WandaVision: An Overhyped DISAPPOINTMENT

[@yuckabuck]

"If you've been victimized...you can be as horrible as you want to anyone. Basically, Twitter." I choked on my food when Gary said that!

[@Alondro77]

It's funny and sad because it's 1,000,000,000,000% accurate.

[@TheSpawnfan]

Dabi and Tomura My Hero Academia) are proof this statement is a fallacy.

[@michaelfranzgarcia7769]

what happened to consequence in western countries? thank god we have laws in 3rd world countries one reason drugs are down in my area

[@andrewconrad2859]

One of Gary's best lines yet.

[@andyz2861]

@@TheSpawnfan He was talking about Wandavision, not anything legitimately entertaining you’re describing.

[@RydiaMerchan]

"I can't read comics, its too hard. I don't know how." So... are you telling me you don't know how to read the storyboards for your movie projects?

[@redram6080]

Yes. She probably has others read it for her.

[@DetectiveBarricade]

How does someone like that even get through school? If you can't read a comic book, then surely you wouldn't be able to read any other kind of book? It's a stupid excuse. She probably meant "LOL Comic books? Those are for nerds and losers!" with maybe a hint of "notice me, Kathleen Kennedy-sempai!"

[@anvos658]

Yeah that is stupid there are only two main types and anybody with basic intellect could looks through a single comic and determine if you read it left to right or right to left. Alternatively if all else fails google is your friend for learning basic information.

[@colleen4ever]

You don't know how to read the bubbles that appear over character's heads?!?!

[@nabongobong9155]

Its just a very karen move

[@capthavic]

"I'm not the one with the guns" "They'll never know what you sacrificed" I swear every time I hear those lines I want to flip a table in rage at how insanely idiotic they are.

[@afifi2779]

She could have killed thanos

[@himathegreat2987]

@@afifi2779 the films got that wrong, thanos from the comics at base level would peel off wanda and carol manvers in a fight. He's damn Powerful !

[@afifi2779]

@@himathegreat2987 I know..I only take the line from monica "she could have killed thanos"

[@peterparker9954]

That's Hollywood for you

[@robertluna5737]

“They'll never know what you sacrificed for them” This line pissed me off so much. Poor Wanda gave up her imaginary life so she could stop enslaving innocent people against their wills. So strong. So brave.

[@RanMouri82]

IKR? "Oh wow, mystical kidnapper and mindjacker, look how stunning and brave you are for stopping your mass oppression." Give me a break.

[@bethanyh1637]

I don't even understand what she sacrificed. If she was the source of the Hex and her family, does she really need the Hex to keep them? And even assuming, for whatever stupid reason, she really needs the Hex, just remake it somewhere safer and/or without the barrier, mutations, and mind control.

[@CaptainLettuce]

It wasn't imaginary do, everything she created with her magic was real. It was limited to wandas power, but the relation, bond, and personality of those characters was real and not controlled by Wanda directly. Unlike the rest of the people living there. In fact those children were the only real people in a way, as the rest of them were turned in to merely puppets

[@asm42]

Exactly, like the obvious thing is wanda was the bad guy.

[@angelicsailor1st]

Yup and that's not even talking about her toxic self in the avengers movies

[@caldari_soldier]

Wanda accidentally blows up a building in Civil War: People fear you Wanda selfishly holds a town hostage and tortures people: ThEy WiLl nEvEr KnOw WhAt YoU sAcRiFiCeD

[@KeldorDAntrell]

Woke-ism has never made any sense.

[@caldari_soldier]

@@KeldorDAntrell Bait-and-switched-a-vision had subtle woke-ism while John Walker ft Falcon and Winter Soldier's woke BS is more in your face. Spiderman and Shang-Chi are the only hope I have left in MCU.

[@T0NYMANUEL]

@@caldari_soldier Shang chi didn't help much did it?

[@caldari_soldier]

@@T0NYMANUEL Yeah, that was another disappointment from Marvel. But at least No Way Home had some decent fan service.

[@T0NYMANUEL]

@@caldari_soldier yeah the only reason I'm still waiting to see if to continue as a Marvel fan was NWH

[@DrEnginerd1]

You know what would really subvert my expectations? A good story.

[@mflax4331]

I promise: you won't get it - ever!

[@whenpigsfly8178]

They already subverted my previous expectations of a good story. Now they might it difficult to subvert my current expectations.

[@IANGEL101I]

That and treating customers with respect. Those customers include fans as well.

[@yetanotherspuart3993]

Never gonna happen.

[@redllyon5196]

What is that? A.. good.. story?!? Not familiar with that notion. I seem to remember those in the 80's, but that was a long time ago.

[@andreycr6637]

"Ladies can do stuff now!", like kidnapping a whole damn town!!!

[@andyz2861]

Or, when the space tanks fail, just run through the Anomaly without even bothering to put a helmet back on. Because why not?

[@EnsignRedshirtRicky]

Or committing mutiny (she got US miltary members to help) without going through the proper channels, and stealing US Gov property (Rover). ​ @Andy Z - That is how the HerOh's journey starts and ends. Dumb decision gives godlike powers. The end.

[@andyz2861]

@@EnsignRedshirtRicky It saddens me to no end that feminist groups don’t complain about the characters being all the negative stereotypes of women. But then I remember how the complaints of the new Mortal Kombat movie was that Chun Li wasn’t in it.

[@yetanotherspuart3993]

@@andyz2861 Chun Li not being the Avengers is a valid complaint. (Sarcasm mode cancel)

[@andyz2861]

@@yetanotherspuart3993 You assume I’m being sarcastic. It was a real article, I think on the site Jezebel, back in February.

[@CorporalFriendlyShark]

I’m glad you included how ridiculous the ‘She could have killed Thanos’ line was. It was completely out of place, and how did they even know about it!?

[@RanMouri82]

Apparently, they were all hanging around ground zero.

