was their choice to risk coming here from war torn France!.

[@supercrazysane]

Err so if Rwanda is such a safe and welcoming country then how is it an effective deterrent 🤔

[@user-dq6nj1zv9h]

Rwanda is probably safer than UK

[@ginaroebuck3328]

And sunak just smiles and lies evvery times. Astonishing. The prime minister wants the boats

[@user-hk7bn1cr9u]

I missed the part where this is my problem. They trying to enter illegally they died, their own country should be more concerned 😊

[@roygoodwin1259]

😂If the French were doing what WE pay them to do nobody would be leaving France in boats,blame the French.

[@Dom-De]

Blame the Millionaires Tice, Farage and Habib - MAKING MONEY from all this with Reform memberships. And they're taking that money as 'loans' for themselves ! And they are the ones that said we should leave the EU and don't need France to protect our boarder !!!!!

[@MaxSlippyFist]

The first half of that comment that you are copying and pasting in the replies has nothing to do with what was said. Are you gonna pretend this didn't happen before the triggering of article 50?

[@orbsofsteel]

Thought we had a navy to protect our coast

[@ianhawtin4756]

These people died on the french side of the chanel apparently weren't they bothered