Level Echoes Efficiently! Substat Odds Revealed in Wuthering Waves

The first part of this video includes an important tip on how to upgrade echoes so you save on materials, and the second part lists ALL the possible substats you can roll along with their estimated probabilities. I hope the information helps and don't feel bad if you don't have perfect echoes yet or even any pieces with crit, I barely have any myself and I've been farming every day. Let me know in the comments if you have any questions!
I stream Wuthering Waves ➻ / sweetily
0:00 Intro
0:23 Echo EXP tip
1:34 Echo Recommendations
2:52 Echo Next Steps
3:57 Cost 1 Echoes
4:17 Cost 3 Echoes
5:00 Cost 4 Echoes
5:34 Echo Substats Intro
5:56 Echo Substats Ranges
6:11 Echo Substat Probabilities
6:36 Outro
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[@SweetilyVT]

For those wondering how much potential double CRIT pieces you are losing out on by only upgrading to +5, +10, etc, I simulated upgrading 1,000,000 echoes assuming there was equal chance of getting each TYPE of substat, and here's what I found: - around 12.8% of the pieces had BOTH CR and CD - if you trash echos after +5 that don't roll crit, you lose ~60% of potential double crit pieces (5.2% chance for double crit) - if you trash echoes after +10 that don't roll crit, you lose ~30% of potential double crit pieces (9% chance for double crit) - if you trash echoes after +15 that don't roll crit, you lose ~10% of potential double crit pieces (11.5% chance for double crit) - if you always level to +20 you won't ever miss out on potential double crit pieces, but it requires a lot more resources In general though, because there are other useful substats in this game besides crit, such as ER, ATK%, flat ATK, bonus dmg%, etc, as long as you don't roll HP or DEF on the first few rolls I think you can level up your echoes to +15 or +20.

[@camaela18]

Thanks for the notes Ariel! Good work as always!

[@M-hl2qs]

echo drop rate nerfed right after 1st 5 day ?

[@melone8008]

Bro is a statistics deviant But fr, thank you so much for the data! Very cool and useful! ❤

[@robbybobbijoe]

yes of course, but i roll def and hp all the time and its so annoying that i'm about to give up

[@nateboogiez9999]

Omg ty ur a godsend for these tips ❤

[@emperman]

Dear Diary, it's been 7 days since the last crit dmg substat. I'm all out of tuners and exp. I don't know if i can survive any longer...

[@athredis]

6 june will be our salvation

[@justbeingnormaliguess4509]

Have tons of tuner but don't have the exp :(

[@bimantoro17]

Brother, i salute you (even tho i already waste some echoes exp 😭)

[@johnd7760]

they alr gave u waveplates. use em and stop crying

[@light18pl]

Destroy your old echoes to get some tuners back.

[@mostpolitebot1464]

I didn't realize the exp required between 20-25 is that much compared to 1-20. Thanks for this info!

[@zrevi5918]

Also 1-15 is the same exp needed to lvl 15-20. When i was lvling echoes 20 violet exp to 1-15 and also 20 for 15-20

[@raidenxt8737]

@@zrevi5918 yes its the same exponential system as star rail. relics 1-12 cost about the same as 12-15. same thing with character XP, 1-70 costs as much as 70-80

[@weatherinme6882]

2:32 thx for keeping this part in 🤣

[@user-nn7ot6cz9b]

weirdo

[@idlaientityD2nd]

@@user-nn7ot6cz9b Why did you write it like ñokuna

[@leo-um3pj]

sillyness teehee

[@lemoniscate]

Pretty sure I said the same thing the other day while farming for big turtle with my friends

[@younggriff4703]

why?

[@f2pkeqing]

Thank you Sweetily for the useful info. I am so glad I've been playing WuWa casually and let y'all figure out the efficient farming tricks for people like me lol.

[@Kryesh]

thankss for all of your hard work and detailed data keeping..! The leveling tips and how to extend the use of our limited echo mats are super useful, and thanks for keeping in all of your thoughts and notes on healthy expectations and mindsets (and for your sacrifices omg the dreamless ahaha ) as well as all of the little tips and recommendations everywhere throughout the video! it was really interesting learning a lot of this and it was really helpful..!

[@user-qp3sz5gr7m]

one thing to consider for F2P is do not copy yet the CCs rerolling for substats, Upgrade and use the echoes with right Mainstats even if bad substats. With the limited resources do no be picky YET, or you'll lose some percentage of your upgrade mats by rerolling substats at this point. reroll if you already upgraded enough echoes.