[@elijahb30]

News

[@jaimelannister1797]

@@elijahb30 Yes because there were dozens of reporters around the avengers HQ

[@elijahb30]

@@jaimelannister1797 Helicopters or just somebody could have told them what was there either way it’s stupid complaint and not that big of a deal

[@elijahb30]

@SørenCast Z Ya they did know Thanos cap even brought it up in that little group in endgame and if you nitpick little stuff like that you won’t enjoy anything

[@EasyThere]

Wandavision synopsis: woman who can't control her emotional issues becomes abusive and takes hostages...

[@jeremytitus9519]

Wait is this a Marvel show or a documentary about my grandmother?

[@PrestonRyder22]

@@jeremytitus9519 or Hitler

[@blazefa.]

@Proto they’ll never know what she sacrificed

[@bamaboyz8978]

@@blazefa., easy, nothing

[@blazefa.]

@@bamaboyz8978 no! She sacrificed her fake children, and... erm yeh the fake children.

[@ReasonablySkeptic]

Classic MCU Stories: (Person is flawed -> Person goes though trials -> Person Grows -> Person is hero) New M-SHE-U Stories: (Woman is hurt -> Woman commits unspeakable atrocities - Woman blames it on men and/or white men -> Woman learns nothing because she was always perfect the way she was)

[@dhruv9370]

Spot on...but "They'll never know what you sacrificed for them" "It could've been thousands more" "She could've killed Thanos"

[@SumedhDhabale]

MsheU 😂

[@murdoxvsp6023]

Thor is gay

[@kool4209]

Kinda sounds like how there making society :O

[@Emrys2526]

Typical patriarchal men in this sub comments section who can't see a woman getting more powerful/shows..... It's funny 🤣✨

[@cthulhutentacles4994]

I didn’t watch the finale, but my friends were very disappointed, and I saw a lot of disappointment on the internet too. Then they throw away Quicksilver for a Bohner joke? Are you kidding me??! No multiverse? 😶

[@rahmellbrown162]

Seriously, thy was so disappointing. The most disappointing moment, and some people really “Think” it was funny but it wasn’t at all. Very childish and stupid, seeing what they could’ve did with it

[@nahtesalinas1917]

It was a horrible ending. So much potential *wasted*

[@project9701]

It was childish, it was a cheap shot, and they had THE setup to justify the introduction of mutants into the MCU. And, we're seeing the prep work for an Amy Pascal "Glass Ceiling"-type superhero franchise of all-female heroes.

[@autobee23]

I got the opposite response with my friends. They really loved the show and the ending, but they don't know Marvel all that well and they said when I told them the writer didn't know shit was like "Guess that's why we enjoyed it a lot." I'm hesitant to even watch the show because I know a good chunk about Marvel comics.

[@joeymobb8438]

@@autobee23 Don't bother then, you'll be annoyed and ultimately disappointed.

[@bretr7327]

It just reinforces the notion that your emotions are more important than the lives and freedom of other people. Sounds like Twitter.

[@peterconway6584]

Completely Woke Culture.

[@gregsmith7949]

They are speaking "their truth" 🤣

[@RanMouri82]

Thank you! It really bugged me that, at the end, Wanda was more concerned about what the townspeople thought of her than remorseful for doing *anything* to them! What the hell?!

[@SheldonAdama17]

Disney is about to pay the price for their lack of Vision

[@samsh0-q3a]

No they won't, they'll pull out another set of shiny keys and these goofballs will fall for it all over again "Well maybe this time it won't be terrible" and then it's terrible "WhO cOuLd HaVe sEeN tHiS cOmInG?"

[@SheldonAdama17]

@@samsh0-q3a r/whooooosh

[@rosehavenfarm2969]

Ba-dum CHING...

[@Prop]

Bravo!!

[@12Daniel34]

@@SheldonAdama17 I think he lacks the Vision for comedy

[@brooklyngal6334]

I *love* how Agatha alludes to the witchcraft trials but let's just erase the fact that 7 men died accused also.

[@grumpyweds443]

People forget witchcraft was applicable to both men and women. Also if they want to talk about people killed and imprisoned throughout history for going against religious doctrine, men for the win.

[@andyz2861]

Same way it gets forgotten that Christians stopped the Salem Witch Trials.

[@StarWarsomania]

@@andyz2861 I mean, I don't think you get praise as a group for stopping something your group started... Especially if it's not something that changed over time. If you are simply saying "members of group X did Bad Thing, and other members of group X stopped them".

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

Between a quarter and third of all witches executed during the Early Modern witch hunts were men. I think we can say that misogyny played a role but there were other more important factors to take into account. For witch hunts that kill almost exclusively women you have to look to Sub-Saharan Africa. Over the past 75 years the body count racked up dwarfs what happened in Europe and North America during their witch hunt craze. In addition to Sub-Saharan Africa witch hunts are still ongoing in India and Papua New Guinea.

[@iamgroot2810]

The worst thing about the show is that the show keeps trying to portray Wanda as a hero, when she's clearly not. Oh poor Wanda gave up her imaginary life, as if the lives of all the hostages she mind raped don't matter.

[@magikforce4069]

She never was hero,so stop considering her one

[@wwehulk8798]

@@magikforce4069 They didn't say she was, they're saying the show should watch their implications.

[@SpideyfanX]

@@magikforce4069 Supida's not the one calling her a hero. It's those stupid Wanda and M-She-U Stans that are calling her a hero.

[@godzillagurus576]

@@magikforce4069 thats the point. Use your eyes

[@apson1]

She’s not a hero her arc is turning into a full blown villain you’re just too stupid to see that

[@stephen8805]

Gotta love how Marvel completely wasted Quicksilver, TWICE!!

[@VirtueCry]

They tried to be clever and get the audiences hopes up to make us feel like Wanda does to get her brother back by making us feel like we're getting the good quicksilver. It was... an idea, but one that was meant to purposefully disappoint the audience. It's like making the show bad on purpose.

[@nahtesalinas1917]

They aren't done. The writing is only going to get *worse* in future films and shows.

[@DeusExMau5]

No no no guys, it was not a waste is the fans fault because you know ... fans bad, shity screenplay is impossible was the fans theorys

[@SheldonAdama17]

I didn’t see that coming...

[@RanockIronfist]

I am not sure there is much to quicksilver without his daddy issues, and you can't have those daddy issues if you don't put in Magneto.

