The Witcher is DEAD | Netflix PANICS!

[@BrickNasty]

All they had to do was stick to the source material. IT COULD HAVE BEEN EFFORTLESS MONEY.

[@toxicbigot]

…. But then you would’ve liked it and that’s just not compatible with the message.🎉😂

[@Sharok888]

Yeah unfortunately that's what you would do if you want profit or even to make a good show when the reason is obviously to push the message

[@TheDon266]

Unfortunately it had to be "diverse and inclusive" for a modern audience that doesn't exist so naturally it was garbage

[@steve8032]

Ive been screaming this nonstop.

[@jonnevels5766]

But you forgot the most important part... THE MESSAGE.

[@tiredguy2753]

You had the lead actor willing to play Geralt for the next 7 years and you chased him out... hats off to you.

[@JP-sc7ye]

One lead actor that instantly become iconic for the role and was bringing so much people in

[@darth3261]

Not just an actor, a very popular one who's also a big fan of the work. They should stop giving writing jobs to actvists.

[@garthdonovan5373]

Lol

[@gabrielpezzinigazzaneo3342]

Adding a bit: you had the lead actor THAT THE WHOLE AUDIENCE LOVED

[@mimcduffee86]

@@darth3261 So Cavill is a liar for claiming that S3 is really close to source material? Or are you just hopping on the hate-wagon to get upvotes?

[@Vanderyn]

Henry Cavill is universally respected by the paying customers for being hardworking, faithful to the source and a genuine fan. He was a great Geralt, best live-action Geralt to date and nobody blames him for the shit-show Netflix has put up. The show is dead without him and everybody knows it.

[@i.336]

Henry is the exact witcher they cut out of my head while I was reading the books. There never will be another witcher for me........

[@TehJumpingJawa]

@@i.336 Exactly this! When I first saw Witcher S01E01 I didn't see Henry playing Geralt, I saw Geralt! Anya's portrayal of Yenn took a little longer to warm to, but she made the role her own with a strong performance, interesting arc & convincing chemistry. Netflix had a golden goose; how the hell did they fcuk it up so badly. 🤮

[@dylan4972]

​@@i.336same here he is literally the witcher.

[@arrynchaos9912]

And this was after everyone moaned after hearing about the initial casting. He really blew everyone's expectations out of the water.

[@AC-ix8pl]

I agree but "best live action Geralt to date"? Isn't he the only live action Geralt we've gotten? lol

[@helenavanheerden8455]

I feel so sorry for Henry. He is genuinely a good actor and a good guy. They aren't doing him justice

[@derekm2123]

he should form a league to get justice.

[@davidboliver9253]

Henry will survive and be much more successful with Netflix. Can Netflix survive without Henry?

[@BlatentlyFakeName]

He is a big fan of the books and game too. They had the perfect guy for the role and ruined it

[@Tobimaru99]

@@BlatentlyFakeName not just that they hav everything to make it success huge fanbase good story good lead actor but still fk it up

[@NikkaPleeease]

@@davidboliver9253 Netflix will… The Witcher won’t!

[@laserbeam9261]

Guarantee Henry arguing with the writers would be more entertaining and lore accurate than the actual show

[@MechaFenris]

A fat guy reading the NYC phone book would've been more interesting.

[@blackscorpionstinger]

“Evil is evil” - Henry Cavill

[@anonimoalfin]

Such a great book series... such a fantastic game, such an awesome author and perfect main actor (Henry, the ONLY possible Witcher)... it's not only a missed opportunity, it's an utter disgrace what they did. Of course, the idea was never to do The Witcher, which they hated from the beginning, for the sentiments and values it held... [ 2:30 ] All that damned hellspawn of Lauren Schmitdt and her 'staff' (of social engineering and propaganda) needed to do was just to translate EXACTLY, LITERALLY, the already perfect story, nothing else. All those ppl should really be at least in jail.

[@portadf]

Man, for that one I'm totally in for! :D

[@pauloa.7609]

Hope that in a few years some nuggets that were filmed leak out.

[@kleindropper]

This was the biggest, easiest layup of the century. The games gave them the look and feel that the show could have adapted. The books gave slam dunk stories to use that still connected to the games that so many millions love. Henry was rip roaring ready to go to do the absolute best Geralt characterization possible. And look what happened. As the saying goes, Netflix could screw up getting laid in a whorehouse on payday.

[@youngthinker1]

What do you expect? They carried on the tradition started with the Witcher's author stealing everything from Elric. So they stole from the Witcher to create a worse version of it.

[@zenster1097]

That last sentence made me laugh. Have an upvote.

[@RaifSeverence]

​@@youngthinker1if he truly stole it from the Elric novels, can you link to the lawsuit that followed? I have e a hard time thinking that a book series that is "blatant theft" wouldn't have a lawsuit attached to it.

[@marcinnawrocki1437]

Woke idiots happened.

[@rpgadventurer32]

You don't understand, it was "too white" for them, it had too many strong male characters in it. Their ridiculous radical ideology came first before this adaptation in every single aspect of the production starting from their horrible casting choices and the cultural appropriation of Sapowski's works.

[@ScapeGoat77]

Man…the books, the game, Henry Cavill’s swordsmanship…all amazing art. Then, they just destroyed this show, where they actually had the perfect actor playing the lead?!?! It’s insanity. How could the writers’ fingers all have been so far away from the pulse? I just can’t believe it. Tragic.

[@xaviermontalban717]

The people steering the world have other plans. It's all part of their social engineering program

[@rolsen1304]

They live in a woke bubble. Assume they are the majority and thus will harvest acclaim. They are not, and so they do not.

[@knightnxk2906]

i'd rather know why da fuck netflix higher ups dont intervene, how can they not replace the writers... i guess they are having strong connections

[@so8060]

@@knightnxk2906 You both are naïve if you think the movie/tv series industries are about making money in 2023, they are propaganda tools which is why they can tolerate and even double down on money-losing projects

[@rolsen1304]

@@knightnxk2906 Blackrock policy is to not lend money to any project not woke. Look in to it and you'll see this entire situation is constructed by the worlds largest private fund.

[@BHShaman]

Simple solution. Keep the Main story lines focused on the NAMSAKE of the show. Hercules and Xena, genders aside, did this just fine decades ago. Xena became really popular and instead of making Hercules the "Xena Show", they gave Xena her own show and both did very well. With Cameo's between them to maintain their ties.

[@Jigger2361]

too little too late

[@Allie-w1l]

I pray they don't decide to remake either of those series. I loved them both, especially Xena.

[@AverageSensei]

I love the books and the games man, but what hurts the most is that Henry was legitimately passionate about the character and they ruined it

[@HumanPerson_final]

I admire that he’s a fan, and his reaction is a reflection of the betrayal the rest of the fans feel. I was excited for The Witcher series and they just … pissed it away. I gave up on episode 2 of season 2. Garbage.

[@FidgetyGuy]

Liberals ruin everything. That's why you should never give them control of anything.

[@jewcyk8268]

It deserves what its getting for that. Let it be a leason.

[@samuellp1146]

Not all money is good money, nice to know Henry has his principles when the writers didn't have theirs.

[@bingefox4056]

But hes extremely passionate about Warhammer 40000. Hes producing and starring. Gonna rock.

[@DirkTheDaringDnD]

YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE! YOU WERE SAID TO DESTROY THE TREND OF SHITTY NETFLIX ADAPTATIONS NOT JOIN THEM. Bring balance to the fandom, not leave it in darkness 😢

[@alienmatters3106]

Well played...

[@Nikitikitavvi]

Netflix: I HAAAAATE YOUUUUUU!!!!!!

[@John-tc9gp]

THAT'S RACIST!

[@darrents44]

🤣😂🤣😂

[@mala6238]

👌👌👏

[@anthonylipira9526]

We would be in a golden age for fantasy media if only writers respected the source material.

[@Dejawolfs]

too bad so many fantasy fans are also extreme-left freaks.

[@citizen-7xl5]

You’re not wrong we could currently have good wheel of time ,Witcher and lord of the rings shows but instead we get trash that’s constantly telling us we’re racist/sexist alt right leaning trolls if we don’t want to eat it.

[@MeSoyCapitan]

It's the directors thinking they are somehow better than the original authors, getting a false sense of heir own abilities due to the success an already popular source material effortlessly brings to them. Same thing happened on game of thrones.

[@Cross_111]

@@MeSoyCapitantruth be told in game of thrones they got too greedy to publish the series instead of waiting for the last books to release first… With the witcher the source material is all present…they CHOSE to COMPLETELY ignore it…

[@ggt47]

Same goes with comic book films.

[@conrod4910]

Cannot believe Netflix managed to fuck this up…….. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 unbelievable. Fair play to Henry Cavell

[@garymcderp1146]

Netflix execs are crazy if they think anyone will watch the show without Henry in the lead.

[@grogdizzy5814]

And yet these idiots still watch it even though they know it will be bad.

