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The cost to Coyote Swap an 05-09 Mustang GT S197, WITHOUT using a Control Pack and HOW to wire it.

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Matt Soppa

Matt Soppa

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@cruzanity7478
@cruzanity7478 2 жыл бұрын
We appreciate the video. Not many people have shown enough info for the 05-09. I am looking forward to your content, bro!
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@suecra1228
@suecra1228 2 жыл бұрын
Just something to note, sometimes replacing a 05-09 fuel tank to a 11-14 fuel tank is the easier solution when running the return style fuel system and installing a bulk head. It allows for way more options for sending unit assemblies as well because 05-09 has limited (and expensive) options aftermarket.
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
If this car gets more wild and serious in drifting, I'd probably just get a surge tank.
@charlesmeaux3954
@charlesmeaux3954 2 жыл бұрын
Easiest solution is the Vette filter as it plugs into place of the stock mustang. Then all you do is run a return line and drop into the hat. It took me all of an hour and about $100 to do that.
@generaldisarray6023
@generaldisarray6023 2 жыл бұрын
I did the same but Lund told me it went lean at WOT
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
@@generaldisarray6023 they would know
@suecra1228
@suecra1228 2 жыл бұрын
@@generaldisarray6023 i think the filter/regulator setup is for stock motors and initial portion of the build, long term youll want a independent regulator so you can tune the car properly.
@wesmccullough3985
@wesmccullough3985 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Finally someone did a video that you can use if you're actually planning this swap!
@generaldisarray6023
@generaldisarray6023 2 жыл бұрын
I have done the swap on my 05, but when I used a harness by a speed shop that will not be named, it ran, but could not use my a/c and it grounded out a lot of my BCM and the radio would not work, etc. I just went ahead and swapped in a 2013 premium body harness, dash, seats, etc. Just a note, there will probably be a few other wiring issues if you have a 05-06 as the harnesses are different. GREAT INFORMATION!!
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
Great! Try and a big reason why I’m apprehensive on offering a sort of swap harness because of the differences. I think the most I’d offer is the PCM body plug labeled to assist. The AC portion is a little more tricky than just swapping wires. I’ll cover that when the time comes.
@generaldisarray6023
@generaldisarray6023 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattSoppa Yeah, the A/C is a huge issue on the 05 06 as the 07 09 are set up totally different. I ended up doing the A/C condenser and all the piping from the 2013 GT, as the 05 06 have 2 A/C sensors in the line and it also got rid of the big A/C dryer that is located next to the brake fluid reservior. Also used the EPAS and track pack ABS, not sure if necessary, but I wanted all the modules to be able to use the track pack settings in my 05.
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
@@generaldisarray6023 Yeah the 07+ uses same style sensor just need to wire it the same and use the Coyote sensor as it bolts onto the 07 line.
@willfitzpatrick8829
@willfitzpatrick8829 2 жыл бұрын
I’m looking to do a full body harness swap on my 05 in the coming weeks, any tips or advice you could give, still not 100% sure what I’m doing with it all
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
@@willfitzpatrick8829 do you have the whole donor car? That’d be the best route is to swap everything over
@generaldisarray6023
@generaldisarray6023 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt, I also wanted to give you a heads up on that corvette fuel filter/regulator. I used the same thing and when I was logging, it went lean at WOT. I ended up having to buy a regulator.
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
I may even keep its returnless as well.
@charlesmeaux3954
@charlesmeaux3954 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job! But if you shop you can get an EPASS and harness for less than the PBH speed drive and keep everything in its proper place. Also It is WELL WORTH the $995 for the PBH conversion harness over rewiring and repining the factory harness. I completed my 07 swap for right at $3000 not including the engine and its bolt ons.
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the video? Also in order to keep AC cruise and Speedo working along with reverse lights you still have to we wire some things. Not to mention still have the 3V PCM, messy!
@chasecary92
@chasecary92 2 жыл бұрын
Matt I hope you do a step by step video on the wiring harness I’m really wanting to do this swap as well but am very intimidated by the wiring! Nice video, and I’m subscribing now!
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your supports. I don’t think I bc an go over every single wire when I do(it’d be way to long!), I can give a detailed overview. Plus if I do go re a way to distribute the guide I’ve made myself, that could be available to assist as well
@chasecary92
@chasecary92 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattSoppa ya I would be interested in it. We’ll can’t wait to see some updates on this project!