[@maineman5757]

The woman who wrote Wanda Vision didn't even know who Mephisto was until after she finished the story. Why does Marvel keep hiring people like this to write their material? It's like all these people do is skim a wiki and start pulling characters and from it without knowing any of the backstory.

[@GingerZombie29]

Those morons didn't even skim a wiki. I did that with a lot of characters and know more than they do, it apears.

[@MoostachedSaiyanPrince]

I doubt they even skim a wiki. I'm a casual fan of comics at best, but I KNOW that I still have more comic knowledge than most of Marvels writers. I bet what they do is they take the character they're writing for and do a Google search for villains with similar power sets and stop looking as soon as they see one that they figure they can use as a vehicle for their political propaganda. Seriously, some of the only times a non-team MCU movie had a villain who wasn't just an evil version of the main character were the Thor movies and Iron Man 3. I would also say Captain Marvel, but I have no idea who the villain of that movie was (besides the patriarchy) because I didn't watch it, and never will.

[@HisEntropicHighness]

They didn't hire her on merit. She got the job because she had the right genitals. It's really simple actually.

[@stagalgiz1097]

See the current incarnation of what they call Star Trek... See Star Wars... They don't care, they just hire whoever shares their political viewpoints rather than, I don't know, forgoing all of that BS and telling a good story. Something that doesn't preach one viewpoint or another, but let's you think for yourself. Is that too much to ask for?....it is.. oh, well in that case.

[@christopherjones5446]

It’s not just Marvel. It seems that most genre IP’s are being run by and hiring people who, best case scenario, don’t know or care about the source material, or worst case scenario, they have an open disdain for the IP they’re running, its past creators, and its fan base. Since when has the opposite of customer service become a mission statement?

[@circusandbread]

So Vision had enough money before the snap to buy property, but Falcon didn’t have any money and couldn’t get a loan because the Avengers never paid him?

[@MikeNobody]

Maybe a had some spare vibranium to sell. That stuff is expensive!

[@GigglingStoners]

Well duh, they dont pay black people cause mah white supremacy

[@lylepetersen814]

No. Falcon blew all his money on fuel for wings. And he had to buy it himself and couldn't get a loan because of white supreme sandwiches. Or something.

[@reaganabroad4952]

I thought the same thing.

[@titanu9188]

@@MikeNobody Ah, so vision transitioned eh?

[@colleen4ever]

12:23- In honesty, that could work if Wanda was remorseful over what she did at the end and had a "My God, what have I done?" moment instead of what the writers did here. She could have just surrendered and left with Monica to her fate. That would have been a much more powerful ending.

[@andyz2861]

Yeah, but that’s not what supervillains do.

[@garywintle8023]

She did have a remorseful moment, it was pretty clear she felt horror at he Darkhold spells (all the Hex spells came from the Darkhold, obviously). Then she would never find out where the chaos magic came from, who gave it to her. Besides, SWORD wants the chaos magic and the Darkhold, so they would turn her into a weapon, and use the Darkhold as a weapon. I don't think Chthon is going to sit back and let some puny humans get in his way. There's a 90% likelihood SWORD would try to harness the Power of Chthon out of greed.

[@veddate997]

@@garywintle8023 SWORD in comics is not this villainous...they really are ruining this, aren't they?

[@Galgus2000]

Writers should be professionals or fans, ideally both. A professional would read and respect the source material because they're dedicated and competent, and a fan would already know the story and care about the characters enough to try to do them justice. Instead we get hacks who don't know or care about what they're writing.

[@RanMouri82]

Exactly! A true professional does research so they know what the heck they're writing about.

[@rebekahscheu4245]

Well spoken!

[@WannabeWryter]

Actually with number if easter eggs they can’t not be fans. Flawed perhaps but not bad.

[@paulosullivan3472]

These people cannot help writing the heros as villains because the writers are villains so they cannot conceive of what it means to be a true hero.

[@ChadKakashi]

Preach.

[@garywintle8023]

I got the impression Wanda intends to find, confront, and destroy the creator of Chaos Magic.

[@singethecringe5873]

Hollywood’s moral compass is more messed up than ever. They exemplify the classic villains who think they are the misunderstood heroes.

[@billybadass3056]

um.... we ARE talking about the same place that has kidnapped children who are used for ceremonial sacrifices so like, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT NOW??!!!LMAO!!!!??

[@samsh0-q3a]

They're such F'd up people but they're so packed into their little bubble they think the rest of us think like they do so they project their own self hatred on the rest of the country.

[@Victor-vx2hl]

There’s literally a LEGAL cannibal club in hollyweird, what do you expect?

[@MoostachedSaiyanPrince]

So they're basically the real life equivalent of Handsome Jack. Except that they're not likeable, funny, or entertaining.

[@surveyingfleaproductions]

villains are heros, to the bad guys.

[@arandy123]

"I'm not a good comic book reader...." Yeah, you really need a P.H.D to read comic books. These people... you can't make this shit up.

[@coloradospacegeek4226]

No kidding. I was reading comic books at the age of 4 FFS. How does she not know how to read the panels?

[@RanMouri82]

She couldn't be bothered to look up a freaking wiki while being paid to make a comic book show!

[@RanMouri82]

@@coloradospacegeek4226 Maybe she confuses it with manga and reads it backwards. 😂

[@mrsanatra1]

You get paid big money to simply pick up source material comic books, speak to nerds & geeks and create wonderful stories....a dream job and these idiots STILL F it up smh. Amazing

[@TheMaleRei]

@@mrsanatra1 IMNSHO she - whatever her name was and I can't be bothered to look it up - had this thought in her head: "I hate comic books, I hate their material, I hate their audience, I hate everything about them. Oh, crap, I can't say that out loud - I'd better say something else, something that no interviewer will *ever* call me out on, because they'll be cancelled for misogyny."

[@AlexanderEVtrainer]

"...the first thing to come out since End Game" It's ok Gary, no one else remembers Spiderman Far From Home either.

[@MetalMadness_00]

MCU Spider-Man is such a bust

[@andyz2861]

Banish Michelle and bring us Mary Jane!