[@poki580]

henry(geralt) was a supporting character anyways

[@Mike_G4lifeLive]

Yeah I’m done after season 3 heck I’m trying my best to watch season 3 because it’s becoming more of Ciri and Yennefer story feels woke and stepping further away from sorce material and I’m not enjoying season 3 but watching it for love and respect for Henry Cavill.

[@randomchord]

Netflix Execs: “Look, it’s simple logic. People love ice cream. They eat up all the ice cream we sell. If we change the main ingredient from sugar to salt, they’ll still love ice cream, right?” 😉

[@lola-to9om]

@@Mike_G4lifeLivethen they most likely make them lesbians and will fuck all over the show 😂

[@dantesparda14175]

Henry Cavill is absolutely incredible. I’m happy he left to protest against the changes. It shows he respects the story told by the books and the games. I’m really upset they couldn’t actually follow the damn source material cause I love the games and books and my mum really enjoyed the show. I thought it could be something we could talk about but they miraculously managed to fuck it up.

[@kidaria1333]

Yeah I have lots of respect for him but I hope he gets not black listed.

[@sirtrollington3054]

Hope he can Ryan Reynolds it Deadpool style

[@lankyrob6369]

​@@strangestecho5088yea... we get that

[@kenbismarck4999]

Also, it shows a strong character, rooted in decency, and "some-common-sense vibe", which today's world is lacking. It takes a strong male (YEAH, CANCEL me :D I used the forbidden no-gender-culture-approved word!) decisiveness, to stand up to the wave and break it with your solid stand. And I do not mean there are no strong willed women out there - but that's not the topic here :) EOL.

[@Britt-r3r]

That is so incredibly sweet.

[@brandonboss6868]

Honestly that's some incredible acting on Henry Cavil. Having to perform a script you don't really agree with and still nail it. Well done brother

[@asddasdasdasdadsa]

to be fair the skript is so bad a cardboard could make it justice so nailing it isnt that hard ;D but yeah only reason the disaster of s1 was watchable didnt even bother with the rest

[@uppitywoman3647]

There were some parts where he looked disgusted that wasn't acting.

[@albertobernal2537]

@@asddasdasdasdadsa True, but he kept his temper though (seemingly).

[@olivermharris_]

I suspect the crying scenes were the easiest, overlooking the trainwreck of something he once admired.

[@DAGATHire]

Pfff not really mate. Cavil has been relegated to a bit part. Can't be that hard to deliver your lines when you have sweet f*** all lines to deliver. Not dissing cavil by any means. But this show is indeed f*****d and destroyed by a bunch of ignorant morons behind the scenes.

[@EchterAlsFake]

I mostly hated the fact, that the mysterious cool and dangerous guy that we were introduced to in the 1-4 episodes doesn't really play a role in the whole series after that.

[@SithScorp]

This is what happens when ESG/DEI policies are allowed to drive all creative decisions from hiring showrunners and writers, to storylines. This has become a joke and I refuse to watch anymore.

[@heathb4319]

Bingo

[@soulward6334]

Haven't watched anything but youtube amd rumble for over 10 years. Been a few good movies here and there but majority of what I try tells me I'm horrible for being a man. Why would I pay to have some one insult me.

[@willielast]

Women writers and show runners, turn everything into teen melodrama. They literally don't know how to do anything else.

[@SithScorp]

@@willielast Not just women. In fact, there are women that are more than capable of producing wonderful projects. Problem is when they are hiring someone for only being a woman (or from any group that is not a white male) and not for being competent.

[@andrewconrad2859]

Bravo. Very few people believe me when I tell them this. Selective belief and/or cognitive dissonance.

[@Max-f8b]

When I heard, that the writers of the Witcher show "actively disliked the books and games, even actively mocking the source material", after I had heard it, I immediately decided that I'm not watching Netflix' Witcher series anymore, and I have no regrets

[@brigittahegarini7162]

I don't understand how they can even be chosen as a writer. What a disgrace

[@Max-f8b]

@@brigittahegarini7162 Agree 100%, hiring writers who literally hate the Witcher to create Witcher series, was a horrible idea, I mean, can you imagine what Harry Potter movies would've been like, if Warner Bros. hired writers who hate the books, and despise the world that J. K. Rowling has created... Netflix' Witcher series deserves its failing

[@Schaemia]

Couldn't even watch season 3 knowing the drama behind it. Think I only got 1 episode in.

[@jesustyronechrist2330]

Yeah, Hollywood nowadays is full of jaded people who actively dislike any art of any kind that was done in the past. Because to them, literally everything that is older than 20 years is the devil and problematic.

[@jackthorton10]

They are idiots, and best they wise up lest there value is still left in their jobs let alone their profession

[@jlogan2228]

The biggest slap in the face is they use henry as a selling point AFTER they spent months dragging his name theough the mud, calling him hard to work with etc and then they realized oh hes the ONLY thing people were watching this for.

[@Dijon-Pijon]

I thought it was just me thinking that TV and Movies haven't been good (almost at all) in a while, but apparently it's because of the writers!! I feel less crazy now, thank you.

[@petruandreescu9915]

Seems like this is related to politicizing. Forcing subject into people's throat.

[@George196207]

Turned all entertainment into politicized castrated males and butch dyke woman. Two good seasons and another show into the delete watch list. Nothing new anymore worth watching. They killed Star Trek for fans of the original story and intent !

[@nkosinathisibiya600]

Koreans movies somehow seem to be good lately,watched the call recently and parasite❤

[@xdsp]

This was a trend that started in the aftermath of Occupy Wallstreet in 2008. Remember that and the Financial Collapse? Apparently people organizing scared the shit out of people like Larry Fink and George Soros, so they use Blackrock/Vanguard/Soros Foundation to pollute and destroy our beloved fandoms for the sake of 'promoting' a divisive brand of DEI/ESG to get "the people" at each other's throats. "Wokeness" is a purely corporate-created construct intended to divide us into warring camps. If we're busy hating and fighting each other, we're not fighting them. Thus, scummy left-wing activists with no integrity or morals and revolting right-wing grifters were activated and deployed.

[@milnez]

This isn’t writing… it’s deliberate vandalism 😢 It’s as if all my childhood stories are being corrupted for an inconceivably shallow set of irrelevant goals… it’s almost criminally cruel

[@jqker9593]

Ah man if only we knew who owns all of jollywood

[@solarmyth1945]

@@jqker9593 if only

[@stephencollins9062]

Hunt them down and destroy them :) Mtfbwy;)

[@alexedwards6509]

It's not "as if all my childhood stories are being corrupted" That is EXACTLY what is happening. And it IS deliberate. It's called subversion. The people who are doing it call themselves progressives but everything they are doing has been done before, many times. Mao, Stalin, Hitler etc. Critical theory is part of it. They want to destroy everything in your country's history and culture. And they will NEVER stop.

[@highlanderc]

If you look back into early 2000s... things were starting to show out of hand.

[@hopethishelps91]

Ciri cried and hid in the battle of sheraweed, it was a big moment for her. She wasent the badass she thought she was and I knew Netflix would make her a girl boss right away. Instead of showing her vulnerable and growing into a stone cold killer.

[@minatodroger7890]

Exactly and sadly I expected it

[@BroWitGlasses8008]

I feel so bad for Cavill. Dude pours his heart out in everything he does and Hollywood constantly stomps on it. God forbid this guy joins another live action adaption only for the same thing to happen for a third time.

[@MrDNMock]

He is the executive producer on his next show as he is adapting warhammer 40k.

[@MarkJohnApephano]

@@MrDNMock YES!!!... its one of the reasons i like family guy. i didn't know at the know at the time but Seth Mcfarlane is the executive producer of family guy and it still good. Where should i start with Warhammer, if you dont mind me asking?

[@Red_Devil_2011]

@@MrDNMock True, but it's still an Amazon show, right? Somehow I feel like Cavill will put a ton of effort into it, only for Amazon to pull out the rug from under his feet with last minute re-writes, re-edits, reshoots, marketing, or some other stupid thing. Plus they'll have a lot of caveats.

[@niklasdahlgren7641]

@@MrDNMock So he will either be the emperor or a greater daemon of slaneesh.

[@AIIEYESONME]

Tim Allen has entered the chat - I once was the exec producer of a top rated show on ABC . You may have heard of it, the show ws named Last Man Standing. That was until Disney bought them out and canceled my show for no explanation given. I took my show to Fox and enjoyed 3 years of similar success right up until Disney followed me to FoX bought those guys out and canceled me again.

[@deaks25]

Season 1 felt like a good intro into the universe; yes the stories were trimmed and shortened, but as someone new to the franchise, I felt it helped draw me in. Season 2 was ok, Freya Allen really grew into her Ciri and the events between Ciri and Geralt were some of the highlights of S2 for me, and Henry Cavill puts in a shift and a half throughout to try and make the best Geralt he could. Apparently he put a lot of effort into helping Allen and Chalotra build their confidence in the first season. He was the show's ace because he's a fan of the franchise!! Netflix had a ready-made diplomat to help build-bridges and smooth things with die-hard fans, he even went above and beyond to offer suggestions and input on how to placate potential fan criticism. He was literally the perfect team player and ambassador to the show and they threw him under the bus. This could have been the greatest fantasy series ever made and I'd still pan it because of how Cavill has been treated. I'll probably watch S3 just out of respect to Cavill, but beyond that I'm out, which is a shame because this is a franchise I'm now into from watching the show.