@5.7Slim34
@5.7Slim34 2 жыл бұрын
Me too bro Bc I’m trying to do the same thing, no need for the control pack when you can just do it yourself
@THE3VGA
@THE3VGA 2 жыл бұрын
This is beautiful. I need that spreadsheet 😅
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve sold a copy already. Email me !
@carlosgonz96
@carlosgonz96 2 жыл бұрын
Hope to see your swap make some progress soon, don't go crazy and pull your hair out dealing with all the wiring haha
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like what I already have done, should prevent just that!
@carlosgonz96
@carlosgonz96 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattSoppa well if you ever need a second set of eyes to look something over let me know!
@hitmansniper1368
@hitmansniper1368 7 ай бұрын
My problem i need to install 5.0l coyote in 1966 mustang 😅
@ichigonubetube
@ichigonubetube 2 ай бұрын
I love in the forums where people are like, "coyote swaps cost like 20K" 😂
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 ай бұрын
Right? They don’t. And we have a video of breaking the cost down
@gmanwilliams1859
@gmanwilliams1859 Ай бұрын
Hey Matt your build is amazing 💪👍. I’d like to do something similar. I have an 2010 f150 with a 6r80 transmission. I just came across a 10 - 12” gt500 motor and tranny that I’d like to swap into my truck but I’d like to run it with my automatic transmission the 6r80. I’ve been told that the body harness would be the most difficult simulate due to different can buses. Is this possible and do you make a harness that would allow me to plug & play for this swap / application ? Or if I followed your blueprint could I depin my harness , bridge the gt harness with mines to run in my year vehicle ? Any information would greatly help me 🙌 please
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa Ай бұрын
@@gmanwilliams1859 thanks! At this point and time our guide would be the most beneficial to you. I have most of the schematics done for those trucks but until someone has me swap their truck or bring a me one already swapped, I’m in limbo on releasing a harness for them.
@ramrodou812
@ramrodou812 8 ай бұрын
i'm thinking seriously about swapping in a 5.0, (gen 1, 2, or 3, whichever i get a good deal on.....truck or mustang motor), with a manual transmission, into my '66 F100. would this spreadsheet translate over? what i mean is: would the 5.0 part of this spreadsheet simply serve as a guide on what wires to eliminate from the harness? i would imagine that the harness would be downsized quite a bit to do a swap into an older vehicle. this video was very informative.
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 8 ай бұрын
Yes it could serve as such
@generaldisarray6023
@generaldisarray6023 2 жыл бұрын
Also, if you decide to sell this spreadsheet after your successful build, I would be interested in purchasing a copy.
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for you support
@charlesmeaux3954
@charlesmeaux3954 2 жыл бұрын
For $150 I'll give you a step by step install using the PBH harness and will include pictures, where to connect the wiring and how to use the electric steering rack that is much cheaper than the PBH power drive and moving the alternator mess.
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesmeaux3954 you poaching??
@generaldisarray6023
@generaldisarray6023 2 жыл бұрын
No worries here, I already replaced all the old body harness and wiring for a 2013 premium gt harness
@lethalnate9461
@lethalnate9461 2 жыл бұрын
The 3650 with the mt82 harness? That what your doing?
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
As I said on the video it's actually a 13-14 GT500 trans harness, and those come with a TR6060
@edwardlthompson
@edwardlthompson 2 жыл бұрын
Have you been able to get some work Stunt Driving in Arizona? I've been trying to get connected with the guy that coordinates stunts in PR.
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
I have not yet
@edwardlthompson
@edwardlthompson 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattSoppa best of luck to you! I'm confident you could do the driving and probably work as a stunt double for quite a few actors.
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardlthompson appreciate that!
@we-be-gone209
@we-be-gone209 6 ай бұрын
Would this also work with the 2010 mustang gt
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 6 ай бұрын
Yes I have a guide for the 2010s now too but also have a plug and play swap harness for all 05-10 Mustangs. Check them out at Www.make-it-Modular.com
@edwardlthompson
@edwardlthompson 2 жыл бұрын
Would you be willing to share that Sheet? You can share the link as Read Only (Viewer).
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been contemplating. Lot of hours wrapped into it getting to that point
@edwardlthompson
@edwardlthompson 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattSoppa it looks fantastic! I can tell you put some effort into it.