[@asv520]

@@MetalMadness_00 worst spider man ever.....

[@themimsy]

@@MetalMadness_00 wdym? I love Tom Holland's Peter Parker

[@MetalMadness_00]

@@themimsy his character screams nothing of spider-man just an annoying unfunny brat who needs everyone else to fix his problems

[@weareharbinger914]

God, some of those lines are so cringe "You're the ones with the guns" says the woman with thousands of mind controlled hostages. "It could have been thousands more!"...your honour, i know this guy killed thirty people, but he could have killed dozens more and he didn't! Dafuq.

[@garywintle8023]

Its a callback to when she visited SWORD and they threatened her without any provocation, and they were abusing Vision's corpse. Fact is, SWORD caused this mess by refusing to allow Vision to have a funeral and burial, and the Avengers caused it by not leaving Vision in Wakanda, where his body would have been kept safe. To free the town, she would have to kill Vision and her children. Wanda behaved as most people would; eventually doing the right thing, but hesitating Fact is, Wanda did not know she was using magic, had little idea of what she was doing, a fact that, if we look up the comics, can be blamed on Agamotto, who destroyed all knowledge of chaos magic and told sorcerers to tell themselves a lie that it did not exist. The total failure of the Kamar Taj sorcerers to help Wanda much earlier is something they will have to explain. Strange and the sorcerers pretty much left an open goal for Chthon to conquer the Earth.

[@johnbearross]

Wandavision could have been the golden spike that united the MCU and the X-Men Mutant Movies. Seeing Quicksilver make the jump, along with Wanda's reality-bending powers, gave me hope that they could hand-wave something, and make the fusion happen. Then, they proceeded to screw the pooch. I'm done.

[@elijahb30]

To be fair this wasn’t the original first Disney plus and it was supposed to come out after Eternals so if they weren’t already established in Eternals they most likely would be in mom

[@redcr24]

Saw it yesterday and yes, my disappointment stems from there.

[@tomasllonaa]

Instead what do we get? A boner joke 😅

or she would get help from experienced mutants

[@Niko-kq6lv]

I love your comment

[@horrormike]

The moral of this story is: For God's sake, don't give any more money to Disney.

[@gallienus172]

Disney was more entertaining, wholesome, and pro American ideals when the racist bastard that started the company was running things.

[@lucastrask2838]

@@gallienus172 Because the 'racist' 'bastard' was a pretty good guy and living in a different time. He also liked people and the country. The 'un-racist' or super racist true bastards running things now hate people and the country.

[@ronniejdio9411]

$0 from me

[@VinothKumar-zh7wx]

@@gallienus172 Speaking of Racism, it sucks how they force feed Black and White issues to us viewers in Falcon and Winter Soldier.. every other Sentence is and going to be about that.. also they are making a White Character to go bad unnecessarily so that the Black character can portray as Good.. and BTW i'm brown,

[@horrormike]

Yes, you could sense the racism on the "It's a small world" ride;)

[@ooPHOENIXoo]

You hit the nail on the head. They had us for a second and then the M-She-U started protruding and oozing out!! I cancelled my Disney plus after Gina’s cutting, so I’m done with them for now. Could careless

[@samsh0-q3a]

>for now

[@joeymobb8438]

Couldn't care less

[@bmejia837]

I agree

[@Melodyofthesea78]

Isn't Wanda the villian of the show though? That's what I got out of it.

[@trongleduc2000]

Yes? The show was aware of that

[@canebro1]

That makes Monica the villains right hand woman? Sounds about right as well.

[@aegaeon117]

She is becoming a villain and I would have said the same thing to keep her mentally stable because, she's essentially has the power of a God now. In the comics she said "no more mutants" and that was it for the mutants.

[@someoneyoullmeeteventually6834]

yeah lmao, this vid is TOO critical than it's supposed to be

[@Randomperson11121]

@@someoneyoullmeeteventually6834 as you can see, the show frames her to be the sympathetic protagonist with every one siding with her including Darcy, woo and Monica and with the astounding line “they’ll never know what you sacrificed for them” same with freckle Jesus of the flag smashers in falcon and winter soldier, after bombing multiple shelters and setting a car full of hostages on fire they still frame her as a sympathetic character by Sam carrying her corpse right after she tried to shoot him and leaving an injured Sharon to fend for herself because he wants to go explain to the grc how sympathetic she is

[@amile3643]

Jimmy Woo came across as a male femininst and I found myself in a weird mix of both being creeped out and repulsed at the same time. Didn't help that the whole SWORD arc wasn't compelling in the slightest.

[@bmejia837]

I agree

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

Jimmy Woo in the comics is an awesome character. Not sure why they turned him into this.

[@LuminousMindGames]

The fact she did all those horrific things obviously shouldn't have been excused but they could've salvaged it by turning her into a villain

[@redram6080]

That's the direction I thought they were going with this. Needless to say I'm very disappointed

[@welovepopculture5821]

But then it wouldn't be a power fantasy for feminazis. Remember: in Hollywood only man can be evil. Female villains are always given a pass (think of the mass murdering witch in Mulan, for example...)

[@panchigancedo6247]

Nah, that would not work after Endgame. You just don't leave an entire life of values like that. However, someone with that much power in the throes of immense grief, could create an alternate situation to appease the pain. The good part of the story would have been how to draw her out of her grief and back to reality.

[@RanMouri82]

Exactly! I would've been on board with that! Considering how filmmakers keep botching the Dark Phoenix plotline from the X-Men, WandaVision could've been an example of how it's done! But nope, opportunity wasted.

[@RanMouri82]

@@panchigancedo6247 All they needed to do was make Scarlet Witch face consequences. Instead, we see the S.W.O.R.D. director and Agatha get theirs while Wanda just walks away.

[@thewolfofwallstreet627]

I love how nobody in Wandavision mentions how Thor came close to killing thanos if he only aimed for his head instead of his chest, but nah screw him. He's a man. We ain't going to acknowledge that he almost killed thanos or could've taken him out.

[@RanMouri82]

Plus the MCU already took a massive dump on Thor by turning him into a tubby drunkard.