[@olafontart]

If this is the level of quality that we should expect from Hollywood and Netflix writers, then they can all stay on strike.

[@robando2922]

Oh my god dude, there gonna use that as an excuse for when everyone stops watching 😂

[@ericv4189]

@@robando2922 They'll say it with a straight face

[@weilam03]

anyone notice how Shatner kinda sounds like Trump?

[@kaizokujimbei143]

Remember Cuties? Brought to you by Nonceflix.

[@nengyang1895]

This is what happens when you have writers that think they're are talented and want to put their own stuff into something that is very popular and already established. If their ideas are so great then they should go write their own books and stories.

[@sonyslyer9946]

They’re talented* don’t need the are

[@jimmythecrow]

@@sonyslyer9946 it was probably a typo. people like you are bots.

[@WiewiurTV]

They tried and all series got worst ratings in history of IMDb

[@ConfusedGeriatric]

@@sonyslyer9946redditor moment

[@sonyslyer9946]

@@ConfusedGeriatric oh nooo shiver me Timbers! KZbinr moment trying to one up someone who doesn’t care

[@KevinArdala01]

It's so strange that they keep intentionally destroying shows by framing them ideologically and straying form source, tried and tested material, and then 'panic' when it flops. It's like jumping off a building and being momentarily surprised before you hit the floor.

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

I don't think it's really all that strange at all, when you try to look at the bigger picture. There was a massive boom in the streaming business... which means that they needed a lot of new shows. That meant that they suddenly needed a bunch of new/additional writers... and inevitably got a bunch of inexperienced writers... as well as talentless hacks... AND people who knew nothing about any existing source material(s). So, that's THREE different problems... and I'd guess that MOST of the writers for any NEW show suffer from at least one of those conditions.

[@premiumfruits3528]

it's not strange at all, it's very much intentional and coordinated

[@DoubleO88]

@@premiumfruits3528 To gain what?

[@kaizokujimbei143]

"I feel.... weightle............ "

[@kaizokujimbei143]

@@premiumfruits3528 The Great Reset. Klaus Schwab and George Soros are laughing gleefully. "I fancied myself as some kind of god. If truth be known, I carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble. It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything. But I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out." -George Soros

[@mahgunz]

Totally agree with this. The last two seasons seems more narrowed towards a teenage audience. So much drama! I've started reading the books instead, recommended for everyone!

[@tayfocused]

Love the books! It should have never switched to an ensemble cast. It's a lead cast with supporting characters. That's how the book is. 😂

[@bronwynreijnders7205]

Has established fanbase Has A-list main actor Has TONS of source material Has wildly successful 1st and 2nd season ... ... Changes everything Fans leave ... ... SHOCKED PIKACHU FACE

[@Spazza42]

Season 2 was about as far from the source material as it gets.

[@smokeonthewater5287]

@@Spazza42 Season 2 was still pretty much watchable although not as good as S1.

[@RugoGaming]

They went off script pretty much from episode 1 season 1. They got away with it and it snowballed, that's all.

[@primkup]

"Has wildly successful 1st and 2nd season" Yeah, no.

[@claudiussmith8798]

Left after season 1, it had nothing to do with the witcher, a young insecure yen, a grandma triss, no mythology/monsters, too much people with their psychological problems, it was a weird mixture of D&D and an american sitcom.

[@nabongobong9155]

Heres how to make money in entertainment Industry: - Listen to the fans - Make what the fans wants - Do not disrespect the source material - Do not do what the fans dont want - Do not disrespect the FANS - Do not FIGHT with the FANS - Do not kick out a good actor thats also liked by the fans - PROFITS 📈📈

[@marcinnawrocki1437]

Nope, hire writers and showruners based on skills not the message.

[@doc-holliday-]

So as an empty suit with the power to green light projects what im reading is... -Find some talentless hack that absolutely despises the IP you are creating a show or movie of -Put them in charge -Watch as they ruin it -Keep paying for more as it gets worse

[@Assassino27]

You forgot “keep out leftist politics”

[@evertonporter7887]

​@@Assassino27Keep out politics left and right, period!

[@doc-holliday-]

@@evertonporter7887 The funny thing is politics are fine as long as it makes sense to what you are making. Modern politics doesnt need to be in absolutely every single property, movie, show and game on the planet though. Thats the real problem. These people are like leeches. They don't have the talent to make their own IP and curate their own fans. If they did, absolutely no one would complain about them doing whatever the hell they wanted. Instead, they always latch onto someone elses IP who had actual talent and inject their BS into it like a virus eventually killing the host before they move onto the next thing.

[@JonDoe..]

When it's already written for you, literally everything is done for you and you have the perfect actor who was born to play Geralt, seriously, it takes exceptional skill (failure) to F it up after that. Genuinely, the production staff involved in this Netflix production are not fit to be hired on anything ever again.

[@NateO123]

It just lays bear what people have been calling out for years. Activists view popular IPs as vehicles for their ideology. They don’t care at all about the fans that made it popular, in fact they often detest them. All that matters is a baked in audience that will be forced to consume whatever post modern woke drivel they crap out while they laugh. Seems like the jig is up finally but we’ve had to witness the butchering of essentially every popular IP in existence to get there.

[@jesse3430]

​@@NateO123Truth!!

[@lola-to9om]

Most likely Netflix keep them instead of people like henry

[@animeangel1983]

Yeah but they will be given more, you fail upwards remember? It may seem like things are changing now, but it will still take at least another 3 years for it to completely be purged. Hollywoke hopes the plebs and the internet will forget everything that happened this year and go back to them like goldfish with 3 second memories.

[@Indigo8078]

I never read or knew about the books or the games, i was into the show because of Henry Cavill and my love of fantasy genre shows. I thoroughly enjoyed season 1 and i remember watching season 2 and thinking wtf is going on, why is the story so different from season 1? And all my favourite characters were either killed, abandoned or had taken on an entirely different personality, to the point of where they weren't the character I used to love to watch. I remember thinking it was so much more boring and i barely got to see Henry in action. Then season 3 came around and i thought it was better but still so boring a lot of the time. Even Geralt's scenes were boring but at least I saw more of Henry! It also bugged me that so many random characters got screen time that i didn't care for and it didn't make sense how some of the characters interacted with each other compared to earlier seasons like where'd their old personality go? I was irritated by the stupid singing scene on the boat, that was boring AF! It made no sense to the theme of the show I'd been watching. And that ciri desert episode was incredibly boring and a massive waste of time, who approves these ideas?! I loved Geralt and Jaskiers friendship in the show at the start, but then for them to not build on their friendship at all was disappointing, and Jaskier's barely in the show because random other characters got screen time instead. Then Jaskier gets a random love interest that was boring AF to watch with ZERO chemistry. He only worked well on screen when interacting with Geralt in previous seasons. I decided to turn to online reviews to see what people thought or if i was alone, only find out everyone was pointing out the same things and that there is a whole book that they didn't follow the storyline of and it absolutely shows! If someone like me can notice these things and didn't even know about the books then that should tell Netflix they are ruining this show!

[@RedRaptor1241]

They could have done much more with the desert. It is taken directly from the books. But they butchered it and the ending of the season

[@Coregame3]

just play witcher 3

[@McCRBen]

Same, so I’m starting to read the books from the library. It was really difficult to follow and felt like they were making it up as they went along. When they got everything scrambled they came back to the books to put band aids on band aids and re runs of footage.

[@High_Monk]

I only played the Witcher 3, which I highly recommend if you have 150-200 hours to spare. I watched the first season and even if I was infuriated by some of the cast choices made for diversity's sake (especially Yennefer who is described in both the books and the games in excruciating details as the complete opposite of that actress they chose) I carried on with that season. But when they decided to kill Eskel in season 2 in the dumbest way possible, I realized that it's not worth wasting my time so I gave up on it. Of course Eskel's past as a badass monster hunter meant nothing, every single witcher medallion malfunctioned during the monster's infiltration and all those 100+ years old veteran hunters were all tricked by a plant monster. How stupid is that? Now they made Jaskier aka Dandelion bisexual or whatever when he was a well known womanizer that got in trouble too many times because of it. Fuck this shit.

[@JohnSmith-ez5pw]

Completely agreed. The 1st season should have been introducing Geralt by following him around slaying a bunch of monsters and dealing with even worse Humans. Then start introducing Ciri, Yennefer, etc. as Geralts story unfolds and we branch into their backgrounds. Geralt has to be the main protagonist in the Witcher series...not hard to comprehend.