@CoyoteCrimeLord
@CoyoteCrimeLord 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattSoppa come on man. Don't be Zuckerberg. If you release it to the world for free you will be an immortal God. lol
@generaldisarray6023
@generaldisarray6023 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattSoppa Don't listen to these guys wanting something for free, your time is worth what money you will ask, that is for sure!
@charlesmeaux3954
@charlesmeaux3954 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoyoteCrimeLord Why would those of us who spent our time, education and own money GIVE away our talent.
@Jorge199238
@Jorge199238 2 ай бұрын
Hello there, this is Jorge. I just have some questions regarding the harness conversion for a 5.liter coyote second gen! Out of an F150, I'm trying to put a manual transmission, but I don't wanna get the xterminator harness way too expensive. Would I be able to just modify the harness and make it work with the 4.6L transmission? Thank you for your time😅😅
@Jorge199238
@Jorge199238 2 ай бұрын
Forgot to mention this is a 2016 F-150 engine.
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 ай бұрын
@@Jorge199238 email me at matt.makeitmodular@gmail.com
@aaron-gb3cs
@aaron-gb3cs Ай бұрын
Would this work for a 2009 f150
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa Ай бұрын
@@aaron-gb3cs our swap harness that’s now available is only for mustangs. I have the ground work laid out for the 04-10 F150s but until someone brings me a truck to swap or is already swapped so I can get the lay of the land, no not yet
@mattbirch93
@mattbirch93 2 жыл бұрын
Would you be able to convert a 4.6 harness to do a coyote swap on a fox?
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
If it was a 4.6 3V, maybe, 2V or 4V? Not practical
@thaieralawadh2223
@thaieralawadh2223 2 жыл бұрын
Can you fit a 5-speeds transmission from a 2005 mustang gt behind the coyote engine?
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
Yup! That’s exactly what I’ll be doing
@thaieralawadh2223
@thaieralawadh2223 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattSoppa will it handle the power ?
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
@@thaieralawadh2223 near stock power levels and if you’re nice. Yeah
@thaieralawadh2223
@thaieralawadh2223 2 жыл бұрын
What about 2015 and up F150s are the engine the same as the coyote mustang engines?
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
Similar but not the same.
@thaieralawadh2223
@thaieralawadh2223 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattSoppa thanks bro... Just asking because I have swap project but don't know should I look only for 2011-2014 F150's or it is ok till 2017 I think ?
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
@@thaieralawadh2223 11-14 F150 are more alike to the Mustang version of the same year
@thaieralawadh2223
@thaieralawadh2223 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattSoppa so I should not look for f150 2015+ ?
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
@@thaieralawadh2223 not if you want to use the management methods I’ve laid out here in the video
@qvx817
@qvx817 2 ай бұрын
i have 2005 GT, i got s550 donor car gen2 with mt82. the easiest way is to swap everything including the interior, but i want to keep my 05 interior any tips on how to start this swap?
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 ай бұрын
If you want your cruise and ac and gages to work for sure I’d convert the gen 2 Coyote to gen one timing components and run a gen one ECU with our swap harness at www.make-it-modular.com
@qvx817
@qvx817 2 ай бұрын
@@MattSoppa do you offer a kit for gen 1 coyote and 6r80 swap for 2005 auto GT ?
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 ай бұрын
@@qvx817 yes our swap harness works with all gen 1s including 6r80, just need that trans harness for the auto is all
@alexbustos7051
@alexbustos7051 2 жыл бұрын
Want to go ahead and try it on a New Edge? 😬
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
If it’s a GT it’ll also bolt right up! Wiring will be a touch more difficult if not using a control pack however
@CoyoteCrimeLord
@CoyoteCrimeLord 2 жыл бұрын
Dude how the heck do I get a copy of the spreadsheet? I wanna start on my 2006 now.
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't want a stupid amount but I have to put some thought into how to fairly share it.
@CoyoteCrimeLord
@CoyoteCrimeLord 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattSoppa So with the EPAS. Using the older gauges, you cant set anything with the EPAS settings. So what "mode" will it run around in? Thought about it yet?
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoyoteCrimeLord it’ll be in normal mode like the 11-14 base cars that also couldn’t be adjusted
@isaiasbaquedano1915
@isaiasbaquedano1915 2 жыл бұрын
does anybody knows where can i get al those coyote swap parts?