[@ozbezarius922]

Min maxers be like * We made mistake , reroll fast * 😅

[@Ser--]

This is not that good of advice. The main stat difference is so low at the higher levels. You should be leveling echos for subs. They are the actual difference maker for echos. Not the like 3% main stat upgrade.

[@fahmi714]

good advice,

[@Nezxmi]

@@Ser-- He's saying to just get the right mainstat for now and worry about subs later, it's very good advice because you do not need optimal characters right now. Save resources and use a budget build until you reach a wall where you actually need more power, then start looking for replacement pieces 1 by 1.

[@SomaStory]

​@@Ser-- You're absolutely right. Casual players should start minmaxing echoes right now and not waste their stamina on ascension materials

[@kerontv6297]

Holy lvl up materials from 20 to 25 is insane Thanks for this account saving tips

[@ExpelParadise]

This is the video I desperately needed since I was having trouble understanding the echo system. Thank you for the guide Sweetily!

[@grampaseri]

Thanks for the video! This is very consistent with what I've observed in game, and the tip about energy regen pieces in particular is very valuable. Be sure to lock these on pretty much any set because if it's not useful immediately, they will be at some point and they are not easy to get. Also, excellent advice at the end of the video. At the end of the day, echoes are mostly a means to an end, so if it's frustrating players now, it's ok to wait a bit, build some union exp with dailies, and get back into it when the resource flow and drop chances are more favorable

[@rourkebrieno8331]

I dont think ive ever watched a spreadsheet video with such a calm and soothing voice behind it thanks for all the stats and also for the calming info dump i really like this form of explanations got a sub from me lol

[@JinJinxandTuna]

Incredible findings! Thank you so much for the work you do for the community ❤

[@mangodonut98]

really enjoying all the guides you've been putting out. great work!

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I did not expect that voice when I clicked the video, not gonna lie, but it had me smiling for a solid chunk of it. I like the pace and the actual quality of the content.

[@MAZZAR0TH]

simp

[@andreasbenalibendtsen3720]

Thanks alot for the advice!! It has helped alot with choosing which echos to lvl, as i just farmed the hell out of echos the last couple of days and have alot lying around:))

[@slycepeetza4613]

As a Danjin stan, that outro is the icing on the cake 👌

[@Kevin-rv8br]

Not me thinking you meant the outroskill xD

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Same danjin my fav

[@TeaBagOfChaos]

Where is this frame from?

[@slycepeetza4613]

@@TeaBagOfChaos From Wuthering Waves Danjin trailer

[@Aythos]

Small information which can be really usefull if you're going step by step in the upgrade. You can not only recycle echos by feeding them but also from the inventory which gives the exp as capsule.

[@ademlayes9116]

that's a ton of work you made, i really enjoyed it and learned a lot (and screenshot the table lol). thanks for your amazing work!

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I love this video, right on so many points and a sweet voice to go along with it. Nice job! I subbed and look forward to more videos :)

[@Trinitonian]

Exactly the kind of video I was hoping for, thank you Sweetily :3

[@igerd4424]

This video is underrated and extremely useful. Keep up the great work! I reference it to Maincord often

[@jaywalker32]

Thank you for the guide -Danjin- Sweetily! Super helpful to have a systematic method.

[@roy61_]

Thanks for the guide really appreciate you for including the probabilities of the rolls

[@kaslam_]

The amount of information you provided and how well you explained is just incredible! Very detailed, loved the video, thank you so much!!

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Finally got to hear your real voice at healing damage bonus.

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Her real voice is akin to her regular voice lol albeit even cuter

[@Yoru-desu13]

Great info I was actually doing this somewhat myself. I only leveled to +10 to see what it rolled (looking for double crit), but I guess I should level to at least 20 to get some stats / placeholders. I have options cause I farmed so much. Will try the 1 cost rolling tech. Thanks a bunch!

[@SidYato]

I'm obsessed with how calm your voice is lmao Thanks for the useful infos!

[@juanlife6255]

Yep, I'm going to leave the the pain of farming "perfect" substats for later, very informative thank you.

[@ashuraisdedge]

I’ll start mine/maxing my builds once I hit union level 40, it’s gonna make everything easier. Just focusing on main stat at the moment has been working for me. Thanks for the video, I didn’t know getting echos from 20 to 25 was so expensive.

[@user-is2cl3mf4j]

finally some very useful and realistic data/ information... thank you sweetily!

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Completely unrelated, i really like your voice.