[@selisafish]

I’m not sure the Netflix writers have even read the books... I bet they did a quick Google search, and went from there.

[@jaffarebellion292]

The first two books were short story collections. They could've gone one or two episodes per story and had great material for two whole seasons.

[@heroictesticles6870]

@@selisafish They read them. Too much focus on a white male character. Not enough 'pride', not enough 'diversity', not enough 'feminism'. The stories and characters were too interesting for netflix writers, so they ruined that too.

[@jdshqs]

@@heroictesticles6870 you saved me the trouble of writing exactly the same thing

[@davidareeves]

This all reminds me of a line from the movie The Last Starfighter, so you live is a portable cave that goes nowhere, that was interesting, this was not. The fact there is no monster slaying by the Witcher proves this is NOT a Witcher show

[@ministryofwrongthink6962]

Happy to hear (no pun intended) the OG voice actor of Geralt side with Cavil and the rest of the fans. ❤👍

[@Sapphire_Jack]

The fact that Henry Cavil didn´t Nope out after reading this season´s script just goes to show how professional he is

[@ElGrabnar]

Actually it's because he was contractually obligated to do 3 seasons, I think he checked out after reading s2 e2 we just weren't allowed to know until last year when this was wrapped.

[@ComradeCommissarYuri]

@@ElGrabnaroh we saw the signs with him subtly letting them know if things didn’t change in regards to sticking to the lore he would leave in interviews

[@willboa5365]

@@ComradeCommissarYuri Are these subtle hints in interviews on youtube ?

[@maximtcaciuc2904]

He was most likely already mentally out by the 2nd season. The 1st season wasn't great either but season 2 onwards was a complete shitshow

[@bobloerakker7010]

That takes patience and willpower, i would have flipped out.

[@laurenturner3172]

Im convinced that Lauren Hissrich dated a guy who habitually played the Witcher and wouldnt pay attention to her so her revenge is trying to ruin the franchise.

[@michaelclouse3174]

All they had to do was to convert the novels into a screenplay then the screenplay into a script. Make some costumes build some set pieces and, boom, hit show with millions of fans. Whoever's in charge of this show needs to lose their job immediately

[@SageWriterX]

Seriously, the books even had a lot of variety in characters. They really didn't have to change anything...

[@digitalwayfarer7404]

But then how would we know the writer's opinions about current political topics like black representation and queer theory?

[@premiumfruits3528]

it's not about the money, it was never about the money

[@NoahGooder]

not just loose thier job but be put on some kind of probation from working on media for a few years.

[@rpgadventurer32]

They should have started with an accurate casting that fits the source material and the Polish and European cultural basis of the Fantasy series.

[@horuslupecal9215]

Great statement. Huge respect to Henry Cavill, for breaking this show down, before it ruined his carier. I hope his Warhammer 40.000 show runs better. Not only for him, but also because i am a huge W40K fan and hope to see a real piece of art in that show.

[@extrabigman]

It's going to be very interesting because W40K does not translate to the screen well, the game has epic stories, concepts, designs, and lore but it also has serious diversity, morality, and scope issues. How do you fix any of them without disrupting the source? There are no good guys save the Tau, the scope is epic, and it lacks people of color.

[@MrSchmop]

@@extrabigman The tau aren't the good guys either. They're more like soviets. The greater good is only for those, who play along. BUT they are way better than everything else.. Not sure about exodites though.

[@MrFeierkind]

​@@extrabigmanwell just fuck to shoehorn in diversity and "modern moral" and stick to the source material

[@yogo7128]

​@perpetuity8379 the difference is that games workshop are quite strict with living people using their licence and keep an eye on what is done with so im confident for it

[@LibbyGrimm]

@@yogo7128 GW shells out their IP to most ridiculous bad shit imaginable tho, there's been multitudes of pointless mobilegames with predatory marketing and et all. It's less about being strict and more about; "did you pay for the license? you did? make diarrhea, we aren't picky nor care much" Yes, Mechanicus, Demonhunters and Space Marine exists but there's far more BAD examples out there than there are good ones. They are brutal about enforcing their IP if you haven't paid for it but don't care one bit if its a licensed one. Look at what happened with "Astartes" fan animation. They dropped the hammer hard and most certainly just squuezed because it was unlicenced, not over any concerns of quality or lorepolicing. Quality Control doesn't exist for GW in third party products. They absolutely do not "keep an eye out on what is done with it", only that's they get paid for it.

[@thebrewingsailor9172]

I said it the moment Henry announced he was leaving and I've said it ever since. I will not watch S3. People ask me why and shouldn't you watch out of respect for Henry? And I say back, it is precisely because I respect Henry that I choose not to watch. Let me explain. Henry, by announcing so far in advance of S3 that he was leaving the show, is telling us, the fans how awful this season would be. If S3 was anything remotely close to good, he A) wouldn't be leaving and B) even if he was, he wouldn't announce his departure until after S3 aired in order to give it the best chance for success. Months ago he warned us without saying it, "This is shit. I was miserable filming this shit. You will be miserable watching this shit. So, please don't watch this shit." As for me, I'm looking forward to watching him slay heretics in Warhammer 40K. Maybe they use Ms. Hissrich's face for one of them. She certainly is a heretic that needs to be slain. Metaphorically speaking of course. 😉

[@LouisNothing]

Exactly.

[@Tvianne]

Yep.

[@SageWriterX]

Yup, I checked out on season 2 episode 2 and am not going back. I enjoyed season 1, even with its flaws, but absolutely drew the line at the utter nonsense season 2 started with.

[@CableAnna]

In The Witcher 3 game I was so happy when I got to eliminate Radovid because he was a maniac and now all of a sudden he’s a love interest of Dandelion? This has to be a joke 😂

[@michaelwills1926]

Once you understand the deeper truth behind all this mess, the more “agenda over profit” makes sense.

[@mrsswindon]

are you trying to say that netflix has ulterior social motives over a desire for profits? There is a lot wrong with how Netflix conduct their business but this is a pretty far out their opinion to have.

[@ericv4189]

@@mrsswindon It's the writers and showrunners. They get paid either way. Get paid for activism at the expense of their paymasters.

[@sedohrj87]

CHY-NA

[@nicklibby3784]

​@@mrsswindon Well, every company has a ESG score (Environmental, Social, Governance) that they are graded on which give the company benefits if they get it high enough, and it will attract more investors because all the big investors have agreed to invest more in companies with higher ESG scores. So no, it is *_NOT_* some "out there theory" that Hollywood is has a political agenda and wants to put politics and social messages in their media. It is literally a requirement to even be in business and get investors!!!!!!!! They use a standard framework to grade their Economic, Social, Governance scores from using the Global Reference Initiative(GRI). Also, guess what else can easily boost your ESG score if you are getting behind or have some bad publicity......you can just boost your DIE! (Diversity, Inclusion, Equity). By hiring a bunch of BIPOCs (Black, Indigenous, People, Of Color). Which is why we have seen Disney replaces the white actor with a black actor instead in their classic remakes or remasters. They do not actually care about diversity, they care about their ESG score which can be boosted with DEI by hiring BIPOCs. (These are the official acronyms). And yes, all of these acronyms are created by the government and the stock markets, and global economic forums and stuff. They all agreed to run buisness like this and create all of these grading systems. So yeah, this is not some crazy theory. They literally agreed to run their business like this getting graded by all these political scores, diversity scores, inclusion scores etc. It is literally official regulation.

[@nicklibby3784]

​​@@mrsswindon That is why Hollywood seems so political and woke and crap now, because of the ESG score grading system(Economic, Social, Governance) which can be boosted very easily by the DEI score (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) by simply hiring more BIPOCS (Black, Indigenous, People of Color). So if you hiring some colored people and push political agendas that are apart of the ESG grading system then you will get a higher ESG score which gets you way more investors and gives you business advantages. This is why Hollywood is hiring a bunch of out of touch middle aged Karen wine moms and young progressive people who are so open minded their brain fell out causing them to forget about story writing and character creation & arcs. Instead they focus on a half azzed mediocre story with boring characters and put all their effort into making a movie that gets a higher ESG, DEI, score by putting in BIPOCs for the sake of putting in BIPOCs to get a better score, as well as putting in politics and social messages which boost their score and give them more investors and buisness advantages.

[@kuzz1191]

I just can't comprehend why they would do this, there was already a huge established fan base for the Witcher and they just threw dirt in our face it's disgusting

[@Tamachii12]

ESG and woke politics... that's the only reason you would waste millions or billions in this thrash...

[@MrQuackas]

As bad as what they did to the Halo series

[@axon1637]

Typical film/series makers, they want to do their own thing instead of sticking to what made it very popular.

[@TheClassicLamb]

Threw sand in our eyes

[@Cander617]

Because not enough woman were equal to the men how can she be br expected to stay loyal to the source materal when its not 100% woke. These ppl r pathetic

[@jacobgrantphotography]

"Go ahead. Stay on strike!" LOL Perfectly said. When I first heard of the possible writer's strike, my thought was, "That'll be easy. Hollywood doesn't have any writers."