[@ethandalton6480]

The reason no one mentioned it is because its a story about Wanda and Vision, not Thor

[@thewolfofwallstreet627]

@@ethandalton6480 yet they brought up Captain marvel and claimed how she was close to beating up thanos in a show that wasn't even about her either. :/

[@outhouse.wholesaler]

Well that's because they're trying to get people to like captain marvel since hardly anyone likes her, so they think if they keep telling us how awesome she is that we'll all be brainwashed into thinking she's actually cool.

[@lainiwakura1776]

And Thanos has the Infinity Gauntlet then. When Wanda took him on, he didn't have it. So who's really the most powerful?

[@theanimeslayer3999]

Lets all forgive Wanda for enslaving an entire town because she was upset. Modern writers write heroes as villains without any sense of irony. The best thing about the show was Paul Bettany and Elizabeth Olsen, they deserved better!

[@VirtueCry]

We're not suppose to forgive her, just understand her. She's not a cut and dry villain or hero. Even in the comics she regularly transitions to villain and back again. One story line has her committing genocide against all mutants, killing or removing the powers from all mutant kind.

[@evenhartwick4422]

Ta Nahisis Coates a man who felt zero pitty for the people jumping from the windows of the upper floors on 9/11 is now writing a Superman movie. of course they write heros like villains they are villains themselves heartless soulless villains

[@tendoukiryu6989]

Close it’s just the women characters.

[@JaketheJust]

If there is a story where hero is a villain, then make it a story about redemption. Loki was a villain that caused mayhem and tried to steal power over jealousy. But he redeemed himself by trying to save his brother from Thanos. He lived as a villain but died as a hero

[@attilapataki46]

they made Jordan Peterson the red skull... let that sink in

[@khfan4life365]

Not gonna lie, I was rooting for Hayward. Yeah, his methods started as unorthodox, but he wanted to save Westview. I was disappointed when they made him cartoonishly evil.

[@SOULFORESAKER]

The only relationship that worked in mcu was stark and pepper.

[@magikforce4069]

Wanda and Vision are the worst MCU couple to exist

[@magikforce4069]

I actually kinda like Hope and Scott to,but pretty much the rest were just horrible

[@BigfootUnibrowMan]

Happy and Aunt May! Lol

[@Slitheringpeanut]

Kevin Feige ALWAYS wanted to go to All New All Different. Been saying that for years.

[@jojomojofofo]

I was expecting Mephisto. I did not get Mephisto. Was highly disappointed. The writer didn’t even know who Mephisto is.

[@mflax4331]

The writer didn't know ANY comics. How can you hire somebody to write a comic movie if that person does not know comics? That is what is destroying your IPs and your revenues. And frankly, you earn that for being fools.

[@garywintle8023]

I was expecting Chthon and the Darkhold, not Mephisto.

[@desertbluffs7113]

And the moral is: If you are victims you can do no wrong !

[@Valelacerte]

Assigning woke scriptwriters to classic stories and characters is like a mechanic looking under the hood of your car and exclaiming, _”Well, I don’t really know what all these bits of metal are for; I must be a real disappointment to you. However, I find their arrangement fascinating and colourful and can’t wait to reimagine them!”_

[@avanishdutta2658]

It's not the media that is woke, it's us. Go on, keep ranting about this in youthbe comments. It's as if everything is going to change. For me, this is one of the best mcu shows. This sets her up as a villain, far more dangerous and they will try to stop her. But not now. False promises are made to those who believe in them.

[@trongleduc2000]

wandavision =/= captain marvel lmaoo stop associating wanda with wokeness

[@bmejia837]

@@avanishdutta2658 its not the media thats woke??? Dumbass logic

[@andnowawordfromoursponsors4439]

“They’ll never know what you sacrificed for them” Because if you told them you would realise just how stupid it would fucking sound

[@lqcrow]

I literally laughed out loud when Monica "Broke through a barrier" to get into the town.

[@andyz2861]

The moral of the story: if your attempts to do something safely fail, don’t even bother putting on a helmet and just run through. Nothing bad will happen because none of the protagonists are ever in any real danger.

[@rickyrayrosenberg420]

@@andyz2861 These are women. If you put them in any kind of actual danger that is sexism or something.

[@Victor-vx2hl]

I cringed so much I almost had a seizure

[@mrpants5462]

Lol. " your top of your class, your so smart, your the best monica" ....ghost voices

[@andyz2861]

@@mrpants5462 We can see how smart she is, too, in that she forgets to even put the helmet of her freaking spacesuit on before running headlong into the Anomaly. Smart people are easily identified by doing really stupid things and making idiotic mistakes, right?

[@TheGreatDreamer1937]

This honestly felt like a CW show, Monica breaking through the barrier with the power of friendship.

[@bethanyh1637]

A CW show would have had more lesbians.

[@RanMouri82]

@@bethanyh1637 And cheap CGI.

[@jdtsb8856]

Hey, don't insult CW.

[@aaravshah4432]

@@jdtsb8856 that shit trash lmao

[@jdtsb8856]

@@aaravshah4432 exactly

[@hmvd22]

Congratulations, Disney+. You got CW level writers. Did I say “congratulations”? No, I meant “my condolences”.

[@chicostephenson]

the end does sound like something the CW would do.

[@Victor-vx2hl]

Shit, even the CW has better writing than this at times

[@damnburger7351]

After seeing these shitty mcu shows I think I am ready for watching The flash season 4.

[@ScoobyandShaggy5554]

The whole point of phase 4 is to make superheroes look bad and show that people don’t need them

[@Dev-zr8si]

Arrow s1 and s2, and Flash s1 are really good

[@tinyguy9398]

The sad thing is this looked like it could have been somewhat decent if they didn't screw it all up at the last minute. It would be really interesting if they would have just ran with the "a person, unable to handle mourning a horrible loss, turns to evil" plot line and ended it with her being an anti hero, with where she stands as an individual being unresolved. It would have been so much more fun and lucrative for them then to explore the Scarlet Witch's redemption arc in a subsequent series and they could have made more money with the character because people like their villains to be complex and it can be pretty entertaining to see a compelling redemption arc done right. What did Wanda learn from the atrocities she committed? Can she apply what she learned to stand up to an even greater villain, exploiting that villain's weakness because she knows all too well that weakness in herself? But instead of going with deep they went with woke and spent any capital they might have gained in the initial run up to bolster their M-She-U bullshit. Oh well. Their loss.