[@realkenxo]

My shrimp brain cant comprehend all this but surely this will help me in the future

[@ZDiG]

Amazing video, thank you so much for sharing these findings!

[@harper0270]

thank you for the echo probability as well as the roll ranges this is really helpful information! Also your voice is so nice ;--;

[@hldo00]

OMG THANK YOU!!! I really needed an overview of the stat values! Thank you ❤❤❤

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Ngl, when nearing the end of the video and I heard you saying "just have fun" I immediately subscribed to you.

[@SiBai-]

i love how calming and directly to the point your videos are. a soothing voice with great information to go with it!

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God tier info, love the research and effort put into this, much obliged

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The effort alone to gather this data deserves a sub. Thank you for sharing.

[@daruqz2247]

Really good video! Some real quality content!

[@Victorosm]

Best video of Echo informations! Thank you!

[@Assernew]

Didn't expect an informative video + asmr that would calm my soul ....great video !

[@lv.uplife]

You made the prime point that I keep telling people; We're still early in the game, don't overly stress about finding the absolute perfect echoes or running out of exp for them. As World Level goes up, you'll get more exp and echoes can be farmed endlessly. Also content is pretty easy right now (gets harder later). Good video!

[@IMMOVABILlTY]

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[@gesa7781]

I love you, I love the way that you explained everything, I love the way you make us calm despite the horrible stats we get. Also I love your voice

[@NonstopNoah]

Very useful information; thank you!

[@twitzmixx8374]

Thanks for this video! Everything I wanted to know about echo stats are in here.

[@Digi4DD]

Great work on stat distribution, very informative!

[@zeon9041]

This is really useful info, thank you!

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Great video, really understandable explanations ,and a sweet voice,you gained a follower,keep up the good work 💯

[@zeusreigns4640]

This was a very much needed video🥲thank you sweetily❤

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your voice is so calming. i could just listen to your voice for a long period of time until i fall asleep. good tip btw

[@bzchnt3143]

this chart was super useful, thanks so much!

[@vietanh2101]

god work for providing substat probabilities! Thanks for the video

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For today miss you shall be my guide trough this game.Good explanation and good content already subscribed^^.

[@jhasperibarbia7926]

Damn. Thank you so much! This helps a lot. Have a nice day

[@rizme7]

I was losing so much motivation on tuning for crit dmg and after watching this video, I instantly get back farming again. Not mostly because of her guide .. but becuz of her angelic voice that blessed my hopeless ass. I greatly thank you for that Lily

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Thank you for the guide Suffered for super long at echo grinding

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[@PhantomBunnyTTV]

Damn now I gotta grind for that hidden Healing dmg bonus piece😂✨

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Thanks for the overview and the tips.

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Thanks you again!! You are so helpful.

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Im so so so glad i was able to pick up on this early and being able to gear all my characters efficiently was such a good feeling

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[@shinmir-vm3dm]

awesome vid im glad i havent really pushed echos yet

[@RathVantas]

Awesome video. Did you notice any difference in odds of rolling specific substats? For example is a crit rate substat just as likely as a flat DEF substat when tuning at +5, or is it skewed? It definitely has felt like 1 costs especially are more prone to hitting Def/HP in the first 1-2 tunes, but could just be confirmation bias

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[@HighBoss]

Very useful, thanks

[@YuutaKyon]

Thanks for the guide, sweety! I'm doing some mistakes on leveling my Tempest for chalcaro to +25 and crap, the substat are nearly horrible with DEF HP while other is CR/CDMG and R.Liberations. Im out of echo juices now too. aaaaaaaaa

[@aliabdullah3523]

thank you so much for this!

[@struggler3696]

Man, I really need healing dmg bonus. haha ty for guide, this was great!

[@adamlonewolf1563]

Thanks for your video Ariel, it's very informative and well detailed ^^ Also i wanted to asked you : for your Jiyan, do you use two 3 cost echo with Aero dmg bonus or one with aero dmg bonus and another one with energy regen

[@SweetilyVT]

I'm currently running one mainstat energy regen, though in the future might swap over to double aero if I can roll some more pieces with ER (I think he ideally wants 130-140 ER)

[@adamlonewolf1563]

@@SweetilyVT Ohh okay, i see ! i think that i'll do the same since mine don't have ER Thanks for you answer !

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Thanks for the hardwork! It must've been quite tiresome. Thank you very much, highly appreciated what you have done!

[@nolifeSnorlax]

Thank you! 😊

[@XendiasSoria]

Thanks for video, I'll start farming my Healing Damage Bonus!