[@TarisSinclair]

(In Boromir's voice) "Hollywood has no writers. Hollywood needs no writers." But yeah if writing trash like this show, with zero respect towards the source, is what they do.. I think everyone's better off without them.

[@x_nickapotamus_x8261]

This hurts so bad! One of my favorite stories and games of all time. I was looking forward to this since it was announced and didn't watch past season 1. Stop! Ruining! Everything! We! Love!

[@0Great_White0]

To think the writers actually MADE the decision to deviate from the books and games... I don't understand. I wonder what the author must be thinking right now. If this is painful for us, imagine for him

[@xdsp]

AFAIK Andrzej Sapkowski is a bit of a sell-out whore and is just happy to get widespread attention to his franchise. Amazing writer, certainly, but not one that gives a shit about pimping out and diluting and bastardizing his creation for the sake of a few extra dollars. Wish more writers would fight for the integrity of their creations and prevent them from falling into the hands of scummy left-wing activists like Hissrich and her lot. @@0Great_White0

[@Jackallen88]

Razorfist's "Fuck you! I was right!" Is my favorite thing ever

[@ashlenjoful]

I'll never understand why they keep these horrible writers and producers. Fire them already!

[@ragnarokgzlr8522]

Ideology, that's why.

[@TacoTomtheBomb]

Making a movie is secondary to their activist agenda.

[@chmatacek]

@@TacoTomtheBomb Exactly. I unsubscribed like 2 years ago after watching a few episodes of Resident Evil series. Anyone familiar with the story would expect a zombie apocalypse, but no. Netflix turned it into a lesbian "family" love drama....

[@veselinapetrova465]

They (Netflix, Disney etc.) are trying to educate us. Educate us their way and their truth. Yeah, people will complain, but with time we will get used to it, and for the future kids this woke madness will be something normal. Black Cleopatra - why not? Whining Gerald - sure! Woman are bloody warriors, men are week sissies- yeah, baby! This is the future of the movies. This is the brainwashing wave that have already started.

[@names6969]

Cuz they identify themselves as good writers

[@WickedWoden]

Read an article today about Cavill's replacement with Hemsworth, and the writers definitely made a point to try and say the transition of the actors was going to be explained and "lore accurate." They're trying so hard to lure people back because they know it's dead in the water.

[@pauloa.7609]

Let them somehow shoehorn a new trial of grasses shenanigans for new mutations that will alter his appearance. Oh God...

[@damienmesnard9370]

Hollywood is so fond of parallel universe right now, I fear that writers find an answer here. Cavill could die at the end of season 3, and be replaced by another Geralt -Hemsworth) from another world found bi Ciri. " lore accurate " ! This would be the worst.

[@samblack5313]

It’s all connected 👀

[@moozillamoo2109]

Once apathy sets in, there is no coming back.

[@setoki2838]

If they want to write their own fantasy story, they should do that. Instead they take a existing fantasy universe and rip its heart and soul out.

[@greggeiger7532]

The writers and showrunners thought they were more important than their incredibly popular lead and in turn the audience and they are about to find out how wrong they were.

[@jollycooperation7446]

In an era where incredible CGI, graphics, cast, and literal stories are already written for you. A multi-billion dollar company still somehow manages to fuck it up.

[@oui2826]

That's just Netflix and their woke propaganda, it's been years already

[@cereszin]

​​@@oui2826You guys are crazy. Why do you think it's the "woke" agenda and not the incentive to make a profitable blank cultural market product the cause of bad writing? You do know that the Witcher books are about prejudice and social issues right? Of course not, you don't read. Stop blaming "woke" agenda and understand how a movie made for profit must be distorted from the source material.

[@admiralprince7925]

​@@cereszinBitch ass excuse. A fair amount of movies don't have to change from the source material to make profit. You're just sad that the "woke" agenda fails most of the time. NOBODY likes deconstructing characters and stories to make space for ideologies.

[@deltaphil]

@@cereszin read *

[@TakiTamAdam]

Because they wanted to put some political stuff, and that was mistake.

[@notBrocker]

I’m so glad there are people like nerdrotic out there who call out their bullshit.

[@---Rin---]

I'm such a huge fan of Henry Cavill. Dude seems like an awesome guy.

[@theevilteacher]

If they had footage of Henry arguing with the writers and made a reality out of it, it would be a must see

[@pauloa.7609]

I hope there are some and they eventually get leaked.

[@wekurtz72]

I noticed in the writers' apology clip they missed the sign for 'Shouldn't have based entire show on identity politics'.

[@harbl99]

I thought those signs were edited in after the fact as a dunk on the writers. Kind of like the 'bad dog shaming signs' that were a thing a while back.

[@sandman_says_runrunner4701]

@@harbl99 Yeah, there is no way in hell those writers and that show runner would even think they are wrong, let alone apologize for it.

[@zenster1097]

Shut up dude. It's the fact YOU don't embrace identity politics that's the problem and they do. They're anti-white, misandrist, homophilic, where putting the "other" and minorities is paramount. And then you come in and say "I don't play identity politics" as a response.

[@brettloo7588]

You fired an actor who was passionate about the role and is loved by the fandom. What did the powers that be expect?

[@Jadty]

He’s too masculine, white and based. Of course he would be kicked out. They only like him when they can drool all over him like a piece of meat.

[@Daniel-lq5qq]

He did leave

[@Arcahnslight]

​@@Daniel-lq5qq When you make the production environment and direction so antithetical to the source material that the lead has to leave because he can't stand to be a part of butchering it, you as good as fired him.

[@claraakane]

For peasants to listen to them because they obviously know better. It’s not about entertainment. At this point this is a lecture.

[@btgkg9639]

@@Daniel-lq5qqThey were putting out articles that were bashing him as rude, hard to work with and a few that were trying to say he harassed women on set especially the female writers. They were doing everything they could to make him quit before they lied about a giant lie of a scandal to fire him over.

[@caracunningham9210]

Henry is an amazing actor and the reason the Witcher was a supreme success. Netflix you deserve this black eye!

[@nottheonlydreamer9512]

It's insane how unlike the characters the cast look. Literally Geralt and Ciri are the only ones who look remotely accurate

[@cm9241]

It's insane that you dweebs give a shit about what a fictional wizard looks like or whatever

[@EmeraldEyes1776]

Ciri looks way too old though. She looks almost 20 and she's, what 14-16 in Time of Contempt? Time can be a bit hard to follow in the books sometimes. I dread what they will do with the scene where Mistle grooms/grapes Ciri in the end... you know they won't portray that as it should be.

[@MrDNMock]

Yennifer isn't too bad

[@wateverittakes9220]

For me it's Geralt and Jaskier

[@JesterForHire1663]

It's very "problematic" for shows to adapt characters to look as they appear in the original material. Even more problematic to notice. I can't help but feel there is a direct correlation between that and how problematic it is for their shitty adaptations to be liked even a little bit and/or to make money.

[@Jay-ky8fh]

Rotten Tomatoes scores: Season 1 - Critics 68% Audience 89% Season 2 - Critics 82% Audience 60% Season 3 - Critics 85% Audience 33% Nuff said. Thanks Gary!

[@kevinkingmaker7395]

Critics like woke. Audiences hate woke. There is an unmistakable dichotomy between the elite and the common man.

[@peterkom]

@@kevinkingmaker7395 nah, they are just paid to give positive reviews, mayby not directliy but you are not going to trash show who paid good money for ads on your webpage or magazine

[@AliasSchmalias]

@@peterkom Or maybe the head of RT is also a strong and independent woman!

[@kevinkingmaker7395]

@@peterkom That doesn't explain the inverse relationship between critics and audience reviews. For example, The Witcher cited above: As the show got woker through the seasons, the critic ratings rose while the audience ratings fell.

[@RenlangRen]

RT is just a shill site now, paid for by the studios.

[@VSO_Gun_Channel]

I’ve read every Witcher book. Yennifer is a major character but she barely makes appearances. The idea that she should be a focus is absurd. An argument could be made for Ciri in the later stages of the show.

[@raifsevrence]

Ciri is arguably the main character in The Tower of the Swallow. It's only...6 books into the series. Might as well get everybody acquainted with her character now right ? Granted, she has significant parts in Baptism of Fire also, but I digress. They are a long way from reaching that material and it's a moot point now regardless. Whether they try to trudge on for years to come or admit they done fucked up and cancel the show, it's already dead. Now we get to wait and see if amazon will find a way to ruin WH40k like they did Wheel of Time. People should have been lined up and shot for what they did to WoT . Hopefully Cavill can be the first to wrench success from the jaws of defeat before these corpos can accideliberately euthanize another IP.

[@lucario9054]

I was thinking the same thing! I love Yen in all her bitchy girl boss badassness but she hardly shows up. And for the longest time Ciri is pretty much a side character, until later on in the story ofc. Less Witcher in THE WITCHER is so stupid...