[@Linkman247]

So it seems like end game really was the end. Glad we got a decent end for 10 years of buildup. Because things look dire going forward.

[@m.k.738]

I always wondered why they didn’t build the relationship between Hawkeye and Wanda. There was a good setup between the movies that was started and just got left hanging. Hawkeye gave her the speech in Ultron to get her fighting, then Quicksilver sacrificed himself to save him in the end and he named his son after him and Natasha. He was the one that convinced her to side with them in Civil War. There could have been a really good friendship/older brother relationship that would have made more sense than what they did. Just my opinion.

[@afriendofepicproportions]

I was genuinely surprised they didn't go with that. I expected the WandaVision finale to involve Clint showing up and talking Wanda down from her grief.

[@MrNoob-ev4kt]

@@afriendofepicproportions but tbh the show was abt Wanda and Vision and Wanda’s grief and trauma, and suddenly clint comes in and fixes everything by calming Wanda, not sure how’d that work 🤷‍♂️

[@sleepybeanz5078]

@@MrNoob-ev4kt if you can't see how it works, then you aren't thinking creatively enough.

[@MrNoob-ev4kt]

@@sleepybeanz5078 like I mentioned, wanda and vision, not clint coming in last minute and saves the day

[@Ashkihyena]

The MCU died with Endgame, change my mind.

[@johncarvacho2861]

nah bro wandavision sucks but the falcon and the winter soldier is super good

[@SiddharthShenoy]

Nah, it went downhill after infinity war, endgame was a small spike uphill, FFH was a massive one (it was great) everything after that is dumbass virtue signaling and crap.

[@eatin_a_keyboard]

Nwh wants to know your location

[@cowboys19js]

I agreed until I saw no way home

[@aasamspb967]

Hawkeye, No way home, Shang Chi, Loki, falcon and winter soldier, what if

[@readsomebooks666]

Honestly, this strikes me as the studio putting the kibosh on the original script. WandaVision could've worked if they’d followed through on the concept of Wanda going mad and becoming a tragic villain.

[@andyz2861]

Like Dark Phoenix, an actual good Marvel story? That was what I initially hoped I was watching.

[@GingerZombie29]

I think that's what people wanted. I know I did. It would have been great. But no. They went and gave us this.

[@trajanthegreat2928]

Having seen a lot of these SJW writers' works, I'm pretty sure that this was the original script. They didn't even think that Wanda was in the wrong, and so never thought how other people would see her actions. Same thing has happened with Captain Marvel (at least Marvel cut the worst scene for that out of the actual film) and Batwoman.

[@andyz2861]

@@trajanthegreat2928 What was the cut scene from Captain Marvel?

[@trajanthegreat2928]

@@andyz2861 The one where she's hurting the Don and forces him to give her his bike. Also I forgot to add Wonder Woman to the list from WW84, how could I forget.

[@jtorres5381]

Why isn't there a producer who has the balls, to make a top hero movie and stop making it kid friendly! Nolan's Batman, 1st deadpool...

[@ryanatorryanson9535]

The first 3 episodes were really good. Trying to figure out what the hell was going on was fun. Then it devolved into the normal Marvel superhero trope.

[@BadAtTeaDude]

When I think of what goes on in a Disney pitch meeting concerning any product they produce and pleasing their fans, a Conan the Barbarian quote comes to mind. "What is good for Disney?" "Crush your viewership, see them miserable before you, and hear the lamentation of the fanbase!"

[@Red_Lanterns_Rage]

those aren't lamentations, those are grievances.....LMAO! 😈

[@yetanotherspuart3993]

Wait, you got a recording with Bob Igor? Amazing.

[@justinmccurdy9319]

Well, I'm glad I listened to my gut and didn't hop on the WandaVision bandwagon.

[@boonslang6689]

Too bad hopped on and wasted my time. I had to fast forward so many scenes just to finish this boring and dumb series. Truly a disaster. I don't understand if general viewing people have gone dumber or I have become a smarter viewer lol. I was watching Shadow and Bone on Netflix last night and the first two episodes are already better than this entire stupid show.

[@fqb3668]

Instead of Mefisto, why not Mr Sinister: we already have "new mutant" movie and the scene after credits with "essex foundation"...

[@panchigancedo6247]

Mr. Sinister would have been awesome!!!!

[@Sinsteel]

I think the moral of the story is that a woman's emotional state is completely valid, and everyone else can get bent.

[@randyc750]

I went from not caring about that show at all to caring even less.

[@Declan_Lyons]

"What, are they lesbians!?" Man, that caught me off guard.

[@HisEntropicHighness]

I know. It's the closest he's ever come to based.

[@nicarde88]

I think it’s in reference to the Batwoman show and how quickly the titular character sets up with disposable side characters.

[@janetracer]

As a lesbian I know I should be outraged but... It's completely true.

[@parkinglot612]

M-SHE-U, the defining era of dissapointment.

[@1988foxtrot]

And declining box office returns.

[@cankhovich1796]

As the Fempire crumbles

[@gidondejong1802]

@@cankhovich1796 Yep and only simps will now watch these fake movies.

[@gidondejong1802]

@@1988foxtrot Disney has been declining since the woke bs started.

[@cankhovich1796]

@@gidondejong1802 wait for crap product, consume crap product, bang head against wall, repeat

[@NeinBreaker]

So, I missed nothing good by ignoring this series. Good to know.

[@GreatUSTreasureHunt]

Shame they couldn't have Wanda be revealed exactly as in the show...but with the message being "you're mentally ill and need to seek help" instead of "they'll never know what you did for them." Imagine getting to the second to last episode and realizing (before the character does) that you've been rooting for the mentally ill villain the whole time. And then she's defeated in the final episode.