@pierstonsalinas940
@pierstonsalinas940 Жыл бұрын
here from the s197 forms haha "Coyote Swap? 4.6 3v to Coyote 5.0"
@SuperFoxrider96
@SuperFoxrider96 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt, is there any way you could post a link to that spreadsheet you have for the wiring? I've been trying to get a swap diagram up for me and got pretty close, but what you have there puts my diagrams to shame!
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
Email me at matt.makeitmodular@gmail.com
@luisvaldez6204
@luisvaldez6204 Жыл бұрын
What would be the difference between the wiring harness sold by PBH?
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa Жыл бұрын
The difference is you’d still have to wire for AC, throttle pedal and MAF. Although more user friendly, it’s a lot of added looms and not AS factory looking
@carloscastrojr.3716
@carloscastrojr.3716 Жыл бұрын
Would a gen 2/3 be more difficult/expensive? Or would it be the same thanks
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa Жыл бұрын
If you use a gen2/3 you need to use gen 1 timing components with this method. Which means you can only use a gen 2/3 short block with either gen2/1 heads
@Carnage_5.0
@Carnage_5.0 Жыл бұрын
With that fuel filter did those adapter come with it or did you have to get those separately
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa Жыл бұрын
I got them separately. They’re 3/8” quick disconnects
@GrandPitoVic
@GrandPitoVic 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get your harnesses? I would like to run new harnesses even if I have to run a setup from Ford. I have a 03' crown vic police interceptor I am thinking on doing a coyote swap and getting rid of the 4.6l 2v. Great engines just not enough power for me. Thanx for the content.
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
I got all the harnesses directly from Ford
@raimondhyperburia3855
@raimondhyperburia3855 2 жыл бұрын
So its just plug and play? What about ecm? It works with stock 4.6 ecm?
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
No, as you can see in the video I used a gen 1 Coyote ECU. It’s bolts right in place of the 4.6 ECU
@Trevormandude
@Trevormandude 2 жыл бұрын
Doing the same thing to my mustang currently! 08 mustang gt. Gen 2 5.0 and 6 speed manual. Just pulled the motor and transmission out of the wrecked car. Got any part numbers you could assist with? Much appreciated. Great video!
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
Well since you’re doing a second gen. None of my part numbers or methods here will help much
@Trevormandude
@Trevormandude 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply! I understand and looking forward to more of the progress videos
@4.0Khi
@4.0Khi 4 ай бұрын
Will this work with the non gt ?
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 4 ай бұрын
Yes
@4.0Khi
@4.0Khi 4 ай бұрын
@@MattSoppaok thanks would know where I can get one form that’s not you my to run me 8k 😭 or what other engine would you recommend ? I own a 2005 v6 4.0 auto ? Or how would you upgrade the v6 most ppl just say “ cold air intake and exhaust and tune but what else can I do ? Build the engine turbo super charge it pro charger ? I really need help lol …
@CLELDKFKEJ
@CLELDKFKEJ 4 ай бұрын
If you’re trying to swap your v6 and cant manage 8k- sorry homie its gonna be near impossible for you. I’m about 14k into my swap for my v6. You need an entire drive trane swap. Know what you need 8.8 rear and whatnot. This video has a majority but not everything needed
@michaelmoore587
@michaelmoore587 2 жыл бұрын
Interested in body harness/plug pinout info. Willing to pay. Please let me know if available. Thanks!
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
Just saw your message pop up on Facebook
@dennisbryan7522
@dennisbryan7522 Жыл бұрын
Do you have to change engine mounts? Also will the 5 speed transmission bolt right up to the engine
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa Жыл бұрын
No. And yes.
@dennisbryan7522
@dennisbryan7522 Жыл бұрын
@@MattSoppa ok thanks seems easy now I just have to find a coyote used one almost cost as much as new ones got any advice on finding a good deal?
@edwardlthompson
@edwardlthompson 2 жыл бұрын
Love the video. Please pick up a lavalier mic. 😉
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
You and @Maximum Driftcast both suggested this!
@edwardlthompson
@edwardlthompson 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattSoppa It would really cut down on the echo in the empty room and also make your voice come across much better. It is super easy to lasso both the audio track and the video track in Premier and click synchronize. It will automatically match up the waveforms. Side note, I really REALLY want an '05-'09 and have watched a few swap videos and this is the best!