[@lucario9054]

@@raifsevrence I wouldn't mind them gradually bringing Ciri more into the forefront slowly so we as the audience are given time to care for her until that point in the story where she becomes the center focus. Instead we just get lss Grealt and what we get of him is a Witcher crying? They say they don't like the source material but I honestly doubt they even read it.

[@J.Lee-xv6wb]

feminism brother...Disney showed others how to make some fast cash with feminism...and sadly, many are catering to it.

[@bizzfgl3074]

@@J.Lee-xv6wb I'm still disgusted about "I'll make a man out of you" not being in the Mulan remake, It was one of my favourites and I couldn't watch half of the film.

[@RamiroCadenas]

My take is they do this on purpose, that's the only explanation I find logical. Like they sit down and think how they can manipulate, destroy and piss off source material, fans and people in general just because they can. You know like while back, centuries ago when landlords just do what they wanted because they had land and the common folk didn't, so It was just a game of power... well I think the same happens here. It's easy, respectful and honoring to do a great show based on this story and beautifully crafted world, with well written intricate characters; where you could just explore their arcs and let the story unravel itself. It's more complicated to just do this crap, and they put effort in it, that's the thing that motivates this people. They do it because they can, to piss off the common folk "consumers" that we are. So we can complain and talk about it; but at the same time, do nothing.

[@Allie-w1l]

Like maybe they are trying to disappoint and depress people, for whom entertainment used to be a salve to soothe the stress of living in a time when every cent is being squeezed out of them, as well as a source inspiration and enlightenment? I agree with you. On some level, it was deliberate, using a bunch of moronic show-runners who are convinced that they are somehow helping society, while they are actually helping to kick it in the gut.

[@kleindropper]

My favorite highlights of S3: - Fast forwarding through a fat, drunk Fringilla (how does a prisoner get so fat?) dancing in a bar - Fast forwarding through Yen giving cringe speeches to "motivate" people to unite - Fast forwarding Dandelion going to pound town with what is supposed to be the Witcher universe's Hitler, Radovid - Fast forwarding through the same scene 3 times in the last episode, where we are introduced to Margarita (who is supposed to be the most beautiful sorceress in the world) as played by Lizzo Jr.

[@joso7228]

Actually if you look back at Season 2 her fatness is held in by a corset. But anyway the intention is that they are forcing her to over-drink to null her spirit and powers.

[@stc3145]

Mages described as ageless and beautiful but according to Netlfix they are fat and black

[@kayrafeliz6922]

@@stc3145 Her skin color isn't what makes her unattractive. What a bigoted thing to say. She is very average looking though. Even if they're trying to fill their diversity quota, there's so many other beautiful WOC that would have fit the part much better.

[@stc3145]

@@kayrafeliz6922 Not bigotry. Her obesity is the major factor though.

[@TheBongoman47]

​@@kayrafeliz6922there's a specific kind of ugly black woman they hire for these diversity roles.

[@LeanBack_HaveASnack_TakeANap]

The CW is throwing their hands in the air, crying out "why didn't we get this show?!? We're so freaking good at having magical people standing around talking about magic! We did Charmed, this is Our thing."

[@nicholascerniglio7618]

💰

[@matthewcarroll2533]

lol, too true. God-awful CW shows... Man I don't miss those days.

[@nazhopkins5825]

It's like when you're doing a cave quest and you fight through a bunch of Drowners to get to a chest and, all that's inside is an onion. Only mildly increases your health but mostly just makes you cry and question your choices.

[@WotanFoss]

This made me laugh 😂

[@_Dain_Bramage]

Lol

[@TheNdoki]

Onions are like ogres...

[@BookshelfQBattler]

Straight rugged masculine male in a lead role loved by fans...Netflix was never going to let it last. Geralt needed to do some gay stuff I guess.

[@nicholashagy9493]

Perfect opportunity to get rid of all the terrible writers while theyre on strike, but they wont.

[@Dr3Mc3Ninja]

I am sure Henry can smile knowing the fans all agree with his decision.

[@supremeboy]

Henry must feel bad for fans as he is also BIG fan of Witcher game and books but couldnt persuade writers to stick to real story. Because i dont think we will ever see Witcher being redone in future once this flops.

[@sproutgreen1972]

Not all fans.

[@tonyl5344]

That's probably what keeps him going. He is a fan first and authenticity and quality always wins in the end. He will always have a following, and any project he steps into will always be moving the needle in terms of revenue (in the initial stages) -

[@ShawnGilbert1967]

​@@sproutgreen1972all that are sane

[@rubix4195]

A writer should know something is up when an actor (or the talent) who is depicting the character that has been written for them is saying they disagree with how the character is acting. The talent always b**ch about stuff - more lines, more screentime, etc - but when they say something along the lines that there's a mismatch between the source material or continuity with the character AND the depiction of the character right now, a writer needs to review. Unlike some modern creatives, you can't just patch up a storyline with different variations until you find a storyline that can please everyone and neither can you make an established character into its opposite without some writing that makes sense. As mentioned by a lot of people, a diversity of thought can appeal to everyone a diversity of labels only encourages separation.

[@karimam1275]

I have a crazy theory: I think that they're ruining everything on purpose!

[@sinisaaru5033]

It's not crazy at all.

[@bring-out]

@@sinisaaru5033 Yes, it is. If two theories explain the same evidence, one is simple and fits with normal human behavior, while the other requires an immense level of convolution, coincidences and strange behavior, it's not rational to pick the latter.

[@TheRogueJedii]

They are, deconstruction of our myths and heroes to serve their agenda

[@booshmcfadden7638]

Could be. The gov't will simply give them even more of our money, thus crashing the economy even further while the politicians continue to take a cut of the spending. I say let them die off. We don't need Hollywood.

[@carried9130]

I agree 100%

[@kylevogelgesang9996]

Even after all the reviews I've watched, my new girlfriend (No prior show/game knowledgd) and I binged this show this weekend. I have to say that the Ball Scene was a cool idea put into bad practice. You were also spot-on about the bad time jump editing. All in all, I will just stick too watching you guyz reviews from now on. Much more easy too digest. Better production value. And when you do your group vids I'm nearly pissing myself laughing. Keep taking those bullets for us. Much appreciation and love too all.

[@ChaosChanneler]

Love that he calls the writers strike out for what it is. A bunch of people that write terribly wanting more money to continue to write terribly. Hot take I know but it is what it is.

[@joso7228]

Bit harsh - only a few of those writers worked on Witcher and Indiana 5 and infinite Star Wars

[@franciscodanconia4324]

Why do you think they have banning AI from Hollywood writing as one of their key points? Because within a few years you could just feed it the raw text of a book series and it will probably come up with far better screenplays.

[@franciscodanconia4324]

@@joso7228yeah. Some of them wrote for She-Hulk, Obi-Wan and Ant-Man

[@RKDriver]

Or if they're good writers but aren't meeting their ESG/DEI quotas in scripts, they won't have a job.

[@shaenni9122]

I had real hope for this show. Writers and studios keep destroying good franchises. When I originally watched season 1 and 2 I hadn't read the books and thought it was pretty good. I recently have read a majority of the books and gone back to re watch the show from the beginning and they really did just ruin what could of been an amazing TV show. Sad really. Stupidity, laziness and ego and ignorance ruined another franchise.

[@SerfinBird]

Hate to say this if you ever read a book never watch the movie or show. Movie and TV writers love to screw up amazing source materials. I learned this after ready player one.

[@Dracomancili]

Personally i would say that it wasnt lazy... unfortunately. They put real time and effort into changing as much as they thought they could get away with. It would have been better if they had taken the more lazy route of just copying things as close as possible.

[@mjwchapman]

@@SerfinBird this is roughly 99% true, but... three body problem the chinese version by tencent is extremely faithful to the source. i'm sure the netflix version will be horrible

[@collision1988]

@@SerfinBird I loved ready player one.. and i got to read the book slightly.. the begining.. and it felt like i was reading the movie..... so idk what ur talking about.. but i could be wrong

[@onetwothreefour1234.]

​@@Ichbinnetderjenchealso because they now have to be lgbtq approved, feminist approved, vegan approved, climate change approved, you name em' 😅

[@ViolentMessiah666]

Hollywood just can't stop blowing what should be layup shots for easy points, just follow the source material & throw in a "monster of the week" & let the $$$ roll in, it isn't rocket surgery or brain science ffs 🙄

[@jackmesrel4933]

Specially since the first 2 books were all ABOUT monsters of the week, I will never understand why they changed the fundamental structure so much

[@ViolentMessiah666]

Exactly, they had everything they needed to be a hit: big budget, flagship show on a streaming giant, a great lead actor who loves the series & probably enough material (books + games) for a decade long run. All flushed because of ego, adgenda & lack of talent in the writing room

[@catiel8978]

The monsters had fascinating back stories. Loved it in the game. The crones are nightmare fuel tho

[@StephenM67]

None of this should be a surprise the writers and Hollywood have not had ANY TALENT FOR YEARS. Thank you for warning me not watch the show. Willow was abysmal and the worse. I stopped after midway episode 3.