[@joshuabonesteel2303]

I'm pretty sure Strange could have beaten Thanos if he hadn't been nerfed for two movies. He had the time stone in the first battle and didn't even use it, because it was all part of the plan. The second battle sidelines him to play the part of a dam. Really looking forward to him being misused in his own movie.

[@babbit09]

I joke about how there was only one way to win because in every other timeline he looked into the TVA would just show up and CTRL+ALT+DELETE the universe till they took that one path.

[@user-gp9gp5iw2u]

R u a psychic?

[@Furiafelina]

I'm just glad I didn't lose any of my time watching Wanda Vision. Thanks for sacrificing yourself on our behalf.

[@olafontart]

100% agree. The fan theories were way more creative and interesting than the Wandavision writers.

[@loviatar9]

Sounds like GoT. Matter of fact, this last episode of WandaVision reminds me of GoT s.8

[@Victor-vx2hl]

The fact that mephisto wasn’t apart of the story with her children, is actually a terrible decision. He was integral to that story in the comics

[@99Michael]

"Send him to the cornfield, Billy" Good Life ,Twilight Zone 1961

[@andyz2861]

So glad I’m not the only one who got reminded of that TZ episode by this show.

[@yourmuslimuncle5692]

Miss those Twilight Zone marathons

[@andyz2861]

@@yourmuslimuncle5692 I miss the days when Marvel’s “heroes” didn’t have the morals of the monsters in Twilight Zone shows.

[@yourmuslimuncle5692]

@@andyz2861 you and me both brother, you and me both🙏🏻

[@RanMouri82]

I'm about to beg the kid to send *me* to the cornfield. Media is a mess.

[@GR3GORY90]

So, let me see if I got this right: Wanda, feeling grief over the loss of vision, a man we barely know dies. So she enslaves a town of thousands of adults and hundreds of children. Then gets away Scott free in the end. While the villain is a government agent who illegally builds vision back up to stop her and free the citizens is portrayed as the one in the wrong. Also, the show runner planted these theories that were better then the result. Plus she didn't know about one of the villains, characters because she couldn't read a comic book? I'm pretty sure you have to know something about the job before taking it.

[@yellowdevil8396]

apparently not. when you dont find out about mephisto until the media is asking you then something is wrong XD the irony... "lets film this fly and other devil references for no reason. it means nothing but we should include it anyway." XD not even kevin feige pointed it out to them! shows how little he is involved i guess because he would have warned her at least if he knew it himself.

[@GreatUSTreasureHunt]

How did the monitors know "who came close" to defeating Thanos? Were there cameras beaming the battle to the world? Ohhhhh wait...they watched the *movie*.

[@metalmike350z]

Just here to support Gary and the algorithm

[@biffbamboo]

In a nutshell, somebody at Marvel thought WandaVision/Television and the rest pretty much wrote itself. The only problem was that at some point, someone was going to have to actually sit down and write them back out of it again. No easy task for a generation that grew up watching instead of reading.

[@flying-magpie]

ok boomer

[@Martijn_Steinpatz]

"From now on, we can call Disney+, D+" SAVAGE

[@TwentyPercentDash]

I enjoyed WandaVision until it fell apart in the final episode.

[@jeremielebrun3637]

i can't believe the level of incompetence, when the people who are adapting a story for the screen don't even bother to read the said story!

[@donaldsmith8648]

So vision was basically wanda's B.O.B.. Battery operated boy and Quick SILVER her brother was a Bohner.. 😆

[@thewolfofwallstreet627]

You should watch Amazing Lucas' review of this show on youtube. he sums it up perfectly when he says "You want to know what Wandavision is about? It's about a woman, who can't get over a man. That's it! So she creates a fictional world to live in and you're just part of it. Everyone has to play along with it. How is that any different from any other woman who can't get over a man?"

[@donaldsmith8648]

@@thewolfofwallstreet627 gonna watch it now thank you

[@thewolfofwallstreet627]

@@donaldsmith8648 your welcome

[@NotMyRealName6]

I'll do you one better. I _loved_ the original Carol Danvers, both in the comics and the Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon. The version that was everything a strong female character should be, which is why that was all stripped away so she could be turned into essentially a parody of strong female characters, a parody the writers want you to think _isn't_ a parody.

[@welovepopculture5821]

IKR? Wasn't "Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes" a truly great cartoon? Shame they only did 2 seasons, cause all the characters were spot on. And the plotlines from the comics were done much better than the MCU! Look at the skrulls! The Secret Invasion on "Earths' M.H." was awesome; and the MCU gave us those lame boring skrulls...

[@NotMyRealName6]

@@welovepopculture5821 Worst part, they left a major plot point unresolved.

[@1978garfield]

For some reason Hollywood's idea of a "strong woman" looks a lot like a weak man.

[@FlorasMori]

Earths mightiest heroes was what originally made me excited for captain marvel. Really wish they would’ve taken notes for her from the show.

[@NotMyRealName6]

@@FlorasMori Ms. Marvel in EMH is everything you'd want in the character. Beautiful, snarky, acting like the mother/big sister figure on the team, and not afraid to show off her body. The classic costume that cartoon adapted was a way for Carol to express herself in ways she couldn't in her normal life. Same goes for classic She-Hulk.

[@ZaronNitro]

I personally enjoyed it. Wanda and *especially* Vision were a big highlight for me. I definitely have criticisms, though. Namely: - The joke conclusion of the "X-Men" Quicksilver. - Agatha after her reveal. - Hayward. - The wasted potential of the final fight (Seriously, they missed the chance to have Westview constantly switching and morphing between decades due to Wanda's struggle fighting Agatha - seeing as the concept was set up in a previous episode.) - And, of course, Wanda not facing any consequences to her actions.

[@yetanotherspuart3993]

Apparently, no one is strong enough to stop Wanda, so no, she should not face any consequences. -show defenders.

[@matrixrevolution2600]

All phase 4 of the MSheU was an insult of my intelligence.