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
For sure. Doesn’t help my new garage is super empty heh
@dustindow2959
@dustindow2959 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt is this info still good if I bought a cheaper 5.0 from a truck? I heard the differences were compression ratio and maybe the oil pan but not much else.
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
Yes a gen 1 truck will work in this application. Oil pan I think is the same. Just get the mustang gasket for the wi date tray and oil pump gears are different too along with compression ratio
@dustindow2959
@dustindow2959 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think sourcing the harness from the tail lights to the headlights and swapping the dash would involve less thinking, I mean besides the seat air bags that my 05 doesn't have? I subscribed btw. Good content
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
@@dustindow2959 if you’re thinking that way. Best to get a whole donor car and swap EVERYTHING
@thomasford4762
@thomasford4762 2 жыл бұрын
What if I’m doing this swap on a 2006 V6 S197 using a wrecked 2014 5.0 what would you suggest?
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
To use this method you’d technically have all the parts you’d need! Or just swap everything from the donor to your V6. I mean. EVERYTHING
@thomasford4762
@thomasford4762 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattSoppa thank for the help brother… Is it ok if I contact you if I have any further questions? Because you seem to really know what it takes to do this swap
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasford4762 Matt.makeitmodular@gmail.com
@qgaming172
@qgaming172 11 ай бұрын
I’m about to do the same the biggest concern I have right now is wiring harness and pcm . Did you get a 3v pcm or coyote one and did you use the original harness for the body
@mrcountit
@mrcountit 7 ай бұрын
So the money shot is a connector diagram? 😂
@jacobkerner2309
@jacobkerner2309 2 жыл бұрын
How do I contact you for the spreadsheet?
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
Email me! Matt.makeitmodular@gmail.com
@donovanjohnson526
@donovanjohnson526 Жыл бұрын
Where you get the battery harness from
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa Жыл бұрын
Local Ford Dealer
@donovanjohnson526
@donovanjohnson526 Жыл бұрын
Do I have to use the gt500 battery harness or can I use the 14 mustang gt battery harness to
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa Жыл бұрын
@@donovanjohnson526 if you have a MT82 trans I’d go with a GT. If you have a TR3650 or TR6060 I’d use a GT500
@donovanjohnson526
@donovanjohnson526 Жыл бұрын
Thanks bro can you send me the link for the harness so I can order it
@donovanjohnson526
@donovanjohnson526 Жыл бұрын
I would like to show you what I’m doing with my setup rn you have anything I can reach out to you with like Facebook or something
@MaciusSzwed
@MaciusSzwed 9 ай бұрын
When spending thousands of dollars you might as well buy a motor at the local scrapyard and buy a fuly forged rotating assembly and all new bearings as in building a race engine, you wont regret it down the line.
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 9 ай бұрын
I haven’t regretted any coyote swap I’ve ever done.
@MaciusSzwed
@MaciusSzwed 9 ай бұрын
I mean in general, and especially when you live in USA where engines are cheap at the local scrapyard and you can buy anything for these engine from summitracing.@@MattSoppa
@mrcountit
@mrcountit 7 ай бұрын
What if I bought a 2010?…and met you at a light….haha
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 7 ай бұрын
This video is now a bit dated but I do have solutions for the 2010 in process including our plug and play swap harness.
@TheSeangerber
@TheSeangerber Жыл бұрын
PBH's worst nightmare🤣
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa Жыл бұрын
😆 Nah! They’ve helped and have sent people my way
@TheSeangerber
@TheSeangerber Жыл бұрын
I have the 06 GT Ok emailing you for the spreadsheet ?
@TheSeangerber
@TheSeangerber Жыл бұрын
@@MattSoppa I have the 06gt appreciate your channel. Looking for a gen 1
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa Жыл бұрын
@@TheSeangerber yes absolutely! Matt.Makeitmodular@gmail.com I also added it on my website www.make-it-Modular.com
@2wheelcobra
@2wheelcobra 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, but next time show the dog too.
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
It’s really funny mention that because the next video has a bunch of footage of them
@mrcountit
@mrcountit 7 ай бұрын
Ramzan?
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 7 ай бұрын
??
@nukezszn7202
@nukezszn7202 2 жыл бұрын
If I got a 11-14 Body harness and engine harness could it still work with a gen 2 coyote
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 2 жыл бұрын
If you use gen 1 timing components you can
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