[@ramjam-zv7mi]

"And their sidekick geralt" while showing an image of him cutting wood, made my day

[@matttipton6009]

That quote stung me because it pinpointed my worst fears about the show. Funny though!

[@jadeaube]

Geralt was terrible in this season he literally did nothing

[@m16dude967]

@@jadeaube because they made him do nothing but hmm

[@brettervonkanada6102]

I have huge respect for Henry Cavill. He's been treated like crap by both Netflix and WB, he could've just shut up and get paid more but he stands up for all of his roles. He may not be a great actor, and the producers probably don't respect his opinion, but he's clearly committed to his roles, wants to fulfil his duty to the audience and he takes it very seriously. Man of integrity and responsibility, god bless him.

[@1retiredknight]

Why does he invest so much in scripts that were obviously garbage to begin with? Is he hoping he can one day make a name for him self by single-handedly making a terrible script a watchable product?

[@danielfietkau733]

​@@1retiredknight You don't know a what point he said "yes" (afaik very early) or what Netflix told him the show would be like ("we stick to the source material"). Anyway if you can accuse him of anything, it's that he was overambitious and agreed to the role without guarantees. Like a typical fanboy would do.

[@S.H.N.80s]

Keanu is also not the best actor but he finds his movie were it works and everybody loves him. Henry is the same, i'll support him in every project in the future. I am such in high hopes for the Warhammer franchise. After they butchered GOT, LOTR, TWD and the Witcher into fanfiction i am glad there is hope with Henry Cavill.

[@brettervonkanada6102]

@engineergaming8920 I wouldn't go as far to say it was on purpose. I think that Netflix takes all of its big budget projects very seriously, they just put their faith in bad producer and gave her too much freedom after season 1 was more or less a success. And you can't blame them because she had a great resume also before. She worked with Netflix and Drew Goddard for Daredevil which was the best Netflix show for the longest time and also Umbrella Academy was not bad (though I don't think it was made by Goddard but she was one of the exec-producers). Also, she didn't do a bad job with the first season. After Witcher season 1, she was regarded as the best female TV producer, so Netflix jumped on that and gave her all the resources and backing. I just think that a little success got to her and she felt like unleashing her "creative independence" and took the work of her team for granted (including Henry). She probably still believes that she did well with the next two seasons.

[@ylfaer]

@@brettervonkanada6102 The problem is the writing. Studios are hiring quota-based freshmen (or freshpeople) without a hint of talent and LOTS of modern ideological positions. We will go another four or five years before a new batch of writers starts coming, and maybe even more.

[@d3thtr4p10]

GoT was an example to extract a multitude of lesson, among which are: 1. How easy it is to create a wildly successful show if you stick to the source material. 2. How quickly the quality drops once you deviate from it and start adding your own idiocies. But why be successful and revered, when you can be despised and spark heated discussions for some time.

[@SuperBigstuff123]

A little devils advocate here but GoT ran out of source materials in I think season 4-5 so after that they did have to kind of come up with their own stuff. BUT I will never get over how they didn't take the two extra seasons to really flesh out the conclusion.

[@asuri8751]

@@SuperBigstuff123 They ran out in season 7, for the most part it was true to the books til then

[@James-uk4xi]

@@SuperBigstuff123 Well if you run out of source material I think it's ok to do your own thing at that point..

[@SuperBigstuff123]

@@asuri8751 did a good search after making the comment. It is in fact season 5 when they ran out of source material for the overall plot.

[@lucario9054]

@@SuperBigstuff123 They started changing some major things from season 3 onwards tho. The Catelyn Stark plot twist just, did not happen at all, for instance.

[@DennisM-wp7jt]

I mean the balls of Lauren Hiswhatever to disrespect Henry, who is a megastar, while she is literally nobody, is quite something.

[@Natty11100]

Honestly the craziest thing for me was the they showed Vigefortz as a bad guy in the first season then acted as if we forgot, then made it this huge reveal when it was so obvious it was him the whole season

[@Faded______]

"Huge reveal" lmfao it was literally one 15 second scene

[@Natty11100]

@Faded______ the whole half season was dedicated to finding out the master and tried to red herring stregobor

[@Natty11100]

@Faded______ I think your the one who's confused, do you think plot twist are supposed to be long and drawn out, they are small bits of info that change the way you think of thing, the most famous is literally just bruce Willis realizing he dead which takes 10 sec

[@hugo7946]

​@@Faded______wtf ???

[@SlidingRhino]

When anyone on a show says "I didn't read, watch, or play games related to it, RUN!

[@HitManHerbert13]

I know I'm stating the obvious here, but most of these writers aren't writers. They're activists parading around as writers. And Henry Cavill ends up getting done dirty yet again.

[@georgidimitrov3174]

How many shows died after 1-2 seasons or even at the beginning, because of the woke agenda? Countless. So so sad about Henry and his effort for this show, they all thrown it in the bin.

[@moosedawg71]

My husband and I just suffered through season 3, part 1, and you are spot on about the ball episode and the disconnect of time or distance. Everyone was always exactly where they needed to be exactly when they needed to be regardless of travel time or distance. It makes sense with portals, but Geralt can't make portals. We said much of the SAME things while watching it...more like yelled the same thing, "OMG, WE ALREADY SAW THIS!!! The WRITING IS TERRIBLE!!! How is Geralt suddenly there?! Were he and fake Ciri just down the road? WTF?!!" We were screaming at the TV almost nonstop. And I was done after they made Dandelion/Jeskiel queer. I kept saying it, "I swear to gawd, if they turn Dandelion gay, I'm OUT!" Well, needless to say, I'm out. And it's not because of him being gay, I don't give a hoot about gay characters, and it's not like there weren't enough gay characters to pull from in the source material (Phillipa, DUH!), but I DO give a huge hoot when they REWRITE MAIN CHARACTERS to be gay/bi for "diversity and inclusion" sake. That's NOT "honoring the source material". That's writing your own queer fan fic under the IP of someone else! It's dishonest and screws over the fans. I'm definitely NOT watching season 4 (which I never was anyway without Henry) but I don't know if I can even suffer through part 2 of season 3.

[@Dr.Sortospino]

My wife and I thought that our tv crashed and it restarted from the beginning. 😆

[@JinHee20]

My feelings exactly.. I suffered through season 3 part one.. just because I love to see Henry as witcher. But it was more of a yeniffer show now. I like her but don’t really love that character.

[@kidaria1333]

Race and gender washing is blatant discrimination and in fact the opposite what they claim to be doing. It seems media companies want to do evil trolling.

[@JoseRRodriguez]

«Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.» as another comment on this video says

[@tijlderyck1381]

You will be watching S4, becaus we all hope it will be better, but stop complain,complain,complain,complain,complain,complain,complain its al people do

[@omarandrade782]

The scene where Geralt cried literally wracked my brain with confusion and disgust. Witchers are STOIC

[@musemellow]

being stoic doesn't fit the agenda, sorry!

[@lucario9054]

nahhh, there are no mutagens that make them stoic don't be silly! they are just battle worn but actually soft inside :) so stupid...

[@HReiss0]

It wasn't acting he was crying from despair to be playing that scene lol

[@John.McMillan]

​@@lucario9054Name one point where Geralt cries outside of this show.

[@sadorath3404]

Liberal woke writers want to make masculine characters weak. It is their entire career life goal.

[@TheLyricalCleric]

When writers and showrunners are more interested in scoring out-of-story vanity points like “hey, we’ve got a girl-witch!” or “hey, we’ve got boys in love!” rather than scoring in-universe story points like “this character had real internal growth!” or “these characters found the reason why they fight!”, the story stumbles. I’m not one who is going to bang the “go woke, go broke” drum, because enough people bang it already. But the idea of gutting the in-universe drama for out-of-universe style points is using entertainment media as SOCIAL media, of mistaking the message of the authors as the message of the story. If the authors want to hire all female leads and nothing but gay action, go for it! But make those leads meaningful, make that action have stakes. Otherwise, you’re just wasting time on a show that could have been a tweet.

[@jeremyzang6291]

​​​@@molochzhave you catched up to the later episodes? Pls watch the show first

[@SamlovesLulu]

Does it require lots of practice to remain that tone deaf?

[@wingedhussar1453]

The showrunner did not want to do it and said she doesn't do fantasy but dramas yet netflix pressed her to do it and we got vampiries diaries witcher series

[@bravobird9435]

I feel bad for Liam, hope he finds a way out before it's too late

[@EarthNeedsHeroes]

It's like taking control of McDonald's where everyone just wants burgers, fries, and an ice cold Coke, then changing things to only serve up boiled brussels sprouts. All these companies had to do was stick to the source material and respect the fans. But one by one they are running these franchises into the ground. It is on purpose, there is no way they don't realize what they are doing by now.

[@disenfranchisedver1tech598]

Cultural Revisionism.