[@MinecraftIsLoveMinecraftIsLife]

the only good aspects of wandavision were elizabeth olsen and paul bettany's performances and agatha's theme tune. elizabeth and paul's acting was just spectacular and the song was so catchy. other than that, plus some good mystery in the first few episodes, there isn't much else to it. the moral of the story isn't even good. wanda takes out her negative emotions in abusive and toxic ways and never deals with them positively. in the end she just isolates herself in the mountains which is still toxic behaviour.

[@doctorajaguar]

"...Basically, Twitter" omg 🤣🤣

[@Zathren]

I mean . . . yeah. All of Marvel is basically done. Finished with Endgame. To be fair, it really ended with Captain Marvel, but we had to see the mediocre conclusion of the franchise.

[@MellowFungus]

My opinion of endgame worsens with every passing day...

[@veddate997]

It ended at infinity war for me lmao

[@fyodordochievsky4376]

b b but... black Cap tho?

[@marvelelite5009]

Thank you for your review of the show, I haven't seen it and now I no longer plan to. With so many TV shows, movies and iconic characters being ruined by these agendas I find it easier and simpler to just stick with reading the comics.

[@welovepopculture5821]

The good original comics. Not the garbage they publish now, cause that's the same shit as the shows and movies: feminazi indoctrination everywhere.

[@marvelelite5009]

@@welovepopculture5821 I completely agree, I love the original old school comics

[@DerezzedMan]

"we cannot have men fight women" Snyder: HOLD MY FAORA!

[@JfkNeedsWindWall]

Why was a woman who held thousands of people hostage the protagonist?

[@ian1585]

These were my views as I watched this show each Friday. I thought I was going crazy as everybody seemed to ignore these flaws and it was more evident when I rewatched the show after all the episodes were released. I laughed so much through this especially the one about the parents sprinting out of the barrier abandoning their kids 🤦

[@mrpants5462]

The main theme of wandavision... Monica rambeau is the besstest evarrrr

[@Victor-vx2hl]

It’s super annoying even more so considering that she’s actually a pretty dope character in old comics

[@ItachiUchiha-ut6xj]

@@Victor-vx2hl exactly! But in the comics she earned it.

[@mrpants5462]

@Gentleman Murk that's what I want in my action shows. Calmly talking it out and coming to an understanding. Hopefully the ufc and boxing will do this too. We will be one step closer to our safe space commie eutopia

[@ItachiUchiha-ut6xj]

@Gentleman Murk by being a far better character. She didnt literally work for her powers but she was way more interesting which in turn makes it easier to accept her op powers.

[@ItachiUchiha-ut6xj]

@Gentleman Murk Dude just read the comics and if you did you apparently didn't like her. This is fine as it's all a matter of opinion but i already gave you my answer.

[@DarthEvilicus]

It started out as a great new and different take on the MCU and ultimately ended in the typical sky beam, punch each other in the air finale

[@trongleduc2000]

I agree with the finale battle tho, she just playing tennis energy ball with Agatha, I expected something like infinity war

[@betterjake54]

Letting people write things they have no idea about is always a bad idea

[@betterjake54]

So glad I didn't waste my time

[@ashercandell3788]

How the heck did Vision’s loan on that house plot last for five years? You’d think after both of the people who were going to live in that house died for five whole years, the land would be sold to somebody else.

[@djolds1]

The Golden Decade of the MCU was glorious. Even Endgame managed to keep the obligatory Wokeness to a minimum. The Glory is Gone.

[@bigboi5545]

At least it ended with a proper with a proper finale.

[@elperronimo]

@King Slayer Falcuck and the woker soldier lmfao

[@DarkWolf-407]

The glory ended after phase 1. After that there where some gems in a mountain of mediocrity.

[@TheDailySorcery]

@King Slayer Ughhhhhhh, nonsense.... cringe names... gulah

[@raizenquinones8391]

Nwh is back and ready to make the "Glory" alive again.

[@JediKnightoftheTifaCult]

Haven't watched a second of Wandavision since the night Gina was fired even though I had 3 weeks left on my subscription. "Disney's firing of Gina Carano is confusing and hypocritical, lacking sound management." -Forbes

[@gallienus172]

I canceled my Disney+ subscription and removed the app from my tablet and phone the day after they fired Gina Carano.

[@chicostephenson]

oh i've been out. and gary's right what i thought was gonna happen is a hundred times better than what actually did.

[@KamiTenchi]

I thought the ending was okay for me but I was expecting a more sinister side from Wanda or Agatha.

[@titanu9188]

torture and enslaving an entire town is less evil than guns - Disney.

[@Spacefrisian]

Imagin having a show that could perfectly tie all MCU shows together in between. And than screwing that oppurtunity up. Marvel agents of Shield.

[@jehu2414]

"A Disappointment" doesn't even scratched the surface of this nonsense. 😄

[@docsamson198]

This show was like a drunk short order cook throwing everything on the grill and hoping it's edible.

[@michaelpipp7750]

“Ask any woman on the planet.” Ba dum tss

[@Praxographist]

The first couple episodes were almost genius. Then it collapsed. Fast.

[@drthmik]

More and More I agree with the statement an Anime Reviewer has said "The Ending is PARAMOUNT" A good ending can at least partially redeem a poor show and a BAD ending can ruin even the best show ever made

[@EclipseMints08]

Except there wasn't a bad ending. This entire video was just hate just for the sake of hate.

[@rtsiii5404]

School Days

[@random__joe]

Game of thrones

[@peterparker9954]

Game of thrones was ruined by one season

[@peterparker9954]

@@EclipseMints08 ok boy

[@thistoshallpass395]

I fell asleep the two times I tried to watch the first episode and that ended any interest I had in the show. Doesn't seem like I missed anything.

[@thebugledaily6805]

Spider-man is a continual disappointment!!

[@anthonyaguirre7143]

I didn't know Mark C. but I can hear OverlordDVD's voice when reading that name.

[@tRav285]

The true message is that self-pity is extremely toxic

[@trentonwelsh6859]

Agatha was trying to disarm a psychotic magic user and break the spell. Agatha was the hero...all along.

[@garywintle8023]

She was being used as a pawn by the author of the Darkhold, Chthon.

[@indiajohnson]

Thought Agatha was going to try to steal Wanda's powers for herself? She's no better.