[@paulw5039]

I don't think they realise what they are doing. The writers are all middle-aged cat ladies who spend their free time on Twitter. They quite literally think think that it's their job, their responsibility, to lecture and nag rather than entertain. It's fundamental to their personality and world view.

[@thescooterbrown]

Bunch of people who got bullied in highschool getting a smidgen of power and ruining the fun for everyone else

[@m16dude967]

@@thescooterbrown nah, its just liberal arts majors gone wild

[@user-xg6sx5ev9u]

Yup activist are weaponizing entertainment, sick people

[@Raruschmaru]

I don't get it. CD Projekt Red managed to produce awesome games with the books as a foundation. What made anyone think "you know, let's dump all that and make mainstream wannabe woke bs instead" was a good idea!? This is a tragedy.

[@Martinus777]

CD Projekt is a Polish company and the Polish society is (so far) not overrun by woke cretins.

[@joebenzz]

There are idiots everywhere and that's not new. The real problem are those in charge that are actually loosing money and be like "no, the writers aren't the problem, it's the customer who is the problem".

[@Carnage7209]

Democrats were tolerated to exist in the writers room. What do you expect?

[@Raruschmaru]

@@Carnage7209 imagine being so primitive that you have to shove your hate on a (compared to the scale of this actual problem) irrelevant political party onto everything. You're falling for this bs as intended, keep the little men at each other's throats so they are busy. Maybe google BlackRock. Btw, democrats and republicans are basically the same thing, just in different colors. If you think voting one or the other makes a difference, you're living in a dream world.

[@lucario9054]

@@Carnage7209 what?

[@boogerstastesalty]

The hubris needed to take a story that everyone loves and change it into THEIR vision...People like the stories because of what they are. Hollywood for whatever reason thinks elements of stories is why these things are popular as opposed to the stories themselves.

[@xelloskaczor5051]

I bet the only reason they arent marketing this as "this is what Sapkowski would write" is because he is still alive and well enough to tell them to fuck off.

[@VonSpud]

Happy the Witcher games are still out there...Sad Netflix allowed the story to be ruined...

[@T1S_Mixes]

My favorite part was when Lauren shat on Cavill and the source material and then had no idea why no one watched her shitty show.

[@charmingpeasant9834]

I'm suprised how many people are willing to overlook how blackwashed the show is.

[@jmlaw8888]

Its incredible isnt it? Take a book series that has heavy elements of fantasy racial conflict thrown in and make everyone rainbow nations. Hard to take conflict between humans and elves or the northern realms and nilfgaard seriously when its a post racial fantasy world.

[@lomborg4876]

Yeah. Completely breaks immersion

[@Charizardlison]

if this only would be the biggest issue of the show..

[@Paul_Goldman]

@@Motodiver184 imagine Warcraft but made in 2020. Orcs vs Humans? -RACIST!!!!!!11111

[@mfallen6894]

@@Motodiver184 Everyone is so used to being called a racist it's lost all meaning, lol. If you aren't being called a racist by a screeching leftist harpy on social media at least once a week you're doing it wrong

[@vertexedits1806]

Henry is a true gentleman and true nerd that respects the adiuence and the source so no wonder Hollywood is treating him like this

[@immatoll4375]

While this is true it is still a lot of bullshit to be honest. If the source from the books was that important: Why he then enjoyed the games so much? CD Project did also a lot of changes to the source material and no one cared about it. 99% of the players do neither know the original books nor did they even play Witcher 1 ever. In my opinion there are some simple reasons why the current season is not that sucessful: It is fucking summer in the northern hemisphere and most people are outside instead of watching netflix. Season 2 came out in december 2021, while covid. Are they seriously comparing a summer release with a december / covid release? Also the season comes in two parts: I'm not interested to only watch half of the series now. And to be honest: Currently the season gets only reviewbombed because of all the circus around it and everybody says "the writers suck"... blabla... while this is the same mediocre series as it was in season 1 and 2. I love canvill, he is a good witcher... and season 3 is more in favor with the books than the last two seasons... which is the funniest thing of all... but damn all this blownup shit from every content creator or mid 20 kid, because "he is one of us" (gamer, nerd etc.) is more than annoying. It's a typical 2023 first world problem....

[@1retiredknight]

Why does he pick such terrible projects to act in? So far, the closest thing to a watchable movie he's been in was Enola Holmes and he was barely in that. The DC stuff was painfully bad, MI movies stopped being watchable 3 or 4 movies before Cavill tried one, and I know I sat through The Man from UNCLE but a can't remember anything at all about it. Since' I remember random bits from even really bad movies, I think actively blocked that one out.

[@pipper4747]

To fully understand how colosally they butchered the Witcher you REALLY should read the books... its not just raceswaping and giving Yennefer too much space. They completely left out important storylines, changed whats left and filled it with their own bullsht, characters act like different persons, beautiful multilayered dialogues are simplified into generic cheesy shallow mess. Beautiful example of how messed up this is when Geralt sleeps with a whore, gives her all his money, so he has no money to pay for a room and they used this as his motivation to search for a striga and he doesnt even know how to lift the curse from her.... every single aspect is so out of character it actually hurts. Like holy sweet mother of god what are they smoking in Netflix?

[@Cx10110100]

Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.

[@codeangel]

Yeah those evil woke people, want to having some queer representation. So evil to make people see pocs or the gay D:

[@kurtbone2012]

Nice Tolkien

[@kidaria1333]

Well said. However it is nice to see not everyone agrees with it and Henry had the guts to leave. Most don't.

[@AliceDeePunk]

Every month when I don’t give Netflix any money, I feel really good about myself.

[@markgreiser464]

I dropped Netflix, when they announced they were no longer mailing-out CD''s and other Movie Media.

[@vikingninja5033]

Waiting for Cobra kai and maybe after that end it but i have more family😂

[@pasteljezebel]

They sure make it easy. Every month that goes by it gets harder to even consider resubbing

[@zac8670]

It's become increasingly difficult to want any subscription service at this point. To know that it goes towards 90% garbage propaganda and the slaying of established stories just doesn't sit well. Why would I want to pay for all the awful shows when I only watch a few, or older content. Also, again.. the blatant propaganda and downtalking to audiences. Thought mansplaining was bad? Try dumbsplaining. It's where novice idiots explain childish concepts while believing themselves superior.

[@easternstar7205]

I canceled Netflix after they thought me paying for 6 devices but only at one address was worth me paying 8.99 per device. How about a big fat no. Thanks netflix. Now I have time to go live my life and create my own story

[@senacht]

Dear WGA: What if you called a strike and nobody noticed let alone cared? With luck your walk out will be permanent and pave the way for some new and more adult writers to get work.

[@RuerlKhan]

Also, most of the writers on strike are not affiliated by Netflix, the writers doing the work on the various comedy shows are also on strike, and they have nothing to do with bad netflix adaptions.

[@hugo7946]

At first I thought it was just a classical nerd rant about an adaptation taking liberties to tell a new story. But what kind of artist would like to copy paste another material ? Then all the rant about witch-her and and the fact that they were too many women and a gay relationship is kinda ridiculous lol (the only 3 characters he found ok were Geralt, Stregebor and Djikstra). And then personnal critics on the producer. Why not. But it leaves very little room for actual critics of the show.

[@ZarathustraSpeaking]

As much as it's satisfying to see franchise failing after firing Cavil but its so sad that Henry couldn't get work just because he's a good human being and fan at heart

[@Shellova]

But now we might get Warhammer 40K.

[@ZarathustraSpeaking]

@@Shellova I heard that he's out of that too or it wouldn't happen

[@sebicmiel4221]

@@ZarathustraSpeaking where did you hear that?

[@DinkLover69]

@@sebicmiel4221 Probably some clickbait article. There's really no news about it being cancelled.

[@AliasSchmalias]

@@Shellova Warhammer to me doesn't come close to the witcher universe.

[@Kaalokalawaia]

The writers need to prove that they deserve more money. At this point, I'd be happy to see what the AI could come up with.

[@jamesrippy1161]

Amen. With all the garbage that’s on tv and in theaters right now, one things for sure… AI can’t possibly be any worse than the writers have been over the last 10 years

[@LordBLB]

Indeed. AI doesn't have the emotional baggage or political leanings that people have. It would be simply facts, and what is available as source material. Which is exactly what people who are fans, would want.

[@Bodwaizer]

They deserve one dinner at Bennigan's, and they will get nothing

[@justlivin2499]

As an aspiring author, I have to disagree, AI can’t make authentic creative stories, it can imitate creativity but it’s merely an imitation and hurts real creatives

[@patricksmangan]

Yes.

[@andypmz07]

Imagine having an A list hollywood actor on your B tier TV series and turning him into a side kick. Lol. Maybe in a few years someone else will pick this up and give us an honest screen adaption.

[@McCRBen]

There’s a reeducation going on without our consent and it’s right through the entertainment industry. The source material didn’t suit the agenda, but it came with lots of followers.